1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition, the 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Pate. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: We are wall to wall as we always are. It 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: is a mail bag edition after all. If you want 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: to submit questions, well, for this particular episode, you needed 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: to be on Twitter last night at Late Kick Josh. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to be part 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: of the secret Friday night, can't tell management about it. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't listen to the podcast gambling chat. It's 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Instagram Live and I do it this way for a reason. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I know some of you aren't on every platform. I 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: would encourage you just start a little burner account, just 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: if nothing more so you can participate in this. We've 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun the past two weeks with that. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: What I'm doing with that is I have a model. 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: As you know, we've got to run on every single game. 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I hand out a few via the Rama Noodle Express 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: for those of you who are new. Those are our 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: official bets for the week. I've got a couple more 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: coming tonight by the way, if you're going to watch 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live. But obviously there are dozens more games 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: out there that I don't get to touch on during 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: the week. I do the big game breakdowns. I let 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: you know where I lean on the ram Noodle Express games, 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: but still ninety percent of the games we don't get 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: to touch on. That's what that Friday night chat is for. 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: It's on Instagram Live and as you can tell, it's live, 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: and I'm usually in a hotel room like this Friday. 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: I'll fly into Pittsburgh Friday night, I'll get into a 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: hotel and I will then turn that thing on. I 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: usually let you know about thirty minutes beforehand. I'll let 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: you know on Twitter, I'll let you know on Instagram Story, 33 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: and so you can be checking for that. It's usually late, 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: it's around midnight on the East Coast. But the last 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: thing in my experience way back in the day when 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I used to like bet the whole board. First off, 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: don't do that. But secondly, the last thing I would 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: be doing on a Friday night before I went to 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: bed is I'd be checking lines. I know a lot 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: of you guys are doing that, and if not, it's 41 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: the first thing you're gonna do Saturday morning. So you 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: can watch this replay. But what I'm trying to do 43 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: is give you a chance in that live chat to 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: ask about games, and if I've got or rather if 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: the model has a lien on the game, I'll let 46 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: you know. Most of the time the model is right 47 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: on the number, because most of the time we agree 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: with the number. To give you a very quick thirty 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: second synopsis of how I choose the games we bet on. 50 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: As soon as the lines are released on Sunday. Let's say, 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: for sake of argument, fifty lines are released right off 52 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: the bat, I can tell you thirty five of them 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: I just push off the table because the Vegas number 54 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: mirrors virtually what our number is, and so within moments 55 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: of the lines releasing on Sunday, I have filtered it 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: down to about fifteen games that are worth keeping an 57 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: eye on. From there, we run it through a finer 58 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: set of model filters. Then we start inserting anything manual, 59 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: any upgrades or down grades for injury, and even then 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: we're probably going to push another three or four off 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: the table, so it ends up by the time the 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: sun goes down on Sunday evening. Out of fifty games, 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: if they've been released, I probably have anywhere from eight 64 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: to twelve that I'm even willing to consider betting that week. 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: That is the wise approach, by the way, Now, obviously 66 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: something drastic could change during the week, but by in 67 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: law charge, that is the sample size. That's the pool 68 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: with which we're working from. Now. I don't always bet 69 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: all of them. So some nights, like for instance, in 70 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: week one, we did not bet Texas officially, but a 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of you asked, what about Texas Louisiana And I 72 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: told you the model loves Texas. Some of you ran 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: with that, some of you won money. Maybe that's anecdotal, 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good strategy. Anyway, this is not what 75 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: this podcast is about. I just wanted to remind you 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: we're doing that. I'm doing that. It's at late kick 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: Josh on Instagram, and I hope to see you there 78 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: on Friday night. I will be live from Pittsburgh. Friday 79 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Night Lines is what we're calling it. Live from Pittsburgh, 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: and it sounds grandiose, but it's really just me in 81 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: some dark corner in a hotel room. Okay, we got 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: a really full mail bag, so let's dive in. A 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: number of you asked about the JP pole and I 84 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: got to be honest with you guys, as I always 85 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: try and be I almost don't release this, like I 86 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: didn't do it last year. I did not even release 87 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the JP pole last year. The JP Pole For those unfamiliar, 88 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: all it is is my power ratings, and to put 89 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: a finer point on it, all it is is me 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: asking our model to spit out power ratings. To me, 91 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: there is no gut, there's no feeling, there's no emotion 92 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: in it. It is just raw power rating. It's no 93 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: different than if I were running a sports book. The 94 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: numbers I would be working off to set our lines 95 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: would be based off of these power ratings. That's it. 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: The reason I hesitate in releasing it is because that 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: context is lost on so many people. They don't understand 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: the difference between a ranking and a power rating. Well, 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: let me tell you the difference. The University of Iowa 100 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: is the difference if I were ranking Iowa, if I 101 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: had an AP vote, or let's say I was on 102 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: the college football playoff committee, I'd have Iowa way up 103 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: in my top ten right now, because they've got probably 104 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: the most impressive resume, don't they. I mean, they've beaten Indiana, 105 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: they went on the road and beat Iowa State, And 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter for merit purposes, It doesn't matter 107 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: if it was a bunch of turnovers that caused it. 108 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: They forced the turnovers, they won the game, So I'd 109 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: be extremely high on Iowa. I am high on Iowa 110 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: from a merit based perspective. You got to understand in 111 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: a power rating world, none of that matters. None of it. 112 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: If you ran a sports book and you knew what 113 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: you were doing, if you were generating your own model numbers, 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: none of that matters. The problem with any kind of 115 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: model that is forward thinking, that is predictive in nature, 116 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: that is trying to see around the corner instead of 117 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: seeing in the review mirror, is they're not going to 118 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: value teams that have disproportionately benefited from points off turnovers. 119 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: And the reason is not because they're not worth anything, 120 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: but if we're strictly looking forward, that is a horrifically 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: flawed way of trying to predict what a team will 122 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: be down the road. Because there's so much variance and 123 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: random nature of turnovers, even the teams that are good 124 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: at forcing them, you cannot count on it week over week. 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: So right now you've got a situation where Iowa is 126 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: ranked in the ap AS they should be over several 127 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: teams that would be favored against Iowa if they played 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: on a neutral field. Well, the JP pull is the latter. 129 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: It is a power rating, and so I'm putting Iowa 130 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: no higher than above the amount of teams that I 131 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: would favor them against on a neutral field. So a 132 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of you asked about that Iowa was the most 133 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: glaring example this week, and so many people got been 134 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: out of shape. And there's no reason too, because once 135 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I provide the context, there's not even a whole lot 136 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: of opinion involved. I can tell you right now. I 137 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: had an odds maker buddy I reached out to just 138 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I wasn't insane. He said, no, I've 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: actually got Iowa at sixteen. This is a guy, by 140 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: the way, who sets numbers for a living, and I 141 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: think S and P plus with Connolly has them lower 142 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: than I do as well. So if anything, I think 143 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I've overrated Iowa, haven't. I know I haven't overrated him. 144 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: I think I have him right. But let's just let's 145 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: just breathe for a second. We're not even a month 146 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: into the season. Plus this stuff doesn't matter. It's my poll, 147 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: and even I'm telling you. It doesn't matter. It's not 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: like it's going to impact a game. It's just a 149 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: fun little exercise. But I almost hesitate to put him 150 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: out because it's not really fun to just have the 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: same people say the same thing every week. And what 152 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 1: it looks like, this is what I really want to avoid. 153 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: What it looks like for the untrained eye is I'm 154 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: trying to hot take you. And you guys who listen 155 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: to this show or who watched the show, know that 156 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: is the absolute last approach you'll ever see me take 157 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: to try and garner any kind of attention. I just assume, 158 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: retire and go drive a street sweeper truck for the 159 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Columbus municipal government. Before I started doing the hot take stuff. 160 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: And I don't say that as a slight, there were 161 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: two things, three things really that fascinated me as a kid. 162 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Little JP was of course fascinated by trains. Fully grown 163 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: JP still is. I was fascinated by I'm going to 164 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: save that one. I'm going to save the second one 165 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: for last. I was fascinated by street sweepers, you know, 166 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: the things with the big brooms on them, the trucks. 167 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Those things fascinated me. I mean, I would have my grandma, 168 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: who I stayed with after school for a few hours 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. We would get in her buick and 170 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: we would go around the neighborhood and we would find 171 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the street sweeper truck and we would just follow the 172 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: street sweeper truck. We would also go down to the 173 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: rail yard, which is downtown in Columbus. She lived in 174 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Phoenix City, just across the river, so we would drive 175 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: over into Columbus and she would go let me watch 176 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the trains. Columbus is in Norfolk Southern Town, not CSX, 177 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: not BNSF. It is Norfolk Southern Territory. But the third 178 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: one was garbage trucks. I don't think I've revealed this publicly. 179 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Some of you who are closer to me know this. 180 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: It's not a secret. I'm not even ashamed of it. 181 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm halfway proud of it. When I was a kid, 182 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: I was fascinating with garbage trucks, so much so that 183 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: we would hang out at the top of my neighborhood 184 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: every summer on Tuesday morning and we would wait for 185 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: the garbage truck to come down Forts and Road and 186 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: turn into my neighborhood. And the thing about Harris County 187 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: is we still have prisoners who collect trash on the 188 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: back of the truck. It's not city workers, it's inmates 189 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: on the back. It's a trustee in the cab driving. 190 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Now these days there's a big sign on the side 191 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: of all the trucks that says it's illegal for you 192 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: to talk to the prisoners. Well, back in the day 193 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: that sign did not exist. It was a free for all. 194 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: So me and four or five buddies on bikes would 195 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: follow the garbage truck around a very hilly neighborhood by 196 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: the way. It's challenging, built up some big quads and 197 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: glutes every Tuesday, but we would assist prisoners, actual prisoners, 198 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: US kids would assist them in loading garbage into the 199 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: back of the truck. It was the highlight of our week. 200 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: We would always have our parents make them stuff. We 201 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: would give the prisoners a platter of food. Again, none 202 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: of this is legal, it's not even remotely legal. But 203 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: it's the wild West back then in Harris County. And 204 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: so that was the third thing. Those are the things 205 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: that fascinated me when I was a kid, and I 206 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: got to be honest with you, that took about two 207 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: and a half minutes. I have no clue how we 208 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: got there. I'm not even going to go back and 209 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: replay it for my own memory's sake. I am just 210 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: going to tell you, finally before we dive back into 211 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: college football, one of my favorite Christmas presents of all time. 212 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: You'll know I'm not lying, because there's no way anyone 213 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: would think to make this up. Was one of the 214 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: older ladies that went to church with us made me 215 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: a full prisoner outfit. She made me an orange vest. 216 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: She made me white pants with a stripe down the side, 217 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: identical to the uniforms of the prisoners wore in Harris County. 218 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: On the back of the truck, this might as well 219 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: have been Gucci. This might as well have been versace 220 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: or verse h as we would call it in Harris County. 221 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Highlight of my childhood, easily highlight of that year. So yeah, 222 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: that's a little glimpse into my childhood. How about you, 223 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: what did you do for fun when you were a kid. 224 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: We make some college football in there too, though. All right, 225 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: let's roll on. This is so indicting. Let's roll on. 226 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: Here's a question about this weekend's Michigan State Miami game 227 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: and There was also another question from Jimmy. What are 228 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: the two games you're looking forward to the most this weekend? 229 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: So let me hit Jimmy's right there. The one I'm 230 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: going to, Penn State Auburn is going to be phenomenal. 231 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: That's one. Obviously Alabama at Florida is one, but let's 232 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: push those off to the side. What are some other games, well, Jimmy, 233 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: one of them is Michigan State at Miami. Miami is 234 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: favored by six and a half. Here our buddy Brandon 235 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Champion also asked, Hey, how about a breakdown on this game? 236 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: So I'm hitting like five questions at once. This game, 237 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: to me is going to have my attention. It's an 238 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: early kickoff, it's a noon kickoff, and Miami's favored by 239 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: six and a half for seven, and I just don't know, 240 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: even with home field factor it in there, if you 241 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: just watched the team's play, you didn't know anything from 242 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: a preseason magazine, You don't know anything about the past 243 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: or what these teams are supposed to be. If you've 244 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: just watched them play, would you think that, because I 245 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know that you would. But then there's that factor 246 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind that. Well, if Michigan 247 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: State would have had to play Alabama in Atlanta in 248 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Week one, it's Michigan State who would have had big 249 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: fat l put on their resume, and all of a sudden, 250 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: you'd be thinking a lot less of them. No, I 251 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: don't think that's where my head's at, to be honest 252 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: with you, I didn't think Miami looked terrible against Alabama. 253 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: I just thought Alabama was VAMA that day. I actually 254 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: told you on a show after that game, I thought 255 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Derek King played okay. I thought he played good enough 256 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: to beat a lot of highly ranked teams. So I'm 257 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: considering all that. I just don't know that Miami's that 258 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: much better right now than Michigan State. Now, what Michigan 259 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: State has not seen is any kind of disruptive defensive 260 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: front yet. But if you look at the lines of 261 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: scrimmage and totality, that's always where I like to go. 262 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: If there's no discernible edge all over the place, I 263 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: like to go to lines of scrimmage. I just don't 264 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: think Miami's got a massive line of scrimmage edge. Not 265 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: talking about former recruiting rankings here, I'm talking about the 266 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: product on the field. How have they played if you 267 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: did not know anything about the talent level and all 268 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: you had to go on was the product on the field. 269 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: It is a huge game for both programs. For Manny Diaz, 270 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: make no mistake, I don't care if it's a non 271 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: conference game. It's a must win game for them. You 272 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: lose this game, you're one and two, your only win 273 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: was narrow over app State, you start losing a ton 274 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: of juice. I mean, you start losing a ton of it. However, 275 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: if you win, then you're bolstered going into conference play. 276 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: I think they have Virginia next up, so it's big. 277 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: It's a really big turning point for them. What if 278 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: Michigan State were to get this win, though, remember how 279 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: it felt last year when they out of nowhere seemingly 280 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: beat Michigan. That would be this feeling, and they'd go 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: on the road down south to do it. I mean, 282 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: that'd be a big feather in the cap of Meltucker. 283 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: So that's one I'm looking forward to, Jimmy. Another one 284 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: that's off that prime radar is Virginia Tech at West Virginia. 285 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: That is also a new and eastern time kickoff. And 286 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you a lot of you hit me up 287 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: and you said you had Virginia Tech rated too low. 288 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I did not have Virginia Tech in our top twenty five. 289 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: By the way, they were at twenty six. I think 290 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: they were right there on the cusp, but you can't 291 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: tell because I don't list things past twenty five. You 292 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: guys may be right about that. The same model that 293 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about bashing for not ranking Virginia Tech also 294 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: told me Virginia Tech's one of our plays of the week. 295 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: We think they're going to beat West Virginia, and so 296 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: if they do, I think it stands to reason you'd 297 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: probably see them in next week's JP pull. But justin Flente, 298 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: what a story here. Remember, towards the end of last year, 299 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: it looked like, for all intents and purposes, he was 300 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a dead man walking. Previously everyone thought, oh, it's a 301 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: COVID year, no one's gonna get fired. But then that 302 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: started to evaporate like fog in the late morning hours, 303 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: and then well, everybody's job was on the line. And 304 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Justin Flentin and Virginia Tech were bad, to put not 305 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: too fine a point on it, towards the middle of 306 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: the season, and they were lifeless. You guys, remember what 307 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: they looked like, right, They were lifeless. They were a 308 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: ship without a rudder, or a ship without a sale, 309 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: or any number of nautical metaphors would fit the way 310 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: to describe Virginia Tech at that point. But then a 311 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: funny thing happened. They beat Virginia handedly to end the year, 312 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: and then they open up twenty twenty one and they 313 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: beat North Carolina. If they go on the oh and 314 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: they win this game outright, which we think they're going to. 315 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: How are we viewing justin Flinte? How is Virginia Tech 316 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: fan viewing justin Fuinte at that point? This game is 317 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: so weird because you only get twelve of them a year. 318 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: It's not Major League Baseball. You don't have time to 319 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: go on a five and sixteen stretch but still make 320 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. You don't have a team that gets hot 321 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: and goes nine to one but still misses the playoff. 322 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: In this sport, you can't do that. I mean, one 323 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: game at a time really does mean one game at 324 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: a time, But they are only twelve of them, and 325 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: so your feelings can change radically. Jimmy, that game's worth watching. 326 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of them like that. 327 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Let me quickly run down this slate, and I'm not 328 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna list every single game, but just others that I'm 329 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on. Kent State is at Iowa. This 330 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: is one to keep an eye on, not because I 331 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: expect an upset, but remember the Hawkeys have disproportionately benefited 332 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: off turnovers. This is not an explosive offense, It's an 333 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: opportunistic team. Question becomes how much margin can Iowa get 334 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: on perceived inferior competition if the turnover battles just even. 335 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Kent State's a twenty three point dog, big letdown spot 336 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: for Iowa at double letdown spot actually, so let's just 337 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: keep an eye on them. USC is at Washington State. 338 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: No clue what to expect from either program this week. 339 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, how about Clemson. Clemson is 340 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: welcoming in Georgia Tech. Clemson's favored by twenty eight. Their 341 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: offense has looked bad two weeks in a row. I mean, 342 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: even against South Carolina State did not like what I 343 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: saw at all. Purdue is only a seven point dog 344 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: in South Bend. So there are two schools of thought here. 345 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Either Notre Dame got a wake up call last week 346 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: against Toledo, and now they get right and Purdue just 347 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: happens to be the victim in the way. Or Jeff 348 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Brom finally has his remember me game. A remember me 349 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: game is when a coach was hot and then his 350 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: team lost some games, and then all of a sudden, 351 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: he flashes back on the radar and then he's back 352 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: at the top of everyone's hot candidate list. Jeff Brom 353 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: needs one of those games badly. Those are just some 354 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: of the early window games. Cincinnati is at Indiana. This 355 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: is one of those two games that Cincinnati has been 356 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: told all summer, some would call it the off season. 357 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: They've been told, Hey, if you want to be in 358 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: this room with us, this big boy room, the playoff 359 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: conversation room, you're gonna have to win your conference. Yeah, 360 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: but oh, anyone could do that. You've got to beat 361 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: some Power five teams. Oh you got Indiana. Yeah, you're 362 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to beat them. Oh you've got Notre Dame. 363 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to beat them. Well, this is the 364 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: first of those games, and they're favored. Are the Bearcats 365 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: by four points. Let's see how they fare. But we've 366 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of games. I mean, I'm gonna run 367 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: down some of these on Thursday night, so tonight, in 368 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: other words, on Late Kick Live. But that's just a 369 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: small taste of what I'm looking at. Let's move on 370 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: to King Jester. He said, what do you think is 371 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: currently most likely? The ACC is left out of the playoff, 372 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: the Big ten is left out of the playoff, the 373 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Big twelve is left out of the playoff, the PAC 374 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: twelve is left out of the playoff, or multiple are 375 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: left out for two SEC teams. Well, you know, I've 376 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: got a policy on the playoff. I do not like 377 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: to talk about it in depth, like to talk about 378 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: scenarios in depth until at least mid October. I will 379 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: answer this, though, King, because you asked, I think it's 380 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: the last one. The most likely thing I think is 381 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: multiple conferences are left out because two SEC teams make 382 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Here's what to watch. I'm looking at our 383 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: model every single week, albeit we're only three weeks m 384 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: but I'm looking at our model and what we set 385 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: our model up to do. It's a lot the same 386 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: way as atmospheric science sets up forecast models to do. 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: All it is built to do is draw on past 388 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: model data and drawn past analog data points. Right now, 389 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: what the twenty twenty one model is pinging is twenty eleven. 390 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, what happened was Alabama and LSU started 391 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: to separate from a quality team standpoint, They started to 392 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: separate from the rest of the pack. And there was that, 393 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, pretty dumb conversation of well, Alabama lost, 394 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: so Oklahoma State should be in the title game. Here's 395 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: what I can tell you. Oklahoma State would have been 396 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: over a touchdown underdog to either one of those teams 397 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: on a neutral field, so in our mind it wasn't close. 398 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: It was Bama LSU by a significant margin as the 399 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: one and two best teams in the country that year. 400 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, what's interesting is it's still early. This could change, 401 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: but the model right now is pinging twenty eleven as 402 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the most comparable data point in recent history since we've 403 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: been doing it, which was seven, I think it's the 404 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: most comparable data point. So what it's saying is, in 405 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: other words, be careful. What we could be seeing right 406 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: now is two SEC teams separating themselves in terms of 407 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: quality from the pack, only this time it would be 408 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia. I'm of the opinion we got to 409 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: see Bama against Florida and Texas A and then before 410 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: we really start to understand what quality of team they are. 411 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying where they're ranked. I think they're the 412 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: best team in the country. I'm asking what quality of 413 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: team are they because that's all relative. Number one in 414 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: the country is all relative. I told you on the 415 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday night edition of Late Kick Live. I ran last 416 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: year and this year through a model. The twenty twenty 417 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Alabama team that ended the season winning a title would 418 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: be an eleven and a half point favorite in our 419 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: model over this current Alabama team. So they were both 420 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: number one, right, but one has a double digit gap 421 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: on the other. So number one is all relative year 422 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: to year, depending on how many high quality teams you 423 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: have across the landscape. So just something to keep in 424 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: mind there Sidelines, Penn State is up next the very 425 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: spot I will be geographically Saturday. As it turns out, 426 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: he said, what would you think about there not being 427 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: preseason polls and the first rankings get released Week eight 428 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: and nine for the playoff show on ESPN. How do 429 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: you think that would change or shift any narrative why. 430 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be possible. Obviously, I've never 431 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: had a problem with preseason polls. It's very popular these 432 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: days to say we should do away with preseason polls. 433 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Could someone tell me? Why? Could someone tell me the 434 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: detriment of it? And let me finish my sentence. Let 435 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: me finish my sentence. I know some of you are 436 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: already talking right now. Let me finish my sentence. Can 437 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: someone tell me what is so detrimental about preseason polls? 438 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: If we understand how to not marry ourselves to them 439 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: and properly interpret what our eyeballs are seeing. Now, having 440 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: said that, can someone tell me? Can anyone tell me 441 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: what's so evil about a preseason poll? If I had 442 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: a pull, not a power rating, totally different. We already 443 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: covered that. If I had a pull and I didn't 444 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: have Iowa in it, or let's say I had a 445 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: rank twenty third to start the year, I'd have no 446 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: problem having Iowa fifth Right now, I wouldn't care. I 447 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: would totally flip my preseason opinion upside down because my eyeballs, 448 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the actual games being played on the field, have told 449 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: me a different story than what my favorite random preview 450 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: magazine told me, no big deal. So if you have 451 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: that mentality, I don't think it's bad at all. I 452 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: think it's very fun exercise to do the preseason polls. 453 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I think some of them are put out there for 454 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: obvious reasons, and that is to get you worked up. 455 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: But you know, if you just want to have a 456 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: little fun and you want to put together what you think, 457 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: it's okay, just as long as you write it in pencil, 458 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: very light pencil, and don't marry yourself to it. What 459 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: I think is ridiculous is someone who hardwires themselves into 460 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: an opinion that's really based off nothing more than spring 461 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: games and magazines, and then they require two solid months 462 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: of contrary data points actually on a football field to 463 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: ever change that opinion. Now, I think there is a 464 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: little bit of ignorance in that mentality. There's a lot 465 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: of ignorance in that mentality, but I think a lot 466 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: of I think enough of us understand how this should 467 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: work that we don't have to fall victim to that. 468 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with the preseason polls. 469 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: And even if you wanted out lawn little sports betting 470 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: is outlawed in some states, still you get money down 471 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: this weekend. I think you probably are, aren't you. Bryce 472 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: is up next, and Bryce has a really complicated or 473 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: at least a complex question. I'm going to do the 474 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: ask it, toss to the ad read, and then come 475 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: back and answer it. Sort of deal. Bryce said, you 476 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: talked about Sam Pittman embodying Arkansas as a culture. Well, 477 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: we had the same conversation about coach O at LSU. 478 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: What has to happen differently for Sam Pittman to fare 479 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: better than oorzer On? Yes, I know LSU did win 480 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: a national championship, marinate on that. Orzaran not in a 481 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: good place at the moment, even two years removed from 482 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: a national championship. Sam Pittman on top of the world 483 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: after that winning Texas. Still a long way to go, 484 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: but looking up, what does he have to do to 485 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: avoid the pitfalls? I'll talk about it when we come back. 486 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: So Bryce asks, simply, how do Sam Pittman, a darktsas 487 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: avoid a lot of the mess that ed Orzon finds 488 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: himself in right now? Well, the first thing is you 489 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: have to stay true to yourself. You have to understand 490 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: who you are, and no matter how good or bad 491 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: people talk about you, that never changes. I think Edorzeron 492 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: came in, had some success, but then had a ton 493 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: of success in twenty nineteen. I think twenty nineteen hardened 494 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: him a lot to ever listening to any outside voice, 495 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: to ever taking any advice. It is very hard when 496 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: you get told you just put together the best run 497 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: in college football history after everyone doubted you. It is 498 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: really hard to open yourself up and humble yourself enough 499 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: to still be able to look in the mirror in 500 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the morning, the world at your fingertips, and say, there's 501 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: some stuff I don't know. Ed Orzeron in retrospect, was 502 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: probably very ill equipped to be the beneficiary of that sea. 503 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: But yet it's not like he put a quarter in 504 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: a grab claw machine and won a Teddy Bear. I mean, 505 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: he had a lot to do with it. I just 506 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: don't think as qualified as he was to lead in 507 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: that particular year, I think he was equally as ill 508 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: equipped to deal with the what I call the consequences 509 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: of success. And anyone who is achieved at a high 510 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: level knows it doesn't remove all the problems from your life. 511 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: Winners do not have all the problems removed from their lives. 512 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: The folks at the highest level, the top one percent, 513 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: They don't have trouble free lives. They just have a 514 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: different set of problems than a normal person does. And 515 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: you never get to experience him in all likelihood because 516 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: most of us will never be the one percent. But 517 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you at Orzron he's finding out. Nick Saban's 518 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: found it out in the past. Urban Myers found it 519 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: out in the past. They probably dealt with it a 520 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: little bit better or a lot better. But at Oorzron's 521 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: finding out. Once you win, and win at a high level, 522 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: your problems don't go away. You don't get to hit 523 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: the cruise control button ever in this sport, in this league, 524 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: or in this sport, because the sport never sits still, 525 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: nothing stays the same. Everything is continually evolving around you. 526 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: Your opponents are evolving, the way they recruit against you, 527 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: the way they gain plan against you. It's evolving. The 528 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: administrative and corporate power structure around the program is evolving. 529 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: It's always on the move. So you, as a default, 530 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: cannot afford to sit still. And I think edors An 531 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: hardened himself a lot and sort of froze himself in 532 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: that moment, and the reality was a lot of things 533 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: needed to change because a lot of guys went out 534 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: the door and you had to bring new people in. 535 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: And from what I've been told from some people around 536 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: that program, it's a program I love, so I tiptoe, 537 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: but I've been told Edorzron went from maybe somewhat reasonable 538 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: and somewhat able to listen to you to completely putting 539 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: his finger over your lips and just sh I got this, No, Ed, 540 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you. Sh I got this. Don't 541 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: you see this ring? Don't you think I know what 542 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Don't you think I know what I'm doing? Well? Yeah, 543 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: I think Joe Brady knew what he was doing. I 544 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: really do think that. And I think you knew what 545 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: you were doing to High. The problem is he's not here, 546 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: and you're still assuming that the results will be the same, Ed, 547 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's smart. Sh I know what I'm doing, well, 548 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: you don't. And so I hope Sam Pittman understands that. 549 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman's got an interesting little situation here which I 550 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: think could draw another parallel not to LSU. Sam Pittman 551 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: has got a great combination of coordinators right now. He's 552 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: got Barry odom as his defensive coordinator. One of the 553 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: best undertold stories in college football right now. And then 554 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: he's got Kendall Briles as his offensive coordinator. And the 555 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: thinking out there is anytime a program that is not 556 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: supposed to be winning starts winning, you better be careful 557 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: because their coordinators are going to get poached. And there 558 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: is reason to think that normally, because normally that's what happens. 559 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: Did it happen with the Clemson Tigers. No, it did not. 560 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: It did not happen with them. They started winning championships 561 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and the coordinator stayed. Famously, 562 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: most of the coaching staff has stayed. And how did 563 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: that happen? Well, it happened because when you ask those guys, 564 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: they say, well, we didn't have any reason to leave. 565 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: What about more money? Well, you can't buy the happiness 566 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and the culture we have here. Folks who have a 567 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: little life experience about themselves and they've been in unhappy 568 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: places and uncomfortable places. Once they find happiness, brother, it's 569 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: really hard to rip that away from them. I don't 570 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: care what kind of job title and desk plaque you 571 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: offer them, and an upgrade and pay don't ever try 572 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: and get happier than happy, and they found happiness. A 573 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: lot of those staffers at Clemson love it. What if 574 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman builds a Clumson like culture. I'm not saying 575 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: the championship rings automatically come with that. I'm talking about 576 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: from a dynamic standpoint. The new thing to keep an 577 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: eye on at Arkansas is Barry odom married to the 578 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: concept of being there a few years. Is Kendall Brile's 579 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: married to the concept of being there a few years 580 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: because they're going to have offers come their way. They 581 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: already did. Ed Orseran tried to get Barry Odom as 582 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator this past off season and bury Otem 583 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: did not go. Almost happened, but he did not go. 584 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: That's been publicly talked about, so that's not a secret 585 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm sharing with you. Kendall Brows is obviously gonna have 586 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: offers too. It's just a unique situation. This is very rare. 587 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Everyone preaches culture, like I've told you, so few get 588 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: it right to the point where people are willing to 589 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: stick around even when what we would call better options 590 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: come along. But they have not created that. At lsu 591 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: Ed Orzron has not created that. They created an incubator 592 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: where a championship could grow, a championship team could grow 593 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: and thrive in twenty nineteen. But do you see any 594 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: residue of twenty nineteen on that program right now? I don't. 595 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: So I don't think that was culture. I think that 596 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: was a special group in a special year. If it was, 597 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: then the culture got spoiled really quickly. Let me just 598 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: put it that way, because there's a lot down there 599 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't feel good. I wish it were otherwise, I'd 600 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: be happy to lie to you, but I can't. I 601 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: wish it felt different. But I know good and well 602 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of you, most of the 603 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: LSU fans who listen, you feel e equally as bad 604 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: right now. And your language in some cases is a 605 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: little more harsh than mine is towards your own program. 606 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: So it's just something to keep an eye on. Let's 607 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: rattle through a couple more here. I think I had 608 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, here we go about Michigan. I did 609 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: not record who sent this. Some my apologies, but the 610 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: question is, don't you have to be at least a 611 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: little concerned about Michigan's ability or like thereof to throw 612 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: the ball through two games. Yes, my definitive answer is yes, 613 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: Jppole has Michigan. I think at thirteenth. I'm surprised by 614 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: that quite frankly, that feels high to me. But that 615 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: just goes to show you I don't manually override anything 616 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: I put out. What the model says. To put out 617 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: almost feel like a trained seal, just ooh ooh ooh, 618 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: but that's what the model says. Yeah, I got concerns absolutely. 619 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I will say this now, for better or for worse. 620 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll let you interpret Michigan fan based on how you 621 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: perceive what I'm about to say. We don't have to 622 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: guess about Michigan's identity, do we? That run to pass 623 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: combination or ratio the other day, I don't know. It 624 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: was like seventeen to fifty two or something like that. 625 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: It was crazy, and they ran it and ran it, 626 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and then when they were done running it, or they 627 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: decided to run it some more, and even Washington in 628 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: desperation mode, a very sound defensive team, could not hold 629 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: up to it. Yes, of course, the problem is gonna 630 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: be eventually someone's gonna have a lead on Michigan and 631 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna have to put the ball in the air. 632 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: And no, I don't think anyone has confidence in that 633 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: up to an including that coaching staff. And if you 634 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: think back to spring, we thought we were going to 635 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: see Xavier Worthy on this team, and Ronnie Bell helped 636 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: the all year, and Worthy is now playing for Texas 637 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: very well, might I add, and Ronnie Bell's out for 638 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: the year. I think at some point, I think they 639 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: said this on the broadcast the other night. At some 640 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: point it seems that Jim Harball looked around and said, 641 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: you know what, if we're gonna go down, we're gonna 642 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 1: go down doing it my way. Josh gat Us, come 643 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: over here. Run the ball, run it, run it, run it. 644 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: But what about no run it? So I think what 645 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna do is they're gonna run it. They'll probably 646 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: lose some games because of this, but I think Jim 647 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Harball is comfortable with going down if they go down, 648 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: sticking to what he perceived to be the strengths of 649 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: his team. Let's roll with Spencer here, and I'm gonna 650 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: tag team this with a lot of the questions you 651 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: guys asked about this Saturday about Auburn at Penn State. 652 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: So the first questions were just kind of like, talk 653 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: about it a little bit. You know, what are you 654 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to? I am looking forward to the environment. 655 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I cannot overstate this enough. I know I go on 656 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: these diatribes every week, but I'm going to keep this 657 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: one to forty five seconds. It is so exciting for 658 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: a kid who grew up in the South. I'm still 659 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: calling myself a kid for these purposes. I am a 660 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: kid who grew up in the South. I watched Southern football, 661 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: but I just watched these Big Ten atmospheres from a distance, 662 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: and I was always fascinated by him. They're massive, stadium's 663 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: great rich tradition. And you know, on every street corner 664 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: down here, at every chevron, we talk about the sec 665 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: and we talk about how there's nothing that duplicates the 666 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: passion and the Rabbit fan bases down here. Listen. I 667 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: believe that, okay, But I also know that when I 668 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: turn on a Penn State game and I watched that 669 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: white out, I know there's nothing that supersedes that down here. 670 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: Even I know when I watched those big time atmospheres 671 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, I know, for one thing I 672 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: can do math I know those stadiums are even bigger, 673 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: and number two, the spectacle is incredible. It's just it's 674 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: the spectacle alone. I had a buddy who hit me 675 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: up on Twitter and the DMS today and said, I've 676 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: got a friend who doesn't watch college football. They've agreed 677 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to watch for a weekend. What should I show them. 678 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I said, turn on this game Saturday night, because a 679 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: total agnostic sports fan could turn this on and be 680 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: fascinated just with the spectacle. I used to love pro wrestling. 681 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't like the product anymore. I'll still turn on 682 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: WrestleMania for the spectacle. I'm fascinated by the set design, 683 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: by the pyros, by the lighting, by the broadcast presentation 684 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Watch the Penn State Auburn game, 685 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: even if you're not fascinated with the teams. The spectacle alone, 686 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: it's what I can't wait to be a part of. 687 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: And I get to be there. I mean, I get 688 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: to have a company send me there and wear a 689 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: white T shirt excusably during the entire prosus It gets 690 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: no better than that. Come on, now, it gets no 691 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: better than that. So Spencer asked a follow up question 692 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: at the kind of piggybacks off that he said, with 693 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Penn State and Auburn coming up, do you prefer the 694 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: home and home out of conference or neutral site? Oh, 695 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: this is a slam dunk. No one loves neutral site games. 696 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: No one does unless it's a bowl game at the 697 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: end of the year. No one loves neutral site games. 698 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: And I'm glad when you look at future scheduling, far 699 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: fewer of those neutral site games are being scheduled. We've 700 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of home and homes on campus games 701 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: being scheduled. There's nothing like going on the road in 702 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: college football. I have talked about this at such great links. 703 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: I am enamored with home field advantage in college football. 704 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I wish so badly I could take you guys with me. 705 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I do it as much as I can courtesy of 706 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: a cell phone. I shoot as much behind the scenes 707 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: footage for you as I can. I put it on 708 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: the Instagram story on Saturdays at late kick Josh highly 709 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: recommend you follow for this weekend or on Twitter. I 710 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: put a lot of it on Twitter too. What I 711 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: love showing you, though, There's one specific facet that you 712 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: never get to see, and that is, in most cases, 713 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: you don't get to see it how small and cramped 714 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: and confined the visitors' locker rooms are. In a lot 715 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: of cases, some of these major programs, they travel so deep, 716 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: they have such a big roster and a big support 717 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: staff and a training staff and nutrition staff, they can't 718 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: fit their operation in the locker room. I have told you, 719 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I think a couple of times on this podcast, when 720 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: Georgia and LSU and Alabama go into Auburn, the Auburn 721 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: locker room is not big enough. It's big enough in 722 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, it's not big enough for these operations 723 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: that they take on the road. And so if Alabama 724 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: goes in there, they got a bunch of training tables, 725 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: and they got a bunch of nutrition areas. They got 726 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: it spilling all out into the concourse that's under the stadium. 727 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: So it's not like they're holding up traffic or anything, 728 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: but it's all over the place down there. That's an advantage. 729 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: It's an advantage also that when you have to walk 730 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: back out to the field, you have to be in 731 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: a single file line because the tunnel is so closed in. 732 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: I hope you're not claustrophobic. The tunnel is so closed 733 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: in all of this stuff is awesome to me. I 734 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: love it. You're really having to overcome something when you 735 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: go on the road. Not to mention every thirty five 736 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: or forty seconds when bo Nick's and that Auburn offense 737 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: try and snap the ball Saturday night, it'll sound like 738 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: they're doing it on a runway at Hartsville Jackson International 739 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Airport in Atlanta. But that's why when you see these 740 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: locker room celebration videos, that's why they look like they do. 741 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: In college. You have accomplished something when you go on 742 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: the road in these venues and you win. I don't 743 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: care if you were favored or if you were a 744 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: six point dog. You have accomplished something. It feels like 745 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: you just overcame something that should have been insurmountable, because 746 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: normal humans who have not prepared themselves mentally and physically 747 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: for that would wilt. It's hard enough to gather your 748 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: thoughts just standing on the sideline. You don't even have 749 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: to go block and tackle. You don't have to throw 750 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: or catch or run. You just stand there, and it's 751 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: really hard to maintain your focus. Imagine playing in that 752 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: and then imagine winning in it. So it's fun. I 753 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: love competition, and I love the atmospheres and I love 754 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: watching someone in a competitive environment try and overcome those obstacles. 755 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: That is, in a nutshell, what I'm looking forward to 756 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: Saturday night. Not to mention being around about one hundred 757 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: and ten thousand people who are dressed like me, even 758 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: if we're one night only, all right, appreciate it so much. 759 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to get this sent off to producer Jordan. 760 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: Remember be following on the socials at Late Kick, Josh, 761 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: make sure you drop us a five star review. All 762 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: the things I'm asking you to do, as usual are free. 763 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: And remember with game day in town Saturday, We've got 764 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: a new rule around here. Anyone who gets a Late 765 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: Kick poster or a paid State Freights poster or logo 766 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: on national television is getting a piece of hardware from us. 767 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you what it is, yet it's gonna 768 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: be awesome. I love them. We are getting them made 769 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: as we speak, and by them. I speak in plural 770 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: form because I'm planning on having to send out more 771 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: than one. Make it happen. Make sure you have evidence 772 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: send it to me. I will what your name out 773 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: there if you want it out there. But you are 774 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: getting a good old fashioned early Christmas present from us 775 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: if you do indeed pull it off like our buddy 776 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: from Iowa, Calvin Marx did just one week ago until 777 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: tonight on Late Kicklive. Thanks so much for listening, Have 778 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: a great rest of your day, and God bless