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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and

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Speaker 1: of course fun. Today I'm joined by one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite stylists in the industry, the lovely Aaron Walsh. Aaron

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Speaker 1: is such a powerhouse, and she's sharing all about her

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Speaker 1: journey from theater school where she thought she wanted to

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Speaker 1: be an actor to assist in at Vogue to world

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Speaker 1: renowned stylist. I've always aligned myself so easily with Aaron's

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Speaker 1: perspective on the fashion industry and how hard she's worked

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Speaker 1: for her success. She's also a wonderful mother of three,

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait for you to learn more about her.

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Speaker 1: So let's jump right into it. Be very excited to

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Speaker 1: have you. And you know, I started climbing in heels

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Speaker 1: because I think just being so inspired by so many

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Speaker 1: women in my life. I think being surrounded by extraordinary

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Speaker 1: women that do really great things, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: really do believe. You know, obviously, when I say climbing

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Speaker 1: in heels, for me, it's literal, but for most it's not.

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Speaker 1: Most people do wear flats, but it is really meant

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Speaker 1: to mean that while working really hard and being ambitious

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Speaker 1: and passionate and all of the things, you still embrace

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Speaker 1: the sort of powers and it's not a word, but

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Speaker 1: uniqueness of being a woman. And so I wanted to

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Speaker 1: have you on just because obviously styling is close to

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Speaker 1: my heart. It's what I breathe, it's what I it's

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Speaker 1: what I know and love for as long as I know.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think sort of watching you grow

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Speaker 1: as a stylist and working with great women, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just want to have you on to talk about

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Speaker 1: the journey because you know, for me, it's every interview

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Speaker 1: I do pretty much starts with how did you get here?

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Speaker 1: How did you become Rachel's go And then you know

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Speaker 1: my answer to that is always like, well, certainly not

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Speaker 1: on purpose, and certainly I couldn't tell you how because

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Speaker 1: I never wrote a script or a journey or a path.

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Speaker 2: And so when there's not one written for you.

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Speaker 1: There isn't And I listen, I think it's also becoming

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Speaker 1: a mom. It's the same thing. There is no script

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Speaker 1: and no one tells you how to do it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think for you having three children and

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Speaker 1: working really hard, and the last time I saw you.

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Speaker 1: We talked about sort of the struggle with that too,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: My friend, Well, you just said something that occurred to me.

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought of it in this way in a minute.

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Speaker 3: And even as like the title of this of climbing

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Speaker 3: and heel, I remember before I even had kids.

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Speaker 2: Got it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to be crying this whole conversation,

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Speaker 3: like what I'm about Like that, it's that dischotomy of

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Speaker 3: like being a super woman in the sense of like

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Speaker 3: doing having wanting to and doing all the things ambitioning

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Speaker 3: career wise and being a full mother, which are two

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Speaker 3: separate things that we try to combine.

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Speaker 2: But the idea of.

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Speaker 3: Climbing and heels, it was something Lauren Santa Domingo said

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Speaker 3: to me before I had Matilda, and she had had

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Speaker 3: her kids at that point, and she was like, you

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Speaker 3: I could prioritize. She's like, I felt like I became

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Speaker 3: superwoman because she could prioritize better. She could say no easier,

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Speaker 3: she had a better understanding of like what was important

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Speaker 3: and what to say yes to. So it's almost like

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Speaker 3: I feel like the heels with the.

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Speaker 2: Mothering of it. Yes, yes it can.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly a challenge, and I don't want to act

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Speaker 3: like it's all so easy. But it does help you

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Speaker 3: step into a bigger version of yourself, oh.

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Speaker 1: One thousand percent, because I don't think you have. I

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Speaker 1: think it forces you to.

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Speaker 2: Prize you absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It's like whether one wears heels or I personally think

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Speaker 3: when you wear heels you feel more empowered to do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all.

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Speaker 3: If one does not want that, like to care for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get the heels you wear.

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Speaker 2: I can't even help sometimes on it. Probably not enhansome, no,

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Speaker 2: I think it's part of why we're here.

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Speaker 1: And also I think you know, I had my children

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Speaker 1: an editorial of why or how or because, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you do. You don't owe me an ex explination. But

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Speaker 1: what I find interesting is, you know, I always wanted.

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Speaker 1: I've always been a very mothering person, and I knew

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Speaker 1: that it was definitely meant for me. I needed to

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Speaker 1: do it. But in the throes of being a stylist,

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Speaker 1: and I know that I definitely did for probably, you know,

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Speaker 1: good fifteen to eighteen years before my kids. And when

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Speaker 1: I recently presented you with this award in LA I

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Speaker 1: very clearly remember as you were accepting the award and

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Speaker 1: clearly remember you saying we were going to go get

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Speaker 1: this is actually the real kind of sacrifice and struggle,

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Speaker 1: meaning you know, and it may not feel that way

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Speaker 1: And for me that was the hardest was doing that

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Speaker 1: and I always brought my children with me everywhere that

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Speaker 1: she saw you get celebrated, and then it was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: but she will she will know that she will have

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Speaker 1: it is, right, it was, Okay, I'm seeing mommy get

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Speaker 2: Rachel.

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Speaker 3: I was so floored by her that night, like I

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Speaker 3: do you know what. I don't know if your kids

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Speaker 3: not impressed, like with all of this, and they've been

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Speaker 3: on so many photo shoots, They've come to so many

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Speaker 3: They know, like all the people. And if I ask

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Speaker 3: to do this? Maybe not, But she was very excited

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Speaker 3: like pushed Christian out of the way and she was like,

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Speaker 3: was like, are you sure, Yeah, that's what my kids.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny and she like wanted to have

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Speaker 3: And it was the first time maybe that I really

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Speaker 3: I was just so moved by that because you know,

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well that and like if the other moms have an

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Speaker 3: but I worry less about that and like serving them,

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Speaker 3: then how is this affecting my kids and I? Because

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Speaker 3: that's the thing is always, even when I knew less

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Speaker 2: And then then there's the times that I'm not there,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's hard. But I want I

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Speaker 1: bit because I think there's so much mystery and excitement

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Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone does. But I felt normal

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Speaker 2: And I find you to be more of a wizard

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Speaker 1: Che I think that's what you grew up where.

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Speaker 3: So I grew up in North Plumb Beach and I

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Speaker 3: I grew up always wanting to be an actor and

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Speaker 2: got into NYU for theater. I went to School of

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Speaker 3: Like New York to me was like stepping into this

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that they teachose at ste Adler

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Speaker 3: And people think safety and everything, so they have made

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Speaker 3: you know, that mystery. I also like you bring a reverence.

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Speaker 3: You always brought a reverence and a level of like

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Speaker 2: And I think without that, you don't understand the fantasy.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you deserve the fantasy at

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Speaker 1: To sound like harsh about it. I just I think

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Speaker 3: me was the idea that this is all it all

440
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: is about being of service, Like it is working with

441
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: fancy people or fancy clothes or any of it. That's

442
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: all kind of incidental factors that are part of the process.

443
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: It is about like like we're all here to like

444
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 3: walk in this world as our buss selves, and we

445
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: look to stars to better understand how to do that.

446
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Speaker 2: That's a service.

447
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: And like any anybody I work with, I want to

448
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: make them feel like the most beautiful, best version of

449
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 3: selves of themselves so that they can better shine. And

450
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: I feel like so many people miss that very fundamental.

451
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: True because they get tangled up in the nonsense.

452
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it without that.

453
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: To me, it's like without having a purpose driven reason

454
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: behind this, I don't see the point.

455
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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I wouldn't. I would.

456
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Speaker 3: I would have lost in trust a long time ago

457
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: because it's too much work and it's too much. I

458
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: mean you, you and I both work this way. It's

459
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: too much heart like, there's too much of your heart

460
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Speaker 3: on the line and it can be art breaking and

461
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: heart making. And so if it's not purpose driven, you know,

462
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: count me up. I wouldn't happen any other way.

463
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Speaker 1: What do you find to be your greatest sort of

464
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: like fears or challenges, Like as you sit here today

465
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: and having done this for several years and having kind

466
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: of come up in your own way, and you know,

467
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I I feel like, at least when

468
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: I was coming up, there was a lot of people

469
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: had issues with me with the fact that I came

470
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: from a like a a good, loving family. There was

471
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: some resentment as to why is she working this hard?

472
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: She doesn't need to, like she has so much support,

473
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: she has a fiance or whatever. I was like, are

474
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Speaker 1: you okay? Like what, I'm the first one here, I'm

475
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: the last one to leave. Why are you judging me? Like?

476
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: I guess my question is like, is it other stylists?

477
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Is there still that pettiness? Is there still that competition?

478
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that much anymore.

479
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: But I think, like my biggest issue is not doubting

480
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: whether I'll get it done, or whether I'll get it

481
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: done well, or whether I will be able to serve somebody.

482
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: Because I've put in the ten thousand hours. I really

483
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing at this point. My problem is

484
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: that I'm still a human and so that my feelings

485
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: get hurt all the fucking way. And so it's not

486
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: because I mean, you certainly you hear things and people

487
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: have opinions, and not everybody will like what you do.

488
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: You're not going to be.

489
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Everybody's of course, especially in this.

490
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Especially in this and I am generally okay.

491
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: With that, but I think the hardest part is just like, look,

492
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: if you work in this business with people, like, there's

493
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of opinions, and not all

494
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: of them are going to be nice.

495
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: So I try to you know, when do I have

496
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: some tormaline here?

497
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: Probably I try to wear my armor, you know, but

498
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm human and I get my feelings short, and I

499
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: find that to be problematic, and I try to, you know,

500
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: heart forward down and keep doing the work in a

501
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: way that feels like it's a service.

502
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: So you're you're never going to please everyone and be thankful.

503
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: You live in a world of cancel culture where people

504
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: don't speak badly really as much anymore about people. Where

505
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: ten years ago, people who knew nothing about fashion could

506
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: not even dress themselves, were sitting there attacking these beautiful

507
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: talented artists and being like what were they thinking?

508
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah the world best?

509
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you okay? And I think I'm hearing.

510
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: How I want to start asking people that are you okay?

511
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like that's a good question when somebody.

512
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: Is not.

513
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Are you on? Well? Like what like I don't get it,

514
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Like you crazy and you're telling me that this, Like

515
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: do you or whatever that was customer like, it's this

516
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: most stunning thing I've ever seen. Who do you think

517
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: you are?

518
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: Like right, right, it's funny, and that's funny.

519
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: It's important to have your I think, look, if you're

520
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: aware of what matters, it's easy to like step back

521
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 3: into yes.

522
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: But in the moment, it hurts.

523
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

524
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: And also I think more importantly, even if it doesn't

525
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: hurt you or or the stylist or whoever, it hurts

526
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: the artist. Even if they say it doesn't hurt, it

527
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: does hurt. It hurts, totally, hurts.

528
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: Totally because.

529
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: I have I think that that's harder to deal with

530
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: than like the process, because I always know, as you know,

531
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: you've said this before that you told me show like

532
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 3: you were having brain surgery or something. But it's not

533
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: so like if you're having a problem at a shoot

534
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: or in a fitting, like you can always solve that.

535
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: People.

536
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: I heard from my agent, and I find this to

537
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: be so fascinating, like that, you know, we'll call and

538
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: they complain about this person or that person around the

539
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: people and they're saying like, well, it's so hard, and

540
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: so I would never do that. I never complain. I

541
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: never I'm just like, let's let's do this. Let's solve it,

542
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: because like, why is somebody hiring you to do this

543
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: service for that, like get a different job if you

544
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: don't want to solve it.

545
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do. But here's the thing that I'm

546
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: going to say. And I posted this recently on my

547
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: social and I couldn't believe the reaction to it. And

548
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: I think because historically when I was growing up, it

549
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: was always sort of like, oh my god, don't have

550
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: a woman do that. It'll be so emotional. Oh my god,

551
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: it'll be she will just like get hurt too easily,

552
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: or she will care too much or like or like

553
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: she'll just bring too much emotion and sensitivity to the table.

554
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: And I sit here today and I'm like, Wow, what

555
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: a fucking superpower that we have that we do bring

556
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: our emotion to it. And I would think that, you know,

557
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: for what you just said, like the biggest challenge is

558
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: being hurt. That was absolutely, by far and away, the

559
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for me was how hurt I got by

560
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: people that worked with me, by people I work, you know,

561
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: people external people, by you know, agents that crushed me

562
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: and still owe me money today, Like you know, a

563
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: constant heartbreak in that stuff. And Roger, you know, would

564
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: be like, take the high road, take the high road.

565
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like that is actually the hardest challenge

566
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: that I've ever faced in any business that I've done. Truthfully,

567
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: it was taking the high road still is, and it's

568
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: something I'm trying to teach my kids, and in all fairness,

569
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: when I teach my kids, as I say, listen, this

570
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: is something mommy has struggled with forever because it is

571
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: the harder thing to do taking the high road, to take.

572
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: The high road in to also, like, I think that

573
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: in combination with just trying to step back and we

574
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: realize that people, well people show you who they are.

575
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, you have to believe it. You have

576
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: to believe it.

577
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: And I think that that lesson is really hard to

578
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: and we look, we learn that again and again because

579
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: you put the hard out there, like thanks don't always

580
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: work out the way you want.

581
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: No, they really don't. But but I do think that

582
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm I honestly love what you're doing. I love the

583
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: women that you work with, you know, I love how

584
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: much you love what you're doing.

585
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: What's it's like, it's it's again, it's it's of service.

586
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: And also the women that I work with, they're not

587
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: just about like going out there and wearing a pretty

588
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: brothe right and like looking great. Like yeah, so those

589
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: things are happening, and that's part of it. But they

590
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: are out there, like in the most purpose driven way,

591
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: trying to change the world through their art and through

592
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 3: their sentiments and how they engage with their fans. You know,

593
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, f yes, like that's that's why we're here.

594
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: And so like using your platform in that way, that's

595
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: what's exciting to me. And so in terms of like

596
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: taking that to another level, that's exactly what I'm doing.

597
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm working on a book call after This about that

598
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: actually that we're selling next month. The idea is my

599
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: book is.

600
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: That I want I want to, like basically what Marie

601
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: Kondo was able to do with organization, I want to

602
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: do that for style and I want to like us

603
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: to have a system to use what we wear to

604
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: step into our best self every day. So like, what's

605
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 3: what's your system? What can you return to because some

606
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: of us, most of us, wake up most days maybe

607
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: not feeling like the best or perfect version of yourself.

608
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: So it's like this strange combination of like metaphysical and.

609
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: Physical practical guide because I also hadn't really seen a

610
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: style idea that was about aligning your entire life and

611
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: like how you could better do that.

612
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: By changing your relationship to what you were so working

613
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: on that.

614
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I listen, I've always stood by find your uniform. Find

615
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: your uniform, and what is that uniform?

616
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: You will be interviewed for the book rich you can

617
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: talk about that you're the that's that that is an

618
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: element of course of practical style if you because it's

619
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: that's also the confidence thing too, write if you if

620
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: you don't know what works for you, like once you

621
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: know that, then you can take risks and.

622
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Do the But I think it's just about making it

623
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: easier for everybody because it's scary for most people, the

624
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: full process.

625
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: And it's vulnerable.

626
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: And like if if that's like if all these other

627
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: things are going on in the world, like we don't

628
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: have to name the walk the world is very person.

629
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: Can't you start using like make it so your wardrobe

630
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: works for you better, so that you can already start

631
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: feeling and living as the person you want to be,

632
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: Like I give it a pressure manifestation.

633
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: You're also probably too young. But did you watch the

634
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Jetsons ever?

635
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you know what I was thinking

636
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: of this recently?

637
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: I did as I could, but I can't.

638
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Like, okay, so you need to google Jetsons because if

639
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: you look at Judy and Jane Jetson, they used to

640
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: press a button and their clothes would come around and

641
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: just get being dressed. And when I was little. When

642
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I was little, I would just sit every morning, every

643
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday morning my sister and I My sister

644
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: had no interest in it, but I was like, oh

645
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: my god, if I could be Judy Jetson and I

646
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: could just snap my fingers or press a button and

647
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: then it would get dressed, and I could say what

648
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: I felt like wearing, and like, I just that's what

649
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I was manifested. And then later on I wanted to

650
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: be elsa clench and then you know.

651
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I need to rewatch it. That's hilarious.

652
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: I feel like that probably is the future.

653
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Well it is, it actually is. I think we're weirdly

654
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: like not that much. That's far away from that actually happening.

655
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: And I bet you Dubai they probably do. But let's

656
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: go talk to Dubai. When you do this, I'm done

657
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: with that. I think people want want, they're like the

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Speaker 1: I love and adore you. I love knowing you, I

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Speaker 1: love watching you, I love being friends with you, I

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: And I wish everybody could see what you're wearing because

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Speaker 3: you look very fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just these are your necklaces? Pretty? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian, Yeah yeah, well this one is Devin

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see you. We're going to sen I'm excited. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy and I'll see you. So I'll see you very soon. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. To my very sweet, brilliant friend

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Speaker 1: Aaron Walsh, were coming unclimbing in heels today. I am

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Speaker 1: so impressed by her vulnerability, her work, ethic and just

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Speaker 1: her overall sort of humility and graciousness about being so

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Speaker 1: lucky to do what she loves and really just be

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Speaker 1: great at it and love it so much along the way,

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Speaker 1: and still being an incredibly hands on mom to three.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for listening and I will see you all

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Speaker 1: next week. Wow.

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