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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of four,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of two and soon to be three

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Speaker 1: and a practicing physician. We are two working parents who

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Speaker 1: love our careers and our families. Welcome to best of

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Speaker 1: both worlds. Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Hi, this is Laura. This

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Speaker 1: is best of both worlds. Today, we are talking about goals.

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Speaker 1: What worked for us in twenty seventeen with our goal setting,

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Speaker 1: what didn't work for us because that also happens, and

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Speaker 1: then what we're looking forward to in twenty eighteen. And

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Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about New Year's resolutions when

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Speaker 1: we had Gretchen Rubin on a few weeks ago. But

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Speaker 1: we're going to explore a little bit more what Sarah

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Speaker 1: and I have done in terms of goals in the

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Speaker 1: past year. So, Sarah, how is twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. It was. It was quite a year. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I would say my primary goal of the year when

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Speaker 1: the year began was to have a baby, so like

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Speaker 1: I can give myself a giant check. B I love

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Speaker 1: that check enough, like have another child check because we

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Speaker 1: started trying in January and then had a baby by December.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it could be much more successful

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Speaker 1: than that. But I have done some like further analysis.

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Speaker 1: Do you do any kind of like post year I

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Speaker 1: don't know, formal evaluation of what went well and what

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Speaker 1: went poorly? Or do you? I mean I do because

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Speaker 1: I can usually get a few blog posts out of it, right,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I can look back on did I

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Speaker 1: get my stuff checked off on my seasonal fund list?

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Speaker 1: So I'm probably going to do one at some point

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Speaker 1: on did I get all the stuff on the holiday

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Speaker 1: fund list? For instance? And then I did a post

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Speaker 1: on my quarterly goals that I had set for the year,

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Speaker 1: and I did a mid year post on how I

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Speaker 1: was doing on those quarterly goals. So I probably should

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Speaker 1: do an end of your post on how I did

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Speaker 1: on the quarterly goals and if I'm setting them for

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, what those might be. Definitely I will say

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Speaker 1: I am like a total sucker, Like if I see

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Speaker 1: a podcast title, you know, from some other podcasts, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen goals or a blog post. I there's something

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Speaker 1: about seeing what other people have aimed for and how

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Speaker 1: it went that I find very addictive. And maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just that it gives me ideas of things I might

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Speaker 1: odd satisfaction in watching other people make progress towards their goals.

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Speaker 1: But I really enjoy them. So I hope we can

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Speaker 1: give a little bit of our specifics of what worked

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Speaker 1: and what we hope to do for next year. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: what was sort of interesting to me as I was

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and what was working, you know, in very

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Speaker 1: And some of them were things that I made goals for,

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Speaker 1: things that worked sometimes were just very serendipitous. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: because life presents you with opportunities sometimes and those are

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Speaker 1: definitely here. I'll share a few of my specific what

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Speaker 1: Some other things are reading more and using the library.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that everybody knows about who listens to this

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Speaker 1: So that's something that worked in twenty seventeen. What about you, Well,

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Speaker 1: on potentially doing a time management fable sort of I'm excited,

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Speaker 1: always a good thing. But my favorite speech this year

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Speaker 1: That is so cool as my twentieth anniversary of graduating.

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Speaker 1: to brainstorm what could work in twenty eighteen. One work

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Speaker 1: that Josh and I finally were like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: their big gifts can be birthday gifts because Annabel will

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Speaker 1: turn six in April and the doll will definitely be okay,

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Speaker 1: hopefully she's not a podcast listening's like, wait, I just

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Speaker 1: totally got screwed here. I can reveal that, but yes,

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Speaker 1: I totally get that. Well, I will share a few

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Speaker 1: random goals just because I love hearing other people, so

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Speaker 1: I will give people the excitement of hearing a couple

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Speaker 1: of mine. And I'm actually dividing the year into like

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Speaker 1: five segments because it just makes sense naturally, because the

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Speaker 1: first one is more like maternity leave, and that's until

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Speaker 1: the beginning of March. Then I'm going to be in

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Speaker 1: total work mode, and then it's gonna be summer, and

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be back to school, and then winter

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Speaker 1: and holidays, So for that first kind of Q one

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Speaker 1: to take the kids ice skating. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a bucket list one, but they've never been and we

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Speaker 1: have a rink right near us, so it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: even bring the baby for some of them, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know right now, I can't picture leaving her anywhere

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Speaker 1: and she would just sleep, so we'll see. But I

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Speaker 1: could leave Annabelle and Cameron at home and that would

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Speaker 1: be okay. I want to revitalize my wardrobe and we

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Speaker 1: will have a guest too, might be able to help

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Speaker 1: me with that, who I'm very excited about as I

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Speaker 1: transition into actual real clothing again, hooray. And I do

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Speaker 1: want to do some reading every single day because I

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Speaker 1: found it's a habit that really gives me pleasure and

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Speaker 1: if I make the effort to do it, then I

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Speaker 1: am happier and I really enjoy it. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a little taste. I will also be posting on probably

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Speaker 1: on the maybe I'll post this on our Best of

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Speaker 1: both worlds and stuff, so people can see my Q

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Speaker 1: one goals in entirety. And Laura, if you have anything

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Speaker 1: that you want to send, I can post that. I

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Speaker 1: won't look as nice as yours. Your like beautiful little

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Speaker 1: planner pages. Mine mine are just scribbled on a I

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Speaker 1: could send a picture of my planner pages, but it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of ugly. I can't explain it. But making

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Speaker 1: them super neat and pretty is like part of the

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Speaker 1: process for my brain and organizing them. So I like writing,

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Speaker 1: and I'll circle something if I need to, you know,

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Speaker 1: emphasize that I haven't done it and I need to

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Speaker 1: do it. And so there's like random angry red circles

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Speaker 1: all over the place. You're like a professor over the page. Well,

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Speaker 1: are we at love of the Week yet? I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think. I hope that gives people enough of a

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Speaker 1: taste of our goals. I'm sure there will also be

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Speaker 1: multiple blog posts for you all to peruse as well,

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Speaker 1: and if you have your own lists, I really I'm

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Speaker 1: not kidding, I'm like a voyeur. I love looking at them,

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Speaker 1: so post them and Laura's comments are on the Instagram

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Speaker 1: because I just enjoy. If you want to tag us

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Speaker 1: at best of both Worlds? Right podcast? Oh yeah, we'd

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Speaker 1: love to say it, or you know, did you even

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Speaker 1: use the hashtag best of both worlds? We'd love to

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Speaker 1: see your goals. Ooh a hashtag? We haven't even done

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Speaker 1: that yet. Yeah. Fun, all right. So my loves of

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Speaker 1: I resisted buying another Rock and Play sleeper, but I'm

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Speaker 1: glad I got one because I don't know newborns and

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Speaker 1: my my three out of three newborns seem to only

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Speaker 1: like sleeping in that, and therefore it is the best

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Speaker 1: advice ever. It's worth it, totally worth it. My caveat

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Speaker 1: is I think it gave both Annabelle and Cameron somewhat

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Speaker 1: flat heads, But with that said, they they unflattened with

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Speaker 1: time and no interventions, so I'm just like, it's worth

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Speaker 1: it to me trying to pick how do we give

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Speaker 1: them a flat head? I don't know. It's like very

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Speaker 1: cushy in the back and you're lying them back to sleep.

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Speaker 1: And Cameron in particular are pediatrician even was like, can

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Speaker 1: you make sure the helmet doctor checks him out and

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Speaker 1: make sure and he did not need a helmet or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. But uh yeah, it's just so comfy

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Speaker 1: for them that it's worth that risk to me. And

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Speaker 1: then my other love, because I'm going to give two

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Speaker 1: loves and they're related, is the Halo sleepsacks with swaddle

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Speaker 1: because also a magical combination. And I've been getting some sleep,

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Speaker 1: which is great. What about you. I'm gonna do a

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Speaker 1: shower out to certain toddler TV programs over others. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what are the good So the ones we're watching. I

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Speaker 1: think we've talked about that. This may have been my

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Speaker 1: love of the week. I was anytime I'm up early.

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Speaker 1: like any more. Go Diego Go is a favorite. And

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Speaker 1: the upside of that is there's no commercials, so I

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Speaker 1: don't have to forward through anything. So if I put

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Speaker 1: on Go Diego Go, sometimes I can go get twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes of work done, or sleep for twenty minutes, or

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Speaker 1: even go on the treadmill for twenty minutes, which is

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Speaker 1: which is brilliant. Dora similarly has has no commercials, so

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Speaker 1: then my son is a little bit lessened to that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's already identifying with the boy

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Speaker 1: versus girl thing. Interesting. We also like Paw Patrol. I

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Speaker 1: can tolerate watching Paw Patrol with him. It's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of adventure loving dogs who are in the town of

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Speaker 1: Adventure Bay, which looks somewhat like Seattle. There's mountains close

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Speaker 1: by and beaches and lots of evergreens, so maybe that's

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Speaker 1: where it is. But they solve all sorts of problems.

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Speaker 1: That one does have commercials though, it has a lot

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Speaker 1: of commercials, so that's it commercials. He might like PJ Masks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've checked that out. It's on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: so no commercials there, and it's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: action Netflix. Oh it's really cheap. It does have a

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Speaker 1: wealth of things without commercials. He's like looking into yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's like eight bucks versus I cannot stand The

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Speaker 1: Adventures of Chuck and Friends. It's like this, I think,

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Speaker 1: who does things wrong and then learns his lesson every time? Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: those are dangerous because they identify with the naughtiness and

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I'm going to do that too, because

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Speaker 1: it was so cute and all, Like Kayu, I used

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Speaker 1: to think like Kayu was okay, but then I watched

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Speaker 1: a few more Cayus and like, I can't Sankayu anymore.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that about this is another's naughty little four

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Speaker 1: year old. He does look various impish things, and then

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Speaker 1: you know it doesn't work out. Of course, it's another

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Speaker 1: moralistic sort of cartoon, which it has to be because

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Speaker 1: the parents are the ones selecting it at this point.

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Speaker 1: But like you still get all that, like, h he's

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Speaker 1: naughty and whatever, and so another one that I really

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Speaker 1: cannot stand. Chuck is the worst defender, but maybe that's

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Speaker 1: just because he asks for it all the time. Like

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Speaker 1: there are others I don't like but that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: care about as much. So Chuck and friends, I hate you,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, listeners, if you have other suggestions

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Speaker 1: for Laura's youngest, who is almost three, and we're looking

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Speaker 1: for without commercials and without a badly behaved child, then

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Speaker 1: please let us know. Well, all right, we've this has

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Speaker 1: been best of both worlds. We've been talking about our

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Speaker 1: goals for twenty eighteen and what worked and what didn't

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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Again, if you want to share yours

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Speaker 1: with ours, please do. We'll have a podcast discussion thread

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Speaker 1: going on my blog Laura vandercam dot com. We're also

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Speaker 1: on Instagram Best of Both Worlds Podcasts and look forward

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Speaker 1: to hearing from people. Until next time, we'll be trying

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Speaker 1: to make our own work and life fit together. And

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty proud of us here, Like we managed to

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Speaker 1: record this like in between my phone call and Sarah's

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Speaker 1: nursing session, so we're really making it all work right now,

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Speaker 1: all right, thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah

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Speaker 1: at the shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and you can find me Laura at Laura

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Speaker 1: vandercam dot com. This has been the Best of Both

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Speaker 1: Worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for more on

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Speaker 1: making work and life work together. A boy