1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Look, Podcast Playground. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: I'm Buzznight, the host of Taken a Walk, Music History 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: on Foot. Follow us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the podcast Playground, 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcast. And on this Taking 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: a Walk classic replay, the date July sixth, twenty twenty two. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: The place, the wonderful Greenwich Village area, where we met 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: up with a man who changed the face of rock 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 2: and roll. It's fair to say he was really part 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: of the invention of the punk rock movement. I had 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: so much fun meeting up with and walking with Danny Fields, 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: the original manager of Lou Reed and the Ramones. A 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: fascinating life he has led. And on this episode we'll 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: meet up with Danny Fields next on Taking. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: A Walk, Danny Fields, it's so nice to be taking 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: a walk with you in the lovely West Village. 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that used to be a little more racy and 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: avant garde and experimental and young and gay and olden eccentric. 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: We're on Famous tenth Street. Over there is Christopher Street, 19 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: which people conflate with gay liberation because it was a 20 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: cheesy block all the stone wall. Further on Christopher Street, 21 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 4: cell we we what in America it's called gay Pride 22 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 4: Day or something. In Germany it is Christopher Street Day CSD, 23 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: and they would say, oh are you here for CCHD, 24 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: and people go fuck Christopher Street Day. They named the 25 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 4: holiday after the dreadful Cystopher Street. 26 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: I wish there were more interesting people that are hearing everything. 27 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Not they're boring. 28 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: And you see uh nannies with a thousand dollars baby covers, 29 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: Jules to see mom and dad are all you know, 30 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: maybe a lot of money. 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: So it is way different obviously than the day. Oh god, 32 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: it's so different. 33 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: My first apartment in Green Village was ninety nine dollars 34 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: a month, and that was in the early nineteen sixty 35 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: a long time ago, but still ninety nine dollars. But 36 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: the medium for one bedroom in the half now is 37 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: four thousand a month. 38 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Right, do you do you like walking around still and 39 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: haven't got it off now you say it it's too much. 40 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: No, it's not too much, it's too nothing. It's yeah, 41 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 42 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: It's like and the need to all these little route 43 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: shops or designer and stuff. The street became high end 44 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: to shop and history. Yeah, you'll see the street is 45 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: falling into the earth. They do this a lot because 46 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: no street anymore. 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: This metal place. This on the next corner was the 48 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: famous pink or teacup where it sort of rock and 49 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: roll sort. 50 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: So the typical routine was was like started, what time 51 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: of the day when you when you would just go 52 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: hang and listen to music and hang with friends. 53 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: And oh that was so good because any office job 54 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: that involved in anything to do with show business or music, 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't come in child twelve one o'clock because I 56 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: had to. 57 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: Assume I was hanging out. That was just because I 58 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: can't really get up before you're anyhow. 59 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: This was Italian sort of second and third generation immigrants. 60 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: That was the village. 61 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: It's faint and here's it up for east Side and 62 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: it's not so busy, incredibly packed and all that supper 63 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: west Side. But the place to live now is way downtown. 64 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Where they're converting. 65 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: All office buildings into bigga parkments. To see that was open, 66 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: it's a big cafe. 67 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Sidewalk that whole. 68 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: Corner was gone. Thiures they're just boarded up. And the 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: reason I don't mean to sound snotty. You asked before 70 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: do I just go walking around? I mean, why to 71 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: see drug stores? And banks. I'm so spoiled and I'm 72 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: staying in soho. He just walked out and it was 73 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: a show better than a show that you paid a 74 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: lot of money for this here, but look at this 75 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: a bank. Yeah, John, I didn't want to claimed shares. 76 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: And the square is the center of the World's is 77 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: sharing the square? Is this like the center of the 78 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: world to you? 79 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Not to me? What year did you move to the village? 80 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: When I got out of Harvard Law School in nineteen 81 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: sixty Yeah, and I lived in a hotel that was 82 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: seventy dollars a month. 83 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: It was just off Washington Square far. 84 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: It were so I had to sleep with the toothpaste 85 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: under my pillow or else it would be frozen solid 86 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: in the morning. It's the Village Plaza hotel. Now it's 87 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: the Pasha apartment house the Village Plaza. And that's the 88 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: gay plot. Because here's the stone wall. 89 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: And this I'm sorry, Ganny. Right here, this is a 90 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: fairly notorious spot. Right this is Theda whatever. 91 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 4: I have never said put any I have no idea 92 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: what goes on, but it's still but you've heard it's here. 93 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: This happened to be the police that wasn't paying enough protection, 94 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: so the police raided it. The Dragon queens began protesting 95 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: and throwing things to say, this was a famous hickory store. Okay, 96 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: and little Red Wait, this is the best put to 97 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: see how the bricks Yep, he lived in that apartment. 98 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: Oh he did. Oh and one night after his concert 99 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: the bottom line, he brought home the tape of the commons. 100 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: I loved him very much. And I'm not saying anything 101 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: derogatory about lovers. I never would And I loved him 102 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: very much, and he was a three guy. We put 103 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: the tape on. The shows were all over Little All. 104 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: It's like one or two in the morning, and you 105 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: come by here. The windows were open. I swear the 106 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: speakers were pointed out. Who was listening through his performance 107 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: earlier that night? And it's always everybody else within the 108 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: square miles. This is quite charm village. It's all owned 109 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: by n YU. 110 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, most of this area, right. 111 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: I I'm missed with Brian and Brooke for a second 112 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: there and blocked on a thirty billion dollar expansion. Now 113 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: when I was in high school, and I want to 114 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: share you that building one fifthive. You don't have a 115 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: good story. 116 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: About Nyu was the when. 117 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: You couldn't if you had in Chinese school anymore, when 118 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: your parents wouldn't have said you out of town. 119 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: It was Nyu. 120 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: There was really for the bottom twenty percentile. If you 121 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: don't see busers all there are individuals. Are you seapousers. 122 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: There's a way that was subdivided. But a few of 123 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: these houses are intact as they were when they were 124 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: built for this was the summer you were here on 125 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: Wall Street. This was a suburb because it was a 126 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: mile or two miles by force of carriage. The East 127 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: Eighties where the Mayor's Mansion is now was once the 128 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: summer mansion of the Riker family. Now Rikers Island where 129 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: the prison is was the summer man. Here's some other one, 130 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: but going to the East eighties, it was five hours 131 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: really from Long Street. Yeah, so that was like your 132 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: weeknd in the country. Went to eightis Tree. Isn't that funny? 133 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: North of twenty third Street was really uptown under forty 134 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 4: second Street where the library is now as a reservoir, and. 135 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: You walked around the edge of it. 136 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: That was really a ship to the country. 137 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: We'll go back to when you were talking about how 138 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: in London. It's you know, things haven't really changed this dramatically. 139 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Why is that? 140 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: Well they have the little my gym that used to 141 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: close at eleven now closes a town So why that. 142 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: Oh well, we had very restrictive areas during the lockdown. Yes, 143 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: but it's over. So that was really nice heaving a 144 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: general but less for eleven. But there was a shrink. 145 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: When we went in December last year, the Christmas through 146 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: January to London, it seemed like seventy percent of London 147 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: was there. But of course all the big cities were 148 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: closed down. Restaurants were closed down, and none of them 149 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: ever knew that they would be able to tell them 150 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: again because oh knew what was happening. Right on their 151 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: corner was the Hotel Earl. It was really cheap. That's 152 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: where Rock and Roll bankst. Of course, this was the 153 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: village and there were probably thirty forty dollars a night. 154 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Now it's the Hotel Washington Square and it's like five 155 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: hundred dollars. This is a high end your mat restaurant. 156 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: These here on the north side of the square were 157 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: the private mansions of again people who were in business 158 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: finance downtown. This was pretty far North. This was why, okay, 159 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: we'll be acceptable. I think Henry James. Washington Square is 160 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: one of those imaginarily set in one of those first 161 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: two houses, see n y U. Yeah, yeah, this is 162 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: sort of a druggy corner, NYU. They say, who needs 163 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: a campus Washington Square? 164 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Has it always been that corner? Well? Has there always been? 165 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: The drug corner of the park over Park was park. 166 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: We couldn't walk down from there to there without a 167 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: five dollars bags by the still is to someone saying, 168 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: with a sort of suit, but these are mansions and 169 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: behind it, I'll share was the news. It's the sleepers. 170 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: This is what they do when they try to pretend 171 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: we are preserving the quality of the neighborhood. They tear 172 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: down a bunch of these and build that. So you're 173 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: supposed to think this is from eighteen. 174 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: To eleven, you know that. Oh look how it. 175 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: Blends in that these two hundred year all have. But 176 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: this was a splendid place to live. 177 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: The park is active, a lot of activity going out. 178 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: It was yeah, let's Washington School. Yeah. 179 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: This is David Field recorded having marijuana, which fused the 180 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: title there's no such thing. 181 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Does have a marijuana? Right? I mean, no one says that. 182 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: But I was reading in Time magazine an account of 183 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: a anti war protest that stormed into Grand Central Station, 184 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: and the writer of the argument of the article said, 185 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: a crowd of hippies burst in, singing, have a marijuana. 186 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: Well the song is I like marjuana. But he had 187 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: a little bit of a speech gift, so you go, 188 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: I'm a nana. So the guy said, singing, you have 189 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: a marijuana? And I said, there's the title of. 190 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: That was it? That was it? 191 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: It was goals a typo, I mean, a type as 192 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: a misrecord. 193 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: You see behind it. 194 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: The news with a little carriage has its for sure, 195 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, three or four million dollars. And someone lives 196 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: up there an apartment. Yeah, I don't know what his 197 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: title of Eleanor Roosevelt lived there. 198 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: They never they hardly ever lived to you know. But 199 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: she she lived over on that side, on that side. 200 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: She was where we and they built a special elevator 201 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: in case the president ever wanted to come and see 202 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: his wife's You were in New York. 203 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Apartment, and he used it once, I. 204 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: Take in the forty four campaign once to change really. 205 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had to pick up some shoes that. 206 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know always. 207 00:14:53,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: The sound you hear are skateboarders, your serious trashy. 208 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: This was never ere. This was completely illegally. 209 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: He could not sell the in Washington spret work three lockdown. 210 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm the loosening of everything, And you didn't know what 211 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: kind of world belt listens, what it's reme. It's like 212 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: a bizarre and on her. I'm oh, I'm not sure 213 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: they're going to beat the job. 214 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Fourth Street. 215 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: Oh I missed the part of Fourth Street between seven 216 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: and Hugs and which is where Bob was. 217 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Living when he wrote Pogitive with Purt Street. 218 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: So it was here till Washington Square South and then 219 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: it becomes Sports three together, but that is sports treem. 220 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Were there other concerts here besides David Peel? 221 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: It was not a concert this is I think there 222 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: was a song Washington Square where on Sundays, unaccompanied or 223 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: acoustic singers would sing in little crowds. I'm Washington Square 224 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: something like that. 225 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: That's up. 226 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: A songwriter finds his destiny in Washington Square. Once a 227 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: week he could come here and sing for free. And 228 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: so David was sort of by that tree. And that's 229 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: where I stopped and said, oh my god, this is 230 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: this is that album? And one of those lamp posts 231 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: is really the electricity? 232 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Could they pull that off today? But they're pulling off. 233 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: There's only drug sticking everything to a lamppot. 234 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: That's minor. That's state had wanted you to live. 235 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: Lobby with terrorists around each floor. They found out during 236 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: finals time everyone reading the past was jumping upide I 237 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: mean they cleaned up the bodies. It really was people 238 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: n y U students were jumping off to the happenings 239 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: in the best. Let's go look at the suicide jography. 240 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: See it's kind of pleasant toobo here. 241 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different. 242 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to see what they did. See the suicide. 243 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: See that metal fence that was never there. Saw at 244 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: finals time they were just kids flying off the balcony 245 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: to see the railing. It's only that hot. So that's 246 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: we need your tuition. So we're going to invest in defense. 247 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: Right there. 248 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: September seven, twenty eighteen, I was getting out of a taxi. 249 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 4: You can see my friend doing a poetry panel there, 250 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: I think, and my hand was on the door one 251 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: of those shores and he stepped on the accelerator. That 252 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: violence flying oh boy smashed this emergency surgery. 253 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: Be still haven't. 254 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: Gotten a penny, I know, and the lawyers we're working 255 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: on it because we expect to break anywhere, expect to 256 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: break fil drive a. 257 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Cab or own a cab without taking. 258 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: Out insurance on it. That's that's part of the way 259 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: you get your taxi owner of license. 260 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, how's it. 261 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: Feel well, it feels sucky. 262 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: We are now in past poetry. 263 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: It's one of those odd streets that are you know 264 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: in London the street will change James three times. Yeah, 265 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: this is still the twists and turns. It still remains 266 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: Sports Street is logic. 267 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: That's there are. 268 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: Three of farming houses looking like that piece of ship 269 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: and those with department houses that we're going to. 270 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: Have to put that in your south to drug he thought. 271 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: At the same time, Robert Moses was planning to build 272 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: a highway. 273 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: Through the square, and of course he was invested in 274 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: this building, financially. 275 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: Invested in the building putting a highway for Washington Square. 276 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: So the building that there was a partner in cony 277 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: for now command higher places. 278 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 4: This is Mercer's Street and where that gap is was 279 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: the Mercers Street Hotel, which is where the New York 280 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: Dolls played, and that was New York rock and roll. 281 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: And there was a scene and they played there once 282 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: every few weeks and they would get the coolest took 283 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: this wildest people, and there was the New York Dolls, 284 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: and we really loved them. It collapsed one day. It 285 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: just started to rumble. As it was the great society 286 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: hotel of the eighteen eighty six and anything unrse or 287 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 4: art center. It was really beautiful building. 288 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: That's not it. Yeah, that's another building, the building that 289 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: to the right and does not exist the bottom line. 290 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: Any particular anecdotes from from that. 291 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: It was wonderful that it was there. That's kind of 292 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: an ordeal sitting in your seat. 293 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Waiting away for this. 294 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: Already French fries make sure they know the record company's 295 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: picking up the girl. It was like that, here comes 296 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: the show that has to be over now, no more encore. 297 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: Interesting room was about the size and back. I'm sure 298 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: there are histories that say who played at the bottom line, 299 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: and it will be able too of every act that 300 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: broke in the seventies. 301 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember there was the Springsteen Show that Denny 302 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: WFM broadcast from there, which was sort of Pivotal for 303 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: his beginning. 304 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: This is the main business there or broader And these 305 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: were great office buildings. 306 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean look at the size of them, and you're. 307 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: A little great office buildings like now, let's save the story. 308 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: So these were them. 309 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: So whenever possible, there's still existing being turned into residential 310 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: loss with our ten year old. This is remember my building? Yep, 311 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: it's the same era. Oh, sorry to tell them all. 312 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 4: They they were big on arches, yep, well it's eighteen nineties, 313 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: eighteen els, books. Each one of these buildings was a 314 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: prize for your businesses, the rat market, prestige that you've 315 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: had building on Bible. And now they're good for nothing 316 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: but rich artists. Now the streets change games. Ray Jones 317 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: Street is third Street for some reason. 318 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: It's great. 319 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: True, it's like one there's no reason for it, but 320 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: could become across. These mobilities were cast iron fronts. They're 321 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: super protected. This considered one of the great heroes of 322 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: nineteenth century architecture was cast iron. 323 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: They all looked like the not so danny, what are 324 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: you doing these days other than walcome with me? 325 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: I got two guys there again organizing my archives. I 326 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: don't like the way the photographs or organize every drawer 327 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: in about eight filing cabinets had a huge folder called 328 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: M I S C. That's where everything went. Hey, that 329 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: was the opera House. Yeah, that's the New York Public Theater. 330 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: That's all. That's another here, it's all bothered. What's going on. 331 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: Lafayette Street becomes Fourth Avenue and that's another one of 332 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: those buildings unless it's the same Aunt Point just before exactly. 333 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: It was built by the same architecture who did my building. 334 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: And downstairs was a club falled it was like a cabaret. 335 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: John Rivers to play there, the Middler, and it was 336 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: like the very here comes the old Seamen's merchants. 337 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Old sea Merchant's house. 338 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: There's the building that was long ago designated for preservation. 339 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: So where has this old park of New York looked 340 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: like that? And that was a private house. 341 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 4: But now it was like, okay, here's the old merchancy 342 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: merchant's house. 343 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's always astonished as being what was there? 344 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Was there? 345 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: Oh no, I will never know something there. Now it's 346 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 4: like an awful little park. Catch yeah. 347 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: Now we've come to with our which is third out 348 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: of the year. But it's called the Vowerie round View. 349 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: This was the first street in America, the world or 350 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: something to have electric lights. 351 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: So we're really going back. This was a som. 352 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: Madonna lived on Fifth Street between here and the next block. 353 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: That was her first mook. 354 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 4: That would be on my tour this time we go 355 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: up and see her triplex was on Central Park. 356 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: Something that we loved was here. Thanksging about a garden. 357 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: It was lovely. It's great. 358 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: But this place, the Bowerie, would have been like always bombs, oh, bumpsinos, 359 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: bombs and lino. 360 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 5: Now it's choice story through or three. Oh okay, really 361 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 5: that's nice. They really know where they're working. 362 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: Run. Yes, nobody would come here. We've had a band 363 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: playing at CBS, which was in the next law. I 364 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: can't tell to that name. It's just drunks. I mean 365 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: not wild outlaws. They are fifteen. They're just drunks. No, 366 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: I can't go there through description. They always ask me 367 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 4: for money, or they're filthy, or they smell or was 368 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 4: the disgrace of New York. This was a good role. 369 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: So you have passed your archives on to Yale or 370 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: some of you, some of your armives seventy five Cartons. 371 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: They took three shipments from their land, and I look 372 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: around and I want to see any lot of space here. 373 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: Now you still have a few things. I never asked for. 374 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: My art, pretanding on roll, never asked for my photographs, 375 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: of which I'd be happy to give them visitized, because 376 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: they don't. They just want the record. There comes a 377 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: point where they like, it's a very original thing, like 378 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: the original tape. What's the tape? It's not like handmade? Okay, 379 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: so as old as you could get. This was a theater. 380 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: That wasn't very cool. Fucking Bond Street. The second Street, well. 381 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: I will show you cebe GV is now an extremely 382 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: pretentious t shirt story. 383 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Really you'll see. 384 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 4: Ramon's central. This is your your own way. You might 385 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: want to notice because this is Ramons, like this was 386 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 4: Ramone's territory. 387 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Here. That's the most stolen street sign in New York. 388 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: Look at that. 389 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: At one point they had so high you couldn't read it, 390 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: but you couldn't steal it either of sixth East Second 391 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: Street is where the Ramon's Archer Rector archeral Veda is. 392 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Very brilliant, wonderful lived that building with a white train 393 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: and the Romans would use it as the dressing room. 394 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: We pause. 395 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: The dressing room was the maybe that's okay, And there's 396 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: a shower curtain informat it so between sets or whatever. 397 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: They were gathering there, and they've all lived there in 398 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: their time. And this was an alley behind CBGB's is 399 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: like a delivery. There is a famous cemetery. I don't 400 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: even know if you could ever get in because is 401 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 4: so old. Oh but let's walk around the corner of Shoever, 402 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: the CBS universe was. 403 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: A little different than it was back then. I mean 404 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: it was smart. 405 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: People were finding barg and locks who weren't bothered by 406 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: trying to passed out on the side galop because they 407 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: can't really virtue. 408 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: And Laker. 409 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: That's the bend of Luker that I was a couple 410 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 4: of famous corner where you got out of your taxis 411 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: and went to CBS. 412 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: None of these storefronts existed then. I don't know what 413 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: they were. 414 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: These were out of like something, right, you know what 415 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: you see is the second floor and designed would say 416 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: Washington Hotel or Central Hotel or something. Well, they were 417 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: just cocksliming their bombs of twenty five cents a night 418 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: while cbbes it tries to pertend. Now in New York, 419 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: a few vacated space and someone else moves in. That 420 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with who was there before, but 421 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: they string to the myth of this itself is seri. 422 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: It's not CB's moved out under clothings moved in. 423 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Are you open? Are you open? 424 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: Contact? This was empty lots, so we were do our 425 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: pot stop. I'm al tier. This was an empty law 426 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: moms on the sidewalk. But you're getting ideas. Some of 427 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: the buildings are buried and some of them are nineteenth 428 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: century tenements like these. 429 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: They're george amazing. Okay, so. 430 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: These rich young marries, their parents bought them apartments here. 431 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: It's considered ration. That's good. This is the gallery. 432 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 4: This is the hollow at This is our turo vega. 433 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh was an artist and had lived over there. 434 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: And there was a very to your friend of the owner. 435 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: To take. 436 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for someone. 437 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: To say, Danny finally came. This became a sort of 438 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: the gallery for the CBS people. 439 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: Photographer and cool were the world filthy of. 440 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: Garbage ballad where I took Ramon's Rockets to Russia album 441 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: cover and this is you I knee deep and the 442 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: garbage and wraps. One of those was the stage load 443 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: and the equipment toward the CB James probably you could 444 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 4: see Archurro's apartment. This was a trick wall and they 445 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: leaning against it. There's a truck. Was Hilly Crystal was 446 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 4: in the moving district the movie. Yeah he moved, he 447 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: had a truck. It was part back here. 448 00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 449 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: He's a famous preature of the Ramons sitting on the 450 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: flap of the truck, surrounded by mounds of garbage. And 451 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: now it's change for fun and this is what the 452 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: future of New York Old strokes. 453 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: This was so disgusting. It's like if they said this is. 454 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: Bombay and go, oh, now I know what a real 455 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: slum looks like filth, but you didn't care. The trucks 456 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: filled up, you loaded into your tars, and people hang 457 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: out here because the backstage was too tiny. Second Street, 458 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: where Arturo is staying and where you used to be 459 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: able to see into the alley where I tucked the 460 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: Rouget Russia. Indeed, he lived at the building and Joey lived. 461 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: There, so. 462 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: It's Ramon's territory. Yeah, you won't see the trace of 463 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: the film War. You've got the cover of Almond. It 464 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: was alive with the filmoders. Okay, in the city in 465 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: front of brick wall theriall is not the Fillmods, but 466 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: somewhere in Georgia. 467 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: Oh boy. 468 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is still a vibrant neighborhood, as you can see. 469 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: Compared to where I live. This is what I would 470 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: call moderately the hybranted. Yeah, there are things all the where, 471 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: people walking around. It's civilized and pleasant. Yeah, it's a 472 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: lot of beautiful Elmore. The Auditorium, oh wow, from this 473 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 4: Berry Street was where Electra Records and Congract with w 474 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 4: n y U took over the Fillmore East for a 475 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 4: night in nineteen sixty eight to introduce the MC. 476 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Five to New York. Wow. 477 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: Okay, so the weeks before and they promised five hundred 478 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: tickets to above community. Okay, so block community had never 479 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: received its tickets. And they were angry, and they were 480 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: swarming here and it was mainly the motherfuckers. One of 481 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: the most extremely ugly people anyone who's ever seen. Okay, 482 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 4: the motherfuckers. And they would nurse their babies in the 483 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 4: theater seats and change diapers and telephone booths. They were 484 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 4: really disgusting. They were really angry. It was my responsibility 485 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 4: to get the MC five down here. So how do 486 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: you travel when you're had a band, you are a 487 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: level Well, it was like throwing anything decent into their faces. Yeah, 488 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 4: this was capitalist greed and horror was symbolized. 489 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Bakop. 490 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 4: Come on, that's how you go to funerals and weddings. 491 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: We take people around. It's not light limousine a band's limousine. 492 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: We rented a limousine because there's a lot of us 493 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: to get down here. So these people went wild wow, 494 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 4: and they stormed in. So that's the theater, that's all. 495 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: They stormed in. The sweet change and go stay in 496 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: your dressing room until this happily blows over. But the 497 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: evening disintegrated into a bad start for any. 498 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: W Electure records. 499 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 4: The MC five me you couldn't Jerty the Mother podcast 500 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 4: because they were so dirty to begin with. Look, those 501 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 4: five hundred tickets were found in the drawer of the 502 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: theater's manager. 503 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: He never did. 504 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 4: As much as we hate him, he was an asshole, 505 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: but he never did give them out because he didn't 506 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: like them shitting in the aisles. 507 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: Though he was a chairman. 508 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: He thought he could somehow not give them five hundred angry. 509 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: Ugly people. 510 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: They're pre tickets to this band of the revolution, and 511 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: so they were denied that. So they were on edge. 512 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 4: And then we pull up right here with the limo 513 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: and bucking hill goes. 514 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 1: Bill. 515 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: Graham claims he was hit over the head and his 516 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: nose broken by robbing chyme at the least thing with 517 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 4: the MC thought, who wouldn't step on an pne Okay, 518 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: the world's least violent and sweetest person who was up 519 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 4: in the jersey room. 520 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: So I had a. 521 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: Pass being press and where coming, and it was a 522 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: little yellow card and so this will admit the bearer 523 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 4: the time it was expired. 524 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay. So a few weeks later I went in to 525 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: see another band, the usual. 526 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 4: Business night, and outside Bill's office I said to his assistant, Oh, 527 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 4: I need this renewed, to do ask Bill to I 528 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 4: thought everything had been settled between Jack Haltzman and Graham 529 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 4: and Annie w And the car comes back torn and 530 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: through fuck you. 531 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: Bill Graham. Well, Dad, oh man, I know that's Danny, Danny, Danny. 532 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: The beautiful part about taking a walk with you is 533 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: you're not just telling a story. 534 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: You lived in the story. 535 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you know one hundred years old. You 536 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: lived sixth Street is Bill Graham Way? You see that 537 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 4: something I think that says Bay because of the Cold War. 538 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: Well, Danny, I told you we were going to do 539 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: a little Sautaria. We did a nice long walk. Oh yeah, 540 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean we did a lot of steps. How did 541 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: you cross? We never did uptown. Did you ever count 542 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: your photographs? Like? How many that you actually have is 543 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: at their houses? Yeah? Danny, it was such fun. Thank 544 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: you so much. Let's do it again. 545 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 4: I have to tell you about my last disaster was 546 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 4: one book. Yes prett will I hope so I busted 547 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: chour with non English speaking of Belgiums with blue hair, 548 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 4: who only wants her to know where Michael Johnson. 549 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: Thanks Danny, look okay, appreciate your generosity. 550 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Thank you very much. 551 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 552 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.