1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Hey there, folks, it's Saturday, June twenty first. Welcome to 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: this weekend edition of Morning Run. On the first full 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: day of summer. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: In this little late it fuels late, especially given how 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: hot it is here in the Northeast. It is near 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: record setting temperatures. We went from you know, at the 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the week feeling like it was November in Ireland. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: It was like misty and in the fifties and sixties. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: It seems so late that we're just hitting summer. But yeah, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: it's the official first day of summer, so. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Hope the summer solstice. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: All right, you all enjoy this first full weekend of summer. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, we're checking in with you on the weekend here. 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: There are plenty of stories during our Morning Run Monday 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: through Friday. They kind of keep us talking, debating, and 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: even arguing with each other afterwards. And this is where 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: we're going a little farther on some of those stories, 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: and one of them in particular this week. One of 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: the most romantic cities in the world. If you ask 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: anybody that, they'll start pop up them off and they'll 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: probably get to this city within top five, top five 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: of everybody. But they want Jeff Bezos to keep his 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: romance to himself, at least some there in Venice. As 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: many of you heard, he's supposed to be getting married 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: at the end of this month in Venice, a three 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: day affair, big star stuttered affair. But in Venice they're 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: kind of over it, and there have been protests robes 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: saying we don't want you here. Of course the wedding's 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: still going to go on, but still they're letting their 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: voices be heard that we don't want you here. 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they only have what fifty thousand actual residents of Venice, 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: and how many visitors come? Was it twenty million visitors 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: come each and every year. And so interestingly, as these 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: protests were going on and signage being put up in 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: advance of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's wedding at the 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: end of this month, they were not alone. There were 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: several cities and there have been several cities now throughout 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Europe who have started to protest what they're calling over tourism. 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: And you know, we deal with that a little bit 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: here in New York City, So we do deal with 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to us and yet we're also folks who love to 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: go to Europe as well in the summer and enjoy 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: the annoying them. 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: So that's what we do. 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: We go over there, right, we get annoyed by the 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Europeans here in New York, and so I feel like, 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: at least as a New Yorker, I don't feel too 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: terrible returning the favor going back over there. I don't know. 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: It's a fine line because, of course, so many of 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: these cities are sustained because of the tourist. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Industry, big deal. 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Yes, the restaurants, the hotels, the cute shops, none of 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: those could survive if people didn't come and visit these 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: beautiful historic cities like Lisbon that was one of the 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: cities where you saw some protests in and just these 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: gorgeous cities that people want to see and spend their 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: money in. 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're spending money, and then what happens is 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: other folks around the world, other investors say, oh, a 61 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: lot of money is going there, let's go take advantage, 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: and they end up what running out some of those 63 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: mom and pops and those smaller shops. That's been certainly 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: a big complaint in Venice, that folks where the local 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: artisans and folks like everyone in there is from somewhere else. 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: That is true. I did recent recently visit Venice, at 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: least in the last five years, and you did start 68 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: to see that transformation. And I can understand if you 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: were a Venetian, if you're Italian, you take great pride 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: in some of these shops that have now been turned 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: over to foreigners. But in other cities like Barcelona, they 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: were actually taking water guns out and spraying the tourists. 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: That's how annoyed they are. They said they wanted to 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: cool down the over tourisms. 75 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: Were they really doing They're just playing. 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: They're effing with folks. You know, what are you gonna do. 77 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a ticket, You're not gonna it's 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: not assaulting someone. But honestly, it's annoying, and so they 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: took pleasure. 80 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: So it was an act of non aggressive aggression. 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Can you imagine though here in New York sometimes like today, 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I actually fell and got pushed over when I was 83 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: running because there were so many people in the streets. 84 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: But can you imagine sitting down and shoe people with 85 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: a water gun because you wanted them to go home. 86 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the video, or go away. 87 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Little kids being playful or is it grown folks out 88 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: there were water cannons. 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: It sounded I don't know about water cannons, but it 90 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: did sound like they were adults and they were making 91 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: a point. They wanted it to be known that they 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: were sick of tourists overtaking their cities and mass numbers 93 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: during the summer. 94 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: It's not the tour right, isn't it in some way? 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be on whatever locale. Aren't they 96 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: making decision? What is it? You surely you want the visitors, 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: you want the money. At what point can you cut 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: that off? 99 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? So if you are yes, But if you are 100 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: just a resident, oh yeah, you have to acknowledge that 101 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: the reason why you have these cute little piazzas and 102 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: squares and plazas is because these restaurants and businesses can 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: afford to live in high rent districts because tourists are 104 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: coming in and spending their money. I know it's annoying, 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: we know it's annoying. There's a balance, but you have 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: to at least acknowledge that that is part of the reason. Now, 107 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe there's a way to create a a visa system 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: where you somehow weed out folks you know, from coming in. 109 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: But I did see in Barcelona they were specifically saying 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: that their neighborhoods were changing, like you were pointing out saying, 111 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: we don't want bubble tea shops in our neighborhoods. This 112 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: isn't what Spaniards have. We don't have bubble tea. So 113 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: I get that to an extent, and then we didn't 114 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: even mention the Love. The Love actually had to close. 115 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: This is I can't think they had something when it 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: happened last and it was like the pandemic. And then 117 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: really the Louve does not close for any other reason 118 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: other than Tuesdays when it's their day of rest. Apparently 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: is Tuesday. But they had to actually shut down on 120 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Monday because the workers walked out because they were protesting 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the over tourism and the crumbling infrastructure and the fact 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: that they were overworked. They said the situation was untenable 123 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: and frankly hot. It was hot all the tourists in 124 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: their thirty thousand people every day. 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: So to aout the Caribbean folks. If you're thinking about 126 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: vacation and give them a breakover in Europe. I hear 127 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Jamaica's lovely all year long. The other story that really 128 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: got Robes talking. We couldn't believe it. There was one 129 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: day we got the headlines, it was one thing, and 130 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: then we got the follow up to it, and it 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: was just, oh boy, this is R. Kelly who is 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: making a plea to anybody who will listen that he 133 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: should be immediately released from prison for house arrest because 134 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: he says there's a conspiracy amongst the guards in the 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: prison system to have an inmate kill him. So a plot, 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: if you will, to kill R. Kelly. He says he 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: should be let out now, Robes. What really got us 138 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: the next day is when the government responded to this 139 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: request from R. Kelly. 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Correct So because R. Kelly is not just saying that 141 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: prison officials have enlisted the help of any inmate. They 142 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: say he's actually they've actually chosen the leader of the 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Aryan brotherhood to kill him. So we actually are saying 144 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: specifically who this inmate is. But the government response was 145 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that this is a fanciful, deeply unserious claim that makes 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: a mockery of the harm suffered by victims of r Kelly. 147 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: They called him a prolific child molester, and they basically 148 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: in a nineteen page response to these claims by r 149 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Kelly and his lawyers, you kind of put it this way. 150 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: They were kind of basically saying, lol, judge, as if. 151 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: They just stopped just short of if you can, what's 152 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: the legal I've never seen a legal briefing that literally 153 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: said lol. 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. 155 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: They said, you all got to be kidding me, like 156 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: this is insane. It was almost they couldn't believe they 157 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: had to respond to it. 158 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: So then when just when you think that's unbelievable, yes, 159 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: r Kelly's lawyer's response to that response was this that 160 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: last Friday, r Kelly was given a life threatening overdose 161 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: of his medication by prison officials and said that they 162 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: moved him to solitary confinement. That scared r Kelly, so 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: we said he stopped eating his food. He said he 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: then got dizzy and lightheaded. Maybe that was because he 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: stopped eating, but no, he claims it was because he 166 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: was given an overdose of medication. Then his lawyers claim 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: that he was rushed to the hospital. Then his lawyers 168 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: claim that doctors told him yep, you've been overdosed. And 169 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: then they claim that his doctors told him you actually 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: have dangerous blood clots in you and you need surgery immediately. 171 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Then what did Kelly's lawyers claim next? That prison officials 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: plucked him from the hospital, wouldn't let him get the surgery, 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: and brought him back to solitary confinement. 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a heck of a story. But all 175 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: those officially on record, this is not purportedly. This is 176 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: stuff that they have laid out in their own requests 177 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: and letters and legal briefings. But it was a bizarre 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: headline initially. And you know what, I my hands kind 179 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: of threw up in the air the first day we 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: saw this, you know, Okay, maybe we'll see then when 181 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: we got more of the details. And then the government's response, 182 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: I it sounds fanciful. 183 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: As they say, yes, it's gone from strange to stranger. 184 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: We'll let you know just how strange it gets and 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: where this ends up. But if I were a betting woman, yeah, 186 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I would say R. Kelly's probably staying exactly where he is, 187 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: serving the thirty year sentence that he received. 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: All right, this next story here is really a difficult 189 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: one that we will probably continue to address here on 190 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: our podcast, and who knows, weeks, months, even years to come, 191 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: because it seems like we don't run out roads with 192 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: these types of stories about artists, entertainers, celebrities of some kind, 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: and sometimes some iconic names getting caught up in lawsuits 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: and sometimes criminal proceedings having to do with sexual assault. 195 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: This week it was Tyler Perry who has been hit 196 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: with a two hundred and sixty million dollar sexual assault 197 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: lawsuit by someone who worked on one of his shows. 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: The show's called The Oval that was on Beet. Derek 199 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: Dixon is the is the guy's name, but robes he 200 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: laid out kind of We'll address this first, saying, essentially 201 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: a pattern of retaliation if you didn't reciprocate his sexual advances. 202 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: And this fella has some pretty damning accusations, but it 203 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: was just here we are another. This is as big 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: as you can get in black, oh in Hollywood, but 205 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: certainly as far as black entertainment and black entertainers go. 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: He is at the top in terms of being a black. 207 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Entertainment best friends watching Oprah Winfrey, Harry and Megan. He's 208 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: somebody who obviously has movies that so many families love 209 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: to sit around and watch. So he's not just yes, 210 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: he's beloved in the black community, of course, but I 211 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: would say in white communities, and I mean he is 212 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: a household name and people know when they are watching 213 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: his movie, you're going to have some wholesome family fun. 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that is pretty much what it is. 215 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: But he was he has come out and strongly we 216 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 2: should have to say this. He's come out and strongly 217 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: deny this. I actually said, well, this was a scam 218 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: that was set up. Now that was fascinating to me. 219 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: They said this guy might have been plotting this for 220 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: some time and trying to get close to him just 221 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: so he could have this moment right now. 222 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: And Dixon claims that he actually moved from Atlanta to 223 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: LA to get away from Perry because he was so 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: concerned about retaliation for refusing his advances. But he claims 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: he was sexually assaulted multiple times. He goes into great detail, 226 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: and he also claims to have submitted text messages screenshots 227 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: of actual communication where he claims that Perry had a 228 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: perverted desire for sexual gratification. So he gets very specific. 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: So this is really sad to hear. Unfortunate to hear, 230 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: especially on the hills of the Smoky Robinson allegations that 231 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: have just come out recently, and of course we're in 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: the thick of the Diddy trial. It's just it's disheartening 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: to see that people who we've looked up to, people 234 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: whose music and art we've appreciated and loved, now have 235 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: all of these damning accusations surrounding them. 236 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: No of everybody mentioned, oh, everybody we've mentioned in the 237 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: past few minutes, R. Kelly is the only one who's 238 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: been found guilty of anything. Correct, we should start there. 239 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: So of course Diddy is in the middle of what's 240 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: happening right there. But you can't get any more influential 241 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: than that guy when it comes to hip hop in 242 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: terms of what he did for hip hop and putting 243 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: it on the map around the world. That dude is 244 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: at the top of the hip hop mountain. Smokey Robinson, 245 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't even need to say anything exactly about how 246 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: iconic he is. And Tyler Perry, now, what do you 247 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: do with that art? How are you supposed to forget 248 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: the personal just for I'm not saying because some of 249 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: these folks we have been around and had relationships with 250 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: through media, So just putting aside, Okay, I have a 251 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: personal connection to that individual. What do you do with 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: the art of someone like r Kelly, who is in 253 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: prison for some of the accused of were all convicted 254 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: of some of the most horrific things. What do you 255 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: do with all that art? Are you supposed to separate it? 256 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: Do you have to separate it? Was it say about 257 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: you if you don't separate it? 258 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Right? And I would add Michael Jackson to that list 259 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: as well. And for me, I think it's an individual 260 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: personal choice. And I don't think you should judge somebody 261 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: for still appreciating music. I think you can appreciate the art. 262 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: I think you can appreciate the talent and you can separate. 263 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: I say you, meaning me, I can do that. I 264 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: don't want to suggest to other people if you've experienced 265 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: something traumatic, I can understand why you might not be 266 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: able to separate it. I have not had something where 267 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: I feel triggered by any of that, so, but I 268 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: would give respect to anybody who felt that way, turned 269 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: it off, didn't want to hear anything. But I feel 270 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: like I can separate some of the brilliance and talent. 271 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: It makes me sad when you hear the beautiful voice 272 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: and the unbelievable brilliance of some of these artists, and 273 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: to think what they were potentially capable of on the 274 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: other side, but to also enjoy how wonderful their music 275 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: and art is. That it's something I can separate. How 276 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: about you. 277 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: I think you nailed it when you said it should 278 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: just be a personal choice. We don't have to make 279 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: a decision or what's best. No, it really is a 280 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: personal choice. I I have all these artists. I have 281 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: to tell you. R Kelly has been his music. R 282 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: Kelly and Diddy. That's the nineties. 283 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 284 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: That the stuff you listened to from junior high to 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: high school and starting call that's the stuff's gonna be 286 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: with you the rest of your life. Those were the 287 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: guys who got me through those particular years. So that 288 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: is you talk about the most listened to artists I 289 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: would have had in the nineties, those two guys. 290 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: And you can't and for you, I don't. I don't 291 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: think it's fair to ask that you somehow stop liking 292 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: those songs or loving those songs, or having those songs 293 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: take you back to that point in your life where 294 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you had good times and care free times. I think 295 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: that's okay, I do. 296 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: It's just it. It does again. Ditty and Smoky and 297 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Tyler here haven't been convicted of a thing, but it's 298 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: just one of those things to where you're it's tarnished. 299 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: Something about the legacy scene to be tarnished. All of 300 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: this stuff can be completely made up and false, and 301 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: maybe Diddy goes home right and guilty. 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say, sadly to jump on 303 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: what you were saying these days, just to be accused 304 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: of something is to be tarnished forever for a lot 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: of people, in a lot of folks minds, and that 306 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: is unfortunate. But that is where we are. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: We will see what happens with Ditty. Yeah, we might 308 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: be close to a jury getting the case very soon 309 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: the next up here. This will keep us talking for 310 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: a long time. We have this discussion somewhat daily. I 311 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: think if if you ask anybody of robes, what are 312 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: the recommendations for how much adults should consume alcohol every day? 313 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of adults, certainly over the age 314 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: of thirty at this point, you've heard it so much. Yeah, 315 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: you can recite it for women. It's one drink or 316 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: less a day. For men, it's two drinks or less 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: per day, so that might be changing. 318 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is, I also have heard recently, 319 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: there's been a big recent surge in this that no 320 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: amount of alcohol is safe, that no amount of alcohol 321 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: is okay because you are introducing toxins to your body. 322 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Why not recommend that? 323 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Right? Well, but they haven't, right, why not? There are 324 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: a lot of interested parties who might wish you to 325 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: consider otherwise. And look, you also, truthfully, how many times 326 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: have has a centurion been interviewed someone who makes it 327 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: past one hundred and they say, what's your key to 328 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: a long, happy life? I have a glass of wine 329 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: every day and or I have a shot of whiskey 330 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: every night. I mean, you hear that consistently. So part 331 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: of it is balance. I think you know you want 332 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: to say, well, I work out every day, I eat, right, 333 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: If I really want to have a glass of wine 334 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: or two every day, is that actually going to kill me? 335 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: And then I've gone to this whole thing where what 336 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: do I lose three years? Four years, the last four 337 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: years of my life. I might be okay with that 338 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: if I can actually have a little bit more fun you're. 339 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: Playing any mind games? 340 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: That's right? 341 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about the federal governments recommendations, right, yes. 342 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Does do other people have these same thought? 343 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they do. Okay, Sorry, the federal government 344 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: might change the recommendation of one drink for a woman 345 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: and two drinks for a man. They might change it 346 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: to what's the recommendation Now, They're not going to give one. 347 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: They're not going to recommend a number of drinks that 348 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: might be safe. They're just going to say possibly to 349 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: do it in moderation. This is according to who does Reuters? 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I think Reuters is reporting that this is going to 351 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: come from the Department of Health and Human Services, that 352 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: they're going to take away those numbers, and yes, next 353 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: month say hey, we're not going to tell you men 354 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: how many drinks per day you should have and women 355 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: how many drinks per day you should have. And look, 356 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I know we have different genetic makeups, but I actually 357 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: think that's fair because think about it, how much you weigh, 358 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: how tall you are, what your genes are, what types 359 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: of ability you may personally have, it you inherited to 360 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: metabolize alcohol? Everyone is different. How much food did you 361 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: eat you know, if you had one drink and you 362 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: didn't eat all day, or you had two drinks and 363 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: you had a lot of meals, you have a different 364 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: alcohol you know, percentage in. 365 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: Your b So how do you recommend what should they recommend? 366 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: So they're recommending just drinking moderation. 367 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: You know what I appreciate. They're treating us like adults, 368 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: drinking moderation, and if you don't, your consequences will be 369 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: your guide. Well, your wait, reality will be your consequences. 370 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: But they give us all kinds of recommendations on how 371 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: many calories we should have, how much vitamin this, this, this, 372 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: and this we should have, how long you should be 373 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: in the sun, how much exposure you should have to this, 374 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: how many meals you used to have a day, how 375 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: much water you should drink a day. You're telling me, 376 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 2: you give me all these recommendations on my health, and 377 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: this one about a toxin you're just gonna say, hey, 378 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: figure it out, your a big boy. 379 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: But there are some benefits to some alcohols. There are 380 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: lower rates of this cancer. There are higher rates of 381 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: X cancer. I mean there are, and they're always consistently changing. 382 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: Because how do you get a focus group where you 383 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: can actually say all other things are equal. That's the 384 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: hard part when you're dealing with humans. Science isn't actually 385 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: exact when it comes to that kind of thing. When 386 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: you're studying groups. 387 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but they can give us all those 388 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: other recommendations. In general. There are some people who should 389 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: be on a two thousand Calleri diet, others should be 390 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: on a thirty five hundred for different reasons. All kinds 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: of stuff you can. So they're giving us a baseline, 392 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: give me the baseline. 393 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: I think they're just saying, you guys, figure it out. 394 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't want that good Like doctors. Could you imagine 395 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: going through your doctor with whatever problem your foot's broken? Woof, 396 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: it looks tough. 397 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Do the best you can walk in moderation rows. 398 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: This is crazy. I would like a recommendation. I would 399 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: like to know that I'm hitting some kind of target 400 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: that gives me a better chance. Now zero, I'm probably 401 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: not going to do. But if you're telling me, give 402 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: me the warning that this stuff is so bad, we 403 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: don't think you should have a sip of it. I 404 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: will listen to that. 405 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: I believe you. But you know what is interesting, This 406 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: is the first time they have adjusted these recommendations. Yeah, 407 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: in thirty five years. These recommendations came out in nineteen ninety. 408 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: I think that's probably why you and I are so 409 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: familiar with them, because it's been pounded into us. But look, 410 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: I kind of look at it like this. Whatever. Whenever 411 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: I think I want another glass, I always say, when 412 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning, I never regretted saying no, 413 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: I never regretted taking that bottle of water. Instead, my 414 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: regret always comes from when I wake up and there's 415 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: a glass of wine by my nightstand, I'm like, why 416 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: did I need to do that? So these are the 417 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: moments where I can take I can subtract one. 418 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, do I get that right? You're you're upset that 419 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: you wasted the glass of wine. 420 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: Well, there's that drink and thats okay. 421 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: It's both sometimes the glass empty and sometimes when I 422 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: wake up. 423 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: When I see a glass of water, I'm like, I 424 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: made a good choice. Okay there, Gamio. 425 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: We always appreciate you running with us, even on a Saturday. 426 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: So make some good choices today. What you decide to drink, 427 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: and if you decided to drink anything, just do it. 428 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: In moderation exactly everything in moderation. Everyone, thanks for being 429 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: with us, have a wonderful Saturday.