1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: If it's over, it's over. I'm just gonna continue, just 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: to move on. I gave myself a time, and I 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: was like, if it's at this point of the season, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: it's over. I wanted fifty seven, but CJ got drafted 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: fifty seven again. But I was seventeen in high school. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Seventeen costs. I wanted to fifty seven. I came and 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: he couldn't get it. I came back. I was new 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: for a factor. I wanted fifty seven. It's like a 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: little undrafted halo above you here like, no, non drafted, 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: don't don't worry about it. It's just right now. They 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: looking at me, Oh you're old. You're like, they ain't 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: like ray Lewis, oh man, and they read him like yes, 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: oh lord. I'm like, man, you guys, you don't understand. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. Great win in Pittsburgh. You know, 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't like to take at it for things a lot. 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm a super modest guy, as you well know. But 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: I would have to say my big win that I 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: did last week probably keyed the victory. Yeah, because you 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: never do it. Yeah, so it was rare for you. Well, 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: it was an especially big big It was a big, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: big you know what I mean. It was a good one. Yeah, 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: maybe I think you. I don't know if it was 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: that much different than any other one, so I'm giving 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: you no credit. Anyway, that was a great win really. 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: That game, though, just probably took two years off my life. 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: He kind of came out of the game feeling a 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: little dirty. I was like exhausted, Yeah, yelling at the 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: TV at the refs. Just felt exhausted. Tucker said the 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: same thing when I did the interview with him after 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: the game. I was like, what are the emotions He's like, 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm kind of exhausted right now. Like 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: that was just a game that took a lot out 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: of you. You felt like it was in hand and 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's closed, and then all 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: sudden you're losing, and then it's over time you have 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a chance to win. It was just back and forth, 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I agree, it took some years off 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: our lives. Yeah. Anyway, one of the heroes of that game, 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: and uh, probably the biggest surprises Josh Binds are new, 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: well not really new, our linebacker who has returned from 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: a previous stay in Baltimore. He's back and Josh got 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: an interception in the game, So we're gonna talk to 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: him this week as he's become a pretty key figure 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: in this Ravens defense. But before we get to that, 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: we do have a good email. We talked a little 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: bit about pumpkin beers. Last is obviously one of our 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: favorite subjects and and it's you said last week, You're like, 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: it's time, and at that point I was like, it's 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: still a little watching this week perfect no hedge system 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: comes from Seawan. Tracy says, Hey, guys, huge fan of 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: the podcast, look forward to the recaps interview each week 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: and love that you're able to give to use your 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: excluseveset access to give us an inside look to the Ravens. 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Flock said, I'm super passionate about the Ravens and craft beer. 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: I'm a home brewer, next expertise. I've become better friends 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: with Seawan, he says, but I haven't made a pumpkin 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: beer because it would be tough to polish off a 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: five gallon keg in one to two month window that 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: is fall beer season. We can help, Yeah, we have friends. 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: I can help you out with that, uh, he said. 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: A couple of my favorite local Baltimore pump pumpkin bruise 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: that you guys and the fans should try are heavy 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Season greater pumpkin. In fact, I like it yeah good, 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: okay and full tilt Patterson pumpkin not had that. I 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: gotta give that Shy. Yeah. I like heavy Seas stuff, 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: you know. I like their Goldale Goldale with crabs, very nice, 67 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: good pairing in the summer. It's a summer beer though, 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: uh stay on the season here. He said. He also 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: loves your pick of the Southern Tire and Nitro Pumpkin 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: pump king. But we're only drinking Baltimore beers on Sunday's 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work Shaun and Beller. Nice well. 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate the email, Sewan. You'll be getting a T 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: shirt coming your way. That is for the record, makes responsibility, 74 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: So you gotta get the address and get it sent out. 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: So you gotta pull your end of the bargain at 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: some point on this podcast. So get that done to 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the bargain. You gotta hold it up. You gotta hold up. 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Period comes up with the questions, These are just natural questions. 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: I like to have a conversation with with this with 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that said, let's welcome in our guests, Josh Bines. A 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: lot in this building is new to you since you 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: were last year. What do you think of the new digs? Yeah, 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it a lot. The buildings 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: has always been great, but the inside is did whole revamp. 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: And um, I mean I thought it was great then, 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: but it's even better now. Well, the lounge, obviously, you know, 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: our little here, the nicest office in the whole place. 88 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: You gotta stop by the mini fridge that you got 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: a mini fridge. I don't know if you know about that. Sweet. 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I think it's looked nice. You know. That's just I've 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: never been on this side of the building. You know, 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: you don't get a chance because we're always doing our thing. 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: But that was the person I said, I said, this 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: side is really really nice. I said, I guess I haven't. 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, I gotta explore the building a little bit more. 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot to catch up on since you 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: were last year, like I said, but but I do 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: want to start with the here and now and and 99 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers game. First of all, I mean, just incredible. 100 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: You were here for what four days? Yeah, four days 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: before you suit up in Hindesfield as a starting mic linebacker. 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible. How how did it all go down? 103 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: When did you find out that you were going to 104 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: be starting and what went through your mind? First? Um, obviously, 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: you know I came here, I did the workout, and uh, 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: I came Monday. When on Monday, I'm sorry, Wednesday morning, 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I signed you know, the contractor you know, so I 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: can start president everything like that. I got a playbook 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: that morning and everything, so I kind of you know, 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: I was on a on a whim with a little 111 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: bit of the stuff, but you know, we had meetings 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: and things like that, so I was just trying to, uh, 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, just zone in on the things I do 114 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: remember and relate something similar to what I was doing 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: when I was here, and um and luckily enough something 116 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: you know a lot of good amount of it carried 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: over into the game. And um, yeah, I was just 118 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, taking a day by day and uh and 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: it just you know, I picked up on stuff relatively 120 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: um fast, and um and I was just you know 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: excited to go out there on Sunday and play. Was 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: there a point where I don't know if it's Wink 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: or her ball they come to you and they say 124 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: you're getting to start. Uh, it's kind of just the way, 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: you know, we just practices just went. Um. I never 126 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: thought of myself any less than uh, you know, being 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: capable of being the starters league. And I hope and 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: that continued. I mean, that's just my mindset. It's always continued. 129 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: And um that brought me into this ninth year my 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: NFL career, crazy enough to say that, And and it 131 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: was just you know, just a weird the preparation, the 132 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: process and things like that, you know what I mean, LJ. 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, splitting reps and doing this and doing that. 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: At the same time, it was like, well, I shouldn't 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: been to camp, so we can't get them all the 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: whe else. We're just you know, understandable and stuff. But 137 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, even when I'm not in, 138 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm always taking those mental reps and and pay attention 139 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: to what's going on with the other guys are doing. 140 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: So you know, when those things pop up in the game, 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: it's not like I never saw it because I didn't 142 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: specifically practice it. It seemed like after the game talking 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: with you, that you were like on cloud nine. I mean, 144 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: you seems still to be floating, you get you get 145 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: the I mean, the second drive, you get the interception, Like, 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: how surreal was that whole day for you? Yeah? It was. 147 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: It was just it was crazy because I was just 148 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I told a couple guy was like, man, just last Sunday, 149 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: I was golfing at this time in the morning, you know, 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: before I caught the games and you know, just hanging out, 151 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, with some friends and and uh, you know 152 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: watch the games. Obviously after I go golf, and uh, 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: it was it was just crazy than the next Sunday. 154 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm actually back playing on Sundays. But just the stuff 155 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: I put in through the week, you know, training and 156 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: and just knowing that it's finally you know, obviously led 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: the Sunday paying off where it was times where I 158 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I asked if, oh, are you okay, 159 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm good. I can keep going. 160 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm fine. You know. That's kind of surprising enough because 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I missed training camp and stuff 162 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: like that, so, you know, and the football conditioning part 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: of it is different than you know, the actual you know, conditioning, 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: it's a lot of different. You do all the training 165 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: running in the world, but when you get pads on 166 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and then change the direction, it's a whole different ball game. So, um, 167 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: it was definitely, you know, it was just incredible on Sunday. 168 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: Did you think that at any point did you think, 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: all right, maybe football is done, Maybe I'm not gonna 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: get get a call me. I'm doing a lot more golfing. 171 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I'd be aligned. And if I didn't tell you that 172 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: ain't creep in my mind. It it always does. I mean, 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: and you never know when your last year is going 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to be. But I'm like, um, me and my wife 175 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: we talked about things all the time. I always tell that, 176 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always just mentally, if it's over, it's over. 177 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue, just to move on. I 178 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: gave myself a time and I was like, if it's 179 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: at this point of the season, it's over, and I'm 180 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and you know, you know, just 181 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: because it happens, you know what I mean, I'm not 182 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: gonna be sitting here just waiting for that call and 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: then it doesn't happen, like, oh okay, they'll come next year. 184 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm at the point of thirty already know how 185 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: the game worlds. They're like, no, what We'll take the 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: younger body any day. So I was just making sure 187 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: that whenever that time was called, was just gonna be 188 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: ready regardless, and until you know, until this time comes, 189 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: how close for you know, I wasn't that close yet. 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: The season. It's way to the point it's this way 191 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: too early this season. It was I still had things 192 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: going on that I was getting ready, just the process 193 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: business wise and stuff I want to do UM when 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm done playing UM football. But uh, it was just 195 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: whenever that time comes, you just know you just had 196 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: a feeling. And I didn't have that feeling yet, and 197 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: and um, at least I was getting some calls steal 198 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: from teams even prior to coming back to Baltimore, so 199 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: at least a new interest is still there. It's just, 200 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously interests could be anything, but it doesn't. 201 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean until you sign a dot of line. 202 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm grateful to be back in the 203 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: Ravens called are you like holy hell? Going like this 204 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: is too good to pass up? After you know, once 205 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: free agency happened and everything else played out, I knew 206 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to be back here. You know. Obviously, you know, 207 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: things work out the way it works out, and the 208 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: NFL's is business and you can't control that part. That's 209 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: the part that sucks about it sometimes because it's such 210 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: a great sport, but it's business involved, and then you 211 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: can't do nothing about it. And um, you know, you know, 212 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: I would love them being here a lot sooner than now. 213 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: But end of the day, he gave my body enough 214 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: time the rest and heal up from a lot of 215 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: things it's been been through the last eight years, so 216 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: I can't complain at all. And you know, in regardless 217 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: of how it ended up here now, I'm just glad 218 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: to be here and I'm just taking advantage of opportunity. 219 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: What's going through your mind when you see that ball 220 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: flirting up in the air for the interception? Just catch, 221 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: just catching? Oh I can't believe it's right here. That 222 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: some of my guys joking it was like, oh, why 223 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: don't just stop on the sideline? Did to spin moving 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: and trying to score? I say, man at that time, 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: to think about that, I want to make you. I 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: called them all and then I knew I was close 227 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: out of bound, so I make sure I just got 228 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: in bounds. And that was it. Just say bounds and 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm good when you're going through the whole uh summer 230 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: and you're kind of waiting for the real call, Like 231 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: you have calls some teams and say like, hey, you know, 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: something happens, we'll be interested. But like you said, it's 233 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: not it's not a deal until it's a deal. Is 234 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: it hard to stay motivated to go and work out 235 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: every day because you're hoping for that call? But on 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: the flip side, like you truly don't know, Yeah, it's 237 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I want to say, it's just some days get challenging 238 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: when you're working out because now you're working out, you're 239 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: doing these positions, duels, you're doing this, you're doing conditioning, 240 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: you're running, you're running. But then sometimes get redundant, especially 241 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: at the time where you a lot of guys you 242 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: trained with there are there are on teams, and then 243 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: they're gone doing their thing. You're home and you're like, dang, 244 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: I know I deserve to be on a team somewhere, 245 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: just so you know, just the process gets a little redundant. 246 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: So luckily my trainer she's she's a little bit patient 247 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: with me. She's like, I know you want to be 248 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: somewhere right now, but let's work, We're gonna be here, 249 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna where. And I was like, I know, I 250 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: just gotta vent for a second. I gotta be mad, frustrated, 251 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe because a little bit here and there, 252 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: and be all right, all right, I'm good. Now I 253 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: can't go ahead and get my work in. So I'll 254 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: be lying if I didn't say it was some days 255 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: or challenging the others. But you know, but once I'm 256 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting going a minute, I'm innute. I put my 257 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: headphones on and I jammed my music and I'm I'm 258 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm rolling, lifting, working out and making sure I'm ready 259 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: when that time's come. Obviously it paid off three It 260 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: said you were, you know, in great shape when they 261 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: got here, when you got here. So let's go backwards 262 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. This is obviously your your second time here. 263 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Uh is it strange to look around the locker room 264 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: there's only a handful of guy's left. I mean, I 265 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: see you over there chopping it up with Jimmy Smith today, 266 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's one the few guys that you 267 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: probably truly know on this team. Yeah, I mean me 268 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and ronically enough me, Jimmy and McPhee, all us came 269 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven. So um, you know, we all 270 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: like you know, remember how it was and we was 271 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: here and what has been like you know other places 272 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: of at least me and mcpheel o the places and 273 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But it's just it's just a whirlwind, 274 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: like w was those jump ups in the locker room 275 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: trying to you know, figure this whole thing out and 276 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: that that that now where the veterans are like dang, 277 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: like you know where you know your body you have 278 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: these injuries, that injuries like well do you take care 279 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: of yourself? It's just we're on the flip side of 280 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: things and it's crazy how that time like truly like flies. 281 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, what is it like when you leave Baltimore? 282 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: Is it? Uh? You know still bring do you do? 283 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: You look back at Baltimore say, man, it was really 284 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: nice there. You know, every team you know has their 285 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: pros and cars. I couldn't say I didn't. I loved 286 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: all the teams I was at. Detroit was amazing to 287 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: me as well. I finally got a true like real 288 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean that opportunity to start here, but also got 289 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: a ton of start started. Yeah, started started there, played 290 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: a lot in fourteen started in fifteen and then I 291 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: was hurt the first part of six team started the 292 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: rest of the sixteen as well, So I definitely got 293 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity to you know, put myself out there even 294 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: more in Detroit, and I'm grateful for Detroit. Uh. Jim 295 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Cobwell was a hell of a coach. I love playing 296 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: for Jim Callwell. Can never you know, you know, he's 297 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: just he's definitely you know what I mean, the Harves, 298 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, really great coach. And then you go Jim 299 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: CarbWell is great coach, and I Bruce Serrens a really 300 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: good coach. And you know, unfortunately last year we had 301 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the year we had with Wilkes and stuff like that, 302 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: so that was different kind of year. Yeah, you know 303 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: it which wasn't the season we wish we would have had. 304 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, every every team 305 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: has the ups and down, but you know, when you 306 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: have there's good memories that places like Detroit and there's 307 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: UH and I'm here and Baltimore is just you know, 308 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: it's always more than welcome to. You know, you just 309 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: want to be back. You you mentioned the locker room 310 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: and feeling like you're one of the old heads in there. Now, 311 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: how different does the locker room, this locker room feel 312 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: compared to I know the players are different, but I 313 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: just feel like there's a different run. And I talked 314 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: about this often, like it's a social media era. Guys 315 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: are phones. It's a young locker room. Like it's it's young, 316 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: and you look around and it just feels different. Like 317 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: I remember when I came here in two USand eleven 318 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: and you look around and you have Ray and Ed 319 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: and Helodi and ant Quon like sugs and major star 320 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: power guys who you knew were going to the Hall 321 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: of Fame, and it just feels like a different locker room. 322 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: It's so young. It's a social media generation. Like do 323 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: you sense that when you sit in there? Yeah, definitely, 324 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: young boys. Gulf feels on your phone. It's like, I'm like, man, like, 325 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, I get my phone, text my wife and stuff. 326 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, they're on Instagram, the doing this, doing that. 327 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, it's just they're just different, you know. 328 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: But you know, it just brings you know, I'm not 329 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna say it, it just makes you sound old. Were 330 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: talking about it, like, you know, you don't find you 331 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, I do my social media thing, getting on 332 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: there once in a while, but I'm not like everyday 333 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: posting or anything like. That's not me. I'm not that 334 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of guy. I'm just more into the real thing 335 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: that's going on for the most part. But it's definitely 336 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: different different places of the millennials that you don't even 337 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: know the millennials with this younger generation, I don't even know. 338 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah they see, they ain't in millennials. They know something else. 339 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: So but it's it's definitely good, you know, uh, you know, 340 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: change from what it was like. But they also appreciate 341 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: the guys like you know me who know what it's 342 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: like playing this league that long and the knowledge and 343 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: and you're just talking to them about certain things because 344 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: then of the day all that faces. I'm sorry that 345 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: social media stuff face out, and it's about you know, 346 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: what we can do out here on this field, and 347 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: that's what that's what it's about. An end of the 348 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: day back there in Super Bowl area, he sees carrier pigeons. 349 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: We're just taking pictures, you know, nine video. It wouldn't 350 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: think about none of that back in Super Bowl. Wish 351 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I would have thought about all those things. I got 352 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: like a thousand pictures on my phone and not many videos. 353 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: So that had been great during that time to have 354 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Instagram live and all that stuff. I 355 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: still have like a fuzzy picture of me holding the 356 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: little Bertie tripilas they keep it though, don't the other day. 357 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: It's worth this shoe not be a little burred. But 358 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: it's me. But we got to talk about the Super Bowl, 359 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and that whole that whole run. Just how 360 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: often do you find yourself looking back on that? Have 361 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: you polished off the ring at any point? Uh? You know, 362 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: and being the guy who made the last tackle, that's 363 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: a pretty special honor to have. How do you look 364 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: back on that? I look on it like it's just 365 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of hard. I guess there's a time going a 366 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: career to se here and like reminisce that often I don't. 367 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't really remembin this. I guess if people like 368 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: ask or like I'm in the off season, friends, neighbors, 369 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: they ask and stuff like I talked about it like that, 370 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: But when I'm in the game, like I don't, I 371 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: just just take it for whatever I'm doing now and 372 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: just take it for the wherever's going in the moment 373 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: and just keep running with it, like, uh, I guess 374 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: I think it. Report asked me earlier today or yesterday 375 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: where it was like, um, you know, in the game, 376 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: was it like a you know, was it like surreal 377 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: and things I'm thinking myself like, No, I wasn't even 378 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: thinking about it. I was just trying to be just 379 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: calm and just think about the little things and my keys, 380 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: my reads and the basics stuff that you know, I 381 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: know about football. And then after that, just now I'm 382 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: playing the game, like what the officers trying to do? 383 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: How do you're trying to attack us? What are there 384 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: things of the day, They're things they're trying to do, Uh, 385 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: to do us scheme wise and stuff like that. So 386 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: I was just hind of hold on those little things 387 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: and it ain't really full circle to me until probably 388 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: after the game, when I was like, oh, dang, like 389 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's my first game, you know what I mean. 390 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: But still just you know, when I talk to my family, 391 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: that's when it was really that, you know what I mean, 392 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: But other and that I'm I'm more in the moment. 393 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: My wife calls me serious because I'm really focused. I'm 394 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm just like that I'm really zoned into it. So 395 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm always looking forward to, you know, doing better and 396 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: doing the next thing. Can you run us through the 397 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: not a kickoff, but a free kick? Can you run 398 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: us through that play in your head? Like, can you 399 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: still imagine you see yourself running down on what you 400 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: saw on that play in the last time? Yeah, So 401 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm running down the field and uh, you know, and 402 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: at the same time, you're not trying to write you're 403 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: running down, but you're not trying to run full speed 404 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: because at the same time, you're trying to be patient 405 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: enough to make sure you can come back and make 406 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: a tackle. And if I'm not mistaken, uh it, Hitable 407 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: came and he colloided with somebody and he missed the tackle, 408 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: and luckily I had a blocker on me, and I 409 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: just swimmed over him and I got over and then 410 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just make sure I grabbed 411 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: him a hold on them, and I just slung them 412 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: down through them now to the ground. I was just 413 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: I was excited since I grabbed out of knew it 414 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: was like efferent M's gonna be over it, and I 415 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: just couldn't wait. And I definitely remember the screen afterwards 416 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: because it was just like it was done, like, you know, 417 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: we want the super Bowl. You know, I definitely wanted to, 418 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, the it's like there, I want to in 419 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: a college championship as well, And I thought that was 420 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: the greatest moment. But I honestly win the Super Bowl 421 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: because the stuff you go through in camp with the 422 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: season where guys you're up down and you go through 423 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: all these moments. Hell, I broke my back earlier that 424 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: year in camp and you know, come back and playing 425 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like, oh, we gotta need 426 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: to start for a few games, and then you know, 427 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm back to supposals. But at the same time, it 428 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, it was a lot of 429 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: hard work and a lot of effort and and things 430 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: you can't you know, that's the stuff you go through 431 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: in college and it's not as much as what it 432 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: takes to get to a super Bowl. And that's why 433 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: that's one of the top things ever in my life. 434 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember watching it for the press box and Ted 435 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: Gang gets that ball and that free kick and you're 436 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: like and so fast and like if you didn't get him, 437 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: he had some room he did. Cook was like right 438 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: behind yeah, like with Sam Cooks about yeah, he's fast. 439 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: I mean I've been on I played against when he 440 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: was at the Panthers when they came here in two 441 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: thousand preseason and he took a punt and ran into 442 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the house. That was in preseason. I was like, God, 443 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: leave Man's dude was fast. So then ironically we see 444 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: him again in Super Bowl and I was like, I'm 445 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: not running full speed down this field, you know, danging well, 446 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: he's fasting every one of us on this fields as 447 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: long as I'm in a position enough to make a 448 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: tackle on him. And I'm grateful to make that tack on. 449 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: And what people forget too is like you said, I 450 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: mean you started games that year when Ray got hurt. 451 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of stepped the tide when Ray 452 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: went out with his injury, which was really really big. 453 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean you're replacing Ray Lewis. It's not a small job. 454 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: That's kind of you tell the young guys that right now. 455 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: They look at me, they were old they're like ray 456 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Lewis man and they read him like yes, oh lord. 457 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you guys, you don't underst man. It's 458 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the legends, Like you know what I mean, like like, 459 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, but they old. You old? They old to 460 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: him like, man, I'm only nine years I'm just turning 461 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: thirty two months ago. Get out of here. How many 462 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: old jokes have you gotten? Just a couple? And then 463 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: but other teams, like in Arizona, because I was in 464 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Arizona was years seven and eight, so that most of 465 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: the guys were at least three years and under. So 466 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: they was like, dang, how long you been in seven? 467 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: It was like, man, you old. I'm like seven, I'm 468 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: only twenty eight. I'm not old. But you know, they 469 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: just look at the years and like, dang, you know 470 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: you've been in for a while, because if they know, 471 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty hard to get in the league this 472 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: this long. Obviously, since I've been here, we had guys 473 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: come in and made the roster and then you know, 474 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: and then that was it, you know. And I was 475 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: on pretty squar rookie year and we had Lakwan Williams, 476 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: who was undrafted, made the roster and heally did what 477 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: they wanted to Chavis Williams. He was on practice squad, 478 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: played and he was up the rest of the season. 479 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Played that one year, and I was it for him 480 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: when I came here, uh man, I mean I could 481 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: think about a lot of guys who had that one 482 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: or in two years and I was at Tandon DoLS. 483 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: He did what too? Maybe it was a fourth term 484 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: forefront pig Yeah you know, and um, yeah, that's what 485 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It go, it's crazy how you being and 486 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a couple of years go by, 487 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: like one guy going two guys and then you're like, dang, 488 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm really still and then let's keep on trying to 489 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: make a career. It's a testament to you. I mean 490 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: coming to undrafted out of all burn for a linebacker 491 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: to to last this long, to play this long career, 492 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: that's a that's a testament to you. What would you 493 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: say to people about how how you can do that, 494 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: how you can make a long career out of this 495 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: just adversity. Um, I've been through a lot of adversity 496 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: being in the NFL, you know, not being drafted, to 497 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: being cut because I'm undrafted, being denied opportunity, not deny opportunities, 498 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: but given uh you know, not looked upon to make 499 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, take an advantage those opportunities because you're on drafted. 500 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: It's like a little undrafted halo above your head, like no, 501 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: non drafted, don't don't worry about it, like it's just 502 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy, But it's it's being serious. I'm being saying 503 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: how coaches. Some coaches look at it like, oh, undrafted, 504 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: that's the reason why he's undrafted. Yeah, but that doesn't 505 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: mean you know, you know, it doesn't mean he's not 506 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: a great player. He does. He hasn't had those capabilities. 507 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: He just was, you know, maybe didn't have the numbers. 508 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: And I know I'm for a fact that I didn't 509 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: have the numbers. I'm not the fast guy in the 510 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: world or this and this and that. But one thing 511 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: about one thing you can't coach in this league is football. 512 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: And when you you know, that's that's the thing that's 513 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: been empowering me for the longest. But you got those 514 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: guys like the Butler for what's the first thing I 515 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: came on Butler for the Patriots? Now is that the 516 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Titans um the corner he was undrafted, you know what 517 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean exactly Butler. But I mean I could name 518 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: a thousand undrafted guys. I mean, we got and drafted 519 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: guys on the team. A J. Boullier for the corner 520 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars and Jaguars yet and I mean, I mean, 521 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: you can think about a ton of undrafted guys who's made, 522 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, a ton of money and putting themselves in 523 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: great position just because all they needed was opportunity. And 524 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, over the last eight years, well this year's 525 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: nine years, I've had opportunities and I'm just continually running 526 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: with it. You mentioned you're in two thousands twelve of 527 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: the back injury. Was that remind me? Was that like 528 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: a career threatening deal? I remember that being fairly serious 529 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah. Um, I had broke my transverse 530 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: processors like two on left, three and right, some crazy 531 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: number on right and left side. So, um, it was 532 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: weird because I couldn't like move my left leg. I 533 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: believe it was you know, it was it was. It was. 534 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: At first I just thought it was nothing serious, But 535 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: then I laid on the table and put ice on me, 536 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: and it was like, no, I was over from there, 537 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: and so they thought it was something else and I 538 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know it was. I was in 539 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: tears because I was in so much pain. So then 540 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: they rushed me to the hospital, and um, they're trying 541 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: to get me painments. I didn't want any. I just 542 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: sucked it up and was on painting on all the 543 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: way to the hospital and I finally did m R S. 544 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: And NEXTRAE on something. It was like, na, you know, 545 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: we thought it was like a you know, liver or whatever, 546 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: uptra screen, whatever case, some crazy stuff, and it was like, na, 547 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: you actually, you know, you kind of broke your back. 548 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: And I was like what I did? What? So that's 549 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: why we couldn't like sit up, so I couldn't turn 550 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything. I always need to help to 551 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: do stuff. So the first couple of weeks of it 552 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: was it was brutal because I couldn't literally my wife 553 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: well then fiance at the time was lucky enough she 554 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: was here, so she helped me. You know, I had 555 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: I had a little a big old jug from the 556 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: hospital to you know, because I couldn't make out of 557 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: bed to pee. I can't turn over, right, I couldn't 558 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: turn over, so I feel like just turn to the 559 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: side and try to pee on this out of there. 560 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: I know it's too much, I'm sorry, but it was 561 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: just that it's just that hard. I mean, the backage, 562 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I would never put it on anybody. It 563 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: was that difficult the move. You don't realize that, and 564 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: it was. It was tough, but over time gotten you know, 565 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: healed from it and and be able to come back 566 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: and play that season and obviously we want to Swoop 567 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Bowl that same season. It's crazy. Just think that you 568 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: were peeing off the side of the bed. Start you 569 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: ain't done not so it isn't a real year. That 570 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: year is crazy. And just this whole process, just you know, 571 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: this whole thing now going to this ninth year has 572 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: just been it's been insane and I'm just happy to 573 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: be here. One thing that I think it's crazy is 574 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: how your career here is kind of linked to c J. Mosley. 575 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he came, he got drafted the first round pick, 576 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: and they're like, all, here's the first round pick. He's 577 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the starter. Josh, sorry, man, you know, see 578 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: you pretty much right, and then and then c J 579 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: signs this offseason and behold, we need you back. That's 580 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: crazy enough, but it is what it is. You know, 581 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: I love c J to death, and uh, he's done 582 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: an amazing job, and it's just it's just crazy. And everybody, 583 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: see I got fifty seven six if I was like, 584 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: I wanted fifty seven, but CJ got drafted fifty seven again. 585 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: So here we go with c J again. Right, But 586 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I was seventeen in high school, seventeen costs. I wanted 587 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: to fitty seven. I came in, you couldn't get it. 588 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: But when I left, I knew I wanted fifty seven. 589 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: So I had in Detroit in Arizona. So when I 590 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: came back, I was new for a fact, I wanted 591 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: fifty seven. And I love that number, and you know 592 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, Juice, Yeah, of course that would 593 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I like it. Well, now you can make the last 594 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: sackle on this year Super Bowl. I love that, all right, Josh, 595 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: thank you for drawing. Thank you all right one, great guy, 596 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: Josh Binds Uh. I'm just really glad to have him back. 597 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Good player, a great guy. And you know it's funny, man, 598 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: It's just has the feeling of the Super Bowl. You're 599 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: around here, you get mcfeedback, you get Binds back. Who 600 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: else can we bring back? Well, the day that we 601 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: signed Binds, you also had Ed Reid in the building. 602 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: If we just had like a reunion feel, It's like 603 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: one of those games where like you bring back a 604 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: bunch of guys from a certain team. It just kind 605 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: of feel, how about this a little fun exercise. If 606 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: you could bring back one other guy from the super 607 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Bowl that's no longer here, could bring him back right 608 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: now and he's suiting up Sunday against the Bengals, Who's 609 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: he gonna be? That's a great question. Uh, Terrell sucks. 610 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's a guy that's still playing from that team. Yeah, 611 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: right right now? Yeah, and you could use him. I 612 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: mean we just say ray Lewis, you know what I mean? 613 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Like Ed Reid. I look for Ed Reid when I 614 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: saw him back in the building, I said, Edred could 615 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: probably see it up right now. He looks like he's 616 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: a great shape. Heloi now it looks like he's still 617 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: in pretty good shape too. I mean, I seriously think 618 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Helode could Helodi could play a game for sure. He 619 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: just like if it was a one game season, Heloti 620 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: could do it and do it pretty well. But as 621 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: he talked about when he was here and he was 622 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, he couldn't sign up for sixteen of 623 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: those things. Tough tough job. Um So yeah, it was 624 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: it was fun catching up with Josh Um, let's just 625 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: talk real quick about this team where they are. I 626 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: mean this game against the Bengals. This is a game 627 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: that the Ravens obviously should win. Um. And you were 628 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: bringing up to the point when we were talking earlier 629 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: that you think this could kind of be a get 630 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: right game. Yes, yeah, exactly. This is a two nut game. 631 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: It's a two note game. I think. I said, Uh, 632 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, you leave Pittsburgh obviously feeling great. Anytime you 633 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: win in Pittsburgh in that environment, I don't care who's 634 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: at quarterback for them, you feel awesome. Uh, your first 635 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: place in division. But there's no bones about it. The 636 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: offense had some up and downs, you know, periods in 637 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: that game. Three turnovers, right, The defense was giving up 638 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: yards and touched touchdown and I think to their third 639 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: string quarterback Hodges Um, so you know, you don't come 640 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: out of it feeling like you played great. You feel 641 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: good that you gotta win. This is a game where 642 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens could kind of put it together. 643 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: Get back on defense, get some turnovers, a couple of turnovers, 644 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: some sacks, get the pass right, rush on track a 645 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: little bit offensively, you know, get back to where they 646 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: were and that Miami air zone. I'm not saying they're 647 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna put up that many points as they did in Miami, 648 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, they've just been a little bit off. 649 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not worried about the offense in general, 650 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: but just from some overthrows now turnovers, given up, more sacks. 651 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: You know, the run game has been a little hit 652 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: or miss in terms of the running backs. Um, you know, 653 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: bottled up at times a little bit. So I think 654 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: this game presents an opportunity to kind of get the 655 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: confidence back, get a win, be feeling really good going 656 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: into a big game and and what's gonna be a 657 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: very tough game in Seattle the week following. Obviously, though, 658 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: you can't overlook the Bengals because the a s C 659 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: North opponent and you never know when they can jump, 660 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, you can't obviously can't overlook the Bengals. Um, 661 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: I think I totally agree with you. Think getting the 662 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: running game, I track is pretty big for this offense, 663 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: and I think this could be a big week for it. 664 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: The Bengals have the thirty first ranked rush defense. A 665 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of that's because teams are up big and then 666 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: the running the ball against him Laton in late games. 667 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: But the Ravens should be able to run the ball 668 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: with Ingram and gus Um and just basically in the 669 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: second half of this game, I think it should be 670 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Ingram right, Gus left and be able to kind of 671 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: put the game away and have success there um win 672 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: by a couple of scores, double digit victory, I think. 673 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like we're overlooking, man, but I'm 674 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: just speaking from the standpoint of I've said this before. 675 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: If we think the Ravens are a playoff team, which 676 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I do, you've got to beat the teams that you're 677 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: supposed to beat. And the Bengals are and five at 678 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: your place, in five at your place, and they're one 679 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: of the they're one of the worst teams in the league, 680 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: so you gotta be yes, so absolutely. I mean they 681 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: also Andy Dalton has been sacked i think time two 682 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and sacked more often than Andy Aalton. So if 683 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: it's the pass rushes time to kind of get right, 684 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: this is it. The other thing, too, is after this game, 685 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: schedule obviously toughens up. You gotta go to Seattle. Russell 686 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Wilson's putting together an m v P type season. Then 687 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: it's by then home New England. We all know what 688 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: that game is going to be, so and then I think, 689 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: what it's Bengals Texans. Yeah, I have to look back 690 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: at the schedule, but those next two, I mean, you 691 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: gotta get to you gotta get to four and two 692 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: before you go to two really difficult games. And then 693 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: the Browns obviously lose on Monday nights. So now you're 694 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: back on first in first place in the division. They've 695 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: got a tough stretch to also facing the Seahawks Patriots 696 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: back to back. But then they're seeing their schedule really soft, 697 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: it gets really light, and so you want to be 698 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: able to maybe build up an early lead here before 699 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: they get can rattle off some wins late in the season. 700 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: I do think this is still gonna go down to 701 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: the wire. It's certainly the Ravens and the Browns. I 702 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: don't think that anybody's necessarily is going to separate, but 703 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens have the talent to do so. 704 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: But obviously you lost the lost of the Browns, so 705 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, you don't you don't feel great about that, um, 706 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: but you know the forty Niners game. Now for the 707 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: Ravens is looking like a tougher game. They look really good. 708 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: So Theills is not a gimme Bills is not gonna 709 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: be No, I mean that could be for a wild 710 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: card spot potentially, you know they're in the wild card mix. 711 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: Certainly the Bills are um, but the Ravens I think 712 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: have the talent to take care of business on their end. 713 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: As John Harball said this week, and uh, it starts 714 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: this Sunday at Mt Bank Stadium with since Sanati Bengals. 715 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: Make sure you get to the game. This is gonna 716 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: be a good weather game. Probably have a good chance 717 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: to seeing a win. This is a game folks should 718 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: come out for. Yeah, absolutely absolutely so it should be 719 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh. There are a few tickets 720 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: that are still left for this game. We were actually 721 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: uh waving fees on ticketmasters so that fees can get aggressive. Yeah, 722 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: so go ahead and take advantage of that. Uh. It's 723 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: a limited time deal. So don't wait around until Sunday 724 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: morning and say, oh maybe we'll go to game. Get 725 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: that done, um, and make sure you get your tickets 726 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: and see a good game on Sunday. Cool. Well, we'll 727 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: be back next week. As always, you can reach us 728 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: at the Ravens at emails. I'm trying to throw up 729 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: the sens, so I'll have to send any more T shirts. 730 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: You can reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot 731 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: NFL dot net and get ready for a big win. Oh, 732 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: we sit up with the bagels.