1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: That's what he said. 4 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: That's what he said. Okay, we have great articles out 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: there on the Blue Jays and their superstar hitting coach 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: David Popkins. He's gotten a lot of attention, and he 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: actually spent a lot of time with the Dodgers. At first, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: he was trying to make it. He didn't make it. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Ends up hired by the Dodgers as a player coach 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: because they didn't have any coach spots. And Robert ben Skoyak, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: who's been involved with the Dodgers for a long time now, 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: called him and he was like, Hey, what are you doing. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, the Phillies are going to hire me 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 2: for a job within their minor league system. He's like, Nope, 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: you're coming to us. So he stopped that and he 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: got him. He's like, this guy special eventually moves on 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: to hitting coach of the Twins. Now he's with the 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. Great story, and the guys love him, and 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: they said the adjustments they're making are so much quicker 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: these days. But what I want to focus on here, 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Kratz with you first, because then you're going to jump 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: during the segment, at some point is bat speed. Bat 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: speed is now measurable. We have statistics for that that 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: came out. I believe last year for the first time, 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays were able to increase their bat speed. 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: And I want to add one thing to the mix 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: here from Brent Rooker because it's a big topic of 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: conversation and Rooker is one of the smartest brains in 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: the sport. And he tweeted about this, and of course 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: it got a ton of love. He was tweeting about 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: the fact that the concept is not new. He said, 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: the fact that the idea of quote, swinging the bat 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: faster is better is considered new age analytical thinking is insane. 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Gaining speed, power, force production has been beneficial for every 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: athlete and every sport since the beginning of time. Pitchers 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: who throw harder have higher ceilings. Golfers who swing the 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: club faster have higher ceilings. Running back to run faster 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: have higher ceilings, basketball players who jump higher have higher ceilings, etc. 39 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Does it mean that those who are bigger, faster, stronger 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: will automatically be better? 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: Of course not. 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Skill, mental makeup, competitive edge prep and a thousand other 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: things all play a massive part, and overall success. But 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: the fact that being more physically explosive and producing more 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: force gives you a greater chance for success has always 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: will always be true. Crats your thoughts. 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Thank you Brent for saying exactly what everybody was thinking. 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: And in no way am I trying to be like, 49 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: get off my lawn, old guy. But this is information 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: that I think you could look at it. I think 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: you look at it and say, Okay, the extremes from 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: last year, not this year. The extremes were John Carlos, Stanton, 53 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Luisa Rise. You're gonna say, Gee has a faster back. 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Everybody else is in the middle. There. The difference is 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: these numbers are so close. And when you're talking about 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: like increasing your bat speed, that's what everybody wants to do. 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: You'd hear it every year in August. Minor leagues, big leagues. 58 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You go up to the training You'll 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: go up to the strength guy. You're like, hey, I 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: want to cut some weight, get stronger, get faster, and 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: be more flexible. Well yeah, duh, that's the whole point. 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: You want to push yourself to the limit. I remember 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Mike Zanin was hurt when I went over to the race, 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: and he went in on one of their first like 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: biometric like room things that they were doing, and he 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: hit off the tee and he was hurt. So he 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: was like he was able to swing. I forget would 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: even he hurt, But obviously he was swinging, so it 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: wasn't anything crazy. But he started using like smaller bats, 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: He started using lighter bats to test the bat speed. 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: So with bat speed, with increased bat speed, there are negatives. 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: John Carlos Stanton has had last year. The fastest bat 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: speed this year was O'Neil Cruz. Those guys swing a 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: miss a lot. Why did they swing a miss a lot? 75 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Because they have fast bat speed, they should be able 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: to get to everything. Yes, but the bat stays in 77 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the zone a lot shorter amount of time, even if 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it's the same path as Luisa Rives stays in the zone. 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: So do you just blindly increase your bat speed. No, 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: you do it methodically and understanding what that extra bat 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: speed does. Do I have to stay to right center 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: instead of trying to drive the ball to center? Do 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I have to I'm a pool hitter. Adding more bat 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: speed for a guy like East Soak parades might not 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: be it because he always gets to the balls inside, 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: he always extends on the balls away. So just increasing 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: bat speed doesn't make you a better hitter, but it 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: is one of the compartments of it. And I think 89 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a way that analytically, guys that never played can't 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: see that, but they can say, hey, this is something, 91 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: this is a trend that works. But they also shouldn't 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: only evaluate guys on the fact that, Okay, if I 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: have a seventy four mount Our batspeed and Todd has 94 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: a seventy three mount Our bat speed, well aer Krafts 95 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: must be a better player. You look at the baseball 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: guards and Todd's trophy case. That will tell you that's 97 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: not the case. 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: I want to make a point here too, when we're 99 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: talking about bat speed, so people understand it's not like 100 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 3: so I'm in my stan's not here the bat speed. 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: It's when they're about to get on impact. So it's 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: it's a little shorter. If you can see, it's there 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: on impact like a tennis player when they hit it. 104 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: That's the impact. It's not starting from right here when 105 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: you're about to swing. It's the impact right when you're 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: about to meet the baseball. And I think That's what 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: people got to understand too. As a hitter. If people 108 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: are thinking about this and reading it and understanding it 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: and going through it, they're like, oh my god, he 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: must start his swing so hard as the swings. No, 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: the power comes from about a foot from the connection 112 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: and the whip through the zone and everything takes care 113 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: of it, the bat speed, the pitcher speed, the direction 114 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: of the baseball, where you're hitting the baseball. And I 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, I do lessons for kids and talk to 116 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: kids all the time. I tell them, just swing as 117 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: hard as you can. Let's see what happens. And we 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: go through a drill to see how hard they can 119 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: and they're they're swinging from their shoulder and their back hip. 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: I said, now go slow to the ball and try 121 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: and swing as hard as you can rate before your 122 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: impacting the ball. And you see a bigger difference. Yeah. 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: I think Brett ruckerd was really good at explanations. And 124 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: I think you know, when we're talking about this, this 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: is something that you know has been going on forever. 126 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: In my opinion, bats batsby how do we gain more bats? 127 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: Bid was the impact right before you hit the baseball, 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: And if you can master that you're gonna hit the 129 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: ball a lot harder. 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: I have a follow up, Is it helpful that you 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: have numbers? I think back to our conversation with Shane 132 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: Bieber yesterday Kratz and he's like, yeah, we kind of 133 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: joke around about how we're looking at the iPad and 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: we're checking out the numbers and we try not to 135 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: make it everything, but because it is nice to sometimes 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I felt felt good on that one 137 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: and then checked the numbers, and he's like, yeah, vertical 138 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: break good or spin rate on that one good. 139 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's so important you have numbers because we're 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: talking about fine, fine, I had it. I had it 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: pulled up here, I have to I'm gonna pull it 142 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: up again. I have I have all of this year's numbers. 143 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, last year's numbers I haven't pulled up right now. 144 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: John Carlos Stanton has eighty one point two mile an 145 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: hour average batspeed. That's not his peak, that's just his average. Okay, 146 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: then you start. Then you go down to number fifty 147 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: in the league, you're talking Willie Domas still above average 148 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: seventy three point six. When we go down to below average, 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys like Logan o'happy friend of the Show, 150 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Bo Naylor, Pete Crow Armstrong all at seventy point six. 151 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: So you're talking about a three mile an hour difference 152 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: in bat speed average. Seems like a lot, but it's 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: a very fine minute amount. So how do you make 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: your swing the most powerful and the most consistent? And 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I think that's where we miss some of these when 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: people say analytics, these numbers are awesome. I need to 157 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: know that if I you know, there was one point 158 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: in my career where you could have probably ground sawdust 159 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: out of the handle on my back because I would 160 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: hold it so hard. And the more you just let 161 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: that thing relax in your hands, the faster your bat 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: speed's gonna be. Now that's what I was told. If 163 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I had the numbers and said, okay, I'm gonna give 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: you the most like I'm holding this handle so hard, 165 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: swing and then you see it in a number and 166 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: you go, oh wait, I held that real loose in 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: my hands, and I had better bat speed. Now all 168 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can work from there and you're 169 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: not like wondering, well I swung light that time? I 170 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: held it light, but I still swung a miss because 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: the game's hard. The game is hard, but knowing that 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: you can go from there, it's a jumping off point 173 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, this makes me a better player because 174 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: my bat speed's better, But what are the issues that 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: come with it? 176 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: It's good stuff. Do you feel the same way where 177 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: if it was available you would take a little peak? 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: Yes? No, I mean I'm I'm the old school guy. Man. 179 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm just I was seeing and hit it. You're but 180 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: that's the thing. But that's kind of what helped me. 181 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: But at the same time, maybe I should have done 182 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more. I I always thought when I 183 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: saw it, like I too much information, Scott. I was 184 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: just my brain. I'm like, nah, I'm too fried already 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: to even think about anything else besides seeing a fastball 186 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: and hitting it and reacting you off speed them. If 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: you look at the back of my baseball card is 188 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: going to show you the power numbers and everything else. 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: I was really bad at hitting off speed pitches, and 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: I think maybe with a little bit of help, yeah, 191 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: maybe I could have instead of sitting fastball the whole time, 192 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: could have been ready for an off speed pitch and 193 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: took a chance. But it's just something that I couldn't 194 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: really get off of. So yeah, thanks for that. That 195 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: makes me feel better seeing those things on there. Yes, 196 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: I was. I was that guy Craty knew it too, 197 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: fastballs in, sliders away and what if the pitcher made 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: a mistake. I was getting to him that. 199 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, you made him pay, don't miss. But my 200 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: question is it's one thing in a game. Would you 201 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: use this at all, MVP? Would you use this in 202 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: the off season just to take a peek and see 203 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: what it's looking like and see if that changes things 204 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: for you? Because I get what you're saying in game, 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: and we have examples. I mean, most of the league 206 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: is like this, let's use tray a Savage. He's starting 207 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: Game one. He was asked about how he uses information 208 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: and he said, I'm old school and he's young. I mean, 209 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: he's one of the youngest starters ever in the postseason 210 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: in the World Series, I think second youngest ever to 211 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: start game one. But he said he can't do any 212 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: of that thinking during the game. He's like, I'm at 213 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: my best when I'm blacked out. I'm just feeling. That 214 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: doesn't mean he doesn't use any of that at other 215 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: times on his pen day or in the off season, right, 216 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, my guess is that he used information to 217 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: get to where he's at. He didn't even have a 218 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: splitter when he first got to school. So there are 219 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: ads made, There were pitch tweaks, there were mechanical tweaks, 220 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: and data and video cameras. All of that is very 221 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: helpful for this stuff. So that's my question to you. 222 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: If you're playing right now and it's the off season, 223 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, that's be the thing you want 224 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: to just like, do your swings, do your thing. Let's 225 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: just see what it's where it's at and track it 226 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: all off season. 227 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, we didn't have it. 228 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: We didn't have it, so it didn't matter, right, You're right, 229 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: But would you have would you have taken a peak? 230 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: Like if I'm if I'm here, right, I mean you're 231 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: training here at home and I'm with you, and I'm like, yeah, yo, 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring the bat speed machines whatever or 233 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: whatever the heck they use to measure it, right, the 234 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: stack cast machine. Do you want to? You want it 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: there so you can just see it's looking. 236 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: I think I would have loved seeing it. What I've 237 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: done with it, I don't know, you know what I mean, 238 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: I would buy Hey, listen, you know these are the 239 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: percentages in the zone where your hands need to be 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: this and that. I had really good hitting coaches and 241 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: they didn't really want to change anything. The couple of 242 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: things they wanted to change where I'm making contact with 243 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: the all and staying on a flat plane when I swung. 244 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily mean I was swinging flat, but it 245 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: kept my mind thinking that it was coming down to 246 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: the ball and getting back spin on it. But every 247 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: one of my swings was not like that. But my 248 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: mindset in VP was down to it long through. It 249 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: just down to it long through, get that back spinn 250 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: and go. And any numbers or metrics or videos that 251 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: were around, if any they knew that, you know one, 252 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't really going to help me because my swing 253 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: was unique as it was. I had an arm bar. 254 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: It's tough to get away from that if that arm 255 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: is not coming through and bending as it's coming through 256 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: for the motion of your swing. So for me, I 257 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: would have loved to see it, but at the same time, 258 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: it would have probably been more information in my head 259 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: what I really didn't need to know. 260 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: That's good info. 261 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: Right there. 262 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: That's why we have this show, or part of the 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: reason why. So hope you enjoyed it. If you have 264 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: any other questions about what Todd father or krat said, 265 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: I'll try and check it out at some point. Grandma 266 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: Cauley joining us right now now. Fantastic job always covering 267 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves. Grant. Great to have you on the 268 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: show and back again. This is a little earlier than 269 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: anticipated because of course we'll get into some Braves moves, 270 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: but we did want to give you a quick phone call. 271 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: We were like, hey, what should we do for our 272 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: one non World series segment. I'm like, who's going to 273 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: be the next manager of the Atlanta Braves? So I 274 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: just wanted to start there with you, Grant. What's the latest? 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: This story has barely gotten any national coverage because it's 276 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: World Series time. 277 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a really good question, I think in 278 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, because there was so much continuity 279 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: for the Braves for so long. You track it back 280 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: to nineteen ninety The Braves have had three managers since 281 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: Bobby Cox stepped out of the GM role and back 282 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: into the dugout. You had him for better than two decades. 283 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: You had Freddy Gonzalez for a few years, and you 284 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: had Brian Snitker for nearly a decade. This is just, 285 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: I won't say uncharted territory for the Braves, but it's 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: obviously going to be different. So I've been curious, you know, 287 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: what attention would be given to somebody who's already on staff, 288 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: whether that was a Walt Weiss or an Eddie Perez. 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: I think those have been I mean, obviously Walt is 290 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: man before. Eddie's been a managerial prospect for a while 291 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: and does some work in the Winter League, and I 292 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: think could be a manager one day. But then there's 293 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: just that case to be made for do you want 294 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: a different voice, do you want a younger voice? Do 295 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: you want somebody outside the organization who can just bring 296 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: something different in and see if that's something that could 297 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: kind of spark a club that has gone through the 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: last couple of years a lot of injuries, obviously, but 299 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: there's been some lack of performance that really bit them 300 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: offensively the past couple of years as well. So I 301 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: say all of that to say, I'm not sure that 302 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: there's a really clear answer. I think we've heard candidates 303 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: from David Ross to Mark de Rosa and others who 304 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: have big league experience. John Gibbons when he exited the 305 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: Mets job, obviously, I think that got attention because he 306 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: managed under Anthopolis in Toronto. But I don't know if 307 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: there's a clear front runner right now. I'm sure that 308 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: the Braves, as they always do, are moving silently and 309 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: having all the conversations they want to so that they 310 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: can break the news themselves. But it's a lot of 311 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: conjecture and a lot of different directions that could go. 312 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I guess, but isn't there a Braves archetype like when 313 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: you say, okay, Raves manager, can they go outside of 314 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: the of the what you just said Freddie Gonzalez, Bobby Cox, 315 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, snit and say okay this organization needs this. 316 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: If there's anybody that understands people, it's a it's Alexanthopolis. 317 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: But is the Braves as an organization able to go 318 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: away from that archetype of the older manager that's experienced 319 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: and now this roster his experience. They just need a 320 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: little prodding. Yeah, I think so. 321 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it's really kind of hard to handicap it 322 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: because if you want to track it back to twenty sixteen, 323 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: when Freddy Gonzalez was let go, Brian Snitker was only 324 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: meant to come in there and just keep the ship, 325 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: you know, afloat. Basically, they were going to reassess everything, 326 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: and I think by the end of twenty seventeen there 327 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: were some rumblings that, hey, you know, we're going to 328 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: go a whole new direction in twenty eighteen, and then 329 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: the Braves did. Because their general manager was let go, 330 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: they had to go through a whole bunch of turmoil 331 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and Alex Anthopolis came in and said, look, 332 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: I just want to get to know this guy. So 333 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: they built a relationship over time, and this I think 334 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: represents really Alex's first opportunity to kind of look at 335 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: it through his lens for what he wants and what 336 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: he values in the manager, and I think Brian Snicker 337 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: embodied a lot of those qualities. But they were kind 338 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: of thrown together at least to start with. They just 339 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: built a great partnership. So I think with that in mind, 340 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: there's really no impetus to just keep its status quo 341 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: or keep it with somebody who was under the Bobby 342 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: Coxs coaching tree. But on the flip side of that coin, 343 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: I'll also tell you that's a pretty good coaching tree. 344 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: So if you do get somebody from there, I think 345 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: it will still bring that continuity and that voice that 346 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: the Braves are looking for. I think they just really 347 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: have this unique chance for the first time in a 348 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: while to really just assess what is it we need. 349 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: What do some of these candidates have to offer, Whether 350 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: that's a first time manager, which would be interesting and 351 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: not necessarily what I expect, or if it's somebody who's 352 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: just kind of younger in their managerial career who could 353 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: stick around for a long time and maybe build himself 354 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: into the next long line of continuity that the Braves 355 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 4: have at the managerial spot. 356 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: We're talking to Grant McCauley, who's a great follow on 357 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Twitter at Grant McCauley, and you can hear him on 358 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: ninety two nine in the game down there in atl 359 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: and also his weekly from the Diamond Show, which I've 360 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: been on, which is great. My next one for you, Grant, 361 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: of any of the names that you heard clearly that 362 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: we're getting a list now or down at this point, 363 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: was there one that you were surprised didn't make it 364 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: as somewhat of a finalist. 365 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 366 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: Well, the big thing with Alex was I think that 367 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: his goal was he told us this at his end 368 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: of season media availability, which went for nearly ninety minutes, 369 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: and it was, if I have my way, you guys 370 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: will never know who we talk to, You'll never know 371 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: who our finalists were, and we'll just announce who our 372 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: new manager is and we'll move forward. And to his credit, 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: haven't heard a lot about, you know, anybody coming in 374 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 4: and being confirmed to have managed or excuse me, to 375 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: have interviewed for the managerial job. So the names that 376 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: I've heard are not altogether. You know, any price is 377 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: whether it's the David Rosses or the Mark Durosis. George Lombard, 378 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 4: who was a Braves farmhand for a long time, has 379 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: been a coach in the major leagues for quite a 380 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: while as well. Brian Flaherty's name has been thrown around. Obviously, 381 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: we saw, you know, San Francisco win a completely different 382 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: direction to hire a coach from the University of Tennessee, 383 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: and that was a name that I think David O'Brien 384 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: of the athletic throughout there as well as a managerial prospect. 385 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: But you know, Alex kind of I don't know, tongue 386 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: in cheek, maybe laughed at the speculation. But then again, 387 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: I think that there was still that open door possibility 388 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: of one more year Brian Snitker, so maybe they weren't 389 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: that far down the road of making a list. Make 390 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: of that what you will. I do think that the 391 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 4: Braves have obviously had some conversations to this point, and 392 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: I think they'd like to get this thing done so 393 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: you can have it in place, so that you can 394 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: go into your winter with this the kind of you know, 395 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: things that are set up, because it's not like the 396 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: Braves need to do a ton of roster moves, but 397 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: there are some important decisions to make. And I'm also 398 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: fascinated to see how they round out the coaching staff. 399 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: Who stays, who goes, maybe not just in twenty twenty six, 400 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 4: but moving forward under a new manager. Who are they 401 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 4: going to look to keep around? From that standpoint, so 402 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: if they want to make changes there, would it behoove 403 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: them to do that earlier in the winter so that 404 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: they're able to snap up some candidates or guys that 405 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: they like in that regard, All. 406 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: Right, managers of don Way. Finally, when they finalized that 407 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: let's get back to the team a little bit. Is 408 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: there a name or two under the radar, names prospects wise, 409 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: that you're going to be looking forward to make a 410 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: boom or an impact on this Braves team as they 411 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: move forward into next year. 412 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Braves farm system is not what it was 413 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: seven or eight years ago, Todd, but that doesn't mean 414 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: that it still can't produce players that can definitely impact 415 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: the Braves at the big league level. We saw it 416 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago when Michael Harris and Spencer 417 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: Strider both exploded onto the scene at the exact same time. 418 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: We just saw it this past year with Drake Baldwin, 419 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: who pushed his way into the catching situation for the 420 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: Braves and I think should win the National League Rookie 421 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 4: of the Year. We saw Herston Waldrip late in the 422 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: season who I would put on that short list of 423 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: guys I expect to really have that opportunity to show 424 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: out for the Braves next year and help them in 425 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: an area in which they were absolutely decimated in twenty 426 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: twenty five. It was injuries to the starting staff. I 427 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: have never seen an entire opening day rotation end up 428 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: on the sixty day il at the same time, and 429 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: the Braves somehow managed to check that box. This year 430 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: is one of the many things that went wrong. So 431 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: Waldrip's a guy I'm looking at really closely. There are 432 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: some other arms that I think they could look to 433 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: push through the system, but will they arrive next year? 434 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: The cam Kamenetties of the world, Jared Richie's been really impressive. 435 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: They've got some really good arms. Position player wise, it's 436 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: a little bit light, but if you're looking at positions 437 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 4: that the Braves need to fill, I think Short stops 438 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: that spot and we can talk about that a little bit. 439 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: Their hope is that Hasan Kim, who was able to 440 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: come in and kind of get an orientation for a month, 441 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: will decide that he likes Atlanta enough to maybe stick 442 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: around for at least twenty twenty six. 443 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: Grant good stuff, Thank you for stopping by for a 444 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: quick chit chat. And as soon as the World Series over, 445 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: obviously we'll dive back in. Braves fans right now sitting 446 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: on the sideline, probably rooting again. It's the Dodgers, right 447 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: Is that the sentiment down. 448 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: There probably fair to say, I don't know that there's 449 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 4: really any way to just root for the leagues anymore. 450 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's even a thing or ever 451 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: was a thing in Major League Baseball, but yeah, probably 452 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: never rooting for the Dodgers around these parts. 453 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: Yep, that makes sense. 454 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: Should we ask him? No, real quick, what what do 455 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: you think the series is going to be? 456 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 457 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: You got a prediction? 458 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: In prediction ten seconds. 459 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you seven games is what I want. I 460 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: think Toronto has the best chance of really giving the 461 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 4: Dodgers a test, So I'll go Toronto in seven games. 462 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: Oh okay, real quick, got the buzzer. Actually, just thought 463 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: of this. Braves fans do they like when Freddie thrives there? 464 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: Like? 465 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: Is it a bittersweet root for him last year when 466 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: he was ridiculous in the World Series? 467 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: It's probably bittersweet. But if you know Freddy Freeman, if 468 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: you've had a chance to get to know him the 469 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: way that Braves fans had, I understand that the separation 470 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: it was what it was. But he as a person 471 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: is easy to root for, and I'll always want to 472 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: see Freddy have success. That may sound kind of counter 473 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 4: to saying that you never root for the Dodgers around here, 474 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: but on a personal level, I'll always kind of look 475 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 4: at Freddy as a guy that I just want to 476 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: see the best things for him. 477 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm with you, and you're a good dude, so that 478 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: makes sense. Grant, You're the man. Thank you for joining us, 479 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: enjoying this series, and thanks for stopping by. 480 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: Dude, you got it. Thanks guys,