1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Let's get to Eva Autos, who is the chief investment 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: strategist at the share She's on the line from Boston. Eva, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. A lot of positivity in 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: the equity trade today. It seemed a little tentative kind 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: of midday. We did have the Goldman results kind of 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: kicking us off on a little bit of this positivity, 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: but boy, we got a strong tale went after the bell, Netflix, 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: United Airlines, JB Hond, Adobe, all with positive commentary. How 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: do you read this market right now? Well, companies have 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: been setting um thirdly modest expectations for this quarter and 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: for the next year, so it's not that hard to 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: beat them. We expect to see um the sevent beat 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: rade that we have as of now. We expect that 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: rate to to be maintained throughout this earning cycle, and 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: we we we do expect that, you know, like companies 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: will be conservative when it comes to their expectations for 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: the next year. So um, you know, it's a volatile 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: market and it makes that managers and companies are conservative 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: with their expectations. What did they generally saying about the future, 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: which is leaving behind the era of free money and 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the pain may be inflicted by higher interest rates. So 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I think more people are now concerned because the last 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: CPI UM reading was elevated. So what we know is 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: that there will be upward pressures on the next CPI 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: reading due to energy prices. Open cut production by two 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: million barrels a day. That immediately, so a spike in 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: energy prices about five to eight percent, So that will 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: have an upward pressure on the next CPI. Housing is 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: also a lagging indicator. It usually lacks by about twelve months. 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: That will affect the next CPI reading. And so we are, 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, concerned that the next CPI will be elevated 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: and probably the one after that too. I think, you know, 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: more and more investors are focusing on that now. But 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: that being said, before the open event, we saw the 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: market appreciates significantly as we thought that inflation is getting 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: under control. Yeah, we have Neil Cash current tonight saying 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the FED cannot pause at a FED funds rate of 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: four and a half percent if inflation is still rising. 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I was struck by the Bank of America strategist looking 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: at their fund manager survey and concluding that the FED 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: is going to pivot as soon as the first half 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: of next year, b of a looking at an equity 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: rally in three do you think that's misguided? Very quickly, 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: I don't think it's misguided. I think we might see 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: Christmas rally from not another rally in As they said, 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I think core inflation has not been this this guys 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: is two. But doing too little to fight inflation is 48 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: worse than too much, and the FED is going to 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: probably maintain their hotness rhetoric if we were talking about 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: what Corpus is likely to be saying, and what how 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: they're dealing with higher interest rates and inflation and before 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: the break, but looking ahead, what are they really talking 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: about when it comes to jobs. I mean, we've seen 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: that perhaps there's a tendency to hold onto staff right 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: now for fear of them having a being difficult to replace, 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: and that's something of course they learned from the pandemic 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: when they did further a lot of people, yes, definitely. 58 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: But here's our contrarian view. Many people think that unemployment 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: will significantly increase from where it's now due to the 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: contraction of GDP in the US. However, we have a 61 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: different view here. We think that unemployment might increase, but 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: slightly and that's because of the eighty millillion baby boomers 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: we have, where four point two million a year come 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: to retirement age, and that will help keep unemployment level slow. 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: We saw that with the last unemployment reading. In fact, 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: unemployment did not increase. It dropped from three point seven 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: percent to three point five percent. And it's interesting that 68 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: many people think you cannot have a con traction in 69 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: GDP growth and low levels of unemployment. But if you 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: look back after World War Two, we had a similar 71 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: scenario to what we have now. We had inflation running 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,559 Speaker 1: about eight percent UM, a contraction in GDP and unemployment 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: at three point six percent. Significant and similarities here between 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: those two periods that we should not disregard. So let's 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: pivot if we can talk a little bit about opportunities 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: that you're seeing offshore and particularly in Asia. It's kind 77 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: of striking. Yesterday we were expecting publication of a lot 78 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: of the key data in China. That didn't happen. It's 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: been delayed, obviously. The Party Congress is happening this week. 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: It was kicked off with that speech from the Chinese president. 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: She did you hear anything in that speech that would 82 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: cause you to put money to work in UH in 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: relation to China, I know, in fact the opposite. I 84 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've been burish on China for the last 85 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: year and continue to be. I think China is entering 86 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: an unfamiliar state of flat economic growth. It has actually 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: joined the global economy in this global economic malaise, and 88 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the sluggish real estate market, which historically fueled much of 89 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: the economic growth, is now struggling, and I would say 90 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: it's on the version of severe contraction. At the same time, 91 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: you also have reduced product output due to the zero 92 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: COVID policy and also the slow global demands. So I 93 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: see this pattern continuing in three and you know it 94 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: will probably return to normal growth in the subsequent years. 95 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: This is really also as we got Britain under the 96 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: European Union facing a slowdown as well, contriving together to 97 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: reduce global growth altogether, which then has of course knock 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: on effects. Does it not? Definitely? And there is um 99 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: to your point. It's a it's a global economic malaise. 100 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: There's a two percent contraction in GDP in Europe that's 101 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: probably considered a recession as of now. That's spilling over 102 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: to the US partially, and the use we have two 103 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: consecutive quarters of you know, the client of GDP, which 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: technically is a recession, although that determination stands with the 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: n B E R. But it's a global it's a 106 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: domino effect. One market affects the other when you have globalization, 107 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: and so that that also does not help China in 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: particular since most of the a lot of the economic 109 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: growth was because of the high demand from Europe and 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the U S which is coming down now. So generally speaking, 111 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: then even do you favor fixed income over equities in 112 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: the current environment, definitely no, I think bonds will do 113 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: bad when inter streets rise. But that being said, I 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: do favor short term treasury builds such as the three 115 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: months and the six months. Most of the action is 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: happening between the three months and the six months. Then 117 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: you see the yield card flattened and actually see invert 118 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: earth between the when when the ten years actually under 119 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: the two years which you mentioned before too, So that 120 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: shows that most of the action isn't the short term, 121 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: and then we'll probably have either a recession or um 122 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, inflation will come down. If I thank you 123 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. If A CEO and chief 124 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: investor schalities that e shares,