WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Work Left To Do

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Priscilla Live. Lescott Pato, Welcome into Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>here on this March thirty first. It's a cloudy Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>morning and we are all remote instead of being inside

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<v Speaker 1>the SWBC Mortgage studios. It's a brand new edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys. Knell Yeoman's here alongside well, I guess alongside

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<v Speaker 1>heck my hair us and as he would be, to

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<v Speaker 1>my left, I've got Rob Phillips below me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in the caddy corner from where I am, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Serett joins Talking Cowboys. How are we doing, guys?

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<v Speaker 1>What an intro? That's cow for you? Man? I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>good about I'm doing good. Rob. How's it hanging down

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<v Speaker 1>there in quarantine? I know you've got a new baby

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, so it must be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>nice to stay home. I'm getting notifications on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak that her crib is detecting movement, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's asleep, so I think we're good. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad everybody is properly social distanced and doing well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that this next hour can be a nice

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<v Speaker 1>distraction for Cowboy fans for sure. Absolutely, and there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about as well, because there's some new additions

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dallas Cowboys, definitely some moves that could be

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<v Speaker 1>made over the next couple of weeks as we're closing

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<v Speaker 1>in Thursday marks three weeks from the NFL AFT and

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<v Speaker 1>then following that, who knows how this roster is going

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<v Speaker 1>to shape out before we head into training camp. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is a new group here here for Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited about it, and I want to wish the

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<v Speaker 1>best to Mickey's Pagnola, as we love having Mickey around

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us all in check, for sure, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>excited about his new show, mix Shots coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of days. I believe, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and get that started this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know he and Bill Jones are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a magnificent job on mix Shots. But with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and dive into this free agency update.

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<v Speaker 1>A trio of players that have been signed by the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys as free agents that have made some noise at

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<v Speaker 1>least since we last convened here on Talking Cowboys. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start with the defensive tackle position. Don Terry pos

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<v Speaker 1>signed by the Cowboys two years, two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, and this is an individual who had four

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<v Speaker 1>sacks last year. He's pretty solid in the past rush

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty second rated interior defensive lineman on Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Focus and just for reference for Pro Football Focus and

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<v Speaker 1>where that kind of lies is thirty second. That means

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the top at least starting guys. He's

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<v Speaker 1>listed as a starter on Pro Football Focus. But also

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<v Speaker 1>MALIEK Collins was a sixty five and that's probably who

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<v Speaker 1>he would be replacing, So that's just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>reference there. But Rob will start with you, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about this post signing and what does it

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<v Speaker 1>do to beef up that defensive line. Well, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>the football reference I use it. I know the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach uses it, Mike McCarthy. He kind of collaborated collaborated

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys last year while he was taking a

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<v Speaker 1>year off, so there is validity to it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the move because I do think at some point they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to address the size up front. And it requires

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<v Speaker 1>a philosophy change for this team. You know, Rod Marinelli

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<v Speaker 1>wanted those quicker, more athletic defensive linemen to get up

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<v Speaker 1>the field and penetrate trying to make plays in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that's still a part of it no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what size you are at the NFL level, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think some of the problems they've had in the run

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<v Speaker 1>defense has been attributed to their size upfront. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to find many defensive tackles, as you said, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>with the productivity of Don Terry Poe and including the

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<v Speaker 1>size that he brings up at three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds. And you know, when you go back and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this Cowboys defense and where they've struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been pretty good overall the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have good young players, They have good young linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they this stat just really jumped out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it right before we went on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>There are three and fourteen the last two years when

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<v Speaker 1>they've given up a hundred yards rushing or more. That

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<v Speaker 1>has been their calling card, stopping the run. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't done that, they have really struggled, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like the move up front. I think Gerald McCoy as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's agreed to a deal, gives them some more size,

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<v Speaker 1>some more versatility. And I think that's other part of

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<v Speaker 1>poles game maybe people don't know, is that he came

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<v Speaker 1>from a three four scheme in the past, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>also played a fourth three front, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in line with Mike Nolan's history too. Is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's coached multiple schemes and I think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going for here with this defense. Ama, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I man, I'm extremely excited about Don Terry Poe.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that coming out of Memphis was a

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<v Speaker 1>dog and definitely the production that he had in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>also in Atlanta and also in Carolina after well obviously

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<v Speaker 1>before the injury. But man, Don Terry Pole is big

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<v Speaker 1>for a person man three hundred and forty pounds. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he is all of that and what he's able to

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<v Speaker 1>do at the point of attack in the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a person that he's a guy that doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>up his chest, so you don't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>him getting pushed off of the line of scrimmage. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's able to do a lot of things for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy his size that you wouldn't necessarily accept, being able

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<v Speaker 1>to rip and sit and anchor himself down in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game, but also coming after quarterbacks, he pushes that

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<v Speaker 1>pocket in the middle and makes it literally impossible. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna that's what he's gonna create for the Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>making that pocket not so clean for four quarterbacks. And look, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that football has changed so much now where most of

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks are in a shotgun anyway, and so getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the quarterback and be having someone that can be

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<v Speaker 1>effective and also stopping the run. As as Rob alluded to,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys were just dreadful in the in the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we got slashed a lot, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>on those delayed draws and screens where we were really

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<v Speaker 1>liable because we had those smaller guys that were just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get up the field to create that rush.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now with the girth movement as I'm calling it,

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<v Speaker 1>with McCoy and Dune Terry Pole, you have guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are consummate professionals that also have that size to bring

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<v Speaker 1>on a delayed rush. But also, like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the size and athleticism of the dune Terry Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really that excitement. He has that ability to dip swim.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you said four sacks last year, and again

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<v Speaker 1>that was all about a guy like him collapse in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket and getting those that getting those pressures. Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Hack might have touched on all the techniques that

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<v Speaker 1>Poe brings. But I think something that's interesting too for

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<v Speaker 1>Poe and the other defensive tackle Jeremy McCoy, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll get to Kyle, is the leadership. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>are long time veterans, and I think that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really important on this defensive line because right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>only other starter that we know about is DeMarcus Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>really because we don't know about Tyrone Crawford coming off

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<v Speaker 1>those hip surgeries and or what's going to happen with

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory if he's going to be reinstated. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this veteran leadership is going to be really important

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<v Speaker 1>for the defensive line, especially with younger players. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about Tristan Hill. I would hope that these veterans

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to help him and other young players

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<v Speaker 1>progress and really bring that fire that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line was missing this last year, and to

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<v Speaker 1>touch Bay. When I think about the poor run defense,

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<v Speaker 1>all I can think about are all those quarterback runs

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty pretty miserable to think back on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited to have these two bigger defensive tackles

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<v Speaker 1>out on the line. Well, I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest winners with those with those Gaby runs, I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest winners though, out of these two signings,

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<v Speaker 1>both Don Terry Po and Gerald McCoury, and the linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>also because it really does free them up to have

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<v Speaker 1>two big, beefy bodies in the middle to that are

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<v Speaker 1>able to stop the run, that are able to even

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<v Speaker 1>present a little bit of pass rush. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lets the pressure off of those linebackers like a Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith or a Shan Lee. And we'll see if Laton

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderesh and his health comes back into plain later on.

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<v Speaker 1>But this kind of brings up the question of now,

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<v Speaker 1>with these two signings Poe McCoy, who's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>three technique and who's gonna be the one technique. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they played a little bit of both last year

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<v Speaker 1>in Carolina. I know that we've kind of talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it before with this this Mike Nolan led defense that

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a little bit of a hybrid. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna be pigeonholed into a four three or three four.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a little bit different back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>than you're gonna see some multiple in there. Defensively, But

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<v Speaker 1>if we were going to try and pigeonhole these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be the one technique and who's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the three because they could really play both, Yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say Poe is gonna be your one and McCoy is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be your three, just because some size alone, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna line up in that a gap between the center

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<v Speaker 1>and the guard. That's just his specialty. That's what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also versa little I mean, he has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in his tool belt that allows him to move

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside as well. And the Cowboys in the

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<v Speaker 1>past have done a lot of those stunts. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what Mike Nolan's gonna do to that regard,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would appear to me that done Terry Poe

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be your one in McCoy the three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you go to a three man line, you

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<v Speaker 1>know Poe can play, definitely play that zero technique, can

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<v Speaker 1>just be that true nose guard for you. Yeah. I've

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with Ecmo on that one. And I think and

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<v Speaker 1>I think McCoy's verstal enough too in a four man

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<v Speaker 1>line to kick out and play some some edge rusher

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I think that's one reason they like him too.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing though, I want to you know what, before

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<v Speaker 1>I would get to that, Danny made a good point

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<v Speaker 1>about Tristan Hill and how you know, he fit Rod

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<v Speaker 1>Marinelli's scheme on paper and it didn't work out last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting what Mike McCarthy said when he got

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<v Speaker 1>hired about it. If you're getting rid of good players

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<v Speaker 1>or not looking at good players because of your scheme alone,

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<v Speaker 1>then you got to look at your scheme. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what they're doing in the Cowboys front office

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<v Speaker 1>and coaching staff this past year, and trying to just

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<v Speaker 1>get good players and see how they how they fit

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of adapt the scheme to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe the Cowboys felt like they've been a

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<v Speaker 1>little too rigid in their scheme and maybe these guys

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<v Speaker 1>can bring a little bit more versatility. And again as

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<v Speaker 1>we watching the size upfront as well, Yeah, Danny d

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<v Speaker 1>was a great point also Danny again, Tristan Hill is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's become enigma attic in a very short

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<v Speaker 1>period of time for the Cowboys because of his draft

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<v Speaker 1>you know how how he was as a draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>and his lack of production. We didn't get to see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of him on film, but you know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's talent there. He's gonna be a guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we'll back up Jerald McCoy. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>again with Crawford what's going to happen as far as

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<v Speaker 1>next season this season because of the hip surgeries, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy that was a big part of the

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<v Speaker 1>leadership on the defensive line, and you saw that was

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<v Speaker 1>missing as far as the leadership that he bought to

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<v Speaker 1>that group. So I'm hoping that with the combination of

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<v Speaker 1>all of these veterans, Crawford, McCoy, and Pole, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make the difference for a young guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Hell because you saw last year he had some maturity issues. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I think go for Danny Good. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>too I do feel like it was a very unique

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<v Speaker 1>scenario for how we are all evaluating pill because he

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<v Speaker 1>was a second round draft pick, but the Cowboys traded

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<v Speaker 1>their first round draft pick for Amari Cooper to Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>so and the Cowboys I see was the first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course he would have liked to have seen

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<v Speaker 1>a little more from him in his rookie year last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say about the defensive tackle signing, something that

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<v Speaker 1>excites me is at the beginning of the off season,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire new coaching staff was available to the media,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I was talking with a defensive line coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Tomsula, something that stood out to meet was he

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<v Speaker 1>had said, you know, I want players where like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to look to me ready to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and take a break. So when I see that we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting these defensive lineman sign and I know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the research, I get excited because I know these

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be players who are going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to fight and they're not going to want to come

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<v Speaker 1>off the field. I like that that's the count of

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<v Speaker 1>player you need. You need some dogs up front that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to plow the line, free up those linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>and potentially win some battles in the trenches. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the edge of that defensive line a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later on with some scenarios, maybe even scenarios,

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<v Speaker 1>but also some draft prospects as well that could fill

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<v Speaker 1>that edge rusher spot. Moving on to the next signing

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<v Speaker 1>from last week, tight end Blake Bell. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that brings back bad memories for me because

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up a fan of the Baylor Bears. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Waco, and back in twenty thirteen, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the quarterback for Oklahoma and they called him the

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<v Speaker 1>Belldoz or one of my favorite nicknames in college football history.

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<v Speaker 1>The Belldozer just did everything that you couldn't stop. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess for OU, he just kind of plowed through the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's a tight end, though he was a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in college. He's been a tight end in the league

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<v Speaker 1>really since he entered. But this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>can do a lot of things. And Rob I saw

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday on one of the pieces on Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com somebody asked if this could be our Taysom Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, referring to the Saints quarterback. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's necessarily a great comparison, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who can do a lot of things for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really kind of clears up exactly where the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are going at that tight in spot. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I don't know if I snapped at

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<v Speaker 1>that mail back question, but I just didn't want I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want Taysom Hill. I don't want Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Bell to take Dak Prescott off the field. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the question was getting at, you know, because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen with Hill in New Orleans they found ways

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<v Speaker 1>to put him in at quarterback and take Drew Brees

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<v Speaker 1>off the field even in the playoffs. I think with

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<v Speaker 1>Dak he's versatile enough as and mobile enough where I

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<v Speaker 1>don't and especially given the amount of money they're eventually

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay him long term, that's just not a

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<v Speaker 1>viable scenario for me. Maybe if you're in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>he can do some of that belldozer stuff, that Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow lights stuff that he did in college. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think, and you know, Bucky Brooks had a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice scout he's our new resident scout essentially had a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice scouting report on him. This week or the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of days. And basically he's a capable tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, he's a capable blocker. That's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>line one for him, and especially in the run blocking

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<v Speaker 1>game because losing Jason Witten. That's something that he brought

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<v Speaker 1>to the table even late in his career. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he had a catch in the Super Bowl. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a capable receiver and a pass catcher. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like he can be a compliment, a nice

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<v Speaker 1>compliment to Blake Jarwin and what he's able to do

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<v Speaker 1>stretching the field vertically for them. Yeah, we got the

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<v Speaker 1>we got the Blake brothers, Blake and Blake and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta come up with we gotta coin a really

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<v Speaker 1>good nickname for these guys. Man. But I was I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about Blake Bell, and the reason being is

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that NFL defensive coordinators they spend all

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<v Speaker 1>of their time scheming and studying tendencies, and so anytime

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys tipped their hand on something that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>through personnel packages, they're gonna be able to you know, anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're basically dead in the water if they

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<v Speaker 1>can if there's any prediction to your offense. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we had when you saw the year when Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witten was out, we just didn't have that quintessential blocking

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<v Speaker 1>tight end. And that's where Blake Bell does provide as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's not a dominating bulldoz or blocker, but

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<v Speaker 1>he does give you enough where he can ship guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He can hold that one on one, win that battle.

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<v Speaker 1>But also as far as in the passing game, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end that can find you know, get skinny

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<v Speaker 1>and find that soft bubble and sit down and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make catches. Now there has been I guess the only

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<v Speaker 1>knock on him is just catching. He had three drops

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<v Speaker 1>last year, but man, he was playing behind an all

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<v Speaker 1>world tight end last you know, in Kansas City. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably didn't get the opportunities that he'll get here

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas. But I think that's a that's a quality

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<v Speaker 1>pick up with Blake Bell because of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that he can do. But I don't think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, again for Schultz, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pushing him. But I don't know if the Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 1>finished looking at tight ends either through draft off free

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<v Speaker 1>agency as well. Heck, but you brought up the point

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<v Speaker 1>that really excites me about Bell was playing behind Kelsey,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jarwin was playing behind Witten. And right now Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Jarwin is going to be the starter. But what excites

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<v Speaker 1>me the most about this is to finally see some

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<v Speaker 1>tight end competition. We loved what we saw from Blake

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<v Speaker 1>jar when he was explosive last year. He had great

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<v Speaker 1>yards after the catch, but Jason Winton was still the

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<v Speaker 1>guy because Jason Winn was here for sixteen years, and

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<v Speaker 1>while Winton was great in his own aspects, I am

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see some tight end competition. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Blake Bell, he's a big guy. He's like six

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<v Speaker 1>six six five. I mean, I'm excited to see, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in training camp, some competition in the tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>and see what he brings and how he elevates Darwin's game. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think absolutely he ends those Yeah. I think Schulzon,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jarwin. I think all of those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>in play here. Because if you think back to how

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy handled things in Green Bay, he used two

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<v Speaker 1>tight end sets quite a bit. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 1>really one of his staples up in Green Bay was

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<v Speaker 1>using a couple of tight ends, and right now you've

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<v Speaker 1>got two very capable ones. One's more of a receiving

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<v Speaker 1>threat in Blake Jarwin, and the other one's a great

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<v Speaker 1>pass blocker in Blake Bell. Now, Blake Bell still has

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<v Speaker 1>some holes in his game. He's of course going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a backup tight end for a reason. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is an underrating, underrated signing for the Cowboys overall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a guy who's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things for you. And like Danny said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a magnificent point. Is it brings in

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<v Speaker 1>some competition because right now, or at least before the signing,

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear number one is going to be Blake Jarwin.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is going to be Dalton Schultzen. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>clear separation between the two. Now you have Blake Bell

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to kind of challenge up toward Blake Jarwin

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<v Speaker 1>and see exactly how things work out with those two

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going at it. But talking about positional battles,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got one more signing to hit before we take

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<v Speaker 1>our first break, and it's a kicker battle. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's airline from the Los Angeles Rams now coming in

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<v Speaker 1>on a three year, seven and a half million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and I say it's a kicker battle, but guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of money for a guy who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get signed by the Cowboys and being a

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote battle with Kai for Bath. For Bath of

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<v Speaker 1>course being signed last year on the heels of the

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<v Speaker 1>release of Brett Maher, but he ended up going ten

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<v Speaker 1>for ten in terms of his field goals last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you turn around you have Greg Zerline, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit hurt, only played three games last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still at least before then was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top five kickers in the league. Kicker battle, Oh, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>what's a guy? I want a kicker battle. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. I think I think this team needs it now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if Kyle makes a good point, the reports

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<v Speaker 1>are it's it's two point two five guaranteed a million

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<v Speaker 1>for zero won to come here. And obviously he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a history of a John Fossil, the new special teams coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's important. I think it's important for your new

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff to have guys to they're comfortable with. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I would keep for Bath on the roster and go

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<v Speaker 1>to training camp and see how this thing shakes out,

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<v Speaker 1>because what you know, that's how Cowboys fans on Twitter shap,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scratching their head on this. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's great right now to have two

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<v Speaker 1>kickers on the roster. You go to camp and see

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<v Speaker 1>how things play out. Because the biggest complaints are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest complaints we got all of last preseason

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<v Speaker 1>and into the season, especially all the way into December,

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<v Speaker 1>was there's no contingency plan for Bred Maher And it

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<v Speaker 1>took ten misses on field goal attempts in the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season to finally make a change. And for Bath, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>came in and went ten for ten in the final

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<v Speaker 1>two games. They have a potential contingency plan here and

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't cost them a lot and guaranteed money if

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<v Speaker 1>they acide. You know, Okay, yeah, zero line's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and we move on from Kai for Bath. But they

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<v Speaker 1>have options, and that was the thing we kept hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, internally last year, was well, they just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>a lot out there in terms of alternatives for Rett Bahr,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just reached a point where you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>miss the playoffs and you've got to do something, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they've got a couple options here, Danny, what's the guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't This doesn't really surprise me because we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see enough of for Bath to have him to

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<v Speaker 1>have Cowboys fans know that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker this year, so this doesn't really surprise me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's exciting. This is something like Rab was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fans were nagging about all year, and so now

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<v Speaker 1>there's options. The Cowboys were thin on options last year

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<v Speaker 1>when they signed for Bat to replaced Brett Maher. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is also important because, like Rob was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is John Fossil's guy. They were with the Rams together,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that's important too. And I know

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.360
<v Speaker 1>special teams is obviously a big area the Cowboys really

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>struggled in last year or so, it doesn't surprise me

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that John Fossil is starting to get some guys he's

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<v Speaker 1>already comfortable with. So Kyle's yeah, sorry, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that zero Line, based on the money, is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy, and based on his history with Assile,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it is worth pointing out heck that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he was seventy three percent last year,

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<v Speaker 1>kicking had nine misses and that's the that was the

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<v Speaker 1>knock on bred Maher too. So right up there, he's

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<v Speaker 1>right up there. Yeah, he's got he's got a big

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<v Speaker 1>leg and he's made a lot of big kicks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been a proven guy. So, um, that's so that's

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<v Speaker 1>different than Maha in terms of resume. Heck yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I think it should be competition in

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<v Speaker 1>every position. I mean, obviously you can't there's a certain

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.440
<v Speaker 1>ze he's fine, and you know our offensive line in

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<v Speaker 1>the positions that you won't touch, But there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of positions on the Dallas Cowboys roster that need

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<v Speaker 1>to have some competition in the kicking game. If I'm

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Mike mccarthur, that's one of the things that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to lay my head on my pillow

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<v Speaker 1>at night, not having to worry about who my kicker

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<v Speaker 1>is on Sundays. And man, it just got to the

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>point last year where every time Maha took the field,

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<v Speaker 1>you just didn't know. And if you go back and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the games that we lost, those closed games

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that we lost, it was the difference between some of

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>those kicks make the difference between a ten and six

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<v Speaker 1>season or the eight and eight season that we've finished that,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I mean, for for Bath, I'm ticked off.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they gave this guy all this money and

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<v Speaker 1>know I want. I wanted to. We're gonna kick for this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna kick for our meals at the Star. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm look, I'm looking forward to it. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the right decision to make as far as bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in another veteran kicker or kicker that's gonna bring some competition.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't mind it at all. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't do anything but set yourself up for

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<v Speaker 1>success by having guys compete. Yeah, definitely competing between the

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<v Speaker 1>three signings from last week. And there's still plenty to

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<v Speaker 1>go until we see exactly how this roster is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pan out heading into training camp, whenever that may be.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have some new news at least over the

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<v Speaker 1>past week over Dak Prescott. We're gonna hit that when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, see how those contract negotiations are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To Talk in Cowboys, Rolling into segment number two here

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<v Speaker 1>on Talking Cowboys. Glad you're with us Rob Phillips below me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got a heck Ma Harrison to my left

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<v Speaker 1>and the great Danny Sirect down in the bottom right

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<v Speaker 1>hand corner of your screen on Kyle Yeoman's. As we

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<v Speaker 1>move on, let's talk about some of Dak Prescott's contract negotiations.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and the Cowboys still in conversation about the long

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<v Speaker 1>term deal despite the franchise tag already being placed. News

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<v Speaker 1>came out last night that those talks have continued all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up until now, and some of the offers

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<v Speaker 1>that have been on the table, at least reported by

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<v Speaker 1>Edwarder of ESPN, said that it would be more money

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<v Speaker 1>on average per year apy than any other player in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Now they're trying to figure out year and

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>contract structure. Of course, the deadlines July fifteenth for this deal,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but it kind of sets things up as what could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be a long term deal well before that deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of encouraging for those who want to get a

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<v Speaker 1>deal done and want to see Dak Prescott asked the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Cowboys moving forward, Heck, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start with you. Does this make you more confident in

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that a deal is going to get done

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<v Speaker 1>that there's still negotiation, there's more encouraging momentum heading that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, it's you know, we didn't want for this

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<v Speaker 1>to last as long. I mean for Cowboy Nation anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to make sure that you know that Dak

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be here for OTAs, and obviously with

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen that changes everything. As far as the offseason,

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know what it was essentially that Dak was

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<v Speaker 1>asking for. Was it the years, was it the money.

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<v Speaker 1>We understand now that it's not the money, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>years and being able to have a four year contract

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<v Speaker 1>and just having that business mind that Dak has for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, look, I want less years to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to the table again and you know,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty or thirty years old, thirty one years old to

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<v Speaker 1>renegotiate this thing. And you see guys getting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>smarter with this after the CBA and every all that

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>leverage that they have, And so I don't have a

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>problem with Dak exercising his leverage. What I want really

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 1>for me as a fan is for Dak to get

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<v Speaker 1>in get with Mike McCarthy and figure this thing out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm one of those people men that I've seen

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>guys get a payday and they just fall off the cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the rich Dak poor Dak comparison, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that Dak Prescott, I want

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<v Speaker 1>the same Dak and twenty three that came in for

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<v Speaker 1>after Romo was got hurt in Seattle. I want that

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>same guy. I want that same intensity. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that I have that I worry about what

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott is man, is that it is hunger going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there because Ben he is gonna go I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say rags to riches, But in comparison, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a lot more zeros in that bank

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<v Speaker 1>account once he signs his name on the dotted line. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about his motivation. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>just being around him the last few years, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he can name every guy that was drafted at the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback position ahead of him in twenty sixteen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that goes away even with money, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of his nature, the way he's wired. Heckno

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<v Speaker 1>brought up some great points in terms of the CBA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry the OTAs and whether those are going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen because of COVID nineteen, and that was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a question mark in terms of the franchise tag and

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>would dak show up. I think I've never really been

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about this getting done, certainly before July fifteenth, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're not sure the timeline too getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the years are and you're seeing this in the

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>NBA too, with guys being more aware of Okay, well,

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the salary caps are supposed to spike after this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sign a two year deal. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how the Cowboys have really operated in the past. If

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<v Speaker 1>you think about some of the contracts they've done in

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the past. Tyrann Smith, I think signed an eight year deal,

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 1>an eight year deal at one point. So but from

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<v Speaker 1>a business standpoint, you understand if that's if that is

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<v Speaker 1>the case, then it would allow dak On a shorter

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<v Speaker 1>deal to come back to the table, as Heckma mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've always felt confident that it would ultimately get

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<v Speaker 1>done because I do think the Cowboys value him long term.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that, even though it hasn't gotten done,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I wonder and I don't know this,

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<v Speaker 1>but given the highly uncertain economic climate right now because

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID nineteen, you know, would it would it make

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Dak think about, Okay, I want to get this finished.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to get this deal done. Maybe that's a factor.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I do think we'll see it

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement at some point, Rob, I agree with everything

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<v Speaker 1>you said. Every player has the highest regard for Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>in that locker room. I don't necessarily think his motivation

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<v Speaker 1>is going to change, and I don't have a problem

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>with him fighting for how many years he wants. This

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't something we see as much with quarterbacks as something

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>like running backs, And something we've seen really recently, as

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<v Speaker 1>recently as with Todd Gurley and the Rams cutting him,

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>is that players are understanding that there is this a business,

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, just as much as the team seat as

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a business for them, they need to see it as

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a business for themselves and looking after their own future.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't have a problem with Dak asking for

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe one less year than the Cowboys want to give him.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so confident this is going to get done.

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones has said from the very beginning that Dak

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Prescott is their guy. So I think they're gonna do

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes to get Prescott's signs so that he

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>can he can help take this team to the playoffs.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And they still think he's the guy to take him

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl. Hey, Kyle, I wanted to throw

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this out at you as well. I mean, you think

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>about the new the new place that we're in with

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this at nineteen and not having well we don't know

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>if we're not gonna have ots, but just say we

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>did not have or we had OTAs and Dad didn't

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>show up for OTAs. Can you imagine the media win

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>fall because again, a lot of his leverage goes away

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with that now that you know players are not going

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to be required are volunteer voluntarily told to come into

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the facilities for OTAs, and so he's avoiding a lot

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of that backlash or bad press if OTAs will be

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>canceled and he's able to get a deal done in between.

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Now in July fifteen, Yeah, that's a good point because

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you think about all the holdouts that have happened. If

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to hold out, then where does that leverage

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>July now, Because at that point you're starting to get

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>into game checks. If you're trying to hold out into games,

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you're losing money. And for Dad Prescott, of course, on

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the deal that he has, at least with a franchise tag,

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a good chunk of change that he would be

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>leaving on the table if would be a holdout or

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>something of that sort. I don't think that's even going

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to come to that. I don't think there's a holdout

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in store at all. I think a deal will get done.

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And kind of going back to something that that Danny

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>said just or kind of alluded to just a moment ago,

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but the fact that Dak Prescott knows his value and

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>these players know their value, it kind of reminds me

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of there was a Sports Illustrated article that was saying

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the value of being the Dallas or the quarterback for

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys, and I think Dak understands that better

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>than anybody else, especially in a climate and an economic

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>side of things then we've seen in the past. I mean,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you look, you turn on the TV and he's on

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Pepsi commercial sleep number, he's on Albertsons. It doesn't matter

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>all of these different sponsors, in these different endorsement deals,

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>have already been under his tutelage at least since he's

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>become the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. Now it's a

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>chance for him to kind of push forward and say,

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I've done my job. I've kept up my end of

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the bargain ever since I was drafted back twenty sixteen.

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's pay up. Then let's go try and win a

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>championship with me at the helm. And I think that's

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>something that's going to get done coming up over the

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>next couple of years. Now. We talked about the money

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and where the money is gonna lie, and it's been

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a topic of conversation all offseason long. When these next

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback deals get done, like a Deshaun Watson and a

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes, you're gonna see contracts start getting up into

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the forty millions. What would this money potentially look like?

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And Rob, I'm kind of turned into you as one

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of the insiders on this group, But is this something

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I know we've heard thirty three, thirty four, thirty five,

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>but with a shorter deal, is it gonna be even

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of knocking on the door of forty yet or

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>is that a little bit too far ahead? That's a

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>good question. I'm not sure financially how the structure will

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>ultimately look, but if you do have a longer term deal,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you're able to spread out some of that money, and

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably what the Cowboys are thinking in

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of, you know, if you're getting it upwards of

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>thirty five million, what tho what those capets are going

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to look like in year three, year four, year five.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's part of it. But you know, the other

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>side of it too, and I think we've discussed this

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>on previous show, is the new money that has to

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>come from the deal because these deals that we've seen

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>from wins and Golf with the Rams and Eagles, those

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>guys had larger salaries because they were first round draft picks,

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and so Dak being such a steal the last few

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>years in terms of fourth round status makes this a

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit more complicated. But again I think Heckma, Danny,

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think ultimately that's something they can work through,

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think the reports are probably right that it

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>does come down to how long does Dak want to

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>be tied to this deal before he can try to

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>cash it again? Because you're right, Kyle, the market's going

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to get reset certainly when Pat Mahomes signs his extension

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>with the Chiefs. Yeah, of course, man Mahome's agent, they're

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just waiting. They're waiting on Dak's deal to get done,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because Dak may be the highest paid quarterback in the

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>NFL for all of two weeks after he signs his deal,

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because you know that there's another contract looming. Not only

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with that, the market is going to get reset with

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Watson also, and you got to think about Lamar Jackson

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>if he's able to continue on the course that he's

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he's on in Baltimore. All of these things are going

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, markets setting contracts while all of

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks and I mean we're talking about forty million dollars. Man.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>We may look up here a year or two from

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>now and a guy may be at the fifty fifty

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>million dollar mark. Nothing is out of bounds anymore as

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>far as quarterback salaries. I think both both sides, Prescott

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>his agent, and you know the Cowboys front office are

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>aware of that. I would I find a heartily that's

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>on something they're thinking about in terms of how quickly

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>they do want to get this deal done, because they

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>know pretty much every year for the next couple of years.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>It seems this quarterback if the market's just going to

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>keep going out, you know it's gonna be reset with

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>every new quarterback signing. So you might as well get

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>this deal done now so that you're not happy to

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>continue to up the price of how much she's going

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to be asking for. It is amazing and made though.

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Rob, go ahead, Well I was going to

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 1>move on. It's amazing his salaries. I mean, four hundred

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand I think early on in two million last year.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>He's getting those endorsements from those those places like you're

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about Kyle, But there's nothing like one hundred plus

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>million dollars guaranteed on a new contract, right whatever, whatever

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be. If he's when he signs, it's

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like hitting the lottery. Whenever he finally gets

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that first paycheck. I remember when Deshaun Watson opened up

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>his first one. He said he like setting alarm for

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>three am, and then he woke up and was like,

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that's when that paycheck hit. And that was

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>still a rookie deal. So it's going to be even

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>bigger for Dak Prescott whenever that day actually does come around.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But still kind of talking through the quarterback situation and

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the contract situations around Dak Prescott. It's never a quiet

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>offseason whenever you're around the Dallas Cowboys, no doubt about it.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw in some scenarios for you guys coming

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>up next. We're gonna take a quick break right here.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>But when we come back, one of the biggest needs

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys this offseason our edge rushers. I've got

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple guys that potentially could be on the market

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that I think the Cowboys should at least make some

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>phone calls about. And we're gonna tell you about that

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.760
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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Tuesday afternoon. Hope everybody is staying safe out there

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<v Speaker 1>and sheltering in place like we are in our remote studios.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this is the remote SWBC Mortgage studios at

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<v Speaker 1>MA Harrison, Rob Phillips, Danny Siak. I'm Kyle Yeomans, And

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<v Speaker 1>as we go into this final segment, first I want

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to kind of allude to exactly how cap spaces there

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Cowboys right now and kind of what

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>they could do to fill some of those spots. And

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to get into some edge rush spots

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>there as well right now, including what it's going to

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>take to sign this Dallas Cowboys draft class. There's about

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and a half million dollars left in cap space,

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>which means that there could be some more additions on

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the way, whether that's to sign a Dak Prescott to

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a long term deal or to kind of maybe clear

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>up even some more space and get a bigger name

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in here. I don't think the Cowboys are done making deals,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>whether that be through the draft, whether that be through trades.

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>We saw last year Robert Quinn was a late trade

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in the off season between Miami and the Cowboys, and

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinn ended up being your best pass rusher. Now

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he's gone. There's a couple guys at edge that I

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>think could see a Robert Quinn type of deal, and

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to rely on you guys to tell me

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>if this is stupid or not, so I'm gonna go

0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>for it. And first guy that I really like overall

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>actually had some news come around today, and I like

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>this idea just because he's an incredible football player. I

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it would necessarily work, especially with the

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>money situation with the Cowboys, but let's go to Jacksonville,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yannick and Guackway, one of the top pass rushers, exactly

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>an edge rushers overall in the league, still just twenty

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>four years old. He's a guy you're gonna have to

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>turn around and pay pretty quickly. I believe he's on

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the franchise tag right now in Jacksonville. I don't know

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what it would take to get this guy, but it

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would be maybe less of a Robert Quinn type of

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>deal and more of a blockbuster type of deal. But

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly, like I said, how much it

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>would take to get him. But I think this is

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for the Cowboys to at least get him

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>on the phone and have some conversations with the Cowboys

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>about or excuse me, with the Jaguars about trying to

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>acquire a guy of his caliber. And I wanted to

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>see We'll start with you. Heckma, what do you look

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>at whenever you're trying to find a guy like Yannick

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and Walkway out of jack Villa and maybe try and

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>make a deal there. Yeah, and Doc Way gives me

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the willies. I mean, he's I mean, you know, I

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>understand the franchise tag, but again, man, he is the

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>beneficiary of a really good defensive front with Klais Campbell,

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know, anytime you're having that like we talked

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>about in the first segment, and anytime you got guys

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that collapse that pocket and make it really simple for

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy like in Doc Way to get those numbers

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>up and get pressures m You know again, you talked

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>about the deal that he's that he's expecting, and he's

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be upward in the twenty million dollar range

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. We already got that guy in the tank, Lauren,

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 1>So you know, look, we want a guy that's gonna

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>come in and fill in and be that piece on

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the tank that is serviceable and

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 1>and we don't have to break the bank to try

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to get You know again, I understand the athletic ability

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and the upside for in Doc Way as far as

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>his age, but I'd pass on him. I'm with you,

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Hackmed worried me to bring in a player where you

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna have to pay him a lot that

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>next year. I you know, you're right. We just played

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>paid to Marcus Lawrence a ton of money. The Cowboys

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>had to let Robert Quinn go, and so I think

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not looking for someone where you're going to have

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to break the bank on them after one season. It

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>was a different position, but I think that was when

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, you know, there were talks about maybe making

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a trade for Jamal Adams, but you know, he's gonna

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>need a new deal soon. I just those kind of

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>things kind of worry me about what kind of player

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>are you going to get for one year and having

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>them integrating and then all of a sudden, you're you know,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.959
<v Speaker 1>they want all this money. Yeah. I tend to agree,

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of the resources you have to give up,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys didn't want to. They don't like giving

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>up high draft picks. You know, Mary Cooper was an

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>exception because they were desperate basically mid season in twenty

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>eighteen to turn it around and try to make the playoffs.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not something they want to do a lot. I

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it would cost in this situation, but

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly more than a six round pick that she gave

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>up for Robert Quinn last year. And then the money

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 1>comes in as well. And there's a reason the Cowboys

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>have been pretty as usual, been pretty selective in what

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>they're doing in free agency because to your point, Kyle,

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>they've you know, they've got to pay Dak eventually long time,

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>even though that I guess that's slotted at a pretty

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>high level right now with the franchise tag being around

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty six something million. But you've also got to save

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a little money on your cap for your draft picks,

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and and so they you know, they've got seven picks

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 1>this year, and I think, you know, the preference would

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 1>be to try to hit something big there and then

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, have a player under relatively low cost control

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>for a while, as opposed to haven't turn around and

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>pay another big money deal soon. Yeah, I think Kyle's

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>computer frowze up. But if I know Kyle like I

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think I do, I'm gonna do a little bit of

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a noster damas here for Kyle. He would probably be

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>someone that would be interested in Cincinnati defensive being Carlos

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Dunlap that's been in the league fourteen years, coming off

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of a believe he's two years into his contract, and

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so that's a guy that the Cowboys could definitely sign

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. Carlos Dunlap has been a pro, a good

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>ten year pro guy out of Florida. Rob you may

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>know a little bit about Carlos Dunlap played in the

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Marvin Lewis system six six two d seventy pounds or so,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a guy that would fit in nicely, and we definitely

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to break the bank for a Carlos Dunlap. Yeah,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that probably seems a little more palatable. I mean,

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>at some point they've got to do They're gonna have

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to do something to help address that edge rusher spot.

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I alluded to it earlier with Gerald McCoy can play

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the edge. Tyrold Crawford certainly can

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>when he's healthy. Well, Randy Gregory, I guess, is still

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 1>out there. They still have his rights. If they can

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>figure out something with him and get him back off

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of suspension, that all remains to be seen. That's that's

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot to ask. I don't think you can count

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>on that. But you know, I think this discussion is

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>well founded because when you look at what the Cowboys

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>have done in the last three weeks or so, based

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>on what's left, I think, you know, quarter and edge

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>rusher to find find somebody to replace Robert Quinn. Have

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we got Kyle back? Do we know? I don't know,

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>he's frozen. He's just sitting there. It's like Mexican Joe.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just pretty weird. Danny, what's you got? Oh man,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this is great. Poor Kyle. I know he had some

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>really good questions too. I would hope that the Cowboys.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some good enough options for draft picks

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>looking at that edge rusher, but it's it's a tough call.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that will probably be one of their top

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>picks they use because we've seen in the past Cowboys

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>don't typically use those early picks for defensive backs, although

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a major area that Cowboys have a need for.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, the thing the thoughts I had, you know,

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>if you would have asked me a week out, ilud

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>have said, you know, you know, you know, defensive ends

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>probably their first pick, I would think. But then I'm thinking, well,

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you have Joe Looney. But but Travis Frederick ret hired.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are they going to do for a center?

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Like we you know, I mean, like we have a

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Hawk Clinton Dix now, but what are we going to

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>do for a defensive back? So I still think defensive

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>end is one of their top picks they're going to

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have to address in the draft. But I mean Honestly, guys,

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I think anything is a go at this point. Now,

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, guys, I'm back. I've I've made it back.

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>The computer froze up on me in the middle of

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that last question, so I couldn't hear anything of what

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys have been talking about. But I just heard

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>what you said at the end, Danny, and kind of

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 1>heard about exactly you were talking about how there are

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>some draft picks there are there is a need at

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher for the Dallas Cowboys. And if you look

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>right right on that right defensive end spot, you talk

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>about Tyrone Crawford being there, if Randy Gregory he's even

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be available, and then Jalen Jelks there maybe

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, there's there's a couple options, but

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you would think maybe a guy like a Carlos Dunlap

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>could be a particular Why are you guys laughing? Is this?

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys talk about this? I'm gonna go wow,

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>did heck mccallege. Look at being a boss, he goes

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>be better than anybody. But yeah, I think Carlos Dunlap

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>is a guy that you could potentially get for a

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fourth or fifth round pick. This is a guy who

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>was one of the top top twenty rated pass rushers

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>in the league last year, and he was right behind

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinn and DeMarcus Lawrence on Pro Football Focus. Lawrence

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was seventeenth, Quinn was eighteenth, and then Carlos Dunlap was nineteenth.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>He was higher than Jannick and Walkway. He was higher

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>than Jadavian Clowney. He has even as a veteran, he

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of presents on that edge. He's a

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>guy that if they wanted to have a draft target,

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm all over the Carlos Dunlap trade train. At least

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>let's give up a fourth or a fifth round pick

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and try and go get the guy. But I also

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's awesome to look at some of these edge rushers.

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>And the Draft show last Thursday brought up at edge

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>rusher and Klavan Chase, and that was the pick that

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys actually had at pick seventeen. He's at edge

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>rusher out of LSU, just a freakish athlete. And there

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>are a couple options there, whether it's a Chase on

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>or maybe a guy out of Penn State like Yedder

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Gross matos aj Epiness is another name out of Iowa.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>There are edge rushers there to Danny's point in the

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 1>draft that can make you excited at pick seventeen about

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>filling that spot. And then all of a sudden you've

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>got DeMarcus Lawrence, Gerald McCoy, don Terry Poe and then

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>insert draft pick name here, and all of a sudden

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>your defensive line is cooking. Yeah, Chase and I like

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I like him a lot, But again, all of that's

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna be contingent on where c J. Henderson falls. I mean,

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if CJ. Henderson is CJ from from Florida, is that

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>we got to take that guy and there are a

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of other picks and guys that may be raided

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ahead with the first pick. I am really and this

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is something the philosophy that I just have not like,

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, being a part of and that's best player

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>available because we have so many deficiencies on defense. But

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind being a part the best player available

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because I because I feel like, man, when you have

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a need, when you have a need on defense, like

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>when everyone start having the CJ. Lamb conversation, if cjla

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>if CD excuse me, CD Lamb, Yeah, if Cede Lamb

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is there, we take CD Lamb And I'm like, no,

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>how do we take CD Lamb when our cornerback. You know,

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start the season with Brown and Woozier and

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Louise Lewis we need a cornerback right now. But I understand,

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I completely get it. Best player available, and if Chason

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>is a guy that's there for us and he is

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the best player available, I wouldn't have a problem with

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>getting them. I'm with that on this. You've always got

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 1>to have need on some level in the draft. I mean,

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't take a quarterback in the first round just

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>because you might be the best guy on your board.

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think it would work out fine. Either edge

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>rusher or corner. It's got to be it's gotta be

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>one of those two in my opinion, based on what's

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>out there. To answer Danny's question, because we touched on

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it last week. With Travis Frederick retiring, I still think

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 1>they've got enough internally where they feel good about, you know,

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to replace him, whether it's Joe Looney just stepping

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>back in, or Connor McGovern as an option, even Connor Williams,

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.359
<v Speaker 1>who they think can play off five positions. They've got

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>enough flexibility, I think on the line where they don't

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>have to spend a high draft pick there. Yeah, I

0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think a high draft pick will be the offensive line.

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>It was just something where I was like, it feels

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's changing every week. I think maybe they'll use

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that first pick maybe for an edge rusher because as

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the run defense was just so poor last year, and

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I think if you can really secure this defensive line,

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that will in terms trickle down and help the rest

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of the defense. Yes, and so that I just I

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>think that's where they're going to end up making that

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>first pick at seventeen. And I think kind of going

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.240
<v Speaker 1>off of that, you look at some of the veteran

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>additions in that secondary. I mean, you resign guys like

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown, You've got a couple guys in Jordan Lewis

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and Shadobe a Woozier that could be solid corners. And

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>then at the safety position you've got woods in Haha,

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Clinton Dix now back there. What's a better way to

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>make them better is make your defensive line rutter. And

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.439
<v Speaker 1>they're beefing up the defensive line. That's exactly what they've

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>been doing all offseason long. And if they find an

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher, which I still think is one of the

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>better needs of this Cowboys defense. To your point, Danny,

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>if you go out and get a guy that's going

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to find a way to stop the run defensively, it

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>also makes your linebackers better, which in turn makes your

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 1>defense just as a whole better. I think that's an

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>underrated look at how they could really improve. I know

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of emphasis and trust me, draft Twitter has

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>been all over this. There's a lot of emphasis on

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the corners and the safeties. But one way to make

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone on your team better with one pick is finding

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a good edge rusher. And I think, yeah, looking for

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Kyle You're right, But at the same time, you know,

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>in the back half of our defense, we're even With

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the signing of of Clinton Dix. I like him, I think,

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and and a lot has been made about him being

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a bridge player, not a guy is gonna be a mainstay,

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>but a guy that's gonna get us through the season

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 1>till we get to the guy that we really want.

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 1>You've talked a lot about Antoine Winfield Jr. Being a

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>guy that could come in and impact this defense immediately,

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, being even if he's a strong safety. I

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>know last year, Cowboy Nation, we wanted Thomas. We know

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>we were crying for Jamal Adams players like that because

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.360
<v Speaker 1>we understand that we need a ball hawk. And with

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the secondary coach and Al Harris, that's exactly what he's

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 1>been preaching, saying that I want guys that touch the

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>ball every play, one way or another. And I'm just

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>not sold on what we're gonna do with Brown and

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Woozy A. Lewis and even Kennedy, And I believe the

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy signing was just special teams. I'm not saying that

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he won't be a viable option for us, but again,

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>we need those guys that, look, we don't have to

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 1>worry about him. He can be that lockdown corner. I believe,

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe honestly that Jones he was a beneficiary of

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact that everyone knew that the guy on the

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 1>other side of him was a little bit more susceptible

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and weaker, and so they attacked him. And with all

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that being said, I mean, byer Jones cash out based

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>off of that, but yeah he did. I mean, but

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we gotta we have to, we have to, and I

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 1>mean we talked of there's so much being made about

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper and the fact that you know he had

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.800
<v Speaker 1>where he was at at at and T Stadium. He

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>loved that home cook and he played his butt off.

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But then when you went on the road, he was

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it was horrible. Is a different and not horrible, but

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's had different numbers. That was the same for our

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>defense man. They did not pack the defense with them

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>when they landed as stadiums on the road, and it

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>consequently you go game by game by game where the

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>defense was just completely letting us down and giving up

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>those drives, and you know, at the end of the

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>second half, beginning of the third quarter, things like that

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 1>were just demoralizing and just killed the momentum where Dak

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Prescott was having to play a lot from behind and

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>just make miraculous throws and make plays to get us

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>back on the board. So we have got to finish

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this off because our defense last year, no matter what

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the numbers say, our defense played poorly. Here's the other

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 1>thing too, about the cornerback position. I know this can't

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>be the only factor when you're drafting, but you gotta

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>look long term to a certain degree, and I believe

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown's getting a new three year deal, but Cheeto,

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, and I believe Kennedy one year deals essentially

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>last year their deal. So you gotta look at what

0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>your cornerback position is gonna look like pass this season

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and need is I think they need another talented guy

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>there anyway, But you got to start looking at what

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 1>your roster is going to look back look like back

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>there in twenty twenty one too. I will say, here's

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the most exciting part is that for the first time

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in a decade, we have the new coaching staff, which

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>means that everything that has been a trend for the

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>last couple of draft years could be out the window.

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>So the back of the Cowboys haven't really prioritized defensive

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>back to the last couple of years. Early on in

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the draft that could be their first pick. That's a

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 1>great point, and you could talk about even coaching in general.

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at the way that we're going to

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 1>attack the fifty three man roster. It's going to be

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 1>completely different. It's breaking all of those norms that you're

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 1>used to seeing for the Cowboys, and I think a

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people forget about that because they've been so

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>concentrated on certain ways that the Cowboys operate, whether it

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 1>be with the new or the old coaching staff now

0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>moving in the new one, things are going to change,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you like it or not. Moving forward here for

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys, but I think that's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>here for Talking Cowboys. As we're running up on our time,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot is that is today? I think that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is crazy went buying a blink of an eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But hopefully over the past hour we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>entertain you enough during your respective quarantine and shelter in

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<v Speaker 1>place viewing, I guess, and listening here on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, it's been a whole lot of fun and

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to doing again next week. For heck Ma Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>for Danny Serek, and for Rod Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening to Talking Cowboys. Wash your hands. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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