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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hello lady, Hi, welcome to this Malrose Minute. So we

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Speaker 3: had so much fun. We went on such a tangent

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Speaker 3: on the last recap talking about bad hair experiences, and

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Speaker 3: we realized we're nowhere near done.

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Speaker 4: No so much more to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Like I always joke about, let's talk about my hair,

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Speaker 3: but I realized, I think I actually do want.

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Speaker 5: To talk about hair.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason both of us, all of us wear

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Speaker 2: our hair the exact same now, like we don't do

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Speaker 2: anything with it, Like I don't care what.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing, It's always the same.

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Speaker 6: I can't say the same for myself.

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Speaker 4: I go through like I'll grow it up really long

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Speaker 4: because I just ignore it. And then I'll go, nope,

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Speaker 4: I'm going short, and I'll like, I'll do like a

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Speaker 4: really drastic haircut, and then go what was I thinking?

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Speaker 3: And then I didn't even wait for your drastic haircut

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Speaker 3: on court because you you had this idea came to mind.

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Speaker 3: What came to mind for me was when I did

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Speaker 3: Ali McBeal and I had this areas stockingly wait but

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Speaker 3: longer it was, and also it was thicker because I

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Speaker 3: was younger, and it was really long and full and

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Speaker 3: just gorgeous. And they had this idea that I would

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Speaker 3: cut my hair and uh, that my character Georgia would

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Speaker 3: cut her hair, which, by the way, is why Georgie

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Speaker 3: is named Georgie and not Georgia, because I thought that

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Speaker 3: would sound insane to name her after a character I

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Speaker 3: played on television. Oh so that's my dog, by the way,

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Speaker 3: for those of you who don't know. And it was

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Speaker 3: this it was a reveal, like I walk into the

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Speaker 3: office and I turn around, and I think it was

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Speaker 3: when long hair was sort of out and short hair

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Speaker 3: was coming in. It was a very dramatic, like cool thing.

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Speaker 3: And I think that my husband played by Gilbellos, was

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Speaker 3: flirting with Ali played by Callista and it was kind

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Speaker 3: of my big dramatic moment.

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Speaker 1: And I looked back.

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Speaker 3: At the haircut and it was awful, like it was

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Speaker 3: looked like Florence Henderson.

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Speaker 1: It was sort of like a bowl.

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Speaker 5: And then it flipped at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: It's a bowl.

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Speaker 3: I remember at the time though it was cool. I

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Speaker 3: remember the hair hairstyling magazines. Yeah, yeah, it was in

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Speaker 3: every hairstyling magazine, and I look back and it was horrifying,

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Speaker 5: And then can the reviews say about it? Did they

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Speaker 5: comment on your haircut?

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Speaker 3: Like it was in every hairstyling magazine? Like now it

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Speaker 3: looks to me like the John and Kate plus eight hairdoo,

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Speaker 3: Like now it looks so ridiculous to me, but it was.

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Speaker 3: And then I just went shorter and shorter and shorter

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Speaker 3: till I had like, wow, a little pixie and I

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Speaker 3: loved it. But there's nothing else you can do with

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Speaker 3: the pixie. No, you'll kind of naked. So I don't

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Speaker 3: think I'll ever.

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Speaker 1: Do that again.

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Speaker 6: And growing it out is so painful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the idea was they would schedule it so

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Speaker 3: that I would have long hair and then there had

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Speaker 3: short hair. But then they missed the schedule and I

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Speaker 3: had to go back, so I had a long wig.

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Speaker 1: And a short way you know, Oh my god, hair

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Speaker 1: was such a How did those wigs look? Did they

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Speaker 1: look look terrible?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: They're not going to spend money on a real hair wig, right,

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Speaker 3: Like one of my girlfriends hand weeds real hair wigs,

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Speaker 3: and they're gorgeous, but they're thousands of dollars they are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and depending on the production, Yeah, they might not

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Speaker 4: be getting the most the highest.

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Speaker 3: It's not worth it for the filler while they're doing

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Speaker 3: my trying to figure out my hair. But I remember

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Speaker 3: it was such a big dealer. I remember driving home

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Speaker 3: from the hair salon and not feeling my hair.

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Speaker 1: It was all gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut my hair right before Melrose. That's why

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Speaker 2: I come on Melrose with short hair. I played a

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Speaker 2: serial killer or something and oh, and I was.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want your hair something serial killer and I.

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Speaker 2: And then I dressed like the victim. So that had

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Speaker 2: looked horrible as a blonde and at least to play with. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I had a red wig and I was like, Laura,

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Speaker 2: you look great as a redded.

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Speaker 5: I looked horrible as I redded.

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Speaker 2: But then they finally cut it and so short that

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Speaker 2: they had to shave the back, you know.

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Speaker 5: Because I was like a guy.

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Speaker 1: I was. It was I was.

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Speaker 5: Pretending I was a man so that I wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: caught as a woman. Whatever. Anyway, I'm dying to see

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Speaker 5: this movie. No, it's terrible. I was called a chameleon.

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Speaker 5: It's called the chamelion.

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Speaker 2: But at any rate, I cut my hair really short

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Speaker 2: so that it was shaved back there. My boyfriend at

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Speaker 2: the time loved it. But you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys like the short hair. I've never had it since,

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Speaker 2: but I had to grow it out. But but I

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Speaker 2: felt the same thing.

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Speaker 5: My head was really light, Courtney. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: short years was, but it was like very naked. I

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Speaker 5: felt very kind of like, ah, you're seeing everything. I

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Speaker 5: can't hide anything, you know, Yes, and then it sally.

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Speaker 4: Just grew out and Okay, you guys are describing you

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Speaker 4: guys are describing haircuts that you're like feeling like we're

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Speaker 4: such dramatic change. I feel like I go through that

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Speaker 4: every five years anyway, Like I just I go from

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Speaker 6: I'm constantly changing the length.

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Speaker 4: And but my my on screen hair trauma. I had

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Speaker 4: called I think I did. It was the Outer Limits,

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Speaker 4: remember that sci fi, of course, and I played twins,

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Speaker 4: and so one twin had you know, long regular hair

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Speaker 4: and the other twin I had this really short, like

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Speaker 4: to make that story of two very different looking characters,

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Speaker 4: and that was really jarring.

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Speaker 6: To see myself like that.

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Speaker 4: But on Pretty Little Liars, I had to do a

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Speaker 4: full scene in a bald cap.

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Speaker 6: Not that's completely head shaven.

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Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, so I win here in terms of

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Speaker 4: you know, dramatic extreme hair moment on screen. The bald

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Speaker 6: That my daughter's having about me being in an.

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Speaker 4: Orange jumpsuit with my hair totally shaved, and it there's

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Speaker 4: like a fish eye lens moment where I'm screaming terrified.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember if it was my nightmare or hers,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, you have to shoot the scene. So I'm

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Speaker 3: I can never figure out, because you have a lot

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Speaker 3: of gorgeous hair, how do they make those look real?

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking for the edge. Did it look real?

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Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's crazy cool.

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Speaker 5: I don't never see the scene here.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just this tight thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean they wind your hair really tightly underneath, and

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Speaker 4: It's glued on your face right around the edges, so

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Speaker 3: So you have that sure, at least there in moment

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Speaker 3: when you went this is good.

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Speaker 4: I mean I did take a lot of pictures and

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Speaker 4: send them to my family at the time, and they're.

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, holy pictures. You have to We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to fu I can find the shor hair.

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Speaker 6: Mine's on screen too. It's not it's not hard to find.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But nowadays, you said, Court, you haven't changed your haircut.

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Speaker 2: I always do kind of the same. Sometimes I'll do

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Speaker 6: But well I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm I go short every few years and I go,

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Speaker 1: Why do I ever?

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Speaker 3: And I think I see a cute picture. I think

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Speaker 3: I'm too old for long hair. I have to get

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Speaker 3: it cut short. And I do it, and I go why,

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Speaker 3: Like at this point, I don't care. I'm more comfortable

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Speaker 4: I like the idea of wigs too, that you can

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Speaker 4: like try something new without fully committed like I also,

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Speaker 4: I dyed my hair blonde for a role like, oh,

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Speaker 4: And I was playing this like, you know, reporter, and

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Speaker 4: I don't remember if it was just my idea of

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Speaker 4: instead of just going, oh, I want to wear a

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Speaker 4: which was a huge mistake because going from red to

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Speaker 4: so there was a couple of days there. It was

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Speaker 4: this apricot color. It's it's not red, it's not blonde,

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Speaker 4: did it strip your hair?

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Speaker 6: Oh it was trashed. I mean yeah, I had a

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Speaker 4: Doing it, but it was just so many process scenes

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Speaker 3: When I got Melrow's place, I had brown hair because

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Speaker 3: I dyed it brown to get smart Girl rolls because

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Speaker 3: it was like the you remember this daft because you

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Speaker 3: got to play this smart girl. The smart girl was

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Speaker 3: always brunette that the less smart girl was always blonde,

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to play smarts blonde. I dyed it

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Speaker 3: your color daft, really and like blonde wasn't good on you,

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Speaker 3: it was terrible on me, Like I looked like death

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Speaker 3: warmed over. I had to wear a lipstick. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: couldn't look at a natural look as it just completely

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Speaker 3: washed me out. So when I got on Melrose, I

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Speaker 3: spent six hours at the Stewart. Remember it was a

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Speaker 3: favorite of same as colorists in Beverly Hills. They sent

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Speaker 3: I still have like a strawberry blonde tint. We don't

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Speaker 4: As long as it's not apricot, because that's not strawberry.

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Speaker 4: That's entirely it was.

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Speaker 3: You should It was like I had red and blonde

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Speaker 4: I wish I had to picture of that apricot too,

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Speaker 2: It's like, I believe it weird. Our producer pull some

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Speaker 1: We should find something. But now.

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Speaker 3: The fancy actors all do wigs like they don't even

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Speaker 1: Smart actors wigs. Well, you have to be smart because you.

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Speaker 3: Have to be fancy, because you have to be they

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Speaker 3: otherwise they just look terrible. Like there's right, yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst, the worst and best haircuts.

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Speaker 6: Can we make it a competition.

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Speaker 1: I'm just say hand, I think I wore wigs. We

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Speaker 3: There was a show where, for some reason I kept

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Speaker 5: I could see that on you. Was that for a show?

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what it was, daf I played a

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was a serial killer. And when she killed,

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Speaker 3: she wore all black because I guess that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: I had a killing costume and it was all black.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, we'll find that picture too.

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Speaker 1: But it's still seeing a real theme here. Lord, did

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Speaker 4: I think Sidney was definitely attempted murderer. I mean she

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Speaker 4: in our very show that we're it was adjacent to

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Speaker 2: But weren't you digging Richard's grave?

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Speaker 4: We were trying to bury him Richard? Yep, after you

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Speaker 4: did in self defense. I think that was self defense.

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Speaker 5: Very last episode.

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Speaker 1: I love what you're saying. Yes, we killed somebody, but

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Speaker 1: self defense.

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Speaker 6: It was self defense and technically he didn't die.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that was a great one. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: We're getting there.

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Speaker 3: We're getting there. That was when was really fun, so exciting.

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Speaker 6: I have to go look through my boxes of photos.

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Speaker 3: I've got wigs for the dogs, which apparently is weird.

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Speaker 1: And my friends, how many wigs is too many dog

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Speaker 3: I think now I have five, which that could objectively

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Speaker 3: maybe be too many dogs. So if we did our

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Speaker 3: next episode, put up a picture of Georgie had a dogwig.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, Georgie should participate in our competition. If

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Speaker 4: we do our next episode and we all just show

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Speaker 5: I'm not wearing a wig.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a person think about that and then

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Speaker 3: be clear.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you, guys, I'll watch out. I might actually show

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, guys, Okay.

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Speaker 6: To see you, very fun, See you soon.

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Speaker 2: Bye.