Speaker 1: Welcome to Washington, d C. Part two of our deep
Speaker 1: dive into the Biden crime family and the investigation. Senator
Speaker 1: as always great to be with you here in d
Speaker 1: C with our special guest, Congressman Jim Jordan, and I
Speaker 1: want to remind people we did part one that came
Speaker 1: out on Wednesday morning with some very big breaking news
Speaker 1: in that if you missed it, go back and listen
Speaker 1: to it. It's an important show.
Speaker 2: Well, Wednesday show and Today's show are designed to really
Speaker 2: be a resource if you're wondering, all right, what's going
Speaker 2: on with all of this scandal and listen. It's hard.
Speaker 2: You're busy, you're working. You know, you turn on the TV,
Speaker 2: you hear a SoundBite here or there, but you may
Speaker 2: not understand what all is going on. And the great
Speaker 2: thing about a podcast, I have to admit, you know,
Speaker 2: having done this now for several years, what I like
Speaker 2: about the format is we didn't have an actual conversation
Speaker 2: yet you're not rushed and get into real details. And
Speaker 2: so this is part two, and Part two we're going
Speaker 2: to start with.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 2: Look, one of the things you're chairman in the House
Speaker 2: of the House Judiciary Committee, but also the subcommittee on
Speaker 2: the weaponization of the federal government. And and and let's
Speaker 2: start with you know, as you know, the last book
Speaker 2: I wrote was Justice Corrupted. How how the Left has
Speaker 2: weaponized our legal system? And and you're you're sharing a
Speaker 2: subcommittee focused on that. Tell us what is the focus
Speaker 2: of the subcommittee and what does it mean weaponizing the
Speaker 2: federal government?
Speaker 3: The agencies have been turned on on on the American people,
Speaker 3: the people they're supposed to serve. So instead of serving
Speaker 3: the the taxpayer, the people who pay their salaries, you
Speaker 3: pay for our government, I think they've been it's been
Speaker 3: turned against turned against Americans for political reasons. And I
Speaker 3: would actually go back to remember about a year ago,
Speaker 3: I guess it's a less than a year ago, when
Speaker 3: when Joe Biden stood in front of the Independence Hall
Speaker 3: called half the country fascist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's bathed in red light. It looked like Emperor Palpatine.
Speaker 2: It was from Star Wars.
Speaker 3: It was kind of crazy, kind of creepy.
Speaker 2: And and but he said everything you said except for
Speaker 2: the word kind of yeah it was. It was bad.
Speaker 3: And so now you think about we feel like some
Speaker 3: of these agencies are focused. Just with that mindset, I'll
Speaker 3: give you a great example. This happened in the in
Speaker 3: the Field office of the Richmond Field Office of the
Speaker 3: of the FBI. They put together this memorandum they call
Speaker 3: it in the FBI, they called it a domain perspective,
Speaker 3: and we've actually seen it. The one that's you know,
Speaker 3: very few redactions. The first one that came out, we
Speaker 3: had a lot of redactions, but one of the very
Speaker 3: few redactions and this was the Radical Traditional Catholic Memorandum.
Speaker 2: And you read through this.
Speaker 3: They were talking about developing sources inside the parish, informants
Speaker 3: inside the church. I mean the idea that someone and
Speaker 3: this was signed off on by five people at the
Speaker 3: at the Richmond Field Office, including the Chief Division Council.
Speaker 3: So some lawyer who went to law school and probably
Speaker 3: should have had a course on the Constitution that they
Speaker 3: did it. Some talk them about the First Amendment Bill Rice,
Speaker 3: and yet they signed off on this.
Speaker 2: And when you're talking about sending spies into Catholic churches
Speaker 2: and trying to recruit priests to be informants for the FBI,
Speaker 2: now yeah, right right, Actually you think about it and
Speaker 2: your confessional like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: This is crazy?
Speaker 2: So now they on this point and I want to
Speaker 2: keep on the deep dive. But I do have to
Speaker 2: tell you one of my favorite stories. So Justice Antonin Scalia,
Speaker 2: one of the greatest justices ever to serve on the Court.
Speaker 2: When Justice Scalia is nominated to the d C Circuit, UH,
Speaker 2: the FBI. Anytime you get nominated to be a judge,
Speaker 2: the FBI does a background check and Scalia gets a
Speaker 2: call from his childhood priest, and the priest says, Nino,
Speaker 2: FBI called asking questions about you. Don't you worry. I
Speaker 2: didn't tell him nothing.
Speaker 1: That's a true story. Really, that's a great The answer
Speaker 1: that's that's you don't switch after that, you stick with him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a great story.
Speaker 3: So this memorandum, this domain perspective, talks about the you know,
Speaker 3: sources inside in the parish, inside the church. But what
Speaker 3: trouble me is when you read through it, what they
Speaker 3: really were defining as a radical traditional Catholic. They had
Speaker 3: a footnote about the Dobbs decision. They said that the
Speaker 3: extremists and radical traditional Catholics may find common ground. I
Speaker 3: forget how the sentence exactly went, but it was something
Speaker 3: to defect on on abortion, on on marriage.
Speaker 1: It was basically if.
Speaker 2: You're in the Latin Mass. If if you if you
Speaker 2: attended the Latin Mass, if you're a pro life, pro
Speaker 2: family Catholic, you're radical. It was funny because when this
Speaker 2: sort of came out a couple of months ago, I
Speaker 2: happened to be doing Seann Duffy show because he's on
Speaker 2: Fox Business, and Sean was asked about it, and I said, Sean,
Speaker 2: when you read through this and kind of read between
Speaker 2: the lines, it's like, I thought of you and Rachel's
Speaker 2: family because they got they got like thirty kids, you know,
Speaker 2: in their pro life old family. They're they're wonderful, great people.
Speaker 2: Sean was a great member. And it's like that they're
Speaker 2: defining them as radical.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's how the radical values in the eyes
Speaker 1: of the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Catholic Church if you and actually I
Speaker 2: would say more broadly that they define it as anyone
Speaker 2: who's serious about their faith, that that makes you inherently suspect,
Speaker 2: and that is so contrary to the First Amendment. It's like,
Speaker 2: and you know, the FBI I pulled this back, but
Speaker 2: would they have pulled it back but for a whistleblower
Speaker 2: who came and told us, like I don't know. I'd
Speaker 2: like to think they would.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the same way that going after parents and
Speaker 1: categorizing parents as you're you are a domestic terrorists if
Speaker 1: you show up school board and you get angry at
Speaker 1: what they're doing with your kids.
Speaker 2: Well, and Jim broke the story about how the FBI
Speaker 2: is currently using a threat tag. So look, we've discussed
Speaker 2: great life. How Merrick Garland one of the first things
Speaker 2: he did was directed the FBI to go after and
Speaker 2: target parents who dare speak up at school boards and
Speaker 2: to treat them. This was in response to the Nasal
Speaker 2: Association of school Boards YEP that asked that parents be
Speaker 2: treated as domestic terrorist under the Patriot Act. And within
Speaker 2: five or six days Merrick Garland snaps to attention issues
Speaker 2: the memorandum. It becomes public. Nas Association of school Board
Speaker 2: apologizes for it after the hearing. Yeah, but Merrick Garland
Speaker 2: doesn't back down at all. And then what you broke
Speaker 2: is they're still doing it.
Speaker 1: Dad.
Speaker 3: Memorandum is still in place. The memorandum from Richmond has
Speaker 3: been rescinded. Thankful, Yes, go back to the school board thing.
Speaker 3: It'd been you and the Center bring this up. September
Speaker 3: twenty ninth, twenty twenty one, the school Board Association, left
Speaker 3: wing political group puts out the memorandum use the Patriot
Speaker 3: Act against moms and dads. Five days later, is October fourth,
Speaker 3: the Attorney General the United States issues of memorandum doing.
Speaker 1: Exactly what the school Boards Association ask.
Speaker 3: And then two weeks later on October twentieth, October twentieth,
Speaker 3: sixteen days later, on October.
Speaker 2: Twenty let me ask you something. You're the chairman of
Speaker 2: the House Judiciary Committee. Does the Biden DOJ respond to
Speaker 2: you in five days? That's a good that's a great point.
Speaker 2: Now they don't respond to the Senate Judiciary Committee, No,
Speaker 2: they don't, But think about it. In October twentieth is
Speaker 2: when the threat tag and an email gets sent out
Speaker 2: to FBI agents all across the country, all the field offices.
Speaker 2: So I always tell people so, from September twenty ninth
Speaker 2: to October twentieth, twenty two days to your point, when
Speaker 2: have you ever seen the federal government move that fast?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Never, But when it came to well, they did find
Speaker 2: the laker of the Dobbs decision, right, yes.
Speaker 1: And record time right, record time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, right, that's another issue though, But you
Speaker 3: talk about weaponization, that is that is like turning when
Speaker 3: you think that the Justice Department didn't prosecute any of
Speaker 3: these people who were protested at Justices Holmes. The attack
Speaker 3: on the court, yep, all designed I think to intimate
Speaker 3: the court. You have that particular decision and set the
Speaker 3: stage for what they really want to do, which is.
Speaker 2: Packed the court. Well, weaponization, you've talked about this and
Speaker 2: wrote about this. Weaponization is twofold. It is both using
Speaker 2: the machinery of government as a weapon to attack your enemies,
Speaker 2: but it's also declining to give the protection of law
Speaker 2: to people you disagree with and so and look, this
Speaker 2: is something that George Soros prosecutors understand. We have das
Speaker 2: who come in and they realize you can abolish the
Speaker 2: police by shutting the police down, or you could abolish
Speaker 2: the police by putting a DA in who won't prosecute
Speaker 2: violent criminals. Either one wills the same prosecute the folks
Speaker 2: that the good police officers go out and all those
Speaker 2: good cops on the street to go out and arrest
Speaker 2: won't prosecute them. No, you're exactly right, And Merrick Garland's
Speaker 2: doing the same thing. It is a federal crime, unequivocal
Speaker 2: on the statute books that you cannot protest at a
Speaker 2: justice's home. They've done so, night after night after night,
Speaker 2: and DJ is not prosecuted a single person. They directed
Speaker 2: the marshals not to arrest them. Yep, directly contrary to law.
Speaker 2: And Merrick Garland when asked, I've asked him at great lengths,
Speaker 2: he just he thought he won't. He doesn't like that
Speaker 2: law eighteen Usc. Section fifteen oh seven.
Speaker 3: You know you can, you can raise concerns about Okay,
Speaker 3: what is that is that law got some First Amendment problems.
Speaker 2: It's the law and it was and they were doing
Speaker 2: the way people firebombingcy crisis pregnancy centers. They don't prosecute
Speaker 2: that either. They've got the resources people undercover of the
Speaker 2: Catholic churches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to find people at night when they
Speaker 1: commit crimes. That's why they can't get them.
Speaker 2: But it was hundreds of churches. It's convenient most criminals
Speaker 2: smit their crimes during the day because really, this DJ
Speaker 2: can't be bothered to turn the lights on.
Speaker 3: Hundreds of churches and crisis pregnancy centers have been attacked
Speaker 3: and in the aftermath of the leak, and as you
Speaker 3: pointed out earlier Centator, we still we still don't know
Speaker 3: you know, who the who the leaker was, but what
Speaker 3: we I think we can logically figure out what the
Speaker 3: motive was, what it was to intimidate the court and
Speaker 3: get them to change that decision.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Americans that are gonna, I know,
Speaker 1: think is there going to be any accountability for abuse
Speaker 1: of power? And I want to go back to the
Speaker 1: investigation with Hunter Biden and the Biden family. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about how many bidens are involved. And I understand that
Speaker 1: people say, well, you've got to make a living. I've
Speaker 1: heard people say that you got to make a living,
Speaker 1: but the reality is to make as much money they're
Speaker 1: having coming in. And let's talk about where the money's
Speaker 1: coming from. You know a lot about that money, and
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Speaker 1: talk about these suspicious activity reports, because for people that
Speaker 1: don't know what that is, banks can flag things, they
Speaker 1: can flag things I think are suspicious, yeap, And there's
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of them connected to the
Speaker 1: last name Biden. Why are there so many? First off,
Speaker 1: and is it because so much of the money is
Speaker 1: coming in from places that are shady or is it
Speaker 1: because they know who the money is coming from and
Speaker 1: they've already said this is a bad actor.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's probably all the above. What we're
Speaker 3: trying to put all those pieces together. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's Ukraine, it's China, it's Russia. You're not not exactly
Speaker 3: the countries that you jump to the to the top
Speaker 3: of the list that are, you know, reputable kind of
Speaker 3: places where you're going to be doing business. So I
Speaker 3: think you know, what was it the mayor of Moscow's
Speaker 3: wife gave Hunter, I forget that one was a ton of.
Speaker 1: Several million, million million blos.
Speaker 3: Just go on and on and so there's there's a
Speaker 3: number of these places where it's coming from. I think complexity.
Speaker 3: You know twenty some LLC's that are set up that
Speaker 3: with the Biden family and their partners, uh this this
Speaker 3: Robinson Walker guy and these others. When you got that
Speaker 3: many LLC's companies you're setting up, I think complexity was
Speaker 3: the was the objective, and it was designed to it
Speaker 3: seems to me.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you enforcement question. When you have crooks,
Speaker 2: when you have drug cartails, when you have the mafia,
Speaker 2: why did they create all sorts of shell corporations to
Speaker 2: move them. Yep, no, I know because it's it's probably
Speaker 2: because it's money laundry. But so we don't know if
Speaker 2: that's the same thing going on here. But it all
Speaker 2: starts to look suspicious again.
Speaker 3: I think we we talked about this in our last one.
Speaker 3: But you know, there aren't just one or two suspicious
Speaker 3: activity reports. There's one hundred and seventy some. And it's
Speaker 3: not just one or two LLCs. It's not like one
Speaker 3: company one into they set up and receives money. They're
Speaker 3: doing real work, real business, real real real value, real
Speaker 3: real service.
Speaker 2: That's not the case. There's twenty some of these LLCs
Speaker 2: and they're getting money from all these countries that have
Speaker 2: got kind of shady concerns there, and it's literally millions
Speaker 2: of dollars. So and you know, it's an amazing thing. Look,
Speaker 2: there are people in politics who have family members who
Speaker 2: are lobbyists, who say, okay, you know you've got a
Speaker 2: Democrat who's got a family member who goes and works
Speaker 2: where a big labor union goes, works with a teachers union,
Speaker 2: that that stuff is shady but not generally legal. It
Speaker 2: really says something when when the son of the vice
Speaker 2: president decides his business model is not just to go
Speaker 2: get a bunch of Democrat clients to hire him to
Speaker 2: influence Dad, but but go to foreign nations Communist China, Russia,
Speaker 2: and Ukraine. I mean that's quite the collection. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's you know, you know, you kind of wonder where
Speaker 2: like Libya and Iran and North Korea. Yeah, right, I
Speaker 2: mean it there's one hundred and seventy. You may be
Speaker 2: in well, I have no evidence of that. I'm not
Speaker 2: suggesting that, but it really is. Well, well, remember when
Speaker 2: Ukraine was I think in the list of corrupt countries
Speaker 2: was like maybe number one is like right near the
Speaker 2: top just that in and of itself, and Russia is
Speaker 2: certainly corrupt kind of kind of place for business as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, those are those are right near the top
Speaker 2: of the list. And this is where hunter Biden's getting
Speaker 2: getting a lot of money.
Speaker 1: How much are you concerned about the fact that apparently
Speaker 1: the money that was coming in from the Russians is
Speaker 1: coming in from individuals has still not been named as
Speaker 1: those that are being sanctioned by our government. A new
Speaker 1: round of sanctions came out a few weeks ago. Not
Speaker 1: on that list are the people that gave Hunter Biden,
Speaker 1: the Biden family millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, I mean we'll have to We'll have to see,
Speaker 3: but you know, I meant the I'm at the point
Speaker 3: now there's not a whole lot that surprised me. One
Speaker 3: of the things I've learned and over over time is
Speaker 3: you've been involved none of these investigations.
Speaker 2: Whether we go clear back. I think it's ten years
Speaker 2: ago this week when we first learned about lowist Learner
Speaker 2: and the irs targeting you know, conservatives when you were
Speaker 2: running for office. So the one thing I always learned
Speaker 2: is when you get in these investigations that the one
Speaker 2: thing we always get wrong is it's always worse than
Speaker 2: we thought. And that may maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: That the business worse than you thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, it may not be with Biden's. I
Speaker 2: don't know yet because we haven't completed the investigation, but
Speaker 2: every other one that's always been the case. And remember
Speaker 2: when Lewis Learner, who was a senior official at the
Speaker 2: Department of Justice, she was targeting conservative she was targeting
Speaker 2: Tea party groups, she was targeting pro Israel groups, she
Speaker 2: was targeting pro life groups, she was targeting groups that
Speaker 2: included in their title anything about the Constitution or the
Speaker 2: Bill of Rights. That was suspect patriot if you believed
Speaker 2: in the Bill of Rights. Yeah, scary that that was
Speaker 2: a yeah. And you remember when the news broke. The
Speaker 2: news broke because the Department of Treasury Inspector General YEP
Speaker 2: reported on it, and Barack Obama went and did a
Speaker 2: press conference and he said, quote, I am angry, and
Speaker 2: the American people have a right to be angry. Now
Speaker 2: that that was actually good. The second half of it
Speaker 2: was right. The first half of it was a lie.
Speaker 2: And it was a lie because he wasn't angry. He
Speaker 2: was angry he got caught. But if he was angry,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have done what he did after that, which
Speaker 2: is stonewall and stonewall and stonewall and refute. And when
Speaker 2: Lois Lerner pleads the fifth and refuses to testify and
Speaker 2: is held in contempt of Congress, you know what, his
Speaker 2: Department of Justice didn't prosecute, right, And I believe he
Speaker 2: said later on that he didn't think anyone did anything wrong.
Speaker 2: And it's like there's a pending investigation. You can't have
Speaker 2: the you can't have the head of the executive brand
Speaker 2: saying you know nothing in the outcome and that there's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong here. So yeah, but he what she did
Speaker 2: was just targeting conservative groups applying for taxis M status
Speaker 2: and having this be on the lookout list of people
Speaker 2: applying for the reasons you stated so well. And that
Speaker 2: was the model for what's happened under Biden. And by
Speaker 2: the way, in between Obama and Biden, you know, the
Speaker 2: Trump administration and amazingly enough, the federal government was weaponized
Speaker 2: against him, the sitting president. You know, Ben asked a
Speaker 2: minute ago about accountability. What what accountability has there been
Speaker 2: for the DOJ and FBI officials involved in crossfire hurricane.
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's other than Clin Smith who
Speaker 3: falsified a document in front of the FISA court. No
Speaker 3: one's had anything, And it's probably the question I get
Speaker 3: more than any other. I'm sure you get the same
Speaker 3: way when you're out and about talking with folks around
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: And by the way, let's pause on Clin Smith, because
Speaker 2: we've lived this for a while, but not everyone listening
Speaker 2: to this. So Cline Smith was an assistant General counsel
Speaker 2: at the FBI who fraudulently created a counterfeit document and
Speaker 2: submitted it to a federal court. And in particular, what
Speaker 2: the counterfeit document was is they wanted to get a
Speaker 2: wire tap on Carter Page. It was one of the
Speaker 2: foreign policy advisors advising the Trump campaign. This is in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and the basis for this wire tap is
Speaker 2: carter Page was talking to some shady Russians. And so
Speaker 2: the FBI, doing actually its job, reached out and emailed
Speaker 2: the CIA and said, hey, is this guy a source?
Speaker 2: He's an asset for you? Because if you're talking to
Speaker 2: shady Russians, pretty suspicious if you're.
Speaker 1: Doing it on behalf of your country, the United it's America,
Speaker 1: thank you, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not suspicious, like it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Is he our guy? Is he one of us? Is
Speaker 1: he a friendly?
Speaker 2: And so clin Smith emails the CIA says, is he
Speaker 2: a source for you? See I emails back, Yes he is.
Speaker 2: He is a source. And Clinesmith takes that email and
Speaker 2: he fraudulently alters it and he changes is a source
Speaker 2: to is not a source?
Speaker 1: Degree? So how many days has he been in jail
Speaker 1: for this? Zero?
Speaker 2: Not a day, that's not a day.
Speaker 1: That's and that's the.
Speaker 2: That was submitted to a federal court. And I guarantee
Speaker 2: if any of us created a fraudulent document and submitted
Speaker 2: it to a federal court, you do real jail.
Speaker 1: Jail.
Speaker 3: And the thing always sticks out to me is one
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty degree change in the meaning is is not?
Speaker 3: It's just like you can't change it more.
Speaker 1: They did that. So I still go back to that campaign.
Speaker 1: I remember how they said Donald Trump was insane because
Speaker 1: he said they were spying on my campaign and they
Speaker 1: said it was Obama said that, no, it'spying on his camp.
Speaker 1: That's ludicrous.
Speaker 2: They sounds like something fifty one intelligence officials.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, just get the sign a letter. Now
Speaker 1: it's all good.
Speaker 2: You know, Look, Crossfire Hurricane. Part of the reason it
Speaker 2: happened is nobody believed Trump would be president, so they'd
Speaker 2: never been caught. If Hillary had won, this would have
Speaker 2: all faded.
Speaker 1: Remember Crossfire Hurricane, just so they understand it exactly.
Speaker 2: So. Crossfire Hurricane was the name given to the effort
Speaker 2: to target the person who was then the Republican nominee
Speaker 2: to be president, and it was the deep state engaged
Speaker 2: in war, and it was the same weaponization that had
Speaker 2: begun under Obama and actually Crossfire hurricane began under Obama
Speaker 2: and then it waged on under Trump. And actually July fifth,
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, there was a meeting in the Oval Office
Speaker 2: with Barack Obama, with Joe Biden, with Jim Comey, it
Speaker 2: was the head of the FBI, with James James Clapper,
Speaker 2: and they decided, we're going to keep this going and
Speaker 2: we're going to target the president. At that point, they
Speaker 2: knew Trump was coming in. He was fifteen days away
Speaker 2: from being sworn in, and they said, keep it going,
Speaker 2: and they made a decision. And by the way, that's
Speaker 2: where Joe Biden suggested in that meeting, going after Michael Flynn,
Speaker 2: the incoming National Security Advisor under the Logan Act, which
Speaker 2: the Logan Act three times in history, has been enforced
Speaker 2: so bad it makes it a crime essentially for a
Speaker 2: private citizen to engage in diplomacy with foreign countries.
Speaker 1: It's and daily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also when they decided to go up
Speaker 3: to Trump Tower president elect Trump January fifth of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: so he's president elect. They go up there and Comy
Speaker 3: briefs him on the dossier that they already knew was false,
Speaker 3: and Kmy briefs him on it. And I'm convinced the
Speaker 3: only reason because that had been paid for but the
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton campaign, right, And the only reason he briefs
Speaker 3: him on it is so that they can leak it, yep,
Speaker 3: so that they can tell so that they can say
Speaker 3: it was so important. Jim Comy went to New York
Speaker 3: to brief President elect Trump on the dossier that then
Speaker 3: leaks they printed. That's when it all got rolling. That
Speaker 3: led to ultimately led to the Special Council after Trump
Speaker 3: Fire's combing and to get the Special Council. It's also
Speaker 3: interesting you mentioned a cross for a hurricane. I obviouls
Speaker 3: think this is funny because remember the Hillary Clinton email.
Speaker 3: That investigation was called the mid Year Exam, you know,
Speaker 3: very boring and playing. But going into President Trump was
Speaker 3: like crossfire. You can see him pound in their chest
Speaker 3: like we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get so like.
Speaker 2: Even the names they give these things kind of indicate
Speaker 2: the bias that exists there with folks in the government.
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot in investigations. What has shocked you
Speaker 1: the most by your investigation how the Biden family has exploded,
Speaker 1: the money that's come in the players, the suspicious activity reports.
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Speaker 1: What shocked you the most?
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that and I've touched
Speaker 3: on it a little bit before, But Elvis Chan has
Speaker 3: a sworn declaration with when Senator Schmidt, then former Attorney
Speaker 3: General Schmid and Missouri brought a case against the big
Speaker 3: tech companies in this collusion, in this suppression of information
Speaker 3: on Elvis Chan has a declaration in there where he
Speaker 3: says that.
Speaker 1: Repeatedly, excuse me, I.
Speaker 2: Said that wrong.
Speaker 3: Elvis Chan is the FBI agent talking to yol Off
Speaker 3: at Twitter, and Joel Ross says in his sworn declaration
Speaker 3: that repeatedly in the month of October twenty twenty, we
Speaker 3: had agencies telling us FBI another agencies telling us to
Speaker 3: expect a Hunter Biden laptop hacking lee There's gonna be
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a hack and leak operation that will
Speaker 3: happen in October of twenty twenty, and it will involve
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden. And we were repeatedly told that by various
Speaker 3: government agencies, and the FBI was in.
Speaker 2: Possession of Hunter's laptop.
Speaker 3: They already had the laptop. So they're being repeatedly told
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen, When it's gonna happen, Who it's going
Speaker 3: to involve, what's gonna happen, hack in leak, when it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen October twenty twenty, just weeks before the most
Speaker 3: important election we have, and who it's gonna involve.
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3: And you step back and you say, how in the
Speaker 3: freak did they know? And of course they knew because
Speaker 3: what Senator just said, they had the lab So that's
Speaker 3: when to me, like, oh my goodness, they had the laptop,
Speaker 3: they expected it to get public. Now we all know
Speaker 3: there's an October surprise. We get one every four years,
Speaker 3: right right, so that doesn't surprise us. But when you
Speaker 3: can name exactly what the October surprise is going to be,
Speaker 3: that's like I've said, when I first were these guys
Speaker 3: clairvoyant to how did they know? How did they they
Speaker 3: were profits? You know, they could figure it out, like, no,
Speaker 3: they had the doc, they had the laptop, So that's
Speaker 3: when they had to be like oh, we gotta be kidding.
Speaker 2: No interest in verifying its authenticity, at least that we
Speaker 2: know of. They had no interest in investigating the evidence
Speaker 2: of corruption within the laptop that they were perfectly happy
Speaker 2: to keep it utterly dormant. That was twenty nineteen. December
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, they got possession of the laptop. We're sitting
Speaker 2: here in twenty twenty three and there still hasn't been
Speaker 2: a prosecute.
Speaker 1: But great.
Speaker 2: Finally Hunters admitted it's his laptop in terms of trying
Speaker 2: to fight against this, but not in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not in Arkansas. He backpedaled, which is gonna, I think,
Speaker 1: get him in a lot of trouble. If you notice
Speaker 1: that when he was down there, it turns like we're
Speaker 1: not even saying this is real. It's like, well, hold on,
Speaker 1: you said it somewhere else it was real but for
Speaker 1: the but no, now it's not real because I don't
Speaker 1: want to see where my money is because I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to pay for this kid.
Speaker 2: So the shortness is, we don't know what the FBI
Speaker 2: did with the laptop. We don't know if they validated
Speaker 2: we don't, if they looked at it, they don't. We
Speaker 2: don't know if we did. They confirmed it, they don't.
Speaker 2: We we don't know. I know they haven't prosecuted anyone, right,
Speaker 2: but we do know they were telling big Tech to
Speaker 2: be on the lookout for those specific things, which suggest
Speaker 2: they probably did know, or they probably did some of us.
Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't, but they were that you.
Speaker 1: Guys, either of you. And I'm asking this because this
Speaker 1: is the fun part about doing the podcast. Is there
Speaker 1: any scenario in your mind. You've been watching it a
Speaker 1: long time, you worked over the Supreme Court, You've had
Speaker 1: a career law enforce you know where they If you
Speaker 1: get a laptop of the FBI that you think is
Speaker 1: a former vice president's sons that has damning information, is
Speaker 1: there any chance you just shelve it or wouldn't you
Speaker 1: just out of pure curiosity, be like, we need to
Speaker 1: go through this to know what's out there.
Speaker 2: If your real law enforcement, of course you would.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But even if you're just a TMZ type person, if
Speaker 2: you're a hardcore partisan who hates Donald Trump, this is
Speaker 2: the same entity that not long after decided to go
Speaker 2: undercover targeting the Republican nominee for president. That's an extraordinary situation.
Speaker 2: Look I'm an alumnus of the Department of Justice. I
Speaker 2: was an associate Deputy Attorney General under George W.
Speaker 1: Bush.
Speaker 2: Look, you might have a situation where the evidence was
Speaker 2: so compelling you had to investigate the nominee for the
Speaker 2: other party, But that threshold should be really damn high. Now,
Speaker 2: not so high that you get a laptop full of
Speaker 2: incriminating information that he is getting the big guys getting
Speaker 2: ten percent from communist China. All right, now you're starting
Speaker 2: to hit a threshold of we got to figure out
Speaker 2: if this is real. But the FBI and DOJ, what
Speaker 2: I think happened is hardcore partisans burrowed into senior career positions,
Speaker 2: and we're comfortable treating the machinery of law enforcement as
Speaker 2: a tool to protect their friends and attack their enemies.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Well, I also think it's
Speaker 2: it's one thing if they get that laptop in October
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Yeah, that'd be a different story because there's
Speaker 2: a you know, you you work there, so you know
Speaker 2: there's a window of time where you sort of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're getting in that really critical political time when America's
Speaker 2: deciding who's that Do we really want to impact the
Speaker 2: election with information we bring out.
Speaker 3: So that's one thing. But this was ten months before that.
Speaker 2: And by the way, December, right before the twenty twenty election,
Speaker 2: had or the had information about Joe Biden. Rather, the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two election had information about Joe Biden's classified documents,
Speaker 2: and they did nothing with it. They didn't leak it,
Speaker 2: they kept secret. But ninety one days before that election
Speaker 2: they did raid President Trump's home. So outside that ninety
Speaker 2: day window, I guess ninety one days, you're good to
Speaker 2: go home. But you find something. Within a month or so,
Speaker 2: I guess it was a couple of weeks. Eight days,
Speaker 2: we can week before the election, they don't do anything.
Speaker 2: So but but with the with the laptop.
Speaker 3: It's ten months. It's ten months before the election. I
Speaker 3: think you probably check it out, but who knows what
Speaker 3: they did. So one of the things that that I
Speaker 3: think is striking, and you mentioned it before, is the inner.
Speaker 2: Relation between the federal government and big tech in the media,
Speaker 2: because they're all intertwined in a way that frankly is
Speaker 2: is is not natural. The media ought to be.
Speaker 1: A watch shop.
Speaker 2: That they ought to be. You know the phrase that
Speaker 2: that back when we had journalists that they used to
Speaker 2: be proud of. Is it is, you know, shining a
Speaker 2: light and holding those in power accountable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But what is really stunning that we've seen through your investigation,
Speaker 2: that we've seen for the Twitter files is how willing
Speaker 2: big tech was to be the foot soldiers for the government,
Speaker 2: and how willing the media was weekly meetings to be
Speaker 2: the foot soldiers for the government. You look at the
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. Not only did big tech suppress the story,
Speaker 2: but they punished the media and deep platform the New
Speaker 2: York Post. So it was one after the other after the.
Speaker 1: Other, visibility filtered.
Speaker 3: Anyone who was trying to talk about the story, share
Speaker 3: the story, link to the story they did. The visibility
Speaker 3: filtering is the fancy word big tech uses.
Speaker 2: Now, Is that a normal thing for big tech to
Speaker 2: be acting at the behest of the federal government silencing
Speaker 2: people the federal government doesn't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, since uh what Jonathan Turley. Censorship by surrogate is
Speaker 3: what the professor Turley called it. So there's a template now.
Speaker 3: And it's scary because I actually think this is the
Speaker 3: biggest threat we face. We can recover from the crazy
Speaker 3: border policies, a crazy tax policies, spending policies, crime policies,
Speaker 3: energy policy.
Speaker 2: We can recover from all that.
Speaker 3: But if they if they destroyed the First Amendment, you
Speaker 3: no longer have this, this amazing thing we call America
Speaker 3: the greatest country ever. So that's that's what can and
Speaker 3: the template is always you will get it. The left
Speaker 3: will tell a lie, the big media will report the lie,
Speaker 3: big tech will amplify the lie, and then if you
Speaker 3: try to tell the truth, they call you a racist,
Speaker 3: they call you names, they try to cancel you, and
Speaker 3: it's like, what what that that's that's now? What what's
Speaker 3: happened to our country and to debate and to the
Speaker 3: First Amendment. So yeah, it's it's it's not supposed to
Speaker 3: work that way, and it's it's why I really think
Speaker 3: what we're trying to do relative to the First Amendment,
Speaker 3: protect it, highlight where it's been abused is so important,
Speaker 3: and look at getting the facts out there, doing the
Speaker 3: oversight to get the facts out there, then looking at
Speaker 3: legislative remedies. What's legislation that we could pass that would
Speaker 3: actually help with the situation. And then finally, do we
Speaker 3: have to look at the appropriations process and say some
Speaker 3: of these agencies shouldn't be getting the money they're getting,
Speaker 3: at least not in the same way they're getting it now.
Speaker 3: So talk to us about FBI whistleblowers. And you've had
Speaker 3: a lot of FBI whistle blowers come to your committee.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I'll say, if we've got FBI agents,
Speaker 3: FBI employees, DJ employees who want to blow the whistle,
Speaker 3: come to Jim, come to my office.
Speaker 2: You will have the protections of law afforded to whistleblowers.
Speaker 2: And it's an important part of constitutional accountability. But talk
Speaker 2: to us about what you've seen from whistleblowers and what
Speaker 2: we can expect in the week, weeks and months ahead.
Speaker 3: We planing hearing next week. We haven't got an official
Speaker 3: schedule yet, but that's what we're looking to do. We
Speaker 3: think we're going to have four of the whistle blowers
Speaker 3: come testify. We've had a dozen who've talked to us,
Speaker 3: We've interviewed half a dozen, and as I mentioned, I
Speaker 3: think in the last uh last episode was a part one.
Speaker 3: I guess you call many of them been retaliated against
Speaker 3: and it's really sad because.
Speaker 1: What does that look like? So they take the take
Speaker 1: that picture take their security clearance. Can you do your
Speaker 1: job without that? You can't?
Speaker 3: And then and then without your security clearance, you're you
Speaker 3: You pretty much can't. And some of them just been
Speaker 3: forced to leave. We had one who was trying to
Speaker 3: trying to get to UH to get his firearms training
Speaker 3: records because he needs that for another job, and they
Speaker 3: slow walked him on that. So it's just like it's
Speaker 3: just time and issue after issue that that we see
Speaker 3: with these these guys.
Speaker 1: In the FBI. You can't do your job without your
Speaker 1: security clearance to have that a lot of people outside
Speaker 1: of Washington may not realize that that's like taking your
Speaker 1: driver's license away from you. And you're a big rig driver,
Speaker 1: you can't make a living yep, yep.
Speaker 3: It's really really tough and so uh and it's vindictive too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's trying to crush you financially and.
Speaker 1: Ruin your life.
Speaker 2: It's it's in dare you talk to Congress about what
Speaker 2: we're doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And it's also illegal, yeah, no, it is. You can't
Speaker 2: retaliates very clear.
Speaker 3: So, and like I said, one of one of these
Speaker 3: whistleblowers is wanted to talk to us about the school
Speaker 3: board issue and what they're what they were trying to
Speaker 3: do to parents, given us the name of the the
Speaker 3: the the Education EDI officials, the threat tag label that
Speaker 3: was put on the twenty seven parents. But we put
Speaker 3: our report on this. None of these parents were charged
Speaker 3: with anything. Only one went to a full investigation, and
Speaker 3: no one's been charged with anything. Many of these places
Speaker 3: the US attorney and get this memory and they do
Speaker 3: a little thing and they're like.
Speaker 2: This is blowning, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Why are we doing this. It was all done for
Speaker 3: politics because they thought it was going to help Terry
Speaker 3: mccaalaughe the next governor of Virginia, and it turned out
Speaker 3: it backfired on them and helped Glenn Younkin when yeah,
Speaker 3: because you start telling and dads, we think, remember Glenn
Speaker 3: Youngk or excuse me, When Terry McCollough said, we don't
Speaker 3: think parents should be telling schools what to teach, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and a bunch of moms.
Speaker 2: Said, I don't I think we should. You know, by
Speaker 2: the way, I know my kid's name, you don't know
Speaker 2: the kids name. I think I should be involved in her.
Speaker 2: So that issue, So this is when the whistlers came
Speaker 2: to the Catholic memo that's one of them. Whistlebler came forward.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you there was another FBI memo which
Speaker 2: we've talked about and said Judiciary Committee where they identified
Speaker 2: signs of extremism and they had all sorts of things,
Speaker 2: including the gats and flag from the revolutionary wartime, but
Speaker 2: they also also had the come and take it flag
Speaker 2: from Texas, which which.
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Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: They do a really nice job.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I want to ask you one last question,
Speaker 1: and that deals with the issue I think of. There's
Speaker 1: fatigue with a lot of Americans. Now they hear you're
Speaker 1: doing investigations, they listen to part one and if you
Speaker 1: missed it, go back and listen to it. They listen
Speaker 1: to part two and they go, I'm mad as hell,
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated with my government. What does success look like?
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about from accountability standpoint, from your investigations,
Speaker 1: because they don't feel like there's accountability. They feel like
Speaker 1: that the deck is stacked against us now. They feel
Speaker 1: like we're always losing. And I say this because I
Speaker 1: have listeners. I talk to you every day. They are
Speaker 1: sick and hired of feeling like there's two systems of
Speaker 1: justice and that there is two, there's a double standard,
Speaker 1: and they feel like we never win and their definitis
Speaker 1: of winning. I want to be clear, it is something
Speaker 1: they almost step over themselves over and over again trying
Speaker 1: to explain this to me. They say, been, I want
Speaker 1: to understand. I'm not wanting to put people in jail
Speaker 1: because they're on the other side of the aisle. I
Speaker 1: just want there to be accountability for people when you
Speaker 1: do break laws. And when they see the Biden crime
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Speaker 1: happening the FBI and the DOJ. In this letter, they
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Speaker 3: Step one is stopping any bad behaviors, getting the facts
Speaker 3: on the table. We're committed to doing that as part
Speaker 3: of our constitutional duty when we when we do oversight,
Speaker 3: success in the end is if we can, if we
Speaker 3: can do it in a way that protects the first thing.
Speaker 3: We're going to pass some legislation out of the House,
Speaker 3: be tough to get through the Senate. Uh, with the
Speaker 3: with the Democrats in control, we're going to look in
Speaker 3: the appropriations process. Those are all things we got to do.
Speaker 3: But in the end, if we can, if we can
Speaker 3: get respect back in this country for the First Amendment
Speaker 3: and stop the censorship that's going on. I tell folks
Speaker 3: I was talking to earlier day to a group. You
Speaker 3: think about the last couple of years, every right we
Speaker 3: enjoy under the First Amendment has been assaulted. Right to
Speaker 3: practice your faith, right to assemble, petition, the government, press, speech,
Speaker 3: everyone's been assaulted. There were places during COVID where Democrat
Speaker 3: governors and Democrat mayors wouldn't let people Americans go to
Speaker 3: church on Sunday. I spoke to Now you could go
Speaker 3: to an Antifa riote or Black Lives Matter right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: vast windows in every major urban air round in this
Speaker 3: country with your right to assemble. I spoke to the
Speaker 3: New Mexico. I think I've told you the center the
Speaker 3: New Mexico Republican Party in Amarillo, Texas, because they had
Speaker 3: to go to Texas to get the freedom to So
Speaker 3: there's two years ago, the freedom to assemble because they're
Speaker 3: raised the Democrat governor would let him assemble in their
Speaker 3: own state, and you just go right to that. But
Speaker 3: the most important liberty we.
Speaker 1: Have, they should have named it an Antifa routy and.
Speaker 2: They could have had it the most important right we have.
Speaker 2: I've said that every church service should have just called
Speaker 2: themselves a protest against the devil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3: But your right to speak is the most important. You
Speaker 3: can't talk, you can't practice your faith. You can't share
Speaker 3: your faith. You don't have the freedom of press, freedom
Speaker 3: to petition, freedom to somebody. You just don't have it.
Speaker 3: And that's what they're coming after, and that's what we
Speaker 3: got to defend it if we can protect that will.
Speaker 2: And tell folks about your investigation into the corrupt prosecution
Speaker 2: of Alvin Bragg targeting Donald Trump, because when you talk
Speaker 2: about weaponization, we've talked at length in this podcast how
Speaker 2: utterly frivolous this case is, but you've engaged very closely
Speaker 2: on it. So tell us what you're doing on that.
Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg used federal tax dollars to indict a former
Speaker 2: president for no crime. And then when we wanted to
Speaker 2: talk to one of the das who worked for him,
Speaker 2: who had left over a year ago and wrote a
Speaker 2: book solely on this subject, he took us to court
Speaker 2: and the federal judge just the court just gave us
Speaker 2: a decision a couple of weeks ago. It says you're wrong,
Speaker 2: mister Bragg. The Judiciary Committee gets to have a deposition
Speaker 2: with mister palmerants he'll be coming in this Friday for
Speaker 2: and what does he say in his book? He says, Oh,
Speaker 2: he talks about.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting because you talk about the old line,
Speaker 3: show me the man, I'll find you the crime. They
Speaker 3: have like twenty different things. They were looking at President Trump.
Speaker 3: They looked at the forty Wall Street property, the Seven
Speaker 3: Springs Resort, the Jupiter Golf course, his tax returns, his
Speaker 3: apartment that they that he lived in on the top
Speaker 3: of Trump Tower, his his financial statements, his his all
Speaker 3: his stuff with Mazar's.
Speaker 2: They looked at his kids you just got on the list,
Speaker 2: and then the course. They looked at the stormy dangerous
Speaker 2: issuear like, I mean, I'm forgetting some It's crazy all
Speaker 2: the things they looked at to try to to try
Speaker 2: to get this guy. But we're gonna ask him about
Speaker 2: We're gonna ask about things he said book. You know
Speaker 2: some of the some of the things in there. You
Speaker 2: know in a lot of ways. It's amazing you do
Speaker 2: that kind of deep dive almost anyone. If you have
Speaker 2: a team of prosecutors coming through everything you've ever filed
Speaker 2: with the I r S. My guess is most people
Speaker 2: can do something something, and especially a billionaire real estate developer.
Speaker 2: If you brought a hundred billionaire real estate developers went
Speaker 2: through all their taxes. I'd be surprised if you could
Speaker 2: find one you couldn't indict for something. They looked at him.
Speaker 3: They were looking at when he bought the post office
Speaker 3: here and turned it into the hotel here in d C.
Speaker 3: I mean, just on it was it was ridiculous. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that that is happening. But again, I think it just
Speaker 3: shows you know, the DA in Manhattan. I think the
Speaker 3: DA and Georgie's gonna have another crazy case.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Alvin Bragg is a Soro DA.
Speaker 2: George Soros went over a million bucks to get him elected.
Speaker 2: This is this goes back to weaponization. You want to
Speaker 2: talk about the power of putting your guy in can
Speaker 2: of law enforcement, whether they're targeting Donald Trump or targeting
Speaker 2: you as a mom or dad, it's the same principle,
Speaker 2: which is we will use the government to crush our enemies.
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