WEBVTT - CLASSIC: Ancient Flying Machines 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.600 Fellow conspiracy realist, we are returning to you with a 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:08.720 classic episode. Who doesn't love hopping on a plane? Statistically 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.280 a lot of people, but humans have been in love 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.320 with the ideal flight for a long long time. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:15.440 I mean, it's pretty cool. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:17.680 We can just hop into like a giant tube that 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.680 takes off from the ground and floats through the sky 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.799 and then get out at another location. Short of some 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.840 of the inconveniences that go along with it, It's pretty miraculous. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:32.360 And simultaneously, guys, human beings have been reporting, writing down, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:37.240 drawing pictures of weird vites in the sky, flying contraptions, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.120 and then what have these things been? I always think 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:44.760 of Ondanakin when I when I say the word vias. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.080 Vias that's right, yes, oh Vimana's described in the Vedas. Yes, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.080 thank you about these are texts written in India over 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:57.040 three thousand years ago. They definitely made Eric Vondanikin's career 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.400 or a big part of it. And back in twenty 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:05.040 twenty one, we started asking ourselves was this just really 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.040 good fiction or the Should these just be taken as 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:13.639 spiritual tales or folklore or were they based on something else? 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.720 Now, what a great setup. Let's just roll the table. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:24.039 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.440 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.480 learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:39.440 production of iHeartRadio. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.960 Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:46.880 my name is Noel. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.760 They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.560 super producer Paul. Mission control decands, most importantly, you are you. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.720 You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.960 want you to know. Today's episode follows up on an 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:05.760 earlier Listener Male segment inspired by an episode of a 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:11.000 program known as Ancient Aliens. Ernest contacted us and asked 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:16.079 some interesting questions about mercury and ancient tombs, and then 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.000 took a turn to something that we have thought about 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.360 for years, which is, weirdly enough, a topic we've never covered, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.919 the idea of ancient flying machines. Talk about a rabbit hole. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.280 I know you guys have heard of, you know, like 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.440 Chariot of the Gods with Eric von danikin right. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.160 No, that it sounds amazing. I just love the expression 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.160 chariot of the Gods. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.360 I believe it's chariots of the gods of the goods. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:45.280 Yes, yes. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:51.639 Eric von Danakin is one of the advocates, or one 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.000 of the main voices in this sphere of hidden history 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:02.800 conspiracies that argues ancient civilization had technology that was even 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.840 more sophisticated than the technology we have today. This technology 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.240 was lost and may one day be rediscovered. So this 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.760 how does this all relate to mercury? We'll tell you 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.680 the main headline here first is that mercury was super 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.680 popular with ancient elites for a number of reasons. Here 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:25.600 are the facts. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.000 Yeah, so the use of mercury has been going on 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.400 for quite a long time, much longer ago than those 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:38.640 hatters that got their moniker of being mad from mercury poisoning. So, yeah, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.680 mercury actually played a role in ancient civilizations across the 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:43.400 entire world. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.560 It's one of the first metals. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.240 That was known to humanity and that humanity figured out 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.760 a way to use. Archaeologists found mercury in an Egyptian 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.680 tomb that dated back to fifteen hundred BC, and the 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.960 Egyptians and the Chinese might have been using something called 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.240 cinnabar as a red pigment for centuries even before the 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.640 birth of Christ. So in many civilizations, mercury was almost 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.320 like considered a magical substance that was used to satisfy 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.280 or chase away the malevolent spirits. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:20.560 Yeah, and cinebar itself is a toxic mercury sulfide mineral 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.840 that was once commonly used as a pigment. So alchemists 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:31.799 of old thought that mercury had these a wide range 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:36.400 of mystical properties that through the use of mercury properly applied, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.440 one could transform metals transmute based metals into more valuable 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:47.240 things like gold. They also thought it could have you know, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.360 we talked about anti aging technology in a previous episode. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.320 They also thought that mercury could be the key to 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.360 a much longer lifespan. There were legends of people living 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.880 hundreds and hundreds of years entirely due to their judicious 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:08.360 consumption of mercury. Greek civilization knew about mercury also used 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.520 it as a medicine. The use of mercury to treat 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:18.920 specifically syphilis, started around the fifteenth century continued into the 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:24.360 mid nineteen hundreds. Spoiler, folks, it's not the best syphilis 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.279 treatment out there. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.080 To put it mildly, now, it's sort of like cutting 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.159 off your ear, you know, to help you with some 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.680 other problem, like yeah, exactly, yeah, there you go, yeah exactly. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.160 I'd love to see a modern commercial for that time 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.920 in mercury as a medicine for syphilis, Like why would 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.960 the side effects be? What would they have to read 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.160 legally as the side effects? 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.360 It would be madness, existential dread more so than usual, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:01.080 and what like death instant death because of how much 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:01.560 you consume. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:07.080 So it would probably be something like the Who's warning, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.960 which we'll just read an end of the commercial voice. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.920 So I picture, you know, picture some nice music, Paul, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.200 can you give us some like prosaic, big pharma ad 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.320 music perfect okay? 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:20.279 And then the tag. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.320 Your life with mercury. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.400 Yes, the inhalation of mercury vapor can produce harmful effects 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.039 on the nervous, digestive, and immune system, lungs, in kidneys, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.120 and maybe fatal. The inorganic salts of mercury are corrosive 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.960 to the skin, eyes, and gastrointestinal track, and may induce 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:36.560 kidney toxicity if ingested. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.480 Mercury. It's not just for thermometers. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.880 That's the that's the ad right, that's it is. I mean, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:49.960 we're making light of it, but mercury is a poisonous substance. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.960 That's why we grow up being told not to break 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.760 open the thermometers, no matter how cool they are. But 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.200 back in the day, like Noel just said, this was 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:05.520 used in multiple civilizations. Ancient Indian civilizations knew about mercury. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:11.200 The tomb of China's first emperor Qin Shihuang is it's 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:16.960 this massive complex underneath this hill, this mound, and it's 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.480 pretty much the size of a city, right of all 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.840 these interconnected underground caves containing all the things you need 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.680 in the afterlife if you're an emperor. And for more 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.160 than two thousand years, this guy's been entombed in this 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:37.040 incredibly ornate complex, and archaeologists believe that his tomb was 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.520 originally surrounded by a moat of mercury. That's a lot 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:46.120 of mercury, right, Like, a moat is a weird measurement 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.200 to use. I don't think I've ever measured something in 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.000 moat units. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.600 Yeah, well, yeah, in this case, it's surrounding a tomb. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.320 I guess how large your moat is depends precisely on 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.240 how large you're tomb is or your sarcophagus or you're 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.760 you know, whatever you're inside of, because it's not the 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.920 entire building that was surrounded by a moat the way 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.280 you would imagine a castle or something in a moat. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.280 But it was certainly way more mercury than you'd expect. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.200 He was mercury rich. Chinese tradition at the time of 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.960 this emperor's life and his burial held that mercury could 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:34.440 bestow immortality or a very extreme form of longevity. So 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:39.760 there's an archaeologist named Kristin Romi who argues that this 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.559 belief and the curative powers of mercury could have actually 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.320 been the cause of the emperor's death because this guy 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.760 was also I think we mentioned this on the listener mail, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.920 this guy was also taking mercury pills on a regular 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.600 basis in hopes of extending his lifespan, and those pills 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.240 are probably what killed him at the age of thirty nine. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.400 So he died like in modern terms, who would think 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.440 of that as an early death. He probably would have 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.959 lived a little longer if he hadn't been you ingesting 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.640 mercury on a regular basis. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.160 Yeah, and as you were saying this reverence for mercury 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.040 or use of mercury was across the globe, and in Teotihuacan, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.520 in Mexico, there was this other weird thing that was 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:29.120 found with liquid mercury. It's like half a world away 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.760 in Mexico from where we're talking about, this moat was located. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:39.400 There's an archaeologist named Sergio Gomez who accidentally stumbled upon 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:44.679 this hidden tunnel. Essentially there at a temple. There was 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.760 a rainstorm or something and he just happened to shine 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.120 a light down into this sinkhole that opened up, and 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:56.480 they discovered something very strange. There was basically a recreation 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:02.200 of the what of the underworld that is described at 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.360 least by the peoples of the time, the people who 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:08.680 built Tao Tequo Con who built the Temple of the 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.400 Sun and there and some of the other structures. Part 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:17.720 of it was large quantities of liquid mercury. And it's 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.400 at least it's thought right now. We can't say for sure, 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.160 but it's thought that those pools of liquid mercury were 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.800 meant to represent essentially the parts of the underworld, the 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.319 waters of the underworld. And you can imagine in your 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.160 mind if you've ever seen liquid mercury. That kind of 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.160 the color, the way this liquid metal, the way it 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.000 looks fill, the way it fills you know, any volume 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.560 of container that it's in. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:44.559 It's just. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.120 It's otherworldly almost, And you can imagine how symbolically that 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.920 would be very powerful. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:56.839 And basins of mercury would sometimes be used in divination rituals, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:02.240 right because of that mirror like surface into it. This 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.120 is strange because it gives it leads us to a 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:12.200 couple of interesting lines of thoughts. I'm choosing that phrase carefully. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.439 So first we ask ourselves what role did mercury play 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.160 in these vastly different ancient cultures. The question is still 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.959 a bit of a mystery in the modern day. We 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:29.520 know that, like we said, Tibetan, China, those civilizations believe 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:34.280 that mercury had curative powers. It also had symbolic significance, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.920 for sure in Meso American society. In numerous other societies, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.240 it was both symbolic and perceived to be medicinal. So 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.600 why is it such a popular. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.880 Thing in these communities. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.880 It gives us a couple There are a couple of 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.280 There are a couple of possibilities. So one, it's just 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.560 one of the earliest metals known, so people were more 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.600 likely to know about it and to independently discover it 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.719 through the use of centabar stuff like that. Or Two, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.160 A very out there one is what if these civilizations 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.920 had some sort of contact that we're not aware of 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.520 in the modern day. I think the way we phrased 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:17.040 it is, so the meso American structure is built after 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.679 the tomb of the quote unquote first Chinese emperor. So, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.400 and there's a legend that this emperor sent ships east 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.760 to explore other possible aging cures. So what if some 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.280 of the folks that emperor sent east ended up in 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.480 meso America and they were like, hey, we want to 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.319 teach you our ways. Also, if you guys heard of mercury, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:43.079 it's super cool. Look at this bowl. There's no proof 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:48.120 that that happened yet, but we know mercury remains a 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.439 crucial substance here in twenty twenty one. Like, people still 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.160 use mercury. You know, you might have mercury in your 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.679 house if you have I don't know, a thermometer. That's 0:12:58.720 --> 0:12:59.920 what I mostly associated with. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.520 What about you guys, Yeah, same, I mean more like 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.840 in a thermostat, like it's still like an old school thermostat. 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.720 If you open it up, it's got a little tiny, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.760 kind of level looking glass tube that's got a little 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.000 bit of mercury in it. I think people maybe use 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.160 digital thermometers more often than old school mercury ones for safety, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.600 I guess with kids, but that certainly is still a 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.280 use for it in things, you know. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.360 In your home. Yeah. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.400 I mean there are a lot of reasons to use 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.559 mercury and other things for switching, like metal switching purposes, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.840 you know, and traditionally it was used in things like 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.400 alarm clocks. There's there are a lot of uses for 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.800 mercury and measuring devices. I forgot about barometers. Yeah, that's 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.360 that's really important. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.079 Is that because it's it's sensitive to like it expands 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.920 and contracts, uh, you know, with temperature very well better 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.840 than others. And it also stays in a liquid form. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:59.200 Yeah, baby, Yeah, it's it's got that high density. Right, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.120 So the height of the column and the barometer can 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.360 be a reasonable size. Your barometer doesn't have to be 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:12.200 a huge contraption. Like there's an interesting tidbit there. So 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.600 you could make a barometer using water. It would need 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:21.160 to be thirteen point six times taller than a mercury barometer. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.800 So to your point, no, mercury is super convenient for this. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.320 But back to that question, and there is a question 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.000 that other people have tried to answer. What caused ancient 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.320 civilizations to be so fascinated with this substance? And why 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.400 do some people believe that mercury may be more than 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.760 just an element, Why do they believe it may be 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.640 the key to some sort of lost technology of nie 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.640 unimaginable power. It's a big question, and it's one we'll 0:14:53.680 --> 0:15:02.640 tackle after a word from our sponsors. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.840 Here's where it gets crazy. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.760 Our story about the alleged powers of mercury kind of 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.040 start kind of starts in ancient India. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.080 When you say. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.760 Absolutely, if we go back in ancient Indian lore, you 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.680 have something called the legend of Vimana. In Hindu and 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:28.800 Sanskrit texts or scriptures, Vimyana were flying palaces. It's one 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.600 of these things where it's like, is this a product 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.880 of the imagination, is this something that's based in lare 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.040 or did they actually know how to build these things. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.800 Here's here's where it starts. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:43.520 The crafts actually have supposedly these magical abilities that almost defy, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.040 you know, physics. In Hindu mythology, there was a demon 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:52.800 king named Ravana of Lanka, that's ancient Sri Lanka, who 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:58.160 brought something called the Pushpaka vimyana to India. The word 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:03.880 vimyana actually translate to traverse or to measure. Other uses 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:10.040 might imply an existence of a temple or a flying machine. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:15.400 Ding ding ding a flying machine. Yes, so this captures 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.440 the imagination, right, But there's there's something interesting. So we 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:23.880 said flying palace or a flying machine. It reminds me 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:32.760 of the popular image of angels in you know, Islamic, Judaic, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:40.080 Christian mythology versus the actual description of angels in the Bible. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.160 They're two very different looking creatures, right, like these wheels 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.360 spinning with all these eyes and multiple wings versus a 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.960 kindly person in a white robe with a humble halo. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.480 The description of the flying palace or the vimyana here 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.480 is that it's shaped like a giant peacock. It's not 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.000 especially aerodynamic if you if you look at it, or 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.560 if you draw something according to the description. But long 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:13.280 story short, yes, ancient aircraft could Some civilization from thousands 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.679 of years in the past have cracked the code to flight, 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.520 you know, millennia before the Ripe Brothers, only for this 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.200 technology to have been forgotten in the modern day. I mean, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.800 it's it's an awesome story. It's definitely true that it's 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.680 an awesome story. How does mercury figure into the mix. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:37.280 Though, Well, there is one Sanskrit text. It's called the 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.920 Vi Monika Shastra. And now remember we cannot, I cannot 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.800 pronounce these words correctly, so I apologize. V v A 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.760 I M A n I Ka Shastra s h A 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.080 s t r A. Now this text, at least on 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:58.359 the surface, appears to fully describe the construction of these 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:04.200 things called vimanas, as well as their propulsion systems, such 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:09.800 as a mercury vortex engine. So cool, right, so cool 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.760 mercury vortex engine. Yeah, let's do that, spin that mercury around. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:21.480 Let's see what happens. And remember these texts, texts, not 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.840 this one in particular, but the vedas are written. It's 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:31.320 thought around fifteen hundred BC twelve hundred BC. That's when 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.360 the like rig veda is thought to have been created. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.240 In some of these ancient texts that are describing some 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.760 of these things, this one that we're going to talk 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.520 about is a little different, but still this is a 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.720 much older text that has This is the one that 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.440 has illustrations, right Ben. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.760 That's correct. Yeah, And this is let's set it up 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.479 this way. So when we were talking about this earlier 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.879 in the listener mail segment, this is the text that 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.600 was referring to when I said these things are described 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.800 as fact rather than as as myth. So it's important 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:10.440 we'll see why this text in particular bears some scrutiny. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.399 Okay, so we we have to look to that show, 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.159 the old the show that holds a special place in 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:24.880 my heart, and hopefully it does yours to ancient aliens, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:25.640 I think. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.360 So I gotta say that who's the host? I love 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.280 his hair and I love his spray tan. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.880 Georgio, Georgia. Yeah. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.800 There are a lot of people who kind of rotate 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.840 through as the subject matter experts on that show. One 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.480 of them is Vontanakin. One of them is Suclos. But 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:49.200 in that show, not yet, but in one of these episodes, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.040 we we've got a quote from it that is describing 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.119 this text. And here it is one of the texts 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.440 talks about Mercury wrote and driving some sort of powerful 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.880 wind or a windmill machine. That might be some sort 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:10.119 of what we call a flywheel energy storage, where you 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.760 have a spinning disk and you extract energy from it slowly. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.040 That would be the mercury that could be used to 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.959 drive some sort of propeller or what we call a 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:22.920 conducted fan. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.200 Okay, okay, let's pause, let's pause. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.320 Okay, that's true. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.520 That was said on that show. That is true. So 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.640 we know that we know that flywheels are a real thing. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:38.360 We know that. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.800 We know that it's true that mercury at very low temperatures, 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.280 think like four degrees kelvin, which is negative four hundred 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.439 and fifty two something fahrenheit, or for people in the 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.080 rest of the world, negative two hundred and sixty nine 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:57.520 degrees celsius. When you get to that very low temperature, 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:02.280 mercury can function as is superconductor. And as for the 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:06.000 rest of the stuff described there, What a cool story. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.840 It is true that that is such a cool story. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.400 You'll see versions of this story going even further afield 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:17.880 into like Indiana Jones Hellboy territory. There's this argument that 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:23.119 in World War two, Nazi German forces took an expedition 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:28.000 into Tibet and into India to retrieve this ancient technology, 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.199 which they understood to be something called real VRL, and 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:36.120 they would later use their discoveries to power their own 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.840 fantastical flying machines. So shout out to the Nazi Bell. 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.679 Here's another thing that's true. There really was a German 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.119 expedition to Tibet and India in nineteen thirty eight to 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.359 nineteen thirty nine, and it was weird. 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:50.760 It was a weird expedition. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.880 The Germans were into all kinds of spooky stuff, weren't they. 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.480 I mean really, they put a lot of stock in 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:57.400 the supernatural. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.520 Yeah, we've talked about this before in a previous episode 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.720 that you could go listen to now. I can't remember 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.960 what it was called the Nazi Magic Made. No, we 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:07.639 didn't know. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.240 That's We've got that coming up as a classic. We 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:10.920 did an intro for that the other day. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.360 Oh yeah we did. 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:12.320 No. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.760 I can't remember if the Magic one. There's so much 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.240 Nazi content, you guys, I can't remember if. 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.200 Got that premium Nazi content. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.440 It's either the Diglock Bell episode or the Magic one. 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:25.440 There's one of those where we. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:30.159 Go in into could be that so so we do 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.760 know that this was an expedition in nineteen thirty eight, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.159 nineteen thirty nine and then, and that there were some strange, 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.879 seemingly strange reasons for going. 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.920 And we know this to be true. Let's just let's 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.600 let's say what it was. The Germans at that time 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.439 wanted to figure out whether or not Tibet could be 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:56.560 used as a staging ground for attacks on British India. So, right, 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.880 so could we actually go from Tibet to attack. 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:01.439 Our enemies gorilla style? 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:05.280 Yeah, so that makes sense, that's military strategy. They also 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.919 wanted to prove this other guy's idea, Heinrich Himmler. They 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.440 wanted to prove his idea that there was some group 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.879 of pure blooded Arians at least that's his that's his 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:23.879 concept there had settled into Bet and according to what 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.520 we know, there was a This expedition was thought to 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:28.440 be a success. 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:29.040 Right. 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.320 They came back with all kinds of samples from from 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.719 the area inti Bet, of the floor and the fauna 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.560 of that locality. But the big question is did they 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.600 come back with some kind of I don't know, mercury 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:45.600 engine and flywheel system that would change the trajectory of 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.480 the German military machine. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:48.480 That sounds cool. 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.520 Maybe maybe that's what the bell was. Good luck proving it, 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:57.000 but we tried, we tried, We did try. 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.280 Yeah, yeah, did they discover some thing that could have 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.040 changed the course of the war, with the only problem 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.280 being the timing, you know what I mean, like where 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.199 they just too late with the secret knowledge they had 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:17.720 gleaned from some hyperborean society of old. Again, a wonderful story. 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.320 We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors. 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:30.280 And we'll be back. And we've returned. 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.880 I promise this is the last time I will say 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.879 what a cool story this whole thing is, because I 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.760 do think it's a cool story and I love it. 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.680 The problem is it is maybe not a true story. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.280 Let's go let's go back to that Indian literature, right, 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.760 Matt Nol. The vadas you guys mentioned. 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.960 Those are very real, Right, those are real, correct, the 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.639 Hindu Vadas. It's it's you know, I mean, there's a 0:24:58.720 --> 0:24:59.600 sacred text. 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:00.960 But it's a. 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.400 Lot more fun than the Bible. I'm not gonna lie 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.920 because it's like almost more like reading Greek mythology, where 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.000