WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Back in Business 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:10.920 Cowboys. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:18.239 This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:19.600 World Course at. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.520 The Star in Frisco. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:28.080 Seconds dot T, touchdown and. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:34.520 Now your hosts Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:41.000 Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:45.040 It's a an Ota edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:49.559 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.120 in the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:54.640 the whole cast and crew ready for. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.040 You to rock today. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.880 Up, I hit, I hit the table and the mic 0:00:58.920 --> 0:00:59.320 went out. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.560 We've got Patrick Nosey Walker back in business. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:04.560 Welcome back, sir. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.400 It's been a couple of weeks, but Patrick is back 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.720 from VAK and he's ready to go. We've got Josh 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.480 Rodriguez back from Mission Impossible screenings and meeting Tom. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.200 Cruise and yeah, absolutely no. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.480 He was on the red carpet. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.480 Yeah, yeah, he was there your red carpet. Oh no, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.520 Tom was Tom. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.880 Cruise was here, Tom where he was trying barbecue, He 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.440 was doing all sorts of things. Now we were supposed 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:28.840 to go to a screening with him there. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.360 He canceled at the last minute. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.480 Makes sense, Only I didn't know that. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.399 You know, that is the first time I've ever heard 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.520 anybody refer to Tom Cruise as Tom. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.759 Tom, Thomas, Tommy. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.720 They're on the first name a big deal. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.840 You have kind of carte blanche to use whatever version 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.120 of Tom Cruise's name is. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.440 You like Thomas, If you will, kobd. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.400 We've got Tommy arras shupstairs. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.280 We've got Isaiah State back in the building, back on 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.400 this side of the planet. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.720 After your trip to Ghana, how was that? 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.680 It was good? Many trip? Yeah, and I went out 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.480 there just like four days, four day trip, quick turning 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.560 around quick, yeah, just a quick there and back. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.400 It's quick there and back. Man went out there, had 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.079 to take care of some business. And now I'm back 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:11.919 here with. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.960 Them, No biggie, just a quick hop to Gana. It's 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.440 the way you're down playing. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.200 Hop skipping a jump over. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.120 Listen, I have a puddle jump listen. I told, I 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.079 told this guy. I told Barry Church and Nate Newton. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.560 I vowed I made this statement last year, and I 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.120 actually I sent Barry a picture of me sitting I 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.359 was actually sitting on the beach, uh waiting buying time 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.080 before my flight because I had a ten pm flight. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.480 Right, So we were chilling on. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.079 The beach because you're right there at Akua, right on 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.399 the on the ocean front there. And I sent Barry 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.320 a picture. I was watching the show. I was watching 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.120 the podcast and I was listening, and I sent him 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.520 a picture. I was like, don't tell you. You can 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.200 never say your boy don't support you, right, he said, boy, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.160 he said, you told us last year that you were 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.519 going to be catching trips this year and you weren't playing. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.560 Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm listen. I'm finding out. This world 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.680 is large. It is and it is. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.840 I love the Us of A and I'm grateful, but 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:06.839 there is a lot to see. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.320 Got to get out in the sand. I got to 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.880 get out of the sandbox I have right now. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.360 I've had these blinders on for a long time and 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.600 I'm I'm taking them off. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.720 I'm putting on the buifocals now. Man, I'm trying to 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.320 see it all. So where's your next trip? I don't know. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.960 You've always wanted to go to like Japan? Right? I 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.959 went there? Well, you did go to I went to 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:24.600 Japan there. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.880 This is my second trip to Africa in the last 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.680 you know, third fourteen months. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.040 I don't know what's next. I have the Philippines on 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:32.400 my list. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.080 I have Australia was supposed to happen before my wife 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.440 and I actually got married, but she wanted to be 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.600 a flight attendant and that took presential time. But Australia, 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.040 I definitely want to do it, but I don't really 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.000 do all the dangerous stuff that's in Australia. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.000 You know, they have maybe New Zealand maybe. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.120 Maybe Have you ever been to Seattle? 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.880 I think Thailand? Thailand and Philippines are probably next up 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.320 on the list. Those are high. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.920 Have you ever been to Waco, Texas? I've been through. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.480 I'm through. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.120 You can go there with like very little money and 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.480 have an excellent time. Yeah, like you could be a 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.720 thousand diar like myself and live it up, live it large. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:07.000 Yeah. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.560 Well, I really want to go to Thailand, Like that's 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.600 very high on my list. But I did one of 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.920 those prepaid vacation things for Hawaii, so like I have 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.920 to do that like in the next year, so at. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.680 Some point I gotta take the family at some point. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.960 That's gonna be yes, Hawaii is definitely not all right. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.400 Well, glad to have you all back a little bit 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.120 since we've had the whole cast ready to ready to go, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.000 Miss Beam in the back to get into some some 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.880 OTA news and notes. The Cowboys started OTA's last week 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.800 last Monday, in fact, and as we alluded to last 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.080 weekend or last episode, uh, we only had the one 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.960 look and it came on Tuesday, and it came after 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:51.360 the show was recorded on Tuesday, because of course that's. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.960 How it always works with guess when we're going to get. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.919 A look this week after the show. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.640 So it does take a little bit of time to 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.359 to really get to see it. But Patrick, I know 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.880 you were out of town, but you were keeping up 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.040 very closely with it all. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:03.320 Yeah. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.000 Absolutely, And one thing that stuck out to me most 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:10.080 certainly is the budding chemistry and how quickly the chemistry 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.120 between Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens is kind of taken off. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.520 I'd love to see that Cede Lamb is so fully 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.320 embracing this trade. I mean, going back to a day 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.240 before it was announced. If you look at the kind 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.360 of subterfuge behind his tweet with that the waving hands 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.680 set right, and then you look at how you know 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.760 there's one thing for George Pickens to come in as 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.560 the new guy, and everybody's like, well, how's he going 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.760 to react to knowing that he's not the one, knowing 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.919 that at best he's the one B. Some people are 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.200 saying he's wr two, rightfully so, but then you have 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.920 the king on the throne and ceedee lamb come out 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.880 and say, we're both ones. You look over there and 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.800 you gotta one. You look over here and you gotta one. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.880 Which one do you want to that's the goal? Which 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.960 one do you want to have a problem with? So 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.159 I love that that's really standing out. I think that's 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.840 going to help them both hit the ground running very 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.920 quickly with Dak Prescott Dak and George Pickens. That chemistry 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.880 is starting to kind of take off quickly. I just 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.720 love that the cohesiveness. And then when you talk about 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.720 Brian Schottenheimer, one of the things that we all spoke 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.960 about was just how impressive Schottenheimer has been to this 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.200 point with all of his talking points. Every time he speaks, 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.640 rather be publicly or to us behind the scenes, it's 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.080 a home run swing every single time. But the question 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.560 was how would that translate on the field to be determined, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.440 But so far, with OTAs and veterans having now reported, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.599 you start to see people like one Yea Thomas go 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.880 to Twitter and say we're having fun again, right, So, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.760 when you start to see things like that, and Isaiah 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.159 spoke to this quite a bit over the past season 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.039 or two, the locker room chemistry, how players are reacting 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.480 to the coaching staff. There is this energy that's kind 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.440 of permeating throughout the locker room and throughout the coaching 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.680 staff that I would love to see that translate into wins, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.120 and hopefully it does. But again, with this next step 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:53.080 having been taken in OTAs, things are really really ratchetting up. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.919 And I love that the Cowboys front office has given 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.680 Shottenheimer a lot of firepower. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.720 It's something that the podcasts have talked about since run 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.160 Brian Schotenheimer's been the head coach, and like his press 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.440 conferences and like you said, every time he speaks, he 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.600 wins something. He's winning over the team, he's winning over 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.520 the press and everything like that. And you see a 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.000 lot that the Cowboys are winning the off season, like 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.360 in quotations, winning the off season My thing is like, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.320 this personality has a huge personality. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:20.840 He's very likable. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.200 But the thing is, if you go into the season 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.520 and you start losing games, that personality is going to 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:26.600 start to be like, all. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:27.760 Right, what are we doing here? 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.200 You know like it, you're going to call for more 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.360 professionalism and more Mike McCarthy is kind of a stoic leader. Yeah, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.640 whenever the chips are down, and my thing is like, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.840 as long as he's consistent, wish he has been this 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.960 whole time, You're going to see that. It might get 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.280 a little grading throughout the season if we're not playing 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:48.600 up to the caliber that we were. I mean, this 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.720 is a seven team, seven win team last season, so 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.320 you expect them to do really well. If it doesn't 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.400 go well, I don't want the narrative of Brian Schottenheimer 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.720 to be like, this guy's not taking any thing seriously. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.160 What is he doing playing ping pong with the players 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:03.480 for us? 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.040 That's why I chuckled a little bit there when Patrick 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.800 was talking about it too. Was because they are having 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.440 fun again and they're talking about it in the press conferences. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.120 Brian Schotneimer last week talked about how competition every day 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.800 that's been the theme of the off season competition every day, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.880 and they do it in little spurts, and they do 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.440 it even in themed games like the Masters and like 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.800 they did with the Kentucky Derby, And there are a 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.360 couple different things that they've done to kind of get 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.920 the guys engaged, get them competing. And then the free 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.959 throw shooting contest that we've heard about, different elements and 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.960 different contests. That's all great, that's all fine and dandy, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.320 and I love it because it helps build culture, and 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.040 it helps build camaraderie within the locker room, and it 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.640 helps everybody know that you are here to compete as 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.880 soon as you step in the building. But right now, 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.640 it's easy to do all that type of stuff when 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.360 you're not playing somebody on Sunday. And so at some 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.679 point there will be a switch. There's a flip of 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.079 the switch. Maybe it's training camp, maybe it's before then, 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.240 but at some point you're gonna have to flip the switch. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.440 And it's like, okay, at the free throw shooting contest, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.640 it's not May anymore. It's okay to do that in May. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.000 It's okay to have that type of mentality in May, because. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.520 I don't want the narrative to become what Joshu. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.440 Is alluding to there and what it has been in 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.040 the past when there have been ping pong tables in 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.960 the locker room, that it's all about that this is 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.040 just a byproduct of switching a culture what it is, 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.720 but you can't let it become a distraction. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.800 I think what I'm looking for to most obviously, you 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.640 don't want to see the Cowboys suffer any kind of 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.240 losing streak at all. I want to see them run 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.400 the table lift at all possible. Unlikely, you know, but 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.320 that's what you would love to see happen. My thing is, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.280 I want to see how Shottenheimer's Cowboys react to a 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.880 two game losing streak game. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.040 I don't want to see that. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.880 No, I don't want to I don't want to see 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.560 them suffer the losses. But this is the NFL, and 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.000 hard times arrive, and were going to see this time 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.320 and again with the Cowboys, be it injuries or just 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.400 the bounce of the ball or bad call you know, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.920 from the sidelines, or with the zebras, whatever the case 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.760 may be. When the Cowboys inevitably run up against adversity 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.000 this season, what does their bounce back look like. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.920 What does their shake back look like? Right? 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.080 Does the locker room remain together or do they start thinking, oh, well, 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.319 the paint poll table can't save us, now, you know 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.120 what I mean. So I do want to see how 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.439 that how that bounce back looks, because that's going to 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:30.080 determine what they look like in the long run. So okay, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.240 So too many people I believe are putting too much 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.160 emphasis on the things that are going underneath the umbrella 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.559 of this culture change talking about them and speaking on 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.160 the actual activities. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.080 Yeah, you know it's listen, y'all, it's the headline stuff. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.120 Listen, this is you've been playing this game your whole life. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.480 Okay, just because you're playing at the highest level doesn't 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.520 mean that all of a sudden fun should go away. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.400 Agree, and like people have to understand that. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.960 Like this whole and it is this really you know, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.040 to me correlates with the whole shut up and dribble 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.240 and you know, you know, saying be a professional, you 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.800 shouldn't have an opinion like why can't I have fun? 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.400 Like why why can I not have fun? Like he is. 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:12.480 Literally taking the blueprint from people that he's been underneath 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.200 who have been highly successful at what they do as 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.000 being a head coach. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.400 Oh yeah, Pete Carroll. Yeah, so this is literally he 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:20.040 has fun. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.319 Literally what happened when Pete Carroll was with Seattle, and 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.880 I would imagine it's the same thing with what the 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.320 Raiders are doing right now. When you're underneath Pete Carroll's lineage. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.680 When you go into the meeting rooms, they're putting pictures 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.240 of you from high school and college that are very 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.040 compromising in blackmail type photos. Everybody's laughing at you. The 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.400 cracking joke sounds like it coming from a come on man, absolutely, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.640 I can have stories upon stories about just laughing with 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.640 your teammates and competing. I've said this how many times now. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.760 When dan Quinn came in as a decordinator, What did 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.240 I tell you what was gonna happen? Competition, competition in 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.120 a culture change. What happened immediately? Competition competition in a 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.200 culture change. Where is dan Quinn underneath Pete Carroll? What 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.240 was he mimicking Carroll? It's the same thing. It just 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.920 so happens to be that this was now somebody who 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.760 was underneath coach McCarthy and now he doesn't have to 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.640 conform to anybody. This is him, this is me, This 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.560 is what I've always wanted to do. This is what 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.480 I told the Joneses that I was going to do, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.360 and they saw I would imagine that. I would imagine 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.000 that dan Quinn had an impact on Schottenheimer's ability to 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.520 become the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys because same 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.960 things that he was telling the Joneses, that Joneses saw 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.560 that through dan Quinn. So they already had a taste 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.800 of it. Right they lost dan Quinn. He went over 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.680 and started coaching Washington, So they already know what they had, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.920 they know what they lost, they know the impact that 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.640 that gentleman had. Now they know what they have, they 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.680 know what they did not want to lose, and they're 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.680 going to allow for him to execute the game plan 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.520 that he has said that he is going to come 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.040 out here and do. And that's exactly what's happening. He's 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.120 having fun, he's connected with the players. He's bringing down 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.040 this barrier, this wall barrier of player and coach that 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.000 says that we can't be on the same playing field. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.600 You have to just bark all the orders and I 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.920 just have to listen everything you say all the time. Yeah, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.880 that's the case, but it doesn't have to always be 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.079 in this type of gift rapping. So people need to 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.040 understand that there's different ways to coach. Dan Campbell coaches 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.680 a completely different way than a dog On Pete Carroll. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.720 Pete Carroll coaches a completely different way than the Bill 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.839 Belichick and oh and Tomlin and everybody else. There are 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.719 different approaches, different styles. This is good for this organization 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.040 at this time with these players. I've mentioned it many 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.240 times when who's I'm blanking out now? The decordinator that 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.600 came in, uh uh Zimmer, Mike Zimmer was there. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.160 I said what I said, I don't like it. You 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:36.839 guys remember that. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.640 So I don't like it for a number From a 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.280 personality standpoint, I said, I don't like it. I don't 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.960 believe that he's going to connect with the players the 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.199 way in which these players. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.040 He's not going to meet them where they are. That 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.520 was my thought process. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.760 Now he has some success with those guys, but I 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.880 still don't believe that he connected with those guys where 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.679 they are with this generation of player. Agree with this 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.000 generation of player is very hard to go with that 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.280 old school type of mentality not to say that you 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.520 can't be productive. I said that he would still be productive, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:08.000 but connecting and those guys playing for you completely different things. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.800 It doesn't It matters what you have in terms of 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.400 the personnel and the generation probably generational player. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:16.920 You have to meet these young guys where they're. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.640 At and you gotta you gotta play to their strengths. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.600 Teams like the Chiefs can have an old school mentality, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.720 and even Andy, I mean Andy Reid has fun. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:27.920 Different nugget commercials. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.520 Yeah, with his quarterback so exclusively wears Hawaiian shirts exactly, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.040 you know what I mean. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.160 Even that's kind of a mismatch of an example. The 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.160 old school mentality works sometimes, but it depends on who 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.040 the players are. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.960 And who you have. I think the type of player that. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.520 Brian Schottenheimer is trying to connect with are the ones 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.120 on the fifty three to ninety man roster that we're 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.760 going to have going into training camp that are on 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:54.640 the other side of the building. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:54.880 Yeah. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.880 First, I want to give Isaiah that that rant sensational brand. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.840 Wise section, and I love the comments section. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.640 The comments section back set up because they keep saying 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.800 the Pete Carroll comparison. I mean You're a guy who 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.920 played for Pete Carroll, was recruited by Pete Carroll. There's 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.960 a lot of connection there with Pete Carroll. And so 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.520 you seeing that that comp with Brian Schottenheimer is accurate. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.440 I mean that's you've been in this building, You've been 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:18.960 in that building. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.080 Yeah, And I want to make one comment before you 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.440 take this, because I'm sure you guys can run with this. Now, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:24.960 there's still there has to be a lot that has 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.640 to be proven in terms of the Pete Carroll lineage. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:28.680 Right in the NFL. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.080 Right, there's been four coaches to be head coaches that 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.720 have come from underneath the Pete Carroll umbrella, one of 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.360 which is Gus Bradley. I played for Gus Bradley also 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.960 in Jacksonville, same type of culture. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.000 Didn't work out, right. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.960 I'm not going to say that it should be completely comparable, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.440 but it didn't work out there for another of reasons. Okay, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.280 But I could tell you that the morale of the 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.720 team and everything else, the competitiveness was all there. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:51.160 Okay. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.560 Robert Sala came from underneath the Pete Carroll Lennax right, Well, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.360 we know he's one heck of a coach. Just didn't 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.880 pan out. There's a lot of things that were working 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.040 against him there, right, coordinator, you got a Jackville Jaguars. Okay, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.400 Usually if you guys get head coaching opportunities and you're 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.440 walking into a pretty terrible situation, right most of the time, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.920 not the case necessarily here, right, So Gus Bradley, Robert 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.680 solid those things didn't necessarily work out. Dave Canalis. Right, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.880 he's down in the Carolina trying to turn things around. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.800 You can see this offseason what they've done. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.880 It's turning. It's turning, it's turning down there. 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.800 That's not got midway through the season. Absolutely, it's definitely. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.120 He is finally being able to make decisions for himself 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.680 that he really wants to make it and you really 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.720 love him, love him. He's a freaking little offensive Jedi workhorse. Okay, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.560 So that's going to change down there, and you can 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.280 see it right with the personnel that's going down there. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.240 Guys are choosing to go play for him now, so 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.120 that's to be seen. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:39.520 Okay. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.480 So we have two guys that right haven't worked out 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.200 as head coaches, but great at their defensive coordinated positions. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.120 Dave Canalis, who were you know the jury's out, right, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.080 but we could see things are changing. And now you 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.120 have Brian schotten Harmer all right, sorry and dan Quinn. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.200 Dan Quinn, we know where dan Quinn is. So we're 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.160 kind of two and two, right, let's call it two 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.520 and two. Brian Schottenheimer's the tiebreaker. Okay, he's a tiebreaker, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.080 but he's all so the one who's walking into the 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.680 best situation. Oh absolutely, of all these coaches, of all 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.000 these coaches, he's walking into the best situation. Gus Bradley 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.080 was the worst situation. I would say Robert Solo was 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.880 right above him, right there, right nicka neck. Okay, then 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.320 you had dan Quinn, are they Dave Canile's where jury's out? 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.320 Dan Quinn, we know what he walked into and what 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.639 he was able to do. And now you have Brian Schottenheimer, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.280 who's come from this lineage, right, this is this umbrella tree, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.720 and obviously he's walking into the best, most talented situation. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.600 Possible with cornerstones on both sides of the ball, actually 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.720