1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, fourteen 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Anius Williams. Hi 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: em Whenius Williams. Welcome to part two of the day's podcast. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm here with Brian Emmett, DeMarcus, and Jim Kelly, three 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: of my Hall of Fame brothers and one soon to 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: be listen in. You got a bag of knowledge that 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: you have yet to tap into and your and you 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: left all of those nuggets onto the football field. He 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: really took them off the football field with you. And 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: so life itself is a game. It may not be 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: a football game. It could be a basketball game, it 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: could be a baseball game. You can call it whatever 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: you want it, but it is a game that had 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: that somebody has to play, and people were playing. You 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: got people that's gonna get up and do their routine. 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up, I'm a show up at work 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. I'm gonna hit that clock is five 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going back home and all I'm gonna do that. 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that for for fifty two weeks out 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: of the year to provide for my family. That's that's it. 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: And they don't want no more than that. And then 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: you got folks that says, you know what, I'm gonna 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: do that, but I want more. I'm gonna get here 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: up for fifty two weeks. By the time the fifty 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: second week get here, I want to know not only finance, 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: I want to know marketing. I want to know I 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: want to know operations. I want to know this and 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: everything else. Production and I want to know at all. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: So when when the next year all around, I want 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: to elevate myself. I don't want to just be one 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: of those kind of person that comes in and punch 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: the clock. I want to be more. I need to 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: do more because I'm motivated to do more and I'm 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: expanding my mind. And I think that's what we do 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: with some athletes. We get to this place after retirement 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: where we don't exercise our mind and we think that 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: this is it, this is who I am, and this 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: is who in society has a way of telling you 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: that's all you're gonna be too. Let's be honest. I mean, 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: when you walk in for a job that people want 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: to talk about football all the time, or dance with 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the stars, whatever it is. And you're there to talk business, 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and you talk because you have something to offer beyond 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: just entertaining you. I'm here on business. I am a businessman. 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: I want to do business just like the next man 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: or woman and and and I want you to take 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: me seriously just as much as you want me to 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: take you seriously as a person. And I want one 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: of you guys to say that the end, because the 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: legends that are listening to this podcast. The other thing 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: is to believe that you can do it, because we've 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: been playing so long and guys start thinking, well, I 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: can only be good at this, or I've been out 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: of the league for so long. I think nobody don't 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: remember me the question. The thing is, it's not about 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: if somebody remembers you. The thing is you have a 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: lot of tools already that you can go service in 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: certain areas. And what I mean by that, it's like 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: there are job things that you can do that they 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: don't have anything to do with your name, because they 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: lean a lot on that. You know, when gods say 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: and they're not gonna remember him for me anymore. I 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: tell you, when you have a good business partner, or 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: you have a person that you're doing business with, they 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: really don't care about your name. They care about what 67 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: you bring into the table. They care about what type 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: of business opportunities you have. They don't care about name, 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: so they care about production exams once you get in, 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: even if you do know him. And also that's what's 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: in that quiver, is that belief, because at the end 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: of the day, you you didn't come out being on 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Chicago a Buffo Bile, Arizona Cardinals, nor Denver Bronco. You 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: came out as the markets where a little pop water 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: board had to go through the ranks, like all of 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: us at the table had to. A matter of fact, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: they had to drag you off of a track in 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: order to put you on a football field. So there 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: was no even you didn't think about playing the game. 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Somebody to say he fais you don't put him out 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: on the corner. So at the end of the day, 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: you stumble right into your situation, your destiny anyway, So 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: when it comes down to that word belief, we all 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: had a belief that we had an opportunity to do something, 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: and we all felt like we had the talent to 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: do it, and you got the talent to do this 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: and learn what we all had to learn. Surely we 88 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: could pick up a book and learn everything else was 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: about that thing. And I had to go through all 90 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: these two hundreds in our players, and you know what, 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I realized, it's a hundred players. That's 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: all it is. Ain't two hundred. It's just right and left, 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: that's what. And you have the point because to and 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: you go back to this. But also remember sports was 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the first reality TV. Right, Not only did we had 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: to learn these plays, you had to make an adjustment, 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: and while hundred sixty thousand in the in the stadium 98 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: in millions watching, and when you have a bad play, 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: they don't start the game over. So what I'm saying, 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: and I keep reiterating, I want you guys keep saying 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: it because as people listen to this, they here, it is, 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: this is what life is. This is this is what 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: life is. Right. I have a broadcast with my ministry 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: we have on TV. It's called a game of life. 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Is interesting you mentioned that it's really life is like 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a game. And we don't set the rules, right, we 107 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: figure somebody either teach us the rules, we figure out 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: their rules and then you got yourself according with yes, 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: you know they don't. In the pros it's two ft 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: right secure casts two feet and bounds in college one ft. 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: So you got to know the rules. Life transition and 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: everybody transition. Every My dad couldn't wait to retire. See 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: here's the difference, though, I think that that that that 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: jumps us, jumps in our face. We come out one 115 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: years of age and we roll right into our profession, 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: and if we're fortunate and lucky enough to be there 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: in the minimum ten fifteen years, we we mastered our craftsmanship. 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: Now think about this football in the terms of a 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: prison sentence. In three or four years, you probably already 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: six years behind in prison. Fifteen years, you probably two 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: decades behind in prison. From a from a mentality standpoint, 122 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: in freedom freedom was So when you get done in 123 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: this sport, you're stepping into a brand new arena, looking 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: back and said, okay, I need to start over again. 125 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: I'm back at ground zero. Financially, I may not be mentally, 126 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I may be a ground zero because I don't have 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the business acronym unless I've done a good job. Within 128 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the fifteen years of taking advantage of the NFL programs 129 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: that they actually have stupid, I mean Harvard A. Warden 130 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Business Schools, all those things. If I don't take it, 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: if I don't take advantage of those things, that I 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: have no one else to blame but myself. And so 133 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: there are programs that the NFL has provided. Those programs 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: to me are absolutely excellent programs, outstanding programs at great 135 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: universities with with with with great uh teachers and instructors, 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: those things. When you get done, you should be able 137 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: to walk from that football field, put on that three 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: piece tying up that week so ever you want to 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: look good anyway, And as DNA say, look good, feel good, 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: I played good. Let's make this happen. And so when 141 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: you're getting there in that boardroom and you're having this 142 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: conversation with these folks, and they understand that you not 143 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: only or an athlete that comes with a discipline and 144 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a certain kind of uh uh, mystique and and and 145 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and tolerance. Your strategists, your planner, your visionary, you see 146 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: how to connect these dots. And once you start connecting 147 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: the dots and turn your head coach into a CEO 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: and you're and you're running back of your position coach 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: into like a CFO or or marketing person, or the 150 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: operations and all that you understand the rage structure of 151 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: an organization and how they all function because I think 152 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, financially, everybody understand more 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: has to stay in then has to go out. That's 154 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: basically that's basic fundamentals of financial management. More has to 155 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: stay in the house, then has to go out of 156 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the house. So those kind of things and how products 157 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: and everything are are actually produced, how they're how they're packaged, 158 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: how they are promoted, how they are sold, all all 159 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: those things. Once you get that, it's like, yeah, I 160 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: got you, bro, Yeah we can talk strategy. I see 161 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: a piece of property over there that that's supposed to 162 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: be this, Do you see it? Because we all have 163 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: a vision and we all saw something before we became it. 164 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: So we have that. We have that skill set, and 165 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing to have. All of these things 166 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: that we're talking about sit in that sit in our quiver. 167 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: We just gotta pull the arrow and be willing to 168 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: shoot them, shoot the boat. And even for those who 169 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: are not into let's say business as guys who got 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: a ton of money and just don't know what to 171 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: do because for some reason they thought football was their 172 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: purpose when football was never our purpose. Is what we 173 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: do and the foot the game of football now should 174 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: be able to, as we've said earlier, catapult to us 175 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: into whatever you decide to do. All of us had 176 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: to work hard, all of us had to have teammates. 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: So maybe guys should be coaching, you know, instead of 178 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: For me, I remember going through the car business. It's 179 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: not even something I love, and man, I learned hard 180 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: lessons in it, and I had people running in and 181 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I didn't oversee it properly, so it was a big hit. 182 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: It was a learning lesson and it hurt. Often times 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: we get hurt by putting our finances in the hands 184 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: of others. Yes, oftentimes that happens, uh, because you don't know, 185 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you don't know what you think they know. Well, that's 186 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: as we did in football, study and learn the playbook 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: in order because one thing I learned in football when 188 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: I first got to the Cowboys. You everybody in this 189 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: room know the game moves so fast, right, you know, 190 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: wise moment so fast because you don't know what the 191 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: hell you're doing. You're still trying to figure out, you're 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: thinking on the move you're trying to You're trying to 193 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: figure that out. But once you figure it all out, 194 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: as the back window, the game slows down. So that 195 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: means your knowledge level GOTA rows up. And so at 196 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the same the same time, what you're saying is we 197 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: did not know what we did not know, but it's 198 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: our job to get in there and learned what we 199 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: needed to learn and then and then go from there. 200 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: His interest, Tom Brady, They asked him and said, why 201 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: do you want Maybe you've heard this gym. They asked 202 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: him and said, why do you want to keep playing 203 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: out the forty And he said, why would I stop? 204 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: Not a noted answers to the town. I mean I'm 205 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: talking him about because of course he shouldn't division And 206 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: he said, you know what with me, I still love 207 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: the game, I'm still on fun and I feel good. 208 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I of course I could look at it 209 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: a different way to say, yeah, because you didn't get 210 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: bet on like we did. I mean in the past. 211 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean you if the bline is just you guys 212 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: have shame before. How how deep can when you bury 213 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that quarterback in that astro turf that we can do now? 214 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Just Shaw last week you touched him the wrong way 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: and penalty flag coming on. I wish that that was 216 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: like we had. And you know, just listen to Emmett 217 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: before about as as time goes on, all the leadership 218 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: ability that you yet and the things that you learn 219 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: as a player. Even for me, after I got done playing, 220 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: I thought about, Okay, let me kick back, relax and 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: enjoy life the way it's supposed to be. I mean, 222 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I envisioned, you know, shart my own business, but having 223 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: more fun, enjoying myself. And of course everybody has thrown curveballs. 224 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, within two weeks after I retired, my son 225 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: was born, and I dreamt about all those great things 226 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: and taking care of them. But mine was a different 227 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: a vision that the Lord had for me. Mine was different. 228 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Not everybody's the same. Not everybody is mentally blessed to 229 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: have that ability to go out and start a business, 230 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: be able to go out on their own, be able 231 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: to surround themselves with good people that you trust with 232 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: your money. That always doesn't happen. People might think that 233 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: this is the right person, it turns out to be 234 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: the wrong people. And not why with good quality people 235 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: because you never know what they're thinking, but you gotta 236 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: learn what they're thinking, just like they're on the football field. 237 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: As a quarterback, you want to make sure you know 238 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: what that receivers take them. When he's running that route. 239 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: You've got to make sure he's mentally prepared to go 240 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: with guys that defensive back because when you're in presh 241 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: prush coverage and they're keep peeking in, you know they're 242 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: probably gonna presh bail and if a stare, you know 243 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna run with them. So you do the formations. 244 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: And I know I'm talking football because when I watch 245 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: a game of football, I don't watch just the football. 246 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I want to look at the defense. I want to 247 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: know if they're under your over they don't cover two 248 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: and a man coverage when you run the forth, when 249 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: they run the motion back and forth, is a guy 250 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: going back and forth and okay, what's his his flag 251 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: pattern is not gonna be a favor route. You gotta 252 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: mentally know when you're on the football field what everybody 253 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: else sus thinking. When you get on playing the game 254 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: of football, you could understand what that person is thinking 255 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: because he knows you have the money, but how's you 256 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: going to utilize it? To help you your family get 257 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: to where you want where you can check back, laugh 258 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: and don't have to worry about all that. I like 259 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: what he's saying because it's all about the game plan 260 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: that you have after you're done playing, right, And it's 261 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: the same thing as when you're in the room and 262 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: you contested are laquer. They always say you better know 263 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: what that nose guard with the tackles doing, with the 264 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: defensive ends are doing. You know exactly the responsibility for 265 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: everybody on your team. You're the captain of the team 266 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: or Lacker and I would be on the Lackers team. Okay, 267 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: er Lacker has the money. Now we're talking about real life. 268 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: You have the money, you don't know what to do, 269 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: all right, and you find some things you want to do. 270 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: But the people that you get involved with, you need 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to find out what their position is on your team 272 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and what their knowledge less and what their knowledge level 273 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: is exactly do they have something to lose because every 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, people that own my team, you don't 275 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: want to lose it just as much as I do, 276 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: because you weren't trying to get that championship. I'm talking 277 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: about from a football standpoint. Now, when we're trying to 278 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: do this new venture or whatever that we're doing. Your 279 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: responsibilities probably be a little bit different than mine, but 280 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: my risk might be the same as yours. So I 281 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: thank you, Mark. I want to close with a foundational 282 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: principle that disapplicable and and I can remember hearing about 283 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: you going to was it Jerry? What your goals? So 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: the three letters I toss out V A vision advocate, 285 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: that's the people, Jim, who you're talking about. You gotta 286 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: surround your people who are your advocates. And number three 287 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: to adversary. The one thing all of us know when 288 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: we walk on the field, you better have your head 289 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: on this. Yeah, right, no matter who you are, got 290 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: there's an adversary. And so we got to re mind 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: out so that football we know, right, the same thing 292 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: in life resource that we do have that wants to 293 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: extract it and he do with your ignorance. We talked 294 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: about that, right, and then you talked about the games. 295 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: So I don't want you know what you're doing. I 296 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: totally understand that. So as we as we close out, 297 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: what wisdom, um, would you give legends who've not had 298 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: success early on, they've not had it and they maybe 299 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: they're struggling, or maybe they listening to this for some 300 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of hope. That's funny you are bringing that up. 301 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I would just shut a bank with two days ago 302 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: in the Arizona and uh, Jalen Hurts was there. He 303 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: was speaking and just listening to him and he shut something. 304 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: And trust me, guys, I'm not here to preach or anything, 305 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: but I realize how the Good Lord has blessed me 306 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: through what I had. I mean, if you know about 307 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: my life, I was a crazy whacker doodle back in 308 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: the day. And I still him to a certain point, 309 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: but I do realize. And he said something that just 310 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: hit me and it's it's John thirteen seven, And uh, 311 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: you do not realize now what I am doing, but 312 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: later you will understand. And I for all those young 313 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: kids are going through tough times now, and even the 314 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: kids chiefs with my homes how they lost that game 315 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees And even though mahomes a young talented guy, 316 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: you're you have to realize that you have to go 317 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: out working even harder next year than you did this year. 318 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Damn Mario a good example. He went, that's super Bowl 319 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: second year. He saidas wouldn't get back, you know, four 320 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: or five six times you want once. You have to 321 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: realize that everybody has things that it comes their way. 322 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: But you take a year by year your busterer, but 323 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: you do what you have to do, your stronger, show 324 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: a good quality of people. With the work ethic that 325 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: you have, anything is possible. But don't ever think that 326 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: that takes it for granted. Everything is gonna be good 327 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: all the time. You have to know when things are 328 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: not going well, how you to rally your teammates, how 329 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: you go to rally your troops are on you get 330 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: down to continue to come back? Four super bowls a row. 331 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: You don't think that was hard on us to hear 332 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: people say, oh no, you're not the Buffalo Bills again. 333 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: What they're saying the same thing now about the New 334 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Yon Patriots. Oh not that again. Everybody's against them. I 335 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: get that. I was part of it, even though we 336 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: didn't win any I get it. But the thing is, 337 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: how do you railly your troops? How? As Emmat said before, 338 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: there might be one leader that has to stand up 339 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: and be able to make sure everybody understands where you're 340 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: coming from. And I just hope everybody can understand it 341 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: with my strips now. But the thing is people got 342 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: to realize that you've gotta shrine yourself with good quality people, 343 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: with that work ethic that you have that you can 344 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: instill on to somebody that may not wake up with 345 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: that little, you know, chip on their shoulder and say, 346 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what I need to I need to do 347 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: it like more, leave you old chip. I don't want 348 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: people that I have to check them them, but in motivating, 349 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: I want shelf motivated people. And that's what we had 350 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: with about Frow buildings. Even though we didn't win, and 351 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: you know Super Bowls, we never ever gave up, and 352 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: we relied on each other to make sure that they 353 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: wrote to each every week to their tail. You know 354 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: what I say, Jim, to two folks that talk about 355 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the Bills losing four Superlowls, I look them squared and 356 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: I said, you don't understand how difficult it is to 357 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: get to one song, let alone to make it four straight. 358 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: These guys and see, this is just somebody sitting around 359 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: playing armchair quarterback, just talking having a conversation. At the 360 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, you guys played more football games 361 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: in the four year time frame than most teams did 362 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: the in the four year time frame because you went 363 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl when you was going to the 364 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: zoo bo some teams was at home resting, and you 365 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: went back. You know the mental strain on going back 366 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: and having that mental game everybody negativity. Yeah, that to me, 367 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: that is what That's a That's an amazing feat that 368 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: goes underneath the carpet because everybody want to talk about 369 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: winners and losers, and at the end of the day, 370 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: what you learned through that whole process and what people 371 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: missed in that whole process because they're so busy looking 372 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: at winners and losers, they miss the life lesson that 373 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: was right there in front of them, and they missed 374 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: that piece. And that's the part that that that for me, 375 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: when I look at the game, I look beyond some 376 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: of the stuff because most people are surface surface level deep. 377 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: And what I saw and what I experienced, even watching 378 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: you guys, is short of amazing when you sit back 379 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: and reflect on what it took to get there. I 380 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: had one final question for you guys, how has your 381 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: faith impacted you while you played and now in your life. 382 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: You gotta believe in something you know I think, um, 383 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in the church. My parents were 384 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: divorced when I was young, and my mom was always working, 385 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: so we didn't get the church a lot um. But 386 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I was around a bunch of guys in the NFL 387 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: who were good guys who because I was around guys 388 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: who beat their chests on Sundays but didn't live that way. 389 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: There were some guys like that who I didn't want 390 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: to be around. There's guys who didn't beat their chest 391 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: but lived the way that I thought they should live, 392 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. They lived their faith carried them 393 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: through life, but they didn't beat their chests walk around 394 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: telling people about it. And those are guys that wanted 395 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: to be around. And I tried to graviate, gravitate towards 396 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: those guys because I didn't know a lot about the 397 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: about the faith. UM in the NFL, you know, I 398 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about growing up and you try 399 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: to go to guys where I was curious about it. 400 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: But I always believe. And I think since I retired it, 401 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: we're started going to church more, trying to get my 402 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: kids involved stuff like that, and it's so much easier 403 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: to um, what's the word I'm looking for, just to 404 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: accept things and to accept people the way they are 405 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: when you believe in something and you know that there's 406 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: there's a higher meeting for all of us out there, 407 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm getting towards that point. But 408 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, football wise, I just I was never because 409 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I've seen so many things that I didn't agree with 410 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: when I when I was first in the league, and 411 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: I think I can put you away and it shouldn't 412 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: be that way, but that's the way it was for me, 413 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: and I agree because when I first came the league, 414 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic and um, I to me, to 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I was having to push on me, 416 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: and when it was pushed on me, I think the 417 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: morning it was pushed on me, the more scared me 418 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: away and didn't want to be a part of it. 419 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: As I continue to grow, I understood one thing. It's 420 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: not what you shay, it's how you shave it to somebody. 421 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: And I've learned that throughout life that whether you're a Christian, 422 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: your Catholic or pressbytern or whatever the case, maybe it's 423 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: how you approach something and how you you talk to them. 424 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: It's how you get them to believe your whether it's 425 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: about your faith, whether it's about your your health, whatever 426 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: your case. Maybe it's how you talk to people, it's 427 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: how you get people to join your team and understand 428 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. And they is like, I've always 429 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: predicated my life and on on believing in something that's 430 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: bigger than you. And that's always been Jesus Christ in 431 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: my life. And when I think about I'm just saying 432 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: talking about a legion. To me, a legion is hope 433 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: and you are a small god on this earth. When 434 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: you are a legion. I'm talking about all the guys 435 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: that came in NFL because everybody wants to either be 436 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: like you. You're giving them hope, You're giving them some 437 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: type of faith, right, And so for those guys, and 438 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: to go back to the old question, for those guys, 439 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: what they need to realize is they already were a 440 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: beacon of hope. So why don't they just turn the 441 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: novel a little bit and go back to what sort 442 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: of got them there? And what really got them there? 443 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Is that bite that that they have. Why don't they 444 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: try to just tap that back in and put themselves 445 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: back against the wall and see how much they can 446 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: push away from it. Because they already are beacon of hope. 447 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: So for me, like Christ has been really big in 448 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: my life because I mean, I lost, you know, three boys. 449 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Family was the biggest thing for all of us in here, 450 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: and year after year after year, every season, when you 451 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: look and you don't see your kids or no kids 452 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: on the sideline, or you don't see Holly and the 453 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: family on sideline, you think about, Mimi, I got all 454 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: this money, right, I got I can go do whatever 455 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I want to do, but I want family. I want 456 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: something that money can't buy. And it's something that's tangible 457 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: that I can leave back on this earth and say that, 458 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: you know what, that's what I left behind. That's that's 459 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: like my legacy I left behind. So that's like faith 460 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: has been really big for me because if you can 461 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: believe in something that you can't see, it's something that 462 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: you can carry around in your pocket wherever you go. 463 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: And that's people never realized. Thank you Mark. For me, 464 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: faith has been the foundation of everything that I stand on. 465 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: And even when I think back to being a child 466 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: and want to always played professional football. I always wanted 467 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: to play for the Dallas Cowboys. I never knew when 468 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: I would have a chance to do that. But in 469 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys were in the twentieth picks and and 470 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: I was projectedly going to top ten and it didn't happen. 471 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have a clue where I was gonna go. 472 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: All I knew is I didn't want to go to 473 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay, so so, I mean, green Bay was too 474 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: cool for me. But here's the here's the funny thing. 475 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: And though Jim's touched on it earlier, life has a 476 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: way of showing you glimpse or where you're going to be. 477 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I was a child thinking about landing 478 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, didn't know if it was gonna 479 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: happen or not. But in nineteen eighty seven I had 480 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: This is how faith plays a major part in my life, 481 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: because it just reinforced that I am a God, a 482 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: child of God, and I am predestined to do something. 483 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: In eight seven, I was named Gatoray Nation Football Player 484 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: of the Year, and I was afforded to airline tickets 485 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: to go to Pasadena, California to watch the Super Bowl. 486 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: I watched the Denver Broncos and and and and and 487 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, and I'm sitting up in that 488 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: stand and I'm saying, man, don't you know how it 489 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: is you round the game? You're all hyped up. I 490 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: want to play the Super Bowl and I want to 491 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: play in the stadium. Fast forward, I get drafted by 492 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys team I always want to play for. Three 493 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: years later, ninetee, we're playing in our very first Super 494 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Bowl in Pasadena, California, and it was the last super 495 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: Bowl ever played in Pasadena, California. Do you know all 496 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: my playing ride back in nineteen eight seven? Who I 497 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: met Jim Kelly Killing? That was a little same flight. 498 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm seventeen years old. He's playing with the Houston Gamblers. 499 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: We're flying through dog On, Houston to connect back into 500 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: Post of Colon. I get his autograph. He has no 501 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: clue who I am. And then we play. I played 502 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: my very first super Bowl against this man. So I say, 503 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: destiny being predestined, it's crazy. Therefore, you was predestined to 504 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: be here. You was predestined to be here. You was 505 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: predestined to be here, and so are you. You come 506 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: off a track and they put you in the football 507 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: uniform and you are Hall of Famer today. You're predestined 508 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: to do great things, and it doesn't just stop in football. 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: That's just my that's my take on faith, and all 510 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: five of us are truly blashed from start to finish. 511 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Yes man, this has been an incredible podcast. I want 512 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: to thank each and every one of you guys. It's uh. 513 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: If we listen together and work together, we can accomplish 514 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: incredible things. I'm Anius Williams. Thanks for listening. This has 515 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: been the NFL Legends podcast. To provide feedback or request 516 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: a topic for discussion, email us at NFL Legends at 517 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: NFL dot com m