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Speaker 6: Get hey, good morning fellow, come hell and like hurday.

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Speaker 5: Ready, but really, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: My guy?

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Speaker 4: You get hit the button, just let it play out

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Speaker 4: and keep going. There's some undertones there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: What what do you mean.

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Speaker 5: Really leaning into it?

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Speaker 6: We don't know what that means. Oh gosh, that's gotta

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Speaker 6: be rasy. Keep going, No, because I don't know what

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Speaker 6: you're talking about. That partly coming up. I'm not connected

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Speaker 6: to an inside joke going on. Good morning, Joe, good morning,

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Speaker 6: everyone has all right?

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Speaker 4: All right, So how's everybody doing this Thursday morning? Everybody

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Speaker 4: fired up, ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Great? Jonas, how are you doing?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. It's just another day.

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Speaker 6: Cry Jonas, What do you mean? Whatever track?

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Speaker 5: What's that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's the button? What was the button?

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Speaker 5: The racist?

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Speaker 4: But it felt like you were leaning into the standard

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Speaker 4: sort of I guess, stereotypical grunge, white guy voice.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, I thought I was just leaning into

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Speaker 6: the way he sounds when he sings. But god, I mean,

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Speaker 6: all right. I did watch the Grammys yesterday. I gotta

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Speaker 6: tell you that's pretty interesting. It's on demand, and not

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Speaker 6: by my choosing, by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, was not in that high demand, but go ahead, it.

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Speaker 6: Was on video demand, So on demand, and and someone

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Speaker 6: in this household chose it and chose watch it. I

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Speaker 6: for me. I just got to be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: She was supposed to you. Did you see it? Did

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Speaker 6: you see yes? Oh my gosh, was that the funny?

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Speaker 6: It just chuck. It's like sheer showed up. She told

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Speaker 6: everybody like, look, i had some hard times, some up,

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Speaker 6: some downs into business. I've been in this fing business

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Speaker 6: for over sixty years. And then like dropped the mic

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Speaker 6: and rolled out. They were like, Share, Uh you do

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Speaker 6: you come back? Can you can you come back? Get

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Speaker 6: a ward away? So then she comes back and gives

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Speaker 6: the ward away. Kendrick Lamar Luther Vandrat because the song

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Speaker 6: was Luther, it was Lutherer and they sampled. They sampled

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Speaker 6: the music from from a song from lutheror Vandra. She

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Speaker 6: was like, wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. She's like, I

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Speaker 6: the teleprompter. They didn't do it. She's like, and the

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Speaker 6: winner is Luther Vandros. If you didn't get the memo,

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Speaker 6: Luther has been gone for a little while now, not

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Speaker 6: in the building. She wasn't joking, right, she was not joking.

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Speaker 5: Jonah, she's gonna be eighty in May.

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Speaker 6: She was not joking. I mean, she's like, I got

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Speaker 6: these great, great jeans and this, that and the other,

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Speaker 6: and they were showing a picture of her when she

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Speaker 6: was younger. I was like, all right, great jeans. Some

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Speaker 7: Maybe I thought she's a vampire like Jonas and just

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Speaker 5: No, that's rude.

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Speaker 6: She's definitely aged. I mean, listen, she was shaped well,

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Speaker 6: She definitely looked good. But I just think it's getting

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Speaker 4: I feel like you, uh, you go down that road

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Speaker 6: Once ever ne never enough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's too bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But anyway, that was the highlight of my evening yesterday.

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Speaker 6: What she called Luther, she called Kendrick Lamar Luther fan draws.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go that's I had to get that off.

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Speaker 6: I had to say it. If you saw it and

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Speaker 4: But well, i'd be listen. You know, there's no football,

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Speaker 4: so you know where everybody's kind of scrambling to learn

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Speaker 4: around trying to trying to identify. Can you partake in

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Speaker 4: the winter Olympics are going on?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Let's there's a to do some of them quick, paarrouette.

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Speaker 4: Here's a downhill skiing event. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: assuming it is, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's not.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'll go with it. Let's see if let's

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Speaker 6: A live line seeing it live anyway live recorded, you

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Speaker 4: So, So that being said, would anybody like to break

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Speaker 4: down or give it? Let's go de coverage, let's ki

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Speaker 4: the game so you have.

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Speaker 2: Some update music. We have music that would.

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Speaker 7: Go with it up till I'm going to get you

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Speaker 7: some Olympic music.

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Speaker 5: Give me about twenty seven seconds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's say twenty seven seconds. It's very specific number. Okay.

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Speaker 5: By the time we get its share will be ninety.

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Speaker 6: So that should be saying it with Luther Vandross.

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Speaker 5: Like Metallica and calling them Sandman.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, it's interesting watching the Winter Olympics

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Speaker 1: One of the things about the Winter Olympics though, is

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Speaker 1: I find myself was going, oh, that's a sport. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Summer Olympics, there's some like goofy stuff.

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Speaker 2: The Winter ones. I'm like, who thought of this?

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Speaker 1: Like with someone drinking and they're like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: instead of having one person do that, let's put two

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Speaker 2: It's just it's odd.

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Speaker 1: But let's get an update for the medal count in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Right there in Italy, Norway.

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Speaker 1: With a commanding lead in regards to gold medals. They

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Speaker 2: Norway leading the way tied with Italy.

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Speaker 1: The host country obviously at thirteen total medals.

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Speaker 2: There, so Norway and Italy tied.

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Speaker 1: For the most. We're you can make the case for third.

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Speaker 1: We're right there twelve and there's a bit of a

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Speaker 4: France, that's and that's the country where that guy who

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Speaker 4: was piping around on his girlfriend on the side was

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Speaker 4: we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 5: The bronze, that's correct. One of those goes to the

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Speaker 5: pipe layer himself.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of pip, we also have a downhill skier who

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Speaker 1: unfortunately got throttled by the gate. They call it going downhill.

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Speaker 2: He was flying, I mean probably.

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Speaker 1: Going six smiles an hour and as he came over

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Speaker 1: square in the groin.

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Speaker 2: Woman, Now that's that's possible.

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Speaker 1: You could hear him yelling out in pain. The thing

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Speaker 5: I got a question, Yeah, was that from this year? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Because I was looking into that and people's doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't ruin it.

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Speaker 1: The entire thing if it wasn't so like you, of

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Speaker 1: all people, never let the truth get in the way,

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Speaker 1: have a good story.

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Speaker 4: Well look, I'm just hey, listen, the guy's got no

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he's been dealing with them for a

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Speaker 6: So, you know, from what I hear, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: stuff like that. You know, I hear that's a big,

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Speaker 6: a big hit in the Winter Olympics, very very streamline.

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Speaker 1: Well, the male doubles is one of the most baffling ones,

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Speaker 6: That was pretty interesting. Just lay on each other on

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Speaker 4: For some reason, they wouldn't let me do it facing

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Speaker 4: each other. Yeah, I think that would be way more entertaining.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but going down that hill like sitting

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Speaker 2: It is interesting. How do you find out you're good

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Speaker 6: Hey, mom, Mom, get up, we gotta go I gotta

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Speaker 6: go practice.

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Speaker 4: And god forbid you get stuck. You know, like there's

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Speaker 4: there's a real dangerous sport out there in the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's all sorts of stuff that can happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's your twenty twenty six winter updates. There's Uh

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Speaker 2: by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, I'm trying to send you an update as far

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Speaker 1: as the mixed pair figure skating competition. The friends, I

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Speaker 1: believe one that there's somewhat controversy involved in that, but uh, well,

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Speaker 1: at what exactly took place.

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Speaker 5: There's less sports.

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Speaker 4: In the Winter Olympics than I thought there would be

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Speaker 4: because in the in the Summer Olympics, obviously you know,

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Speaker 4: weather and events there.

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Speaker 5: There seems like there's more.

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Speaker 4: But there's I'm showing alpine skiing, biathlon, bob slid, cross

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Speaker 4: country skiing, curling, figure skating, freestyle skiing.

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Speaker 6: I said, have you ever watched curling? Yeah, it's great,

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's so it's.

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Speaker 5: It's shuffleboard for eskimos.

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Speaker 6: It's shuffleboarding on ice. Yeah, I mean, it's like their

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Speaker 2: What you haven't seen that?

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Speaker 6: But it's fun to watch the Paralympics. The Paralympics they

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Speaker 6: You think they wear their jackets, like when it's not

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Speaker 4: You know, there they are loosening your tie.

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Speaker 4: I'll say, Miles Garrett's there supporting his girlfriend. I know

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Speaker 6: Her daddy upset too. Damn did you see that video

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I was sent to you. Dad was like,

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Speaker 5: No man Ray twenty six?

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Speaker 6: All right, wait till ya see this. Wait yeah, see,

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Speaker 6: that that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Do you think he just wanted his daughter to have

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 7: You know, like, why does your man have to come

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Speaker 7: thought she won an Olympic thing?

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Speaker 2: That's football game.

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Speaker 6: I just said to watch Dan's face. Man. Dad was like,

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Speaker 5: I mean hold on.

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Speaker 11: Put his hand in his head like, oh man, I

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Speaker 4: Hold on one second, not disregard the previous pick that

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Speaker 4: Quinn of somebody who appears an Italian soccer player in

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Speaker 4: a sports bra. No, that's that. That's that's the team

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Speaker 4: that won. Uh, it's the team that won the mixed

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Speaker 5: Sure they're mixed.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, well there's there's a problem getting another person

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Speaker 6: That is hilarious. They got to be a soccer player.

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Speaker 6: This is you tripped out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, come on, look at the frame.

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Speaker 5: But again that is Uh.

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Speaker 4: There's your Olympic update, your winner Olympic update from Branden T.

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Speaker 2: Quinn. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, there wasn't It wasn't a ton you know we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: This is this is fun, getting the color outside the lines,

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Speaker 1: You know what sport I do, which the one where

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Speaker 6: You know what that answers the question anyway? Probably would

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Speaker 6: I would be speech skating personally. You know I'd be too.

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Speaker 6: I'd had that tight outfit on, had the little help,

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem is Jake Paul already beat you to it.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, well I get that. I mean, and his

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Speaker 6: did very well. Good for you. I would have cried

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Speaker 5: Name is seems seems a little forced if you ask.

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Speaker 2: Me, Man, come on, man, he's made.

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Speaker 6: He was happy. Stop, Yeah, he was super happy. What hey,

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Speaker 2: Hope he calls you out. He puts you in a

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Speaker 5: Fine way to support your friend because he's from Ohio.

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Speaker 5: Big whoop.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying dangs calling him out.

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Speaker 5: No, I just it seemed like it was a little forced,

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Speaker 1: Don't by the way, it felt like he couldn't even

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Speaker 6: Just everybody was in his face.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you notice that? Like I feel like

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Speaker 6: Well, it'll never fully heal bro the way they as

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Speaker 6: They can't do a robot jaw. They had to wire

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and he turned out fine.

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Speaker 6: You stupid.

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Speaker 5: With you there's sure there's your winner.

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Speaker 1: Trying to put your guys up on game keep I

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Speaker 6: Hey man, I didn't need the reminder, That's all I'm

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Speaker 6: I would be happy, excited, pumped up over the above

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Speaker 6: Hey look here, man, all right, I'd be one speed

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Speaker 4: The Way Tire buying should be You guys, remember Alex S. Guerrero,

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Speaker 4: Remember him. He was Tom Brady's a TB twelve guru,

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Speaker 4: and you know he had a bit of.

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Speaker 5: A falling out there.

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Speaker 4: Belichick wasn't exactly a huge fan of his work. I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, there might have been some other people that

454
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Speaker 4: weren't big fans of Alex Guerrero. But apparently, and I

455
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Speaker 4: was unaware of this, he followed Tom Brady to Las

456
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Speaker 4: Vegas and he's listed as the Raiders wellness coordinator, I

457
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Speaker 4: guess is the title.

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Speaker 5: And some have.

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Speaker 4: Blamed him being partly responsible for Max Crosby wanning a

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Speaker 4: fresh start somewhere else, and that according to our guy

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Speaker 4: Albert Breer, who we're going to catch up with coming

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Speaker 4: up an hour three of the pro This from Albert

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Speaker 4: Breer quote, Alex Guerrero was part of communicating the Raiders'

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Speaker 4: decision and why they made the decision to shut down

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Speaker 4: Max Crosby in December, which angered Max. I believe that

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Speaker 4: day when they had some scans done and the Raiders

467
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Speaker 4: basically told him after the scans, we're going to shut

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Speaker 4: you down for the season. Max had strong suspicion the

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Speaker 4: reason they were doing. It was to tank for the

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Speaker 4: number one overall pick, which worked, but the communication of

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Speaker 4: it got fouled up and a lot of people in

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Speaker 4: that building report to Alex Guerrero now and Alex as

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Speaker 4: scene is the eyes and ears of Tom Brady internally,

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Speaker 4: So there is some fence mending that would have to

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Speaker 4: be done there if they want to bring back Max Crosby.

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Speaker 4: So Alex Guerrero apparently has got some stroke within the organization,

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Speaker 4: maybe similar but not as much obviously with Belichick there

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Speaker 4: that he had in New England. And that's sort of

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Speaker 4: where things have gone sideways with Max Crosby. This doesn't

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Speaker 4: seem like it's the ideal setup for the Raiders. It

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Speaker 4: seems in what regard, well, why would he have that

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Speaker 4: much influence with the Raiders organization like Alex Carrero.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if their structure is set up as such

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Speaker 1: where he's overseeing the medical side of it, that would

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Speaker 1: be how structure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom Brady came in.

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Speaker 1: As a limited partner who's got a lot of power,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be shocked again if one day in

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Speaker 1: the future, if Mark Davis was no longer with us

490
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Speaker 1: or no longer wanted to have the majority stake. That's

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Speaker 1: who he'd tried to sell the majority stake too. So

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Speaker 1: this is this The interesting thing about this team is

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Speaker 1: this team's being run as if Tom Brady already kind

494
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Speaker 1: of is the majority owner, or even though Mark Davis

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Speaker 1: has the final say, a lot of what's going on

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Speaker 1: and reportedly a lot of what's going on is by

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Speaker 1: the direction of Tom Brady. And the tough thing is

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Speaker 1: and that, you know, we'll keep saying this is probably

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Speaker 1: one of the frustrations that Max Crosby may have is,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady's not there every day, and Alex

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Speaker 1: Carrero might be there every day or often enough to

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Speaker 1: report back to Tom Brady and be his eyes and ears,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't always work out for the best.

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Speaker 6: Whatever the structure is is the structure, and you can

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Speaker 6: like it, you cannot like it. I would assume that

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Speaker 6: Max Crosby's frustrations towards this is probably just more of

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Speaker 6: an outer layer of broial top of the lasagna or

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Speaker 6: whatever it may be. It's not the core root of

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Speaker 6: the issue. It's just one of the symptoms. And so

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Speaker 6: to me, this is a combination of trying to be

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Speaker 6: the best that you can be he's been crazy, crazy productive.

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Speaker 6: He has held up his end of the bargain as

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Speaker 6: a and has nothing to show for it, you know,

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Speaker 6: outside of personal accolades. So I could easily see and

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Speaker 6: clearly see why if things aren't exactly the way that

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Speaker 6: you would want them to be in a sensible manner

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Speaker 6: from their perspective personally, from Max's perspective personally, of course

518
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Speaker 6: you're going to have beef about it. Of course you're

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Speaker 6: gonna want to have a fresh start. If I'm being

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Speaker 6: the best that I can be and I'm doing everything

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Speaker 6: that I know I'm supposed to do in order for

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Speaker 6: this franchise to have success, you know, he probably feels

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Speaker 6: that he needs to have at least at the least

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Speaker 6: to say and what his participation is as to how

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Speaker 6: it pertains to him getting on the field. So you

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Speaker 6: got to play things a certain type of way. Like

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Speaker 6: with it being said, yes, it's a structure, but if

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Speaker 6: Guerrero is up in there like flex and and doing

529
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Speaker 6: things that's unnecessary, you know, being over zealous about how

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Speaker 6: he handles things, then you know what, maybe that is

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Speaker 6: going to be a turnoff and and maybe that's something

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Speaker 6: that he has to adapt into adjust to and and

533
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Speaker 6: today's NFL.

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Speaker 4: It just feels like there's a lot of like, remember

535
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Speaker 4: the reports that were coming out after you know, the

536
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Speaker 4: Chip Kelly fiasco that was last year, and then there

537
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Speaker 4: was the you know Chip, you know, doesn't you know

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Speaker 4: they're getting the plays in laid all that other stuff

539
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Speaker 4: that came out, and then reportedly there were issues with

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Speaker 4: the offensive line and communication there with Chip, with Pete

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Speaker 4: Carroll sons and all that, and now you get this

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Speaker 4: report out that you know, Alex Guerrero, Tom's not really there,

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Speaker 4: Alex seen as the eyes and ears. It just feels like,

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Speaker 4: if you're Max Crosby, You've been pretty consistent through the

545
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Speaker 4: entire time with the Raiders and nothing else around you

546
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Speaker 4: has been coaches quarterbacks, whether it's Antonio Peers or Josh

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Speaker 4: McDaniel or Pete Carroll for a year, and then Tom

548
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Speaker 4: Brady comes in. But then Tom Brady's not there, and

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Speaker 4: it's Alex Guerrero who's sort of giving the messaging from

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Speaker 4: the organization in the front office. And on top of

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Speaker 4: that they want to rescue so they can. It just

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Speaker 4: feel like if I'm like, I get it. And one

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Speaker 4: of the reports that was out there during Super Bowl Week.

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Speaker 4: According to Diana Rossini, is that Max Crosby wants to

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Speaker 4: play for Rabel like he wants to play for the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I can understand the Raiders now, we're not going to

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Speaker 4: trade him, and Clint Kubiak can say all he wants.

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Speaker 4: I just wonder if Max Crosby's looked around and said, listen,

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Speaker 4: I've given you chance after chance. I've trusted the process.

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Speaker 4: I've trusted whatever you've told me. There's been multiple coaches

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Speaker 4: hired and fired. The John Gruden stuff was a mess.

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Speaker 4: He was around for the Antonio Brown stuff. He's seen

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Speaker 4: a lot of crap with the Raiders.

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Speaker 6: So now would you be upset with him feeling like

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Speaker 6: he's short on patience, no on ad about how things

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Speaker 6: are being had, especially with him.

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Speaker 4: They're in a rebuild mode. Does he really want to

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Speaker 4: waste the prime of his career rebuilding?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's I mean, he's arguably possibly coming out of

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Speaker 6: his prime, right, I mean he's.

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Speaker 5: Old, is he twenty eight?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean he's just probably had some he still has

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Speaker 6: some good years ahead of him. But I would argue

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Speaker 6: that at this point you're starting to get older, and

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Speaker 6: you're not going to be Yeah, he is twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to be exactly the player that you

579
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Speaker 6: once were with the high energy and the high octane movement.

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Speaker 6: Like it's going to have to be adjustments at twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: I mean, hell, I was done by twenty seven, and

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Speaker 6: I know how I felt by year seven. I mean

583
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Speaker 6: I walked away from the game because of how banged

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Speaker 6: up my body felt. And he doesn't play a non

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Speaker 6: contact position. He is in the mix every single play

586
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Speaker 6: at that adge position. So it's it's it. I can

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Speaker 6: understand personally what what Max Crosby is is dealing with

588
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Speaker 6: and what he's going through. You have some very very

589
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Speaker 6: productive years and those years go unrewarded by it by

590
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Speaker 6: the performance of the team. It is very frustrating. And

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Speaker 6: then when you add if the organization is doing things

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Speaker 6: that are super frustrating off the field, come on, man,

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Speaker 6: that's that's that's really that's a lot to ask of

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Speaker 6: somebody who's giving their all and is considered to be

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Speaker 6: the face of the franchise to to give them what

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Speaker 6: they need to try to be as successful as they

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Speaker 6: they need to be and they're not. That's a lot

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Speaker 6: to ask of someone, So I'm not I'm not upset

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Speaker 6: at them for this report. I mean I would be

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Speaker 6: bothered if somebody was messing with me too, And I'm

601
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Speaker 6: out here trying to, like like gig in this s

602
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Speaker 6: show of an operation, like come at me the right way,

603
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Speaker 6: you know, give me a certain level of respect, because

604
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Speaker 6: obviously it's just not what it needs to be there

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Speaker 6: in that organization.

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Speaker 1: Two thoughts on this real quick, the first being that

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Speaker 1: do you remember when Miles Garrett was really upset and

608
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Speaker 1: frustrated with the Browns organization?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is money? What happened there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He got paid, Yeah, they got paid. I mean they

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Speaker 1: gave a new contract. It made him feel better about it.

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Speaker 1: And I think Max Crosby, I'm not saying it's all

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Speaker 1: about money for him, Like that's not why I'm saying this,

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the structure of his contract,

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Speaker 1: he's going into this year really with the last year

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Speaker 1: of having any significant dead cap and guarantee is a

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Speaker 1: part of his deal. So really in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: not only does this contract kind of pale comparison to

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Speaker 1: other top edge rushers, which you know, it's tough because

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Speaker 1: the production for him hasn't been you know that of

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Speaker 1: you know, being close to Miles Garrett. I think if

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Speaker 1: anyone puts on the tape though, and they watch him,

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Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, he's one of the best players. It's

625
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Speaker 1: just he's also on a really bad team. And you know,

626
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Speaker 1: you could say the same thing. You well, Miles Garrett's

627
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Speaker 1: team doesn't warn a lot of games too. He still

628
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Speaker 1: has a lot of production, that's true. But I also

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Speaker 1: feel like their defense around Miles Garrett is much better

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Speaker 1: than what Max Crosby kind of dealing with. So I

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Speaker 1: would be curious if they gave him a new contract

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Speaker 1: and extended him out, you know, put some more guarantees

633
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Speaker 1: in it, if that wouldn't help him feel better about

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Speaker 1: the situation similar to how it did with with Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: or if this is just truly about his frustration with

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Speaker 1: them not letting him play at the end of the

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Speaker 1: season because they wanted to get the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: and you know that wasn't communicated well to him, and

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Speaker 1: he finds himself in this position of saying like I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, thirty one years old,

641
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Speaker 1: thirty two years old, looking back and saying what could

642
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Speaker 1: have been in those last two or three years if

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Speaker 1: I would have went to a team that was going

644
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Speaker 1: to be more competitive, because this team's a more rebuild. Note,

645
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Speaker 1: this team isn't trying to win right now, They're trying

646
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Speaker 1: to win in the future. And I'm putting my body

647
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Speaker 1: in the line every single week. So I wonder if

648
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Speaker 1: a new contract or restructured contract I should put him

649
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Speaker 1: would change his feelings on all this. And maybe that's

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Speaker 1: part of that. Like, if you you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: if you want to get to a better deal, like

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Speaker 1: this is what you have to do nowadays, and especially.

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Speaker 6: When you're the opposite too, it could be the opposite, right,

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Speaker 6: patriot way, don't get rid of him too late, get

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Speaker 6: rid of him right on time. They might have shut

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Speaker 6: him down so he didn't get injured so that they

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Speaker 6: could have a potential operation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again maybe if they want to rebuild. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know how you get rid of the

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Speaker 1: guy who's the heartbeat, who's everything to your like he's

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Speaker 1: the guy you're building around who does everything right. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know how you get rid of that guy.

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Speaker 5: He just.

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Speaker 6: But he just by the.

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Speaker 1: Way to that point, you know, the Patriots getting rid

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Speaker 1: of Chandler Jones to me was never like a wise

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Speaker 1: decision outside of some of the things like you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe on that had happened, but like as far as

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Speaker 1: the production, they were never able to replicate that, Like

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Speaker 1: they always kept trying to find someone who could be

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Speaker 1: what they gave away in Chandler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Like if you could go back, I bet.

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Speaker 1: There's sometimes where Bill Belichick goes, yeah, we got that

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Speaker 1: one wrong. Like it's not like just because Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: and the and the Patriots won Super Bowls meant like

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Speaker 1: every decision they made was right. They wouldn't sometimes despite

677
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Speaker 1: of making the wrong decision, that to me was always

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Speaker 1: one of them.

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Speaker 4: And Crosby just got a deal last year, so this

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Speaker 4: would mean the deal they gave him last year just

681
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Speaker 4: restructured or ad them more Garante.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's why I said restructured on a new deal.

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Speaker 1: But like again, it's it has to all do with

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Speaker 1: the fact that there's not much guarantees left on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about if they were to get

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Speaker 1: rid of certain quarterbacks, the cap it they would have

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Speaker 1: to take. You could do a post June one designation.

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Speaker 1: If they wanted to release him this year, and it'd

689
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Speaker 1: be very minimal. It could cut the thirty five million

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: dead cap in half. Jeez, and then you go in

691
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. There's nothing left on this deal. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't a great deal

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Speaker 1: in the first place. It felt like maybe it was

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Speaker 1: a deal just to get them to a certain point

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Speaker 1: where they could reevaluate.

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Speaker 4: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with

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Speaker 4: you coming up next here though, it's another edition of

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Speaker 6: Come on.

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Speaker 1: I just want to also state that if we end

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Speaker 1: up having that game we talked about, Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: our pup up song.

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Speaker 2: You guys don't get this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, this is our techno pal

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 6: Let me let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: You need to tell me anything.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's say something not.

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Speaker 2: A space, all right, that's the Euros, buddy.

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Speaker 6: Believe you me, this would not be the song that

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Speaker 6: we would use.

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Speaker 1: Just I'm not worried about that. I'm just saying I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear any tech though. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: our side.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not from I'm gonna hear.

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Speaker 2: No, that's all our side.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to hear any of this music in

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Speaker 6: our locker room. I mean, that's just what. Yeah, that's

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00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: just one of those deals, like you played this in

725
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: the locker room, like you turned this on the on

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Speaker 6: the loud speaker and think that you're not going to

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Speaker 6: get kicked out the club. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 6: what to tell you, man, I don't know what to

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Speaker 6: tell you.

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Speaker 2: It's all right, we're gonna come out there.

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Speaker 1: Up, yeah, pumping everything we see all right and white

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Speaker 1: and white.

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Speaker 4: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here

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Speaker 6: Hold on, don't get carried away, bro.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, by the way, a reminder if you've

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Speaker 4: missed any of today's show, which has been filled with

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Speaker 4: a race all the way through ray, you'll want to

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Speaker 4: And with that we turn it over to the man himself.

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Speaker 5: He's out.

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Speaker 4: Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. You

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Speaker 4: can get him on x at Albert Breer, and he's

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Speaker 4: kind enough to spend a few minutes with us here

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Speaker 4: again on a Thursday morning, AB, good morning to you.

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Speaker 10: What's up guys.

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Speaker 9: It's not five in the morning this time, at least

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Speaker 9: for me, so that's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get your run in yet? I did?

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Speaker 10: I did?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was I actually got a comment at the

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Speaker 9: at the coffee shop this morning that I was not

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Speaker 9: wearing reflective clothing and I was a danger to myself

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Speaker 9: out there, which was interesting. What the guy who owns

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Speaker 9: the place had actually gets driven by me when I

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Speaker 9: was running, So I guess it's gonna be a little

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Speaker 9: more careful out there.

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Speaker 10: But we got like that.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a blue state to be Albert.

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Speaker 1: Huh, sounds like a blue state to me.

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Speaker 6: So it's been that type of show. Boa, I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you what. It's been, that type of show. Ab geez,

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Speaker 6: holy smokes, hold.

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Speaker 2: On, Aby.

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Speaker 13: Did you see what was going around yesterday on the

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Speaker 13: internet where Nick Wright suggested that maybe the NBA All

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Speaker 13: Star Game should see a game between the black players

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Speaker 13: and the white players that they really.

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Speaker 10: I actually did see that. Yeah, that was an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where this whole thing got started.

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Speaker 9: So didn't didn't Will Compton have like a white guy

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Speaker 9: and like the all white guy team or something like that?

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Speaker 9: Wasn't that what it was?

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Speaker 2: He he did?

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Speaker 1: The idea was sprung out there, and the idea was like,

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Speaker 1: and the white team wouldn't be as bad as you'd think. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: where they really would struggle outside of edge.

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Speaker 2: Rushers is that corner.

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Speaker 9: Corner would be an issue.

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Speaker 1: Corner would be well, at least we got some you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not like you're playing safeties at corner.

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Speaker 2: You got Roley Moss out there. You got old boys

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Speaker 2: Cooper Dejean.

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Speaker 6: So there's not much that whole roster, name a whole

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Speaker 6: starting roster, just starters, white players on one side, t J.

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Speaker 2: Watt on the other.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Alec Pearson at receiver.

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Speaker 10: No, I think we'd.

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Speaker 6: Be Okay, y'all stop that three names.

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Speaker 5: I think you keep going. And also.

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Speaker 6: Y'all can fill out. Y'all lying in your quarterback?

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Speaker 2: What are you guys doing at quarterback?

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Speaker 6: We got quarterback. We got m VP's that play. We

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Speaker 6: got Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on now that's ours.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what, I take it back, No, that's now.

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Speaker 2: That's Levar's.

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Speaker 1: Based on recent occurrences during the Super Bowl week, that's LaVar's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Albert, you missing a few months ago. We made

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Speaker 4: a trade on the air. We gave LeVar Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 4: You gave us Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 10: We did, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We made the trade.

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Speaker 9: Don't sleep on red blinking ship.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. There's another one.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Albert, you you have been exactly moving on.

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Speaker 1: No, just at some point we have to title something serious.

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Speaker 1: But Albert, you have been.

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Speaker 2: Embroiled right in the middle of this whole.

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby potentially looking at going elsewhere and the Patriots, well, because.

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Speaker 10: You segue right into Max christ Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right right into Max Crosby blind to get

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Speaker 6: out of the black hole.

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Speaker 2: You know what, what's going to be a Patriot.

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Speaker 9: Ninety seconds and it's can work completely off.

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Speaker 5: The right whatever.

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Speaker 2: This is where we come on to season. Outside of

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Speaker 2: Nick Bright's idea.

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Speaker 1: I noticed a lot of buzz around the Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: being unhappy in Las Vegas, and you're bringing up a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that situation. If you could detail that

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Speaker 1: more for us, but also a good landing spot in

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Speaker 1: New England, which would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I would say, you know, this goes

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Speaker 9: back to, of course, the injury in December, and you

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Speaker 9: know the I'd say, the disagreement on the condition of

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Speaker 9: knee and on December twenty third, now he had initially

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Speaker 9: gotten hurt. I think that it was October seventeenth, the

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Speaker 9: Chiefs game right around there.

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00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 10: Was when he initially heard it, and.

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Speaker 9: Like he's been playing with it for two months and

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00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 9: so you know, it kind of progressively gotten worse as

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Speaker 9: those things too, and so he had scans on December

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Speaker 9: twenty third, and the scans were enough for the Raiders to.

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Speaker 10: Say, all right, we're going to shut you down. I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, part of the communication.

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Speaker 9: On that between the Raiders and Crosby wasn't great, you know,

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Speaker 9: and Tom Brady and Alistair and those guys were involved

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Speaker 9: in that, and you know, I think Crosby felt like,

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Speaker 9: all right, well this is happening because you're tanking for

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Speaker 9: the number one overall pick. I don't want to be

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Speaker 9: a part of that. And he just wanted to play.

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Speaker 9: And look, I think the one thing we have to

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Speaker 9: remember about about a guy like Max who's very prideful

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00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 9: and has accomplished a lot as a pro, is that,

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Speaker 9: you know, without having the ability to accomplish a ton

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Speaker 9: in the playoffs because he hasn't been on great teams.

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00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 9: You know, he takes a lot of pride in things

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Speaker 9: like being able to finish seasons out and Pro Bowls

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00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 9: and All Pros and that different stuff, and so you know,

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00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 9: like his inability to finish the season the way he

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 9: wanted is something that I think was a problem for him.

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Speaker 10: And so.

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Speaker 9: You know, obviously that ended.

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Speaker 10: That week the way that it did. That was December

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Speaker 10: twenty sixth.

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Speaker 9: I think he went in there and and wound up

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Speaker 9: storming out, and you know, like.

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Speaker 10: I know, since then, there has been some communication.

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Speaker 9: He went and you know, as Clint said during his

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00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 9: press conference the other day, he got a cup of

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Speaker 9: coffee with Clint.

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Speaker 10: The other morning, and from everything.

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Speaker 9: I understand that all went well. But you know, I

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 9: don't think anything has changed, and so it feels to

877
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 9: me like this is still trending towards there being a trade.

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00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 10: I don't think anything is over yet.

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 9: Or anything at Stone or anything like that.

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00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 10: But it does feel like, because of everything.

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00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 9: That happened back in December, there's still some hard feelings

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00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 9: with some people in that building that are pretty high up,

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00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 9: and and because of that, I think, you know, Max

884
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 9: is doing something that that he hadn't done previously in

885
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 9: his eight years, which has really explored the idea of

886
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 9: being traded, because up to this point he's been really

887
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 9: loyal to the organization he wanted to be a one

888
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 9: team guy. He's been really loyal to the day of

889
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 9: his family. But you know, obviously, you know, some of

890
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 9: the stuff that happened at the end of the season

891
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 9: touched the nerve and you know, and and and it

892
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 9: at least looks like when we get to the Combine

893
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 9: in a couple of weeks, we're gonna be talking about

894
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 9: the possibility he's on another team next year.

895
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 6: Ab can can you expand on the trade part? Because

896
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 6: I brought it up? Is this a result of the

897
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: hard feelings posts shutting him down or could there could

898
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 6: his his vitriol towards it be connected to the idea

899
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: that maybe they were thinking about moving on from him

900
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: before then and maybe didn't want to see him, you know,

901
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 6: get injured, and that would be why, you know, he

902
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: also took hard feelings to it.

903
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 9: I don't know about that. I mean, I I I

904
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 9: I can't climb in the match's head and determine whether

905
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 9: he was thinking about that stuff.

906
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 6: You know.

907
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 9: I know the Raiders had just signed him to an extension,

908
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 9: and the Raiders wanted him to be there, you know,

909
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 9: So I don't think that there was any sort of

910
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 9: intention on that wasn't.

911
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 6: Signed, that wasn't signed, that was signed before Tom Brady, right,

912
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 6: or was that signed during his time?

913
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 10: No, no, no, it was it was he did he did.

914
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 6: A new deal.

915
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 9: I want to say it was the combine last year

916
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 9: was right around then.

917
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 10: So it's it's still rel you know, a deal.

918
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 9: It's like less than a year old now, you know.

919
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 9: So so they have they have doubled down on him,

920
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 9: doubled down on him, and obviously like now you know,

921
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 9: they've got a different coaching staff and everything else, and

922
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 9: there's a lot of different things that go along with that.

923
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 9: But you know, I again, I think I think Max, like,

924
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 9: at least my perception of it is that Max has

925
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 9: always wanted to be part of the solution and part

926
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 9: of some part part of turning the Raiders around.

927
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 10: You know, And so you know, I think the handling

928
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 10: of this, she just rubbed them the wrong way.

929
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 9: That's that's that's at least you know the way that

930
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 9: I that I've read the whole thing, and and what

931
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 9: that means going forward, we'll.

932
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 10: See, you know. But you know, like I don't think

933
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 10: that there was any sort of like we're going to.

934
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 9: Trade him or you know, I think I'm going to

935
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 9: be traded that that that that went into it before

936
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 9: September twenty third. I think it really was a result

937
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 9: of this situation, and obviously, like look like I don't

938
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 9: want to make it sound like this is just one

939
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 9: thing in a vacuum. I'm sure there were a bunch

940
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 9: of other things that were frustrating to Max because he

941
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 9: hasn't been winning, you know, over the last couple of

942
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 9: years that maybe played into this sort of of touching

943
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 9: the nerve that it did.

944
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

945
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 4: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB, I wanted

946
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: to ask you just one last thing on the whole situation,

947
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: the Alex Guerrero having some say being the eyes and

948
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: ears as you pointed out for Tom Brady inside the

949
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: building there, How is that landed with people inside the building.

950
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 9: I think it's a unique dynamic, you know, because you

951
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 9: have a minority owner who is pretty involved in what

952
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 9: they're doing, but he's not there, you know, every day,

953
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 9: and so I mean just imagine if there was somebody

954
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 9: that you had a long term partnership with and you.

955
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 10: Were going to run an organization, but you weren't there

956
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 10: every day, but.

957
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 9: That person was like, how would people look at that?

958
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 9: I think that's the natural way to kind of conceptualize

959
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 9: what's happening here, you know.

960
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 10: And so like I do think that there's that you knowing.

961
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 9: Now, whether or not that's I've known Alex a long time,

962
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 9: Like whether or not that's fair to Alex, you know,

963
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 9: I don't know, but like that's at least the perception

964
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 9: inside that place, you know, So, you know, I it's

965
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 9: just it's it's it's a definitely it's definitely a different dynamic,

966
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 9: you know. And so like for a player, you know,

967
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 9: when something like this is being communicated through Alex, what's

968
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 9: that player going to think?

969
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 10: You know, that player is immediately going.

970
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 9: To think, well, you know, where is this coming from?

971
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 9: And you know, I think in most cases they're going

972
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 9: to assume that it's coming from Bridge, whether it is

973
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 9: or it isn't. And that's where I think like the

974
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 9: communication piece of these things for the Raiders probably needs

975
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 9: to be cleaned up a little bit, because, you know,

976
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 9: you have just a different dynamics than you would have

977
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 9: with a lot of other organizations, where there is at

978
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 9: least a perception there that you know that that that

979
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 9: Tom is making calls from, you know, three miles away,

980
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 9: and you know Alex is kind of his foot soldier

981
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 9: on the ground.

982
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 6: M Uh.

983
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I was looking over Max Crosby's contract and I

984
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: know they just did it, but it's it's an interesting deal.

985
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: You know, there's not a ton of dead cap.

986
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 9: Really, it's relatively tradable, right, Yeah.

987
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: Well I was going to say tradable, yes, but also

988
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: one in which maybe you're having a little bit of

989
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: like buyer's remorse, right, you kind of bought, you bought

990
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: into this deal and now you're looking at it going

991
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: it's not that great. I mean, we looked at Miles Garrett.

992
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: He was unhappy they gave him new contract. All of

993
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's fine staying in Cleveland. Is there the

994
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: potential of that too, where they restructure this thing, pay

995
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: him a bit more money and maybe he's just happy

996
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: that way.

997
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 9: And I guess like that's happened sometimes when we need

998
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 9: a new coaching staff coming in. I mean they just

999
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 9: did that last year, so you know, I got the press.

1000
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: They've set the precedent then, is what the.

1001
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 10: Here's the thing?

1002
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 9: Like I hesitate righty on that a little bit because

1003
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 9: like last year, if you read Miles garrett statement, if

1004
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 9: you listen to anything to Miles Garrett's people are the

1005
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 9: people around Miles Garrett were saying, it was this is

1006
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 9: only about winning. Miles is sick of losing, and.

1007
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 10: You know, he wants to go to a place it's

1008
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 10: going to give him.

1009
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 9: A chance to go and chase the championship. And this

1010
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 9: is about his legacy and he's given it long enough

1011
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 9: in Cleveland, and you know, it had been eight years there,

1012
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 9: same as or actually I think at that.

1013
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 10: Point nine years maybe in Cleveland.

1014
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 9: And in Cleveland had been nine years. So like now

1015
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 9: it's finally the chance for us to go chase championship

1016
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 9: somewhere else. And then they put more money in front

1017
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 9: of him, and it's like, okay, well now now now

1018
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 9: we got to take.

1019
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 10: This, you know, so.

1020
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 6: I had here. I mean, I like that.

1021
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 9: That's why I hesitate though, you know what I mean,

1022
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 9: Like I think for maxis is not about money, like

1023
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 9: I I don't think that's where it is. However, like

1024
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 9: I've just payen too many of these situations get solved

1025
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 9: by money, you know what I mean? And I know

1026
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 9: that sounds like I'm talking out both sides of my mouth.

1027
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 10: But you know, like I do think that like a

1028
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 10: lot of these situations.

1029
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 9: Wind up getting solved that way if a team is

1030
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 9: motivated to keep a player who's unhappy.

1031
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 10: So do I think on his face it's about money?

1032
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: No?

1033
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 9: Do I think, you know, if Klik Kubiak and his

1034
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 9: staff beside down the line, like you know, two three

1035
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 9: weeks from now, we really need him here? Do I

1036
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 9: think it could be solved by money. I've seen too

1037
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 9: many of these situations solved.

1038
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 10: By money to say no.

1039
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 9: So I don't think it's like Maxi's motivation is to

1040
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 9: go and get a new contract. He's done that a

1041
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 9: couple of times already. But do I think money can

1042
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 9: solve it. I've seen money solve these problems too many

1043
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 9: times to say absolutely not.

1044
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 6: All right, I'm going to move on to the Joey

1045
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 6: Porter comments UH in terms of calling out his former

1046
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 6: quarterback as as a bad teammate. Do you have any

1047
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: color on on that ab as to what in particular,

1048
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 6: Because you are obviously around these these locker rooms UH

1049
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 6: during the season and have relationships with the players, is

1050
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 6: there something in particular that Joey Porter is alluding to that.

1051
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: You know, maybe we're not privy to I would.

1052
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 9: Say Joey Porter was like an early era Steeler, right

1053
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 9: early Ben Roethlisberger era Steeler.

1054
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 10: So I think.

1055
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 9: That's that That's a big part of it is that

1056
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 9: like in in Ben's early years.

1057
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 10: So if you go like oh, four oh five, O six,

1058
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 10: o seven, he wasn't the most well liked player.

1059
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 9: On the team, and that was when he had lot

1060
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 9: of the issues off the field, and so, you know,

1061
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 9: I think what Joey was exposed to, the Ben Roethlisberger

1062
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 9: that Joey was around is a Ben Roethlisberger who probably

1063
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 9: like it was very much the way he's describing him,

1064
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 9: you know. And I think after everything happened, and we

1065
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 9: don't have.

1066
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 10: To go in detail on that, but like you guys know, everything.

1067
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 9: That happened there, I think that was right around oh

1068
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 9: not not mistaken, right around when when when like early.

1069
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 10: On, when Mike Commin was there, things changed a little bit.

1070
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 9: I think he grew up a little bit, and he

1071
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 9: got married, like there were a bunch of things that

1072
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 9: changed in his life, and I think it was like

1073
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 9: a different Ben Roethlisberger from there. So I don't think

1074
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 9: Joey is wrong to talk the way that he's talking

1075
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 9: to beause that was his own experience.

1076
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 10: But that was a young Ben and Roethlisberger.

1077
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 6: Who ab abe him. His off the field situation is

1078
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 6: one thing, and I get that, yeah, But when somebody

1079
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 6: calls you a poor teammate, like I think, maybe I

1080
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 6: think that's the way a lot of people.

1081
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people felt that way though,

1082
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, like I.

1083
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 6: Did because of what he did off the field.

1084
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 9: I think just kind of the way he carried himself,

1085
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 9: all of that he was kind of seeing as he

1086
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 9: was kind of seeing as an a hole, you know.

1087
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 10: What I mean, to not put to put it bluntly.

1088
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 9: And I think he'd tell you that like that early

1089
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 9: in his career, there were a lot of people that

1090
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 9: saw him that way. You know, that he kind of

1091
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 9: carried himself that way and was perceived that way. And

1092
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 9: I don't know how much he did to combat the

1093
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 9: perception that's what he was, you know.

1094
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 10: So I would say, like a lot A big piece of.

1095
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 9: It, not that he not that he was perfect in

1096
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 9: twenty twelve or twenty and sixteen or whatever you know,

1097
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 9: later on, but I believe Joey Porter was with him,

1098
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 9: And now that I'm doing it, my head because I

1099
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 9: think Joey Porter went to the Dolphins and I want to.

1100
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 10: Say it was No. Seven because he was there.

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00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 9: Because Joey Porter was there for that Cam Cameron year.

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Speaker 9: If you remember, yeah, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I think what was.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was a banner year. I don't know if you

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 9: guys remember this, but I believe Joey Porter had a

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 9: confrontation with Cam Cameron in the team meeting room that year.

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 9: But we don't need to relive all of that, but yeah,

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 9: so it would have been four or five US.

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but I'd love to hear it.

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00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I really, honestly, I don't remember the details of it.

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Speaker 6: But there was.

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 9: A very loud calling out of the head coach that

1114
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 9: happened in the meeting room, and I think Joey Porter

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00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 9: was the loudest voice in the room. Would probably be

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 9: the way to put it, and so but he but

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00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 9: but but but but Yeah. Supporter was just around Ben

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00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 9: for the first three years of Ben's career, and I

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00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 9: think the way that he described Ben would probably be

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Speaker 9: the way a lot of people would described Ben.

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Speaker 5: For those years, Abe before I let you go.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of the Dolphins, obviously the Tua Kyler uh conversation,

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Speaker 4: What what are the Cardinals and Dolphins do at the

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: court of position?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we know what the options are.

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00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 4: What's the realistic ending to both of those in Arizona

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00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: and in Miami.

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Speaker 9: I don't think either of them are going to be

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 9: on those teams next year.

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Speaker 10: You know, obviously in both places you got.

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00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 9: New coaches Michael Floor in Arizona Jeff Athley and in Miami.

1132
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 9: And you know, the question is how this happens.

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00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 10: And you know, I think.

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00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 9: They're both complicated and and they're complicated by the contract.

1135
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 10: So this is why, like I actually think the.

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 9: Niners would get a much bigger return for Max Jones

1137
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 9: then the Dolphins.

1138
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 10: Would get for Tua or the Cardinals would.

1139
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 9: Get for Kyler, because you're not just trading players, you're

1140
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 9: trading contracts. And Mac is making less than five million

1141
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 9: dollars next year, so he's his contract is incredibly tradeable,

1142
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 9: Whereas you know, with Kyler you've got guaranteed money for

1143
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 9: the next two years, and then with with Tua, you've

1144
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 9: got fifty four million dollars guaranteed next year.

1145
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 10: So the only way that I.

1146
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 9: Could see those contracts being traded is that the Cardinals

1147
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 9: and Dolphins decide like, okay, Like we're okay, you know,

1148
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 9: eating a bunch of the money, And essentially what you

1149
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 9: would be doing if you were eating the money is

1150
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 9: acknowledging no one's taking no, no one's taking the contract

1151
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 9: on We're going to be responsible for all of it

1152
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 9: if we get rid of the guy, So let's pay

1153
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 9: some of it and then like buy a draft pickoff

1154
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 9: of another team, whether it's a fourth round or fifth

1155
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 9: round or whatever.

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00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 6: And move on.

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00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 9: So I think it's gonna take some creativity on the

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00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 9: piece on the part of the Dolphins and the Cardinals.

1159
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 9: The good news for them is there's just enough teams

1160
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 9: out there that don't have answers to quarterback, and the

1161
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 9: draft class doesn't have many answers beyond Fernando Mendoza.

1162
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 10: So there could be some teams that are willing to

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 10: engage with them on that.

1164
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 9: But I think in both cases, the contracts are weighing

1165
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 9: those teams. The contract would weigh any sort of trade

1166
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 9: talks down, and.

1167
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 10: So you're gonna have to be creative to get something done.

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 9: But I don't think Kyler is going to be with

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 9: the Cardinals, and I don't think I don't think who

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01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 9: was gonna be the Dolphins next year?

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Speaker 4: Get him on x at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: lead content strategist at the MMQB in a Thursday tradition

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 4: here on the show, AB.

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 5: We appreciate it and we'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys there, great Albert Breer with us here all

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Speaker 4: right for radio. All right, so coming up next year,

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Speaker 4: we are going to continue the conversation. It's one of

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Speaker 4: the great potential sporting events that you can possibly think of,

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Speaker 4: and we've got more right here on FSR.