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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's Giants on

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Moubul give me some job. Part of the

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Speaker 1: Giants podcast network, Let's roll.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Gihns Little Podcast. Our

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Speaker 2: normal Friday fair today, Folks is all presented by Citizens,

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Speaker 2: the official bank of the New York Football Giants. So

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Speaker 2: we have Bob Poppo with head coach of the Giants,

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable. I do my preview with the Bears with

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Speaker 2: Brad Biggs. I'm gonna have a quick interview with Marcus

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Speaker 2: bow who may get the start for Jamaine Lumino again

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Speaker 2: at right tackle. But we're gonna lead things off with

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Speaker 2: our long player interview, and that's going to be my

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Speaker 2: conversation with Giants safety Tyler Nuban. We touched on a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff, including his performance this year, the defense,

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Speaker 2: and of course the matchup against the Bears. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: another edition of the Johns Little Podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Citizens Official Bank at the Giants. I'm John Schmelk,

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Speaker 2: today's guest from the Hackensack Marine Hell podcast Sdeo Keep

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Speaker 2: Getting Better. We now are joined by Giant safety Tyler Nuban.

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Speaker 2: New What's going on.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's good to talk to you. I'm always a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: So you're going home little in Chicago, So now you

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Speaker 3: play in Northwestern? Is this like your first like home

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Speaker 3: home game though playing in Chicago?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, yes, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Northwestern we played there a couple of times, but didn't

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Speaker 5: have too many people there because you know, late in

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Speaker 5: the season, you know.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean, right.

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Speaker 4: Right right, yeah, but this this is definitely gonna hit

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Speaker 4: home for me.

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Speaker 2: How many people you have gone?

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Speaker 4: Too many?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 4: Upwards of twenty for sure?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right?

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Speaker 2: Is it like what like what are the emotions going

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Speaker 2: on playing there? Is it like excitement?

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Speaker 6: Is like?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I've been thinking about this game for a long

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Speaker 5: time just because you know, I remember growing up, you know,

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Speaker 5: my my pops taking me to Bears games, you know,

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Speaker 5: being up there at Soldier Field, and you know, my

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Speaker 5: first memory ever, you know being in there is telling

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Speaker 5: my dad, man, I'm going to be down there one day,

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Speaker 5: And you know, my dad was like, man, I think

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Speaker 5: you think you are going to be down there one day.

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Speaker 5: I'm like six six, five six years old at this time,

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Speaker 5: and he's like, man, it's gonna take a lot to

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Speaker 5: get there. You like, you know, it's gonna take hard words, Okay, dedication.

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Speaker 5: You know, he kind of mapped it out for me,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I took it to heart and I

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Speaker 5: believed it, and honestly, it's gonna be definitely a welcome

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Speaker 5: to the NFL, you know moment.

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Speaker 4: For me, like when it finally like sings in, like dang,

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Speaker 4: like I really made.

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Speaker 2: It, dude, that's awesome. Did you go up a Bears fan?

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Speaker 4: I did? Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of joy.

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Speaker 2: So and they're welcoming home in the proper Chicago way.

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Speaker 2: We might get snow like you played in Minnesota. So

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Speaker 2: you know we're chatting before we started. This is like

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Speaker 2: nothing to you, but are you kind of looking forward

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Speaker 2: to like playing in that like Midwest weather.

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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love playing it call way Bear than playing it hot.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about this game. In the matchup,

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of connections with a lot of

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Speaker 2: these guys and the Bears you're in the draft class

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Speaker 2: with with both Rome and Caleb. Right in college you

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Speaker 2: played against both Money and Guy and Loveland Rutgers in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with their passing game first. Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: if you think I'm wrong. Just ridiculous arm talent. And

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Speaker 5: Like you said, he's got incredible arm talent. Man, I

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Speaker 5: There's not a throw that they don't trust him to make.

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Speaker 5: You know, they do a lot of those you know sales,

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Speaker 5: But I think the thing that makes the most dangerous

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Speaker 5: because once he breaks the pocket, they're really good at

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Speaker 4: So it's definitely gonna be a challenge, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about one to Dj Moore a couple

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Speaker 2: right over the shoulder. Unbelievable throw. And then they have

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Speaker 2: different weapons, right I mentioned Dj Moore, Then you're roma Duns.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of your bigger receiver than the tight ends

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Speaker 2: He's had a really good year this year. But what

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Speaker 2: is Yeah, all those guys, what is about the variety

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Speaker 5: Then there are a lot of different guys that can

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Speaker 5: do different things. Like you said Dj Moore, he's kind

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Speaker 5: make those fifty fifty catches.

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Speaker 1: Rome.

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Speaker 5: Uh, he's definitely got a bigger receiver, but he can

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Speaker 4: So they definitely. They got a lot of versatile guys.

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Speaker 5: And you know, one thing that I will commend them on,

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Speaker 5: You know, they're definitely gonna, you know, get dirty in there,

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the run game. Let's get to that next.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have DeAndre Swift last week. Kyle Munning, guy

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Speaker 2: I looked up you played him in your junior year.

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Speaker 2: I believe in Minnesota really productive running back in college.

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Speaker 2: What are the things that maybe he and Swift do

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Speaker 5: I think definitely they're they're both really really great vision guys.

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Speaker 5: They can make every single cut, you know they're going

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Speaker 5: giving these guys the ability to use their talents and

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Speaker 4: So that's what makes it.

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Speaker 5: Like really really hard because you never know where they're

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Speaker 4: So that's what I think.

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Speaker 5: You know, both of them do really well, and you know,

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the outside runs. That's something that at times

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Speaker 2: the last couple weeks have given your defense some issues. Right,

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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you guys when

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Speaker 2: that you need to do better on some of those

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Speaker 2: What do you guys need to do better to prevent

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Speaker 5: Things just playing team football, man, and just trusting and

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Speaker 5: you know, those outside runs, a lot of those linemen

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Speaker 5: getting over playing the gap in the half, being able

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Speaker 5: not everybody's you know, hesitating and waiting to see where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that because people

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Speaker 2: that you know where you have to insert based on

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Speaker 5: It's everything. I think knowing where you're going is more important.

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Speaker 4: Than actually getting there because you can play that much faster,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Once you know that you know my three techniques is

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Speaker 5: you know a little nuances in our defense where you

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Speaker 5: know we're playing certain things and if you know where

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Speaker 5: your guy's gonna be, you can just play that much faster.

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Speaker 2: How can stuff like that make you either look late

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Speaker 2: little detail in how the front's supposed to be played

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Speaker 2: and how you're reacting off of that. How much can

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Speaker 2: that make those other two things look off?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 5: Like everything, I think, especially for my position safety, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're the last line of defense.

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Speaker 4: So you know on the TV copy, you know when.

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Speaker 5: The run breaks and you know we're not there, and

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe I'm a little hesitant because you know

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Speaker 5: something happens up front that you know I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 4: Right, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: To be the player that I want to be.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I got great coaches, great teammates, that

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Speaker 2: What are the things that you're really trying to focus

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Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. So let's like I said,

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Speaker 5: You just gotta be able to see the differences in all, right,

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Speaker 4: Come hut, hut. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Now you're you're not too focused on your on your

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Speaker 2: And then two tight ends that can block and catch,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's super tough, and I think

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Speaker 5: But you know, both those guys they're they're incredible, incredible

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Speaker 4: Both of them can make all the catches and they're

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 5: I mean you really can't. Honestly, You just gotta be

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Speaker 5: and you gotta know the situations that they're they're gonna

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Speaker 5: all right, you know, trick play might come here.

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Speaker 2: Like midfield second and short.

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Speaker 5: Right second and short you know, down the score, you

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Speaker 5: trick play here. You just you gotta play it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate Nuben Johnson the podcast. You thank you so

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Speaker 2: in to talk about them from the Chicago Tribune Brad Biggs.

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Speaker 1: Brad, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Man? Well, the Bears have had a little bit of

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Speaker 6: success this season. They've got the fan base pretty fired up.

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Speaker 6: And I will say that the first year coach Ben

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Speaker 6: Jonson has done a pretty nice job to this point

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Speaker 6: in the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on track for the first quarterback with over four

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Speaker 2: thousand yards and Bears history, And I guess we'll start there,

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Speaker 2: Brad on offense. It looks like your skill position guys

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Speaker 2: are all getting pretty healthy. Anyone that we should be

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Speaker 2: keeping an eye on heading up the game time on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: And even if guys are playing, is anyone maybe playing

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Speaker 2: a little bit hampered? I know Romadoonese played last week

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Speaker 2: wasn't really productive. So what should we be keeping an

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Speaker 2: eye in terms of the injury front with all those

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Speaker 2: Bears skill position guys at tight end, wide receiver, and

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Speaker 2: running back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. Denze's been bothered a little

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Speaker 6: bit by a heel, but I think he was more

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Speaker 6: bothered by d J. Turner, the Bengals cornerback last week.

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Speaker 6: One of the few promising young players on that Bengals

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Speaker 6: defense that the Bears encountered. But they've got plenty of options.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Manungai, the Rutgers product, broke out last week with

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Speaker 6: al I think it was about one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: six yards rushing. So it'll be interesting to see if

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Swift, who it looks like he's tracking toward playing

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Speaker 6: after missing last week with the groin injury that's bothered

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Speaker 6: him almost most of the season. It'll be interesting to

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Speaker 6: see if both are available, How the playing time is

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Speaker 6: divided by Ben Johnson for the two running backs. I

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Speaker 6: mean you have to imagine it's some type of backfield

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Speaker 6: share and game situation and game flow will dictate a

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Speaker 6: little bit of it. But how does Ben Johnson deploys

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Speaker 6: two running backs?

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Speaker 1: How about the offensive line?

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Speaker 2: To talk about what's going on at left tackle? Have

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Speaker 2: the Bears come close to trying to figure that out?

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Speaker 2: Is it's still a work in progress? And how has

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Speaker 2: the rest of that line come together with the way

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is using them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, left tackle is an issue that I don't know

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Speaker 6: that they're going to solve in season here. That could

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Speaker 6: be something that is at the top of the to

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Speaker 6: do list heading then of the offseason. They're playing THEO

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Speaker 6: Benedett there right now, who is an undrafted free agent

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Speaker 6: a year ago out of the University of British Columbia.

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Speaker 6: He's the first UBC player I've seen playing for the

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Speaker 6: Bears in twenty five years of covering the team. But

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Speaker 6: you know what, talking to the O line coach and

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Speaker 6: some of the other assistants, they feel like it's arrow

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Speaker 6: up for him each week. Is it this incremental step

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Speaker 6: forward necessarily? No, is the degree of difficulty going to

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Speaker 6: be ratcheted up on Sunday against the Giants, You bet

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Speaker 6: it is. And he's there for right now. They had

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Speaker 6: Braxton Jones, a veteran there. Braxton's on ir with a

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Speaker 6: knee injury. Right now, They've got a second round pick

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Speaker 6: out of Boston College, Azzie Trapillo, who's kind of the

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Speaker 6: swing tackle right now. So that's sort of a week

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Speaker 6: by week proposition for him. Unless theo Benedette that the

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Speaker 6: Canadian makes a huge jump forward in the remainder of

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Speaker 6: the season, it's probably at the top of their offseason

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Speaker 6: shopping list.

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Speaker 2: Where have you seen the most improvement from Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: this year and where maybe even if have you seen

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Speaker 2: him make progress as the season has gone along.

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Speaker 6: I think the most improvement he's made is just being

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Speaker 6: a little more comfortable playing on time, playing from the pocket,

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Speaker 6: being on schedule, and there's still a ton of room

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Speaker 6: for growth in that area for Caleb. But from the

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Speaker 6: start of the season and now too, I'd say he's

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Speaker 6: had a lot better command of things pre snap. Yet

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Speaker 6: it still needs to get a ton better. Like you

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Speaker 6: go back to training camp and the Bears would have

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Speaker 6: difficulty getting out of the huddle on time, getting to

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, getting guys lined up in the

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Speaker 6: right spot. So some of that stuff was still an

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Speaker 6: issue early in the season. They've got sixteen false starts,

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Speaker 6: which is way too many. Nine of those false starts

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Speaker 6: have come in three games at Soldier Field, like, so

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Speaker 6: it's not opponent crowd noise that's forcing them to jump.

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Speaker 6: It's some of its cadence issues with the quarterback. So

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Speaker 6: that's something to watch here Sunday. Can the Bears clean

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Speaker 6: up some of their penalty issues because they have been

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Speaker 6: one of the most penalized teams in the entire league.

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Speaker 6: I would imagine they're still like the net penalty difference

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Speaker 6: yards against the Bears yards against Bears opponents that was

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Speaker 6: number one in the league by a wide margin, and

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Speaker 6: a lot of that has been stuff that they should

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Speaker 6: just be able to clean up.

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Speaker 2: In terms of calebs, see if you can square their

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Speaker 2: circle for me, Brad right now, I saw a stat

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Speaker 2: where if the season ended today in the next gen

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Speaker 2: stats era, he'd have the longest average time to throw

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Speaker 2: of any quarterback in that era. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: the sack rate is not bad he does a great

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Speaker 2: job of avoiding pressure. Is that just his natural ability

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Speaker 2: to scramble and his instincts? How have the bear has

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Speaker 2: been able to kind of not get killed giving up

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Speaker 2: a bunch of sacks even though he has held the

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Speaker 2: ball back there a bunch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's held the ball, But I think he's been

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Speaker 6: better at it than he was a year ago, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I'm glad you brought that up because they have

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Speaker 6: cut their sack rate in half. I it was eregious

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Speaker 6: last year. It was close to eleven percent. They've taken

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Speaker 6: that thing and they've cut it in half. So the

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Speaker 6: time to throw thing, I personally think that can be

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Speaker 6: not always, but in a lot of cases can be

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Speaker 6: one of the most misleading statistics out there. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's got more time to throw because he's got an

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Speaker 6: ability to keep a play alive that not a whole

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Speaker 6: lot of other quarterbacks have. Right, Jackson darts the same way. Yep,

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen can do that kind of thing. Mahomes when

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Speaker 6: he wants to write, there's a there's a group of

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Speaker 6: guys that can do that. So in some instances that's

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Speaker 6: a great thing. In other instances it's not a good

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Speaker 6: thing because it means your quarterback or your offense isn't

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Speaker 6: able to get through the progressions one to two or

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Speaker 6: even a three and get the ball out on time.

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Speaker 6: So I try to you know, I'll look at those

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Speaker 6: numbers with time to throw in some of that stuff.

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Speaker 6: But man, the people who have a cause that they

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Speaker 6: want to advance or drive home, that's one of those

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Speaker 6: first stats they take and they use it whichever direction

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Speaker 6: they want to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brad, to your point at the top of

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Speaker 2: that board every year in the NFL is Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, right, because they move around the lot.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right about one hundred percent. What should I

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Speaker 2: make of this offense? And I guess maybe the Bears

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Speaker 2: team overall, Brad, Before I get to the defense, they've

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Speaker 2: had a lot of their five and three, they've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of success, but they've done it against some

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Speaker 2: of the worst defenses in the league, right, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, the Commanders, and then they've two wins against

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Speaker 2: the Raiders and Saints. Those teams have struggled this year too.

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Speaker 2: So what should I make of this offense? Given the

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Speaker 2: opponents and the team where I think they've played well.

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Speaker 2: They've been exciting to watch, But do you really know

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Speaker 2: what this team is yet?

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Speaker 1: Given how the season's gone.

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Speaker 6: I think you're still learning about him a little bit,

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Speaker 6: and I think they're learning about themselves a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But I tell you this much, Ben Jonson, for being

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Speaker 6: this offensive architect, act and stuff, he really likes to

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Speaker 6: run the football like he spends He'll tell you he

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Speaker 6: spends more time in play design and study and game

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Speaker 6: planning and scheming for running the football than he does

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Speaker 6: throwing it. Like that, and he's a former quarterback, but man,

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Speaker 6: it is grounded and rooted in that running game, and

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Speaker 6: so he saw him get going against Cincinnati last week.

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Speaker 6: I know the Giants have had a difficult time this

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Speaker 6: season stopped in the run, so I think it all

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Speaker 6: begins there. But I think it's natural the question where

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Speaker 6: these guys are going to be at offensively because of

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Speaker 6: some of the teams that have been on their schedule,

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Speaker 6: And as is the case sometimes in the National Football League,

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Speaker 6: it's not who you play, but it's when you play them.

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Speaker 6: You know they played. They seemingly had a great opportunity

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Speaker 6: against Baltimore with Lamar out and they lost to Tyler Huntley.

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Speaker 6: Then they play Cincinnati with Joe Burrow out and boy,

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Speaker 6: they almost you know, they almost got caught with their

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Speaker 6: hand in the fire because Flaco went bonkers, especially there

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Speaker 6: near the end of the game. So they're still kind of,

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Speaker 6: I think, figuring out who they are. But oftensively, a

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Speaker 6: lot of what they're doing is is really foundational to

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Speaker 6: the running game, and the quarterback Kayleb Williams, with his

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Speaker 6: athletic ability, can just kind of add to that. Hasn't

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Speaker 6: been every week okay, but has shown an ability to

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Speaker 6: really like I think he's faster now. I honestly think

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Speaker 6: he's faster now as a runner than he was last season.

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Speaker 6: Like he's one of those guys that at age twenty

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Speaker 6: three or something was able to make himself faster.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, let's jump to the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball here, and you know you talked about it

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Speaker 2: an offense explosive plays in the run game, then they

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Speaker 2: run play actual they want explosive plays in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Well, the defense has given.

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Speaker 2: Up a bunch of explosive plays, but they've made a

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Speaker 2: bunch of big plays with the takeaways.

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Speaker 1: We know Dennis Allen.

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Speaker 2: He has a long history, you know, being with the

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Speaker 2: Saints and the type of defense they run there. What

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Speaker 2: is this Giants offense going to see on the field

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Speaker 2: when they take on the Bears defense in terms of

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Speaker 2: how they want.

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Speaker 1: To structure things and how they want to approach it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you what it's And I don't know

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Speaker 6: that I've covered a defense quite like this one, and

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Speaker 6: all the time I've been doing it because they've been

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Speaker 6: so productive in some key metrics, right, like like you

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Speaker 6: mentioned the takeaways, they've been dynamite on third down, but

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Speaker 6: some of these other things you look at, they've been

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Speaker 6: really bad, like really bad. But it's this really good

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Speaker 6: third down defense that can't rush the quarterback. Like how usually,

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Speaker 6: you know, if you want to be pretty good on

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Speaker 6: third down or if you are pretty good on third down,

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Speaker 6: I think generally you get after the quarterback a little bit. Well,

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Speaker 6: these guys, these guys have really struggled to get pressure

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Speaker 6: on the quarterback. I will say Montese Sweat has been

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Speaker 6: better of late. He's got a sack in three consecutive games.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of come on them a little bit. But

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Speaker 6: they're desperate for a pass rush and and they've been

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Speaker 6: getting hit with with big plays. Like you know, it

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Speaker 6: wasn't just Flaco last week, It's happened all season. Like

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Speaker 6: Flacco had ten completions of plays that went for twenty

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Speaker 6: or more yards last week. That's a recipe for losing

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Speaker 6: almost every week in the National FOOTBA League. The Lions

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Speaker 6: bombed them back in Week two, and they've been terrible

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Speaker 6: on first down, although some of the numbers look a

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Speaker 6: little bit better if you just stripped the Detroit game

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Speaker 6: out of it all together. But like it's just it's

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Speaker 6: kind of this odd dichotomy because they're they're so good

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Speaker 6: and in some key areas like takeaways. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: go find a defensive coach and the Giants building today

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Speaker 6: that doesn't say takeaways is the number one thing for him? Right, Well,

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Speaker 6: Bear's been fantastic at that, but some of these other

659
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Speaker 6: things they're they're really struggling, and they've struggled to stop

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Speaker 6: the run. So one thing to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 6: Does TJ. Edwards the linebacker play he's listed on Andrew

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Speaker 6: report with a hand and a hamstring, and they've been

663
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Speaker 6: significantly better when he's been on the field this season

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Speaker 6: than when he's been out previously. The time missed was

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Speaker 6: because of a hamstring.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, final question on the defense, Brad, and

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Speaker 2: then I'll let you go. I really appreciate the time,

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Speaker 2: awesome stuff the secondary, lot of vertical stuff against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: When I rewatched that game last week.

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Speaker 2: We know Dennis Allen will play his fair share of

671
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Speaker 2: man de man defense, but I was looking at some

672
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Speaker 2: of the metrics. There's a lot of cover two in

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Speaker 2: there as well. Naseean Wright is a guy that got

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Speaker 2: let go by the Dallas Cowboys, and we all know

675
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Speaker 2: what their defense has looked like this year. But he

676
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Speaker 2: also in a big takeaway last week. What have been

677
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Speaker 2: some of the areas of weakness in that secondary of

678
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart wants to attack. Where should he look in

679
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Speaker 2: that secondary group where the Bears have had some issues.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they've been like I said, the big plays

681
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Speaker 6: they've come in bunches against him, Like it's been a bonanza,

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Speaker 6: big place against against Right. Uh, There's been some quarterbacks

683
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Speaker 6: that have had some success against Tyreek Stevenson On the

684
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Speaker 6: other side, although Stevenson's been better this season, the Bears

685
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Speaker 6: have been missing their nickel corner back Tyler Gordon for

686
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Speaker 6: most of the year after making him the highest paid

687
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Speaker 6: nickel in football. He's got He's got like a three

688
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Speaker 6: pack soft tissue injuries. It's unbelievable. So that's why they

689
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Speaker 6: went out and got CJ. Gardner Jackson, who I'm sure

690
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Speaker 6: has had plenty of run ins with the Giants previously.

691
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Speaker 6: So there's there's plays to be made downfield looking at

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Speaker 6: the you know, I know Mike grow from his time here.

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Speaker 6: That's got to be a tough situation to be in

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Speaker 6: as a coach, uh with with no Molik neighbors, to

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Speaker 6: kind of be the player your your at least on

696
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Speaker 6: the outside, your rookie quarterback can lean on a little bit.

697
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Speaker 6: But yeah, they've been susceptible to big plays, no question

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Speaker 6: about that. If they as can get the pass protection

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Speaker 6: to hold up Jackson Dartle have time. What's the weather

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Speaker 6: like on Sunday, I'm not sure yet that could impact

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Speaker 6: a downfield passing game.

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Speaker 2: I lied by one more quick one. I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 2: them myself later today. What do these takeaways look like?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: You know, basy The takeaways can come in different forms, right,

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Speaker 2: We know they have a bunch of plays where they're

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Speaker 2: knocking the ball out. But are these interceptions plays where

708
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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks is making bad throws? Are the Bears jumping routes?

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Speaker 2: Are they deflections? How have the Bears been able to

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Speaker 2: create this many takeaways?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little bit everything for mein Edmonds, I'll

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Speaker 6: give him credit. They paid him huge money, like you know,

713
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Speaker 6: three years ago in free agency, basically to replace Rokwan

714
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Speaker 6: Smith and the big plays, the splash plays, the momentum

715
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Speaker 6: changing plays were few and far between the first two years.

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Speaker 6: He's been making them this year and it's been reading

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Speaker 6: stuff underneath of being in the right place. Kevin Bayered

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Speaker 6: the safety, it's been uh, sort of laying a trap

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Speaker 6: for like he picked up Geno Smith twice. He's got

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Speaker 6: four interceptions this season where it was just kind of

721
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Speaker 6: laying a trap over the middle for Gino and Gino's

722
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Speaker 6: played a lot of football. He took the bait both times.

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Speaker 6: So it's been heads up plays like that. There there's

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Speaker 6: been a deflection in there, a little a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a little bit of everything. And when when they

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Speaker 6: get extra possessions for that offense, they can be really dangerous.

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Speaker 6: Uh So we'll we'll see because I think, and I

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Speaker 6: haven't seen the Giants much, but Dart's dont a pretty

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Speaker 6: good job at least to protecting the football, right yep, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Which is that, like that's one of those pitfalls that

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Speaker 6: rookie quarterbacks can fall into in a in a heartbeat,

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Speaker 6: in an instant and really you know, crush the team's

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Speaker 6: chance for uh success. So it's it's been could play

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Speaker 6: across the board and byered in Edmonds. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: they've got four picks each for a defense that leads

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Speaker 6: the league in the category.

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Speaker 1: Brad, tell the folks where you you'll find your great work.

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Speaker 2: If Giant fans want to get a feel for what

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Speaker 2: they're running into in Chicago against the Bears on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Well I'm on Twitter at Brad Biggs and you can

741
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Speaker 6: find me at the Chicago Tribune.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Brad, appreciate the time you see on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Have a great day.

744
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Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

745
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Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're

746
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Speaker 2: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk

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Speaker 2: to citizens.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care.

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Speaker 8: I'd like to learn about a mollia routine.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I knew I.

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Speaker 2: Could help make sense of your money with citizens. Great stuff,

752
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Speaker 2: good information from Brad Biggs there from the Chicago Tribune

753
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Speaker 2: talking about the Chicago Bears. Let's turn our attentions to

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Speaker 2: the Giants offense. I had a chance to talk to

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Speaker 2: rookie offensive tackle Marcus Bow. He started last week against

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. We'll see about Jamaine Luminor's peck injury.

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Speaker 2: He might have a chance to play again this week.

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Speaker 2: Here's Marcus. All right, now we're joined my Giants offensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Marcus. Well, Marcus, So you've had a chance to

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Speaker 2: play significantly time in three games.

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Speaker 1: Now, how do you think it's gone so far for

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Speaker 1: you this year?

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Speaker 9: I feel like it's been solid, you know, good opportunities

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Speaker 9: to get out there and get better at my craft,

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Speaker 9: get live refs when bullets are fine.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: I think it's been good, good opportunities and to keep

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Speaker 9: trying to make.

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Speaker 8: The best of them.

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Speaker 2: I know we talked in the preseason about it after

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Speaker 2: you got a lot of time, and we do Andrew

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to start the year. What has been different

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Speaker 2: about the regular season as compared to what you saw

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Speaker 2: in training camp? In the preseason.

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Speaker 9: Uh, I'd say the original like intensity. You know, going

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Speaker 9: from the first day of camp from OTAs you're like, oh,

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Speaker 9: it's a big jump, all right, and then when it

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Speaker 9: goes to OTA or camp to the regular season, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 9: it's really serious. So you see the intensity change and

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Speaker 9: you see all just everything change, you know, in terms

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Speaker 9: of the game planning and how much you put into

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Speaker 9: it and like the overall intensity.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, what.

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Speaker 2: Has it been having to jump from like the left

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Speaker 2: to the right side and kind of going back and forth.

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Speaker 9: Uh, it's you know, something they asked me to do,

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Speaker 9: and it's something is a challenge for me, and I

788
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Speaker 9: like challenges. I mean, I haven't played left tackle before,

789
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Speaker 9: so you know, taking that on and trying to learn

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Speaker 9: that and trying to be the best player that I

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Speaker 9: can over there as well doing it simultaneously at the

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Speaker 9: right side, So it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Is the biggest challenge to getting the feet right switching

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Speaker 2: sides or is it getting the hand placing right and

795
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Speaker 2: kind of getting the punches timed up with the feet?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say I'd probably say the just the overall

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Speaker 8: consistency of the feet, Like I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 8: I can do a good job of having a good

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Speaker 8: pass set in like good hands, but like doing it

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Speaker 8: repetitively and when there's like live scenarios or one you

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Speaker 8: need to get tired on the.

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Speaker 9: Left side, you know, just trying to.

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Speaker 2: Clean some of those things up as you move forward.

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Speaker 1: Now, just two more questions.

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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you are really

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Speaker 2: locky on trying to focus on and clean up and

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Speaker 2: get better at as you've gotten more reps in these

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Speaker 2: game situations.

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Speaker 8: My when it comes to pass protection, I feel like

810
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Speaker 8: keeping a base.

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Speaker 10: And keeping uh, keep keeping myself square when it comes

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Speaker 10: to standing in my punch, just staying on my kickset

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Speaker 10: one more extra extra slide and just being more.

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Speaker 9: Consistent with that and getting too my spot being firm there.

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Speaker 9: I'd say that's the main thing I've been trying to

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Speaker 9: focus on.

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Speaker 2: So we don't know if your mean is going to

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Speaker 2: play this week, he's dealing with this with this peck injury,

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Speaker 2: you would be back in your comfort zone and right

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Speaker 2: tackle like you were last week. What is it about

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Speaker 2: the Bears how they rushed the past or Montese sweat

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Speaker 2: when you watch them on tape that you think is

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Speaker 2: a particular challenge.

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Speaker 9: Uh, I mean great, great player. You know, I remember

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Speaker 9: watching Montes sweat when I was in high school what NOTO.

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Speaker 9: So it's like it's it's it's cool to think about,

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Speaker 9: you know. Now we get an opportunity to play against

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Speaker 9: somebody like that. But good player likes to go speed

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Speaker 9: to power, you know, use the length and the athleticism

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Speaker 9: that he has. And overall their front is just pretty physical,

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Speaker 9: pretty vertical, crush procket team. So it'll be a good challenge.

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Speaker 9: We're excited to go.

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Speaker 8: Marcus pusce ed Timment absolutely, thank you.

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Speaker 2: He's a great kid and he is a bright future

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Speaker 2: here as a member of the Giants offensive line. Now

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Speaker 2: let's go to the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa.

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Speaker 2: He's with the head coach of the NYG Brian Dables.

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Speaker 7: As always, were joined by the head coach of the

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Speaker 7: New York Giants, Brian Dable and coach taking out a

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Speaker 7: Bears team that's won like three of their last four

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Speaker 7: since their bye. They put a lot of points up

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Speaker 7: on the board last week against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Are they getting does it.

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Speaker 7: Look like, at least on tape to getting a little

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Speaker 7: bit more comfortable with a new head coach, and what

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Speaker 7: they're doing offensively, especially the quarterback and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the thing that I've noticed is they've

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Speaker 11: they've won the close games, you know, and those that

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Speaker 11: game last week against Cincinnati obviously was a wild game,

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Speaker 11: but they won the Washington game, you know, right in

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Speaker 11: the end of the fourth quarter. They won the Raiders

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Speaker 11: game the end of the fourth quarter with the black

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Speaker 11: field goal. So they're making, you know, critical plays at

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Speaker 11: critical times to give themselves a chance to get the

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Speaker 11: outcome that they want.

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Speaker 7: The run game obviously is important for them as well,

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Speaker 7: like every team, and even with DeAndre Swift out, they

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Speaker 7: had a rookie from Rutgers, klem Manungay run the ball well.

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Speaker 7: Last week, Coach, they added Tony to their offensive line.

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Speaker 7: Just talk a little bit about trying to deal with

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Speaker 7: what they want to do conceptually in their run game.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think you have to know which back is

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Speaker 11: in the game. I mean, they both can run both things,

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Speaker 11: but Swift is a I would say, an elite perimeter

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Speaker 11: back who when he gets out in space, has created

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Speaker 11: a lot of big explosive plays for their team this year.

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Speaker 11: I'm talking about twelve plus runs, so the toss plays,

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Speaker 11: you know, whether cracking receivers or whether they're blocking it

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Speaker 11: like zone. The outside zone play is a staple for

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Speaker 11: that team, and that runner, their line does a very

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Speaker 11: good job of blocking it. And you know, he's a

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Speaker 11: you know, he can run it outside, but he can

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Speaker 11: run it inside. He's got very good contact balance. He's

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Speaker 11: a tough runner. So they really they really do a

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Speaker 11: good job of affecting the width of the entire field

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Speaker 11: in the run game, and their blocking schemes are good.

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Speaker 11: You know, again, whether it's the outside zone, whether it's

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Speaker 11: they're double teams. Their offensive line does a good job

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Speaker 11: of running off the ball, and you know that's the

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00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 11: you know, that's where their offense starts, is the running game,

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Speaker 11: and then they use the play action off of it.

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Speaker 11: And they're a good screen team. That's another thing Swift

883
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Speaker 11: has created a lot of explosives from is the screen game.

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Speaker 11: So those are three elements that we're going to have

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Speaker 11: to do a good job of defending.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of defending, when you go on the other side

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Speaker 7: of the ball, this is a team that really has

888
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Speaker 7: a knack for taking the ball away. I mean they

889
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Speaker 7: forced nineteen turnovers this year, six recovered fumbles and then

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Speaker 7: thirteen interceptions one return for a touchdown, Right, did it

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Speaker 7: against Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be.

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Speaker 7: More than just the ball bounce in their way, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean, what do they do to create some of

895
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Speaker 7: these turnover opportunities?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd say when they play their zone defense, they

897
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 11: have zone good zone awareness. I think Edmonds, you know,

898
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Speaker 11: was with him and Buffalo has got very good lengths

899
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Speaker 11: and instincts and ball skills and he has four of them.

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Speaker 11: He made a huge one against Cincinnati that you know,

901
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Speaker 11: he ran back at the end of the game for

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Speaker 11: a touchdown. Then they called it back you know, touchdown.

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Speaker 11: But again, whether it's tip balls, eyes on the quarterback,

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Speaker 11: you know, Stevenson does a good job of undercutting routes,

905
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Speaker 11: you know there when they play their man coverage, and

906
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Speaker 11: it's a it's a collective, you know, collective effort. And

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Speaker 11: you know, anytime you can have nineteen turnovers and not

908
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Speaker 11: turn the ball over on offense, it gives it a

909
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Speaker 11: pretty good recipe for wins.

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Speaker 7: So let's talk about the offense here with Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't I don't want to jinks anything here,

912
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Speaker 7: but he's made a lot of really good decisions, which

913
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Speaker 7: is one of the reasons why the turnover number is

914
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Speaker 7: really good. As far as a guy who's just getting

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Speaker 7: his career going, as you work with him and as

916
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Speaker 7: your staff works with him every week, what is some

917
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Speaker 7: of the growth that you're seeing in him each and

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Speaker 7: every week.

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Speaker 11: He just continues to get better. He's you know, he's

920
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Speaker 11: a very smart young man who can really absorb all

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Speaker 11: the coaching that you give him. You know, the quarterback

922
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Speaker 11: is a unique position and that there's a lot of

923
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Speaker 11: information that they have to process, and there's a lot

924
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Speaker 11: of information that you have to teach, and some guys

925
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Speaker 11: can handle all of it. Some guys can't. You know,

926
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Speaker 11: he's one of those guys that can look at it

927
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Speaker 11: on tape, see it in a classroom, get the coaching

928
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Speaker 11: points of a variety of things that happen on every play,

929
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Speaker 11: and be able to process it out there on the

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Speaker 11: practice field, and more importantly, process it out there on

931
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Speaker 11: the game field. So you know, he's a pleasure to

932
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Speaker 11: work with. But he's very good in that respect relative

933
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Speaker 11: to you can give him the information that you think

934
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Speaker 11: you need to give him, and his processing has been

935
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Speaker 11: very good. So some guys can see it on tape

936
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Speaker 11: and say they would do that in the game, can't

937
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Speaker 11: or don't see it. He hasn't been one of those guys.

938
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Speaker 11: My credit, the coaches credit him, but we need to

939
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Speaker 11: continue to build him and make sure we're doing things

940
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Speaker 11: that we think are good for him and for more

941
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Speaker 11: importantly for the offense.

942
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Speaker 6: Coach.

943
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Speaker 7: Finally, from a leadership standpoint, you know the way the

944
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 7: season kind of started, you know, Tracy's the starter running

945
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Speaker 7: back and then Scataboo gets a bigger, bigger role in

946
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Speaker 7: Devin Singletary's role maybe not as big, but after the

947
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 7: Scataboo injury, devn has kind of come in there and

948
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 7: really done a nice job as far as that leadership

949
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Speaker 7: and just making veteran like plays. And think about the

950
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Speaker 7: one that he made two weeks ago. Wasn't you know

951
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Speaker 7: it was a tough catch. It was a fifty to

952
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Speaker 7: fifty ball ashes string catch he made. But is that

953
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Speaker 7: one of the reasons is are we seeing the exact

954
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Speaker 7: reason why he's so important even though like he doesn't

955
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Speaker 7: have off the chart numbers.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Dev motors a pro and he's been that way

957
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Speaker 11: since he's been into the league, and he's got the

958
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Speaker 11: opportunity to learn from some good players that he's with

959
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Speaker 11: veteran players and that's his mindset. He's one of those

960
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Speaker 11: guys that doesn't focus on anything but what he can control.

961
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Speaker 11: And when you have players and staff members that can

962
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Speaker 11: do that and just focus on your job, focus on

963
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Speaker 11: the things you can control and do it with the

964
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Speaker 11: right mindset regardless of what's happening. Those are, you know,

965
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Speaker 11: the mentally tough players and the leaders that you know

966
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Speaker 11: you cover it on a football team, and he's certainly

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Speaker 11: one of them.

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Speaker 7: Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes today, good luck,

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Speaker 7: and we'll do it again next week.

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