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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption prode.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 3: was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Guy, John Annick,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, Oh my god, here you're your hosts, John

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Speaker 1: Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Well, in the immortal words of our late friend and

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Speaker 4: UFC producer Bruce Connell, are you fucking kiddings? It is Monday,

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Speaker 4: October eight, twenty eighteen, Episode one seventy four, The ankin

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Speaker 4: Florent Podcast. Not sureflow I've ever been as hack be

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Speaker 4: to actually have a podcast as I am today, because

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Speaker 4: needless to say, there is a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 5: My lord, what just happened?

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Speaker 3: What happened? It was crazy, man, What a weekend, What

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Speaker 3: an event? And at the same time, with everything that happened.

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Speaker 3: This is something that's extremely rare in this sport. Although

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 4: We know you're not surprised, and anyone who saw your

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Speaker 4: tweet and retweeted it knows you're not surprised. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure this is the episode if you have kids listening

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Speaker 4: that you want them to hear, unless they love swear words.

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Speaker 4: I haven't decided yet whether or not I'm going to

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Speaker 4: raise my kids in a household in which we swear,

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Speaker 4: or if we're going to go the more standard route

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Speaker 4: in which we don't. Anyway, I digress Red Eye last night.

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Speaker 4: We are ready to go today, and we wanted to

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Speaker 4: bring Ray long Go into the show off the top

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Speaker 4: because he has a lot to say about this. I

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Speaker 4: gotta think Ray welcome in that you were grinning ear

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Speaker 4: to ear at least as this fight was going on,

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Speaker 4: as your guy cub Eve Normago Medob made it look

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Speaker 4: relatively easy there against CODDR.

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Speaker 3: Mccrector.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think you know, look, man, enough of the bullshit,

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Speaker 7: stop with all this hype, just going and fight, man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look what's happened with this?

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Speaker 7: Look where this is progressed to you know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, I like the quiet guys that you know,

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Speaker 7: they just go in and do what they have to do.

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Speaker 7: I don't like the carnival barkers and then they go

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Speaker 7: in and do absolutely nothing. So you know, look, I think,

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Speaker 7: how many times is this guy gonna trick us at

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Speaker 7: this point? You know what I mean? I mean they

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Speaker 7: gave him a forty year old boxer who, yeah, he

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Speaker 7: was probably the best pound for pound guy, but the

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Speaker 7: guy was fucking forty years old. I mean, yeah, he

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Speaker 7: gassed out hitting the guy he wasn't even getting hit

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Speaker 7: by the time he gassed out.

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Speaker 6: You know. Then you know, you saw what happened with Nate.

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Speaker 6: You saw what.

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Speaker 7: Happened Now he's I don't know. I don't know how

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Speaker 7: this guy keeps on going. I gotta tell you, I mean,

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Speaker 7: somewhere deep down inside, I got to believe, you know,

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Speaker 7: something is worth more than money, you know, like your

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Speaker 7: character and your integrity and the way you hold yourself

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Speaker 7: up in public. I mean, I just really want to

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Speaker 7: believe that. But you know, Kenny said something that I agree.

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Speaker 7: You can't be surprised at what happened. I mean, they

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Speaker 7: set this thing up for a total fiasco. You know,

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Speaker 7: and I think we got to get rid of the

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Speaker 7: double standard. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: This guy seems to get away with everything.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what message they want to send, but

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Speaker 7: you know, he throws a dolly at a bus, no repercussions,

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Speaker 7: nothing happens. He jumps over the cage, he attacks a

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Speaker 7: ref and Bellati As far as I know, nothing happens.

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Speaker 7: He hits Kabe, but the weigh in tries to kick

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Speaker 7: him in the face. Athletic commission, nothing happens. Like, what

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Speaker 7: message are you sending? Seriously? What did they want this

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Speaker 7: guy to do? Sit there? He was a gentleman during

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Speaker 7: the press conferences, He held his pool, He did whatever

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Speaker 7: his religion far what do you want this guy to do?

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Speaker 7: How many times can you keep poking the bear? So

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Speaker 7: you know, my emotional side is they got exactly what

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Speaker 7: It's not right, and you should be able to control yourself.

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Speaker 7: But to like again, that's why I say, well, Kenny,

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Speaker 7: you can't be surprised to tell me that you're surprised

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Speaker 7: that this happened is mentally deficient to me, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean, shouldn't have happened? No, obviously not, but

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Speaker 7: it kind of was set up from the get go. Man,

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Speaker 7: I don't know what they want from this kid. I

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Speaker 3: And Ray at the same time, you know, obviously with Hibbib,

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Speaker 3: this is a guy who's from Dagastan. He takes his

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Speaker 3: very seriously. And we can't forget the fact that these

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Speaker 3: guys are fighters. These guys are trained to fight, to

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Speaker 3: use their limbs to hurt other human beings, and when

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Speaker 3: emotions get out of hand, guess what this is going

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Speaker 3: to happen. We've seen it in basketball, We've seen it

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Speaker 3: You get two trained, highly trained fighters out there and

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Speaker 3: think emotions are going to run high? Uh? Ray, do

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Speaker 3: the story though, because a big part of a promoter's

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Speaker 3: the right storylines. And I know this is probably a

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Speaker 3: hot button with you right now, but do you think

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Speaker 3: we're actually we could see a rematch? Do people want

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Speaker 7: Why don't want to see a rematch? And nothing warrants

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Speaker 7: a rematch? And oh and here's the deal. Everybody's so

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Speaker 7: appolled at what happened, Kenny. Here's my question. You know,

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Speaker 7: if there was a rematch, do they use that footage

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Speaker 3: I mean they use they use the dolly, So.

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Speaker 7: I mean, everybody's a poll. This is horrible. Behave I'm disgusted.

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Speaker 7: Do they use that footage? Are they disgusted enough not

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Speaker 7: the problem is, Kenny. If Raboll threw that dollar through

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Speaker 7: that bus, this fight never happens. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 7: should have happened. Connor McGregor should have been suspended a

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Speaker 7: And if you set the precedent there, think Kabeb knows

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Speaker 7: if he does something, he's out for a year or

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Speaker 7: two years, whatever it is. But to do nothing and

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Speaker 7: to just watch this guy go about acting like a

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Speaker 7: talking about you know what the police are doing. I'm

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Speaker 7: talking about you had company people, people in your company

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Speaker 7: on that bus that were shitting in their pants. What

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Speaker 7: are you telling those people what happened? Let the cops

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Speaker 7: handle it. How about take a fucking hike. How about

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Speaker 7: that you're on the shelf for two years. I don't

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Speaker 7: give a fuck about the money, right you're acting like

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Speaker 6: You're out.

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Speaker 4: I mean so in terms of like a BeBr Mago Medov,

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Speaker 4: I just want to jump in here in terms of

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Speaker 4: copy even what happened after the fight and Ken, you

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Speaker 4: you first on this. It seemed to me like Kabib

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Speaker 4: He had to be physically removed from Connor by Herb Dean.

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Speaker 4: He was keeping weight on Connor after the fight. You know,

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Speaker 4: some suggested maybe he spit on him. I didn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: Dylan Danis. Now I've been roundly criticized for saying that

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Speaker 4: this was calculated or premeditated, and perhaps those words are strong,

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Speaker 4: but I felt like some sort of retaliation or second

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Speaker 4: the hotel. Your thoughts on Kabebe in that moment and

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Speaker 4: his immediate reaction and ultimately decision to jump the fence

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the problem is it still might happen. It

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Speaker 3: These guys are going back and forth all the time.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's not like he went out there

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Speaker 3: and attacked the spectator. This is not this is not

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Speaker 3: right of either team for this to happen. In no

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Speaker 3: spectators got hurt. That was another fighter, Dylan Dannis. He's

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Speaker 3: was retribution that wanted to be laid out. There's no

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Speaker 7: And yeah, the other thing is John, is that what

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Speaker 6: Now you put the emotion.

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Speaker 7: Of fighting in there, and you're adrenaline is fucking pomping

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Speaker 7: He showed that he could do the right thing even

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Speaker 6: He proved it.

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Speaker 7: He proved it at the press conference, he proved it

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Speaker 7: But after the fight, when those emotions were charged up.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not sure if it was premeditated I think

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Speaker 7: he definitely wanted retribution, but I think at that time,

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Speaker 7: But it's like you come out of even even spar

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Speaker 7: It's a different, different vibe when you're fighting. Man, You've

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Speaker 7: got different emotions going on and there's different chemical reactions

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Speaker 7: a guy that couldn't restrain himself. He said it at

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Speaker 7: best me. You know, my father's gonna smash me when

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Speaker 7: I get home. I think this guy's got some values,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. You know the econom mcgreg

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Speaker 7: is saying his father's gonna whip his ass when he

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Speaker 7: you know, you see those kids, you know, they stick

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Speaker 3: I agree. Listen, you saw the bad blood between McGregor

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean I agree with that. If we

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Speaker 6: But man, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just think it was it was so expected that

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Speaker 6: I don't like the money thing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah he made more money, but you know what, maybe

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Speaker 6: It doesn't mean ship.

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Speaker 3: There was two competing No, absolutely, listen, there's two competing philosophies. Right.

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Speaker 7: And you know, look I found Look, yeah, that's really

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Speaker 6: The people that are all about money, like you're an idiot,

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Speaker 7: You know, they can't even see anything else, and that

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Speaker 6: Tom.

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Speaker 7: I'm happy he made the money. I think it's great.

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Speaker 7: Are you happy with that? Is that what you want?

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Speaker 6: To leave be my guest, man, I don't care.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: I think if you know, I don't know, man, if

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well no, And I know you have a strong opinion

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but John, the question is this, do you think

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the UFC cuts my paycheck, But do

433
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Speaker 4: I think the punishments have been Well no, no, I'm

434
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Speaker 4: saying no. I mean, but I'm not gonna sit here and.

435
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Speaker 7: Tell you an outside of looking in Do you think

436
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Speaker 7: that's fantasy?

437
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Speaker 4: I know, I know I'll tell you as a ZUFA

438
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Speaker 4: employee that the punishments have not been consistent, you know.

439
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 4: But I just think there are a lot of layers

440
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Speaker 4: and a lot of hierarchy dynamics and things. And I

441
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 4: also think too, and Connor McGregor ken Flow, we have

442
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Speaker 4: this generational guy who puts our second biggest superstar to shame,

443
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Speaker 4: at least in terms of monetary value. And I do

444
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Speaker 4: think that for better or for worse, and I think

445
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 4: for most people, for worse, this guy is a cash

446
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 4: cow that this sport has never seen before and this

447
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 4: sport is gonna never see them after. And I think

448
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: a lot of people are swallowing some pride and some

449
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Speaker 4: moral things and uh cashing on the cow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

451
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: That and and also that was premeditated. There was a

452
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Speaker 3: video of him saying that he was gonna go and

453
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Speaker 3: and you know, hurt Connor for those words and all

454
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Speaker 3: that stuff. I mean, it's tough if you're it's a

455
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: tough situation man. That that is a tough situation. Because again,

456
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Speaker 3: uh is Zubayer is that that's his name, that's right now.

457
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Speaker 3: He's not Kobe, but he's not Connor. So the fact

458
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Speaker 3: that he was in there. I mean, he doesn't really

459
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Speaker 3: get a pass that that's okay.

460
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Speaker 7: So in your philosophy, if you're the governor and you

461
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Speaker 7: kill somebody, and you're a homeless person and you kill somebody,

462
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Speaker 7: there's different treatment.

463
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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't think there's anything to do

464
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Speaker 3: with it. I don't think he was involved in the

465
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Speaker 3: fight period.

466
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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, like, I think

467
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Speaker 7: they got his sty I just would like to see

468
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Speaker 7: it stop and treat everybody faily, That's all I'm saying.

469
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Speaker 7: But oh, look on a lighter note, that real estate

470
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Speaker 7: agent didn't do that fucking bad, did he not?

471
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Speaker 6: So let's just switch it to him at this point.

472
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Speaker 6: One day noticed trained for a three round fight five rounds.

473
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Speaker 6: Why was that?

474
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Speaker 3: And with the distance I don't know.

475
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Speaker 6: Know.

476
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Speaker 4: Yes, Ally, Quinton deserves all the credit in the world,

477
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Speaker 4: and we do want to spend the last five minutes

478
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Speaker 4: we have with you on the actual fight because one

479
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 4: question we had asked on this podcast was how would

480
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Speaker 4: have bebnrmaco Medov handled the walk, the big fight atmosphere,

481
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: and everything that went with it. Say what you want

482
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: about his actions after the fight, everything up until he finished.

483
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor. In my opinion from Thursday, September twentieth, that

484
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Speaker 4: first base off in New York City to Herb Dean

485
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Speaker 4: pulling him off of Connor, he handled himself brilliantly.

486
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Speaker 5: He I mean, he couldn't.

487
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Speaker 4: He just dismissed that narrative and then some he made

488
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Speaker 4: me feel like I wasted a whole lot of hot

489
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Speaker 4: air talking about how he would handle that moment. And

490
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Speaker 4: on the other side, I thought Connor looked great all week,

491
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Speaker 4: but all of a sudden on fight night, it seemed

492
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: like his color was gone. His confidence didn't seem there,

493
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: the smile wasn't there. There were maybe some rumblings about

494
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: some things, some circumstances backstage, but Kabib handled the fight

495
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 4: part of this with flying colors and proved that he

496
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: probably is the best, you know, most dominant force in

497
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Speaker 4: the game as advertised.

498
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Speaker 6: No question about it.

499
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Speaker 7: And I gotta tell you, when Kinda walked in that ring,

500
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 7: I was like, Wow, I think this guy's actually buying

501
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 7: into his own bullshit. I saw a guy that, you know,

502
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 7: the day of wreckoning was coming very short, sure you

503
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 7: know what I mean, and he just he looked like

504
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 7: he was he knew it himself, but he he's still

505
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 7: he bought into that persona man. I do believe this guy,

506
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 7: deep down inside at one time was a martial artist.

507
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Speaker 6: I think he's around some good people.

508
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 7: But you know, you've got to stay grounded, man, And

509
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 7: I don't know something. You have to have some core

510
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 7: values that you're not willing to separate with. And that's

511
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 7: what I would like to see from the guy, you

512
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Just a total change. You're going

513
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 7: and fight, you know, that's what you're about. You're a

514
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Speaker 7: martial artist. But this other shit is getting old to me.

515
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 7: And I could be because I'm getting old, you know,

516
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 7: But to me, it's just it's fucking the people I'm

517
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 7: talking about, like, Wow, they knew this for years and

518
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 7: it's just coming to fruition for him, you know what

519
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 7: I mean. And that and that's the thing, Kenny, you

520
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 7: can make a case for. I don't even know where

521
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 7: this guy goes down, but you know, two time, different way, Champ,

522
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 7: But I don't even know.

523
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm looking at at this point.

524
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Speaker 3: Having confidence is such a balancing act as well, because

525
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: it's the same thing that fuels you to be successful.

526
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: But it's very easy to go way too far and

527
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: believe things and have your reality skewed to the point

528
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: where you know, now you're just going too far. Now

529
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: you're not focused on what you actually to do with

530
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: the task at hand.

531
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, that's Kenny, that's a great point. I mean,

532
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 7: with all the money and all of this, now he's

533
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 7: in trouble. I mean, Kenny properly trained for a fight.

534
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 7: Kenny make corrections at thirty, you know what I mean.

535
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 7: And he's got all the money and all of this stuff. Kenny,

536
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 7: go back and get that wrestling down.

537
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Speaker 6: You know.

538
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 7: You know, I knew it was going to be bad

539
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 7: when Jordan Burrows put out a tweet but saying something

540
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 7: to the effect of the guy with the loudest mouth

541
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 7: isn't always the toughest guy something like that, you know

542
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 7: what I mean. So that was a guy that they

543
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 7: supposedly brought in, you know, to help him with the wrestling, and.

544
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wanted to, they wanted to or something. They

545
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: was talking about it. They never did.

546
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 7: But yeah, that was a very telling tweet that guy

547
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 7: put out, basically saying it's a cronky shit.

548
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 4: You know, well, I I do think you're under selling

549
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor the fighter, and even though Kabib represented probably

550
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: the biggest monetary gain for him next to Nate Diaz,

551
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 4: he deserves some modicum of credit for taking what is

552
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: ubiquitously regarded as far and away the worst matchup for

553
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: him in this division. So I think they're most of

554
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: the top ten at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

555
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: I still think Connor McGregor beats So maybe we could

556
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: have a little side wager at some point down the

557
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: line when I'm no longer employed by the UFC. I

558
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: think you're selling him a little bit short as as

559
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: a martial arts.

560
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 6: I'll make you a bet. I said, what do you

561
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 6: got maybe?

562
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know what he's gonna say after I

563
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: said this after the Mayweather fight.

564
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 7: At first I said he'll never win another fight in

565
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 7: the UFC, you know, to a lot of people over it.

566
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 6: Now I'm just gonna change it. He'll never win another

567
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 6: five round fight in the UFC. That I guarantee you.

568
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: All right, it's all You deserve the right to modify,

569
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: all right. Last thing before we let you go, Ray

570
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: had me chase some information can flow and remember the

571
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 4: brawl in Nashville twenty ten with Jason Mayhem Miller and

572
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Speaker 4: the Diz Brothers, Gilbert Melendez Shield. A few different people

573
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: were involved, right, so Scrappack. So the punishments. Ray was

574
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: asking me what the punishments were as we try to

575
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: sort of see what they might do with kobeeb and

576
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Speaker 4: other people.

577
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: So twenty thousand dollars.

578
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: Fines, nine months suspensions, but those nine month suspensions will

579
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Speaker 4: be reduced to three months if the fighters agree not

580
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: to challenge them. Twenty thousand dollars fines will be reduced

581
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: to somewhere between five thousand and seventy five hundred. So

582
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 4: not much of a punishment at all, at least back

583
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: in Nashville in twenty ten, this was far more viewed

584
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: bigger circus according to some, less of one according to others.

585
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: I don't know what they'll do.

586
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: We got to do some research on the Holy Field

587
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: and Tyson fight with the ear Biteyeh.

588
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Speaker 5: I ran out of time. I ran out of time.

589
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Speaker 6: The small look.

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Speaker 7: I think, I think Bob Bennett's a great dude man.

591
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Speaker 7: I think he's got he's a man of integrity, and

592
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Speaker 7: I hope he really looks at all angles of this

593
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Speaker 7: thing and comes up.

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Speaker 6: With a with a with a fast solution.

595
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Speaker 3: And as far as I know, it looks like nobody

596
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: got hurt. No one lost an ear. That's good, you know.

597
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Longo just got his feelings hurt. But everybody else

598
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: is okay.

599
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: Loongo is on fire today. Geez, get the guy some coffee,

600
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: get him a tea or something sick, give him a massage.

601
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Speaker 6: Did I miss anything?

602
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: No? I mean I think that's just about covers it.

603
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Speaker 5: The last thing.

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Speaker 4: I guess because Ray and I did the podcast before

605
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: the podcast by phone today and that's why we bumped

606
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: him up to the top of the sh as he requested.

607
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: But if you want somebody to make you feel young

608
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: and keep you feeling young, I would submit to you.

609
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Speaker 5: Tony Ferguson.

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00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: I mean, can you believe this fucking guy fourteen to

611
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: one in the UFC probably the most exciting fighter that

612
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. Uh, and that doesn't even count the

613
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 4: three finishes on The Ultimate Fighter. Ray, I feel like

614
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: he is a first ballot Hall of Famer and he

615
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: has hasn't even competed for the undisputed title yet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, he one hund deserves the shot at Kaviev. That's

618
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 7: the fight I would love to see, and that's the

619
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Speaker 7: guy that deserves it. For once, I don't care how

620
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 7: much money is involved.

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Speaker 6: Give it to the guy that earned it, and that

622
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 6: guy certainly earned it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, my man, have a great day. Thanks

624
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Speaker 4: for the extended time.

625
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Speaker 6: All right taking these guys.

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Speaker 4: dot Org number thirty thirty. All right, so I promise

654
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Speaker 4: we're going to spend time on the actual fight, but

655
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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like we got to clean out

656
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Speaker 4: the desk Kenny, when it comes to everything that happened

657
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Speaker 4: after the fact. So Zubayr to Hugov, the UFC featherweight

658
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Speaker 4: was involved in this situation. There was another guy, I

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Speaker 4: believe Kabib Normago Medov's cousin, who appeared to be exiting

660
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Speaker 4: the octagon to go try to assist Kabib, and Connor

661
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Speaker 4: threw a left hand at him. We did not see

662
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Speaker 4: that on the broadcast, Otherwise of course we would have

663
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Speaker 4: said it.

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Speaker 5: We called it like we saw it.

665
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Speaker 4: I panned from Kabib to the octagon, and the first

666
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Speaker 4: thing I saw was Zubayr to Whogov throw and land

667
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Speaker 4: on Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 5: So there were a lot of different elements to this.

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Speaker 4: To who gov likely is going to be cut from

670
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Speaker 4: the UFC, I mean, Dana what essentially said as much

671
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Speaker 4: we have some precedent for situations. Paul day Jason High

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Speaker 4: Jason High twenty fourteen shoved a referee, was immediately cut

673
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Speaker 4: from the promotion and that ended his second UFC stint.

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Speaker 4: And then Paul Daily it was may A twenty ten. Kenny,

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Speaker 4: we were in the building UFC one thirteen against Josh

676
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Speaker 4: Costchek hit him after the horn. Paul Daylee has never

677
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Speaker 4: been back in the UFC. So case by case basis right.

678
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Speaker 4: And I know some fans would like to see everything

679
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Speaker 4: in life be fair. That's just not the way it is.

680
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Speaker 4: And I think you're probably gonna see these things continue

681
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Speaker 4: to be handled just that way on a case by

682
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Speaker 4: case basis.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, you mean, you guys didn't see every single

684
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Speaker 3: thing that happened to the cage, with all the chaos

685
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Speaker 3: and people that were in the octagon, I can't believe it. John,

686
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Speaker 3: You guys are wow. No, Listen, what people need to

687
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Speaker 3: understand is, first of all, there is a lot of

688
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Speaker 3: chaos happening. There's a lot of things going on in

689
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Speaker 3: the octagon. Your attention is here, it should be over

690
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Speaker 3: there or the other. There was a lot of things

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Speaker 3: going on, and you guys don't have the luxury of

692
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Speaker 3: seeing every single camera angle out there. Right. The other

693
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Speaker 3: thing is this is that listen. I don't see it

694
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Speaker 3: as right either way. But you see a guy who's

695
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Speaker 3: coming towards you with his hands up, what do you

696
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Speaker 3: think he's trying to do? Give you a hug, A

697
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: congratulatory you know hug. You know after the fight that

698
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: was a guy from a rival team was going over

699
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Speaker 3: with bad intention. So what would anybody do? What would

700
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Speaker 3: any fighter do? They're they're their reaction is going to

701
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Speaker 3: be to defend themselves. They're gonna throw something at you.

702
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Speaker 3: So you know, I don't blame Connor for that. You know,

703
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: things were crazy, things were crazy leading up to the fight.

704
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Speaker 3: I said it before in that tweet, I said, you know,

705
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Speaker 3: this fight ended the way it began, and it was unfortunate,

706
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Speaker 3: it really was. But at the end of the day, man,

707
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Speaker 3: these guys are fighters. These guys are fighters. A lion

708
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Speaker 3: uh is going to revert to its instincts. You know,

709
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Speaker 3: you can't be mad at the lion for doing it.

710
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Speaker 3: And these guys are these guys are professional fighters. Okay,

711
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Speaker 3: we can't forget about that.

712
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Speaker 4: And Kabib, if he was gonna sort of have some

713
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Speaker 4: sort of reaction, it was gonna be after the business

714
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Speaker 4: was accomplished, right. He wasn't going to get into any

715
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Speaker 4: histrionics before the fight and jeopardized the competition. But after

716
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Speaker 4: the fact he had some unfinished business. And I think

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Speaker 4: that's fair to say it was unfinished business when he

718
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Speaker 4: hears zuba Er to Hugob come out and say, you know,

719
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Speaker 4: I committed my promise that I was going to go

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Speaker 4: slap Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: So I find it somewhat hard to believe that there

723
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Speaker 4: weren't conversations in Khabib's army about, you know, what they

724
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Speaker 4: might do. But I could be wrong, And you know,

725
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Speaker 4: that was something that Joe Rogan and I I know

726
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Speaker 4: disagreed on I think most fans fall on his side,

727
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Speaker 4: and maybe calculated was too strong a word. But I

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Speaker 4: digress a couple other things as far as the fight

729
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Speaker 4: is concerned. So I know you picked Connor McGregor. I

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Speaker 4: know maybe if you had been able to remake the

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Speaker 4: pick right as the fight was beginning. You didn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: love the visual out of Connor McGregor and some things

733
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Speaker 4: that maybe we were hearing. But overall thoughts on what

734
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Speaker 4: we saw in terms of the action, Connor's inability to

735
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Speaker 4: really get his striking going early, got it going in

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Speaker 4: the third round, and Kabib been proving to twenty seven.

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Speaker 5: Oh what did you think of the mixed martial arts

738
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Speaker 5: we saw?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, when you look at the fight, we

740
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Speaker 3: were talking about it. I think anyone who knew the

741
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Speaker 3: fight game said it was either going to be an

742
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Speaker 3: early win for Connor or late win for Habib. Obviously,

743
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Speaker 3: it ended up being the late win for Habib. We

744
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Speaker 3: acknowledge or I acknowledged that it was a terrible style

745
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Speaker 3: match up for Connor. I thought Connor's experience was going

746
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Speaker 3: to be the difference in big fights. I thought Habib

747
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 3: was going to be a little bit too emotional, wanting

748
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Speaker 3: to kill him too much, that would maybe divert from

749
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Speaker 3: his game plan. That was not the case. Habib was

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Speaker 3: tremendous in how he was timing his takedowns. He was patient.

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Speaker 3: The first round saw him control the action, basically indicate

752
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Speaker 3: to Connor that I'm not going to beat you up

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Speaker 3: right now. I'm going to show you that I can

754
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Speaker 3: take you down, control you and keep you here as

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Speaker 3: long as I want. He didn't throw a lot of

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Speaker 3: punishment Connor's way, didn't land a whole lot of shots

757
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Speaker 3: in that first round, but he did control him beautifully.

758
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Speaker 3: The second round, that was a dominant round for Habib.

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Speaker 3: He landed that overhand right that really hurt Connor, beat

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Speaker 3: him up with some nice ground and pound, really took

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Speaker 3: Connor completely out of his element and cemented that the

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Speaker 3: third round I thought Connor won. There were no takedowns

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Speaker 3: I don't think landed for for Habib at all. I

764
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Speaker 3: don't think he really attempted many takedowns either that round,

765
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Speaker 3: but it was mostly on the feet. Connor didn't land

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Speaker 3: with a lot of power in that round either, but

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Speaker 3: he did win that round. That was the first round

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Speaker 3: that we've ever seen Habib lose in my opinion, and

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Speaker 3: in the fourth round, once again it was Habib with

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Speaker 3: a very dominant performance. We know what happened. He took

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Speaker 3: him down again, was able to get position. He ended

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Speaker 3: up going to that neck crank wasn't really a choke,

773
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Speaker 3: but Habib's arms around your jaw. He's gonna break that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy so strong from that position. Here's

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Speaker 3: the deal. Connor wasn't able to keep that center of

776
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Speaker 3: the octagon control. He was backing up against the cage.

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Speaker 3: That is not where you want to be against Habib.

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Speaker 3: I thought there was a few instances where he was

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Speaker 3: trying to counter with wrestling, something you don't want to

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Speaker 3: do against in a more experienced wrestler. I think the

781
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Speaker 3: approach for Connor should have been for him to counter

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Speaker 3: with jiu jitsu against the wrestling of Habi. I didn't

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Speaker 3: think that was the right choice. He was kind of

784
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Speaker 3: staying in there trying to counter the wrestling, not against Habib.

785
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Speaker 3: That that was not the right approach in my opinion.

786
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Speaker 3: I thought he should have shown more variety in that fight.

787
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: He was really just looking for that left hand. I

788
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Speaker 3: thought he should have been throwing way more kicks, especially

789
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Speaker 3: with that left leg going upstairs to Habib he throws.

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Speaker 3: He threw some nice kicks down to the body at

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Speaker 3: the mid section. I thought he should have used that

792
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Speaker 3: a little bit more throughout the fight. So I think

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Speaker 3: there was a lack of patience. I don't think Connor

794
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Speaker 3: showed the best timing in that fight. He was waiting

795
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Speaker 3: for Habib to throw that right hand. Typically Connor goes

796
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Speaker 3: underneath it with a straight cross, or sometimes he goes

797
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Speaker 3: over it. Just couldn't find his timing that night. Habib

798
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Speaker 3: was mixing it up well, landing his takedowns repeatedly, and

799
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Speaker 3: it was a very dominant performance for Habib at the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you summed it up beautifully. Connor just

801
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: didn't seem to have that extra gear at all, and

802
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: it didn't seem like Habib at any point, you know,

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Speaker 4: respected the power that was coming back his way. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to mix in some of your tweets here at

805
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Speaker 4: Anna Florian Pod. This one from Dan and Oregon John,

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Speaker 4: Why did you claim Kabeb was tired in the fight?

807
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Speaker 5: Bad observation by me.

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00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: I misread his body language and his mouth being open.

809
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Speaker 4: I guess Kenny I was just surprised to see Kabib

810
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Speaker 4: sort of just standing there, flat footed, willing to trade

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Speaker 4: with Connor McGregor. Of all the things I expected to

812
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Speaker 4: see in that fight, despite everything we heard about Kabib'

813
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Speaker 4: striking improvements and him showing up his defense and everything else,

814
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Speaker 4: just didn't expect that visual to see him standing there

815
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Speaker 4: exchanging punches.

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Speaker 3: Well. Listen, in the third round, he stopped going for takedowns,

817
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Speaker 3: which probably indicated that he was reserving his energy or

818
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Speaker 3: maybe taking a round off. So I don't think you're

819
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Speaker 3: necessarily wrong about that when I look at you know,

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Speaker 3: some of the comments that people made after the fight, though,

821
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Speaker 3: with some people that I work with at Fox or

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Speaker 3: some other people, it's never It's never as easy as

823
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: you think it is, right, And a lot of people

824
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: were saying Connor loss because he didn't have great conditioning.

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Speaker 3: It's not that easy, guys, No, that that's not the

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Speaker 3: way it worked. He didn't lose because he didn't work out,

827
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Speaker 3: because he wasn't on the treadmill. Like guys, it's a

828
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Speaker 3: mixed martial arts fight. First of all, you're taking away

829
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Speaker 3: from everything that Habib has done throughout his career. He's

830
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Speaker 3: a wrestler. He's a guy who takes you down repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: Guess what that is tiring. I don't care how many

832
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Speaker 3: miles you've run. I don't care how long you know,

833
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: skip the jump rope for, you know, how many rounds

834
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Speaker 3: of sparring you that is exhausting. Name one fighter that

835
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: has faced Habib that hasn't looked exhausted, right, right, it's

836
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Speaker 3: it's it's it comes down to technique. You should be

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Speaker 3: looking at technique first. And when I see some of

838
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Speaker 3: these professional you know, broadcasters and stuff like, it was

839
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: clear that Connor McGregor was out of shape for this fight,

840
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Speaker 3: and that's that. Nope, right, that's not a guy.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Right, And I have a lot of respect for

842
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Speaker 4: my friend and former colleague Colin Cowherd and our former

843
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: producer kier In Portley, who both seem to fall on

844
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: that side. Connor McGregor was in outstanding shape, you know,

845
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: mastered the diet and everything else. So I just think

846
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: it's an empty narrative, and I just think it's I

847
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: think it just is such a leap by a lot

848
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Speaker 4: of people to just say, oh, he must not have

849
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: been in shape. Just such a fucking ridiculous thing that

850
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Speaker 4: I was very surprised to hear after the fact. A

851
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: couple other tweets here, This one from Clyde richardson. Should

852
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Speaker 4: there maybe be a redesign at least partially of the octagon,

853
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Speaker 4: maybe a higher top side, Kenny, to prevent guys from

854
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Speaker 4: jumping over it. I think there's maybe a visual issue there, right,

855
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Speaker 4: even though some seats might be obstructed, and when you're

856
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: on the floor as we are, you're looking through the fence.

857
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 4: Some have suggested barbed wire at the top. I can't

858
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Speaker 4: support that.

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Speaker 3: Bulletproof glass like battle bots. Oh, just get the whole

860
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: thing and closed and you could see right through it.

861
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: And now we know we could now, I mean, listen,

862
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Speaker 3: the cage is there for a reason. These aren't things

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Speaker 3: that happen all the time, you know, Yes, could they

864
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Speaker 3: do it? Could they make it more secure? Absolutely? I

865
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: mean they could put it inside a safe, you know,

866
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: a say for something, or they can fight inside a

867
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: bank vault. But you know that's that's not the that's

868
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: not the answer.

869
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.

870
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: A couple other things here, this one from Chris with

871
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: such a great performance, can you give us three lightweights

872
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: who could possibly beat Kabib. I think Tony Ferguson has

873
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: a good chance to beat Kabib Nirmago Medov, even though

874
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: Dustin Poorier would be the first to tell you it's

875
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: the toughest matchup for him. I think mentally physically he

876
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: would love to have the opportunity to do so, and

877
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: Poorier entering his prime, I give a decent chance. Gregor

878
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: Gillespie is the guy, maybe without the number next to

879
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 4: his name, that I would like to see in there

880
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 4: because he's undefeated, lives about as clean a lifestyle as

881
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: anybody on the roster, and trains like a frickin' monster.

882
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: He's just more of a fisherman than a fighter at times, right,

883
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: But anybody that you think Kenny presents a real challenge

884
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 4: to jabibnrmago Metov.

885
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: I love those answers. I think Tony Ferguson in his

886
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: weight class, I think that would be very interest. That

887
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: guy is an absolute savage, and Gregor Lesbie, because of

888
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: that wrestling, I think is a good The other one

889
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: who's not in his weight classes in Tyron Woodley and Listen.

890
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: I think Habib is big enough where he can go

891
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: up to one seventy. I don't think Tyron is small

892
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: enough to go down in one fifty five, but that

893
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: is a possible fight that could happen in the future.

894
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: He has that wrestling background, of course, and I think

895
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley in the whole UFC, anyone who's in and

896
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 3: around that weight class, I think is the the guy

897
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: that matches up against Habib the best. And people are

898
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: gonna be laughing, like, dude, he's not one hundred fifty

899
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: five pounder. Well, that's the closest I can get. Is

900
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: a guy at one hundred and seventy pounds who's the

901
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: current champ. All right, That's about as close as I

902
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: can get.

903
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: And I just want to say, while I think of it,

904
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: the American Kickboxing Academy, right, I mean, look at what

905
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: they have accomplished for Hobby or Mendez and Bob Cook

906
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: and everybody on Down and ZINC and Entertainment, Caine Belaskaz,

907
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: Daniel Cormier, Luke Rockhold, bieb Normago Medov. That speaks nothing

908
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: of what Josh Thompson and others have done. But those

909
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: four first ballot Hall of Famers in rock Hold and Kabib.

910
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: Rock Hold's case maybe isn't as strong as the others,

911
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 4: but DC, Cain, kabib Nrmago Madow absolutely incredible.

912
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: All right, Rjake, go ahead.

913
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: No, And I was just gonna say sorry that their

914
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 3: ability for recruiting, right, their ability to recruit top level

915
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: wrestlers repeatedly to that camp, yeah, and turn them into

916
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: champions is nothing short or remarkable. Yeah.

917
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: Like if I was going to college and DC was

918
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: the recruiter, I think you could probably get me to

919
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: go to that school.

920
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: It's amazing. R.

921
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: Jake Clifford in two minutes.

922
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: But while we are waiting for our j I want

923
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: to shine some light on Tony Ferguson.

924
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 5: And while we do that, I.

925
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: Just want to reveal the bloody shirt is here in

926
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: my possession. I mean, that's the back of my shirt

927
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: can flow. And for the audio folks, I'm gonna stop

928
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: this real soon because you can't see it. But if

929
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 4: you missed it on the broadcast, we actually showed this

930
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: on pay per view. That was a blood shower, right,

931
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: Unlike anything I had ever experienced. It felt like it

932
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: was coming down from the rafters. It was all in

933
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: my hair. Logan loved the blood on the table. Our

934
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: makeup artist, Susie went to wipe it off, and he's like, no, no, no.

935
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 5: Leave it, leave it, leave it.

936
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean my Pennis card, which I had it here,

937
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: my Anthony Pettis car was covered in blood. But dude,

938
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: Pettis lost a lot of blood and it was right

939
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: in front of us, and the momentum was such that

940
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: with meat leaning floward, meat leaning forward, it all got

941
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 4: on the back of the shirt.

942
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: So we're gonna figure out what we're gonna do.

943
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: We're gonna get those fighters to sign and maybe give

944
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 4: it away for charity here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

945
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 4: But far more salient than the bloody shirt can flow

946
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: is Tony Ferguson, six months after a very invasive knee

947
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: surgery and without the benefit of physical therapy. I mean,

948
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: you talk about a guy who beats to the tune

949
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: of his own drum. He handled all of his rehabilitation

950
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: on his own and came back six months after that

951
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: surgery and beat Anthony showtime Pettis. There just aren't a

952
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: lot of human beings that can mentally get to a

953
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: place that Tony Ferguson can get to, And I think

954
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 4: we're damn lucky to have.

955
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. I think you tweeted something.

956
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: He's a treasure. He absolutely is that. The guy is unbelievable.

957
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: What really made me hesitant in that fight was the

958
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: fact that Tony was coming off that knee surgery. He

959
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: was coming off a terrible knee injury, and I thought

960
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: Pettis was gonna have the speed advantage in this one.

961
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: And sometimes Tony gets off to a slow start. He

962
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: got off to a little bit of a slow start

963
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: against Anthony, and there were some scary moments there. But

964
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: the chin, the heart, the determination again, just that is

965
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: a guy who is one of the most impressive and

966
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: exciting fighters I've ever seen in my life. Ferguson is

967
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: an absolute beast. This is a guy who, again, if

968
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: I were to choose a team that would like back

969
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: me up, I would choose Tony Ferguson on that TV

970
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: He'd be one of my first choices. I can't believe

971
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: what he was able to accomplish in the UFC. You

972
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: look at his win streak right now, in the toughest

973
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: division in the UFC. The fact that he has that

974
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: kind of a win streak shows what kind of a

975
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: fire he is. And he did it against a very

976
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: motivated and dangerous Anthony Pettis. Some people were criticizing, unfortunately

977
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: Anthony Pettis for giving up. First of all, that's a

978
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: lot of people who have never experienced a broken hand.

979
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: He's not out there against just anybody. Do you realize

980
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: that Tony Ferguson was chasing him down for every second

981
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: of every fight. If Anthony Pettis was fighting let's say

982
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: a normal human being, oh yeah, I would say, hey, Anthony,

983
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: you know what, You're fine. Just listen, move around, dance around,

984
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 3: use your kicks, use your other hand, you know, take

985
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: him down. Maybe against Tony Ferguson. That was the right choice.

986
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: If I'm Duke rufus you made the right choice. Kudos

987
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: to you, sir for protecting your fighter because it was

988
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: going to get worse, and it was going to get

989
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: way worse. You don't leave your fighter out there with

990
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: one hand against a guy named Tony Ferguson.

991
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 4: Right, whatever species other than human being, he may be

992
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: absolutely and as we said on the broadcast too, we

993
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: bemoan the fact that more corn men women don't do

994
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: this when their fighter is clearly in a compromised state.

995
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: So maybe learn some lessons with the Paul Felder Mike

996
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: Perry fight, even though I supported his actions that night

997
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 4: as well. But showtime, Pettis will be back, and certainly

998
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 4: there was a victory within reach for him there too,

999
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: as well had Tony on the ropes. But the recoverability

1000
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: of Ferguson is absolutely incredible. All right now with us

1001
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: on the guest line as promised, Sky have a great

1002
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: deal of respect for as a former pro fighter. Just

1003
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: an MMA mind overall, and it's a mind I wanted

1004
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: to pick today. So as such, r J Clifford Serious

1005
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 4: XM Radio joins us live. R J Clifford, how are you, sir?

1006
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 8: I am doing fantastic and I've got a UFC two

1007
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 8: twenty nine hangover. I never thought I would experience it.

1008
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: What a crazy night, dude.

1009
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: You were burning off the hangovers on that treadmill. Always

1010
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: that's the vodka. R J.

1011
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1012
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: Oh?

1013
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, what's the Homer Simpsons line? The same was like

1014
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 8: a drug, but was really like a drug? Was the drugs? Yeah?

1015
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: So, man, are your Oakland Raiders terrible?

1016
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 6: Oh?

1017
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 8: You really know how to warm up your guests. An

1018
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 8: back to the jugular huh? Look when I knew that

1019
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 8: there would be question marks. But when like the two

1020
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 8: things we thought for sure we'd have in our like

1021
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 8: like the the two strengths that we for sure thought

1022
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 8: we had, and that was sustainability and accuracy at quarterback

1023
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 8: and a good offensive line. When those two things are

1024
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 8: falling apart in it, yeah, then we know we're screwed.

1025
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 8: Like I can, it's just two talented of a team

1026
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 8: to be this bad.

1027
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm just ugly so far. But thankfully our audience doesn't

1028
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: give a rip about it. They care about Connor McGregor

1029
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: and Avian Ramago Medov and the fight and the melee

1030
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: and everything else. You know, I still think I'm processing

1031
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: a lot of what happened. I feel like i've seen

1032
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: all the video now. You tweeted some thoughts about what

1033
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: happened after the fight Saturday. Among them, Connor jumped into

1034
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: a cage and slapped a ref and you all cheered.

1035
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: Of course, that was in another promotion, Kabib jumps out

1036
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: of an octagon and hits a fighter and y'all clutch

1037
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: your pearls.

1038
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: Pick one. So I like what you're saying.

1039
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying largely, I agree, but do

1040
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: you care to elaborate on that tweet if you would, Yeah, I.

1041
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 8: Think there's some context here. Look, I'm gonna say a

1042
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 8: lot of things. Is gonna sound like I'm trying to

1043
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 8: make excuses for Kuldbe, and that's certainly not what I'm doing.

1044
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 8: But there's obviously a lot of blame to go around,

1045
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 8: right Kabebe number one, of course, because he was a

1046
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 8: spark that lit that powder. Keg number two. I think

1047
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 8: Las Vegas Metro Police has a lot to answer for.

1048
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 8: I mean, you're at a giant event. There were fights

1049
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 8: at you know, smaller fights at the Wayns before you knew.

1050
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 8: It was kind of a wild situation. They should have

1051
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 8: been prepared for something like this. If they can't corral

1052
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 8: one fighter, everyone in that audience, all twenty thousand people

1053
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 8: in that room were looking at Kabibe. And if you

1054
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 8: can't corral a guy who's heated and jumping over an

1055
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 8: octagon cage, I mean, who else are you looking at?

1056
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 8: What else are you doing? That should be what you're doing.

1057
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 8: And of course there's plenty of blame to go around

1058
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 8: for Connor, for the UFC T Mobile Center security, A

1059
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 8: lot of people would be blamed here, But I think

1060
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 8: there's the context here is Look, Connor has done so

1061
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: many similar things, and so often it was allowed as oh,

1062
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 8: he's a master promoter, and the fight bigger, and what's

1063
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 8: the big deal. Kabef jumps the cage wall and now

1064
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 8: everyone's acting like it's Steph Cong five. But it's what

1065
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 8: he did was wrong. But there's so much more blame

1066
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 8: to go around, and and Connor he created an environment

1067
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 8: of this right Like Jordan Bring did a fantastic breakdown

1068
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 8: the err six tent post five short after the fight,

1069
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 8: talking about how kuld be he's from Dakistan and one

1070
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 8: almost war torn, just terrible places in the world where

1071
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 8: it's constant civil war and oppression, and just that that

1072
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 8: region of the like that area of the world is

1073
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 8: just such a terrible, terrible place to go with so

1074
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 8: much violence. That's what he knows. And so when you

1075
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 8: come at him talking about his faith, his father, his loyalty,

1076
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 8: his culture, his government, you come at him with that.

1077
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 8: They don't know what pro wrestling is like. There isn't

1078
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 8: Monday night raw in their mind. This is this is

1079
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 8: life to them. And so when you open up that door,

1080
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 8: you can't be overly shocked when someone walks through, but

1081
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 8: again not condoning what Kabib did. But like, like, if

1082
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: I get mugged walking to church on a Sunday morning,

1083
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 8: there's really nothing I can do. If I get mugged

1084
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 8: leaving a dive bar on the wrong side of the town,

1085
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 8: hammered two am walking through a dark alley, bragging about

1086
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 8: how much money I have in my pocket. That didn't

1087
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 8: excuse the mugger. But I put I made some bad

1088
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 8: decisions that put myself in a bad situation. And that's

1089
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 8: what Connor did.

1090
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a trained fighter. At the end of

1091
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: the day, Like you know what I mean, he wasn't

1092
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 3: going to sit down and have a cup of tea

1093
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: with him. So, uh listen, man, this storyline is now

1094
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: even crazier. Right, So if you're a promoter, do you

1095
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: make the rematch?

1096
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 8: I look back to the Riddick bo Andrew Gillotta bral

1097
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 8: from nineteen ninety nine or nineteen ninety six that was

1098
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 8: worse than this. Eight policemen were injured, nine spectators were hospitalized.

1099
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 8: You know what happened three months later? Rematch? Yeah, so

1100
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 8: I am for sure. Oh, look, Kabe, the best case

1101
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 8: in I think for Kabeb is that he just gets

1102
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 8: a one year suspension of the NASK Nevada, the Effact Commission.

1103
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 8: I think that's if I'm Kabeb, that's the best case scenario.

1104
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 8: That's assuming there's not other legal ramifications for him. So

1105
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 8: it's gonna be down the line. Everything's gonna need to

1106
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 8: calm down before they're gonna put the rematch together. But

1107
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 8: I mean this, this fight was put together based on

1108
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 8: violence outside of the cage to start with. Who's to

1109
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 8: say it's not gonna happen again?

1110
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting. I mean again, if Habib is punished

1111
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: for this, obviously, did that takes steam out of that rematch?

1112
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: H yeah? Uh So do you think anything's gonna happen

1113
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: to Connor in this? Do you think he gets fine?

1114
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 8: I don't know. I in my gut, in my heart

1115
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 8: of hearts, I feel like even though Kobeb is mostly simplame,

1116
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna be the scapegoat here. I think

1117
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 8: he's gonna be punished as if he's one hundred percent

1118
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 8: to blame. I think Nevada is gonna come down on him.

1119
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 8: The Governor of Nevada was in the building like he

1120
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 8: witnessed this whole thing and had to flee for you know,

1121
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 8: who's running away as if he, you know, was feary injury.

1122
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 8: So I think they're gonna come down in Kabebe and

1123
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 8: they're gonna you know, again, a lot of people are

1124
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 8: to blame, but I think the bat is gonna come

1125
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 8: down on Kubev specifically as if he is solely to

1126
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 8: blame and make example of them and say this, we

1127
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 8: just don't allow this in Nevada. You're gonna take You're

1128
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 8: gonna take some meat for it, and you're gonna be punished,

1129
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 8: and we're gonna hit you in the wallet. We're gonna

1130
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 8: hit you with a suspension.

1131
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: Okay. So if it is a suspension, and it's a

1132
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 3: suspension for a year, is it inevitable that they strip

1133
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: abibove his belt? And then now we're looking for a

1134
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: new champ at one fifty five and Connor is kind

1135
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: of hanging out there.

1136
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, if you're suspen the UFC is all

1137
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 8: like that athletic mission can't strip Kabebe. That's it's the

1138
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 8: UFC's belt. But clearly like the the UFC has always

1139
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 8: stripped champions and they're under suspension, whether it's for you know,

1140
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 8: other problems or you know performance ancings. Yeah, they always

1141
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 8: get they always get stripped. So yeah, as if the

1142
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 8: one hundred fifty five pounds divisions, you know, tidle situation

1143
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 8: wasn't murky enough as it is. I mean, you had

1144
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: Connor stripped Ferguson with the interim belt. He gets stripped,

1145
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 8: and then now you put Connor kebeb Connor loses Kabebe suspended,

1146
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 8: and you got Ferguson fresh off of his murder scene

1147
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 8: with Anthony Pettis, who in my opinion, never should have

1148
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 8: been stripped the first place, and is the best live

1149
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 8: with in the world. So whatever happens next, it better

1150
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 8: involve Tony Ferguson. I'm gonna riot.

1151
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: Ferguson Connor early twenty nineteen. That's my prediction.

1152
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 4: It was a murder scene though serious x mzar ja

1153
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: A Clifford with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

1154
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: I want to throw this tweet your way from one

1155
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: of our listeners, Danny, and I hope I'm not putting

1156
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: you on the spot. But you know, as I've told

1157
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 4: you to your face, you're a smarter man than I,

1158
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: So maybe you know something about this and it has

1159
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 4: to do with the pre fight talk from Connor McGregor.

1160
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: Does freedom of speech in the United States and Kenny

1161
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 4: chime in on this mean absolutely everything is unchecked Obviously

1162
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: in Augustan, there's a social code outside the law that

1163
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: deals with such levels of disrespect, and I'm pretty sure

1164
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: in the UK some of the comments fall under the

1165
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: Hate and Act for Verbal Abuse. Any insight on that,

1166
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: RJ and just general thoughts on if you think Connor

1167
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: McGregor will be rained in whatsoever when it comes to

1168
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: what comes out of his mouth.

1169
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 8: Well, with what happened specifically on Saturday, let me address

1170
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 8: that and then gets the bigger picture. After fighting is

1171
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 8: the one sport where this shouldn't happen. Like all the

1172
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 8: trash talk that goes on, you eventually get to get

1173
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 8: your paws on the guy who's talking trash to you,

1174
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 8: like Kabid beat the crap out of Connor McGregor for

1175
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 8: almost twenty minutes, Like that should have been the come

1176
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 8: up and that should have been it. Like all this

1177
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 8: trash talk leads to that moment. You talk trash and tennis,

1178
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 8: what's the resolution? Oh, I beat you in straight sets?

1179
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 8: So what I mean, that's why The Ultimate Fighter on

1180
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 8: paper was the perfect reality show when it first came out,

1181
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 8: because all reality TV is conflict, and at the end

1182
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 8: of The Ultimate Fighter you get a resolution like if

1183
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 8: the Real Housewives of God Knows where yell at each other,

1184
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 8: someone cries and the cut the commercial and the Ultimate

1185
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 8: Fighter and the yelling each other and they fight at

1186
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 8: the end, Like that should have been your resolution. That

1187
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 8: should have been Kabebe's dedication for everything that was said

1188
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 8: to him. He embarrassed Connor McGregor, He smashed Connor McGregor

1189
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 8: is one of the ones Ali Acquinta did better against

1190
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 8: Connor against Kebevan than Connor McGregor did. That should have

1191
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 8: been enough and yet for whatever reason, it wasn't for Kabeb.

1192
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 8: So when it comes to a bigger picture, I don't

1193
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 8: I don't see Connor McGregor completely changing. We have seen

1194
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 8: Connor humble after losses before. I remember with Nate Dias

1195
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 8: and they did the rematch. He was still Connor, but

1196
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: he wasn't behaving the way he did when he was

1197
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 8: like building up to the Floyd Mayweather fight. So I

1198
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 8: think Connor will self correct on his own at least

1199
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 8: initially and then depending on whether he wins or loses. Uh,

1200
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 8: it'll depend what kind of Connor we.

1201
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: Get after that, Argie, I agree with you. The only

1202
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: problem is that this went beyond just the two fighters involved.

1203
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 3: It was went back and forth with camps, with the

1204
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: with the coaches, with the with the fighters involved in

1205
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: both camps. You know, this was this was also bigger

1206
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: than both those guys. And again, if Connor is insulting

1207
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: not only Kabebe himself personally, but insulting his country, his religion,

1208
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: I mean that's what that's why it got worse, right,

1209
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean there were other people involved. He went after

1210
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: Dylan for a reason, you.

1211
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 8: Know, the yeah, yeah, and in the camps, I mean,

1212
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 8: Pale and Dan's like how many times we have to

1213
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 8: say this freaking guy's name. I mean, how this guy

1214
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 8: gets involved in all this stuff is beyond me. But

1215
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 8: it's it's that escalation too, right, Like you said, I

1216
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 8: mean it was it was Kabebe's like brother and cornerman

1217
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 8: that did the most damage. Right, They were the ones

1218
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 8: that were that were arresting since to jail, and obviously,

1219
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 8: as as reported, Connor didn't didn't press charges, so they

1220
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 8: were all released, but that they were the ones that

1221
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 8: escalated all this. Obviously it was Kubide that started it,

1222
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 8: but it was it was those camps that had a

1223
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 8: problem as well. So it's not just Connor and kuld

1224
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 8: Be that you have to worry about in the rematch

1225
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 8: or anything moving forward. It's you know, we'll see how

1226
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 8: selective the UFC is and who they allow around their

1227
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 8: fighters and around their organization. I mean, all these fighters

1228
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 8: have kind of a sphere of influence and some of them,

1229
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 8: some of them maybe should have quite the access that

1230
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 8: they do.

1231
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: At the Sublime on Twitter wrote to us, what's your

1232
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: opinion on Connor McGregor cheating multiple times throughout the fight.

1233
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: R j I was surprised that Herb Dean was issuing

1234
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: soft warnings or no warnings at all. Connor was able

1235
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: to interlock the toes end of the fence without punishment

1236
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: at times, there was an illegal strike on the ground.

1237
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: Did you see any of that and have any opinion

1238
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 5: on it?

1239
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 8: Yes, the fence grabs and the toe grabs we see

1240
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 8: that often, right. The big egregious one was that illegal

1241
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 8: kneed that Connor threw Kavive when Kabe was inside Mount

1242
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 8: working the kimura, Connor threw a knee. If you go

1243
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 8: back and I know you were in the building, John Annick.

1244
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 8: The very first Elite XC show in Mississippi, the main

1245
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 8: event ended because Henzo Gracie gotkneeded in the head by

1246
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 8: Frank Shamrock in literally that exact same position. The fight

1247
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 8: ended no contest because it was illegal, an illegal strike.

1248
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 8: Do you remember who was the referee in.

1249
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: That fight, Oh, that Herb.

1250
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 8: It was Herb Dean.

1251
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 6: So that was literally the.

1252
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 8: Exact same situation and heard made the correct call back

1253
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 8: then he didn't make the correct call this time. I

1254
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 8: mean that was that was about as blatant as it comes.

1255
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 8: That was as clearly as an illegal strike as it comes.

1256
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 8: And he was trying to get out of a bad situation.

1257
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 8: It wasn't, at least at least with Frank Shamrock. He

1258
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 8: was just baffled and didn't know what to do because

1259
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 8: he's getting held down for for ten minutes. Connor was like,

1260
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 8: holy shit, I'm gonna get Kimurad. Maybe I can get

1261
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 8: out of this with the knee strike to the head

1262
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 8: and and no repercussions felled out. Fortunately didn't, and you know,

1263
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 8: and the fight in any other way. But if you

1264
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 8: stop and think about it, if her would have stopped

1265
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 8: that fight where it could be the jumped you know

1266
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 8: it was a and it ended in disqualification. Could be

1267
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 8: have jumped over that wall? Who we have gotten that

1268
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 8: crazy melee again? What if? And hyper seltical you know

1269
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 8: situations and her deeam obviously going to predict what was

1270
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 8: going to happen, but if the right hole was going

1271
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 8: to be made, be having very very different conversations on

1272
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 8: this Monday morning.

1273
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: There were some short scrabbing as well that was going

1274
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: on that was missing.

1275
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right, r J.

1276
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: Final thing I promise in terms of a fight between

1277
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: Cup even her, Mongo Medov and Tony Ferguson, I think

1278
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: that's the dream fight for most avid mixed martial arts

1279
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: fans and has been really dating to twenty fifteen when

1280
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: Joe Silva told me in a van back to the

1281
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: hotel after Ferguson to beat Barboza that that was the

1282
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: fight he wanted to make. I think that people obviously

1283
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: they lean on the recent history and Tony had a

1284
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: great performance as Dave Kabib. How competitive do you think

1285
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Speaker 4: a fight would be between those two men.

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Speaker 8: That is the fight of all fights. They've tried to

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Speaker 8: make it four times, and I don't care if it

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Speaker 8: takes another forty times for them to make that fight.

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Speaker 5: You do it.

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Speaker 8: It's very similar to the Brian Artega Max Hallway situation

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Speaker 8: where Otego is like, look, I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 8: take a late notice report opponent. I'm gonna I'm gonna fight.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna I'm gonna fight Max all the way. That's

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Speaker 8: the fight I want to fight. The fans want, and oftentimes,

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Speaker 8: like I always try to look at things from the

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Speaker 8: standpoint of the fan, right, not from the fighter, not

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Speaker 8: from the USC, but from the fan. And when fighters

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Speaker 8: pull out and you don't get the matchups that you want,

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00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 8: sometimes you're like, hey, just just someone give me a fight.

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Speaker 8: I want to watch a fight on pay per view

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Speaker 8: this Saturday. But when it comes to really really big

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Speaker 8: fights like Ortega versus Holloway, you wait. And there's no

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Speaker 8: bigger example than in my opinion, Tony Ferguson to be

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Speaker 8: do market madeuff. I mean, that's one of the best

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Speaker 8: lightweight fights of all time. That is two guys that

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Speaker 8: are the top ten pounds four pounded in my mind,

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Speaker 8: maybe top five, both in their primes, both at the

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Speaker 8: peaks of their careers, both with two of the longest

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Speaker 8: win streaks in the history of the UFC. I mean

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Speaker 8: that is that is the fight, and I think there's

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Speaker 8: no better opponent for Kabebe's and his streak than Tony Ferguson.

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Speaker 8: He's about as resilient as they come. And we talked

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Speaker 8: about it, you know, we were in the gym that

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Speaker 8: Friday morning. John. All it takes is one take down

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Speaker 8: from Kabeb to completely zap an opponent. And he did

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Speaker 8: it to Conor McGregor. He or boasted it to Michael Johnson.

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Speaker 8: The one takedown, don't survive when they stand up, they're

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Speaker 8: not the same guy. Tony Ferguson is newtant healing powers.

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Speaker 8: Is the one guy that get taken down, get beaten up,

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Speaker 8: and still come back just as strong.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable. Unbelievable, that guy.

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Speaker 4: I've had fourteen and one in the UFC, three more

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Speaker 4: wins on top all by finish our J Clifford on Twitter,

1324
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: you can find a mat r J Clifford MMA. He

1325
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 4: doesn't post ken flow in his Twitter bio all the

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: times he's on the radio, but I know he's doing

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Speaker 4: a show with AJ Hawk and sounds like he got

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Speaker 4: a lot of different irons in the fire.

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Speaker 5: My man.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I think I disagree with you on

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Speaker 4: is just your heavy criticism of law enforcement, because you're right,

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Speaker 4: there was that one guy, and maybe you do assign

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Speaker 4: one guy to each fighter. But dude, I mean they

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Speaker 4: prevented you know, I'm not saying mass casualty, but dude,

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Speaker 4: they prevented all serious injury. I mean, the bodies were

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Speaker 4: in the octagon, quip. I think, all things considered, law

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Speaker 4: enforcement did a pretty good job.

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Speaker 8: I guess it could have been worse, but I think

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Speaker 8: if I would be I would be very very disappointed John,

1340
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Speaker 8: if if Las Vegas Metro Police doesn't at least have

1341
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Speaker 8: a meeting about this and say, all right, how can

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Speaker 8: we prevent this from happening next time? If there isn't

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01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 8: some sort of policy change or heightened security or some

1344
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 8: sort of training, I mean, this should be this should

1345
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 8: be a wake up call of some kind that this

1346
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 8: is a possibility with sporting events and not just and

1347
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 8: not just MMA. I That's that's another thing I'm hearing,

1348
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 8: is just oh, this is this is MMA, this is

1349
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 8: so bad now. It's at the Palace in two thousand

1350
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 8: and four or five, fans Boston Bruins, New York Rangers

1351
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 8: at Magine Square Garden in seventy nine, fights with fans

1352
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 8: the Miami Florida International game from two thousand and six,

1353
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 8: when fools are taking off their head care and just reckon.

1354
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Clen Bauer, Jeff Gordon twent the fucking NASCAR.

1355
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 8: It happened, Nascar, it happens. So like, let's not pretend

1356
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 8: this is an mm A problem at a menstro police

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 8: with the raiders come into town, they're becoming more of

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 8: a sporting uh, you know, a sporting city. They they

1359
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 8: need to be prepared for situations like Saturdays.

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Speaker 3: We need laser guns. Hey RJ, By the way, what

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Speaker 3: we That's like the best picture of you I've ever

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: seen in my life. I mean, the guy looks phenomenal

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: in this picture. He's never looked this good. So whatever

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: picture you sent us man gets congrats.

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Speaker 8: Yeah see what photo it is? But I can only guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you need to go on YouTube and watch

1367
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 4: then and Floring podcasts on video so you can just

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 4: look out how glorious you look.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for the time man, great job today. When

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Speaker 5: are you next? On the radio?

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Speaker 8: Tuesday Night? Every Tuesday and Thursday from six to eight Eastern,

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01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 8: I host the host NNA Tonight with AJ Hawk, and

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01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 8: we have a new host coming to the channel. I'm

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 8: not supposed to say who it is, but is an

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 8: active fighter that you guys know and respect, and we're

1376
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 8: very excited to have him joining us here in the

1377
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 8: near future.

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 4: Nice all right, you gave us the gender. I'm going

1379
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 4: to see if I can figure it out by the

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Speaker 4: end of the day.

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Speaker 5: R J. Clifford, Thank you, buddy. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks.

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Speaker 6: Ells.

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01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 4: All right, a couple other items here Ken Flow and

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01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: then time permitting, we'll get into some of these other performances.

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: You could be sure we are not going to short

1386
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 4: change Derek Lewis, but Chill Sonon's trash talk to Anderson Silva, right,

1387
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Speaker 4: I remember being somewhat offended as a guy who sort

1388
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 4: of was going to Brazil all the time, right, and

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: when he's talking about different things, and Anderson Silva after

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: the fact obviously didn't retaliate and handle things in a

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 4: much different way than Ben Mago Mattop. Are you able

1392
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Speaker 4: to quantify the difference between the trash talk of Connor

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: McGregor and hill Son. And I mean, Ray Longo told

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01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 4: me this morning he thinks that Connor's just cut so

1395
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 4: much deeper. I mean, is that the side that you

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Speaker 4: fall on?

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Speaker 3: I would think so. But you know, listen, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of pride in Brazil as well. Yeah, and there

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: are a lot of people that were very upset about that.

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: You know, he was insulting his family, he was insulting

1401
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: his friends and all that stuff. And yeh, listen to

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01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: two different people. I mean you hear Anderson Silva talk.

1403
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: He's very soft spoken, He's very relaxed, he's very chill.

1404
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: Habib not so much. He not so much, you know.

1405
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: And again when you're talking about, you know, a hot

1406
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: button issue like you know, the cultural the cultural thing

1407
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: and religion. You know, he's a very devout muscle. This

1408
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 3: is the guy who he never never drinks. You know,

1409
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: he's not training during Ramadan. He takes his religion very

1410
01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: very serious, very religious man, very dedicated family man. Beam's

1411
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: just a different dude than Anderson Silva. Everyone's a little

1412
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: bit different. And yeah, yeah, I kind of knew that

1413
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna fly, but I wasn't exactly sure how Anderson

1414
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: Silva was going to respond either. After that fight, and

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 3: you know, I think he actually went down on his

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 3: knees and bowed a jail and ye was super respectful, respectful.

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: So again, everybody's different, Everyone's going to handle those emotions differently.

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was that.

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 4: This tweet from my arms are open talking about Connor

1420
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 4: McGregor building up to the fight, just the aggression and

1421
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 4: nastiness he showed in the build talking about stomping on

1422
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 4: unconscious skulls, brutal. I know he's selling a fight in

1423
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: mental warfare, but it creates a bad taste that boiled

1424
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 4: over look at all the fan brawls. Also things like

1425
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 4: saying I'm gonna stomp on your unconscious skull. I mean

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: those things to me, I don't get too caught up

1427
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 4: in right, it's the stuff that, you know, even Dylan

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: Danis's T shirt that says, you know, if jiu jitsu

1429
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: was shit, it would be called sambo, you know, or

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01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 4: just certain things that are actually picking at specific things

1431
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: more than just saying, you know, I'm gonna kill you

1432
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: or I'm gonna end your life.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is the problem, John, is that this

1434
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: is happening across the board. You look at the kind

1435
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: of hateful venom that is on YouTube comments, you see

1436
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: on social media like Twitter at Instagram. People are very mean.

1437
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: People are very mean. It's one thing to say something

1438
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: in a joking manner and joke around. That's fine, poking fun, right,

1439
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: But when you're saying hateful things, when you're saying violent

1440
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: things and you're threatening people, that's not cool. And it

1441
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: seems like it's getting worse. And it's happening in the

1442
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: political domain. And once that happens out there, when it's

1443
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: happening in that arena, it's certainly going to trickle down

1444
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: to everything else. And it's already been happening. It continues

1445
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: to get worse, and it's something we don't need because

1446
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: once you see that it's acceptable amongst certain politicians or

1447
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: certain people in political power or you know, it's only

1448
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: gonna get worse. And that's the unfortunate thing.

1449
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 4: Tweet here from Susie Stormborne. That's a fun name to

1450
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 4: say in a Boston accent. Has Susie stompbom Stop Susie

1451
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 4: fucking stombon. How long does the Commission investigation take He's

1452
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: probably listen to this, like, what the fuck is wrong

1453
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 4: with this guy?

1454
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: He is underslept.

1455
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: Do you think Kabib's and his cornerman's punishment may change

1456
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 4: now that more angles of the postfight maylee have surfaced. Well,

1457
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: no punishment has even been handed down, but you can

1458
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 4: be sure they are going to have access to all

1459
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: of the video and I think for a lot of

1460
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 4: people it's pretty incriminating. So we'll see how it all

1461
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: goes down. And then finally here from Dan Spencer, did

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01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: anyone consider disqualification at the end of the bout? I've

1463
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 4: seen fights where fighting after the stoppage has resulted in

1464
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 4: a DQ for unsportsmanlike conduct. I think Kenny, he's talking

1465
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: about him with Connor, not necessarily what he did outside.

1466
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: We had all the chaos we could handle. I mean,

1467
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: could you imagine if all of those sudden hearb I.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: Tell you what. I tell you what when when they

1469
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: were holding on to the belt and they were kind

1470
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: of waiting for the announcement, I said, are they gonna

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: do this? Are they gonna Is it gonna be a DQ?

1472
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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1473
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 6: You know?

1474
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it didn't go that route. I was glad

1475
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: that they still announced Habib as the winner. That would

1476
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: have been even worse in my opinion. I mean, the

1477
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 3: crowd just would have gone ballistic.

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 4: Uh so, yeahright, So we touched on Tony Ferguson and

1479
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: Anthony Showtime Pettis. We touched on Kabebe obviously at length,

1480
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: Dominic Reyes a big win over over in Saint Prue.

1481
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis against Alexander Volkov. Let me start with Volkov

1482
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 4: and then we are gonna give the Black Beast all

1483
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 4: the love you want to. All Alexander Volkov needed to

1484
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 4: do was get on a specialized bicycle and run around

1485
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 4: the octagon for a little bit of time, and he

1486
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 4: could have changed his life profoundly financially, potentially fought for

1487
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 4: the UFC heavyweight title and talk who was wrestling coach

1488
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 4: Kenny Johnson after the fact. You know, you get your

1489
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: athletes so close in a title eliminator to winning a

1490
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 4: fight on points, and yet the fighter in Alexander Volkov

1491
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 4: made a bad decision and he paid.

1492
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 8: For it dearly.

1493
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: I love the fact that he was going forward. I

1494
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 3: love the fact that that fighting spirit inside him was

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: propelling him to move forward and try to finish Derek Lewis.

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Speaker 3: But you just you didn't do your homework obviously, because

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Speaker 3: Derek Lewis is always dangerous. He's a guy that's so

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: big and strong and he's sneaky fast that if you

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01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 3: sleep on him for a second, you'll be sleeping yourself.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you kind of had the inclination that

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 3: it might happen. He was kind of baiting him a

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: little bit. He was playing ropodope a few times, acting

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: like he was hurt, and he swung for the fences

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: trying to take Volkov's head off. And yeah, man, what

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: a comeback win for Derek Lewis. Man and Volkov has

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: to be devastated even today, just look back knowing that

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: he had the whole fight one and I agree, if

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: he kind of just danced around and kept Lewis on

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 3: the outside, he would have won that fight. I don't

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01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 3: know why he didn't utilize more kicks and more long

1511
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: range weapons there. I think he was going in for

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: either a hook or an uppercut there, which is Derek

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 3: Lewis's range, and man did he pay for it.

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 6: Wow.

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 4: Cautionary tail in terms of betting heavyweight MMA dude, just

1516
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 4: be careful for that. That's all I'm gonna say. Crazy

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 4: but for Derek lewis Man and say what you want

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: about his cardio and people will. And it's not necessarily

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01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: that he's not putting in the right work. I mean,

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 4: I think certainly he could put in more of it.

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: But there's never been any denying his heart. He's never

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01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 4: looking for a way out. Like other fighters that maybe

1523
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: we've criticized in the past. Rallied against Shamil abdurahimob rallied

1524
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 4: from certain situations in his career, a broken orbital, potentially

1525
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 4: in this particular fight, and I mean Hart can close

1526
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: that gap a little bit when the endurance isn't there,

1527
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 4: I guess.

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01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: Well, his balls is hot. That my favorite party, That

1529
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: was my favorite. That was my favorite part of the fight.

1530
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: His post fight speeches man on legendary at this point.

1531
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: He did show a lot of heart Man and he

1532
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: entertained during the fight and after Man legend the.

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01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: Black Beast with a big win, Michelle Watterson with a

1534
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: big win over police herod Juicy a formiga vicente Luke.

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01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 4: I mean, the night was just going so well, and

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: the next thing I knew I was calling a brawl

1537
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: and rushing us off the air without even recapping the

1538
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 4: fight between and Connor. And I give our production crew

1539
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 4: a lot of credit in navigating that situation, from Zach

1540
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 4: Candido and Michael Laplant, two guys you know on down

1541
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: just a lot of different layers to what we were

1542
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: dealing with on broadcast, and you saw we covered the brawl.

1543
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I was doing play by play on the

1544
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 4: brawl for a little while, and then of course we

1545
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 4: panned high and we weren't going to give further acknowledgment

1546
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 4: to what was going on. I think fans maybe would

1547
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 4: have liked us to have handled things differently on the broadcast,

1548
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 4: because had we shown replays, we would have been able

1549
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 4: to address the fact that Connor was not completely innocent.

1550
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anything he did really was wrong.

1551
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 4: He acted in self defense, but we could have had

1552
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 4: footage on the air that now everyone has seen anyway

1553
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 4: of Connor McGregor throwing a punch. So just so much

1554
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: stuff was going on, and I just I can't even

1555
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 4: believe it, man, I can't believe that the biggest fight

1556
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 4: and night in UFC history ended in that way. And

1557
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 4: I think in terms of these sports ramifications, Kenny, my

1558
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: thesis statement really has been that this thing could have

1559
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 4: been a whole lot worse. And yes, RJ seemed pretty

1560
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 4: convicted in thinking that a one years suspension or more

1561
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: was coming Kabib's way. I'm not sure, you know, I

1562
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 4: don't know in the fight game if he's gonna get

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 4: that type of punishment or not. But this is just

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 4: a crazy reality and something that we're gonna have to

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01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 4: deal with, and without a live event the next two weeks.

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 5: This thing's gonna have a lot of legs for some time.

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 5: I would think.

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 3: I agree, and I think there's gonna be some punishment, right,

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 3: There's no doubt there's gonna be some kind of monetary punishment.

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01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 3: But more than anything else, I don't think that this

1571
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 3: is a situation where, you know what people were hurts,

1572
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, we need to ban it from the sport

1573
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 3: or suspend him for a year. I think more than

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01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 3: anything else, they they need to send an example to

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: the other fighters, letting them know that this cannot happen again.

1576
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: And then if you do do this, there's gonna be

1577
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: some kind of heavy repercussion for you. So I think

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01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: they'll most likely give the punishment in the form of money,

1579
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: So Habim's gonna have to, you know, pay out a

1580
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: serious portion of maybe his paycheck or whatever, which is tough.

1581
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: And he'll certainly learn from this, and I think other

1582
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 3: fighters will as well. But it was just it was

1583
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 3: a bad night all the way around. And again, for

1584
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 3: those of you guys who have never worked in television,

1585
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 3: it is so chaotic back there. Getting the right camera angles,

1586
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 3: just producing a show is extreme chaos. And when something

1587
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: like that happens, a post fight brawl happens, all hell

1588
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: breaks loose everyone. So it's not exactly the easiest of

1589
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: things to go and show replays and you're just trying

1590
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: to figure out what the hell is going on, number one,

1591
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: and that people are safe, you know, the last thing

1592
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 3: on your mind is necessarily, yeah, getting the right angle

1593
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: to show people where it started and what happened.

1594
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, just crazy.

1595
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 4: We were so fixated on Kabebe and the next thing,

1596
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: you know, Connor McGregor's fighting off two guys in the octagon.

1597
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: I mean, just when you thought you had seen it

1598
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: all present the u UFC two twenty nine, and that's

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 4: a wrap on that. We'll be back next Monday, of course,

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 4: and I'm sure we're gonna continue this conversation, especially without

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 4: a UFC fight recap next week. But we did try

1602
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: to cover every angle. I've slept ninety minutes, I came

1603
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 4: home and worked for three hours, just trying to put

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: as much information as possible together. I'll leave you with

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 4: one nugget on Paul Daily, because I do feel bad

1606
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 4: for the guy, having never gotten back in the UFC.

1607
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 4: It was a forgettable moment. I thought he apologized in

1608
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: the right way. He's had twenty four pro fights, Kenny

1609
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 4: since he got cut from the UFC. He was twenty

1610
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 4: three to nine and two after the cost check fight

1611
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: forty sixty in two ever since so at least Paul

1612
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 4: Day has gone on to good things and continue to

1613
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 4: make money. And we'll see what happens with this one

1614
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 4: but great stuff today Ken Fla. You can see him

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 4: later today on The Rich Eisen Show. I believe MAYROCKYBJJ

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Speaker 4: dot Com. Thank you to our guest Ray Longo R J.

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Speaker 5: Clifford.

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Speaker 4: We will talk to you next Monday again. Keep those

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Speaker 4: tweets coming in at Anti Florian Pod. Anything we miss

1620
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Speaker 4: today or anything that you want to challenge us on

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Speaker 4: have a live television. Ladies and gentlemen, we love you

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Speaker 4: until next week for Ken Flow and the Crum John Anick,

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