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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,
Speaker 1: eleven thirty and I can't hear myself in my headphones,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going on. You can't HI.
Speaker 1: There we go, eleven thirty Thursday, Central Time. It is
Speaker 1: seventy five degrees outside. It feels like seventy five with
Speaker 1: a high of eighty I low of fifty seven. We
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Speaker 1: at the Star and Frisco, But that is the war
Speaker 1: room at Ford Center in the Star and Frisco. So
Speaker 1: there you go. That's the non action war room. And
Speaker 1: I've got I've got gifts today, fellas. I have gifts
Speaker 1: to commemorate this this draft that we have. I have
Speaker 1: draft caps and Chris Beam, I need you to come
Speaker 1: in here real quick because you know, everyone that participates
Speaker 1: in this show in person is getting a gift today.
Speaker 1: And because Jesse Jesse Holly failed to participate, he does
Speaker 1: not get to part Insipatient Awards. Yeah, Chris, that's yours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get Jesse's hat. Look there's Chrispan and Jesse's hat.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Wow wow, I'm wow, wow wow.
Speaker 1: How time did you get? I got a large media
Speaker 1: you might need You might need this one, Nate, because
Speaker 1: this is this is a double X. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: fit that here. You better take that on the go.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse. Sorry, sorry for your luck if you'd
Speaker 1: been here. Wow where are you at today? Jesse? Why
Speaker 1: are you studio? Just just just like my dad, man,
Speaker 1: you just like this is the trauma you're you're you're
Speaker 1: you're opening these wounds again, the trauma of my father,
Speaker 1: of you leaving me out again. You know this is
Speaker 1: I go to therapy and I try to talk through
Speaker 1: these things and I try to get the necessary help
Speaker 1: that I need. And one of the things my therapist
Speaker 1: said said, Jesse, you need to continue to give more,
Speaker 1: and you need to surround yourself with people who are
Speaker 1: giving people. And then I'm thinking, like, wow, hanging with
Speaker 1: the boys, what better way to surround myself with some
Speaker 1: great giving people like Kurt Daniels, like Nate Newton. So
Speaker 1: the trauma again, here's the trauma again, happening all over again.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. And then Kurt, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I Kurt, Chris Bean, you don't. You don't help it.
Speaker 1: You should be like, nah, you know, Jesse's my guy,
Speaker 1: that's my dude. I love him, you know. But you
Speaker 1: came in. He was like what what? Thanks man forget
Speaker 1: Jess god lea, just just just what. I think. I
Speaker 1: got a good supporting group around me. Hey, I'm I'm giving.
Speaker 1: I gave everybody a hat except you because you're not here.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you? Jesse? I am in
Speaker 1: the Casa um well because I have to quarantine. No,
Speaker 1: I do not have the vir I've tested. I've tested
Speaker 1: five days in a row, and they've all been negative.
Speaker 1: But because I told you guys last week, I was
Speaker 1: going to a tract meet for our state track meet,
Speaker 1: and one of the parents of talking about being a giver, right,
Speaker 1: we had some parents come down to support us. So
Speaker 1: I said, what's the nice thing to do? So I
Speaker 1: treated everyone to a nice kind of team family dinner
Speaker 1: just to kind of say thank you guys for coming
Speaker 1: out and supporting and taking time off and driving down
Speaker 1: here to wake up right. And so we're at the
Speaker 1: team dinner and later to find out one of the
Speaker 1: parents at our team dinner tested positive for covid um
Speaker 1: and so by rule I had because I was in
Speaker 1: direct contact, it was only for like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I was there, like really like twenty five minutes, and
Speaker 1: I was there, but I was in direct contact, and
Speaker 1: so I had to quarantine. Um, I feel fine, my
Speaker 1: allergies are killing me. Because I had the windows open.
Speaker 1: I didn't need your story, man, I just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: need my life story, because you could just said I'm
Speaker 1: at home. I'm there. I'm at home, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: be there because the people, the people, because if I
Speaker 1: said I'm at home, You'll be like, well, why, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you at home. You're right, you're right. What's happening?
Speaker 1: You're right? Yeah, Well, Jesse, glad that you feel good,
Speaker 1: Glad that you have not tested positive for covid um yet.
Speaker 1: You got what one more day before you for you free? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm free tomorrow baby, Okay, well tomorrow I might be
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Speaker 1: a valid excuse. Well, I'll work on it. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: They told me that they're not going to have a
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Speaker 1: you comes in the snapback flat bill version and the
Speaker 1: the flex fit version that we all have here. So
Speaker 1: speaking of the draft, this is the first time we've
Speaker 1: been together since the draft. Kurt, Yeah, give me your
Speaker 1: overall grade and then we'll and then we'll get into
Speaker 1: the specifics. I don't I don't know, okay, successful or unsuccessful.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm trusting our man, Will McClay. I will
Speaker 1: say it was successful. Um. They addressed the defensive needs
Speaker 1: that they needed to Okay, did they though? Well? I said,
Speaker 1: I'm trusting and okay, all right, good answer, good vague answer. Nate,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? Thumb up? Thumb down
Speaker 1: said ecstatic. You got your guy, your guy, you got
Speaker 1: your your big fat clog in the middle, didn't yea, sir,
Speaker 1: And you know I'm just pumped. I'm pumped. Okay, I'm pump. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get into why he's pumped in a minute. Jesse.
Speaker 1: Overall thoughts on the draft, I give it. I give
Speaker 1: it a b um, so I'll answer the question. I
Speaker 1: won't be chicking like the other two. Jesse. He asked,
Speaker 1: you know, he asked, He asked for great. He said great,
Speaker 1: A plus, A plus. I'm sorry. All right, I'm sorry, Jesse,
Speaker 1: I say, b Okay, I say I'm sorry because he's Parsons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why. Well it starts there. Of course it starts there.
Speaker 1: Got their first overall pick. So it starts there with
Speaker 1: with with Parsons. I think Parsons will be a good player. Um,
Speaker 1: I think where they picked him, the positional value was
Speaker 1: it worth the number ten slash twelfth pick especially and
Speaker 1: hints always twenty twenty when you look at getting a
Speaker 1: guy like Jabril Cox later on in the draft some
Speaker 1: other pieces. I just I just think for what this
Speaker 1: team is at that pick, to me that the Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons was a bit of a reachum for a linebacker
Speaker 1: to go that high because the linebacker and in the
Speaker 1: in the in the long play of this whole thing
Speaker 1: won't have the impact that we want at the corners.
Speaker 1: Right the corners are gone. So for me, if if
Speaker 1: the who we initially want it are gone, then the
Speaker 1: next thing for me to have that positional value at
Speaker 1: that pick for the long play of what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are and what the Cowboys will meet, it should have
Speaker 1: been an offensive lineman. We should have went and got
Speaker 1: one of the offensive linemen. Because you don't pay Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott all that Slay I think Slater was selling the ball.
Speaker 1: You don't pay Dak Prescott all that money, and you
Speaker 1: know that you have an aging fast, aging fast Tyrann Smith.
Speaker 1: You've added the extra game to this season, so that
Speaker 1: that goes again, it says, you know, Tyrant's gonna probably
Speaker 1: miss a couple of games, but you hope to get
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to a third contract, right if everything goes
Speaker 1: well and he wins the championship in this you know,
Speaker 1: in this window that he's in, you want to get
Speaker 1: him to a third contract. I don't think Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: would have a greater value to your football team on
Speaker 1: the long play than getting a guy like uh like
Speaker 1: Slater to play that left tackle position that will protect
Speaker 1: your one hundred and sixty seventy thousand million dollar quarterback
Speaker 1: um for the long haul. So that that's where I
Speaker 1: was kind of and you know, we had some other
Speaker 1: issues down down the road, and I'm still waiting to
Speaker 1: make comments about the ball pick the offensive lineman out
Speaker 1: of Marshall uh, you know, And some of the people
Speaker 1: say from THEE, but I like no, because I like,
Speaker 1: I think Parsons is going to be a really good player.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to help this football team. I
Speaker 1: love the Kelvin Joseph pick. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great pick. Jabril Cox is gonna be a really
Speaker 1: good foo player. They addressed a lot of the needs.
Speaker 1: They got some quarterbacks in there, they got some safety player.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a really good overall draft.
Speaker 1: I just think early on the play of getting someone
Speaker 1: at that high of a pick is what really kind
Speaker 1: of I'm not excited this native is about, you know,
Speaker 1: my enthusiasm, but I do think this is a BBC.
Speaker 1: You tell me that plan in a black hole last year,
Speaker 1: that it just opened up and just swallowed the universe.
Speaker 1: That we cannot fix this black hole that we have
Speaker 1: on this defense. You sooner or later you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to invest a high pick. How you than a than
Speaker 1: an eighteenth pick, sixteenth pick, And this kid, Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: if he come in and do the job that he's
Speaker 1: supposed to, if these defensive lineman do the job that's
Speaker 1: supposed to, that would be okay. We have more than
Speaker 1: enough office Rhimetis to satisfy this knee into next year.
Speaker 1: You had a black whole defense that sawt all type
Speaker 1: of records negatively in this league and then this franchise.
Speaker 1: You can't continue every year to say this and then
Speaker 1: next year at this time, if God blesses the all
Speaker 1: to be here, well, the offensive just stopped. Somebody. Sometimes
Speaker 1: somewhere and if you say, as you say, black hole,
Speaker 1: you're not talking about swallowing up runners and receivers. You're
Speaker 1: talking about opening up and letting them completely through. Thank
Speaker 1: you so, time, war, okay, time, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: put it. Jesse stopped that. Jesse stopped like you're too
Speaker 1: I think you're too logical. Sometimes. No, you you addressed
Speaker 1: that with with with the request that you wanted right,
Speaker 1: you wanted some big greasies up front. I think a
Speaker 1: part of that when you talk about linebacker play, Yes
Speaker 1: there was poor play, an injury with Jayla Smith and
Speaker 1: Laton Vanderess, absolutely what Another part of that is we
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody that commanded double teams upfront. Are whether
Speaker 1: whether it was over the center or one technique or
Speaker 1: whatever it was, up front, we we had guys getting
Speaker 1: pushed back into the lap of linebackers. You want good linebackers,
Speaker 1: you give them some good guys up front that give
Speaker 1: them an opportunity to see, read, and diagnose a play
Speaker 1: and get to it. A lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh, the offensive lineman was getting
Speaker 1: to them four or five yards down the football field. Well,
Speaker 1: the opposing team's offensive line was recreating the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmas on our defensive line. So while it man started
Speaker 1: last year, Jests, that's not what you said the last
Speaker 1: the first season games. Last year, you said, look at
Speaker 1: this miss direction, that is what's killing our line. Brackers,
Speaker 1: they take a step this way. No, Jesse, no, you
Speaker 1: are too logical. Let's just look at the field. Said that.
Speaker 1: Real reality, bro, reality is we were a black hole.
Speaker 1: So all right, So so so let me ask this question,
Speaker 1: if we don't fix the matters up front on that
Speaker 1: defensive line, you think you think Michael Parsons is good
Speaker 1: enough to defeat guards and centers from getting to that
Speaker 1: second with the guys that they are brought in, the
Speaker 1: guys that they are brought in up front. Even though
Speaker 1: I'm still upset because we didn't get a guy that
Speaker 1: we know that can stop to run, we have a
Speaker 1: better chance. We have a better chance. I did not
Speaker 1: like how Layton played last year due that, whether it's
Speaker 1: injury or whatever. I didn't like how Jalen played last year. Now, yes,
Speaker 1: I granted a lot of guys were getting pushed back
Speaker 1: in their laps, but when games were when guys wasn't
Speaker 1: getting pushed back in their laps. They did not grow,
Speaker 1: they did not get better. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: these kids can't get better. But now we have competition.
Speaker 1: Now we won't have arrogance walking around the field thinking
Speaker 1: that you're doing something. I love that. I love that,
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that part. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that Parsons was the fourth ranked player on their board?
Speaker 1: And if so, shouldn't you go with that best player available,
Speaker 1: especially a defensive guy unless you get he asked you
Speaker 1: a questioned Jesse. I don't know if he's actually me
Speaker 1: or you. He's asking you that he's looking at me.
Speaker 1: But because I'm good with the draft pick. Again, QUI,
Speaker 1: you know, they said that Parsons was their fourth rated
Speaker 1: prospect on the draft board, and I mean, do you
Speaker 1: think that's true or kind of you know, they're just
Speaker 1: talking him up? And if so, I mean, I like
Speaker 1: the fact that they did take the best player, the
Speaker 1: best defensive player available. I think the defense needed to
Speaker 1: be addressed more. Obviously, you know, there are concerns along
Speaker 1: the line, but like Nate said, I feel a little
Speaker 1: better about what we got going on offensive than what
Speaker 1: we you know, the big holes. We have defense, so
Speaker 1: that excuse me if that sucks at that point, I
Speaker 1: think you have to take the best player available on defense.
Speaker 1: And they claim it was person So if they claimed
Speaker 1: that's who it was, and that's who it was, I mean,
Speaker 1: who am I to tell them that they're wrong. I
Speaker 1: wasn't in the war room. I don't I don't look
Speaker 1: at the boards if they said that's who it was.
Speaker 1: But we also know that. You know, if there's anyone,
Speaker 1: if there's any one who can spend dress up, sell
Speaker 1: a story, it's it's Jerry Jones. So he's going Jerry
Speaker 1: Jon's gonna tell you, like, well, you know, we we
Speaker 1: didn't really want Parsons, but we got him right. No,
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you that this was the guy that
Speaker 1: we wanted. He's gonna tell you a story about how
Speaker 1: he dreamt about him. He gonna tell you a story
Speaker 1: about how he read a tweet from last year about
Speaker 1: this kid saying he wanted to be in the White
Speaker 1: and Blue. He's gonna tell you all these magnificent stories
Speaker 1: to make you and I believe that this was the
Speaker 1: absolute right pick for them. So if they said sure,
Speaker 1: I believe it because let's let's Jerry Jones has never
Speaker 1: told a fit before to us in his life, and
Speaker 1: he's never fabricated the story before to us in his life.
Speaker 1: So if he said it, it gots to be bible. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: let me say this here, man, eight players out of
Speaker 1: leveling right right are defensive players. Now, they advanced one
Speaker 1: of my questions big time. Now the next question is
Speaker 1: when these dudes line upon this field, out of those eight,
Speaker 1: can we get four or five of them on the
Speaker 1: field playing, Because Jesse, I'm talking to you, my man,
Speaker 1: I do not want to go through or another another
Speaker 1: time of wasting Dack's talent, are wasting, the running backs talent,
Speaker 1: are wasting the wide receivers talent. You score forty points,
Speaker 1: but it's a forty that we have to have, and
Speaker 1: not a forty because we blowing folks out because we
Speaker 1: don't have no type of defense at all. We have
Speaker 1: a chance. Now we have a chance. How much of
Speaker 1: an impact can these young guys have though in the
Speaker 1: first year we all know we well they did last year.
Speaker 1: That was so wrong. I think once you found out
Speaker 1: that the guys up front was not the guys we needed,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't play the young guys, so we
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance. Now now we got you know,
Speaker 1: Triston got hurt, Gallamore got hurt towards then, but these
Speaker 1: guys should have been playing. And if they wasn't smart
Speaker 1: enough to play well, you should have dumbined it down
Speaker 1: way quickly before the players started crying and put those
Speaker 1: young guys in there. But this year here you have
Speaker 1: no other choice because coach Quinn, it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: if y'all let me run this, half of these guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run out of here because the film don't lie,
Speaker 1: So half of these guys gonna be going anyway. So
Speaker 1: the young guys gonna play, and we may have an
Speaker 1: ugly first half season, but towards the end, these guys
Speaker 1: and learn what's happening. They'll play fast, they'll play smart,
Speaker 1: and they'll be competition their position. All right, what do
Speaker 1: you think? You know what, I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: I think when we come back from break. You know,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm gonna tell you what I think because
Speaker 1: I think my as the draft progressed, my opinion varied
Speaker 1: greatly with each pick, and I'll let you know where
Speaker 1: I landed. When we come back on the next No
Speaker 1: one cares what I think. They want to hear former
Speaker 1: players and Kurt the wisdom over here. But I'm still
Speaker 1: got a right. We're gonna snickers, Jesse, we got candy
Speaker 1: two he goes to pick the wrong day to play hookie.
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Speaker 1: guys have been dying to hear what I think about
Speaker 1: the draft. When the first few rounds, I was not
Speaker 1: overly excited. I was not super thrilled with the Parsons pick,
Speaker 1: just because I was thinking offensive tackle that was there.
Speaker 1: I was really shocked that both cornerbacks were off the board.
Speaker 1: But as the draft, Here's what I like about the draft.
Speaker 1: They knew where the problem was. It was defense, the
Speaker 1: whole defense. Right. They filled the holes that they didn't
Speaker 1: address in free agency with the draft. It was like
Speaker 1: they actually had a plan this year. They went out
Speaker 1: they got some safety help. Now those safety is going
Speaker 1: to be the answer and the be all end all
Speaker 1: to be determined, right, But they went out they got
Speaker 1: you now have if these linebackers. The Cocks pick I
Speaker 1: was over the moon with. I thought that was the
Speaker 1: steal of the draft. Man's if he's anything like he
Speaker 1: was at LSU, he's you went from having a very
Speaker 1: suspect group of linebackers based off for performance last year too, Hey,
Speaker 1: you might have the best linebacking corps in the league
Speaker 1: if these guys live up to their potential. I saw
Speaker 1: were LaVar Arrington, which knows a little bit about playing linebacker,
Speaker 1: said that Michael Parsons has the potential to be the
Speaker 1: best to every one of the best to ever play
Speaker 1: the position. So I love what they did now that
Speaker 1: I think about it. Where was your Where was your
Speaker 1: big issue last year? The run game right getting to
Speaker 1: the second level, not being able to get those guys
Speaker 1: off of you and get you addressed that. I think
Speaker 1: there were a couple of picks to me that were
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach, But then you made
Speaker 1: up for it with Ball, you made up for it
Speaker 1: with Cox. I think it it wound up leveling itself
Speaker 1: out as you went through the draft. I'm excited you
Speaker 1: got eleven picks. I kind of I said. Right before
Speaker 1: the draft I went on with Cowboys UK and I said,
Speaker 1: just don't get cute with this. Don't move up, don't
Speaker 1: move back. Whoever falls to he at ten, stay there.
Speaker 1: I spelt that way. When they moved back a couple
Speaker 1: of a few picks, but I think it worked out
Speaker 1: for them. You know, it's going to take two or
Speaker 1: three years to tell if this draft is a good one.
Speaker 1: But I actually liked what they did. Once the draft
Speaker 1: was over, I was able to sit back and go
Speaker 1: look at some of these guys and read about them
Speaker 1: and see some tape, and you know, Nate got his guy.
Speaker 1: You know, we got a big guy that can clog
Speaker 1: up the middle. I like it. I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what these guys do. Were you guys questioning what was
Speaker 1: going on during that third round because they got a
Speaker 1: lot of criticism for reaching for yeah, a little bit
Speaker 1: reaching for who they say all three of the if
Speaker 1: you talk to the you know, the experts, who whoever
Speaker 1: that is, you know, they were saying that those all
Speaker 1: three picks were they were all h reaches, that they
Speaker 1: were taking too high, especially the nine nine picked it. Now,
Speaker 1: Sean Wright, Um, so where you got did that kind
Speaker 1: of throw you off a little bit? You know what?
Speaker 1: I think you got it in your notes when we
Speaker 1: go to your section that they let Will McClay have
Speaker 1: a lot to say in this trap because they were
Speaker 1: the ones that's watching film. You couldn't visit a lot
Speaker 1: of guys when a lot of putting hands on, So
Speaker 1: you had to kind of look at the film and
Speaker 1: determine what these coaches like. They're like long players, they
Speaker 1: like players that are supposed to be having some intelligence
Speaker 1: to them. So I'm liking it. I'm gonna trusting Will
Speaker 1: mcclin's I see different. But we don't have two or
Speaker 1: three years. We have a year or two two or
Speaker 1: three years. If it's two or three years, we're back
Speaker 1: in the same boat. We need guys that can play.
Speaker 1: These guys have to come in and play, and I
Speaker 1: think they drafted guys that can come in. I think
Speaker 1: Coach Quinn knows what they want. We have to help
Speaker 1: help the offense. And we cannot every year be what
Speaker 1: is it nine and nine and whatever the wreck going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, because it's an extra game now,
Speaker 1: So nine and eight we can't beat that every year
Speaker 1: and saying were almost there, We're almost there, and we
Speaker 1: never addressed the black hole that sits on the side
Speaker 1: of our defense. We gotta address it. They addressed it,
Speaker 1: you know. I think we might really see just how
Speaker 1: good or hopefully not bad. Will McLeay and his staff
Speaker 1: are at this because, like he said, you know, in
Speaker 1: the past, because of all the restrictions, they didn't have
Speaker 1: a combine, they didn't have the protas they could go to,
Speaker 1: they couldn't scout as much. But that leads to it,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of what word he used was
Speaker 1: a group think, where you have all these scouts going
Speaker 1: to one place and then they all go to the other,
Speaker 1: and then they all go to the other and they're
Speaker 1: talking the whole time, and so they kind of form
Speaker 1: almost a combined opinion on players. They talk each other
Speaker 1: into yeah, yeah, oh yeah, this guy's good, this guy well.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do that this year. McClay and his staff
Speaker 1: had to rely on their own people. They had to
Speaker 1: watch film, they couldn't go out as much. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if this may really show what
Speaker 1: great evaluators. Yeah, they have a year. Here's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Here's gonna be the biggest thing that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: lacked for a very long time. It's not the Will
Speaker 1: McClay factor. Yes, you want Will McClay to bring in
Speaker 1: the guys. The biggest thing that the Cowboys have lacked
Speaker 1: in and we see it happened in other places development.
Speaker 1: Can these coaches get the most out of the players?
Speaker 1: Can they squeeze out all of the juice out of
Speaker 1: these players? This football club has lacked a consistent level
Speaker 1: of development of his players. Yeah, when you get guys
Speaker 1: like a Murray Cooper, when you get guys in the
Speaker 1: first round, when you get when you get those level guys,
Speaker 1: those guys are supposed to be NFL ready in the
Speaker 1: sense of they don't need much development to get what
Speaker 1: they have to get. It's when you get guys in
Speaker 1: that third round, fourth round, fifth round. How can you
Speaker 1: develop them? This team, this franchise, this organization has been
Speaker 1: pissed poor and prior years of getting whether it be
Speaker 1: draft picks or unsigned guys or whoever, it is the
Speaker 1: ability to develop players, to have a stable of players
Speaker 1: that can go out there and play. We've always been
Speaker 1: super top heavy. We've always had all of the bells
Speaker 1: and whistles on the outside, but our engine and our
Speaker 1: core has been weak. And that is the biggest thing
Speaker 1: for me when it comes to getting all of these players.
Speaker 1: Can Dan Quinn, can Mike McCarthy, Can this group as
Speaker 1: a whole? How can you develop them? How can you
Speaker 1: get them ready to go and play right now, Bradley
Speaker 1: and I who was drafted last year, should be ready
Speaker 1: to go. Nevill Gallimore should be ready to go. Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: my god, you gotta be ready to go. Young fella
Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to get some of these
Speaker 1: guys that you've brought into your system developed and ready
Speaker 1: to know, you gotta get them on the field. So now,
Speaker 1: as you're growing these other young draft picks, right as
Speaker 1: you're growing the Parsons, as you're growing the Jabril Cox
Speaker 1: in the world, as you're growing the Nashans and those
Speaker 1: other players, you're saying, as you guys are developing, I
Speaker 1: got these other group of guys that I know can
Speaker 1: go out here and give me some stuff. That's been
Speaker 1: the problem. We've been so top heavy, Like, oh man,
Speaker 1: if if Sean Lee goes down, it's a roup. We
Speaker 1: can't function. If Jayla Smith can't play, we can't function.
Speaker 1: If so So us out, we can't function because we've
Speaker 1: been so top heavy. And you see it across the
Speaker 1: league the level of development that happens in good football
Speaker 1: programs that if guy a guy or two may go down,
Speaker 1: they plug the next guy in. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: next guy has to be a pro bowler at all,
Speaker 1: pro Hall of Famer. What they they're able to plug
Speaker 1: those gaps and allow those guys to be placeholders to
Speaker 1: set player gets back into the fold. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: lacked ability to develop players for a very long time,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be key, dan Quinn. You want
Speaker 1: the long arms and the big guys, you got them.
Speaker 1: You got them, You got all of them. All the
Speaker 1: guys that you got drafted up front, got long arms,
Speaker 1: got what you what you want size ability. Can you
Speaker 1: develop guys that are going to be giving you layers
Speaker 1: and levels to your defense. If you can't, we'll find
Speaker 1: ourself in the same place if you've been find ourself.
Speaker 1: Every single year, one guy goes down, one guy's not
Speaker 1: performing well, the rest of the rest of the rest
Speaker 1: of the car won't work. You gotta be able to say, hey,
Speaker 1: here's the next guy in line, here's the placeholder, here's
Speaker 1: guys that we have. Here's our rotation of quality players
Speaker 1: that we can put out there on defense to help
Speaker 1: this football team out. Fellas, this is a monumental moment
Speaker 1: in the history of the show. Okay for them, come
Speaker 1: on the first time. Come on, come on, over a year,
Speaker 1: let's go, we have a caller. Let's get the phone
Speaker 1: rang so much coming, but it's coming to agree with me?
Speaker 1: No coming, Yeah, because I was gonna blow it up,
Speaker 1: but I knew we had a call, so I was
Speaker 1: gonna blow up what you said, Jess, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let it go. Oh, let's blow it up. After the
Speaker 1: call for the first time in the year. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go to the phone. Chris said. The phone was ringing
Speaker 1: off the hook and he really just a somebody, so
Speaker 1: we stopped ringing. It's Josh and Maryland. Josh, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, and congratulations on being the first caller in
Speaker 1: over a year. How I like it? I like Star
Speaker 1: was playing. I had the call that I had that
Speaker 1: was really blowing up the line, man, because I just
Speaker 1: wanted to tell y'all I appreciate the show and all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. I don't roll with y'all throughout the
Speaker 1: whole pandemicicity to be an FPN show for real, for real.
Speaker 1: Now I've watched that up. It was kind of damn. Man,
Speaker 1: that was damn And I'm like, I'm hype about this, friends,
Speaker 1: I don't understand we gotta let me layers to come
Speaker 1: get competition to the defense, and that's the thing that
Speaker 1: we was missing. You got all the top heavy players.
Speaker 1: They already start things on the Super Bowl. I liked
Speaker 1: this draft. I mean from the first pick to the
Speaker 1: last pick. I think that they kept saying we got
Speaker 1: hot floor. Guys hot floor. Got so many guys twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one years old. How know they ain't gonna get back.
Speaker 1: You know. I think it's your two much three judge.
Speaker 1: I think we should have these guys at because I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about them. Talk now they cut. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a deafer season. So I just wanted to come
Speaker 1: in and say that and appreciate jobs. Yeah, man, that's great.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your listening to it. I love that you came
Speaker 1: with that fire man help. You showed up. They got
Speaker 1: Jesse going in the right direction. Jesse hearing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you Jesse can't hear me. That's great,
Speaker 1: that's great, Josh, Josh got it going on. So Nate
Speaker 1: blow Jesse up. The thing is you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: I love you. You can't develop what you don't play
Speaker 1: when you have coaches deciding on this player, that player,
Speaker 1: this player, and all of a sudden, you get here,
Speaker 1: Oh this guy can't play. Oh wow, this guy can't
Speaker 1: learn the defense. Whoa, We can't do this with this guy.
Speaker 1: You don't drop Jesse. You know the rule on defensive players,
Speaker 1: anybody that's a full frowned pig and hire your own defense.
Speaker 1: You have to play unless your defense is a first
Speaker 1: top rated defense. We don't have a top rated defense.
Speaker 1: These guys will learn, they will be developed. Quinn has
Speaker 1: his hands all over this. Uh. Will McClay has his
Speaker 1: hands all over these guys have to play. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you. You got all right? Well, Nate, you
Speaker 1: just made my point. You just made my point. You
Speaker 1: thank you for thinking you're blowing me up. But I'm
Speaker 1: not blowing you up to the other guy blew you up.
Speaker 1: I'm just you made the you made you made the
Speaker 1: very critical point. But you just said development is a
Speaker 1: part of that that we haven't done that in the past,
Speaker 1: not just last year with with that coaching staff, and
Speaker 1: the year before that and the year before that. So
Speaker 1: playing these guys, finding a role for him, developing them.
Speaker 1: You can't keep these guys on the sideline and just
Speaker 1: think it's gonna just happen all of a sudden. They're
Speaker 1: just going just by ostmosis. These guys are gonna turn
Speaker 1: into players. No, you have to put together a plan
Speaker 1: on how to get them to become a player. The
Speaker 1: problem that we had before, we had this level of
Speaker 1: entitlement and guys would just show up and saying, well,
Speaker 1: I was the start of last week, I'm the start
Speaker 1: of this week, and no coaches challenge them and bade
Speaker 1: them have to earn their spot. I think that is
Speaker 1: changing with what dan Quinn has drafted this year and
Speaker 1: his philosophy. He wants guys to go out there and compete.
Speaker 1: He comes from a place where guys had to go
Speaker 1: out there and compete under Pete Carroll in Seattle. So
Speaker 1: to your point to helping make my point is it's
Speaker 1: now time to develop these guys. Play them, find places
Speaker 1: for them to play, fine roles for them to go
Speaker 1: and and and allow their games to flourish as you're
Speaker 1: building them. So they thank you for for So how
Speaker 1: are they gonna? Okay, they have five linebackers. Now you
Speaker 1: got the two rookies and Parsons, and in uh Cox
Speaker 1: you've got obviously Jayon Smith, Layton vanderih and they've signed
Speaker 1: Can O'Neill, who's supposed to play linebacker. Seventy percent of
Speaker 1: the time, they're two linebackers on the field. How are
Speaker 1: you gonna develop? How are you gonna balance the development
Speaker 1: of the young guys with baby? What about? I mean,
Speaker 1: how are you gonna David David Hellman. David Hellman had
Speaker 1: had an amazing tweet. It was from the movie Uh Batman,
Speaker 1: and he had the joker where he said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have tryouts and he took the pool stick and he
Speaker 1: broke the pool stick, and he had two sides of
Speaker 1: the bank, and he said, whoever whoever comes out of
Speaker 1: who whoever comes out of this room, that's who's on
Speaker 1: the team. Yes, that's how you do it. You go
Speaker 1: out there and you let God you got guys go
Speaker 1: out there and compete. Ain't nobody, nobody's a starter. We're
Speaker 1: gonna split these reps. Guys are gonna play, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give a fair shot to each one of these guys. Now,
Speaker 1: part of development is on the players side of it
Speaker 1: is you gotta go and study, you gotta go and learn,
Speaker 1: you gotta go and prepare yourself so that when you
Speaker 1: get your opportunity on the field in practice, in OTAs,
Speaker 1: in mini camps, in training camp, that you show improve
Speaker 1: But the days of we're just gonna march this on
Speaker 1: this first group out and they're gonna have Oh, I
Speaker 1: think we lost Jesse. You know what, Let's hang on.
Speaker 1: We we gotta do something real quick, Kurt, because we
Speaker 1: have a long Chris started something. He answered the phone
Speaker 1: and now the phone won't stop ringing. Hold on, Chris
Speaker 1: makes we have good calls now. Yeah, but we got
Speaker 1: a special call that we have to take because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be really expensive if we keep him on hold
Speaker 1: any longer. It's our old buddy Philip from France. Philip,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm fine, and it's a great pleasure
Speaker 1: and it's great to talk to you again. You know,
Speaker 1: I missed a lot all of you talking with with you.
Speaker 1: Just one thing for Jessy. I love your T shirt Jessy,
Speaker 1: and I remember that picture from the game in San Francisco. Great.
Speaker 1: I love it. So my question is essentially for the
Speaker 1: future of fame famer Nick Newton, I like to know
Speaker 1: what what are your thoughts on the big guys they
Speaker 1: select the couple we selected during the draft playing on
Speaker 1: offense and defense. Thanks for taking Michael, take care, be safe,
Speaker 1: Bye bye, Thanks Phillips. Let me let me say this.
Speaker 1: I watched a couple of highlights. You know, you know
Speaker 1: the highlights. Okay, highlights. The guys can run. These big
Speaker 1: guys could move from tackle the tackle. And that's what
Speaker 1: I look at. How quick can you get from tackle
Speaker 1: the tackle? Can you stop to run? And these guys
Speaker 1: from who they was playing against, they was able to
Speaker 1: the highlights stopped to run. I'm excited about that. And
Speaker 1: as Jesse was saying, it's gonna come down to this,
Speaker 1: and y'all seen a movie Batman, right, whether Joker broke
Speaker 1: the stickies down, you just threw it on the ground.
Speaker 1: They had to get up there and kill somebody to
Speaker 1: get up out of there to be on the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who do you get thinks gets like the I don't know.
Speaker 1: I say benefit of the doubt or who who has
Speaker 1: the favored is let me say the high price second
Speaker 1: round pick from a few years ago or the number
Speaker 1: one pick from a couple of years ago. Is it
Speaker 1: this year's number one pick? If you have a rookie
Speaker 1: that's doing the same thing a veteran doing, and your
Speaker 1: only fears that he gonna make a mistake. What played
Speaker 1: a rookie? See, I remember several years ago Jimmy had
Speaker 1: to make a say, I can't think of a guy.
Speaker 1: It was a great scenario. Jimmy told one of the
Speaker 1: defensive back coaches, hold on, this rookie can do the
Speaker 1: same thing this dude doing. Who've been there for six
Speaker 1: years and all in this rookie upside is greater, and
Speaker 1: all we're gonna worry about him making a mistake in
Speaker 1: the game. Were better than that. We're gonna play the rookie.
Speaker 1: You you don't give a veteran he has to be
Speaker 1: head and shoulders better than this rookie. And when we
Speaker 1: lost a friend of the show and Antoine was, but
Speaker 1: I love Antoine was, and my my thing to anton
Speaker 1: was right now, Antoine, you are a run stopping machine.
Speaker 1: You lost that over the years, over these few years,
Speaker 1: you lost your ability and your mindset of what got
Speaker 1: you here. Guess what now you're on the street, don't
Speaker 1: lose sight of who you are and what you are.
Speaker 1: And if you're a veteran and you're not doing what
Speaker 1: you were brought here to doing it. Doing it at
Speaker 1: a high level, you become a casualty. And so if
Speaker 1: Jalen is not making plays just typical three yards of
Speaker 1: less plays for tackles, why not play the other guy?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not give Parsons all the reps. It's
Speaker 1: not a hard thing to figure out. It's not a
Speaker 1: hard because you got a super offense over here, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep keep playing these veteran guys. That's giving
Speaker 1: up eight hundred yards a game, four hundred touchdowns a year,
Speaker 1: and not that the young guys play. No, it don't
Speaker 1: work that way, man, It don't work that way. Before
Speaker 1: we go to our last break, Jesse Philip brought up
Speaker 1: your shirt and he said it was a great shirt.
Speaker 1: And you have a picture of you on yourself. Explain please, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is the photo the coach? This is the photo
Speaker 1: from San fran where Tony giving me his Chipotle order.
Speaker 1: Uh right, man, he's giving me the Chipotle order right
Speaker 1: before we go out for that final drive and winning
Speaker 1: that game in overtime in San Francisco. Tony's a very
Speaker 1: he's a stickler about you know, his his burrito bowl.
Speaker 1: So listen, man's how I want what was he telling
Speaker 1: if you forget that, if you forget, if you forget
Speaker 1: the guawk, it's over for you, telling you if you
Speaker 1: get the guas, pack your bags. So for I honestly
Speaker 1: don't know because I kept over talking him like I
Speaker 1: normally do everyone else. He was saying something and I
Speaker 1: just kept telling him, Tony, I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready. Tone,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. Tone. You can just see my
Speaker 1: head shake and I'm like, I'm ready. Whatever he was saying,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, let's go. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: So I made sure I got the guak on the
Speaker 1: side like he likes it. Uh, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: he was happily. He was happy. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our last break. When we come back, it's corner saw
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Speaker 1: Is it bad? I'm trying to get back into working
Speaker 1: out and I'm I'm I'm in poor shape. Fellows? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Are you? Have you been over to Cowboys Fit since
Speaker 1: the pandemic started? I just started going back, so I
Speaker 1: haven't been. I need to. I've been going to the
Speaker 1: apartment gym where I live. I haven't been to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Fit. Is it is? It is? It has been
Speaker 1: a full time employees. Do you guys got to discount
Speaker 1: over at the Cowboys We get a really good rate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the and the Jones family is kind enough to
Speaker 1: supplement the the membership that we don't have to pay,
Speaker 1: so they pay a big portion of it for going
Speaker 1: to that gym as a humbling. That's good. That's that's
Speaker 1: great for health insurance though. Yeah, it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a nice gym too. Man. It's it's really everybody it's
Speaker 1: to and being old and out of shape, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: the outlier there. I don't think you're the bat not
Speaker 1: that old compared to those people in there. I am
Speaker 1: you're old, but you're not that old. All right, Kurt, Kurt, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, just man, we're losing all of
Speaker 1: our social media allies on the team. We lost, you know,
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford earlier in the year to retirement. We we
Speaker 1: just lost Antoine Woods. Don't know what's going on with
Speaker 1: Joe Looney, Like, I gotta go make some new relationships.
Speaker 1: I gotta get some some guys easy. All these new
Speaker 1: kids coming in. Oh yeah, these young guys love social
Speaker 1: media and they it's the older guys. It's like, dude, relies,
Speaker 1: get away from me. These young guys they can't wait
Speaker 1: to do a TikTok or video or something. So you do, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get out Stanford. But stuff is he get out of Stanford? Jesse?
Speaker 1: You on TikTok? No? No, okay, still just Twitter? Unto man,
Speaker 1: what'd you say, Kurt? Just Twitter? You didn't lose much
Speaker 1: when Sean Lee retired there Sean was not very active
Speaker 1: on social media. He had an Instagram account that he
Speaker 1: actually started posting on his Instagram account. But uh, you
Speaker 1: know over there, just what's you call it for? You guys? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did hast the phone he did us Kurt, this
Speaker 1: is this time he'll every time he'll just let you
Speaker 1: take off. I know, and I did not give him
Speaker 1: like three minutes. Yeah, you have to actually have ten
Speaker 1: whole minutes. Go, Kurt Amy Porter, let's go. I got
Speaker 1: I got two questions they want to run by you.
Speaker 1: One of them should be a pretty quick the other
Speaker 1: one might take a little more time, but the first one. Then.
Speaker 1: Will McClay had said in one of his post draft
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the exact quote here. He said
Speaker 1: that the game, now, as I learned from the coaches,
Speaker 1: all about space. That's why they chose you know, tall guys,
Speaker 1: guys with long arms. Can you guys kind of break down?
Speaker 1: What is he talking about by space? How is it
Speaker 1: different now with space? You want to answer that with Jesse?
Speaker 1: You want me, yes, sir. What he means by space
Speaker 1: is when you look at what football used to be.
Speaker 1: Everything used to be played in a box, right tight
Speaker 1: end to tight end, a lot of twenty two personnel,
Speaker 1: twelve personnel. Now when you look at it, football is
Speaker 1: being played with every bit of that. Fifty three in
Speaker 1: a third, four five wide receivers. Guys are being spread out,
Speaker 1: concepts of being places where I want to lift a defense.
Speaker 1: So now I get a match up with space without
Speaker 1: running back in the linebacker. I want to create all
Speaker 1: these different space where now I get guys with the
Speaker 1: ball in their hands in different spaces. So the game
Speaker 1: has expanded from being just in that little, any bitty
Speaker 1: box of what it used to be to now they're
Speaker 1: using the entire football field to run plays, for formations,
Speaker 1: for configurations, for play calling, and so now you have
Speaker 1: to have guys if I can't, if I can't put
Speaker 1: a man in every single open space, then I have
Speaker 1: to be able to use my size, guys with long arms,
Speaker 1: guys with length, and guys with hype, because those windows
Speaker 1: have now gone from this to this because guys are
Speaker 1: spreading you out and using more of that fifty three
Speaker 1: and the third on the football field. So you got
Speaker 1: to now put players in places that they can cover
Speaker 1: up that space, whether that be with speed, whether that
Speaker 1: be with length, whether that be with hype, so that
Speaker 1: you now can cover those areas where the team offensively
Speaker 1: tries to stretch you in space with space with their
Speaker 1: formations and configurations like you see the league doing now,
Speaker 1: and just make real simple blocks. Don't play no more.
Speaker 1: It's all about the athlete. You see it. In basketball,
Speaker 1: it's all about athletics. If you if you were, they
Speaker 1: will sacrifice a little bit for a better athlete, for
Speaker 1: a tall athlete, like just to say, the closed space
Speaker 1: you know to be able to before you know, I
Speaker 1: had over the center, and I give you just a
Speaker 1: sympathy over the center. I had right a yard to
Speaker 1: his left, yard to his right. Now they run stretch plays.
Speaker 1: Everybody's running some film of a stretch play where they
Speaker 1: hand the ball. They act extra working back. At least
Speaker 1: make your aim and point out to the tackle so
Speaker 1: that stretches is out right there another yard or two.
Speaker 1: So everybody has to have half lean. So when your
Speaker 1: quarterback looking, he'll see a guy in a whole our gap.
Speaker 1: When the running back looking, he'll see a guy in
Speaker 1: the space. As you see and read, is mastered it,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, when when I asked you, he's mastered it.
Speaker 1: If he see an open space, he getting the guy
Speaker 1: that he's like, heye, run the same formation, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna put a guy running the right in
Speaker 1: this open area. So you have to not be a
Speaker 1: block like guys like me on defense were obsolete. Now
Speaker 1: them blocks them blocks ain't hand, ain't holding up no
Speaker 1: more so like the Cowboys took Kelvin Joseph in the
Speaker 1: in the second rounds considered, you know, kind of a job.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just under six foot, but
Speaker 1: you know, just after him, Um Sante Samuel was taken
Speaker 1: by the Chargers, who's maybe an inch shorter, maybe his
Speaker 1: arms or an inch shorter. I mean, does that really
Speaker 1: make that big a difference when you've got just an inch?
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it just depends on how great
Speaker 1: an athlete you are. It just depends on how great
Speaker 1: athletes you are. What this coach likes and what McCarthy
Speaker 1: was trying to get to last year was that long
Speaker 1: athletic guy that can play more than one position, that
Speaker 1: can play right over the and then three to four
Speaker 1: where you have your your end right over the tackles,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he wanted that long
Speaker 1: guy that can fall down over that guard, you know,
Speaker 1: and build and be longer than this guy. You want
Speaker 1: leverage and leverage used to be short. Can I get
Speaker 1: up under you and power drive you out? You know?
Speaker 1: Could I stay with you? The little short, quick guy?
Speaker 1: Now everybody's long, I mean you had the receivers this
Speaker 1: year that didn't have a lot of tall receivers. But
Speaker 1: everybody else is long, athletic, and they want that. Every
Speaker 1: team is seeking that, every defense is seeking that. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't want that old, stubby guy that you can
Speaker 1: throw the ball over these days, you know that. I
Speaker 1: mean like, if Layton was healthy, Layton Vanderesh at six three,
Speaker 1: six four, that's nice bro, I guess. And at the
Speaker 1: corner position, again, it goes back to what they run
Speaker 1: in this defense. They run a lot of cover three,
Speaker 1: a lot of man free. So I want to be
Speaker 1: able to have that guy be able to have the long,
Speaker 1: long arm to jam a guy at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: a guy who when sometimes when you gotta throw, when
Speaker 1: that fair route seems tempting, you know, I got a
Speaker 1: longer guy can get up there and deflect it and
Speaker 1: make that throw a much more difficult throw than the
Speaker 1: smaller cornerback. So I need a guy who can play
Speaker 1: some press, who could play some zones. So it's like
Speaker 1: if I can find those bigger athletic guys and I
Speaker 1: can use them, because the range of these guys makes
Speaker 1: that throw so much more difficult. Go back and watch
Speaker 1: Seattle when they were in their prime, of how many
Speaker 1: times you thought the fate route was there, and all
Speaker 1: those guys Brandon Browner, Richard Sherman and guys like that,
Speaker 1: they would just tip it up and you would see
Speaker 1: them just tip it up in the air and hit
Speaker 1: come a linebacker hit them earl timeAs hit them someone
Speaker 1: else being able to come in and make a play.
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily that they will knock the ball down.
Speaker 1: They would say, with my length, even though if I
Speaker 1: can't get it, I'm gonna just knock it back up
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have two of the guys right into
Speaker 1: the football who are long, athletic, and fast. And that's
Speaker 1: how they created a lot of those turnovers and that
Speaker 1: leasional boom defense. It was using their length in space
Speaker 1: deflecting footballs being able to It's like a zone defense,
Speaker 1: like like running the two three when you watch Syracuse
Speaker 1: in college basketball runner two three. All those guys are
Speaker 1: super long and athletic and they're able to cover a
Speaker 1: lot of space with their length, and when you add
Speaker 1: that to the mix of athleticism and speed, now you've
Speaker 1: got something where you can run that defense that dan
Speaker 1: Quinn wants to run. He said, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: equated the basketball like you know short, excuse men, a
Speaker 1: guy like Shannon who can just blow by Jesse, you
Speaker 1: know yourself, you just call me short. I didn't you
Speaker 1: go to lay that ball up? And the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, Jesse, like I got you. You know, he
Speaker 1: don't battered the ball with because you you may have
Speaker 1: gotten a step on him, but due to his long
Speaker 1: arms and its athletic ability. See a lot of times
Speaker 1: Richard shermanan would be beat, but if it was a fade,
Speaker 1: they had enough speed to catch up and enough body
Speaker 1: to get up. So it's it's all about recovery too.
Speaker 1: Then Sean Wright, who everybody was really questioned. A lot
Speaker 1: of people didn't you know they were didn't even have
Speaker 1: them on their board or you know, yeah, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be drafted. I mean, he's the tallest corner in the
Speaker 1: draft now is so he may be the prototype of
Speaker 1: what we're we're hoping for that you know what. The
Speaker 1: reason I said AA plus because I'm just glad they
Speaker 1: went all defense. But like I said, second part is
Speaker 1: that they got to get on the field. As Jesse said,
Speaker 1: I made I reiterated his point of development, put them
Speaker 1: on the field. Okay, they gotta get on the field.
Speaker 1: If these if we have one of our defensive players
Speaker 1: that is in the top four pigs and and they,
Speaker 1: hey man, such ain't playing like the kid we got
Speaker 1: last year that I can't the outside linebacker, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's him, couldn't even get on the field. Why who
Speaker 1: was in front of him that was so much better
Speaker 1: that had like ten or twelve sacks? Oh, we didn't
Speaker 1: have a guy. We didn't have a team in ten
Speaker 1: or twelve zacks? Did we as a team? So? Who
Speaker 1: was this? Who? Who was not to put this guy
Speaker 1: on the field? Yeah, you know that didn't say much
Speaker 1: for the coaches. Yeah. The other question I was gonna ask,
Speaker 1: and maybe we saved this from next week because I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take more time. Yeah, because we'll have
Speaker 1: a minute now. Yeah, I mean that was gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, they've drafted some guys with some questionable off
Speaker 1: the field issues, and is that going to be a
Speaker 1: big concern that might be a deeper discussion next Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get in that next. Um. The other one I had, though,
Speaker 1: was one writer said that the really the key to
Speaker 1: this draft, be life. It's a dog life, Jess second chance.
Speaker 1: All right, yes, sir. Do you think one writer said
Speaker 1: he thought that Calvin Joseph, the second round pick, is
Speaker 1: going to be the key to this draft, that he's
Speaker 1: the guy, same interview. Yeah, I mean do you agree
Speaker 1: with that? I mean they've they've taken such chances at
Speaker 1: the four and the second. Yes, he is he is
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, he's LSU then he Canny in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: This dude can ball. Now. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: off the field issues is, but you know what, just
Speaker 1: get a guy this twice his size and you can
Speaker 1: knock him out. Every time we get read to do
Speaker 1: some wrong, boom and taken back to the crib. Then
Speaker 1: wake up. I got a question before we get out
Speaker 1: of here for Chris. Chris, do you have sores on
Speaker 1: your butt? Why is that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, wow you did.
Speaker 1: I just want I just want to give you some props.
Speaker 1: Y'all did a hell of a job on the Draft show.
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of the Draft Show. Dude, you
Speaker 1: sat in that chair for how many hours over three days?
Speaker 1: Probably thirty plus hours? Gosh yeah, something like that, yall. Thursday,
Speaker 1: Friday Saturday. Yeah, dude, y'all cast during the day you
Speaker 1: had footage. Was there was there a guy you didn't
Speaker 1: have footage of that got drafted? No, weans say, it's
Speaker 1: pretty easy. We I had the deep snappers, the kickers.
Speaker 1: It was great. Man. Yeah, I'll tell you what if
Speaker 1: you if you don't watch our draft, I would put
Speaker 1: our draft coverage up against any of the national guys.
Speaker 1: They go through every pick. It's not just Cowboys centric
Speaker 1: like they brought us. Was on it, Dan, Dane was
Speaker 1: on it. Dane's amazing. Jeff Cavanaugh, you know, Kyle host
Speaker 1: it very sol like someone someone needs to make. Dane
Speaker 1: Brugal GM he knows his stuff. Something he knows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's one thing to pick pick for free it
Speaker 1: y'all did. Y'all did a hell of a jobt man, congratulations,
Speaker 1: hell of a hell of a draft show. So so
Speaker 1: my one question is when you went home to the family,
Speaker 1: did you just say not tonight, I'm tired. You still
Speaker 1: played with that big old baby boy yours. Well, by
Speaker 1: the time I got home, it was so late every night,
Speaker 1: so they're already sleeping. Did you play did you play
Speaker 1: Call of Duty at all? Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Did
Speaker 1: not play call man. You know he was wiped out.
Speaker 1: You know what, you should have got that apple on
Speaker 1: the shoulder saying listen up. That's an Endellas. It's been
Speaker 1: great Kurt Man, Nate, good scene, Chris, thanks you for
Speaker 1: the hat. Nice shirt, Chris, thanks for keeping us on
Speaker 1: the air. I want some quak on the side man
Speaker 1: side next week, and we got you, baby. We will
Speaker 1: talk about like a guat guy. We will talk about
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