1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Let me introduce our special guests. Erica Bussarhini, known as 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: the Psychic diva internationally acclaimed psychic medium and paranormal investigator 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: based in Pensacola, Florida. She is renowned for her ability 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: to communicate with spirits of the departed. She has helped 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: countless people find closure and guidance through her deeply emphatic 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: and eventual readings. She is an author as well filmmaker, 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: in addition to a guided tours called the Pensacola Ghost 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Tour Guide. Erica, welcome back. Have you been I've been 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: doing great? 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: How about you? George? 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Looking forward to this and thank you for joining us 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: at such a late call. Our other guests had to cancel. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure to join the Coast to Coast 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: fans and listeners. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: They're just wonderful. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Sorry one, tell us your story of the psychic medium. 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: How did you become what you are? 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I always kind of attribute it to 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: it's in the genes. I believe that all of us 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 4: are basically born psychic with intuition, along with our animals, 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: our pets and things like that. And I come from 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: a family that was afraid to kind of, you know, 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: own that that craziness, so I'd get it from my mom. Honestly, 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: she gets it from her mom, and it is a 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: recurring theme within I think our DNA. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: Did you ever have any doubts about your abilities? 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Almost definitely, George. 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: As I was majoring in psychology and I started to 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: hear voices and see you know, unfortunately deceased girls telling 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 4: me things as I watched unsolved mysteries, I did question 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: my sanity. I must admit that, you know, I had 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: to really look at you know, schizophrenia and a lot 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: of the other you know, disorders that people say that 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: I would have to kind of see what the correlations were. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people that have autism and 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: some forms of diagnosis of mental illness are very intuitive 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: people that have parts of their brains that are just 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: not understood. 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: How did you get the nickname psychic Diva? 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think, you know, I won't say I was 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: born in another have a past life, or feel like 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: I was born in another generation, but I love antiques. 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: I'm actually prepping right now for an estate sale, but 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: no one died. 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: It's more of a downsize of my museum house. 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 4: And so I've always loved the era of the nineteen twenties, 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 4: so really not Diva with ego, just diva with old 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: school you know, rocko. 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Anything that's gold and glittery, I love it. 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Eric, I have your abilities ever scared you? 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: Oh? You know growing up? You know, watching movies like 54 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: The Exorcist. 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: I think for a lot of the people now, and 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: you know, the conjuring and all these things that they 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: plant negative connotations and scare us. And what I try 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: to do is to tell people every day that being 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: psychic doesn't mean you're going to be possessed by the devil. 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: You know, I live in the Bible Belt, so I 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: think it's kind of funny, but you know, Annabelle is 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: not going to come in my house and you know, 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: haunt me. But yeah, there have been times when I've 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: interacted with things that I didn't understand and it was 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: scary at times. 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: I would say children's ghost. 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: You know, spirits can be very scary when you actually see. 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: Them, did you know? Psychic investigator Dan Rivera who just 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: passed away. 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: I did not, but I have my own kind of 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: beliefs about different things like that you're talking about, the 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: one with the kondrant doll. 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: Correct. 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know. 75 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: I think that there is a fine line in this. 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: Business with the positive and the negative, and it does. 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: It does exist. 78 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: I try to stay away from that energy because I 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 4: do know that it can physically hurt you. It can 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: give you disease, it can affect your family. You know, 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: you look at like the Haunting and conn Connecticut with 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: good example, Carmen Reid, her son had cancer. 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: She was in an environment that was very negative. 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: So I do think that over time that can take 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: a toll on a person's physical health. And I think 86 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: that is a catalyst to what happened in that situation. 87 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: We're going to get involved into some of these incredible 88 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: stories you've brought with you today, Erica. But you also 89 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: founded the Pensacola's History and Haunting's Ghost Tours. Tell us 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: about that. 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: Yes, well, you know, we live. 92 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: I live in Pensacola, the oldest settlement. I don't care 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: what Saint Augustine says. We were started in fifteen fifty 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: nine by true Tristan Dealuna and we were unfortunately and 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: destroyed in a hurricane, so we weren't a continued settlement. 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: But I feel that. 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 4: Because we're the oldest settlement, and I know Gettysburg gives 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: us a run for the money. 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: I think we're the most haunted. 100 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: Location, probably second haunted in the United States. And as 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: I walk those streets down in Pensacola, just you know, 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: as a Pensacolian, I really wanted to share the stories 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: that talk to me as I walk these streets, and 104 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: that's why I founded that goes tour to let other 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: people kind of understand the history that we have, being 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: that we're the city of five Flags. 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: That's exciting. How long do the tours last? 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Well, we have different ones. 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: We have self guided scavenger hunts, we. 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: Have walking tours, trolley tours, and they range anywhere. 111 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 5: From an hour to two hours and summer longer. 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: That's cool. 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: Now. 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: Also, you have all the Claires, don't you, Clairvoyance Claire audience, Clairecentians. 115 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: What are some of the others. 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, George, I have been blessed or cursed. 117 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: However, you want to look at it with remote viewing too, 118 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, there are oftentimes that I'll be talking to 119 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 4: someone on the telephone or you know, be a reading 120 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: or just a customer service situation where I'm working with 121 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: someone like a calling guff power or something like that, 122 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I'll say, hey, are you. 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: Wearing a purple shirt? 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: Or I'll be in their house walking around seeing their 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: deceased loved ones or their dogs and things like that. 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: So I would say I'm Claire Boyant, Claire Audio, Claire 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: Cynthia and also have that ability to kind of go 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: out of body sometimes and remote few from locations. 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: Since you've been doing this, how have you used the 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: different audiences or Claire's as they call them. 131 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Well, for the tours, I definitely find that. You know, 132 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: a lot of times I say, it's not about the tour. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: Someone might come to do a ghost tour of Spirits 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: of Seville where we provide ghost sutting equipment and they 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: eat dinner, our lunch in that facility at the restaurant, 136 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: and they hear the history of the location, the haunted history. 137 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: But because I am a medium, it makes. 138 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: The tours a little different. It's just not like a 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: costume actor. And sometimes their loved ones are doing more 140 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: of the talking than the spirits of the land. So 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: as a medium, I'm able to say, well, by the way, 142 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: you know, your dad is behind you and he's telling 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: me this, and as you as you look at our reviews. 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy because people will say, I want 145 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: Erica because you know, I've read the reviews and sometimes 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: you know, did people from you know, our DNA will 147 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: come through, not just the people you know from the 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: streets and the history hauntings. 149 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Now the Seville Quarter restaurant one hundred and fifty years old. 150 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: Seville, I want to say, is the haunted the most 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: haunted restaurant in the world. You know, I would say 152 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: that the world the United States. I've had so many 153 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: different experiences. And the reason why is they most haunted 154 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: is because you know, I'm oftentimes disappointed with some of 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: the folk or hauntings, like you'll hear you know, certain 156 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: locations haunted, but once you get there, there's really not 157 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: any activity. I usually can bring somebody at Seville day 158 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: or night, my team can, my tours. 159 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: Will and they get activity all the time. So it's 160 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: not hit or miss. 161 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: It's not maybe it's usually you know, even the skeptical 162 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: of skeptics will walk around and say, I can't explain this. 163 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: We just recently had a reggae band playing in the 164 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: back and there. If you check out my Facebook page, 165 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: you'll see where I was talking to a spirit with 166 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: a ghost tube sls and he is literally playing the 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: piano as where jamming is in the background and I'm saying, hey, 168 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: you're jamming, and. 169 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: It just disappears. So yeah, it's very haunted. Seville Quarter 170 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: in Pensacola. 171 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: What makes it so haunted? 172 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: You know, there are layers there. 173 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: You know, I think the area has the history of 174 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: being the city of Five Flags, and you know, in 175 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: this time right now where we have a lot of 176 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: political things about different people of different nationalities and needing 177 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: to leave the United States, you know, I'm you know, 178 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: reminiscent of a place like Pensacola with such diversity, being 179 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: the city of the Five Flags that's going through Spain 180 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: and France and Great Britain and even the Confederacy into becoming. 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: The United States. 182 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: But there are so many layers of people there with 183 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: stories to tell, and I just feel like some of it. 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: Is residual, but some of it is active. 185 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: And in Sabil. 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: Specifically, you have a dead man who died in the cooler, 187 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: you have ladies that you know worked in there as 188 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: a brothel, and you have children and I don't know 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: the location having artifacts and different things from all over 190 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: the world also adds to it being somewhat of a 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: portal in my opinion. 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Let's go through some of these hauntings. Who's Wesley Gibbs. 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: So Wesley Gibbs did June e of nineteen ninety. He 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: was basically Wesley had been a worked in construction most 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: of his life and he was six seven, So when 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: people say I see a slender man, they don't understand. 197 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: Wesley was a very tall individual and he wanted to 198 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: work at very bad but the owners at the time, 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: the Mitchells, really didn't want to hire Wesley because he 200 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: didn't have any bartending experience. But he eventually got in 201 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: the door and he proved himself and he became a 202 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: favorite of many of the locals. 203 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: And unfortunately, one faded day he was working and he 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: started sweating. 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: Everybody went home and he's back in the bar cleaning 206 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: and he started sweating a little bit more, and he 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: didn't realize at twenty seven that he was having a 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: heart attack, and yeah, he went into the cooler to 209 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: cool down, and unfortunately that's where he had that heart attack, 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: had a little bit of blunt force trauma, and he 211 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 4: was discovered hours later died of hypothermia. But they also 212 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 4: noted he had an enlarged heart, which is sometimes a 213 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: silent killer. More fans and things like that can unfortunately 214 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: affect people that are that tall. 215 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Does he haunt it in a good way or an 216 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: evil way? 217 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: He's good. 218 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: But you know, we've done some research. I hate to 219 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 4: say we stopped the family, but we have. We've done 220 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: some research about him and individually and his family, and 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: we just found that he was he is an activist 222 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: of people and women. And so when you think about 223 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: that time, you know, back it was okay for the 224 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: women in fishnets with garters that were wearing almost like 225 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: the playgirl Buddy outfit to get this is before me 226 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: to movement everybody. It's okay for them to get a 227 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: pinch on the butt or you know. And so I 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: think when those men would do that, Wesley would also 229 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 4: give them some type of swift Ceville justice. And when 230 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: they would go in the restroom, the hand driers would 231 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: turn on, the automatic toilets would turn on, the lights 232 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: would turn off. He would pretty much make them almost urinate, 233 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: maybe on their shoes or their pants. It is well 234 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: known that he would do things like that if you 235 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: were not a nice person. 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: So I think he overall is a very kind and sweet. 237 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: They call him Stretch. He's a wonderful ghost. He's very kind, 238 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: but he doesn't play. He does do what I call 239 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: Wesley Swift Seville justice. 240 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: What about ghostly children playing with a red ball? 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so that started. 242 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: You know. I wish I could say I came up 243 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: with this as a medium, but no, this actually started 244 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: because children from all over. 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: The globe would come to Seville. 246 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: It's a hot spot destination just for tourism. It's a 247 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: beautiful building, dating back to nineteen sixty seven, and it's got. 248 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 5: Seven different bars, very eclectic. 249 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: So families come with their children in there, and a 250 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: lot of times the children will notice, hey, mom, can 251 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: I go play with that kid or those children down 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: there in the alleyway which is a hall, And parents 253 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: will say, what are you talking about. I don't see 254 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: any kids, And you know, if they stay in the building, 255 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: and that's a big if but if they stay in 256 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: the building, then we hear about is this place haunted? 257 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: Because my daughter just saw a child and there's no child. 258 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: So that the children have actually reported the children with 259 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: the balls and playing in the hallway and laughing and 260 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: giggling and disappearing throughout the location. 261 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: It sounds like this region has been really haunted. 262 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, not too far away. 263 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: You've got where I call the square for Dan Plaza 264 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: of Death, Death Row. So there is a lot of 265 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: residual and also active hauntings in this little small area 266 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: of historic downtown Pensacola. 267 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: Well with Psyche Media America Bussharhani, who her websites are 268 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: linked up at Costecosdam dot com Erica, tell us a 269 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: little bit about Sarah Wharton. What is her story? 270 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: So, Sarah, you know, they are the folklore hauntings too 271 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: that you hear about in every city, and most of 272 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: them often have a woman who has a white dress 273 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: who's waiting for her sailor husband in the window. But 274 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: Sarah is a little bit more graphic and gross and grotesque. 275 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: She is seen to. 276 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 5: Walk at night under moonlight. 277 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: Decapitated, Yeah, decapitated. 278 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: This happened. 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: Well, actually the story is that Sarah Wharton and her 280 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: father were prominent socialites in the area and they were 281 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: walking down Tarragona Street and he was basically a man 282 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: of means, and pirates wanted to rob him, and he 283 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: tried his best to defend her honor and his honor 284 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: and kind of fight off these pirates that were there 285 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: to rob. He was then shot. They went after Sarah 286 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: because of her beauty, and unfortunately she well fortunately she 287 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: was a fighter like her father, and she took her 288 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: diamond ring and started to kind of use that to 289 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: gouge out the pirate's eye. 290 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 5: He became enraged and decapitated her. 291 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: And the story is that Sarah, and this has been 292 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: talked about over the years in books and things like that, 293 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: and I've actually witnessed this too, where she will appear 294 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: with her head on. Some people see it, you know, 295 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: literally decapitated. 296 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: I've not seen it that way. 297 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: I just see the shadow figure of a woman walking 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: down the street and she does. 299 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: Not appear to have a head. 300 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Where did it go? 301 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: I think the pirates unfortunately decapitated her as as folklore, 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: and I think honestly. 303 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: She's not you know, there's there's that whole. 304 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: Story about are they trapped. 305 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: I think she's not trapped. 306 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: I think she wants people to kind of know what 307 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: happened to her. And that's what I think some of 308 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: these spirits are about. It's not about them not being 309 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: able to move on. And sometimes they just want to 310 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: come back and say, Hey, you can see me, you 311 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: can hear me. Remember my story and my life goes 312 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: on as long as you're talking about me. 313 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: Tell us the significance of Plaza for none well. 314 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: Linder Shaw and several other people. 315 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: And I always say this, you know, when we think 316 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: about I'm African American, as everybody listeners will probably know, 317 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: but you know, we always think about hangings as being 318 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: African American and a square like this where again we've 319 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: got the City of Five Flags. Everybody was hung. Yes, 320 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: there were more blacks unfortunately that were hung. Linder Shaw 321 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: was one of them, and there's a famous movie that's 322 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: been made about him. He was hung without any kind 323 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: of legal justice, and the sheriff at the time tried 324 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: to stop the angry moment from you know, killing him. 325 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: And there were several other tragedies that happened, you know, 326 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: for people that got shot accidentally during this time. 327 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 5: But it seems that because of the courthouse, the gallows, 328 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 5: and that square. 329 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: Also Andrew Jackson turning this this era, this area over 330 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 4: to the United States, so there's been wars there as well. 331 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: The location is just. 332 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: Very haunted with some of those voices of people that 333 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 4: were killed, of all ecdenticities that were killed and hung 334 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: in gallows, primarily because they just didn't have any money 335 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: to get. 336 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: Justice, you know. 337 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, like it is today, justice goes to some people 338 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: that have a little bit more heavier pockets. And these 339 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: people were coming off the boats to the city for 340 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: a better life. And if they were told, you know, 341 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 4: maybe they were stealing, or they could have been accused 342 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: for anything that they didn't do, they were. 343 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 5: Hung or received harsh punishment. 344 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: And you know, I look at now when you've got 345 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 4: people that are almost going into slave labor. 346 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: That was one of the things too. 347 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 4: If they were accused of something, they were put on 348 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: in plantations in different places to work the fields. So 349 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: I hate that I kind of see that coming to 350 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: some kind of fruition now. But yeah, that's why that 351 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: square is so so haunted. 352 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: Eric. It sounds like your exploration of some of these 353 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: events has a moral tone to it. 354 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I think for me. 355 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: You know, we always try to wonder why the activity. 356 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: As paranormal investigators, we want to know why is the 357 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: activity happening? You know, is it your mom or dad 358 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: or grandpa or somebody coming to just say hey, I'm okay. 359 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: After death, you know I didn't suffer, or you know 360 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 4: I've moved on, so you can kind of just say 361 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 4: goodbye to me and let me go. In these circumstances, 362 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: sometimes trauma will create this too, but it seems to 363 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: be in downtown Pensacola where I live, a lot of 364 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: these spirits do have a moral, a moral compass where 365 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: they're trying to aid us in this time. 366 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: I guess the streets are speaking to us. 367 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: They're telling us, unfortunately about their history so that we 368 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: don't repeat it. 369 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: And some of us are in tune with it, and 370 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: some of us are not. 371 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 372 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 373 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: com for more