1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Family, family, family, family, family, family, family, family. 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Family, family, family, family. 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, November thirtieth. 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: M G. E. 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: Skeets and alongside me, as always, it's my family. We 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: got Tasmellis, what's up Fan? What's up? Got? Top shot? 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: Hot Boy, Trey Kirby family family, the international man of 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: Mystery taking it to the max. 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: Le Ellis family and friends, family and. 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Friends, last, certainly not least making the magic happen. Superfamily. 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: JD Family is here. We are shout out to the 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: stream team. Really today our family joining us live on YouTube. 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys swinging by here on a Tuesday morning. 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: Subscribe Like comment Share, Subscribe like comment Share. We gotta 17 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: get those Vin Diesels doing that. That'd be fun. Okay, 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: lots to get to. On today's show, we're gonna recap 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: a few of last night's games by playing a little 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: what you Got. We'll discuss the Knicks, saying Kemba Walker 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: is out of the rotation? H Whoa and Leley you 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: got tweeted the night you got a good one for us. 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: I've got two good ones for you. Yeah, oh too. 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if we can do to today. We 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: got too much in today's show. Pick one. 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't pick one because one gave me the 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: second one. So one's a throwback, one's a current day, 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 4: and one's a throwback, So something for everyone. 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: All right, great, But before all of that, we have 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: officially reached the end of the first quarter of the 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two NBA season, and seeing as though 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: all but I believe two teams, the Spurs and the Mavericks, 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: have played twenty or more games, we figured now was 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: a good time to look around the league and assess 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: the award races baby, from MVP to ROI to Most 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Improved six Man and Defensive Player of the Year. Are 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: we doing Coach of the Year? No, we're not. Side. 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do it on today's show. We'll save 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: it for another podcast. A quick note with these these 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: are not meant to be predictions, right like looking forward 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: and that's a podcast for another day. We are simply 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: rewarding the best players from the season so far. So 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do, guys, is give you three nominees 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: for each award, you're gonna cast your vote, make your 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: case as to why player X is deserving. Maybe there's 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: a debate that kicks off, maybe there's not. And then 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll do a little hey what about this guy? 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: Because that's always fun. So let's see from the stream 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: team to who gets your votes. First, one task you're 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: gonna get a started. We'll start with the brend daddy of. 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Them all, Coach of the Year. 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's MVP. I'll give you three guys right now. 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Usually put them in alphabetical order. We'll go with Giannis, 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Steph Curry, or Kevin Durant MVP a quarter season the 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: way through the what do you got tough. 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: It's got to go to Stephan Curry because he's got 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: not only the individual stats. The rosstats are there, tied 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: for the league leading and scoring great percentages, assists, he's 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: up there and steals top ten steals. But more importantly, 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: what he's got over the other guys is the team 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: aspect of it all. Best record in the league, second 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: best offense in the league, best defense in the league, 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: and what would be the best point defferential in NBA history. 64 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: And I bring up the team stats more importantly, not 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: just because that's how everybody votes for these awards, but 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I think Steph has had the biggest impact on his 67 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: team all the way down to number fifteen, the trickle 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: down effect on the rest of the team. The way 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: he works off the ball. For a guy who has 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: won the MVP twice and still comes in day in 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and day out and doesn't just stand there and ask 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: for the ball, he makes those around him better because 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: he's running off all those splits and those pinned downs 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: and those screens. He's still going at it really, really hard. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: And guys like Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green, Kevon Looney, and 76 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole, those are his starters beside him, and they're 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: eighteen and two. It's bloody phenomenal. They're good because of 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: all the attention that he draws, because he's always moving, 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and because he's shooting thirteen three is a game, which 80 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: would be an NBA record. None of the other candidates 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: are doing that. So he's creating so much space out 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: there for those guys, and the Warriors offense is so 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: much better than the nets or the Bucks because Steph 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: is moving everywhere. He's trump Durant and Gannis with his 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: movement and what he's doing out there, and the defense 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: for him is above average this year. You watch him, 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: it's not just rows stats. He's got his top ten 88 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: and steals. The guy's working his ass off. You can't 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: just pick on him, and I think if the voters 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: go to the ballot box, he also has a nice 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: narrative because he's bringing the Warriors back into first place 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: in the standings with essentially the similar roster is last year. 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: You can also vote for him because this is the 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: second incarnation of the Warriors team years later after they 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: won the championships. You can also vote for him because 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: you know he didn't get enough credit when Kevin Durant 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: was there, and now he's doing it without Kevin Durant. 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: And they're eighteen and frickin two through twenty games. So 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: this isn't a prediction award, but I'm kind of predicting 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: it at this point. I don't see the Warriors falling 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: off that much, even though their schedule is gonna get 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: harder and we're going to see them play the Suns tonight, 103 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: which is exciting. This is Stef's to lose at this point. 104 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Because of how good he's made everybody around him. It 105 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: feels like sort of the twenty fifteen Finals when he 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: didn't win MVP because mister Andrea Gudala won it while 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: Steph essentially won it for Eudala. Steph is essentially making 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole an MIP candidate, Andrew Wiggins in All Star candidate, 109 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Draymond Green and offensive player. The guy is doing it all. 110 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: I think I think he's got the most effect, you know, 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: the most valuable player if you want to look at 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: it that way, value to a team. Gotta go Steph Tray. 113 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: Can you make a case for anyone else? Or is 114 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Curry your vote right now? 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: Curry's my vote as well for all the reasons past 116 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: set I mean basically breaks down too. He's leading the 117 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 5: league in scoring on the best team, and he's the 118 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 5: most fun player to watch in the league. Once again, 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: the crazy part, I feel like Steph Curry can. 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: Still even get better. 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: He's shooting a week forty two from three, that's below 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: his career averages. It's like, you know, first game of 123 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: the year, he came out, had a triple double set 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: I played like trash. That's the Steph curry mindset, and 125 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: that's why he's able to put together this kind of 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: season at age thirty three, after it seemed like maybe 127 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: the Warriors were gonna be a dark horse title contender 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 5: rather than a legitimate title contender. But they're a legit 129 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 5: title contender right now, and it all starts with Steph Curry. 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 5: He is the Tim Duncan of the NBA right now. 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 5: He just makes everybody better with his presence. His presence 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 5: is a present if. 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: You will lee Steph Curry for you or anyone else. 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Steph's running away with it right now. I think 135 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: Jannis is probably. 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: Running running away with it. 137 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah, he is. I think Jannis is 138 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: to him. But I think there's daylight between these two. 139 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant obviously we know how good he's been, but 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like he's in that sort of conversation today. 141 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: He's at the table shore. But Steph's got the menu. 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: Steph's the mattero. He's ordered the he's got the pick 143 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: the restaurant out. He's the only one with the menu. 144 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: We all just have to wait and see what he 145 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: orders for us. It'll be great. But that's just the 146 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: way it is. With Steph right now. But best player 147 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: on the best on the best team. Everything there that 148 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: the other guys have said has just is where the 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: award is going to go. And unless honestly an injury happens, 150 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: I can't you know, if Steph continues to play at 151 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: this rate and the Worrior is continued to win, they're 152 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: not gonna They're not gonna beat the seventy three and 153 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: nine record. Of course, they are going to slow down 154 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: to some point, but he is in the box seat 155 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: right now. Yannis has got incredible numbers, as we know, 156 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: he just gets those because he's so dominant at both 157 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: ends of the floor. He's got the rebounds, he's getting 158 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: the steals and the blocks, and the field goal percentages 159 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: starting to tick up and the Bucks are winning. But 160 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: I just don't think that well he could track Steph down. 161 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: Sure if they go on a crazy twenty game winning streak, 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: but right now, where with what we've seen so far 163 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: in the season at Steph's award. 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: Okay, if if Mattio is Curry at the restaurant, like 165 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: he's picked the restaurant, he's definitely ordering the wine and 166 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: all the meals were sharing. Who does that make you them. Wow, 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm probably. 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm probably Luka doncic I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, I 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: came here, you know, I came in all a bit 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: of hype, but I'm you know, I really actually JD 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: is probably my Yannis in that sense, because I'm always 172 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 4: happy to just split a bottle of wine there with 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: j D. I'll let him do the ordering there. I'll 174 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: just be there. We go see see maybe you and. 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: G D are like some sort of like booker Chris 176 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Paul Right, yeah, convers. 177 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, hard to split us apart. Yeah, we both about 178 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: the same. But that that's you know, that's the thing 179 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: with Mattio. He loves that position as being the restaurant dictator. 180 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: Let him be that role because he never he's never 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: let us down with a bad order of bad food. 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: He loves to flirt with the waitresses as well. He 183 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: loves as he puts on quite a show at uh 184 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, you know, I need to get in these 185 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: poth Let him just let him go, let him. 186 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Let that cook. 187 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: Manio is kind of like Steph. Like when he when 188 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: he he puts his shot up, he puts the order 189 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: in it, gives it to the server and before it 190 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: arrives as it arrives to the table, like as as 191 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: the balls shoot going through the hoop, he's looking away. 192 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: He already knows it's going in. He already knows it's it. 193 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: It's a back bucket, that's true. It's already a delicious meal. 194 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: It's already been had. Okay, So everybody's saying Curry. There's 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the stream team, of course, 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: saying Curry basketball references, MVP tracker. They do have Curry 197 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: right now at like a basically a sixty probability of 198 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: winning it. You'll kitch a second. And I didn't even 199 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: have him on the list here, uh tasks, you know, 200 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: I had Giannison and KD and then then it goes 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: Chris Paul and Jimmy and Rudy and James Harden and 202 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Draymond Green and Devin Booker. But is there like a 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: this is more of a looking ahead, But is there 204 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: like a dark horse MVP pick that you could like 205 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: convince yourself, you know, things break the right way, they 206 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: could win this thing, and it's not one of those 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: three guys that I had on the short nominees list. 208 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would go with Joker. Yeah, he was my 209 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: pick at the beginning of the season because Jamal Murray 210 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: was out and if he was able to bully this 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: team to a top four performance in the Western Conference, 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: then it could happen. And now it's an even darker 213 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: dark horse pick because Michael Porter Junior is out, which 214 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: we'll get to at the back injury. So he could 215 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: lift this team. He I think would be talked about 216 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: at this table if he wasn't gone for several games there. 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Now he came back last night, so he could jump 218 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: back into it. But yeah, that's a huge reachion. His 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: numbers are better than last year, better than his MVP season, 220 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. 221 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you agree with that. Lee like he's 222 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: got to be sort of included here. He's missed, Yeah, 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: maybe four or five games more than some of these 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: other guys, but that's not that big a deal. 225 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: Really, Well, you saw a lost not just the impact 226 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: he had. I would desperate for a week, and he 227 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: was the best player on the court there last night. 228 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: I know there's a few players missing for the heat, 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: but it was one of those situations where Michael Malone 230 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: was just so happy to have him back out there, 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: and he orchestrated the game. Didn't have the massive, you know, 232 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: statistical line as we've seen before him, but just his 233 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: impact and just his ability to get his teammates involved again. 234 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: And that's what I think an MVP does, is like 235 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: it's not just he has to go out there and 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: score all the points, but other guys just know, all right, 237 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: we've got our flow again in the offensive end. So yeah, 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: I think he's considering he won it last season and 239 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 4: they are severely shorthanded Denver, his numbers and his season 240 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: could really stand out if he's able to stay on 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: the floor and Trey. 242 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: One thing we talked about on the Top Shot stream 243 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: that we did yesterday with the pack dropping was the Suns, Like, 244 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: is there any play where if Phoenix has the number 245 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: one record in the West, which is definitely feasible. You know, 246 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: who knows what happens tonight. Maybe they send a message 247 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: to the league and beat the Warriors, handle maybe they 248 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: beat him again later and who knows, but they have 249 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: the number one seed overall in the league. Could there 250 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: be a case for for Devin Booker or maybe even 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Chris Paul or is do they can't? That's the problem there? 252 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: Skins It's the old JD and Lee split in a 253 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: bottle of wine. 254 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: You can't separate them. 255 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: You know you're not gonna pour a red wine into 256 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: your white wine bottle or literally what am I saying? Yeah, 257 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: tell me you don't drink without telling me drink. 258 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: But I know it's true. 259 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 5: I know I got to rinse out the glass when 260 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 5: we're switching things up around here. But the only way 261 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: that I think one of the Suns makes a run 262 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: at MVP would be this week. The Sons have to 263 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 5: beat the Warriors twice, and either Chris Paul or Devin 264 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 5: Booker has to be the star in both. 265 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: Of those games. 266 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 5: You can't have a thirty point Chris Paul game followed 267 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: by a thirty point Devin Booker game, then we're Splitsville again. 268 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's unlikely. 269 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 5: But that's the case right there, beating up on the Warriors, 270 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 5: being the number one seed and having one dominant guy. 271 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep it going here. Sixth Man 272 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: of the Year Three Knoms, Carmelo, Anthony Montres, Harrel and 273 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Tyler hero Lee get us started. Who would get your vote? 274 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: Right now? A quarter of the way through the season. 275 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: Pretty good, race here. I'm going with Tyler hero though. 276 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: I think he has been the best overall player off 277 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: the bench because it's not just the shooting and the scoring. 278 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: He's averaging twenty one points a game off the bench, 279 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: which is leading the league in six man scoring. But 280 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: he's doing it pretty efficiently to forty six percent from 281 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: the field, forty three percent from downtown, and then he's 282 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 4: giving you five and a half rebounds of three and 283 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: a half assists the game. So I think I think 284 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: it's Tyler Heroes Award right now. It's missed the last 285 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: couple of games with general body soreness, which is unusual 286 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: for a twenty one year old, but maybe he's dealing 287 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: with something that he'd have been a little bit sneaky there, 288 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: and I think after that it's probably Montres Harold regular season. 289 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: Montres Harald off the bench is a really good player. 290 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: He's high energy. He goes out there, runs both ends 291 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: of the floor, sixteen points and look the shooting sixty 292 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: six percent, not a surprise moment of his baskets come 293 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: in the paint there. But he also gives you eight 294 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: rebounds a game. So Montrez has won this before. This 295 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: is a perfect role for a guy like him. He 296 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: doesn't you know, he doesn't really shoot the three hit 297 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: one the other day. But Montrez just loves this where 298 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: he can go out there and kind of feast on 299 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: those second unit teams, you know, where there's where there 300 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: are other team's second units out there. He's all energy, 301 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: he's all hustle, gets a lot of Dune's high percentage plays. 302 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: But that's kind of what he did, and that's what 303 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: he did to win the award a couple of years ago. 304 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: But I think right now it's Tyler Heroes. He came 305 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: into the starting lineup when there was some injuries there, 306 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: but I think he's probably going to return to the 307 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: bench when they're at full strength because I think he's 308 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: just really good in that role. So Tyler hero for 309 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: me is the sixth man so far this season, tas 310 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: what about you? 311 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. He's got the biggest role of all 312 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: these guys because the heat and the way they play 313 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the really top heavy team. They've got their stars, but 314 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: they need somebody else to create. Taylor Heroes come in 315 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: and Ben a kind of run the show. And I 316 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: think he'd also get some votes for this award because 317 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: people would look at him as potentially the most improved player, 318 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: but that would probably go to somebody else. So I'll 319 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: give him this award because he's been his best season 320 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: this year year number three. He was a fifteen point 321 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: per game guy last year. This year he's up to 322 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: twenty two all off the bench and a good percentage 323 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: is coming back a little bit to earth a little 324 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: bit with a forty percent three point mark. But I 325 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: think he's got the storyline because we've always known that 326 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: the Heat needs somebody else besides Jimmy Butler to create 327 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and Kyle Lowry's obviously helped him. But Tyler heroes like 328 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: their initiator. He's playing thirty three minutes a game. He's 329 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: such a big part of that team, and I think 330 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: that kind of trumps the other dudes because he's just 331 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: he's a key cog on this team. Well you know, 332 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you can kind of make excuses for why the other 333 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: guys aren't. Hero has been really, really good, and he 334 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: also had the narrative coming in he wanted to get 335 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: better after last year's bad playoff run, and he did. 336 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this usually goes to a guard, right Trey. I 337 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: think Mantres Harald is one of the rare big guys 338 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: to actually win a six Man of the Year over 339 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: the last let's say, you know, fifteen to twenty years 340 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: or so, could he do it again? Would Hero have 341 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: your vote? Or is there even somebody else throwing a hey, 342 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: what about this guy? I wanted to make a case 343 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: for Montrez Harrell. Is that sixteen points per game that's 344 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: still fourth amongst players who are coming off the bench. 345 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: The guy was getting MVP chance at the free throw line, 346 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: but twenty points per game off the bench, that basically 347 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: guarantees you winning six Man of the year. Lou Williams 348 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: did it, Ricky Pierce did it, Kevin McHale did it. 349 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: There's a big guy for you, yep, five thousand years ago. 350 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: But if you're potting twenty off the bench, you're a 351 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: go to guy on your team. It just happens to 352 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: be that you're the sixth one that's playing. So yeah, 353 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: I think Hero is the guy right now. If you're 354 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: gonna what about this guy? Ricky Rubio has a little 355 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 5: bit of a case here. Might not get that All 356 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: Star nod could get some six Man of the Year 357 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: love if he keeps coming off the bench. Jordan Clarkson 358 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: will make a run at some point when he heats 359 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: up and Patty Mills. If the Nets continued to have 360 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: one of the better records in the Eastern Conference and 361 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 5: he gets hot, I think he could have a little 362 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: bit of a make some buzz in the six man 363 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 5: voting as well. 364 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you could make a case for like 365 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: a Dennis Hruder two if he has enough games off 366 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: the bench. I know he started more than fifty percent 367 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: right now, but that was with the Celtics missing some guys, 368 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: and he's played really well for Boston, so he would 369 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: be another one task anybody else that you'd want to 370 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: show some love to if we touched on them all. 371 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I threw I included Carmelo as a nominee, 372 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: but that sort of hot start has sort of come 373 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: back to earth here too. I don't think at the 374 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: end of the year he'll have a legitimate case, but anyone. 375 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Else tasks well, the stream team is yelling Caruso, and 376 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: it's hard not to jump on that one as well. 377 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: The stats aren't going to be there, But if you 378 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: want to go with a different kind of guy, a 379 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: guy who makes an impact on the other end, I mean, 380 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna win MVP. He can't win sixth man two. 381 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah a lot. Yeah, that's that's going to be difficult 382 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: for a guy that averages what under nine points per game, 383 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: at least under ten points per game to win this thing. 384 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: But he has an impact when he plays. He's just 385 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: gonna get like an All defensive nod right Lee, Like 386 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: he'll be He'll be first or second team for sure 387 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: at this point. 388 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. 389 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: So. 390 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of those guys who he does feel 391 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: every time he's out on the court, he does something, 392 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: make some sort of play where that's hitting a big shot, defensively, 393 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: getting a steal or a deflection or something like that. 394 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: So he definitely stands out. He's got that. Uh, you know, 395 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: he's a fan favorite's he's an NBA favorite, I think. 396 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: I think because he's not on the Lakers anymore as well, 397 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: he's now embraced by more of the league rather than 398 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: just the Lakers fan base though. 399 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: And Lakers fans wish they still have lost. 400 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: It helps, Oh my god, they love to have him back. 401 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going. The next one Rookie 402 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: of the Year. You're three nominees, right, now Scottie Barnes, 403 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: Kid Cunningham or Evan Mobley Trey who gets your vote? 404 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 5: I think this is still Evan Mobley's award to lose. 405 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 5: At the quarter mark of the season. He's second in 406 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 5: scoring amongst rookies fourteen points per game, second rebounding at 407 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 5: eight bounds per game, shooting forty nine from the field, 408 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: thirty one from three to seventy five from the line. 409 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 5: Those are good percentages for a rookie. But to me, 410 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 5: the real case for Evan Mobley is that he has 411 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: been the most instrumental to a successful team amongst the rookies. 412 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 5: His versatility next to Jared Allen is something that I 413 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: wasn't suspecting. It's part of the reason they're able to 414 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: play together, and it's part of the reason the Cavs 415 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 5: are a top five defense right now, and they're winning 416 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 5: because they're able to throw a top five defense out 417 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 5: there with a whole bunch of big guys. I thought 418 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: that Mobley might lose his lead on this award when 419 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: he missed some time here. He was out for twelve days, 420 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 5: missed four games, But in that time nobody really sees 421 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: the lead. I thought that Caid Cunningham would kind of 422 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: step into that void, but thus far he's played fifteen 423 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: games and only five of those games as he shot 424 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: better than forty percent. 425 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: So I think Evan Mobley is kind of clearly in 426 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: the lead here. 427 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: I thought those two weeks were gonna make a difference, 428 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: but they did not task your team Mobley, I assume. 429 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's the guy. The fact that he 430 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: came back in twelve days, as Trey said, really helps him. 431 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: Supposed to be two to four weeks. The guy is 432 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: comes back and they blew out the Mavericks yesterday on 433 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: the road, in part because him and Jared Allen are 434 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: able to cover so much ground. As Tray said, they're 435 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: playing such a unique style with essentially three seven footers 436 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: on the floor and they're still winning games. They've had 437 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: so many injuries, and I think that will factor in 438 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: if they can keep up this above five hundred record. 439 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: The fact that they're eleven to ten with Mobile going 440 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: down and everybody else, it's phenomenal. And he is. Yeah, 441 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: he's the guy that, Yeah, the GMS picked as the 442 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: best rookie in five years, and it's already happening in 443 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the first couple months. Of the season. You'd expect him 444 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: to drop off after an injury, but he just comes 445 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: back and he's he's too fricking good. It's it's weird 446 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: watching him out there and then watching Scottie Barnes, you know, 447 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: wearing number four out there with the Raptors and thinking 448 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: those two dudes look like both look like Chris Bosh 449 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of Scotty Barnes in the post looking like Chris 450 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: Bosh and and Mobile kind of looking like Chris. But 451 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: I think the guy who's got just more touch and 452 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: more talent out there right now on both ends, it's 453 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: seven Mobley. I mean, he's just I don't think he's 454 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: going to slow down. I don't know if this wall 455 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: is common, if he can come back from an injury 456 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: like that and play so well, I don't know. I 457 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: think he's got it. 458 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: That is a great point that task brings up lately. 459 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: I mean, we are talking about just through twenty games, 460 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: who gets your vote, and we're not trying to like 461 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: look to the future, but who does hit the wall 462 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: that always comes into play. Can any of these rookies 463 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: sort of like power through it, climb over it and 464 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: sort of sustain this level that they're playing at or 465 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: will they crash back to Earth, which happens a lot 466 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: of times, especially when you get to around twenty or 467 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: thirty around the college season type of schedule there. But 468 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: what do you think you got Mobile Barnes or Cade 469 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: or somebody else. 470 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: No, I think it's down to Mobili and Scotty Bonds. 471 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: I think Scotty Barnes is being fantastic and if Mobley 472 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 4: was to miss significant more time than Scotty Bonds could 473 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: take it because their numbers are very very similar there. 474 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: But I just think Evan Mobley has been a better 475 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: player for his team than Scotty Barnes has to this point. 476 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: Scott Scotty's been good, but Evan got off to a 477 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: great start, the Caves started winning, and then they felt 478 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: his absence when he was out there, And you know, 479 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 4: I think that that plays a role in it, when 480 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: when you have to sort of split hairs when the 481 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: numbers are tight like this, I think it just comes 482 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: down to the impact, and I think Mobley's had a 483 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: greater impact on his team than Scotty Barnes has so far. 484 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: For the Raptors, Yeah, I think it's really really close. Actually, 485 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: this one for sure if the Calves and Raptors records 486 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: were swapped, I think there might be more buzz for 487 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: Scotty at this point, maybe being the leader of the 488 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year race. But maybe that's what it 489 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: will come down to. When we get to two games, 490 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: you know, seventy five and eighty and stuff like that. 491 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: It's like, are the Raptors still floundering? Have they blown 492 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: up their team at the trade deadline? Have they gone 493 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: all in on the development? And if the Calves maintained 494 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: like sort of five hundred ball or are they fallen off? 495 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: It could come down to that. We kept saying kid 496 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: could get back into this you know, not efficient right 497 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: now as a rook and there's some other guys too 498 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: that have played really well. We've talked about this class 499 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: a lot, so we don't need to go over it at 500 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: all again. But feels like it's gonna be Barnes or 501 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Mobiley as long as they stay healthy. At the end. 502 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: The weird stat Scottie Barnes already played seventy five more 503 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: minutes than he played last season. He's played six hundred 504 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: and seventy minutes. 505 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah year, he. 506 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Played only five ninety five. 507 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: Last year, wild Man, that's crazy. He's playing a lot 508 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: of minutes for the Raptors play. He's like nearly thirty 509 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: five minutes per game. I mean Mobley plays a lot too. 510 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: It makes sense because he's great defensively. It's wild that 511 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: the Cavs were like one of the worst defensive teams 512 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: last year and then but they're like top five. No 513 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: one would have expected that, and he is a huge part. 514 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Like Task keeps talking about, all right, our next one here, 515 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: most improved. Sort of tough to pick just three names 516 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: for this. I went with Miles Bridges, John Morant because 517 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: there is that buzz right before the injury of like 518 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: this guy that was like really good, if not great, 519 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: going to another level. And then Jordan Poole, who's gonna 520 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: eventually win a finals MVP later this season. So m 521 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: ip Task right now, who gets your vote? 522 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: Lots of surprises, like Miles Bridges didn't expect to be 523 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: this good, but this is an opportunity for a vote 524 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: for a guy that has gone from great to even greater. 525 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: As you said about John Morant, you know there's a 526 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: lot of guys go from good to great. Miles Bridge 527 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: is sort of in that category. But this is a 528 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: special year for John Morant, even though he's injured right now. 529 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: From nineteen to twenty four points per game, he's gotten 530 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: a better three point shot, stand steady and better finisher 531 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: at the rim. He's become a like a different player. 532 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: He sort of changed his makeup as a player, and 533 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: that's just a special thing to do when you're already 534 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: that freaking good to go to a next level. So 535 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: joh would have my vote because he's sort of in 536 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: a different stratosphere. I guess it's a little like j 537 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: D and Lee sitting at the same table with Miles 538 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: Bridges and Jordan Poole, like guys who have improved. I 539 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: guess I don't know why I'm comparing them to j 540 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: D and Lee, but I mean, just like guys who 541 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: are in the same category have gone from good to 542 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: even better. Well, John Moran is in a different stratosphere. 543 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: I guess he's in the medio. He's in the kitchen 544 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: instructing people how to cook. Like that's just a different 545 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: type of most improved. So I would probably give it 546 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: to John Morant because I didn't see it coming. 547 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Trey. Yeah, I'm actually with Tass and Skeets. 548 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: You kind of convinced me on this one yesterday talking 549 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: top shot because I would have fought Miles Bridges because 550 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: I'm always kind of drawn to the decent player becomes 551 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 5: good slash building block kind of player, and that's definitely 552 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 5: what Miles Bridges has become, improving his three point shot, 553 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 5: getting to the line a bunch, just attacking all the time, 554 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: and looking like a perfect fit next to LaMelo. But basically, 555 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: since Yannis won Most Improved Player, it's been the player 556 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: who is good who becomes an all star level player, 557 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: and that's exactly what's happened with John Morant. He's a takeover, 558 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: go to superstar kind of player at this point. He's 559 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: gonna make an All Star team as long as he 560 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: has enough games played. 561 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: By February or whatever. 562 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 5: So I think that the voting for Most Improved Player 563 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: has changed a little bit in the past five seasons. 564 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: Now it is good to great, and that's definitely jaw 565 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 5: this year. 566 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: Lee, You agree, I do, yes, because it depends on 567 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: really how you value this award. If you sort of 568 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 4: look at it like, well, we sort of know jar 569 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: is going to be a superstar, so it's almost like 570 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: he's sort of disqualified from winning this because that's his 571 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 4: natural trajectory. But if then you look at a guy 572 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 4: like Jordan Poole or Miles Bridges, they just have improved 573 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: as players this season. But then I'm also going to 574 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: dock Jordan Pool a few points because he's playing with 575 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: Steph Curry. I will say Jordan Poole has actually improved 576 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: within the season. He started off a little bit spotty, 577 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 4: but he's improved his consistency there. And I just think 578 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: Miles Bridges has sort of been consistent himself in being 579 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: the second best player there, I think for the Hornets. 580 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: So they all have a different case, But I think 581 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: jar will win this award where he is right now 582 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: because it would be I mean, he won Rookie of 583 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: the Year, but then it would be another award for him. 584 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: But I think there's so many more that he's going 585 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: to win down the road that it almost feels like 586 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 4: he's too good for this award, if that's such a thing. 587 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: So you know, that's just the way I feel about it. 588 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: I think you can make a case to include at 589 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: least on the nominees. Lest I see some people bringing 590 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: up his name in the stream team Dejonte Murray for 591 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs. It's an interesting one because, like 592 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: the raw stats have definitely ticked up and he's becoming 593 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: a bit of a triple double machine. I believe he 594 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: has three already on the season, and four total last 595 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: year nineteen eight and a half rebounds, eight assists. I mean, 596 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: that is really really impressive. The efficiency is not as 597 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 2: great as it was last year. No, he was never 598 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: really a great three point shooter, and that's still around 599 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: thirty percent. You'd like to see that go a little 600 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: bit higher overall forty five percent from the floor. Okay, 601 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: you know has to do a lot there as the 602 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: point guard on the Spurs. But yeah, he's he's in 603 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: the running here, and I think it would be tough 604 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: for him to get the buzz playing on a sort 605 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: of a bad San Antonio team. But I guess you 606 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: keep putting up triple doubles. That gets people's attention ly, 607 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 2: I mean, whether you know, I know your opinion, like 608 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: we know your opinion on the Westbrook triple doubles and 609 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: all that, but it does get headlines and it does 610 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: draw eyeballs to a guy like him, and he's improved 611 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: for sure too. 612 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Spurs were really bad though they've won a 613 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: couple here, but they were bad at the start. The 614 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: other guy who I think has really drawn a lot 615 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: of eyeballs and attention is Anthony Edwards in Minnesota because 616 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: it's the highlight reel plays, but also he's up to 617 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: twenty two points a game, forty three percent from the field, 618 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: thirty five percent from three. But you know, he's doing 619 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: everything I think there for Minnesota. So I think he's 620 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: another guy. And he won Rookie of the Year last year. 621 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: He's a second year player. I know that doesn't you 622 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: don't really like that, skisy, but when you look at 623 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: a guy who isn't just been a minutes bump, he's 624 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: actually like, hey, I it was good last season and 625 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: now I'm even better this season. I think that's certainly 626 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: helping his case, especially if the Timberwolves can just string 627 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: together a few They've actually been playing better lately, and 628 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: I think he's a huge reason because of that. 629 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: All Right, our next award, as we keep going here, 630 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Golbert, Dreamond Green or 631 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: Miles Turner. And I'll get a started with my first 632 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: vote because I think most of you are going to 633 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: agree that it's dream on green. Right now, after twenty games, 634 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: the Warriors have the best statistical defense the league has 635 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: seen since the twenty sixteen Spurs. They're at or near 636 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: the top in net rating opponents, field goal percentage, defensive 637 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: rebound percentage, shots contested deflections, on and on and on, 638 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: and Draymon is a huge reason why. He's like the 639 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: defensive engine and real attitude for that Warrior squad. To 640 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: quote Draymond, I saw from an Anthony Slater Athletic article, 641 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: I fuck up opposing offenses. It's like whoa, And I 642 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: mean he really does be it in ISO. He's gonna 643 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: take care of his guy. He's gonna break up two 644 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: on ones. He's smarter than everybody out there defensively, Like 645 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: he knows what you're running, he knows where you want 646 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: to go. He wants to like blow it up and 647 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: get you going somewhere else. He's been pretty special. You 648 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: said Curry's gotten better tasks. There's no doubt this is 649 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: like a great curR defensive system, really a Mike Brown 650 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: defensive system there as an assistant coach for the Warriors, 651 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: But is there anyway this isn't Draymond's and I think 652 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: you can even almost like lock this one in that 653 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: he's gonna win his second dpoy. Do you agree with 654 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: that test. 655 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because this team has won seventy three games 656 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: and sixty seven games the year after that, back to 657 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: back in the era when the Spurs had that incredible defense. 658 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: So I don't think they fall off. I think they 659 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: know how to go for eighty two games essentially. So yeah, 660 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't see Draymond falling off, especially because, Yea, his 661 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: REP has taken a hit the last couple of years. 662 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: People were wondering, as he's getting older, is he not 663 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: going to be able to do what he did in 664 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: those years. So I think he's he's on a mission. 665 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: He's on a mission to be the best Draymond he 666 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: can be. He's got his own TV show. He's saying, 667 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: I fucked up defenses. You know he's he's full on 668 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: Draymond defenses. He can do that defenses too. I guess 669 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: you're right, But. 670 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: He sounds a little bit like Santa Claus. He's easier 671 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 5: when you're cutting, he knows when you're running pick and roll. 672 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: I don't know the rest of it. Right now. But 673 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: he definitely seems like that. 674 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: If you want to know why Draymond Green is Defensive 675 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: Player of the Year, watch the second half of Warriors 676 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: versus Nets. Kevin Durant had sixteen in the first half 677 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: over eight in the second half, and it was basically 678 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 5: Draymond saying, I'm guarding this guy, I'm not switching. Took 679 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: him completely out of the game. And this is Kevin 680 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 5: Durant we're talking about. 681 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: And it always helps lee if you want to win 682 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: this award, talk about winning this award, and Draymond Green 683 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: never stops talking about winning this award, how he should 684 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: have like Tennedy's already and stuff like that. And it 685 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: sounds silly, but it can work when you have an elite, 686 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: all time looking defense. Right now, we'll see if the 687 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Warriors can sustain it. 688 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's also a very strong case that 689 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: he makes, is like the Warriors do have the best defense. 690 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: We know that that's where he makes his money on 691 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: the defensive end. He loves to make those highlight reel plays, 692 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: even though he says, not enough people know what they're 693 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 4: even looking at when you see a highlight defensive play. 694 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, he's definitely in a good spot right now. 695 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: The other thing is, I think Rudy Gobert is a 696 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: three time winner, almost a bit of fatigue is setting 697 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: in and the Jazz haven't been that good so far 698 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: as we know them to be defensively, so I think 699 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: that's going against him and Myles Turner, you know, good 700 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: shot block I just don't think he gets the recognition. 701 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: People sort of just don't. You know, Seem is a 702 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: great defender. I don't think he's a great pick and 703 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: roll defender. I think he's a great help defend, a 704 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: great shot blocker, but he just doesn't seem to have 705 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: that buzz. So Draymond and the Warriors playing well again, 706 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: when you're playing well and you're the best team in 707 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: the league, you just tend to be in the running 708 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: for a lot of awards, and that is one that 709 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: Draymond is probably in the box seat for right now. 710 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Remember last year, at the end of the season, Duck 711 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: Rivers was saying Ben Simmons is the defensive player of 712 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the Year over and over and over again. It didn't 713 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: work out. So maybe the Warriors should stop saying. 714 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it wasn't Ben Simmons saying he's 715 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: defensive player of the Year over and over again. Draymond 716 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: is saying, I'm the defensive player of there. It doesn't 717 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: matter who else is coming from. No matter what it's 718 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: coming from us the coaches, it's got to come from 719 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: yourself and Draymond will let us know. Just quick trivia question. 720 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: Last year's NBA All Defensive Squads. Gobert there and Draymond 721 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Green there on the first team. Can you name the 722 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: other three? Other three? Give me a Drew Holiday that's right. Yeah, 723 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: I thought that would be the tough one. You already 724 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: said the one names one, Yeah, honest. And then Ben Simmons. Okay, well, okay, 725 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: you guys are smart at this. Let's see if you 726 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: can name the second for the true sios did to 727 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: make it. He did not make it last year. He 728 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: has made one before. 729 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go in for a bam out of bio. 730 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: That's correct. Why don't you stick with the Miami. 731 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler, Jim Jimmy. 732 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: Think about a giant, big guy who was out unfortunately 733 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: for a while, he's back. He put up like a 734 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: four Joelle Emband classic. Think about a teammate of his 735 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 2: lee that you were very high on coming into this. Yeah, 736 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: table made it despite playing like I don't know, something 737 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: like that. And then one more he's not playing this season, 738 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: so that's the tough part. He's out of sight, out 739 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: of there. You go, yeah he's good. Yeah, yeah, he's 740 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: pretty good defense when he all right, So we're not 741 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 2: doing Coach of the Year just to piss off all 742 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: you coach fans out there, which is weird timing. I 743 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: coached my first practice for six year olds last night. 744 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm in the running. 745 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: Tell them, man, tell them. 746 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: It's tell everybody your coach of the year. 747 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: You're winning. 748 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: Oh, it's pure pandemonium trying to coach a bunch of 749 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: six and seven year olds. Oh, there's a lot going 750 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: on out there. There's a lot of fun. Yeah yeah, 751 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: leave that you've experienced this. 752 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, like not in an official capacity, just when 753 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: you get a few of the kids together and you're like, 754 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 4: all right, let's play a game. And I owed it. 755 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: This travel leg, this double dribble not what cools fails 756 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 4: to be honest. I just want to get a shot 757 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: up and I just keep running on it. 758 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: There's too much contact though with our we got a 759 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: bunch of football players. I think like our defense, I 760 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: mean we're gonna every guy's gonna foul out like the 761 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: first three. The defense is just like hammering the other guy, 762 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Like you can't do that, guys, But the team spirits there. 763 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: The tenacity is there. We just gonna we're gonna mold them. 764 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, if you're a Coach of the Year candidate. 765 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: Sounds like Ris is on the hot seat. 766 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if we can't do these guys gotta dribble 767 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: and you gotta move your feet on defense, he might 768 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: be out of there. I mean it's only one practice 769 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: in I wonder if they're gonna call a players only 770 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: meeting over juice boxes and pizza. 771 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, tough to have a player's only meeting when you 772 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: can't drive anywhere on your own. 773 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 2: These are kids going up in twenty twenty one here. 774 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean they jump on a on a on a 775 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: zoom meeting. 776 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: For sure, they'll put it on TikTok. Yeah, they'll just 777 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: they'll just trash you on TikTok. Yeah, this guy's junk. 778 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: Anyway, A fun first practice. It was a blast. Okay, 779 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna take our first break when we come back. 780 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: We'll get into a little what you got. What's weird 781 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: is you say you leave your phone at home, But 782 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: then who takes those photos of you always standing outside 783 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: of an establishment with Yeah, guess your brother does. 784 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey does just a you know someone else walking by? 785 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean yeah. 786 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: The photo of me standing outside this pub? Yeah, no problem. 787 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: Where's your phone? I don't cares on me. Yeah, could 788 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: you just use your just send. 789 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: What buddle have you got there? 790 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 791 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: Actually, actually joke on Fellow'll get somebody else. 792 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 2: Jug fella. All right, let's get into a little what 793 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: you get? What's it? 794 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 6: Good? 795 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? Little what you got? To help us recap some 796 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: of the games last night, start with this first one. 797 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: Jonas Valentiunas scored twenty nine of his career high thirty 798 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: nine points in a spectacular first half as the Pelicans 799 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: beat the Clippers one twenty three to one oh four. 800 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 801 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: Valentun has hit seven sloppy steak three pointers in the 802 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: first half, to the increasing delight of his teammates. So 803 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: that was wild. Then in Minnesota, Karl Anthony town scored 804 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: sixteen of his thirty two points in the third quarter, 805 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 2: and Anthony Edwards added twenty one as the Wolves rallied 806 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: for the one hundred to ninety eight win against the 807 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: These are two good wins, So task the what you 808 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: got more impressive win from last night, the Pelicans led 809 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: by jv there or the Wolves led by Kat and 810 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: Ant what you Got? 811 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Wolves because this is a 812 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: bit of a trend right now. They lost six games 813 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: in a row earlier in the season, but now they've 814 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: won seven of eight and that's Unwolves like. They're in 815 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs right now. If the playoffs ended today, they'd 816 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, not in a play in tournament. 817 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: In the playoffs, they're sitting in six. They're actually tied 818 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: for fifth, so the Wolves are not looking like those 819 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: old Timber Wolves. This is a game that they would 820 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: usually lose. They're down to the Pacers by nine and 821 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: a half and they're missing a lot of their energy guys. 822 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: Two of their starters Jared Vanderbilt, Patrick Beverley, and then 823 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: a third rotation player they started, Josha Kozi. They're playing 824 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: guys named Jalen Noel and Leandro Balmorro, who guys that 825 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: are subbing in and getting the energy going by the 826 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: energy is from Anthony Edwards and Karl Anthony Towns. That's 827 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: what I have in the third quarter there, their defense 828 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: got them going. Their eighth ranked defense. The Minnesota Timberwolves. 829 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: Are they combining a little bit more effort along with 830 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: that talent they have been in this seven of eight 831 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: game streak that they got going on. It was the 832 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: Pacers that crumbled in the second half to the Wolves defense, 833 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: and the Wolves turned it on. And yeah, so Town's 834 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: thirty two, many many turnovers in that game, but it 835 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: was an ugly, ugly game that usually they would lose. 836 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: So for this time of year, quarterway through the season, 837 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect the Timberwolves to be up there in 838 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: the above five hundred. So I want to give JV 839 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: some love and talk about those sloppy threes because I 840 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know what the heck is going on with that dude. 841 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: But as far as the team performance, yeah, the Minnesota 842 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: Timberwolves shocking right now, shocking the world. Sitting in sixth. 843 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a huge block from Josha Kogi there to 844 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: save the game. Really like that little sort of st 845 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 2: come from behind. I guess holiday thought he was clear 846 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: and made the huge play, totally clean too. All right, 847 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: the same question, are you going Pelicans or Walls from 848 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: last night more impressive? 849 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 4: Well, anytime you have a player being called Dirk Valentunis 850 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: by his teammates, I think you have to just go 851 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 4: with that, really, because Valentinis, yeah, hit hit seven for 852 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 4: seven at one point in that first half. Only finished 853 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: with seven though, so dissapported he didn't try to just 854 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: go and try to hit double digits with the freeze. 855 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: But you imagine Valentinis and the all time record. 856 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: For yeah, and you could just tell he knew he 857 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: was hot. He was just flinging away there at the 858 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: end and they were going in. But this was an 859 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 4: incredibly dominant performance from the Pelicans, who have started to 860 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: at least show some competitiveness recently had a big win 861 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 4: in Utah. Of course over the weekend. We talked about 862 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 4: that yesterday, because early in the season the Pelicans just 863 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 4: weren't competitive, and now they're at least going out there 864 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 4: and battling. 865 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: Now. 866 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 4: I wonder if teams are sort of saying, man, this 867 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 4: is the Pelicans on the roster or the schedule tonight. 868 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: You know, this is probably a win for us, And 869 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 4: maybe that's what the Clippers did last night. They just 870 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 4: thought they were going to get back into this, but 871 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 4: this was over early on. Well, the Repelicans had a 872 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: big lead early on. I just didn't give it back. 873 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: So I'm going with them. The Clippers have been a 874 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 4: little bit up and down recently, but for New Orleans 875 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: to get thirty nine out of Valentidis last night, it 876 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 4: was a fun watch. So give me the pals. Why not? 877 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 2: All right, Trey, You're the deciding factor here. Where are 878 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: you going? Well? 879 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 5: I ultimately think that the timber Wolves win was a 880 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 5: better win because, like tass is saying, very unwolvesian to 881 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 5: win back to back games that were one possession games. 882 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 5: Most of their wins this season have been blowout so 883 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: to see them when a sloppy stakes kind of game 884 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 5: was really impressive. Got a big three from the leak 885 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 5: Beasley in the last minute. You mentioned the Joshakog block, 886 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 5: eleven assists for D'Angelo Russell. This was a complete team win. 887 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 5: But if I am the Clippers, I'm a little bit 888 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 5: nervous about what happened with the Pelicans last night. The 889 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 5: rebounding advantage for New Orleans was forty seven to thirty five. 890 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 5: Postgame Paul George said that rebounding is the clippers kryptonite, 891 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 5: and even say they're clipped to night if you're a 892 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 5: straight up herb. 893 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: But that's a problem. 894 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 5: They play small and they're gonna be able to be 895 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: taken advantage of inside and on the glass. Fourteen offensive 896 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 5: rebounds for the Pelicans last night, which is why you 897 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 5: get a whole bunch more shots, which is why you're 898 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 5: comfortable with Yonis. Valentiunas looking like Dirk out there knocking 899 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 5: down seven threes in the first half. So that's something 900 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 5: the Clippers are gonna have to figure out. They just 901 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 5: don't have a lot of rebounders on their team. And 902 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 5: if you're a small ball kind of team, there are 903 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: gonna be games where you get smashed on the glass. 904 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: But great stuff from the Pels. 905 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 5: I think Valentiunis has a quicker release now, like he 906 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 5: used to take him two seconds to get the ball 907 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: from his waist to the top of his head. These 908 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: ones look like lightning fast, the trigger threes for Valentunis. 909 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 5: So I guess the pump fake's gonna keep working, you know, 910 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 5: like people will be like, hey, he hit seven threes 911 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 5: in the first half. Yeah, do not give him a 912 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 5: wide open one great game from jv all right, next 913 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 5: one here, I had to get a little create with 914 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 5: this one. 915 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a stretch, I'll be honest. Jo 916 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 2: Kich with his two brothers behind the bench. He returned 917 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: to action last night, scored twenty four points as the 918 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: Nuggets snapped their longest losing streak in nearly six years 919 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: by beating the shorthanded Heat one eleven. Meanwhile, the Bulls 920 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: took the latest battle of the ball brothers, writing an 921 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 2: unbelievable performance from Vucevich to a one thirty three one 922 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: nineteen victory over the Hornet. So the better nikolay they 923 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 2: sort of they do pronounce it a little bit differently, 924 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: both of them, but you get the joke here, the 925 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 2: better Nikola from last night? Is it Yokich the joker 926 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: or vouch Lee get it started? Which you got. 927 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 4: Vucci with those six to six threes? Really clouds this answer, 928 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 4: But I'm going with Jokich because the Nuggets just desperately 929 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 4: naded him back and they desperately needed win. And what 930 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 4: was a pretty anti climatic rematch, the young Kitch brothers 931 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: turned up Jimmy Butler thought everyone to turn up. Jimmy 932 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: Butler didn't even turn up. So I mean, who says, hey, 933 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna show you a thing or two when you 934 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 4: come to our house and then you don't even show 935 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 4: up and then you go out and get absolutely pumped 936 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: by the other team. So no, Look, I mean, Yo 937 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 4: Kich just showed last night obviously how important an MVP 938 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 4: is to any team. They had lost six in a row, 939 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 4: and they actually won this game very easily in the end. 940 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: This was this basically was a blowout. In that first half, 941 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 4: Yo Kitch, the twenty four to fifteen, the seven assists, 942 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 4: their offense just looked so much better, and it was 943 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: like a release valve I think for Michael Malone there 944 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 4: where he's like, thank God, I've got him back, because 945 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: now we can start to look a little bit more 946 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 4: like the team we hope to be. We'll talk a 947 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: little bit more about Michael Porter Junior later on, because 948 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 4: this is you know, they're still in a bit of 949 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 4: trouble here as far as personnel, but when you have 950 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: Yo Kitch out there playing the way that he did, 951 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 4: making some of those crazy passes again, the Nuggets just 952 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 4: look a much better team much more enjoyable to watch, 953 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 4: so I'll take yo kitch, although I was impressed with 954 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 4: a Vucci baby with the six for six. 955 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Bulls fan Trey Hood. 956 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 2: You got yeah. 957 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 5: I saw a post game that we're calling him Niko 958 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 5: la Valanciunis. 959 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 4: Vucci was shooting the ball. 960 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 5: So last night six ver six from three to thirty points, 961 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 5: fourteen boards, five assists. The Hornets are pretty thin in 962 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 5: the front court. Regardless, they didn't have Plumbley last night. 963 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 5: Nick Richards was running out there, so this seemed like 964 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 5: the game that Vucci really needed to make some sort 965 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 5: of uh impression, and it was great to see he 966 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 5: did because he's really struggled to start the season. Hornets 967 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 5: made a nice run in this one, and the fourth 968 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 5: quarter cut it to single digits. Vucci checks back in, 969 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 5: gets a layup, blocks a shot, hits a three, grabs 970 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 5: a few rebounds. He was really a studying influence for 971 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: them last night. These Bulls Hornets games always fun. For 972 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 5: some reason. The Bulls team last night looked like what 973 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 5: everybody assumed they would be in the preseason. Absolutely zero defense, 974 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 5: but thirty from Vouch, twenty eight from duros and twenty 975 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 5: five from Leavin thirty five assists. 976 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: I love it. 977 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 5: Sometimes you just have to say, we're not playing defense tonight. 978 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 5: It's ball versus ball, one hundred percent offense. We're having fun. 979 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 5: And that's exactly what this was. It's, uh, you know, 980 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 5: Vouch's really had a tough time figuring out where he 981 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 5: fits with this team. But last night he was hitting 982 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 5: the threes, he was hitting from mid range, and he 983 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 5: was finishing inside, Like that's been the biggest concern for me. 984 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 5: The guy's seven feet tall and hasn't been able to 985 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 5: make a layup. He was hitting him last night, not 986 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 5: to mention stepping out. So a great win for the Balls, 987 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 5: but definitely Yokic returning from injury to beat the heat. 988 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 5: That's for sure the most important Nikola moment last night. 989 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 5: Nuggets have been struggling, but they got their MVP back. 990 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: Suddenly they're not struggling. And I also do like how 991 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 5: basically everybody tried to downplay the Brothers thing. Michael Malone said, 992 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 5: they're just here to come to Miami. I know they 993 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 5: came down here every time before COVID. They're just having fun. Obviously, 994 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 5: Jokic didn't want to talk about it either he's like, 995 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 5: that's in the past. Whatever, So it's in the past. 996 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 5: Maybe if they meet up in the finals, something will 997 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 5: go down again. 998 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 2: And also, like Morris was not playing in this game, 999 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: he's actually still out with the neck injury, the stinger 1000 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 2: in his neck there from the push tasks. So maybe 1001 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 2: it's a little different if he's if he's in there, 1002 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 2: because he does not shy away from any confrontation. I 1003 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say, but who do you got 1004 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 2: for the question there? Who is uh? You know had 1005 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: the better game between Joker and Booch. 1006 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: Well, I was very pumped for this game when I 1007 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: saw the the Kic brothers were sitting directly behind the 1008 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: Nuggets bench, great seats. This was a family affair, looking 1009 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: forward to. 1010 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: That, just like our cold open family family. 1011 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: Family, family, family. And then and then I was listening 1012 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: to the Miami Heat broadcast and as always, Eric Reid 1013 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: play by play man, always starts the broadcast off with 1014 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: as soon as the ball is tipped, and here we 1015 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: go on another Miami Heat NBA adventure. 1016 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: You know. 1017 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: It's you know, I can't believe he still does that, 1018 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: but he's still doing it. And then all downhill from 1019 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: there all downhill. It was just not an entertaining game. 1020 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy not in the lineup, as you guys said. And 1021 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: I guess from the Nuggets perspective of getting Yakich back 1022 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: and all that, the Bones Highland game was good. He 1023 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: got the postgame interview, Bones Highland of the Denver Nights, 1024 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: the shooting guard just letting it fly, hit five threes, 1025 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: and the Bones are their dollars. So they need guys 1026 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: like that to chip in while they don't have Jamal 1027 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: Murray and Michael Porter Junior. So I don't know that's 1028 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: where the Jokic MVP a narrative can start. If he 1029 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: can pull this team together the five hundred now, if 1030 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: he can get him up there, because you know there's 1031 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: there's a drop off after the Warriors and the Suns. 1032 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: The Jazz haven't been playing great, and obviously the Lakers 1033 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: haven't been playing great. The Clippers, there's lots of worry 1034 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: there as we're talking about now. So the Nuggets, they 1035 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: could do this. They could do this if Jokic can 1036 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: carry a whole fricking team without the number two and 1037 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: number three. 1038 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, all right, our final one. I'm just 1039 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: gonna ask it right away here TK, just to set 1040 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 2: you up, man, tasty your beef, Sobonas or would what 1041 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: you got? Trey? 1042 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 5: Well, what kind of butcher would I be if I 1043 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 5: didn't let you beat my meat? 1044 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: JD. 1045 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 5: We've got some hungry customers here, so please roll that 1046 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 5: beautiful beef footage. 1047 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 3: Christian Wood had twenty one rebounds, but wait, there's more. 1048 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 3: Demantas Sibonis had twenty five rebounds. That's a lot of 1049 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: roast beef, which is rebounds. 1050 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah better, first big beef of the season for both 1051 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 5: Christian Wood and Demonte Sabonis. That's the first twenty plus 1052 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 5: rebound game of Christian Wood's career. Sabonis had three beefs 1053 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 5: last year, five in his career, but that was a 1054 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 5: career high twenty five boards for him. He added sixteen 1055 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 5: points and ten assists. That's a nice line if you're 1056 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 5: a fantasy basketball player. From a rebound perspective, Sir Bonus, 1057 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 5: much much tastier. A lot of the christian Wood rebounds 1058 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 5: are you are the tallest guy in the court and 1059 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 5: the other nine guys are running back to get back 1060 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 5: on defense. But Woods came in a win. It's a 1061 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 5: little bit more of a milestone. 1062 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: So it just kind of comes down to what are 1063 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 2: you looking for in a cut of meat? 1064 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 1065 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: I thought you were also gonna bring up the uh, 1066 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 2: the one particular small piece of beef that Kevin Porter 1067 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: Junior got that the Rockets basically gave to him to 1068 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 2: get to the triple double. 1069 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 1: Ah. 1070 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed they may for rebounds there in Houston. Yeah, 1071 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: all right, well. 1072 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: Task that was awesome though. We're getting on a deep 1073 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: part of the track there because we had a double 1074 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: deep on the track. 1075 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: What do you think, Tasks? Is it Sir Bonus as 1076 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: Lee calls him, or mister Wood there? 1077 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: Well, I guess the Rockets thing is cool. They're winning 1078 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 1: games now, especially because Christian Wood is they're lone big. 1079 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 1: They've gone away from the two big lineups and they're 1080 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: just playing Christian Wood and so he's got space out 1081 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: there to roam. They're figuring things. I'm a Steven Silas fan. 1082 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: I don't like how he's been pegged as a guy 1083 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 1: on the hot seat as a Houston Rockets head coach. 1084 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: That's a pile of whoy. So I'm glad they're winning games. 1085 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: Lee, finish it off here, Taste your beef in your opinion. 1086 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 2: You watch the highlights, so you're going. 1087 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 4: On, yeah, well that Kevin Porter rebound wasn't really a 1088 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 4: rebound though it was tipped to him. So yeah, touches 1089 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 4: at first, is the rebounder the poker or the grad 1090 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 4: exactly exactly. So I don't want to be that guy, 1091 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 4: but I'm going to be that guy. Take that reband 1092 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 4: off and he doesn't deserve it. But twenty five for 1093 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 4: royalty there in Minnesota last night, the sir sir bonus. Yeah, yeah, 1094 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 4: he finished with a triple double two, I believe. So 1095 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 4: if that helps, if that helps the beef shure, why not? 1096 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I imagine Kevin porter House gets a beef one day. 1097 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: That would be amazing. 1098 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that's good. Well, from one quarter to another, let's 1099 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 2: talk about this in a little more detail. That happened 1100 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: right at the end of yesterday's show. Michael Porter Junior 1101 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 2: is expected to miss the rest of the season due 1102 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 2: to back surgery. Second time a back injury has seriously 1103 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: impacted his career. Here he missed the entire eighteen nineteen 1104 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 2: season while recovering from back surgery. After being selected fourteenth 1105 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: in the draft. Porter last played this year. In remember 1106 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: sixth against the Rockets. I think we even showed that clip, right, 1107 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 2: We remember he had the breakaway dunk possibility and came 1108 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: up way short and then he was grabbing his back there. 1109 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, this sucks. But how concerning is this 1110 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: for Michael Burger Junior and the Nuggets here? What do 1111 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 2: you think? Yeah? 1112 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: You know, I go back and forth. I was extremely 1113 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: worried at first, and then I'm at like a seven 1114 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: out of ten on the worry scale, because the worrisome 1115 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: part is they pursued a non surgical alternative. They looked 1116 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: at it and tried to find another way, but they 1117 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: had to go this route. And I guess the positive 1118 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: is when they gave him this contract that they obviously 1119 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: looked into his medicals and were comfortable at the beginning 1120 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: of this season saying, we don't even have to have 1121 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: an injury clause in there. And then this happens when 1122 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: you look back at the surgery he had when he 1123 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: was in college. He was playing with Missouri, got injured 1124 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: the first game that he played, and then he did 1125 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: return later that season and then had to miss that 1126 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: the first season with the Nuggets. So I guess if 1127 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: you're looking at a positive. When he had that surgery 1128 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 1: with Missouri, went out in the first game, he came 1129 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: back and played in the SEC tournament, So it was 1130 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: like almost similar timelines here. November twenty second, Wikipedia thank 1131 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: You was when he had that surgery, and then he 1132 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: came back on March eighth. So I guess if you're 1133 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 1: positive he could be back. If guess if you're positive, 1134 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: the Nuggets did their research, and you'd think that they 1135 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: would know that his back was sound and that he 1136 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: could be back this year. But I guess it's impossible 1137 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: to really know until he comes back how he's going 1138 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: to look. I guess with the reports though, the fact 1139 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: that there is a scenario that he comes back this year, 1140 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: and every report says that it's not like a year 1141 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: or two years that there is a likeliness that he'll 1142 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 1: be at least, you know, working out in March April 1143 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: and seeing if he could come back. I guess you 1144 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: got to stay positive at this point. 1145 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, what do you think? 1146 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: Oh? 1147 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but horrible news obviously for a young guy 1148 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 4: to have so many back problems early on. He's a 1149 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 4: huge part of what the Nuggets need in terms of 1150 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 4: the offense needs to work on his defense, but they're 1151 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 4: going to miss him, and yeah, you just hope that 1152 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 4: he can recover and get out there and play, because 1153 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 4: he's a very very good offense. He play very good 1154 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 4: score and shooter. But back injuries they just they just 1155 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 4: gross to hear about, because this is something that has 1156 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 4: already affected his early career and if he can't, you know, 1157 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 4: really get on top of it, then he may have 1158 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 4: a shortened you know outlook here in the NBA. So 1159 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 4: just hope he can get back. 1160 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this sort of got lost in the shortened 1161 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week there last week Tray, but the Nuggets are 1162 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 2: running really low on healthy perimeter players because not only 1163 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 2: are they without Jamal Murray, now Michael Porter Junior PJ 1164 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 2: Dojer also sidelined with a long term injury. He suffered 1165 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: an ecl tear last week and he was one of 1166 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: the replacements for Michael Porter Junior, and he was playing 1167 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 2: like twenty minutes a game and he's not a bad player, 1168 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: but he's out. So this is a really really tough 1169 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 2: blow here for the Nuggets and whether you'll can keep 1170 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 2: him in like a playoff position or a fourth, fifth, 1171 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 2: sixth seeds something like that would be amazing. But yeah, 1172 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 2: anything to add to MPJ here. Unfortunately having to going 1173 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: to knife under Knight underneath the knife again, excuse. 1174 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 5: Me, Well, task said that the bones are the Nuggets money, 1175 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 5: and honestly it's kind of true right now there four 1176 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 5: and oh when he bones Highland scores ten or more 1177 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 5: points and they're gonna need him to produce from the perimeter. 1178 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 5: They just need somebody else who can handle the ball, 1179 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 5: especially with Porter gonna be out for the season. But 1180 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 5: I mean, the Nuggets have got to be super worried 1181 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 5: about this. Obviously, losing Porter this season is a huge 1182 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 5: blow to their chances in the first place with Murray 1183 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 5: being out, but his humongous contract doesn't even kick in 1184 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 5: until next year. So you're looking at a guy who 1185 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 5: has missed his rookie season, missed the majority of his 1186 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 5: one college season, and has had two back surgeries before 1187 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 5: you're going to be paying him thirty million dollars. That 1188 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 5: is nerve racking, no doubt about it. Hopefully he recovers 1189 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 5: and hopefully he's able to put something together and at 1190 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 5: least get back on the court working out, getting ready 1191 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 5: to get ready for next season. 1192 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I saw a tweet from Nuggets Nation that 1193 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 2: I just wanted to reiterate here. You know a lot 1194 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 2: of people yesterday making the joke, especially on Twitter, lely 1195 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 2: like oh, Porter Junior, he got his money, then he dipped, 1196 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, like it's not really all that funny. And 1197 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 2: the guy is having unplanned surgery. This is not calling 1198 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 2: in sick because you have a sore throat, as Against 1199 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: Nation wrote, you know, this is he's going under the knife. 1200 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 2: What to miswork Like he's like, oh, I got paid, 1201 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 2: let's go get back story, Like come on, this is 1202 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: just really really unfortunate and hopefully he's young enough and 1203 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 2: can get back out there again and played like he 1204 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: did at the end of last season into the playoffs 1205 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. Uh go go ahead? 1206 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 4: Oh I no, just yeah. I mean like that's the 1207 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 4: stupidity of Twitter though. I mean, as if a guy's 1208 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 4: just gonna say, yeah, sweet, I've got paid. Now you 1209 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 4: can do some surgery in my back. I mean, of 1210 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 4: all the injury, of all the injuries, I think back 1211 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: would be the top of the ones you don't want 1212 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 4: to have. I think you take an ACL injury over 1213 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 4: a back injury because it can be just so debilitating 1214 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: for everything you do. So, yeah, it's Twitter. 1215 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 2: In other NBA news, this is a little surprising. Knicks 1216 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 2: coach Tom Thibodeaux told reporters on Monday that Kemba Walker 1217 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 2: is no longer a part of the team's rotation. Quote 1218 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: as of right now end quote. Alec Burks Alec who 1219 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 2: started Saturday against Atlanta in the second of a back 1220 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 2: to back situation. There he will remain the starter. More 1221 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 2: from Tibbs Hereies said quote, It's a tough decision to make, 1222 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: but you always have to do what you think is 1223 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: best for the team. So again, this is not Tibbs 1224 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 2: Trey saying Kemba's out of the starting lineup. Coming off 1225 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: the bench, he was saying he is out of the rotation. 1226 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't know whether that means he's gonna dress or not. 1227 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Kemba is. But were you shocked by 1228 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: Tibbs saying especially that part. Not that you're just out 1229 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 2: at starting lineup because we've been struggling, but you're not 1230 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: even in the rotation one. 1231 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 5: Hundred percent, Skates, I'm totally shocked by this one. Tom 1232 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 5: Thibodeau started Keith Bogan's eighty two games a year, would 1233 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 5: only play him like the first six minutes of the 1234 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 5: half before pulling him. Tims is very much if it 1235 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 5: ain't broke, don't fix it kind of coach. But Knick's 1236 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,959 Speaker 5: starting lineup has been broke. It just kind of felt 1237 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 5: like they wouldn't make a change because the two players 1238 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 5: you would think would be making a move, whether it 1239 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 5: be Kemba Walker or Evan Forney, both were their big 1240 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 5: offseason acquisitions. And it kind of seems like maybe the 1241 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 5: reason Kemba is going to the bench is because his 1242 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 5: contract is a little bit smaller than Fournier's. Weird stuff, 1243 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 5: But I mean, when you look at the disparity between 1244 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 5: the Knicks starting lineup and the Knicks bench, you can 1245 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 5: see that a change needs to be made. The Knicks 1246 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 5: are getting lit up defensively when the starters are out there, 1247 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 5: and it's basically because they have no resistance at the 1248 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 5: point of attack. So maybe bringing Alec Burks in a 1249 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 5: little bit bigger defender, a little bit switchier, perhaps that helps. 1250 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 5: Because the offense that Kemba Walker would theoretically bring, he 1251 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 5: hasn't really brought it this year. He's been turning the 1252 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 5: ball over quite a bit. He's been cutting into Julius 1253 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 5: Randalls handles time. So yeah, to me, shocking that Tibbs 1254 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 5: actually made the change. A change was needed, but Tibbs, 1255 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 5: it seems like, would want to not rock the boat, 1256 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 5: and he usually defers to the veteran players. You see 1257 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 5: when he's talking about Kemba He's like, this guy is 1258 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 5: a great person. I want to say that first and foremost. 1259 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 5: That's how you know a player is really struggling. It's 1260 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 5: not surprising that he would want to go for more defense. 1261 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 5: But I mean, twenty two games into Kemba Walker's career, 1262 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 5: they're saying, you're not playing for our team anymore. That's 1263 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 5: wild to me. Going for him worth the gamble, but 1264 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 5: not looking like it's paying off at this point. 1265 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Teas, what did you think of this? You know, 1266 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: this report, not really report. TIB's telling us this is 1267 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: the way it's going to be. 1268 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: What do you think people can change? I guess I'm surprising. Look, 1269 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: the Keith Bogan's example is a good win. Last year, 1270 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: they stuck with Alfred Peyton in that lineup at the 1271 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: starting lineup over and over and over and over and 1272 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: over until the playoffs when they needed desperately to have 1273 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: some offense out there, so they inserted Derrick Rose. Tibbs 1274 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: loves his Vets, but a quarterway through the season he 1275 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: saw what Alec Burks was able to do. On the 1276 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: weekend in Atlanta. It was a really good win, probably 1277 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 1: the knicks best win, destroying the Hawks with a sick 1278 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: six point guard out there and Alec Burks, who you know, 1279 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: I've always liked. This is year eleven for him. He's 1280 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: been around for a long time. He had eight years 1281 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: with Utah and then he kind of bounced around a 1282 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit, got traded to the Calves and couldn't find 1283 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: his way. So it's good for him. It's good for 1284 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: the Knicks that if Alec Burks, you know, is able 1285 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: to jump into the starting lineup, that you know, one 1286 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: of those big contracts that they handed out in the 1287 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: offseason is going to work out. Because the Evan Fournier 1288 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: one not looking too great. The Newlands Noel one man, 1289 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: it's a little much for a backup big, but they 1290 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: are looking for a guy who can switch and play 1291 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: defense because yeah, Kemba just hasn't been doing enough on 1292 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: either end to keep him out there on the floor. 1293 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 1: They thought coming into the season, all right, you know, 1294 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: our back court's going to be entirely different with Kemba 1295 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: Walker and Evan Fournier over Peyton and Reggie Bullock, but 1296 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,959 Speaker 1: often should be better. Well, that ain't happening with Kemba 1297 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Walker out there. Their defense has gotten a heck of 1298 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,959 Speaker 1: a lot worse, as our man Fred Katz has out 1299 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: lined on the Athletic Their You know, their defense with 1300 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Keimba Walker on the floor would be the worst defense 1301 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: in the NBA, but without him it would be the 1302 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 1: best defense in the NBA. So good for TIBs, I guess, 1303 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: willing to try something. It is strange that Kemba's gone 1304 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: from the rotation. Yeah, that's the party in rows or 1305 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: the backup guards. 1306 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. And he even said like, I don't you know, 1307 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: I won't be playing three smaller guards together. You know, 1308 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: he was basically like addressing that before the question could 1309 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 2: be asked, like, well, why wouldn't you just take kem 1310 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 2: back out of the starting lineup and maybe plug him 1311 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 2: in as a sixth seventh man stuff like that, like 1312 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 2: a little instant offense. And he's like, I don't I 1313 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 2: don't want to be playing him with quickly, and Derek 1314 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Rose out there and he's saying, those guys are deserving 1315 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 2: the minutes, and I think they are lee So it 1316 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: is wild that he's going from starting to like completely 1317 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 2: have a rotation. 1318 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think with Tibbs, it's not like, well, 1319 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 4: you never get another opportunity, but I think for right now, 1320 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 4: because we've seen the Knicks are a better team on 1321 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 4: the road and their reserves have had a better sort 1322 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 4: of plus minus than they startup. So Tibbs had to 1323 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: do something, and kem Back kind of was in the 1324 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 4: firing line because defensively, his is just too small and 1325 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 4: he can get exploited. And I think, as Tats says 1326 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 4: there with our friend fast Freddy Katz's article on the Knicks, 1327 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 4: that game in Atlanta where Kember didn't play, almost like 1328 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 4: cost him because it was like, well, Burke's is bigger, taller, 1329 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 4: a little bit more athletic. He can defend better, they 1330 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 4: can switch better with him, and you just can't be 1331 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 4: exploited as much when Kember's out on the floor. So 1332 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: you know that's TIBs kind of had to say, all right, well, 1333 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 4: unfortunately you're the one who's getting getting us roasted out there. 1334 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna have to put you on the bench 1335 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 4: for now. But he'll get another chance at some point. 1336 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 4: It's just might. He might be on the sidelines here 1337 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 4: for a few games or even a few weeks. 1338 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And who knows what his you know, his knees 1339 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 2: have to do with all of this, and you know 1340 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 2: he's obviously suffered from injury over the last little bit. 1341 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, And maybe the whole thing, like it 1342 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 2: would be weird you out of character. I feel like 1343 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 2: for Kember, for if Tis had gone to him and said, 1344 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 2: we're going to take out the string lineup, but we'll 1345 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 2: have you coming off the bench for X amount of 1346 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 2: men's game, and for Ken to say no to that, like, 1347 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, like almost like a John Wall situation in Houston, 1348 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: like I'm either starting or I'm not. I just don't 1349 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 2: see that being the case. But maybe we don't know 1350 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: the whole story with this. But Tims was telling us 1351 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 2: he's out for now. Those were his exact words. And 1352 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back, 1353 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Lee's got two tweets of the night. As he teased earlier, 1354 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: we've got pick him results. So I'm none too happy 1355 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 2: about him, and we'll set you up for tonight's Warriors 1356 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Suns games. Don't go anywhere. Okay, let's get to tweet 1357 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: of the night. 1358 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Just go. 1359 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 6: It's not working for him. It is seems to be 1360 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 6: back here. It is tweet of the night. 1361 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Tweet of the night. 1362 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Wow, we're just listening to other music while we're doing 1363 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:52,919 Speaker 2: this show. 1364 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 6: The pretty much yeah, pretty much task set off my Alexis. 1365 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 6: So it was playing yesterday, so I was very confusing. 1366 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, well Lee, what do you got from? 1367 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 4: Well, I've just got a tweet to start with, and 1368 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 4: it came from Dane Moore, who covers the Minnesota Timberwolves. 1369 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 4: There for blue wire pods. After the game last night, 1370 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards flip phone just rang. During his post game 1371 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 4: press conference, he answered it. Asked if he has a 1372 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 4: flip flone, he said, yeah, that's my baby. I mean, 1373 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards with a flip phone. Would he have even 1374 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 4: been born when the last flip floanes went out of rotation? 1375 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 1376 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 4: I just thought that was hilarious and then he owned it, 1377 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 4: so good on him for that. Now, I teach you 1378 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 4: because I said I had a second tweet because this 1379 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 4: is actually also from Daye Moore and it's from earlier 1380 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 4: in the season, because I had this in the chamber 1381 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 4: but I didn't actually get to use it and got 1382 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 4: bumped one night, and here it is. Patrick Beverly's routine 1383 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 4: after the national Anthem included screaming fake gunshots and smacking 1384 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Glenn Taylor on the but. 1385 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 2: Hard you've just been sitting on that one. 1386 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was was it was in the train because 1387 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 4: I thought it was funny, and then I can't remember 1388 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 4: why I got bumped. And then I saw Dane had 1389 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 4: another good tweet, and I thought, all right, there's a 1390 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 4: time to shoehorn it him. So great stuff. I could 1391 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 4: just imagine. You can just see Patrick Beverley, can't you 1392 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 4: like all energy? Yeah, wax the owner on the bum 1393 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 4: and then he just like. 1394 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 2: I thought your second clear was going to be like 1395 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 2: a follow up to more Anthony Edwards gold from his 1396 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 2: press conferences. But yeah, you really, yes. 1397 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 4: I mean like, I just can't imagine a young person 1398 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 4: these days with a flip phone. 1399 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 2: They had. They're sort of coming back in star. I'm 1400 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: assuming it's a new expensive one. 1401 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 4: H Yeah, I guess, I guess in that sense they are, 1402 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 4: but it just seems when you say flip phone, you 1403 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 4: think of like, you know, two thousand and three or something, 1404 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 4: when someone's got those. 1405 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Did you used to leave your flip phone at home 1406 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 2: when you would go out for Waksna? 1407 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 4: No, I don't think I ever she had a flip phone. 1408 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 4: Oh I was a big nokier man, but not the 1409 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 4: not the flippy. 1410 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Okay task, Did you have a flip phone or No? 1411 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 1: No, I never did. I mean the razors were cool, 1412 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: those those hot pink razors were super nice. But why 1413 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 1: would you have a flip phone? 1414 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 2: You know, of course smaller? Yeah, yeah, yeah I had. 1415 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 5: I think I had a qual com if I'm not mistaken, 1416 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 5: Uh not that I'll hold the candle to the sidekick though, 1417 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 5: still the greatest phone that's ever been invented, Almost like 1418 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 5: a flip phone, right and then you flip it back down. 1419 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 5: Still the coolest. Those are going to come back eventually, 1420 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 5: just wait. 1421 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure? All right? Good stuff there from Lely 1422 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 2: with two tweets of the night, one from the past, 1423 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 2: and one last night pick of results Man thunder Rockets 1424 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 2: game Houston was favored by two and a half. This 1425 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 2: is brought to you by MGM. Of course I say, 1426 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 2: oh man, because I needed it. I needed a victory. 1427 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 2: I needed to cover at least from Okac. Task went 1428 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 2: with the Thunder as well, and they got They got 1429 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 2: crushed this. They were missing a lot of guys, a 1430 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 2: lot of their big guys at least, and they just 1431 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 2: couldn't score at all. And I'm not really sure it 1432 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: was the Rockets defense. It was more than the Thunder 1433 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 2: could not put the ball through the hoop. But Houston 1434 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: wins their third straight. Trey gets the victory and he 1435 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 2: wraps up not finishing last in the month of November. 1436 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 2: That will go to me once again. So I now, oh, 1437 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm back to owing three pick on payoffs. I owed 1438 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 2: three pick on payoffs. I waxed my nosehairs, got down 1439 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: to two, but now I'm back to three. So a 1440 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 2: lot of these we have things in mind, but they'll 1441 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 2: play much funnier if we're in person together, and hopefully 1442 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 2: we're getting closer and closer to that. So there's a 1443 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 2: couple chambered here that we're gonna be doing. Don't worry, 1444 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 2: I'll pay them off. I'm like a lanister. I always 1445 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 2: pay off my pick'ems, but sucks that I'm at three. Anyway, Lee, 1446 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 2: you also picked up the victory, so we don't need 1447 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 2: to pick tonight because November's over. Let's just enjoy this 1448 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 2: game tonight task this Warriors Suns game. Now, it's a 1449 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 2: ten o'clock start. You can be taking a power nap 1450 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 2: today so you can be watching this one live. You're 1451 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 2: gonna watch the first half, watch the second half of 1452 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: the morning. What's your play on here heading into tonight's test, M. 1453 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 1: I always play it by feet. I live in the moment, 1454 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 1: So I don't know, not gonna nap and that's definitely 1455 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: not not not I don't do that. But uh yeah, 1456 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I can't can't mess with the night's sleep. But we'll see, 1457 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: We'll see what I do. I am just looking forward 1458 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: to this game and maybe, as you said, yeah, that 1459 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: pick and payoffs way better in person. Should we pull 1460 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: off Patrick Beverley just a real hard smack smack. 1461 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I'm fine with it. I just want 1462 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: to get them done with. You got big old farmer hair. 1463 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to think he's got them as 1464 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 4: energetic slap out. 1465 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 2: There between two three. 1466 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 4: No, Well, yeah, it doesn't have to be one of us. 1467 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 2: Just laugh just someone at that. You saw me throw 1468 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 2: ice cubes ice chest. I mean, I'll whip it. I'll 1469 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 2: wa you know who flap myself in the as. 1470 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 4: I want Rick kamlt To slap you on that button. 1471 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 4: I've been hit. I have a nice old slap with 1472 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 4: last skeats. 1473 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 2: My man, whack and let my pick them payoff to 1474 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 2: be Rick Hamlas slapping. Absolutely, we've done dumber ones. 1475 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ricky, how you doing? 1476 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 2: My man? 1477 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 4: What's up? 1478 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: Good? Ricky? Listen? I got a little tough fight to ask. 1479 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 4: Just wondering if you wouldn't mind giving out skeetz, if 1480 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 4: you would slap on the butt. 1481 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 2: You got it, my man, you got it. 1482 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 4: He wouldn't ask why, like he just said, yep, let's 1483 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 4: do it all right. 1484 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. People are saying shock would be a rough one 1485 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 2: to take knock me over. Okay, anyway, if you have 1486 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 2: other ideas, let us know in the stream team, let 1487 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 2: us know in the YouTube comments. I do have a 1488 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 2: couple of these to pay off. 1489 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 5: J D. 1490 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 2: I do really want to do uh the shot callar 1491 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 2: we're doing the shot collar. I said you did some 1492 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 2: research on it. 1493 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 6: I lied, I was totally lied about Theresa. 1494 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 5: That was just for. 1495 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't think anything that's happen. Yeah, a little dog 1496 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,639 Speaker 2: shot collar and JD can operate it while I'm trying 1497 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 2: to do a show with you. Guys. See, that's one 1498 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 2: that will be way funny in personally. 1499 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 6: We got to give it to a child like somebody 1500 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 6: would reckless abandoned Rick Campbell. 1501 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 2: We really don't. We don't have to do that in fact, 1502 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 2: but okay, yeah, maybe we'll get We'll get Jackson R. 1503 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Lincoln to man, you don't want Lincoln, you do not want? 1504 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh my, just do it twenty four to seven. 1505 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Yep, he just hold his. 1506 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Creating psychos over there. 1507 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 5: What do you do it? 1508 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 6: I know they're born now, I don't know. 1509 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 2: All right, So a bunch of payoffs to uh to 1510 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 2: come in the coming months. Don't worry, I'll lose another 1511 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 2: month when we get into December. Here just predictions for tonight, though, guys. 1512 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 2: Let's get him on record. Warrior Sons eighteen and two 1513 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 2: Golden State versus the seventeen and three Phoenix Suns. Phoenix 1514 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: has won sixteenth straight. Let's not forget about that. Who 1515 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 2: you got Lee Warriors? 1516 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, tasks quadruprol Overtime Warriors TK. 1517 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 2: I hate to say it after these guys, but it's 1518 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 2: gonna be Warriors. Oh, I think you guys are wrong, 1519 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 2: which means I'm thinking the Phoenix Suns. I don't even 1520 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 2: know what the line is on this test. Did you 1521 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 2: haven't see it? 1522 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 4: Suns are probably they. 1523 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 2: Won sixteen Yeah in New York. Did you think there's 1524 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,719 Speaker 2: reports of them saying like we own New York, saying 1525 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 2: after beating the Knicks and the nets and all that 1526 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 2: they're feeling good. Give me Phoenix. I think Phoenix is 1527 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 2: gonna win tonight. It looks like two and a half points. 1528 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 5: The Suns are favored by two and a half on 1529 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 5: bed EDGM right now. 1530 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting because they play tonight and then they 1531 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 2: play what on Friday in the banksday Thursday or Friday 1532 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 2: in the Bank. Yeah, okay, all right, Well there's only 1533 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 2: five games on in total, so hopefully you get some 1534 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 2: really close ones to really break down in detail on 1535 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow show Got Knicks, Nets, Grizzlies, Raptors, task you know 1536 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 2: what that is? 1537 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: The what's it called? 1538 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 2: May Smith cuff? American guy Tassie. You forgot about the 1539 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 2: niece Smith Cuff and then more of your son's Pistons, 1540 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 2: Blazers and Lakers Kings. Actually a lot of late games 1541 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 2: on tonight, but we'll be back tomorrow to break them 1542 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 2: all down. Email us your questions probably get to Beach 1543 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 2: Step in either tomorrow or Thursday, so send in your 1544 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 2: NBA or your non NBA questions to No Dunks at 1545 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com. You can hit us up on 1546 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: Twitter at No dunk Sinc. Or you can always drop 1547 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 2: your questions in the comments below the YouTube vid. And finally, 1548 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 2: go grab yourself an athletic subscription. Go to the Athletic 1549 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 2: dot com slash No Dunks. All right, boys, fun show. 1550 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 2: We will see you guys soon. Till then, Clipper bros. 1551 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1552 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,679 Speaker 5: love you guys awesome. 1553 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember listen to No Ducks. 1554 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: It slaps. 1555 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Praise the day people you. 1556 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:06,879 Speaker 6: Say every day and that you happy every minute. 1557 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 2: It's been so long that you're the fun of waiting for. 1558 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 5: It's happened already. 1559 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be gravy