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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack arms Strong and Joe, Kaddy arm

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Speaker 1: Strong and Jetty and keep arm strong, yeady Strong. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I get so excited with the calendar

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Speaker 2: turning to a different year because there are three hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty five days and just oh, I understand why

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Speaker 2: everybody is applotting last night.

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Speaker 1: What the hell.

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Speaker 3: You're still in bed? Let me roll over?

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Speaker 1: Who are you? I kid?

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Speaker 3: Of course I would only sleep with my beautiful bride. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, everybody, And why not kick off the

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Speaker 3: new year with how you kicked out the old year.

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Speaker 1: With a little armstrong and giddy replay? Enjoy. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit earlier, but I want to

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Speaker 1: get into more of the specifics because I find this

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Speaker 1: really interesting. The headline sort of hides a lot of

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Speaker 1: the really good stuff. The headline being that you reach

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Speaker 1: your functional peak as a human later than they had

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Speaker 1: previously thought. Now functional functional is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into defining here that word as they use sixteen

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Speaker 1: different dimensions. This is a serious, like university study. This

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Speaker 1: is not I don't know, so many studies, and you

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Speaker 1: should look out for this. It's fun to talk about him.

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Speaker 1: So many studies that you hear that are you know

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Speaker 1: it turns out, you know, it's paid for by the

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Speaker 1: pudding corporation, And it turns out you'd be better off

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Speaker 1: eating more pudding in your life or whatever exactly, Just

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Speaker 1: dumb stuff like that. But it turns out that people

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Speaker 1: reach their functional peak in their late fifties early sixties,

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Speaker 1: decades later than most people assume when you figure in

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Speaker 1: all these different things. So physical strength obviously, and certain

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Speaker 1: cognitive abilities like processing speed decline steadily after your mid twenties,

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Speaker 1: and I think we all canna test. Yes, well, if

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Speaker 1: you're past your mid twenties, you're aware of that, But

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other things you get stronger at

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Speaker 1: emotional intelligence, decision making. Overall functioning continues developing through midlife,

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Speaker 1: reaching its apex at around sixty years old. A twenty

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Speaker 1: quickly than someone decades older. So that stuff you're better at.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five than you are later. And that's who talking

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Speaker 1: then it until it didn't. Fluid intelligence, because we were

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Speaker 1: Fluid intelligence, the ability to think on your feet and

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Speaker 1: isn't that something? Huh Okay, that's probably good for you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, there's a lot to this. Yeah, other terms

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Speaker 1: Other vantages emerge with age that younger adults haven't had

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Speaker 1: keeps rising well until your sixties. Right that you can

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Speaker 1: call it wisdom if you wanted to. Financial literacy for

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Speaker 1: and that's something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But then.

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Speaker 1: Dig this one. Moral reasoning, because this all comes under

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Speaker 1: research indicates that it reverses very late in life. Your

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Speaker 1: moral reasoning will reverse very late in life. So I'll

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Speaker 1: Late in life. You're a little late in life. I

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Speaker 3: Well guilty, Yeah, is this thing true? I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: interesting that they came up with different terms or more

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Speaker 3: maybe that's why so many old people say whatever's on

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is the case of the efforts the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or you know, combines in some cases.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, Katie and I were talking earlier when

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Speaker 1: in the face of why do we have eighty year

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Speaker 1: olds running the country? Oh? On some of these? Some

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Speaker 3: Right, I got a bunch of old guys running the country,

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Speaker 3: and their financial literacy appears to be there is none.

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Speaker 1: Emotional intelligence climbs through midlife before tapering off. Based on

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Speaker 1: research comparing age groups older adults, this is a financial one.

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Speaker 1: younger adults to avoid the sunk cost fallacy, the habit

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Speaker 1: Let's just move on, as opposed to well we've come

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Speaker 3: Again, it's a question of having lived through that sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that they did that. They separate out

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Speaker 1: financial intelligence, where it might just be all wisdom there,

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Speaker 1: it's just accumulated knowledge. And yeah. Personality also matures with age.

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Speaker 1: Conscientiousness and emotional stability, which are the two traits that

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Speaker 1: not who you know, it's who you Wow. Conscientiousness and

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Speaker 1: Both increase from early adulthood, well into your fifties and sixties.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. Researchers. Weaited these various dimensions and created

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Speaker 1: Well, we're not designed to live past that, right, Really

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Speaker 1: conscientiousness and emotional what was it? Stability? Stability? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can that be translated as being beaten down for emotional stability? No,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine, I've been kicked before. Well, it is true

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Speaker 3: you get emotional stability.

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Speaker 1: But I remember, God, quite a few years ago, I

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Speaker 1: which took all the fun out of it. But there

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Speaker 1: is you do also gain emotional stability, don't you think

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Speaker 1: it isn't low tea because of Gabe. Again, because you've

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Speaker 1: been through these situations before. This isn't the first time

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Speaker 1: the ass. It's not the first time any of these

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Speaker 1: Well please if anybody disagrees with this.

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Speaker 3: By the time you're playing in your third Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: Think about raising kids, the second kid versus the first kid.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about sha, yeah, the just the you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they dout there, they're fine.

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Speaker 3: Getting back to the testosterone thing, though, What what you

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Speaker 1: But and I believe in free will.

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Speaker 3: I believe we have a certain amount of control over

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm just trying to claim that any any

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Speaker 3: time where you didn't lose your head, and you're thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's why you had it. When you get older, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and shirt, you're most likely to do a good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now, the fact, as it says here that

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Speaker 3: that because there is no accumulated knowledge to be had.

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Speaker 1: Give me just a second. With this guy, I would

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Speaker 1: What are fridge cigarettes? I like to hip you, obviously

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Speaker 1: Many summers and moons. Fridge cigarettes. It's your pop in

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Speaker 1: It's fridge cigarettes. You're drinking soda. It's like smoking cigarettes

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Speaker 3: The sitting thing, Oh, I do it too much. One

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Speaker 3: of my favorite books I've ever read about politics is

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: They're asking him about his superachievements this year and previous

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Speaker 5: my golf ever started affecting my home life or whatever

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Speaker 5: affected the relationship I have with my wife or with

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Speaker 5: my son, you know that's gonna be the last day

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Speaker 5: that I play out.

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Speaker 1: Here for a living.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is not the be all, end all.

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Speaker 5: This is not the most important thing in my life.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I wrestle with why is this so

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Speaker 5: important to me? Because you know, I would much rather

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Speaker 5: be a great father than I would be a offer.

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Speaker 5: You know that at the end of the day, that

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Speaker 5: that's what's more important to me. So just to summarize,

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of us and I mean us. Oh,

447
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Speaker 5: let me put this aside. Yeah, the money's pretty good.

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Speaker 5: He's made a hell of a lot of money. He

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Speaker 5: lives a great lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to worry about money ever again, which

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Speaker 3: is a big deal if you've ever or are currently

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Speaker 3: worried about money.

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Speaker 1: I get that. But having said that, I think all

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Speaker 1: of us.

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Speaker 3: Think happiness is the like the triumph or that's what

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Speaker 3: we're looking for, or the falling in love, or the

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Speaker 3: big win, or the fame or the congratulations from the

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Speaker 3: crowd or your contemporaries, your colleagues even but it's it's

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Speaker 3: not there.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So one thing that popped into my mind is it

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Speaker 1: reminded me of Woody Allen talking a lot in his book.

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Speaker 1: Woody Allan is a movie direc one of the most

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Speaker 1: famous movie directors of all time. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: who he is anyway, in his autobiography that he wrote

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, he loved making movies the

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Speaker 1: way this guy loves practicing. And you know the process.

468
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Speaker 1: But like he'd finish the movie and be like, you

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Speaker 1: just see what he's done and move on to the

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Speaker 1: next one. He's like, no enjoyment in the finished product.

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Speaker 1: He'd never watch him, he would never pay any attention

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Speaker 1: to the reviews. It was just the process was the

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Speaker 1: only thing that there was an enjoyment, the thing that

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Speaker 1: most well, I don't know most people, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of people think would be where you get the enjoyment.

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Speaker 1: The finished product or the winning the tournament or becoming

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Speaker 1: the top salesman or whatever is not what you think

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get quiet satisfaction out of it, like

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Speaker 3: he was talking about. But the idea of like constant

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Speaker 3: joy is that the right word, you know, happiness slash

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Speaker 3: euphoria slash cheerfulness slash excitement. That's just that's not what

483
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Speaker 3: we need to chase because it's illusory. It goes way

484
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Speaker 3: so quickly, you know, it was kind of it passed

485
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Speaker 3: by so quickly. But I can relate to and it's

486
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Speaker 3: a great description. So he wins a super giant golf

487
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Speaker 3: tournament that millions of people around the world just dream

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Speaker 3: of being good enough to win that tournament. Having the acclaim,

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Speaker 3: getting the check, blah blah blah, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: half an hour later it's like, what do you want

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Speaker 3: to have for dinner. That's a pretty good description of

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Speaker 3: the way life really is. Yes, it's about the people

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Speaker 3: you care about. I mean, isn't that just the bottom line?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, and get I get well. I guess the

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Speaker 1: ultimate point would be you have to enjoy the process

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Speaker 1: of life, not making a movie or becoming a golfer

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Speaker 1: or whatever or whatever it does you do, just process

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Speaker 1: of life. The daily grind, which is what it feels

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Speaker 1: like a lot of times, is what life is, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta find it. If you're waiting for the payoff,

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Speaker 1: it ain't coming.

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Speaker 3: Oh, folks, that was the payoff. The payoff is there's

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Speaker 3: no payoff, Kirk Bluie. That should be taught more. I

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Speaker 3: think that that's not I think that's the opposite of

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Speaker 3: what our culture tends to tell us, right right right.

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Speaker 3: The movie doesn't end. There's no end to the movie.

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Speaker 3: Your part is just written out. Now. If you want

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Speaker 3: to get it metaphysical and talk about religion and life

509
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Speaker 3: after death or whatever, that's a completely different topic. But no,

510
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Speaker 3: you don't win. You never win. You just keep playing.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's how I would sum it up. And if

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Speaker 3: you enjoy it the best you can.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the reason that a person

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Speaker 1: like you know not to bring it back to golf,

515
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Speaker 1: but you could apply this to anybody. A guy like

516
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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods goes off the rails. I think he was

517
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Speaker 1: probably convinced that the payoff was going to be the

518
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Speaker 1: payoff and the thing, and it wasn't enough, and so

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Speaker 1: he needed all women in the and whatever all of

520
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Speaker 1: other weird things he was doing.

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Speaker 3: To try to get the high that he needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he wanted that fist pumping, yelling moment to like last, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was the gold.

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Speaker 1: So to the idea that there is no payoff, here's

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Speaker 1: here's the you know, here's the key thing to know

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Speaker 1: about life. There is no payoff. Can how many of

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Speaker 1: us can you look at the day today and I've

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Speaker 1: got a very mundane routine day, work, got an appointment

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Speaker 1: with something, somebody's gonna come fix something on my car,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, take care of the kids, meal for

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Speaker 1: sam Uh? Can I can you get up every day

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Speaker 1: and think today is the payoff? This is the payoff.

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Speaker 1: Today is my payoff? That motivation is hard. That is hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I blew my own mind.

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Speaker 3: The great philosophers of the world have concerned themselves with

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Speaker 3: this very question, and they've come up with different answers.

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Speaker 1: I may have mobilized myself. I mean, I might not

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Speaker 1: be able to function the rest of the day. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna lock up and they're gonna carry me out of

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Speaker 1: here on a gurney. Ironic. Yeah, that would be unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: Jack Armstrong and Joey Armstrong and Getty show. This is

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Speaker 3: the reason I'm disgusted and embittered.

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Speaker 1: This is the most sausage ye of sausage making.

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Speaker 3: If you're familiar with the old reference to politics, here's

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Speaker 3: your headline from the Wahpole. I'm gonna read you just

547
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Speaker 3: a little bit because it's kind of revealing of at

548
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Speaker 3: least a couple of things. Trump's tax and immigration bill

549
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Speaker 3: clears Hurtle after late night vote to the House Budget

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Speaker 3: Committee passed a massive tax and immigration package central President

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Speaker 3: Trump's agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives, overspending

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Speaker 3: for fiscal conservatives all deficit hawks aligned with the old

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Speaker 3: truck conservative House Freedom Caucus change their vote to present

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Speaker 3: allowing the legislative monstrosity I injected that package to be

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Speaker 3: recommend did favorably to the House by a vote of

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Speaker 3: seventeen to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: But their hesitance to vote for.

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Speaker 3: The One Big Beautiful Bill Act out of committee is

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Speaker 3: a reminder that the far right flank of the Republican

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Speaker 3: Conference remains skeptical.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting they call these people ultra conservative of right

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Speaker 1: wing when not very many years ago you would have

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Speaker 1: been the center of the Republican Party. I mean that

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Speaker 1: would have been I mean as like what the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a term you would have used to define

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Speaker 1: the party. Being fact, it was so.

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Speaker 3: Intrinsic to the Republican Party you'd feel silly even repeating

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Speaker 3: what you just repeated, right that the no need bisically conservative.

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Speaker 1: But I suppose in reality, given where most of the

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Speaker 1: party is, they are ultra a right wing or ultra

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Speaker 1: conservative because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently

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Speaker 1: and apparently not voters.

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Speaker 3: So spending your children, grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.

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Speaker 1: Well all right, Well, this story got repeated a lot

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Speaker 1: over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of

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Speaker 1: our credit scores by one of the major organizations that

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Speaker 1: does that sort of Thingiz.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend it kind of got put out there

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Speaker 1: that it was like a Trump thing because of tariffs

583
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Speaker 1: or whatever. It was basically around the fact that our

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Speaker 1: debt is just so high. It's just like the would

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Speaker 1: happen to you if you go to the bank and

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Speaker 1: they take a look at your well you've got with

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Speaker 1: your car payments. Now you bought like eight cars and

588
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Speaker 1: two houses, and you're you're just overmaxed. So we you

589
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Speaker 1: have eighty thousand dollars in credit card bills and you

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Speaker 1: only make ninety a year, right, right, So these dong

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Speaker 1: grady because you just spend more than you make. That's

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Speaker 1: what happened. That didn't happen just in the last one

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Speaker 1: hundred days under Trump. We've been building this for a

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 3: And the final reason I am completely embittered about the

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Speaker 3: Republican Party in politics and America and democracy and life

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Speaker 3: on Earth is.

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Speaker 1: The fact that, and it's it's a two part horror show.

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Speaker 3: Part number one is that there are a bunch of

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Speaker 3: swing district Republicans from big blue states California and New York.

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Speaker 3: Most notably, who are not only trying to defend the

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Speaker 3: idea of the salt deduction, the state and local tax deduction,

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Speaker 3: they want to raise it from ten thousand dollars to

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Speaker 3: at least thirty thousand dollars and maybe fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Meaning if you live in a tax and spend lunatic

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Speaker 3: state like say California, all of those incredibly high taxes

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Speaker 3: you're paying, you can deduct from your federal tax return.

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Speaker 3: So the other states will subsidize the tax and spend

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Speaker 3: lunacy of New York and California. So my brothers in

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Speaker 3: Kansas pay some of my taxes because I live in California.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from the other states,

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Speaker 3: You pay a lower federal tax rate significantly lower depending

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Speaker 3: on how much money you make than folks in fiscally

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Speaker 3: responsible states, and is indefensible morally. It's indefensible as a

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Speaker 3: for Republican reason, not the party, but the idea of

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Speaker 3: we have a federal system than states, and the states

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Speaker 3: can do what they want, and they should do what

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Speaker 3: they want.

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Speaker 1: You're fine.

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Speaker 3: If Massachusetts wants to have a sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Percent income tax, go ahead. I'm not living there, but

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states

625
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Speaker 3: is it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican,

626
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Speaker 3: he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness.

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Speaker 1: The idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. It's it's hard to swallow. I mean, you know,

629
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Speaker 1: it would help Joe and I if this happens financially,

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Speaker 1: but it's awful, absolutely awful. You I believe you can't

631
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Speaker 1: defend it.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's I am horrified. I don't care how

633
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Speaker 3: much it would benefit me. God bless me. I have principles.

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Speaker 3: It's really held me back in life. Jack too, I

635
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Speaker 3: just I'm done. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well. Like I said last week, Sarah Isger

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Speaker 1: of The Dispatch, I heard her on a podcast. They're

638
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Speaker 1: having this discussion about party and she said, there are

639
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Speaker 1: no political parties. What are we talking about here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I need to seek that out because I think she

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Speaker 3: nailed absolutely, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: There are no political parties. There's just whoever emerges as

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Speaker 1: the candidate, cycle by cycle, and then whatever they believe

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Speaker 1: the party goes along with and it's through on both sides.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that there are parties that stand for something,

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Speaker 1: we need.

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Speaker 3: To all move past that from my hero hl Menken,

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Speaker 3: every election is a sort of advance auction sale of

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Speaker 3: stolen goods. That's always been true. There was a time

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Speaker 3: when a certain party had certain principles that I do.

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Speaker 1: You have time is past. You know what.

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Speaker 3: My my high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my wife of

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Speaker 3: forty years is when she's not turning tricks, she's killing

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Speaker 3: people for the mob. Okay, she's not the woman I

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Speaker 3: nothing to.

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Speaker 1: Do with my beloved bride Judith.

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Speaker 2: She's not the person she was.

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Speaker 1: You can forget it.

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Speaker 3: It's over, So move on, Get up, Get an ai

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Speaker 1: My girlfriend like a normal person. Jack Armstrong and Joe,

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show