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Speaker 1: All right, some roster moves. I know you guys talked
Speaker 1: about Bryce water coming back yesterday and it was all
Speaker 1: over the place for two days and he's finally he
Speaker 1: has finally signed with the Cowboys. They did release safety
Speaker 1: Tyree Robinson and I wanted to check in with you guys.
Speaker 1: How are you expecting what is expected to be Bryce
Speaker 1: Butler's role here? And I know, Jason Garrett kind of
Speaker 1: said he's gonna wait until to get him into practice
Speaker 1: and figure out what to do with him. But what
Speaker 1: is the expectation here? I have no expectations. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's number he's the fiftieth. He's the fiftieth receiver on
Speaker 1: this team right now. It feels like, um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jason Garrett was kind of talking about that today.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot more questions about this guy than
Speaker 1: you would expect from the seventh receiver on your roster
Speaker 1: because he used to be here kind of an acrimonious
Speaker 1: departure and they got six other guys. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: expect him to be like a starter right away. I
Speaker 1: probably expect him to mix in, probably do some of
Speaker 1: the stuff he did when he was here last time.
Speaker 1: Is a small percentage of snaps and hopefully some big
Speaker 1: plays that make it worth it. And we talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, Dak having problems throwing down the field and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, But when you go back and look
Speaker 1: at the past and those games that Bryce Bailer was in,
Speaker 1: from what I remember, he was one of the main
Speaker 1: guys that I was able to catch Dak's ball at
Speaker 1: the end of the field like down the field, So again,
Speaker 1: couldn't they start utilizing him more in those scenarios to where, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this is a guy that does kind of work
Speaker 1: with what Dak can do well. I think here's the
Speaker 1: thing for me. I look at this and I think
Speaker 1: the reason why Jason probably got all those questions and
Speaker 1: it kind of answers your question as well, is because
Speaker 1: everybody's probably sitting here saying, what changed. You entered the
Speaker 1: season thinking you didn't need this many wide receivers, and
Speaker 1: now you sign a receiver to add to it. And
Speaker 1: there may be more to the story. We'll keep watching
Speaker 1: this thing to see if more plays out here. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is, it just seems weird
Speaker 1: timing that all of a sudden, and it does beg
Speaker 1: the question. Are they saying that maybe they don't have
Speaker 1: enough receivers because they haven't gotten the production that they
Speaker 1: wanted out their receivers? Is it pointing to something bigger
Speaker 1: about what they think about their wide receiver group? And
Speaker 1: if so, how does he really solve that? Because what
Speaker 1: he's shown so far since he's since he's been here
Speaker 1: before was he's okay receiver. But I don't know that
Speaker 1: you rely on him necessarily, and they certainly weren't thinking
Speaker 1: that when they when they let him walk this past offseason. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I don't it's weird to me. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: just comes down to what they don't have around him.
Speaker 1: And and like you said, there might be more to
Speaker 1: the story. I bet you by the end of the week,
Speaker 1: this makes more sense than it does right now. And
Speaker 1: that's why it take. Things tend to happen around here,
Speaker 1: Like later we're like, ah, okay, and then it will
Speaker 1: make sense. They're bringing a guy that knows the offense
Speaker 1: and ken stretch the team, stretch the defense a little
Speaker 1: bit that yes, it would make sense in that context.
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, yeah, and I don't know Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett loves to do this thing where he looks
Speaker 1: at us like we're crazy. But I mean, you've been
Speaker 1: covering this team for twenty years. I've been here for
Speaker 1: this is my six Derek, You've been here forever. Like
Speaker 1: seven receivers and four tight ends on a team that
Speaker 1: wants to run the ball. I'm sorry it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, it does not make a ton of football sense.
Speaker 1: I think because you know when you throw a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff at the wall and you hope something sticks.
Speaker 1: Maybe hey, Quanta, nothing nothing works. I mean of those
Speaker 1: eleven players. Of those eleven players, how many would would
Speaker 1: the Packers want on their team? Three? Maybe they'd take Gallop.
Speaker 1: They would probably have just thrown right, I don't probably not, Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I know more than three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Gallop, Hearns could find a job. Hearns well, I
Speaker 1: was thinking a green Bay specifically. I just threw them
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know. I'm just saying, but Green
Speaker 1: Bay employees a similar method now here. I mean they
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but they might take a few. I man, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but the green The Packers are a team that has
Speaker 1: I think, kind of this type of philosophy. Like I
Speaker 1: think they take receivers that they feel like are not
Speaker 1: necessarily the top receivers in the league. Their receivers that
Speaker 1: they feel like are pretty good that with Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: they can be great, right, And I don't think they're
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think they're closer to what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do than they are a team like say Atlanta,
Speaker 1: where they go for trying to get as good A
Speaker 1: receivers as they possibly can, starting with that top guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I mean Garrett said this too.
Speaker 1: Is I mean, no guarantee Bryce even dresses this week.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how that shakes out. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can afford seven receivers on your roster, you
Speaker 1: certainly can't afford seven to dress for game day, I
Speaker 1: would think. And Bryce Butler's not a special team's savant,
Speaker 1: so I don't know something to watch. Should just sit Terrence?
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point when when you're paying a guy,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he plays or not. True, they
Speaker 1: basically are anyway, with the number of snaps that he's getting, right,
Speaker 1: I would rather just have a cold that could run,
Speaker 1: you know, down the field a little bit better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. And again, we don't know about the possible suspension.
Speaker 1: As far as I know, I haven't heard anything regarding that,
Speaker 1: if that's really going to happen, if so, when, or
Speaker 1: anything in regards to Terrence Williams. And if it is,
Speaker 1: maybe this is something that Okay, you do sit Terrence
Speaker 1: down and just let Bryce get right after it. But
Speaker 1: think about it, this is the NFL, so anytime a
Speaker 1: player gets in trouble at any point, then you kind
Speaker 1: of sit with bated breath, like, when is the NFL
Speaker 1: going to do anything? Is the NFL going to do anything?
Speaker 1: When are they going to do anything? Right? How long
Speaker 1: did it take before they get put something, you know,
Speaker 1: actually sent sent down a ruling on Ezekiel Elliott. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's my expectation when that thing first happened with Terrence
Speaker 1: was he's playing this year, maybe by next year. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they come up with something who knows. And that's the
Speaker 1: nature of the NFL and where they are right now.
Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of a little bit maybe
Speaker 1: early to kind of go there. But I do think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to always keep that in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind because he did end up in
Speaker 1: trouble in the office at some point, the NFL is
Speaker 1: coming back on that. That's the only thing that you
Speaker 1: can come at least to meet to my mind, as
Speaker 1: far as like why did they even make this move?
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to get my head around it and
Speaker 1: understand why was this move necessary? And the only thing
Speaker 1: that pops up is Okay, well, maybe this is gonna happen,
Speaker 1: or maybe they know that it's about to happen, and
Speaker 1: you um feeling that spot with Bryce and I just
Speaker 1: spill all over my laptop. Sorry, Now, honestly, again, we
Speaker 1: don't know, don't You just don't know. And and with
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, you just wait for the NFL
Speaker 1: because the NFL is on its own timetable and you
Speaker 1: just never know when and what they're going to come
Speaker 1: back with. When it comes to those kind of things,
Speaker 1: we'll see. And now another thing that Jason Garrett talked
Speaker 1: about was Randy Gregory, Xavier Woods, and Dayton Jones. He
Speaker 1: said that he's expecting them to be on a limited
Speaker 1: basis in practice. So with these three guys, any hopes
Speaker 1: that any of those three would actually play this weekend.
Speaker 1: I don't think you cut Tyree Robinson unless you're pretty
Speaker 1: confident not that, and he has not done anything. But
Speaker 1: just from a number standpoint, you don't cut your safety
Speaker 1: depth if you don't feel pretty good that Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: can play this weekend. So yeah, I feel good about him.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel cautiously optimistic about Randy head injuries
Speaker 1: odds we always say are a little bit different. But
Speaker 1: I got into practice, He got into practice last week.
Speaker 1: What glad you said that about Xavier Woods, because right now,
Speaker 1: if fancied that they just cut safety Tyree Robinson and
Speaker 1: that's it, they didn't do anything else. They just cut
Speaker 1: a safety as they head into this third game of
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, it's leading them to speculate that,
Speaker 1: let's see, you didn't add a safety yet, maybe you
Speaker 1: will after the Are you saying to making room they
Speaker 1: need an extra seat on the plane. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying is is I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said you mentioned that this is for a Zavier Woods.
Speaker 1: It's not for another reason. But when you cut a
Speaker 1: safety and you're like, wait a second, I would hope
Speaker 1: that fans would take a closer look at the roster
Speaker 1: because you still you have four. Now you have been
Speaker 1: listening all along, the fans have hopefully been listening to
Speaker 1: this show all along, and hopefully you have been following
Speaker 1: along to know that I would hope five safeties is
Speaker 1: something this team has done before, but they prefer for
Speaker 1: not with sound receivers and four tight ends. You're right, Actually,
Speaker 1: you're right. This is not the week for me to well,
Speaker 1: this is what they've always done, because forget they only
Speaker 1: have two running backs that I mean to tailbacks. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett got asked this question today. Todd Archer, the inimitable
Speaker 1: Todd Archers is like, you got a center who can't play,
Speaker 1: you got you got seven receivers, you got four tight ends,
Speaker 1: you got a third quarterback? Like, how do you juggle
Speaker 1: all this? Basically? Like you got about your long everywhere.
Speaker 1: You got about five guys who are not doing you
Speaker 1: any good right now. And I mean, Garrett didn't really
Speaker 1: answer it, but I'm just saying, a couple of lemonades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a couple of lemonade discussion. Uh, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's interesting, but yeah, so I feel good. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to think about Dayton Jones yet. We'll see
Speaker 1: how he goes. But Randy and Xavier, I'm optimistic that
Speaker 1: they'll both be able to suit up. Honestly, until I
Speaker 1: see Randy back out there, I would be cautious just
Speaker 1: because once again, we saw this whole thing play out
Speaker 1: last year with a concussion type situation, and yeah, so
Speaker 1: you just never know. I mean, those are a whole
Speaker 1: day Randy to play. I don't care what I don't
Speaker 1: care what we thought about that to play. All I
Speaker 1: know is when it comes to head injuries in the
Speaker 1: NFL today, you can't predict that stuff. And so until
Speaker 1: you see him back out there, if I were fans
Speaker 1: out there listening, I would wait with kind of with
Speaker 1: cautious optimism. You're going to be cautious optimism because he's
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and you never know what could happen with
Speaker 1: him because he's been that type of player that it's
Speaker 1: always something. But he was cleared to practice last week.
Speaker 1: In terms of the concussion, he was cleared to practice.
Speaker 1: They just didn't. He hadn't practiced all week. They just
Speaker 1: decided not to play him. But I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I think you can always say, well, I'll wait and
Speaker 1: see until he gets there. But I mean, as far
Speaker 1: as concussion goes, he has been cleared. That's something that
Speaker 1: other players last year. When was he cleared last week?
Speaker 1: Was it on he was limited on Friday? He did
Speaker 1: practice though they wouldn't put you in a helmet if
Speaker 1: you weren't. I guess that's my question, like when you're
Speaker 1: when you're clear, does that mean that you're completely healthy
Speaker 1: to be able to resume, And if so, why would
Speaker 1: he be limited Because he took the rest of the
Speaker 1: week off. I also had a knee injury, and he
Speaker 1: also had a knee injury. Ye, so there's another injury
Speaker 1: that's involved here. Yeah, I mean, but as far as
Speaker 1: concussion goes, he was cleared about it. Oh yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, when we've talked about his concussion, I
Speaker 1: don't think we've talked much about his knee and tweet
Speaker 1: well because he came back from the knee injury in
Speaker 1: the same game, right, Yeah, what's we'regotting about? You know?
Speaker 1: It was okay? Yeah, so yeah, Russell Wilson is a freak.
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Speaker 1: freak to get a freak. Yeah. Basically, all right, well,
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Speaker 1: the break all right now, I'm really excited about this
Speaker 1: segment because although I don't like the Seahawks, I am
Speaker 1: a fan of Russell Wilson. I enjoy what he does
Speaker 1: in some kind of way, but maybe not this weekend.
Speaker 1: Why don't you like to Seahawks? I just don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't like. They're not in the division. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just don't like them. Okay, sometimes they their defense
Speaker 1: plays a little too aggressive for my liking, and I
Speaker 1: don't like that. Is the first time I've ever heard
Speaker 1: somebody say a defense was too aggressive. That's that's interesting
Speaker 1: because it's not my defense, So why would I want
Speaker 1: it to be? A? Does it every week? A good point?
Speaker 1: All the NFL does that? Yea? All right, So Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson and you're gonna give us our scouting report. But
Speaker 1: before we get into a you were talking, we were
Speaker 1: talking all about Randy Gregory and all that. How necessary
Speaker 1: is to have Randy Gregory out there? Or based on
Speaker 1: what we saw, um with what the Cowboys died with
Speaker 1: their defensive line last weekend? Are they Okay? It would
Speaker 1: be based Russell Wilson, It would be nice to have him,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that they need him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at I was gonna. I was gonna nitpick
Speaker 1: you for a second there and say like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's the Seattle offense. It's not Russell Wilson. But
Speaker 1: it is actually like, it's Russell Wilson. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say karmas a B because Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: seems like a great dude. I he's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite players to watch. I got nothing against the guy, um,
Speaker 1: but it's funny how his career has gone full cycle
Speaker 1: from when he got here, when he was the most
Speaker 1: underpaid asset in football and had talent at every position.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, Max Unger. I don't germ Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1: When he was much younger. He had Jimmy Graham for
Speaker 1: a while, and he makes a lot of money now
Speaker 1: and all those guys are gone. Like, he does not
Speaker 1: have a ton of help on this team, and it
Speaker 1: is evident when you watch them. So you got Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: His left tackle is Dwayne Brown, who they traded for
Speaker 1: from Houston, easily their best offensive lineman. Ethan Posic, an
Speaker 1: LSU guy at left guard, Justin Burrett center, Dj Flukers
Speaker 1: their preferred starter at right guard, but it's been Jr.
Speaker 1: It was j R. Sweezy last week. And then your
Speaker 1: right tackle is Germaine if Fettie. Two young guys at
Speaker 1: tight end in Nick Vanette and Will Disley. About nineteen
Speaker 1: running backs that we can get into. Doug Baldwin has
Speaker 1: been hurt, Brandon Marshall is your one, Tyler Lockett has
Speaker 1: been playing in Doug spot. And then you got two
Speaker 1: late round draft picks at receiver David Moore and Jeron Brown,
Speaker 1: which I don't know how many how many of those
Speaker 1: guys would you classify as household names Doug Baldwin and
Speaker 1: maybe and he's not playing Marshall for sure. Well, Brandon Marks,
Speaker 1: which one of my favorite and in my opinion, most
Speaker 1: underrated receivers in of all time. Really yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: he's on the way out. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: This is not this is not Denver, Miami or even
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Brandon Marshall. Um, But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: if you, I mean, we're lucky that the Seahawks just
Speaker 1: played a game on Monday night. You saw it. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Bears completely overwhelmed them, and the Broncos overwhelmed them
Speaker 1: the week before that. And typically I would say, like, well,
Speaker 1: those are two of the most fierce pass rushes in
Speaker 1: in football. Well, the Cowboys are tied for the lead
Speaker 1: in sacks right now with the Bears, they look pretty
Speaker 1: fierce in their own right. And I think if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys want to win this game, they gotta do it again.
Speaker 1: They gotta overwhelm them. And I know Russell Wilson's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a challenge than Eli Manning, but
Speaker 1: again they it has proven you can get to him.
Speaker 1: He's been sacked eleven times in two weeks. When he
Speaker 1: tries to stay in the pocket, he is usual sol
Speaker 1: it just hasn't happened for him. Like the Seahawks by
Speaker 1: necessity basically have to use a lot of quick routes
Speaker 1: or they have to scheme up ways to get him
Speaker 1: out of the pocket. And we've seen them do that
Speaker 1: when they play the Cowboys. You know they do like
Speaker 1: the if not play action then misdirection where you know
Speaker 1: they get the line to shift and he goes the
Speaker 1: other way and basically just creates a pocket out of space.
Speaker 1: Like they got to do stuff like that to give
Speaker 1: him time because if he's just standing back there, he
Speaker 1: usually gets mobbed. I don't think the Seahawks running game
Speaker 1: is terrible. It doesn't reflect because they just don't do
Speaker 1: it that much. Because they fall behind Chris Carson is
Speaker 1: averaging like six yards per carry. I have no idea
Speaker 1: why the Cowboy, I mean, the Seahawks don't want to
Speaker 1: use him. He only got six touches in the Bears game,
Speaker 1: but he's impressive. He's straight up leaped over a cornerback
Speaker 1: in the season opener against Denver, like better, a better
Speaker 1: leap than I've ever seen Zeke do because he landed
Speaker 1: on his feet and kept running. He's a talented guy.
Speaker 1: They got Rashad Penny, who doesn't look like it's clicking
Speaker 1: for him yet. Point being though, like it looks like
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, their line looks like it
Speaker 1: can block the run. They can't do anything in the
Speaker 1: passing game. And so again I'm looking at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defensive front to have a real opportunity to blow this
Speaker 1: thing up basically. But I mean, from what I remember,
Speaker 1: it kind of has been that way, even last year
Speaker 1: or two, where it all basically depended on Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: to move it. Yeah, and he was successful a lot
Speaker 1: of times. I will throw this out, though, I think
Speaker 1: there were two facets of that offense last year that
Speaker 1: were different than this year. One is Doug Ballwin, who
Speaker 1: has been his best receiver for the last I don't
Speaker 1: know how many years. He's now out presumably, and their
Speaker 1: big red zone threat last year is now gone to
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean he had ten touchdowns. I think
Speaker 1: it was glad you said that though, because they found
Speaker 1: they seem like they found another intriguing guy just Lee. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's tell the story. He's kind of an interesting story,
Speaker 1: you know, a story. Yeah, he's a defensive end who
Speaker 1: moved to tight end and is pretty damn good at it,
Speaker 1: which ironically didn't do it much knowledge didn't do it
Speaker 1: at all, which he on And I'm not blowing smoke.
Speaker 1: You can go pull him back up. He was Brian's
Speaker 1: favorite tight end on the draft. Loved him, loved him,
Speaker 1: talk about him all the time, and he probably I
Speaker 1: think he he had less than twenty catches in his
Speaker 1: entire career at Washington, and Dane was like, he can
Speaker 1: he catch the ball, And Brian was like, trust me,
Speaker 1: just give him the chance. And he's got one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards through two games. He just he's a mismatch.
Speaker 1: He's like six six sixty seven. He's arguably he's arguably
Speaker 1: their best blocker. Uh, seriously, like that's I don't know
Speaker 1: him fourth, which actually he was off the board when
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz was drafted. He was taken before Schultz. He
Speaker 1: was taken after Dooran's armstrong though, so just saying I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, um, he can do he can do
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Like he's a good blocker.
Speaker 1: He is a mismatch in the passing game. That's again
Speaker 1: for the third straight week. Which it's different though, like
Speaker 1: this isn't Evan Ingram. He's not that. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is a tight end. But I'll be interested to see
Speaker 1: who the Cowboys want to put on him. Maybe Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: He's athletic enough to do it. Um, but he's a
Speaker 1: good blocker, which I want to impress on this Jermaine Effetti,
Speaker 1: which is I believe he's the guy that Seattle wound
Speaker 1: up with in the Denver trade. Denver traded up to
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Am I making that up? He's a
Speaker 1: first round pick. He's he's awful. He's so bad. The
Speaker 1: way you set that up, I was not expecting you to
Speaker 1: to say he's awful. He's terrible. Like if he's not
Speaker 1: on the ground, he's given he's being driven back into
Speaker 1: the quarterback DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean he's a Flowers type,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe worse. I am serious, Like, I mean it's
Speaker 1: two games. I didn't watch last year's tape, but he
Speaker 1: was the first round pick from Yeah, that hurt his knee, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's bad. He's bad. Um he lines up on the
Speaker 1: right side, he will be DeMarcus Lawrence's guy again. Like
Speaker 1: that's a matchup you gotta win. And then the other thing,
Speaker 1: this interior. I hate to say this about a guy
Speaker 1: that went to LSU. Ethan Postic is six seven, which
Speaker 1: is big for alignment, and like he has no leverage,
Speaker 1: he gets driven back into the quarterback. That's honestly, breakdowns
Speaker 1: on the outside are not a problem for Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: because he'll roll. He's just as good on the run
Speaker 1: as dak Is. He can hit guys sprinting, or he
Speaker 1: can step up. You know, I can picture Tank just
Speaker 1: whipping around the right side and Russell Wilson just eking
Speaker 1: right up into the hole that he created there. Like
Speaker 1: he can do that stuff. But his interior is awful
Speaker 1: because Ethan Postic doesn't look strong enough to handle a
Speaker 1: remotely competent interior rusher and Seattle center Justin Britt is
Speaker 1: doubtful with a shoulder injury. That's something to watch this
Speaker 1: week is whether he can go, because otherwise I don't
Speaker 1: care who the Cowboys having their defensive tackle like. They
Speaker 1: need to push that thing back because again, outside pressure bad.
Speaker 1: I want to collapse the pocket and not give Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson just anywhere to go. The other thing, this is
Speaker 1: a fun parallel for the Cowboys. I looked this up
Speaker 1: while I was watching their tape. Russell Wilson averages has
Speaker 1: averaged six carries per game in his career. That has
Speaker 1: been a component of their offense. He was their leading
Speaker 1: rusher last year. I think he was the only player
Speaker 1: who rushed for a touchdown for Seattle last year really
Speaker 1: all season, yeah, or at least until late in the season. No,
Speaker 1: like it was a well documented problem. He has never
Speaker 1: had fewer than seventy two carries in a season, but
Speaker 1: he is on pace for forty right now. He's only
Speaker 1: carried the ball five times. I mean sacks obviously, but
Speaker 1: where he runs the ball forward only five times, And
Speaker 1: I just think he's a better pastor than he was
Speaker 1: when he was younger. But that's just that's part of
Speaker 1: his game and I don't think you're doing him any
Speaker 1: favors by not using that. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: with the struggles they've had on the offensive line, I
Speaker 1: just feel like that's going to be a component of
Speaker 1: their game plan this week. Part of that could be
Speaker 1: the fact that they know right now offensively, he's all
Speaker 1: they got and they can't afford to lose him, and
Speaker 1: so they want to back down a little bit, not
Speaker 1: a lot, because you're talking about one less carry essentially
Speaker 1: per game. Um, you said five now and he was
Speaker 1: doing so him He's had five total, he's average total
Speaker 1: through two games. Yes, I thought you were saying five. No.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bring it up if it was like, oh, one, No,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's averaging like a carry and a half
Speaker 1: per gamee wow, he's not running the ball. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that maybe even hyper protecting him like he
Speaker 1: we know that's all. I mean, they may they may
Speaker 1: look at and say that's all we got, we cannot
Speaker 1: afford to lose him. I'm sorry if you're worried about that,
Speaker 1: But like, I don't think the offense will be as
Speaker 1: good without it. I mean he, like I said, he's
Speaker 1: never had fewer than seventy two carries in a season,
Speaker 1: and he's never had less than like at least four
Speaker 1: or five hundred rushing yar, It's like very similar to
Speaker 1: Dak which again I think you probably need that. So
Speaker 1: the misdirection component role getting removing the pocket and getting
Speaker 1: him where he can run if there's no options there
Speaker 1: for him. That Seattle, after watching the Cowboys tape and
Speaker 1: seeing how Jaylen Smith just punished Eli Manning and how
Speaker 1: these rushers but see all punished to punished too. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be smart. That's a fair but
Speaker 1: still it's still a big hit. It doesn't Okay if
Speaker 1: he hits Russell Wilson like that, oh sure, yeah. But
Speaker 1: I think the point, I think the point Dave is
Speaker 1: making is that Russell Wilson, well, Russell Wilson is much
Speaker 1: more elusive. The likelihood that you're gonna get that that
Speaker 1: flush a hit on him like you did on Eli
Speaker 1: is probably a lot less. Right. Russell is stronger too.
Speaker 1: If I was if I was Seattle watching the tape
Speaker 1: of this, I would try to scheme Dallas's aggressiveness against them,
Speaker 1: like if they come out, if they come at me
Speaker 1: like that, where everybody in their mother's blitzing. There's got
Speaker 1: to be some misdirection where again, get the defense and
Speaker 1: get the offensive line going one way and match Russell
Speaker 1: up with a very small number of defenders going the
Speaker 1: other way. And and I think you can punish him
Speaker 1: that way. I don't. I'm not saying he's going to
Speaker 1: run for one hundred yards, but when your offensive line
Speaker 1: is this bad, you gotta do stuff. But how does
Speaker 1: it how does it look relative to let's say, how
Speaker 1: Carolina did it, Because I've the Cowboys rushed really well
Speaker 1: against Carolina from the standpoint that as they were rushing,
Speaker 1: they were rushing in lanes. It didn't really give him
Speaker 1: a lot of leaks to get out. And when he
Speaker 1: got out it was mainly because of his own read.
Speaker 1: And especially in the early part of the game, the
Speaker 1: defense just wasn't staying at home. They were not paying
Speaker 1: attention to but but they got that corrected by the
Speaker 1: second half, which makes me think that they're better prepared
Speaker 1: maybe for those kind of misdirection plays. I actually asked
Speaker 1: Gara about I said, you know, you just played Cam
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I know they're not carbon copies of
Speaker 1: each other, but does having that in your you know,
Speaker 1: you just game plan for that, does that help you?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, we're not gonna run the same stuff.
Speaker 1: Like again, like it's just he can't ever acknowledge that
Speaker 1: you had a good question, right or I mean he
Speaker 1: they literally could have just had that discussion in a
Speaker 1: coaches meeting, but he's not gonna yell. But he did
Speaker 1: say that should not be his same He did say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like some of the concepts will be
Speaker 1: the same for how you contain things, and you know,
Speaker 1: the basic idea is like, for instance, the play that
Speaker 1: sticks out the most in my mind from the Carolina
Speaker 1: game was I think it was either third or fourth
Speaker 1: and short, and they just they faked the hand the
Speaker 1: handoff inside and then Cam went right around Damian Wilson
Speaker 1: was right where he needed to be and just bid
Speaker 1: on the fake completely and Cam got like fifteen yards.
Speaker 1: That's the type of stuff I would try to do
Speaker 1: if I was Seattle. I don't, and hopefully Dallas has
Speaker 1: learned from that and they can play test. You got
Speaker 1: to test if I were seat I'll definitely be testing them.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do, because again, if you just
Speaker 1: put him back there in the pocket and try to,
Speaker 1: you know, just traditional throws, I think you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: Like no slow developing routes, he's gonna the ball's gonna
Speaker 1: come out like they can't. He can't even be in
Speaker 1: there for three seconds, like fast routes, quick routes, slants, curls, comebacks,
Speaker 1: anything that gets the ball out quick. The extra thing
Speaker 1: too here is that if your corners are really as
Speaker 1: good as we think they are, they ought to be
Speaker 1: able to hold these guys man up without having much
Speaker 1: safety help over the top, which allows you didn't have
Speaker 1: that safety also help with making sure that you're containing
Speaker 1: the quarterback if he should get outside the pocket. I
Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on Baldwin. It's his injury.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how serious it is. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, Like what I thought i'd heard, and
Speaker 1: I don't quote me on this, but what I thought
Speaker 1: I heard was that he was out for a significant
Speaker 1: amount of time. I kept talking weeks, okay, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that for sure. That's what I thought I
Speaker 1: heard when he first got hurt. Tyler Lockett is definitely
Speaker 1: a really good player and he can hurt you, but
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of him. If your corners was good,
Speaker 1: like I said, if you are as good as you
Speaker 1: think they are, they ought to be able to handle
Speaker 1: if Bacon Limit, Odell Beckham and Sterling Shepherd, they should
Speaker 1: be able to do their job against him. Now, how
Speaker 1: much of an upper hand does this give you given
Speaker 1: the fact that Chris hu Shart was over there and
Speaker 1: kind of knows and I think Seattle has a new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, right maybe, yeah, Brian Schottenheimer. Yeah, so's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different charger thing, the charge of
Speaker 1: the Jets. He's been a lot of places and hasn't
Speaker 1: been very good at most of them. Yeah, I don't remember. Sorry, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're good at so a little different from what Chris
Speaker 1: knows from the past. But even then, how much of
Speaker 1: an advantage does this gi give Chris Rusharon his secondary
Speaker 1: going up against a team that he's very familiar with.
Speaker 1: I think that you find out what your quarterback. You've
Speaker 1: been with the same guy for six or seven years,
Speaker 1: you know when he loses, You know what happens when
Speaker 1: when they lose games, and what happened to the defenses
Speaker 1: and how they stopped him and control them. So you
Speaker 1: can make suggestions there to Marinelli and then how you'd
Speaker 1: make the coverages. But I don't know if if if
Speaker 1: you know, it's different schemes and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: you could just say, yeah, I remember he you know,
Speaker 1: when the games we would lose with him, it would
Speaker 1: be because we did this and that, which could be
Speaker 1: easier said than done. You get to him and bring
Speaker 1: him down, you know, that could be it. Yeah, good luck,
Speaker 1: don't give him any time to throw. There's a scout
Speaker 1: of report on how to beat Brady too, you know,
Speaker 1: just but yeah, do it. We kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1: They're probably things that frustrate Russell. Yeah, and so he
Speaker 1: probably knows these are the things that doesn't mean you're
Speaker 1: gonna have success. It just means these are things that frustrating,
Speaker 1: These things he doesn't like to have to deal with.
Speaker 1: So if you can even more of those things, the
Speaker 1: whole get that, like Romeo Cornell and Josh McDaniels and
Speaker 1: any other former Patriot, uh, you know, assistant coach went
Speaker 1: to coach somewhere else and was like this is how
Speaker 1: you beata Belichick and Brady and didn't do it. I
Speaker 1: will say this, Um, you know, as bad as it's
Speaker 1: been for them, like they're they're twenty seventh in total
Speaker 1: offense and twenty ninth and rush offense, twenty second in
Speaker 1: pass offense, like they still they took Denver to the
Speaker 1: wire on the road and they lost by They were
Speaker 1: so bad against the Bears, but like, but they had
Speaker 1: a chance against They were down seventeen ten with seven
Speaker 1: minutes to play and the Bears baited Russ into a
Speaker 1: pick six, which only the second pick six he's thrown
Speaker 1: in his entire career. Amazing, that's incredible. Which he's good
Speaker 1: with the ball. Another I keep reminding myself with things
Speaker 1: he does fumble though, especially and it happened twice in
Speaker 1: that game, like get you know the classic tomahawk. He's
Speaker 1: not holding onto it like Aaron Rodgers in that playoff game.
Speaker 1: Like if you can get to him, I think you
Speaker 1: and get fumble opportunities. So that's something to watch. But
Speaker 1: like again, as bad as it's been they've been in
Speaker 1: both of their games right until the end, I just
Speaker 1: he's gonna find a way because he's it's so terrifying
Speaker 1: how like he can turn a very obvious sack into
Speaker 1: not just buying time, but he can buy himself like
Speaker 1: seven seconds. Like if you go watch his touchdown to
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett in the Denver game, like it doesn't look pretty,
Speaker 1: doesn't look pretty, and then he just steps outside and
Speaker 1: again he's got like twenty yards around him and he
Speaker 1: just stands back there and uncorks this bomb. Like he
Speaker 1: can go from no time to all the time in
Speaker 1: the world because he's so elusive. They've been a fourth
Speaker 1: quarter team to that's something to note. They've gotten They've
Speaker 1: scored seven points in the first quarter, six and a second,
Speaker 1: seven and third and twenty one in the fourth, so
Speaker 1: they've been a team that's been much better later in
Speaker 1: the game. They're also, I mean, okay, so they've scored
Speaker 1: twenty one in the fourth and lost both games. That
Speaker 1: means they're a team that's playing from behind two. So yeah,
Speaker 1: get on him early. I get on him early and
Speaker 1: get out far enough I hope to meet. To my
Speaker 1: untrained eye, it looks like the Seahawks want to use
Speaker 1: Rashod Penny because he's their first round pick. But I
Speaker 1: think Chris Carson is better right now, but I hope
Speaker 1: they don't figure that out until this game's over. Margary
Speaker 1: rashot Penny and less Chris Carson. All right, let's take
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Speaker 1: But what did deal? What a deal? Okay? I asked
Speaker 1: you during the break? How many points did Seattle score?
Speaker 1: And say again, they lost the Denver twenty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty four, and they lost to Chicago twenty four to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Now when you compare that to the Cowboys, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're still scoring points versus what we've seen the Cowboys
Speaker 1: put up at this time. The Cowboys are bottom five
Speaker 1: in the league and scoring I mean in a lot
Speaker 1: of categories, but scoring as well. That happens when you
Speaker 1: score less than ten points in a game. Yeah, better
Speaker 1: watch out. Okay, biggest match of the toughest matchup here,
Speaker 1: who would you say, Derek Outside of the obvious switches Russell,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I think it's Tyler Lockett mainly because he
Speaker 1: has the kind of speed that he does trying to
Speaker 1: get corral him, and I think these corners can. But
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, they can early get getting him,
Speaker 1: get him down feel and then they catch a big
Speaker 1: play similar what the Cowboys did last week. I think
Speaker 1: when you when you have a defense that's now thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: we got to worry about what's happening down feel, that
Speaker 1: gives Russell a little bit more room to be able
Speaker 1: to maneuver. And that's the part that would be kind
Speaker 1: of scary. So I think Tyler Lockett is the one
Speaker 1: guy that can actually open this thing up for their
Speaker 1: offense to give their their quarterback a little more room
Speaker 1: to operate. So I think he's the guy that's the
Speaker 1: X factor that's that's good to me. I mean, Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall's not gonna hurt you. Um, it's obviously about stopping
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the run. Those running backs are by committee.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that they can do some damage,
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, Lockett is a guy watched
Speaker 1: him last week. He's a guy that that, like you said,
Speaker 1: he can get open, he can find that, he can
Speaker 1: go deep. He can also kind of be a possession
Speaker 1: guy as a unique player. Plus he's a return specialist too.
Speaker 1: That that from what we've seen already this year, that
Speaker 1: could be a problem in the return game. So I
Speaker 1: would say from their offensive players, I would say Lockett
Speaker 1: because what he does in two areas. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that. Should we talk should well yes, that's
Speaker 1: a great point too. But should we talk about their
Speaker 1: punter today or tomorrow? Tomorrow? Okay, you you do this,
Speaker 1: you do the scouting report? Is it? Punter is a
Speaker 1: defensive player. That's how I look at it. I don't
Speaker 1: your unit is going to make tackles right there in
Speaker 1: your in your depth chart? Oh well that they actually
Speaker 1: break it all? Yeah. The specialist. I mean typically it
Speaker 1: used to be the defensive defensive gay. Yeah. Either way, though,
Speaker 1: he's a stud is what's what's his Dixon? Michael Dixon? There?
Speaker 1: Did he come out early as a junior? Yeah? As
Speaker 1: a punter? Yeah. I think he came out. I know
Speaker 1: he was good. He was really good weeks there were
Speaker 1: some games where like he was the only reason we
Speaker 1: were in him. Now he was the only the reason
Speaker 1: that we were all right, Well, we'll dedicate Australian. Yes,
Speaker 1: we will dedicate some time to the punter for the
Speaker 1: first time in history. But uh, I'm not scared of him.
Speaker 1: But I'm intrigued about this Will Disley kid like I
Speaker 1: to go from again, you know, look at look at
Speaker 1: our guy. Like Dalton Schultz played two snaps against Carolina
Speaker 1: and was inactive last week. Will Disley looks like what
Speaker 1: people want Rico Gathers to be. Our guy played basketball.
Speaker 1: It's sure, it's our guy. You're right, our guy played basketball.
Speaker 1: Our guy, but our guy it's he's He is on
Speaker 1: the same page with Russell Wilson real quickly. I mean no,
Speaker 1: not at all. And the scary thing too, is again
Speaker 1: it's not like Eli because you can have Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: dead to rights and not only does he get out
Speaker 1: of it, but then it doesn't matter what the coverage
Speaker 1: was because it's all broken down and he can just
Speaker 1: play pitch and catch like you can do a great
Speaker 1: job against these guys for four seconds and then on
Speaker 1: the eleventh second of the play, they're wide open, because
Speaker 1: who the hell can cover? Again, Like we always talk
Speaker 1: in training camp like, oh, well, like one on ones
Speaker 1: are so dumb, like why you're doing a double move
Speaker 1: and one on ones that's so unfair? Like this is
Speaker 1: that it's like how big is that guy? This lee? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like six six six seven? Here he looks see, No,
Speaker 1: they don't do the highest it's on here he's he's
Speaker 1: a big boy. He's a blocking tight end. Who that's
Speaker 1: a kie. Oh no, he looks a little smaller than
Speaker 1: everybody looks small. He's a big dude. Rico's big. He's
Speaker 1: a big dude. Um. But yeah, I mean that's sometimes
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to cover these guys for a lot
Speaker 1: longer than you're supposed to, and that's just part of
Speaker 1: the fun of playing Russell Wilson. So yeah, man, they
Speaker 1: need to figure this than you. Just put Ricco back
Speaker 1: in my mind, I will say, especially what you hear
Speaker 1: the stories like this, it's like, Okay, I always I
Speaker 1: try to give a favorable view of the opposition because
Speaker 1: I don't think it's doing anybody any favors to come
Speaker 1: in here and be like, oh, these guys are terrible.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys don't need to worry about anything. But like,
Speaker 1: but this is this is as thank you, This is
Speaker 1: as manageable a Seahawks offense as I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have played in recent history. Like the front seven, I
Speaker 1: give the Cowboys front seven a massive edge in this game.
Speaker 1: Like they Seahawks can't block them, the running backs shouldn't
Speaker 1: respect them. But like we're not talking about Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 1: and his prime here. Um, I think this is a
Speaker 1: favorable matchup for the Cowboy. But again, you guys talked.
Speaker 1: I think you guys talked about this yesterday. Um, the
Speaker 1: Seattle is O and two away games they're going back.
Speaker 1: I mean this is and that's and what It's a
Speaker 1: favorable matchup for Dallas. But Russell Wilson is a big equalizer.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, they are going to they're
Speaker 1: gonna scheme some stuff up, like they got to win
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, this is the must win for them.
Speaker 1: I think it's they're gonna pull out all the stops,
Speaker 1: do that Owen two stuff. It's own three. That's the
Speaker 1: must win. What what I mean if it's if it's
Speaker 1: eighteen percent of teams make the playoffs at over two.
Speaker 1: What is it at it's probably like three percent. It's
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah, yeah, that's probably for the Cowboys. Now
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's like they still got a lot of
Speaker 1: games left. Every game is important, it's not a mustle
Speaker 1: I'm steal and I remember Nick saying this like when
Speaker 1: I first got here, because it happened they played up
Speaker 1: at Seattle in Week three and twenty twelve and got
Speaker 1: their butts kicked, and it like they were supposed to
Speaker 1: try to build some momentum and then did not have.
Speaker 1: And the same thing with the Chiefs the next year,
Speaker 1: where it's like, all right, you're one and one, like
Speaker 1: are you a good team? Can you go on the
Speaker 1: road and beat a similar team? And says a lot
Speaker 1: about you? So I don't know, we'll see. Did I
Speaker 1: see a stat correctly with the Cowboys have been two
Speaker 1: and one for the last seven years? M really, I
Speaker 1: mean it went I don't Jason Garrett's never started and two,
Speaker 1: so okay, so that they've never been one in two
Speaker 1: so this third game of the year, unless I mean
Speaker 1: that right, that means I mean they haven't have they
Speaker 1: started two and oh um it happened. Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly. Well, they started one and so they
Speaker 1: were two and one last year because they lost to
Speaker 1: Denver and then beat whoever they played next. Arizona obviously
Speaker 1: started two and one in sixteen because they won eleven
Speaker 1: in a row. Fifteen they would have been two and
Speaker 1: one because they started two and oz and lost to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So they started two and oh that year, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: Philly in New York. Fourteen they lost to San Francisco
Speaker 1: and then they won six in a row a lot
Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah, thirteen they came back from losing
Speaker 1: to Kansas City and beat the Rams, so they would
Speaker 1: have been yeah, so damn. How how worth the are
Speaker 1: these stats? Anyway? Well, um, they won, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a fun fact. But I'm just saying, how much does that?
Speaker 1: I mean everything, everything changes, I mean basically what they're
Speaker 1: what this is saying is that week three of the season,
Speaker 1: the Coboys have been winning games. Um, but I don't
Speaker 1: know how much you can really say, you know, stats
Speaker 1: like that, there's not a lot of status you can
Speaker 1: go back that far. One of them, I think you
Speaker 1: can is like teams coming off of a bye that
Speaker 1: that just shows how well you're being prepared usually, but
Speaker 1: I don't know about this one. It's just maybe more
Speaker 1: of a coincidence. I don't I don't think it's a coincidence.
Speaker 1: I don't think it says a lot. But I think
Speaker 1: it's the age old thing of Jason Garrett teams like
Speaker 1: love him or hate him, his teams are in the mix.
Speaker 1: I mean even the four and twelve team wasn't even
Speaker 1: out of the mix until what mid October because and
Speaker 1: largely because of the games that Romo won for him.
Speaker 1: But like, it's it would be weird to see a
Speaker 1: Garrett team start super duper slow, like that doesn't happen
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