1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Jay Secular sitting in for our 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: friend Sean Hannity. In fact, we have the entire Secular 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: team here today, so I'm gonna let everybody introduce themselves. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Jordan Seculo's here, Executive director of the ACLJ. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Logan Secular, director of Media Operations here. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: So you've got the whole Secular team here. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, we want to get right into it because 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: there is a lot of news breaking right now and 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: we appreciate Sean letting us sit in for him today. 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Let me start with this. 11 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: The Michigan Supreme Court just issued a decision very significant 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: because there's been this attempt, as you all know, to 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: remove the former president from ballots. It started first in 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Colorado and then it's been in I think how many 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: we handle now join anything a dozen cases? 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean we've wanted Colorado that's on appeal. We've 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: wanted Michigan now at home on. 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Minnesota, Oklahoma. 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: We're interviewed in Piddy litigation West Virginia, Virginia and Wyoming, 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: and in this Michigan case, very important that not only 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 4: do we represent Michigan's GOP, the fourteen other states. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Oklahoma's Colorado's, West. 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: Virginia's, Kansas, Wilobing's, North Dakota's, Wisconsin, Delawares, Georgia, Nebraska, made Idaho, 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: Rhode Island at Ohio, and that Michigan. It's their Court 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: of Appeals, but that is their top court, said President Trump. 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: He's on the ballot. So this is a move part 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: of a bigger move. 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to look at what's going on 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: in these state court cases where they're trying to use 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendments, Section three, which is called the disqualification 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: clause see insurrection clause. And of course Trump, the former 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: president was never charged with insurrection. And I'm sure a 33 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of you know, and if you don't, Jordan and 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: I represented the former president for four years during the presidency, 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: handled the impeachment cases, handled the Muller probe, so we've 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: been intimately involved in this and we've handled now the 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: cases that Jordan went through on the state attempts. At 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: the same time, you've got the Supreme Court of the 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: United States has taken direct action in two cases involving 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the former president, one involving and I don't think this 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: is necessarily a good sign. 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: For Jack and that is. 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: The Special Council, who I know only from his work 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: at the International Criminal Court in the Hay where we've 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: represented the interests of the United States and Israel before. 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: What's interesting there is the Supreme Court took a case 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: involving the insurrection charge on the January sixth activities that 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: took place on Capitol Hill. And it was the reason 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: I think they took it was there was a descent 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: by Judge Castis, who was a former Deputy Chief Council 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: of the at the White House Council under President Trump, 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: got appointed to the Court of Appeals, somebody I know 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: very well, very good lawyer, very good judge wrote a 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: very noteworthy, I would say, dissent talking about not saying 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: with the activities what took place on the Capitol Hill 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: that day were right, but saying the way the courts 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: interpreted the Criminal Code section it encompassed all this First 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: Amendment activity, the right to petition your government for redress agrievances, 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: the freedom of association, the freedom of speech. So he 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: said it was overbroad, and the Supreme Court shocking. I 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: was surprised, I'll be honest, I was surprised they did it. 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court of the United States has taken that case. 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: At the same time Jack Smith, the Special Council asked 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: for expedited review of the claim of presidential immunity that 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: the presidents now as current lawyers, have asserted with regard 66 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: to the cases that are pending, saying that charging him 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: with the crime for actions he took as president would 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: violate Article two and presidential immunity, which we argued that 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of the United States as well. 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: You got to remember this charge that the Supreme Court 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: is looking at is the main real action. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Charge. 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: On January sixth is as close as Jack Smith would 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: get to insurrection. It was again impeding an official government action. 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: And these dissenting judges were saying, listen, I mean, we 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: have a right, you know, to protest. 77 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: We have a First Amendment in our country. 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: We better be very careful about twenty year prison sentences 79 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: when we're going to say that something peds a government's action, 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: that you're gonna go to jail for twenty years. When 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: we are a country that you believes in the First Amendment, 82 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: believes the right to protest, and again, even civil disobedience 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: to some extent that doesn't rise to the level of 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: twenty year criminality. Yep, I was gonna ask you if 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 4: he drops that, that's the biggest charge he made it 86 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: President Trump, I think related to January. 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Sixth, I think it crumbles at that point. 88 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I think these things, a lot of them crumble anyways, 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: but I think that would crumble it. Let me ask 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: you this, Logan, because Logan heads up our media here 91 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: at the ACLJ. The media is fixed on all of 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: these cases. Anything you say, I mean you host, there 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: are radio broadcast and then you said you started the 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: opening with president and former president, and it just like. 95 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course that's what a lot of attention goes 96 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: to for for good or bad. I guess there's people 97 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: who would watch it because they sort of hate watch 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: but the vast majority of people are watching it because 99 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: they want to see justice be served in some ways 100 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: in support of having President Trump on the ballot, really 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: not even just having President Trump on the ballot, but 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: having the ability and the option to exercise who you'd 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: like to vote for and any given election. And I 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: think that's something that we've had that issue with Democrats 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: before too, where you know, they don't see things both ways. 106 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: They don't see how you can, you know, lower the 107 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: bar for impeachment and how that could end up bite 108 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: you back. And now they're seeing what the fruits of 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: their labor are. 110 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: You know. 111 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting though at the same time that when you've 112 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: got the Supreme Court poised in the one case, they 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: haven't decided they're going. 114 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: To take it yet. 115 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: On the actual charge of the interfering with Congress, they 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: said they will expedite no excuse me, the presidential immunity, 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the interfering with Congress. 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: They did take the president of immunity claim. 119 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I argued a similar claim to the Supreme Court of 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: the United States as related to a subpoena that said 121 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: vance this was the then DA in Manhattan. It's the 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: predic seccessor to the current Alvin Bragg. And in that case, 123 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: the court was really closely divided on the level of scrutiny. 124 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Was four or five we wanted heightened scrutiny. Four justices 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: said yes, heightened scrutiny, five said no. Two months later 126 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: Amy called me Barrett's on the court and it would 127 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: have been five for the other way. Yeah, So it 128 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: to me, it's very interesting to see. I think the 129 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: court may well and when they take this say that 130 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: you cannot sue a president, whether it's Trump, Biden, Clinton, Bush, whoever, 131 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: for official actions they took when they were president or else. 132 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Every president when. 133 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: They leave office is subject to every civil lawsuit by 134 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: anybody who disagrees with what they did. 135 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: Well, then we'd get used to a thing where they 136 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: would all start self pardoning themselves. They'd self pardon because 137 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: they that would cover all these federal charges and so 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: then that would take out the DOJ ability. But they 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: really shouldn't have to do that. If you feel like 140 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: they have committed these acts. That is why we have impeachment. 141 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I think that when we look at 142 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: impeachment and listen, the Republicans are doing kind of the 143 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: same thing right now the Democrats did. They voted to 144 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: open an impeachment query, and now they're going home for 145 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: three weeks, right. 146 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: I always think, does that tell you? It always tells me. 147 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: This is a getting back at Joe Biden and the 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: Democrats for what they did to Donald Trump, dragging his 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: name through the bud twice. And they probably, you know what, 150 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: he deserves it because of what they did to Donald 151 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: Trump all the you know, Russia, Russia line from Adam 152 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: Schiff and then they had to switch to Ukraine in 153 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: a phone call from a let's be honest, compromised guy 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: who was working at the NSC who was Ukrainian American 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: who didn't like Donald Trump's policy towards Ukraine because he 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: was trying to prevent more military action from Russia invading 157 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: Ukraine since Obama allowed Russia to invade Crimea and take 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: that over. 159 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Remember that happened again. 160 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: The only time that Russia has invaded Ukraine in the 161 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: last few years has been under the Biden administration and 162 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: under the Obama administration. They didn't take any new land 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: in the Ukraine under the Trump administration. But yet they 164 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: impeached him because he got too close to the Bidens 165 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: and all the firings of the of the prosecutor in Barisma. 166 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: And now we know all of that's very real, I think. 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: So again they deserve a lot of this because they 168 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: cheapened impeachment and they did the same thing Dad. Remember 169 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: they rushed to impeach and then they went they went 170 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: home for three week, so. 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: It was the same thing. 172 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Remember she issued the articles and then never sent him 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: over to the United States Senate for for exactly three 174 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: weeks until January, and. 175 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: Then you wondered to say, is it impeachment because it's 176 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: so bad that they should literally. 177 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Be working on Christmas, even Christmas Day, to protect the country, 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: to protect the country. That's what impeachments really. The statements they. 179 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Made were like, well, I mean, it's we're i gotta 180 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: skipt Christmas. 181 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean it was sort of. 182 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: That's because it's been cheap and and it was cheapened 183 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: by Adam Schiff, and it was cheapened by the House 184 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: Democrats who brought an impeachment after the after President Trump 185 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: was no longer president the United States, an impeachment trial 186 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: that they tried in front of the US Senate without. 187 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: The Chief Justice of the United States. 188 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: Which was I said, with the lack of the Chief 189 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Justice not there, it wasn't an impeachment. 190 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: And Jamie Raskin, constitutional scholar, Democrat, he thought that was 191 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: going to lead to anything when when the the the 192 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court chief Justice wouldn't even oversee it, telling 193 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 4: you right away that he did not. I mean that 194 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: just is very telling that he didn't agree with the 195 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: Raskin's view of the constitution. You can't do this after 196 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: the fact. So the constitution is clear. 197 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: You think the. 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: President's done something wrong while he's president, Congress, you should act. 199 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: You could do it under impeachment. That's all you can 200 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: do after the fact, though two years later, this is 201 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: this is a political law fair and it's disgusting. I 202 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: do think Joe Biden, in a sense deserves it because 203 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 4: he was part of the group encouraging this against Donald Trump. 204 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: So you know what, drag him through it, to drag 205 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: his White House counsel make their life like they made 206 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: our lives. 207 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were. It's not fun. No, we 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: were listen because now they got full subpoena power. Yeah, 209 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: so this is I mean we had this. I mean 210 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: we Jordan and I are giving this deep from personal person. 211 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: By the way, Joe Biden, with full subpoena power, says, 212 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: if you don't comply, you go to jail. Right, So 213 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: any of those White House staff, I'm just gonna be quote, 214 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: I'd be quoting Joe Biden if I was those members 215 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: of Congress, and if they don't comply, I guess they 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: should be arrested and go to jail. 217 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: So here's this is the world we've got right now 218 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: coming into you know, with days before Christmas. 219 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think that you see those statements, it 220 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: is that, like I said, they've trivialized it. 221 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: But do they deserve it. 222 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a discussion that's going 223 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: to now happen about a lot of topics, which is 224 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: they put President Trump through so much stuff. 225 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: When you've put. 226 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: Someone through that amount of scrutiny, and like I said, 227 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: and it's team to that is it? You know, you 228 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: do you turn the other cheek or do you throw 229 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: it right back at their face? 230 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: Well? 231 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: Look, I mean here, here's the thing. When we litigated this, 232 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: and we did litigate all these issues. We litigated the 233 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: immunity issues, we litigated the issues of subpoena power and 234 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: all of this and relevancy and can the Congress subpoena 235 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: your kids? Which they did? I mean, And so it's 236 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: kind of what's happening there is happening again. The problem 237 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: this is now becoming the political norm. But I think 238 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: self induced. When Adam Schift stood up and said all 239 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: that stuff about I've got all the info on Russia, 240 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: I've got it, it is crystal clear. Handscript break transcript. 241 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned that at the floor of the United States 242 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Senate when I was depending the former president, I mentioned 243 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I quoted his fake conversation he had. But they can't 244 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: resist to overshoot every single time. 245 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: No, That's where Republicans need to be careful, is you know, 246 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: if you're going to do this, do it in a 247 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: way that makes the Democrats look that much more foolish. 248 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: So if you're going to open the inquiry, which doesn't 249 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: mean you found that he should be in peace, yet 250 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: really get facts and evidence that would lead American people 251 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: to understand why you would actually vote to impeach and 252 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 4: remove this president, or say, you know what, we can't 253 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: get enough information. But you're gonna have to subpoena to 254 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: the people. And I think they're going to fight all 255 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: those subpoenas, and you're gonna have to quote them back, 256 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: their DOJ back and all their positions back and say 257 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: your position has long been, you don't comply, you go 258 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 4: to jail. 259 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Let me give you a perfect example though, of the 260 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: really the kind of situation you're in. 261 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: So Hunter Biden is going to be subpoena now with 262 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: full subpoena power right now. 263 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: His lawyer is a very good Abbey lul very smart guy, 264 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: friend of mine, very good lawyer. I say, one of 265 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: the top five criminal defense lawyers in the United States. 266 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: He's going to I would have him surt the Fifth Amendment. 267 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what Abby's going to do, but that's 268 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: what I would do. If you were a defense lawyer, 269 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: that's what you would do. 270 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: The question is, if he does not comply with the subpoena, 271 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: is the Department of Justice under Merrick Garland going to 272 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: prosecute the failure to appear? 273 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: And I doubt it. 274 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 4: And you remember, we have to remind everybody that though 275 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Joe Biden said it's criminal and you should be prosecuted 276 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 4: and go to jail, it is not Congress that gets 277 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: to decide that. They can only refer that they could 278 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 4: hold THEOJI tempt, which they say they will with Utter Biden, 279 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: but then it gets referred to DOJ, and DOJ can 280 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: decide not to do anything. 281 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: So if you're just joining us, this is J Secular, 282 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Secular, Logan Seculo and we are pleased to be 283 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: hosting for our friend Sean Hannity. 284 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: We head up the American Center for Law and Justice, 285 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: and we. 286 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Talk about a lot of issues today I do want 287 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: to say also that we really appreciate Sean letting us 288 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: sit in for him. It really gives us a chance 289 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: to talk about the issues that we were involved in, 290 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: heavily involved in in the previous administration. So we know 291 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: what those White House Counsel lawyers are thinking right now. 292 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: Believe me, so we get totally get it. Hey, we've 293 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: got a lot more coming up on the broadcast. Stay tuned, 294 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Call your friends, have them listen to. We want you 295 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: to do that. We've got a lot more ahead. We 296 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: encourage you again. We thank you for thanks Sean and 297 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: all of the team for having us sit in. We'll 298 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: be back in just a moment. 299 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: Sean's gotten more behind the scenes inforration, more contacts than anybody, 300 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 5: more friends, behind the church. Sean Hannity is on on. 301 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Showan Hanny Program. 302 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: This is Jay Secular, Jordan Secular, Logan Secular, the whole 303 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: Secular team subbing in for our friend Sean Hannity. We 304 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: head up the American Center for Law and Justice. We 305 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: talked about in the first segment of the broadcast some 306 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: of the major cases that are going on right now, 307 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: and we're involved in them a lot of them focusing 308 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: on the former president. Jordan and I represented the former 309 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: president while he was president in the Russia. 310 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Muller investigation as well as in the impeachment. 311 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: And for those of you that don't know, the American 312 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Center for Law and Justice organization is legal defense group 313 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: and multimedia operation that has done cases literally all over 314 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the globe. We're working right now representing families of hostages 315 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: in Israel in the. 316 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Current conflict with hamas I. 317 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Jordan and I have been to the International Criminal Court 318 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: in the Hague as it relates to conflicts with the 319 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: United States and conflicts involving Israel. So we've got a 320 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of experience on a lot of the things you're 321 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: seeing in the news right now. We're involved in a 322 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: lot of You have joined the American Center for Law 323 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: and Justice last time we were on, so I want 324 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: to say first to thank you to all of you 325 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: that took the time last time we hosted to join 326 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the American Center for Law and Justice. We're not profit organization. 327 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Any donations you make to the ACLJ are in fact 328 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: tax deductible, and we're in a Faith and Freedom year 329 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: end drive, which means any amount donated that you make 330 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: is going to be matched by somebody else. We gave 331 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: you the list of cases that were involved in and 332 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: then of course your support makes all of this possible 333 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: so that we can provide these legal service. We represent 334 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the whistleblowers, so it's a very broad 335 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: scope of representation. But I just wanted to take a 336 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: moment as we get ready to get into the next 337 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: segment of the broadcast. 338 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: To really talk about with you what we do at 339 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: the ACLJ. 340 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: So if you're interested in supporting or joining the work 341 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: at the American Center for Law and Justice, all you 342 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: need to do is go over to ACLJ dot org. 343 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: You'll see a button right there. 344 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: It says donate now, and when you donate, you become 345 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: a member and that's five dollars, ten dollars, whatever it is, 346 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: and it'll be matched and we really appreciate you doing it. 347 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: Again. 348 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: That's ACLJ dot org. We also have a movie's out. 349 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: We only got thirty second we'll talk more about in 350 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: a moment. Shan's the executive producer with you on it. 351 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: That's right, brand new movie Jingle Smells, available at jingle 352 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: Smells dot Movie Big Family Christmas comedy with a lot 353 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: of heart and a lot of good messages. And Againdia 354 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: Sean's secutive producer, and it's in the movie. 355 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: So take a lot, a lot of about the cancelation culture. 356 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: So we got a lot to talk about. 357 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Coming back up, talk more about the movie when we 358 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: come back up to I think people really. 359 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Want to know. 360 00:16:19,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more of the Sean Hannity Program. 361 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: At nine pm. Do you know where your president is? 362 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: I don't know. 363 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 364 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: He sounded asleep in his bed with not a care 365 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: in the world. Must be nice, Joe. The rest of 366 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: it as well. Keep working. You're on the Sean Hannity Show. 367 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. Seculo 368 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: is in here for you, Jay Jordan n Logan. We 369 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: had mentioned just briefly before we took the last breaking 370 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: last segment that we've done something very different at the 371 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: ACLJ this year and produced for the first time a 372 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: full when we've done movies before, but not more like documentaries. 373 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: And we partnered with Sean Hannity, who actually makes an 374 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: appearance in the movie. 375 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: Multiple appearances. 376 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we may have a brand new movie called Jingle 377 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: Smells you may have heard it on this show before. 378 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: We have John Schneider, our star later in the broadcast 379 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: to discuss his role in this big I said, big 380 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: Christmas Comedies, we say, with a lot of heart and 381 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: a lot of humor. Really great for the whole family 382 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: to watch together or separately. It's not a kids movie, 383 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: but it's a movie that can be enjoyed by everyone. 384 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Including Scott's. 385 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: An incredible cast John Schneider, as we said, Sean Hannity 386 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: is executive producer and also makes an appearance, but multiple 387 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: appearances throughout. You got Big Davies, who may know from 388 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: his time in a lot of faith based movies. War 389 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: Rumor courageously also is a producer. Over at the Daily Wire. 390 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: For Michael Knowles, you got James Storm and Dell Apostle 391 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: or pro wrestlers who are do amazing job. And then 392 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: for comedy Wise, because it is a big Christmas comedy, 393 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 3: something that we feel like was desperately missing, we have 394 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: Jim Brewer, Victoria Jackson from Sunday Night Live, brad Stein, 395 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 3: Christian comedian. Really an amazing cast and a great script 396 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 3: that was put together and it is available right now 397 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: at a discounted rate for the weeks leading here on Christmas. 398 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: Right now, it is available on the domain is Jingle 399 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: Smells Dot Movie. That's the domain you can find the 400 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: three options to stream it today. It is on Rumble, 401 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: it is on Voodoo which is owned by Fandango. Likely 402 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: you have that on your television or on your smart device, 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: and then there are DVDs also available through John Schneider. 404 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: But you can find all of those really simple. There's 405 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: just three big buttons on Jingle Smells Dot Movie. Millions 406 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: of you have watched the trailer, so many of you 407 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: have supported it, and we are really trying to make 408 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: this the number one Christmas movie of the year because 409 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: it's not only hilarious and heartwarming, it's also sitting a 410 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: message to Hollywood that we're not going to put up 411 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: with the content they're putting in front of your families. 412 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: So with this, like we said, it's safe for everybody 413 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: to watch, but also is packed with our messages and 414 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: the messages that this audience is going to care about. 415 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away like key lines. Okay, 416 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: so don't I if I'm getting into the danger, But 417 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: it deals a lot with canceled culture. Yeah, deals a 418 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: lot with the military it deals. There's a faith component 419 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: to it absolutely and at the same time it's extremely uplifting. 420 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: And what's missing in Hollywood right now to me is 421 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: being able to address an issue like cancel culture from 422 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: our perspective. 423 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: From our perspective, it's sort of a satirical nature. You 424 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: know that one of the main characters is a big 425 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrity who named Mason Stone, who gets canceled because 426 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: he goes on a video message saying online on social media, 427 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 3: makes a post and says God bless America and may 428 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: he protect our troops while he's on a hunting trip. 429 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: And what happens is the you know, the social. 430 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: Media activist world freak out, including starring Victoria Jackson, who 431 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: plays a hysterical sort of limbs of TikTok style angry 432 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: person who is just great in it. And with that, 433 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: his toys because he's a big Hollywood action star, get 434 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: pulled from the shelves. 435 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: And when they get pulled from the shells, what happens 436 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: to them? They are yeah, no, I can tell you. 437 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: This is the concept of the movie. The reason is 438 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: called Jingle Smells is then on the other side, there 439 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: is a war veteran who just come back from the Afghanistan, 440 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: which are all following some hard times, played by Ben Davies, 441 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: and he has to get a job after some stint 442 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: in and out of jail with some his dad's old 443 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: army buddies who are garbage men in the area, and 444 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: with that they get assigned to get these toys and 445 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: to destroy them. And you can imagine what these guys 446 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: have good heart decide to do, and it cut down 447 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: and becomes a Santa Claus slash Robin Hood style adventure. 448 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: Very fun and again touches on a lot of the 449 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: topics they're important here, and not in a way that's preachy, 450 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: in a way that will open up discussion. If you 451 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: have sort of you know, maybe middle school age kids, 452 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: so they may ask you some questions. 453 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: Which is good. 454 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: And if you have little kids, they just love it. 455 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna love it. The message, the political side of it, 456 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: or the social commentary may go over their heads, and 457 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: that's okay because really, at the end of the day, 458 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: it's just a really great movie. And we decided to 459 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: one of the main things we decided was we got 460 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: an option uh and look very thankful for these people 461 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: who came and said, hey, we'd love to give you 462 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: guys a theatrical run. And we thought about it really 463 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: long and hard because obviously as a filmmaker and someone 464 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: executive producer of this and one of the co writers 465 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: with this movie and really was, you know, leading the charge. 466 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: We had a great director and a great DP who 467 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: really did a great job as well. But you know, 468 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: we were really focused on how we're going to get 469 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: this to market. And they came to usaid, we want 470 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: to put this in theaters. And that same week I 471 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: took my kids to see a movie. In between me 472 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: and my wife are kids and just the food, popcorn, drinks, ices, 473 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: you know, all that stuff ended up being close to 474 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: two hundred dollars real and I thought, I can't justify this. 475 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: I can't currently justify this for a different movie maybe 476 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: down the road, but for Jingle Smells, a big Christmas comment. 477 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: Couldn't do it. 478 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: So we decided to release it at an introductory rate. 479 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: It is available right now though, on a Christmas sale 480 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: on Voodoo and Rubble, both at fourteen ninety nine to 481 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: buy it. 482 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: You could do that right now. 483 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: Obviously, Rumble is incredible there the free speech platform it's awesome. 484 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: Were the first feature film they've ever released that wasn't 485 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: a documentary. But then obviously there's Vodoo as well, which 486 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: Voodoo is a really a big mainstream platform, and it 487 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: shows you there are still mainstream platforms that will put 488 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: up movies like ours, and that's pretty cool. And the 489 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: DVD is also available on our website. 490 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: You know. 491 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: It's also interesting about this when you'd say the kind 492 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: of the thematic is the cancel culture. There was a 493 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: case and I think it was Ohio this week where 494 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: a fire department moved its Nativity scene which had been 495 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: there for fifteen years, and they moved it and it's 496 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: been resolved now, but they moved it just because they 497 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: got a letter from the Freedom from Religion Foundation talk 498 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: about cancel culture. 499 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. 500 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: Then contacted us to say did we actually have to 501 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 4: move this? So now there's a question about they moved 502 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: it without contacting us first, so it makes it a. 503 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: Little now back. It's now back. They may have back 504 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: back to the fire station. 505 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: So Religit Foundation, if they are going to file a 506 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: lawsuit again, we are going to be ready to represent 507 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: the town if they want to be represented. At no 508 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: cost to them, and they're going to have meetings. We 509 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: have a great contact who is very close to the 510 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: mayor there. The people are very supportive of keeping this 511 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: a nativity scene outside the firehouse. But the big issue 512 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: with all of these cases is that you've got to 513 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: convince the city council that the ACLJ is for real, 514 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: we're going to represent you at no cost, and they're 515 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: just not used to dealing with attorneys that tell them that. 516 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's because of people like you. Many of 517 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: you have joined from Shohn's broadcast, which we really appreciate. 518 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: At ACLJA dot Organizs. We said we're in a faith 519 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in Freedom drive, which means any amount you donate is 520 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: matched at ten dollars fifty whatever it is, and it's 521 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: tax deductible. 522 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: So we appreciate that. 523 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: And we expanded out when we went into the movie Realm, 524 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: and that was something new we did. 525 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're alway trying to figure out how to get 526 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: our message out there. And look, we've gotten some really 527 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: incredible feedback from people who've watched this movie are very 528 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: pleased do with it. We're getting great reviews from that, 529 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: and of course we're getting bad reviews from the people 530 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: that you'd expect that, but you know exactly, they're not 531 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: watching this movie. You're just triggering them. And that's pretty fun, now, 532 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: would that beg said? I'm gonna ask a couple things 533 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: of this audience, nuverer one. I'm going to ask you 534 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: first to please obviously go buy and read this movie 535 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: where they need Jingle Smells Dot movie portions of the 536 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: proceeds go back to the A C. 537 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: LJA. 538 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: You support all of us, honestly, everyone you've heard on 539 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: this broadcast, it really does matter, so please do that. 540 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm also gonna ask you because we've noticed this. You know, 541 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: a platform like Rumble is not available everywhere around the world. 542 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 3: There are a lot of countries that have banned Rumble 543 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: for being a free speech platform. We have seen these 544 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: sort of one star negative review bombs come in guess 545 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: what not from America? And where can you only see 546 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: the movie right now? The United States of America. 547 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: But these are people from quote England, who. 548 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: Are from England, who are upset about the fact that 549 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 3: we're on Rumble really is what it is, and they're 550 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: upset with the fact that Sean Handedy's name is attached 551 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: to it and that our names are attached to it. 552 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you this. 553 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: The only place right now to review the movie is 554 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: either through IMDb and maybe Ron Tomatoes. But I believe 555 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: IMDb and we are seeing that review bomb happening on there. 556 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: I don't even really care. 557 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: Doesn't bother me at all. But what I can say is, 558 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: if you like this movie, go on there and give 559 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: it a ten star review. If you don't like it, 560 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: just don't, but go on there and give it a 561 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: ten star. Write us a nice review, because we've seen this, 562 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: because the message is getting out there, and because Hollywood 563 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: is scared of movies like ours. They're scared. Why are 564 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 3: they well for a couple of reasons. One, we did 565 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: this completely independently. We did this away from their system completely. 566 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: So when you're able to do that, you're able to 567 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: break away. That's not good for them. They don't like 568 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: the fact that you could make some waves from doing 569 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: something independently and on your own, doing a deal with rumble, 570 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: doing a deal with companies that don't have the red tape, 571 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: or you know the imagined lot of times I've released 572 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: a film and they end up charging you tens of 573 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars for ridiculous fees. I've always said this, 574 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: which is, you know, you have a movie like an 575 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: Indiana Jones that came out this summer. The movie made 576 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty million dollars at the box office 577 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: and it lost money. 578 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, another one of the big socials conservative movies 579 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: did the same thing. Now according to their star, it 580 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: was that it came out and not a lot. 581 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just the truth. There's a lot 582 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: of red tape that goes on in Hollywood. What we 583 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: were able to do with this movie and hopefully moving forward, 584 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: is show that you can kind of circumvent that. Obviously 585 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: if you buy it through rubble or you buy it 586 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: through voodoo or through the DVD. Of course is that 587 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: are course going to go to the people providing it 588 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: as it should, but you don't have to do all 589 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: of this craziness, and you certainly don't have to put 590 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: up with We got to produce the movie we wanted, 591 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: with the you know, with the dialogue we wanted. No 592 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: one told us what we could edit, or what we 593 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: had to do or had to say, or who to cast. 594 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: We were able to put together this great movie and 595 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: it was during a lot of the Hollywood strikes because 596 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: a lot of people wanted to work. I mean a 597 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: lot our crew, you know, Daniel Lesko, our director, and 598 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: all this a lot of crew came from the fact 599 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: that all of a sudden had no work. 600 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: There was no work and get a whole industry. 601 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: People always think about the stars, and they think about 602 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: the studios, but they don't think about the what they 603 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 3: call it the below, the line workers. The guys who 604 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: were working crafts are of us or camera or or 605 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: you know, drivers, and little things that you don't think 606 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: of it are play such a huge part of making 607 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: these movies. Those are the people that really hurt during 608 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: the strikes. So we were able to come in, make 609 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: this movie, get it out in record time, and tell 610 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: a story that is amazing and is beautiful and all 611 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: wrapped in a big kids or family Christmas comedy that 612 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: your kids can watch, your grandkids can watch. And again, 613 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: every time you make that purchase, it's not just about 614 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: telling us they're watching a great movie. Is about sending 615 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: a message to Hollywood that this can be the number 616 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: one Christmas movie in the country, and that would be 617 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: a wild thing to do and. 618 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: Not produced by Hollywood. Interesting. John Hannity's executive producer. Actually 619 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: in the first scene he is he's the first voice 620 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: you hear and one of the last. Yes. Yeah, he 621 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: kind of. 622 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: Book ends it, and he's also somewhat in the middle 623 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: as well, so you have him in there quite a 624 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: few times, and a band appearance Jay Secular Bands and 625 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: Jordan's in it. 626 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm in it. 627 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: Our whole families are in it as well as again 628 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: that also our cast as well as just incredible actor 629 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: who you may not know their names, but they are 630 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: willing to work. There are people that were willing to work. 631 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: It was a very exciting time to make this movie 632 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: and we hope it becomes a Christmas classic you watch 633 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: year and year and if you buy it, by the way, yes, 634 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: Rumble you own it on Voodoo. Yeah, you have access 635 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: to the stream for as a one time rental thing. No, no, 636 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: there is on Voodoo a rental option, but for Rumble, 637 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: which will encourage you to do Rumble and Voodo, you 638 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: can also make a purchase when you do that. I know, 639 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: even Rumble says PPV like pay per view, that's just 640 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: what they call their service, but it's actually not perview. 641 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: It is in perpetuity. You have it as long as 642 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: we have it up there. It's available, so you spend 643 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: the right now. The discounted Christmas rate wasn' ninety nine nine. 644 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: We've dropped it down to fourteen ninety nine for the 645 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: week leading into Christmas and is available right now. DVDs 646 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: are available also still for Christmas, and John Shneiner will 647 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: talk about those and he'll even sign them for you 648 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: if you want. 649 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: There you go. So it's Jingles movie. This resources are 650 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: going back to ALJ. Yeah. 651 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: People hear a movie and they think big production. Is 652 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: this really going to benefit what I care about the 653 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: ACLJ and logan? It absolutely does not. The movie that 654 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: tells the story of like an ACLJ situation. But then 655 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: the actual dollars that come in, those dollars are gonna 656 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: primarily come into the American Center for Law Justice. 657 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm watching the numbers go up right 658 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: now and we're able to see it right now. I 659 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: mean number nine hundred and fifty thousand of you. I've 660 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: watched the trailer on Rumble, which is amazing people, and 661 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: then so many more have watched it on all the 662 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: other platforms and in Shawn's platforms as well. And I 663 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: have to thank Sean and really Linda and the entire 664 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: team who've put together such an amazing plan. So I 665 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: want to thank all of them as this movie rolls out. 666 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: Obviously it's ten days till Christmas, so you got ten 667 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: days to really, I mean, you can watch as long 668 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: as you look. People watch Christmas movies all year long. 669 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: There are twenty four hour Christmas networks. And guess what, 670 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: Hollywood is taking notice. We're already getting offers for some 671 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: of those you networks and streamers for future years because 672 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: they are seeing what can be done outside of the 673 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 3: Hollywood system. 674 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Jingle smells dot movie folks, I want to encourage you 675 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: to go and get that movie again. It's Availab on Rumble. 676 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: You'll see it on Voodoo also DVD. We really encourage 677 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: you to do it. Coming back from the break, we're 678 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about some legislation that's. 679 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: Going on that you're gonna want to know about. 680 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: Back in a moment, Firing torpedoes of truth at a 681 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: wall of lies. 682 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: This is the Sean Hannity Show. They want to make 683 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: this Sean Hannity program. 684 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: By the way, this bumper music you're hearing is done 685 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: by my band and we appreciate it. By the way, 686 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: end of the year, there'll be a concert on New 687 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Just go to ACLJ on Facebook. Rumble our 688 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: prefer provider YouTube too, right logan yes yeah YouTube also yep, 689 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: all right, we started the program and I want to 690 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of reset it what we send the first hour. 691 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of activity at the Supreme Court 692 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: of the United States right now as it relates to 693 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: the former president. Two cases, one of which is a 694 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: total was surprising they took, which was emanating out of 695 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: January sixth. It's also the basis upon which that whole 696 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: indictment rests. 697 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 4: It's the obstructing and official procedure, and that takes with 698 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: it twenty years in prison. And so what these descenters 699 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: have looked at as the case moved on is how 700 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: this could squeltz the ability to protest freedom of speech, 701 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: freedom of assembly that we have in the US Constitution, 702 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: Because who is really going to be the arbiter over 703 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: when does it cross the line as or are we 704 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: just going to say we know it what it does. 705 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: Because I don't love those standards either day say oh 706 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: you'll know obscenity because you know, you see it. But 707 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: then the world changes and words that were seen twenty 708 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: years ago are got to become normal now, or words 709 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: that already even used any because they were so ubseved 710 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 4: so a disgusting to get offensive the way they described 711 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: your group. 712 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: So I get what I think is unique? Is it? 713 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: Remember this is the same prosecutor who brought all the 714 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: charges against Bob McDonald try to ruin his life, and 715 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: at the US Supreme Court, Bob McDonald beat. 716 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: Jack Smith nine to zero. 717 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Let me tell you who else be Jacksmith, those Republicans 718 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: and Democrats John Edwards he won, So you look at 719 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Bob Menendez, he won. So Jack Smith, the prosecutor tends 720 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: to overcharge just just the way he does things. And 721 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the ACLJ is involved in these cases. We argue the 722 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: predecessor cases at the Supreme Court of the United States before. 723 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: So this is not our first rodeo on these cases. 724 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: So we encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ. 725 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Great day for you to join the ACLJ, just go 726 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: to ACLJ dot org. Coming up, we're gonna be talking 727 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: about some additional legislative moves where were joined by our 728 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: friend and colleague Grick Grenell back with more in a 729 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: moment