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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio East of the Rockies. John is in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast John listening to an earlier caller

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Speaker 1: really coming up with this really incredible thing that we're

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Speaker 1: being taken over by the Communist I grew up with

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Speaker 1: that during the Cold War in the fifties and being

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Speaker 1: told by my teachers to hide under the desk because

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Speaker 1: we were told constantly the big bad Commies are going

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Speaker 1: to come over here in Bamas with nuclear bombs. And

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Speaker 1: they knew that would in any way save us if

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Speaker 1: that was the case. But they knew that if they

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Speaker 1: imprinted this hate and fear of Russia attitude in little

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Speaker 1: impressionable minds, could it could be tapped at any time

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Speaker 1: later to be used to Propagandizis into the Korean War,

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Speaker 1: the Vietnam War in the name of anti communism and

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Speaker 1: anti Sovietism. And I think this caller earlier represents did

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Speaker 1: the most extreme version of that. The John Birch Society,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, and that it was I think a

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Speaker 1: trick that the propagandist in the United States, the CIA

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Speaker 1: and the media and all of our institutions would offer

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Speaker 1: as an alternative, in other words, an even more extreme

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Speaker 1: and really, in my opinion, nutty, rabid anti communism, and

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Speaker 1: that those were the only two versions you could have,

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Speaker 1: and the so positively alternative outlier alternative version was an

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Speaker 1: even more extreme one where you called the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States a conscious member of the international communist conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: as the Birch Society did, and it was only at

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Speaker 1: the point where he began to or rather the Birch

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Speaker 1: Society began to red bait the red baiters and the

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Speaker 1: page they said, please, we can't allow you to do that,

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Speaker 1: and they slapped him down. I think people would really

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Speaker 1: get other sources of information because I think that that

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Speaker 1: resident do of that kind of brainwashing in a lot

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Speaker 1: of people's minds. I check out other things like Global

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Speaker 1: Research and Information clearing House and consortium dues. These these

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Speaker 1: have I think a good antidote to I think clearing

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Speaker 1: out those poisonous plague, cancer's plague in people's minds because

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Speaker 1: it's been used to justify the killing and bombing carbon

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Speaker 1: bombing of millions of people in the name of that

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Speaker 1: early brainwashing and continuing brainwashing, which I think now continues

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Speaker 1: under this a Kremlin baiting, Putin bashing. If you if

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Speaker 1: you question any of these foreign policy repetitions, of these

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Speaker 1: imperialist interventions around the world, all they have to do

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Speaker 1: is tap into that and say, you're a Putin puppet,

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Speaker 1: You're a moscowl Asian. They're doing this a brave person

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Speaker 1: like Kelsey Gabber, the major from the from the military

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Speaker 1: who's these things, and it was actually trying to tell

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Speaker 1: us that we in the name of fighting uh, non

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Speaker 1: communism at this point, but in fighting terrorism, we're supporting

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Speaker 1: the very terrorists we pretend are the Pentagon pretense in

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Speaker 1: the CI pretends to be fighting. Well, let's put a

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Speaker 1: pause in there for something, because I really liked your

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Speaker 1: use of the word residue, which I thought that's a

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Speaker 1: really interesting way of looking at that, because I think

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Speaker 1: we had that, and I think we have residue on

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Speaker 1: top of residue that certain things get floated, they get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of traction, and then they sort of

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Speaker 1: die in yellow and then another you know, veneer comes

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Speaker 1: over that, but the other one isn't fully erased, and

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Speaker 1: we just had these residues that pile up on each

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Speaker 1: other and I won't get into the Tulsa gabber thing

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Speaker 1: because I'm not that smart and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get caught in any political weeds here, but I will

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Speaker 1: say that it is complicated as hell, and maybe this

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Speaker 1: will help you and maybe you'll find this interesting, so

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Speaker 1: you know, chime, But I was. I was sitting with

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Speaker 1: a colonel a couple of weeks ago and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this. He was a he worked in the

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Speaker 1: counter Informational Office for the US Army and what they

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Speaker 1: have found was, and this is part of what he

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Speaker 1: was telling me, is that there is no central truth anymore.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's a very much of a Russian thing

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Speaker 1: to do, is to destroy the notion in this country

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Speaker 1: of any sort of central truth on which we can

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Speaker 1: all agree. And so he was saying, look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: making this up. I lived this for eight years. There's

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Speaker 1: a war on information, and the information is everything was

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Speaker 1: always to destabilize data so that you could never feel

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Speaker 1: good about what you knew. And he said, this isn't

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Speaker 1: this is intentional, and they do it. They're throwing huge

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Speaker 1: amounts of resources at it because it's so cheap, he said,

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Speaker 1: for years, and he told this anecdote about how there

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Speaker 1: was one guy, and they actually know the guy's name.

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Speaker 1: I don't. He was some math whiz in Russia and

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Speaker 1: it was his job every day to do the calculations

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Speaker 1: of when it would be time for a ground and

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Speaker 1: air and sea like invasion of the United States. And

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Speaker 1: they knew it would be really hard to do that,

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Speaker 1: but they had contingency plans for what they would invade first,

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Speaker 1: and this guy who was there just to do these

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Speaker 1: calculations every day. They would check with them, Hey, Yuri,

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Speaker 1: is today the day? Nope, and then they would just

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Speaker 1: go on about their business because it was you know,

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Speaker 1: it's such a difficult thing to try to win. But

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Speaker 1: so that never worked. That idea of any kind of

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Speaker 1: conventional warfare, as you say, the idea of lobbing bombs

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Speaker 1: or dropping parachutists, that was never going to work. They

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Speaker 1: thought about it, they tried to see if it could,

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Speaker 1: but they couldn't. What they could find was just how

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Speaker 1: easy it was was to get us to turn on

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Speaker 1: each other and to always be if we attack each other.

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Speaker 1: They were doing their work for them, And I think

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Speaker 1: that part is interesting, is that informative to what you

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Speaker 1: were just saying no, I think we ought to be

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Speaker 1: focusing on the kind of deception that our own media

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Speaker 1: and our own government is saturating us with for generations.

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Speaker 1: And I think this whole putin bashing Russia, bashing hoax

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Speaker 1: and I don't support Trump, I think is the right

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Speaker 1: wing reaction area. I consider myself am on the left,

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Speaker 1: but I see that this is the kind of CIA,

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Speaker 1: FBI secret police coup that our own government is perpetrating

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Speaker 1: against our own elected not mine, but the elected government

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Speaker 1: in this country, that they perpetrate around the world. And

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Speaker 1: a former CIA top officials who got disgusted with these

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Speaker 1: policies of cupmaking around the world, like John Stockwell who

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Speaker 1: wrote a lot of articles called the Secret Wars of

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Speaker 1: the CIA. John Stockwell, you'll find out some of the

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Speaker 1: hair raising, overthrows and submersions and installation of desplas dictory

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Speaker 1: shapes in the in the name of anti communism and

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Speaker 1: in the name of bringing I accept that these countries

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Speaker 1: that I think we've got to look at our own

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Speaker 1: dirty linen going on right all the time. Well, I

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Speaker 1: wish the media were that organized. So there is no

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Speaker 1: such thing. So if I can, and thank you John

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Speaker 1: for your comments and I just want to get another

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Speaker 1: caller room before we get to the end of the hour.

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Speaker 1: I'm always suspicious when people say the media, because there

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Speaker 1: is no such thing as the media. There are There

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Speaker 1: has never been a time when, even when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the news media, where there are more voices represented,

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Speaker 1: and it's never been so fractured. There is no coordination,

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Speaker 1: and that is it's too easy to imagine somehow there's

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Speaker 1: some sort of coalition of people who are getting together

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Speaker 1: to represent the media. It just doesn't happen. And because

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Speaker 1: we have a very much of a of a market

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Speaker 1: driven media, we aren't. You know, this is not a

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Speaker 1: nonprofit media. So every news organization frames their stories to

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Speaker 1: fit the mark that's paying for those organizations, and that

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Speaker 1: has as much to do with what news gets reported

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