WEBVTT - WEEKEND MORNING RUN: TOURISTS TAKING OVER EUROPE, R. KELLY MURDER-FOR-HIRE PLOT, TYLER PERRY ACCUSATIONS AND NEW ALCOHOL RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE ARE THE STORIES THAT KEPT AMY & T.J. TALKING THIS WEEK.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, folks, it's Saturday, June twenty first. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend edition of Morning Run. On the first full

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<v Speaker 2>day of summer.

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<v Speaker 1>In this little late it fuels late, especially given how

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<v Speaker 1>hot it is here in the Northeast. It is near

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<v Speaker 1>record setting temperatures. We went from you know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the week feeling like it was November in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like misty and in the fifties and sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems so late that we're just hitting summer. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the official first day of summer, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope the summer solstice.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you all enjoy this first full weekend of summer.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we're checking in with you on the weekend here.

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<v Speaker 2>There are plenty of stories during our Morning Run Monday

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<v Speaker 2>through Friday. They kind of keep us talking, debating, and

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<v Speaker 2>even arguing with each other afterwards. And this is where

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<v Speaker 2>we're going a little farther on some of those stories,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them in particular this week. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the most romantic cities in the world. If you ask

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that, they'll start pop up them off and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably get to this city within top five, top five

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody. But they want Jeff Bezos to keep his

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<v Speaker 2>romance to himself, at least some there in Venice. As

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<v Speaker 2>many of you heard, he's supposed to be getting married

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of this month in Venice, a three

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<v Speaker 2>day affair, big star stuttered affair. But in Venice they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of over it, and there have been protests robes

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<v Speaker 2>saying we don't want you here. Of course the wedding's

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<v Speaker 2>still going to go on, but still they're letting their

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<v Speaker 2>voices be heard that we don't want you here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they only have what fifty thousand actual residents of Venice,

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<v Speaker 1>and how many visitors come? Was it twenty million visitors

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<v Speaker 1>come each and every year. And so interestingly, as these

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<v Speaker 1>protests were going on and signage being put up in

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<v Speaker 1>advance of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's wedding at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month, they were not alone. There were

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<v Speaker 1>several cities and there have been several cities now throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Europe who have started to protest what they're calling over tourism.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we deal with that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>here in New York City, So we do deal with

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<v Speaker 1>to us and yet we're also folks who love to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Europe as well in the summer and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the annoying them.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We go over there, right, we get annoyed by the

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<v Speaker 1>Europeans here in New York, and so I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>at least as a New Yorker, I don't feel too

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<v Speaker 1>terrible returning the favor going back over there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fine line because, of course, so many of

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<v Speaker 1>these cities are sustained because of the tourist.

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<v Speaker 2>Industry, big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the restaurants, the hotels, the cute shops, none of

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<v Speaker 1>those could survive if people didn't come and visit these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful historic cities like Lisbon that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cities where you saw some protests in and just these

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous cities that people want to see and spend their

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<v Speaker 1>money in.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they're spending money, and then what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>other folks around the world, other investors say, oh, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money is going there, let's go take advantage,

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<v Speaker 2>and they end up what running out some of those

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<v Speaker 2>mom and pops and those smaller shops. That's been certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a big complaint in Venice, that folks where the local

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<v Speaker 2>artisans and folks like everyone in there is from somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. I did recent recently visit Venice, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in the last five years, and you did start

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<v Speaker 1>to see that transformation. And I can understand if you

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<v Speaker 1>were a Venetian, if you're Italian, you take great pride

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these shops that have now been turned

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<v Speaker 1>over to foreigners. But in other cities like Barcelona, they

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<v Speaker 1>were actually taking water guns out and spraying the tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how annoyed they are. They said they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>cool down the over tourisms.

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<v Speaker 2>Were they really doing They're just playing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're effing with folks. You know, what are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna get a ticket, You're not gonna it's

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<v Speaker 1>not assaulting someone. But honestly, it's annoying, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>took pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was an act of non aggressive aggression.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine though here in New York sometimes like today,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually fell and got pushed over when I was

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<v Speaker 1>running because there were so many people in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine sitting down and shoe people with

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<v Speaker 1>a water gun because you wanted them to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the video, or go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Little kids being playful or is it grown folks out

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<v Speaker 2>there were water cannons.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded I don't know about water cannons, but it

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<v Speaker 1>did sound like they were adults and they were making

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<v Speaker 1>a point. They wanted it to be known that they

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<v Speaker 1>were sick of tourists overtaking their cities and mass numbers

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<v Speaker 1>during the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the tour right, isn't it in some way?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be on whatever locale. Aren't they

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<v Speaker 2>making decision? What is it? You surely you want the visitors,

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<v Speaker 2>you want the money. At what point can you cut

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<v Speaker 2>that off?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So if you are yes, But if you are

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<v Speaker 1>just a resident, oh yeah, you have to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why you have these cute little piazzas and

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<v Speaker 1>squares and plazas is because these restaurants and businesses can

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<v Speaker 1>afford to live in high rent districts because tourists are

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and spending their money. I know it's annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>we know it's annoying. There's a balance, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>to at least acknowledge that that is part of the reason. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a way to create a a visa system

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<v Speaker 1>where you somehow weed out folks you know, from coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did see in Barcelona they were specifically saying

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<v Speaker 1>that their neighborhoods were changing, like you were pointing out saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want bubble tea shops in our neighborhoods. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what Spaniards have. We don't have bubble tea. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get that to an extent, and then we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even mention the Love. The Love actually had to close.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I can't think they had something when it

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<v Speaker 1>happened last and it was like the pandemic. And then

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<v Speaker 1>really the Louve does not close for any other reason

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<v Speaker 1>other than Tuesdays when it's their day of rest. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>is Tuesday. But they had to actually shut down on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday because the workers walked out because they were protesting

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<v Speaker 1>the over tourism and the crumbling infrastructure and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they were overworked. They said the situation was untenable

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly hot. It was hot all the tourists in

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<v Speaker 1>their thirty thousand people every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So to aout the Caribbean folks. If you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>vacation and give them a breakover in Europe. I hear

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<v Speaker 2>Jamaica's lovely all year long. The other story that really

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<v Speaker 2>got Robes talking. We couldn't believe it. There was one

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<v Speaker 2>day we got the headlines, it was one thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we got the follow up to it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just, oh boy, this is R. Kelly who is

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<v Speaker 2>making a plea to anybody who will listen that he

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<v Speaker 2>should be immediately released from prison for house arrest because

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<v Speaker 2>he says there's a conspiracy amongst the guards in the

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<v Speaker 2>prison system to have an inmate kill him. So a plot,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, to kill R. Kelly. He says he

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<v Speaker 2>should be let out now, Robes. What really got us

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<v Speaker 2>the next day is when the government responded to this

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<v Speaker 2>request from R. Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct So because R. Kelly is not just saying that

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<v Speaker 1>prison officials have enlisted the help of any inmate. They

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<v Speaker 1>say he's actually they've actually chosen the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>Aryan brotherhood to kill him. So we actually are saying

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<v Speaker 1>specifically who this inmate is. But the government response was

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a fanciful, deeply unserious claim that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a mockery of the harm suffered by victims of r Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>They called him a prolific child molester, and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>in a nineteen page response to these claims by r

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and his lawyers, you kind of put it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>They were kind of basically saying, lol, judge, as if.

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<v Speaker 2>They just stopped just short of if you can, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the legal I've never seen a legal briefing that literally

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<v Speaker 2>said lol.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, you all got to be kidding me, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is insane. It was almost they couldn't believe they

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<v Speaker 2>had to respond to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So then when just when you think that's unbelievable, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>r Kelly's lawyer's response to that response was this that

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<v Speaker 1>last Friday, r Kelly was given a life threatening overdose

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<v Speaker 1>of his medication by prison officials and said that they

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<v Speaker 1>moved him to solitary confinement. That scared r Kelly, so

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<v Speaker 1>we said he stopped eating his food. He said he

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<v Speaker 1>then got dizzy and lightheaded. Maybe that was because he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped eating, but no, he claims it was because he

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<v Speaker 1>was given an overdose of medication. Then his lawyers claim

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<v Speaker 1>that he was rushed to the hospital. Then his lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>claim that doctors told him yep, you've been overdosed. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they claim that his doctors told him you actually

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<v Speaker 1>have dangerous blood clots in you and you need surgery immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what did Kelly's lawyers claim next? That prison officials

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<v Speaker 1>plucked him from the hospital, wouldn't let him get the surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>and brought him back to solitary confinement.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a heck of a story. But all

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<v Speaker 2>those officially on record, this is not purportedly. This is

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that they have laid out in their own requests

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<v Speaker 2>and letters and legal briefings. But it was a bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>headline initially. And you know what, I my hands kind

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<v Speaker 2>of threw up in the air the first day we

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<v Speaker 2>saw this, you know, Okay, maybe we'll see then when

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<v Speaker 2>we got more of the details. And then the government's response,

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<v Speaker 2>I it sounds fanciful.

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<v Speaker 1>As they say, yes, it's gone from strange to stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll let you know just how strange it gets and

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<v Speaker 1>where this ends up. But if I were a betting woman, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say R. Kelly's probably staying exactly where he is,

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<v Speaker 1>serving the thirty year sentence that he received.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this next story here is really a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>one that we will probably continue to address here on

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<v Speaker 2>our podcast, and who knows, weeks, months, even years to come,

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<v Speaker 2>because it seems like we don't run out roads with

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<v Speaker 2>these types of stories about artists, entertainers, celebrities of some kind,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes some iconic names getting caught up in lawsuits

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes criminal proceedings having to do with sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 2>This week it was Tyler Perry who has been hit

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<v Speaker 2>with a two hundred and sixty million dollar sexual assault

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit by someone who worked on one of his shows.

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<v Speaker 2>The show's called The Oval that was on Beet. Derek

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<v Speaker 2>Dixon is the is the guy's name, but robes he

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<v Speaker 2>laid out kind of We'll address this first, saying, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>a pattern of retaliation if you didn't reciprocate his sexual advances.

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<v Speaker 2>And this fella has some pretty damning accusations, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just here we are another. This is as big

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<v Speaker 2>as you can get in black, oh in Hollywood, but

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<v Speaker 2>certainly as far as black entertainment and black entertainers go.

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<v Speaker 2>He is at the top in terms of being a black.

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment best friends watching Oprah Winfrey, Harry and Megan. He's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who obviously has movies that so many families love

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<v Speaker 1>to sit around and watch. So he's not just yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's beloved in the black community, of course, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would say in white communities, and I mean he is

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<v Speaker 1>a household name and people know when they are watching

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<v Speaker 1>his movie, you're going to have some wholesome family fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is pretty much what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was he has come out and strongly we

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<v Speaker 2>should have to say this. He's come out and strongly

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<v Speaker 2>deny this. I actually said, well, this was a scam

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<v Speaker 2>that was set up. Now that was fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 2>They said this guy might have been plotting this for

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<v Speaker 2>some time and trying to get close to him just

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<v Speaker 2>so he could have this moment right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dixon claims that he actually moved from Atlanta to

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<v Speaker 1>LA to get away from Perry because he was so

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about retaliation for refusing his advances. But he claims

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<v Speaker 1>he was sexually assaulted multiple times. He goes into great detail,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also claims to have submitted text messages screenshots

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<v Speaker 1>of actual communication where he claims that Perry had a

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<v Speaker 1>perverted desire for sexual gratification. So he gets very specific.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is really sad to hear. Unfortunate to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on the hills of the Smoky Robinson allegations that

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<v Speaker 1>have just come out recently, and of course we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the thick of the Diddy trial. It's just it's disheartening

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<v Speaker 1>to see that people who we've looked up to, people

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<v Speaker 1>whose music and art we've appreciated and loved, now have

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<v Speaker 1>all of these damning accusations surrounding them.

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<v Speaker 2>No of everybody mentioned, oh, everybody we've mentioned in the

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<v Speaker 2>past few minutes, R. Kelly is the only one who's

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<v Speaker 2>been found guilty of anything. Correct, we should start there.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course Diddy is in the middle of what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening right there. But you can't get any more influential

0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.520
<v Speaker 2>than that guy when it comes to hip hop in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what he did for hip hop and putting

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<v Speaker 2>it on the map around the world. That dude is

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the hip hop mountain. Smokey Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even need to say anything exactly about how

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<v Speaker 2>iconic he is. And Tyler Perry, now, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do with that art? How are you supposed to forget

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<v Speaker 2>the personal just for I'm not saying because some of

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<v Speaker 2>these folks we have been around and had relationships with

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<v Speaker 2>through media, So just putting aside, Okay, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>personal connection to that individual. What do you do with

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<v Speaker 2>the art of someone like r Kelly, who is in

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<v Speaker 2>prison for some of the accused of were all convicted

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the most horrific things. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>do with all that art? Are you supposed to separate it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have to separate it? Was it say about

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<v Speaker 2>you if you don't separate it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? And I would add Michael Jackson to that list

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And for me, I think it's an individual

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<v Speaker 1>personal choice. And I don't think you should judge somebody

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<v Speaker 1>for still appreciating music. I think you can appreciate the art.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can appreciate the talent and you can separate.

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<v Speaker 1>I say you, meaning me, I can do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to suggest to other people if you've experienced

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<v Speaker 1>something traumatic, I can understand why you might not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to separate it. I have not had something where

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<v Speaker 1>I feel triggered by any of that, so, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would give respect to anybody who felt that way, turned

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<v Speaker 1>it off, didn't want to hear anything. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can separate some of the brilliance and talent.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me sad when you hear the beautiful voice

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<v Speaker 1>and the unbelievable brilliance of some of these artists, and

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<v Speaker 1>to think what they were potentially capable of on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, but to also enjoy how wonderful their music

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<v Speaker 1>and art is. That it's something I can separate. How

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you nailed it when you said it should

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<v Speaker 2>just be a personal choice. We don't have to make

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<v Speaker 2>a decision or what's best. No, it really is a

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<v Speaker 2>personal choice. I I have all these artists. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you. R Kelly has been his music. R

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly and Diddy. That's the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That the stuff you listened to from junior high to

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<v Speaker 2>high school and starting call that's the stuff's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>with you the rest of your life. Those were the

0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 2>guys who got me through those particular years. So that

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<v Speaker 2>is you talk about the most listened to artists I

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<v Speaker 2>would have had in the nineties, those two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't and for you, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fair to ask that you somehow stop liking

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<v Speaker 1>those songs or loving those songs, or having those songs

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<v Speaker 1>take you back to that point in your life where

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<v Speaker 1>you had good times and care free times. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it. It does again. Ditty and Smoky and

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler here haven't been convicted of a thing, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of those things to where you're it's tarnished.

0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Something about the legacy scene to be tarnished. All of

0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.200
<v Speaker 2>this stuff can be completely made up and false, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Diddy goes home right and guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just gonna say, sadly to jump on

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying these days, just to be accused

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<v Speaker 1>of something is to be tarnished forever for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, in a lot of folks minds, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is unfortunate. But that is where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We will see what happens with Ditty. Yeah, we might

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<v Speaker 2>be close to a jury getting the case very soon

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<v Speaker 2>the next up here. This will keep us talking for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. We have this discussion somewhat daily. I

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<v Speaker 2>think if if you ask anybody of robes, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the recommendations for how much adults should consume alcohol every day?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of adults, certainly over the age

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty at this point, you've heard it so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can recite it for women. It's one drink or

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<v Speaker 2>less a day. For men, it's two drinks or less

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<v Speaker 2>per day, so that might be changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the thing is, I also have heard recently,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a big recent surge in this that no

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<v Speaker 1>amount of alcohol is safe, that no amount of alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>is okay because you are introducing toxins to your body.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not recommend that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, but they haven't, right, why not? There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of interested parties who might wish you to

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<v Speaker 1>consider otherwise. And look, you also, truthfully, how many times

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<v Speaker 1>have has a centurion been interviewed someone who makes it

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<v Speaker 1>past one hundred and they say, what's your key to

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<v Speaker 1>a long, happy life? I have a glass of wine

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<v Speaker 1>every day and or I have a shot of whiskey

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<v Speaker 1>every night. I mean, you hear that consistently. So part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is balance. I think you know you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, I work out every day, I eat, right,

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<v Speaker 1>If I really want to have a glass of wine

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<v Speaker 1>or two every day, is that actually going to kill me?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I've gone to this whole thing where what

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<v Speaker 1>do I lose three years? Four years, the last four

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<v Speaker 1>years of my life. I might be okay with that

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<v Speaker 1>if I can actually have a little bit more fun you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing any mind games?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're talking about the federal governments recommendations, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Does do other people have these same thought?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they do. Okay, Sorry, the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>might change the recommendation of one drink for a woman

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<v Speaker 2>and two drinks for a man. They might change it

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<v Speaker 2>to what's the recommendation Now, They're not going to give one.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to recommend a number of drinks that

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<v Speaker 2>might be safe. They're just going to say possibly to

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<v Speaker 2>do it in moderation. This is according to who does Reuters?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Reuters is reporting that this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come from the Department of Health and Human Services, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to take away those numbers, and yes, next

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<v Speaker 1>month say hey, we're not going to tell you men

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<v Speaker 1>how many drinks per day you should have and women

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<v Speaker 1>how many drinks per day you should have. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we have different genetic makeups, but I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think that's fair because think about it, how much you weigh,

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<v Speaker 1>how tall you are, what your genes are, what types

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<v Speaker 1>of ability you may personally have, it you inherited to

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<v Speaker 1>metabolize alcohol? Everyone is different. How much food did you

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<v Speaker 1>eat you know, if you had one drink and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't eat all day, or you had two drinks and

0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of meals, you have a different

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol you know, percentage in.

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<v Speaker 2>Your b So how do you recommend what should they recommend?

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<v Speaker 2>So they're recommending just drinking moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I appreciate. They're treating us like adults,

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<v Speaker 1>drinking moderation, and if you don't, your consequences will be

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<v Speaker 1>your guide. Well, your wait, reality will be your consequences.

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.359
<v Speaker 2>But they give us all kinds of recommendations on how

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<v Speaker 2>many calories we should have, how much vitamin this, this, this,

0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:23.639
<v Speaker 2>and this we should have, how long you should be

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<v Speaker 2>in the sun, how much exposure you should have to this,

0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:27.359
<v Speaker 2>how many meals you used to have a day, how

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<v Speaker 2>much water you should drink a day. You're telling me,

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<v Speaker 2>you give me all these recommendations on my health, and

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<v Speaker 2>this one about a toxin you're just gonna say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out, your a big boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some benefits to some alcohols. There are

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<v Speaker 1>lower rates of this cancer. There are higher rates of

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<v Speaker 1>X cancer. I mean there are, and they're always consistently changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because how do you get a focus group where you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually say all other things are equal. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>hard part when you're dealing with humans. Science isn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>exact when it comes to that kind of thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're studying groups.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine, but they can give us all those

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<v Speaker 2>other recommendations. In general. There are some people who should

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<v Speaker 2>be on a two thousand Calleri diet, others should be

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<v Speaker 2>on a thirty five hundred for different reasons. All kinds

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff you can. So they're giving us a baseline,

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<v Speaker 2>give me the baseline.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're just saying, you guys, figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want that good Like doctors. Could you imagine

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:26.080
<v Speaker 2>going through your doctor with whatever problem your foot's broken? Woof,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the best you can walk in moderation rows.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy. I would like a recommendation. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to know that I'm hitting some kind of target

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that gives me a better chance. Now zero, I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do. But if you're telling me, give

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<v Speaker 2>me the warning that this stuff is so bad, we

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think you should have a sip of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>will listen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you. But you know what is interesting, This

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time they have adjusted these recommendations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty five years. These recommendations came out in nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably why you and I are so

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with them, because it's been pounded into us. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of look at it like this. Whatever. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I think I want another glass, I always say, when

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up in the morning, I never regretted saying no,

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<v Speaker 1>I never regretted taking that bottle of water. Instead, my

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 1>regret always comes from when I wake up and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a glass of wine by my nightstand, I'm like, why

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>did I need to do that? So these are the

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<v Speaker 1>moments where I can take I can subtract one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do I get that right? You're you're upset that

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<v Speaker 2>you wasted the glass of wine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's that drink and thats okay.

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 2>It's both sometimes the glass empty and sometimes when I

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<v Speaker 2>wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>When I see a glass of water, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>made a good choice. Okay there, Gamio.

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<v Speaker 2>We always appreciate you running with us, even on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>So make some good choices today. What you decide to drink,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you decided to drink anything, just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>In moderation exactly everything in moderation. Everyone, thanks for being

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<v Speaker 1>with us, have a wonderful Saturday.