WEBVTT - Hour 1 - (07-16-20

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one on

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<v Speaker 1>this Thursday, Dan and the Danet's Stan Patrick Show. Morale

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<v Speaker 1>is high except for one part of the man cave

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<v Speaker 1>back where mclovin sits. You've got a serious look on

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<v Speaker 1>your face after the display that Ethan, our stats guy,

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<v Speaker 1>put on yesterday. Are you okay? Yeah? I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>rattled by Ethan and Firtill. He's not from Philadelphia, can

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<v Speaker 1>we He's from Willington, Delaware, which is a suburb of Philadelia,

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia proper. Yeah, it's Eagles country. Yeah, it's definitely an

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<v Speaker 1>issue here. Like I'm looking at him. I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>you some stats, a man. Are you're officially from Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>from the suburbs? Yeah? Yeah, well I guess so. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's an interesting question. Are you officially from Cincinnati? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say that because people don't know where Mason,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio is. So when I say that, I'll be Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>since night proper. But I'm not in a feud with anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a rivalry with anybody right now. Where

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<v Speaker 1>does Ethan sand on all this like I couldn't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan just does his job. He just sends stats in

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes most of the time, I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything to him, just say something on the air

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<v Speaker 1>and he sends it to me. Is there any point

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<v Speaker 1>where they're gonna be just too many stats that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be overwhelmed with this? Are you cool? I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to be drunk with stats. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened? And how many years have we been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this together? A lot? Yeah? Well, now you have accurate stats.

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<v Speaker 1>Due true, You're right, I've been drunk with stats, just

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<v Speaker 1>not accurate ones. All right, welcome to the program, already

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<v Speaker 1>from the bubble. We'll join us as well. Eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven three D P show email address DP at dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick dot com. Oh Ethan sending me some stats here

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't even asked for them yet. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to those coming up. There are certain sports arguments that

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<v Speaker 1>just don't go away for serious NFL fans. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger ones is should you pay a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>How much should you pay an elite running back? The

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<v Speaker 1>Titans signed Derrick Henry yesterday four year, fifty million dollar deal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was great last season, led the Titans to the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC Title Game. But the argument goes, by the time

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<v Speaker 1>you pay a running back, they're usually on the downside.

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<v Speaker 1>This has always been my philosophy. If I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>draft somebody, they're twenty two years of age and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to use a first round pick, I'm using you

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<v Speaker 1>up for five years, and then by the time you're

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<v Speaker 1>turning twenty seven. By the time turning twenty eight, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already thinking about your replacement. And you're finding a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these rosters have dual threats. Remember what the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>had with Alvin Kamara, And you know that you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to have mark ingram in there. So you have this

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<v Speaker 1>one two punch inside outside. You know, that's how Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry started. Where you have inside outside. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to look around the league. Look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Browns got Kareem Hunt and they got

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb. That's pretty impressive. Look what the Colts did

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. They have Marlon Mack. They went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got Jonathan Taylor, two thousand yard Russia out of Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the trend that you have. So how much

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<v Speaker 1>do you spend? Christian McCaffrey, Levyon Bell, David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the top five guys salary wise, and Henry

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<v Speaker 1>currently ranks fifth in yearly average salary for running backs guys,

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Amara, McCaffrey, Bell, john and Zeke Elliott. Henry

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<v Speaker 1>just turned twenty six. Titans are built to succeed with

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry as their star. Now you might look at

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<v Speaker 1>this and go, he didn't. He was a starter at

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama one year and then he came into the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't get a ton of carries. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>did get a ton of carries last year, a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of carries that style. Now, if you said he was

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<v Speaker 1>a three year starter at Alabama and was carrying two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty times the first couple of years in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, I would shy away from that. But can

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<v Speaker 1>I get at least three more quality years out of him?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can, and you were that close to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, going to the FC title game, you're

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<v Speaker 1>banking on Mike Vrabel having another quality team, quality season

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<v Speaker 1>this year. But should you pay running backs? As a

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<v Speaker 1>close cousin of the system quarterback debate? The kind of

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<v Speaker 1>discussion that raises interesting football questions but kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>you it sound like a nerd. But Derrick Henry seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's happy and Tennessee should be happy as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like one of those deals where you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and we always look at deals and go, oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>got less than he didn't set a record for running backs. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that was a failed negotiation. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at it differently. I think you got to look at

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things here. You got to look at

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<v Speaker 1>COVID now, what is happening here with the NFL, the

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty with the NFL and the salary cap in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, it might go twenty to thirty million dollars less.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had a source tell this to Yahoo Sports.

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<v Speaker 1>The salary cap may drop twenty to thirty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's why Patrick Mahomes signed. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to Dak Prescott in a moment. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>start to look at the free agency class of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, so he's gonna if they tagged him and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't sign the long term deal. Now he's competing

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<v Speaker 1>against Joe Mixon in Cincinnati, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook, James Connor, Philip Lindsay in Denver. I think

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<v Speaker 1>getting the guaranteed money, he likes it. There. They feature him,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you talk about guys who break big, big runs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the biggest running back in the NFL. Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 1>has more fifty yard runs than any other running back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great deal for Derrick Henry. He's

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with it. He got guaranteed money, the uncertainty of

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<v Speaker 1>the next season, and Tennessee has their guy that they

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<v Speaker 1>can hand the ball to twenty five times. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>where Pro Football Focus had a stat Actually it's a

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<v Speaker 1>list of the most elusive running backs in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb, I think Nick chubbs, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>short list of most underrated players in the game. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know when he and Sony Michelle we're sharing time

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<v Speaker 1>in college and now he's sharing time with Kareem Hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Nick Chubb is great, not good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's great. Josh Jacobs out of Alabama with the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>is ranked second. Derek Hennery is third on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>Alvin Kamara is a fourth, Dalvin Cooked fifth, Austin Eckler

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<v Speaker 1>with the Chargers is sixth, se Quon Barkley seventh, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Carson with the Seahawks is eight. This according to a

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. Devin single Terry, who I love with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills. I don't know how good he is, but

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<v Speaker 1>that dude never stops ever. Aaron Jones with the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>had an unbelievable season last year. James Conner featured back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Christian McCaffrey is thirteenth on this list. If I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get these running backs for the same price,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you take Christian McCaffrey out of it, because

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<v Speaker 1>he did have great numbers, although I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>those a number does really mean anything at the position.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you want somebody who's going to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and producing, but what are you really producing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers. You know, McCaffrey's an anomaly in a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of ways. But is he Let's say you could

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<v Speaker 1>get McCaffrey or Derrick Henry for the same price, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still going to take Christian McCaffrey. Probably so, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I take him out. What about if I say sae

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<v Speaker 1>Quon Barkley or Derek Derrick Henry, who are you taking?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing people would probably look at sa Quon Barkley

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<v Speaker 1>because of his ability to uh, you know, catch balls

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<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield. I don't have many catches Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry had last year. I don't know if they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make him a little bit more of a dual

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<v Speaker 1>threat there, McLevin, if you could check that, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan can eighteen receptions last year? Okay, by way, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so side, I'm look at his hats. Derek Kenny has

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<v Speaker 1>way more carries in his career than McCaffrey already, unless

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<v Speaker 1>I have McCaffrey, because McCaffrey has like those dual touches.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a million touches, but they're split evenly between

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<v Speaker 1>receiving and running. Yeah, but look at the carries he

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<v Speaker 1>had in college. That's true. Yeah, good Chrisian McCaffrey had

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of carries. All these guys everyone you just

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<v Speaker 1>met said so much wear and tear already. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay any of them. Well, that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to Zeke Elliott. Like, I didn't understand that at all,

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<v Speaker 1>unless Jerry thought, you know what, he's playing great and

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<v Speaker 1>then they overpaid him. He had his holdout and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know. I think you've seen the best of

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke Elliott, and granted you got to see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of greatness out of Zeke Elliott. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now a quarterback league and you've turned it over.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like, well sort of, to Dak Prescott, there

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<v Speaker 1>were late night negotiat or late afternoon negotiations because the

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<v Speaker 1>deadline was for Eastern yesterday, and Jane Slater, who was

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<v Speaker 1>with US yesterday on loan from the NFL Network, covers

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys said they tried to get something done. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand that you don't talk from and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hurry up right at the deadline. This should have

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<v Speaker 1>been done. I had a great source who told me

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<v Speaker 1>when Zeke was getting his deal done, Dak was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get his deal done in late August going into I

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<v Speaker 1>think the first regular season game, said get ready, Dak's

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<v Speaker 1>going to sign as well. And then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden we stretched it out. The most talked about story

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history and it continues and it'll continue this

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<v Speaker 1>entire season. Did the Cowboys make the right decision? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they really want Dak Prescott? Dak's betting on himself again?

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<v Speaker 1>Did Dak ask for more money than he deserved? You

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<v Speaker 1>could have signed Dak Prescott for the same money, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>told as Russell Wilson. And what did Rusk get for

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<v Speaker 1>for one forty Is it something like that? You could

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten Dak Prescott for that, And now what's he

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<v Speaker 1>going to cost you? And I mean, Jerry knows that

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<v Speaker 1>you know I built this team. We can win now.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta win now. I want one more super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to prove that I can win a Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl again. And you could have signed Dak Prescott and

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<v Speaker 1>been done with this and got a bargain, and now

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<v Speaker 1>here you go, and now you have an offense where

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<v Speaker 1>you use your first round pick on Ceedee Lamb. You're

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<v Speaker 1>throwing the football this year. He's gonna put up big

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<v Speaker 1>numbers again, but you tag him again one more time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I thought. That's what I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done in the first place. If I'm not sure on

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott, then i would have tagged him. I'll tag

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<v Speaker 1>him again next year. But I got the feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys weren't completely sold on Dak Prescott. They wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see another season. They saw the season Dak bett on himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys now have to pay the bill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Pauling any chance of Cowboys are being really smart here.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically renting Dak Prescott and giving it one more Lookxie.

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<v Speaker 1>And also with the salary cap coming up, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes time to be in this position next year, the

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<v Speaker 1>cap could be less and they could be in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where they can get him for less. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a distinct possibility, but I think if that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>they accidentally fell into that because they weren't banking on

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<v Speaker 1>a COVID nineteen pandemic, that's going to reduce the salary

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<v Speaker 1>camp by twenty to thirty million dollars. And you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a guy who you bring in, Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And unless Mike McCarthy is not sold on Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 1>Like privately, I don't know, but I would think you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking the job and the first thing you ask is

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<v Speaker 1>who's my quarterback? That's what coaches do. Who's the quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>Does the owner love that quarter like Ron Rivera goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington. Daniel Snyder is the one who said we're

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<v Speaker 1>drafting Dwayne Haskins, so you know you have that quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. You know, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>into the Cleveland Browns situation, Kevin Stefanski, Okay, who's my quarterback? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner wanted Baker Mayfield, so you know he's there

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while. This is what happens. Who's my quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>And can I succeed with him? But the Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>situation I just think handled poorly by Jerry Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Do I think he overplayed his hand a little bit? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because I think he's an average quarterback from the

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint of he can be great and he can be very,

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<v Speaker 1>very suspect. And if you average it out, you're an

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight team, that probably makes your quarterback average

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And I can't have the highs and lows there.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as I like Dak Prescott would love if

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<v Speaker 1>he was the quarterback for my team, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't have the fluctuation of good Dak bad Dak, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would concern me long term. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are doing another drive by with it. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just see how he does again, bets on himself.

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<v Speaker 1>We can always tag him again, just like Washington did

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<v Speaker 1>with Kirk d Cousins. But I think it's a missed

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for both sides. Maybe it's strategic with the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's strategic with Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott needs

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys too. The Cowboys certainly need Dak Prescott now,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dak Prescott needs the Cowboys. It's an offense. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback of America's team. You're gonna get indorsement, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get ten million dollars in endorsements probably each year

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<v Speaker 1>by being the Cowboys starting quarterback. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>add that value into this because if he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>another team, you never have this marketing ability when you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're the quarter When you think of Boys quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny White, we still remember you got Romo for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Aikman. Troy Aikman can live off being a former

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy quarterback the rest of his life. Roger Staubach, even

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Morton, Don Meredith, we know who the cowboy quarterbacks are.

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<v Speaker 1>Babe Loffenberg, Yeah, Polly. Tony Romo got a huge broadcasting

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<v Speaker 1>job as his first job out without a Super Bowl ring.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this industry, a super Bowl ring kind of

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<v Speaker 1>buys you an audition at ESPN or CBS, Fox, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't have one, like Rodney Harrison. Rodney

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<v Speaker 1>Harris is a very good player. Having a ring sure

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<v Speaker 1>helps him get a look. See by NBC and look

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<v Speaker 1>at Tony Romo, very good quarterback. But he's not Dan Marino. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if Rodney doesn't have super Bowls, Rodney's not doing Football

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<v Speaker 1>Night in America. I mean that helps open the door

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<v Speaker 1>because now when you speak, you can speak from authority

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<v Speaker 1>of hey played in a Super Bowl, Hey one Super bowls,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey I was part of this team, this dynasty, this franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>that defense. Uh but yeah, you're right, all right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>come up with the poll question, right McLevin? Or should

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you? If you should definitely ask yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have all these running back questions. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>you were you kind of ruined my Alvin Kamara party

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought he was gonna be the next guy

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<v Speaker 1>to get paid. That I looked up as numbers. They

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<v Speaker 1>definitely went down last Yeah, I said that too. You

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<v Speaker 1>than I thought when he was with mark Ingram that

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<v Speaker 1>they got a lot of attention because they had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this power back and then you had the

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<v Speaker 1>elusive back. I don't know if he gets enough touches. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he heard his knee last year, which is another issue,

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<v Speaker 1>like why you need the two guys because some guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get more wear and tear, are just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>break down. Ethan just sent me a number. Um Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry is the first player in NFL history. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>started to mention before the commercial break. Thanks to Ethan,

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<v Speaker 1>our new stats guy, Derrick Henry is the first player

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history to rush for at least four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards as a rookie and then increase that number by

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<v Speaker 1>at least forty percent in each of the next three seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He had four ninety as a rookie, seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty four is second year one thousand and fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen, and last year rush for fifteen forty.

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<v Speaker 1>This might be one of those deals that we always

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<v Speaker 1>want to win ern a loser, who won, who lost.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing that with Dak Prescott, with Derrick Henry. I

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<v Speaker 1>think both sides won. I think both sides got what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. You got that running back you can count on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would like to expand the number of

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<v Speaker 1>touches so it's not just him powering ahead, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going into these defense because those running backs don't last.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie George was like that. Earl Campbell was like that,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go straight. Brandon Jacobs played for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the biggest running backs. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest running back I ever saw. We met him

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<v Speaker 1>at a Super Bowl and we all walked away going

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a running back. Brandon Jacobs was the same

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<v Speaker 1>size as Michael Strahan, and that's no exaggeration. He might

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<v Speaker 1>have been bigger than Michael Strahan inch shorter, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was bigger. And then he ran a certain way, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he got paid and then he ran differently. Then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you start protecting. You know, players

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<v Speaker 1>will talk about and you run to get the contract,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you run differently after you've gotten the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that doesn't happen with Derrick Enring because I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching him play. I like when guys give the

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<v Speaker 1>impression they want to tackle him, but they really don't

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<v Speaker 1>because you go, oh, this is gonna hurt. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>defensive backs, defensive players doing that with Adrian Peterson. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really want to tackle him, but she sort of

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<v Speaker 1>had to at least try. And Derrick Henry he puts,

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<v Speaker 1>he puts the fear of God, I think in some

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<v Speaker 1>of those defensive players. And he's an elusive back, which

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think of a powerback being. And I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>for him when we saw him at the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a wonderful kid. I really enjoyed talking to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Good sense of humor, and I hope you know he

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<v Speaker 1>gets that opportunity to continue doing what he's doing, what

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<v Speaker 1>he did the last two years with Tennessee. Yes, PAULI,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at Derrick Henry's strategy, he basically got

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five million over the next three years guaranteed. He

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<v Speaker 1>cannot not get it. Yeah, if you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Levon Bell, he skipped a season, lost sixteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it up by getting a two year basically

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<v Speaker 1>a guarantee contract of twenty seven million front of Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the only team. The Jets kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bailed him out. Otherwise his strategy was not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>He was well, we factor in the third year, the

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<v Speaker 1>year that he sat out. So over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>three years, Levion Bell will make twenty seven million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>including the season he sat out, Yeah, which is two

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<v Speaker 1>million more than Derrick Henry's gonna make. Derrick Henry didn't

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<v Speaker 1>threaten to sit out. Melvin Gordon threatened to sit out

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<v Speaker 1>and did, and he's gonna make thirteen million dollars over

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<v Speaker 1>that three year period. I remember them when he sat out,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this isn't gonna work out well. With the Chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>he got paid, Okay, Yeah, but he made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he did, and now he's with Denver and they

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<v Speaker 1>already have a running back, Philip Lindsay. So you're sharing

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<v Speaker 1>time there, Jeff and Saint Louis joins us. Hey, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today? Good morning? Then good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get it. Jerry Jones is at the billion Era.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys, you're not adding Mike on Why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you take a step back and look with the m

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<v Speaker 1>did with Todd Gurley and the same thing's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>with Ezekiel Elliott. That's my opinion. You see how that's

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<v Speaker 1>totally messed up. Oh I know, but we're down the

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<v Speaker 1>road on that. Thank you, Jeff, Because I wouldn't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on record as saying I wouldn't have resigned Zeke Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think you can find running backs, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>really looking for a couple of running backs to do

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different things. Now, if you find, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone like Christian McCaffrey, good luck with that, or Alvin Kamara.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I look at the Cleveland Browns. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they got Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb, and you're hard

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<v Speaker 1>pressed to find a better backfield than those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>and the versatility. Kareem Hunt's great out of the backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick Chubb is solid. He just is, He's you

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<v Speaker 1>can play. I would have gone to Nick Chubb more

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't like what was going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>offense with Baker Mayfield and trying to play Kate Odell

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham Junior. I would have been a more run first

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<v Speaker 1>offense if I could take some of the pressure off

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield. And Nick Chubb had that ability. But people

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<v Speaker 1>forget that he split time with Sony Michelle at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think Sony Michelle started and Nick Chubb

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<v Speaker 1>came in. He started the national title game. Yes, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a third and DeAndre Swift. There was one other guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah crow not Crowell. I think Crowell, I think had

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer. They had so many running backs there. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy named Crowell and the Browns had Gurley

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<v Speaker 1>was also there? Was he before? Just before? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>he was right? Yeah, I mean, what is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia. Well, Isaiah Crowell was with the Browns. But

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<v Speaker 1>was he was he at Georgia? I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember him at Georgia it's not a bad uh audience. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start to think of running backs, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what what university produces I'm talking about today because you've

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<v Speaker 1>had different running backs. Nebraska had those, you know, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Rogier and I Hip and they had quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>guys that were great. Johnny Rodgers, Oklahoma had great running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>The U had great running backs. Ohio State has had

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<v Speaker 1>quality running backs. But Georgia feels like that's tough competition

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<v Speaker 1>when you go there, It's like, how many five star

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<v Speaker 1>running backs do you have? Yeah, mcclovet remember those a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of teams Clemson when Taj Boyd and they had

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<v Speaker 1>like sever or eight wid NFL wide receivers, Deadre Hopkins

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and Tammy Watkins. That it's a lineage too. Well, look

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>at LSU as well. You know, you just start to

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>get these players and you just you kind of pile

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>them up and see if these guys want to stay.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>You might not be the featured guy. Go back to

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>LSU with Odell Beckham, he wasn't the featured guy. Jarvis

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Landry got more of a featured look than Odell Beckham.

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>He was more of a return guy and maybe the

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>second or third wide receiver. Yeah, there was a year

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>when Auburn had Brandon Jacob's Cadillac, Williams and Ronnie Brown.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>All three ran for over a thousand yards in the NFL,

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and Ronnie Jacobs had to leave him go to SIU

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>to get some playing time before getting drafted. Uh, Steven, Florida, Hey, Steve,

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me? Hey? Hello, Hey Steve?

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey Dan? Always a pleasure, Daniel. Every time I talk

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to you, I feel like George Ga Stan's order in soup. Man.

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm so nervous, you know, but I'll i'll um as

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a original olge. We got a layoff mcloven man. I

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 1>mean he's he's a sweetheart. He comes up with those

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>great polls like you know what, do I have a

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>dog or a cat? And I'm like that. You know,

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we love him down here in Florida and the show

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we Love you Dan. What Steve? Does everybody in Florida

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>love mclovin? Uh? Nine out of ten? Yeah? Okay, all right,

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, East Coast West, Thanks you, Steve. That's Steve said.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just nine out of ten people total

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like you in Florida, not nine out of every ten.

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I think is what Steve was saying that they hate

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Ethan in Florida. They are known for that. Ethan is

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>can't even walk the street to Boca Raton. Ethan just

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>does his job, doesn't ask for you know, recognition is

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Ethan sending you notes like what don't want? Are you

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>guys having a Stat's affair without us here? Is that

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.479
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Because we're not getting these notes anymore.

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Then Ethan sends him to me because he doesn't want

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to make you feel bad because if you see it,

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>then there's competition. And Ethan just does his job. He's

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>a prose prob. Are you sitting around at night like

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>glowing looking at your phone? Or is your wife like

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>who are you texting? Yeah? Late night texting with Ethan,

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the stats guy, like the State Farm commercial? Who are

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you talking to Ethan? Yeah? Ethan? What are you wearing khakis?

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Ethan also starts movies and then stops halfway through. He

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>watches them in parts a day over day, like hey, hey,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Dan just watched half of Big Lubowski, who was awesome. Yeah.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Then he puts on the Sacramento Kings game and you

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>guys chop that up. Yeah, Ethan also waited ten years

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch Breaking Bad, has never watched The Sopranos, and

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he loves Hamilton. Hey, it's a good fellow of the

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>original Knst. He's seen it place. Yeah, yes, pretty much

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody loves Hamilton, except for seats for Seaton and his family.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, so what's the poll question we're going with?

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm told hot pole question today. So we have a

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll let poly share. He has a wordy exactly right.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>He came up with it. Okay, you got a max

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>contract to offer a position player to add to your team,

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and your team needs everything. Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, the

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>tight end or Michael Thomas. Kittle and Thomas are twenty six,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey's twenty four all considered the best or amongst the

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>best at their position, and all young. McCaffrey, George Kittle,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas. And we're starting my team. I don't know

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>who my quarterback. You have a great quarterback. I have

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>a great question. He was my quarterback is Prescott? You

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta get Dak Prescott into PAULI. And this is about clicks.

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>How about make it Jimmy Garoppolo, He's right in the

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>middle m It's interesting. Well, then I would take George

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Kittle because I have to take pressure off Jimmy Garoppolo

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and Kittle. Kittle's a great blocker and obviously a great

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, him and Kelsey probably the two best tight

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>ends in football. I probably go Kittle because I think

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he can give you blocking and also he can he

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>can beat you deep too. I mean, he's a great,

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>great player. So I would probably say Kittle. Yes, is

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Kittle like the top the number one guy? Now? Is that?

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Kelsey Kittle? I think Kittle got a lot

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>more publicity last year because people got to see his

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>personality and then you go to the Super Bowl and

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you get that notoriety. You know, Kelsey of course rode

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that wave too, getting a lot of publicity. But but

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>on that offense with San Francisco, we didn't talk about

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>too many, you know, raheem most we only talked about

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>him in the Super Bowl. We talked a little bit more,

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>well a lot more about Garoppolo. But then Kittle emerged

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>as the guy that they talk about with that offense there. McCaffrey,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he just turned twenty four, Yeah, yeah, how is that possible?

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>How could he only be twenty four. He's been around

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>for a decade. Feels like that. I think the first

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>time we talked to him, he was a sophomore in college.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas. I remember Michael Thomas when he was at

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, and I thought, like you, I look at

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the Ohio statewide receivers and I always think, boy, he'll

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>be great next level. But they're interchangeable. Although Thomas is

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>not a speed guy, he's maybe Larry Fitzgerald Chris Carter

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>type where he's gonna if you throw it, he's gonna

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>catch it, obviously, But you know, I just didn't see

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that coming. Where you go, that guy's gonna have one

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty catches one season. You're gonna go, I

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know is gonna be able to get open. But

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Thomas is great. I think wide receivers, there's a few

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. There's only a couple of tight ends Kittle

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and Kelsey and maybe I'm missing somebody here, McCaffrey. To

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to run for a thousand and receive for

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>at least a thousand, that's that's really, really, really rare.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Now can you continue to do it? And it's going

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to be for a team that's gonna be average, whereas

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Kittle has been playing for a playoff team, and so

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>is Michael Thomas. But that's interesting. Pol question Lawrence in

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>New York joining us. Hey Lawrence, what do you have

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>for me today? Hi? First time caller, love the show.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. So you guys were talking running backs. Yeah,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I forgive you guys. Everybody always slips are sleeps on

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>pet I mean, they've been an NFL factory of Hall

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of famers probably for the last thirty five forty years,

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but I would definitely make the case for them being

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>running back. You Dorset, Curtis Martin, Craig Hayward, Shady, McCloy,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Dion Lewis. I mean a few of those guys are

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>going to the Hall of Fame. So just want today.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>That's good. Thank you, Lawrence. We don't know at all,

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't even act like we know at all, but

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>pit football running backs, I'm never Rosterdayalen, I'm in since

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen schools with US. Just most running backs drafted

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>since twenty fifteen. Guys want a guess um Alabama seven,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Miami five, Georgia five, LSU four, Oklahoma four, Florida four

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>since twenty fifteen. Georgia running backs DeAndre Swift, Sony Michelle,

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb, Keith Marshall, and Todd Gurley. It's a good group.

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>But previous callers talking about Pitt. You know, Tony Dorsett

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. Curtis Martin is what second or third

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>on the all time list, He's a Hall of Famer.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Craig Ironhead Heyward was a really good running back, James

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Connor Pitt h Yeah. The positions change though, and what

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame numbers are going to be. And I

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>don't envy these Hall of Fame voters in ten years

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>from now. How you assess a Hall of Fame running back?

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Adrian Peterson is kind of the dinosaur. I

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're going to have somebody who played

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that way and the number of you know, yards that

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>they put up that he might be the last guy

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>because everybody else it feels like they're gonna be. We're

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be saying how many receptions did you have? Yeah, McLean,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Elliott and McCaffrey seemed like they're on that trajectory,

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>don't they. I mean, oh, I would never do trajectory

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>with running backs. That's dangerous. All of a sudden, these

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>guys just fall off the cliff. Von Bell was on

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that traject Oh yeah, he was reinventing the position with

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that that kind of slide and then he would just

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>dart and he'd find the hole. He'd slide and dart.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And when's the last time you brought up Levy on

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Bell's name as one of the great running backs. Yeah.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Point Now people are sending in college running back Tannams,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush and Lendale White at USC. Lendale didn't have

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a great pro career, but he was very tough in college. Well,

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>he went to Tennessee. He played for the Titans, but

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>he was a powerback. I mean that that was a

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but that was a pro team. The USC's team was

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>great because lener didn't turn out to be a good

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>pro and Lendale White he might have had one or

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>two decent ears there. I thought Reggie I thought Reggie

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Bush had a good NFL career, not as good based

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>off what he did at USC, but I still think

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>did he rush for a thousand yards? I think maybe

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>twice or twice something like that. But you're taking that

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>high and he wasn't in between the tackles guy. And

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just saw him at USC where everybody

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>looked elusive, everybody looked great, everybody looked like a first

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>team All American him point. I always thought that Reggie

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Bush was used incorrectly. I think they looked at him

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the pros, yes, and the prosy. They bought into that

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he can't run between the tackles thing because he's too small.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>When he could and they're not doing that with Christian McCaffrey.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>They are giving them ball enough times inside the tackles,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>saying let's just see what happens. And Reggie Bush his

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 1>first few years in the league, he would average about

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty carries and that's that's not enough.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>But they he caught the ball a ton. Yeah, I know,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and that I understood how they were using him that way,

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if it was a fair criticism.

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't run between the tackles. But if you had

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Lendale White, then you didn't use Reggie Bush to run

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>between the tackles or have to. Yeah, mclub, they had

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>another running back and I'm planking on his name. They

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>he was mixed in with that deuce deuce McAllister era

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>early Pierre Thomas era, which I know you loved. I

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>did love Pierre Thomas my fantasy tea. I had deuce

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>McAllister and Pierre Thomas on my fantasy teams. Deuce McAllister

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorites with the Saint great running

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>back names. Yes for fifty Alex and the answer is

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>deuce McAllister. I know it's not a pole, but do

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you want the power between the tackles guy, or do

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>you want the Austin Eckler can do everything guy. He's

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the hot Pro football focus guy. Now, well, can I

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>have both? Yeah? I think you've convinced everyone that you

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>need two guys now, but it just seems like that way.

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I always have a fresh running back in there, kind

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of like me and Ethan, Like you need two of us. Yeah,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Ethan's a Derrick Henry. I'm more of a I don't know,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Austin Eckler. Austin, I'm more like a Austin Eckler might

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>be shooting too high. Yeah, Auston Eckler, It's well, they

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>let Melvin Gordon go. You're more of a Peyton Hillis type.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>My club. Remember Peyton Hillis he had like two seasons

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>when the Arkansas running back when he on the cover

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of Madden. Yeah, how many people said no before they

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>got the Peyton Hillis? I don't know. I think I

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>got one. Jordan Howard. I'm the Jordan Howard wherever the

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Bears running back at the right spot I can do. Okay,

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>got super fast. All right, We'll take a break. More

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0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.799
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0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>join us and LSH head coach. Coach Oh, we'll join

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>us in the final hour. But play of the day's

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.560
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<v Speaker 1>allow social distancing. You had twenty thousand fans on hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you start to look at the spacing, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to wear your mask when you went in, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could take your mask when you got into the speedway.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say you want to have twenty five thirty

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand at a football stadium that holds one hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you able to pull that off? So just something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on. But that was Bristol Motors

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of phone calls in here Phil in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Phil, what do you have for me today? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, Dan. Always great to be with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing something on the Dak Prescott discussion. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think he's one of the top ten quarterbacks in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be paid like he's in the top three.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people should be surprised that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are skeptical. In one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest games of this season last year, Dan against the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one of the most awful performances against a

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<v Speaker 1>very mediocre Philadelphia team where they couldn't questioned the division.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just missing something on this, Dan. Well, here's the thing, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for the phone call. And I've been saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Each quarterback who's up next doesn't have to make more

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<v Speaker 1>than the guy who preceded him. But that's the flow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the trend. You need to have a mid level

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<v Speaker 1>where you just say this is how good we think

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Now the agent doesn't want to be that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>or he won't be your agent any longer. Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's not gonna be the highest paid quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>because that's Patrick Mahomes. But did he overplay his hand?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought for a couple of reasons you didn't win

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<v Speaker 1>your division. You were really good and really bad at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Your team was eight and eight, and I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if you threw for almost five thousand yards because the

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<v Speaker 1>top five quarterbacks in passing yards last year did not

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<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs. I need to know what. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose to Buffalo at home. You can't. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all on him. But look, quarterback, we ride with you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing well. You get credit when you win,

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<v Speaker 1>more credit when you win a big game in a

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, and you're gonna get blamed. That goes along

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<v Speaker 1>with the territory. But if you're gonna say, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make this amount of money and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be commensurate with some of these other quarterbacks, is Dak

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<v Speaker 1>better than Carson Wentz? And the answer is no. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he better than Jared Goff? Close? Probably he's not better

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<v Speaker 1>than Russell Wilson. Why is he getting paid more than

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson? Well, he's the next guy up. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a flaw. I mean, I give me Agent's credit. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the next guy up, like DeShawn Watson. Deshaun Watson's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want forty million dollars a year. Is he worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say no, But if that's the going price,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look back on some of these contracts, and

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. At the time, we were like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe they're paying this guy that amount of money?

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<v Speaker 1>He was the going rate, And now you look back

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, well, they got kind of a bargain there.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jerry Jones really wanted Dak Prescott as his quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>he should have signed him last year before the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the season when I told that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I sound angry because I was told he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to sign him, but he didn't. Now that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad. Oh no, I believe that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to sign him and for whatever reason, they decided not to.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they could have signed him for Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>money and then you get a bargain there, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting a bargain now, and maybe a tag him one

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<v Speaker 1>more year. All right. I assume they're all in on

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. They just want him at a certain number.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll head to the NBA bubble coming up next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Setan Pauly, Fritzie mclovin, and Ethan on Dan Patrick Show.