1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: But you're tough, girl. You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama Drawn MC, Queen's Drama, Queen's Ladies, Gentlemen, listeners, friends. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Last week we said where is the Redemption? And it 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: turns out that this week it is in episode seventeen, 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Spirit in the Night. It's a secret Sparkle classic and 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: it aired originally April six, two thousand four. Oh my god, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: we got our show back this week. Guys, san good. 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: We had so much fun watching this. Look at this. 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: We took notes again. We were so happy Greenberg. In 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the episode, I took a screen grab 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, you are a doll, baby, I guys, 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: I loved this episode too. Was this one of our 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: first field trips? Yeah? I think it was. We took 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: this on the road danger, Myrtle Beach, on the road, 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. Baby. That was fun. It was fun and 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Hayley got to be a cheerleader for the first time, 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: which the introduction and the first time Brooke ever called 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Haley Haley. That's right, Oh my gosh. We also had 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Lee was involved, you know. Their last episode was the 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: first time that we had seen Antoine in the high 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: school and now Lee in social settings, which is important. O. 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Our secondary characters were really like vital part of our 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: seven tiny Risa, Daniella, all girls, all of the boys 28 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: on the basketball team. I also will say to everybody 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: at with us today that there were some very close 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: to spit takes with Brook screams, hey, lips come here. 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, she is such a little tyrant 32 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: at the opening of this episode, and you learn that 33 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: it's because she's really leaning into the escapism of the 34 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: control and the choreography and the project to fix her sadness. 35 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: And and it's kind of an amazing framework, you know, 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: with the with the cheer competition and with the game 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: for everybody to confront um sort of the edges of 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: their comfort, even for Lucas and for Nathan. I mean, god, 39 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Lucas seems like himself again, and Lucas and Nathan get 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: into the whole um leaning on each other to learn 41 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: the fade away. We're learning sports terms over here. There 42 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: are just good things happening in this episode and Brooke 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: and in Peyton's friendship rekindling and men kind of. I know, 44 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: it was like a little a little fumbly at the end, 45 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: they're still but I just was so happy to see 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: I missed it even for like a couple episodes. Like 47 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I realized is that we have spoken a number of 48 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: times about how quickly our characters fall in love and 49 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: how quickly they like shack up and like, you know, 50 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: couple up. Yeah, when other shows do the whole you know, 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: like long drawn out thing. And I realized that in 52 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: our show, the friendships are the will they or won't 53 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: they relationships because Lucas and Nathan the whole episode of 54 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: like are they friends? Are they not friends? And that's 55 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: been going on like all season. You know, we've got 56 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: this shared thing of hating Dan, but it's will they 57 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: or won't they? And now with Brooke and Payton, it's 58 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's will they or won't they? And 59 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: so I can see why a lot of our fan 60 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: base has questioned if like the true romantic si ism 61 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: of the show isn't involved in the friendships, you know, 62 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: like that has been something that people have talked about 63 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, I actually think, gosh, that's such an 64 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: interesting Maybe that's our secret. I think it is, you, guys, 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: because when you think about how long it takes all 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the girls to become friends, the sort of flip flopping 67 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: over the guy for for Brooke and Peyton, I think 68 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: that's why everyone's always gone. The relationships are cool, but 69 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: the friendships are what mattered to us because they're they're 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: slow and they're honest. Oh I like that. Can I 71 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: can I? As much as I love the seriousness of 72 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: our friendship conversation, can I just steer back into the 73 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sizzling romance of what is happening in this episode between 74 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Karen and Larry. Oh, guys, if we could just make 75 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: it weirder than be great. It was like, let's do 76 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: this love triangle between the kids and then let's have 77 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: their parents took up. Like I just I get that 78 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: it's a small town, like I fully understand, but the 79 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: whole incestuous of it nature of it just gives me hives. 80 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, totally get it, totally get it, but there 81 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: but there were major vibes there. I have to acknowledge 82 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: it's pretend those aren't are real parents, but it's still 83 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: creeps me out in a way that feels mortifyed. Like 84 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: when they came on the screen and they were flirting, 85 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, what do you do. Everyone 86 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: just says, it's if clueless did it, if clueless got 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: away with it, it's all. It's okay now, I guess 88 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: I will say. I am currently watching season three of 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Sex Education. It is my happy show, and there is 90 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: a whole thing between Otis's mom and Olah's dad and 91 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Otis and Ola you stay and like, this is apparently 92 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: a dynamic in small towns on television, but I felt that, 93 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Hillary, I need you to know, like clearly 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: neither Karen or Larry is one of Brooks parents. And 95 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: when that started happening on screen, I was like, what 96 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: are our parents doing? It felt crazy because I think that, 97 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, for us, they really seemed like the worldly, 98 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: know it all adults, the responsible ones. Yeah, when we 99 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: were when we were little babies, we were messy, and 100 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: it to see them have like genuine chemistry, which now 101 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: as adults we know you can have with your friends, 102 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: with your coworkers. It doesn't actually have to be romantic, 103 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: but at the time it felt really real and I'm 104 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: having I'm having feelings so from trying to figure out 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: like the back story because Okay, so we know that 106 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: Karen was a Treehole Raven cheerleader, which is exciting, like 107 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: for her to cop to in this episode. We know 108 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: from a former captain to another. By the way, Karen 109 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: was the captain. I was captain, you know, like a 110 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: little bit deal. But she's like, we're the we're the 111 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: same girl. I came to check on you because my 112 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: son's an idiot, and also to let you know I'm 113 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: like you. Well, but we also know from previous episodes 114 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: that Whitey knows Peyton's mom because she was a cheerleader. Now, 115 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Karen had Lucas at eighteen, right, and so I have 116 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: to imagine parents. You know, Peyton's parents were older. So 117 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: if they were like, you know, a lot of grades ahead, Um, 118 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: that means that Larry Peyton's dad would have potentially also 119 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: been of the tree Hill lineage. And so if they're 120 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: like class of eighty eight, you know what I mean. Like, 121 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out that I wish they hadn't 122 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: known each other. Wouldn't that have been nice? Yeah, It's like, 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: how do they not know each other in this small 124 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: town if they all went to the same school. Unless 125 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: he's significantly older, I don't know. Well. I wonder if 126 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe Peyton's mom and Karen were the same age. But 127 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: then when they went off to college, Peyton's mom at 128 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Larry like as a freshman, and maybe he was a 129 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: senior and they had Peyton, so Karen knew of him 130 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: but never knew him. I don't know a story point, 131 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: do we Peyton Peyton's mom grew up in Tree Hill? 132 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I forgot Yeah, because remember when Whitey and Peyton are 133 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: talking at the cemetery. White He's like, I knew your 134 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: mama know that she was, So I feel like she 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: would because they were old enough to adopt Peyton. I 136 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: feel like she would have been a little bit older 137 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: than um. But that kind of makes Larry sexy. He's 138 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: like an older alumni, as opposed to Keith, who she's 139 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: grown up with. You know, Keith is like I just 140 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: completely ignored the reality of our show and started writing 141 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: a rom com. I was like they met in college, 142 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: they had a baby adopted. I really went for it, 143 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: but I actually think there's something really there's something really 144 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: interesting there of of a familiarity. But then also when 145 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you lose people, when you move on, and and because 146 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Larry's always gone, he's always out on a boat, like 147 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: he's back to be with Peyton now she's sixteen. He 148 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want to miss anything. Karen just went away and 149 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: doesn't want to miss anymore. I wonder if they're connecting 150 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: on some moment in their lives. I don't like it. 151 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: It's gross. It still makes me feel like a kid. 152 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: You guys like, I'm just grossed out. I don't like it. 153 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: There's also there's something really cool that happens with Karen 154 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: that isn't romantic, but it is deeply tender. At the 155 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: beginning of the episode with Deb and Karen at the 156 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: cafe and she's like, sweetheart, you have to stop cleaning 157 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: the counters, Like I get that you're stressed, and you 158 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: realize that in the last episode where we were in 159 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: the upside down and everything was awful side we were 160 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: in the upside down, it was bad. But but Karen 161 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: said to Deb, like, why don't we be partners? And 162 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: Deb said I can't. It seems as though now they 163 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: are and deb is, you know, confessing her fear and 164 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: her and her heartbreak to Karen, who just says, your 165 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: son's going to forgive you. You're a good person. I 166 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: liked that moment. Those are important moments for us to see. 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: And I, you know, I don't know what Karen's basing 168 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: her whole you he'll forgive you thing? You know. It 169 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: feels like foreshadowing in a way, like has Karen does 170 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: something that Lucas is going to get mad about? Like 171 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, I I don't know. 172 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it was just like a device, like 173 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: there was to have a character who had a sane voice. 174 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: It feels weird that the deb doesn't have a world 175 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: of her own. That's what it feels weird to me, 176 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: is that she's confessing everything into her ex as X 177 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: and like deb has been a successful businesswoman, why doesn't 178 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: she have a world of her own? Why doesn't she 179 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: have friends? We are taking a turn with Debb because 180 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: she when we started out, remember how impressed we were 181 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: with her boundaries, with her sense of self, her sense 182 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: of worth and identity and all this stuff. In spite 183 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: of being married to this man who is clearly abusive 184 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: to her in so many ways. Why, how did the 185 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: turn happen? How are we? You know? Why? I feel 186 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: like it's happening because in the world of the show, 187 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Deb's world has been outside of Tree Hill. She travels 188 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: for work, she has a big job, she works with 189 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: nonprofits out out out And what the writers are not 190 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: going to do is bring in a bunch of Deb's friends. 191 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: So they're going to bring Deb home where she's alone, 192 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and they're going to make her friends with Karen. This 193 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: is because they don't want to hire five more actors. Unfortunate, 194 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate for Barbara's skill. But what I what I 195 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: like that it gives us is the one person who 196 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: isn't judging Deb because Dan has held this over her 197 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: and threatened to ruin her life. Nathan is making his 198 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: mother the sinner rather than his father, and and everything 199 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: feels misogynistic again in the writing, everybody relaxed and and 200 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Deb leaning on Karen. Karen is the only other person 201 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: who's ever been in a relationship with Dan, and she 202 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: is like, are you crazy? Of course your son is 203 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: going to forgive you. Like it almost seems like Karen 204 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: isn't even going to tolerate Deb's self flagellation, her self criticism, 205 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: and and I like that that. Karen's like, of course 206 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you went looking elsewhere. That guy's an asshole. I know 207 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: that feels nice. Have you guys ever done that in 208 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: real life? Have you ever like gotten close to the devil? 209 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: You know? Do you know what I mean? Like, like 210 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: I dated somebody on one trail and when we broke up, 211 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: I ended up dating his old best friend, and like 212 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: only because it was the only other person that knew 213 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: what it was like to be disappointed by that person, 214 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It was really are 215 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: you really asking me that? Like we've all done this. 216 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's the same, you know you've done it. 217 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: We've all done it because it's like we can talk 218 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: about it, you know. It's like I can't talk about 219 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: this really frustrating, embarrassing thing with anyone but the person 220 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: who also loves you, you know, or loved past tense, 221 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: or the person who's also been betrayed, like we share 222 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: that we were both betrayed by this person. I actually 223 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: think that's quite common, whether or not anybody talks about it. 224 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: I it's it's the same reason that like in a 225 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: completely different world, not in the closed circuit world of 226 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: a of a show landscape. But think about like people 227 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: who meet in you know, when people who meet in rehab, 228 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: they're both suffering the same wound, and they can sometimes 229 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: have a commiseration that gives them something that nothing else 230 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: can commiserate. Friendship, that's a strong bond. Listen. Sometimes that's 231 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: a bad idea, and sometimes it's a good idea. And 232 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell you how to tell 233 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the difference. Listen, if we hate all the same things, 234 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: chances are we're gonna be friends. I love that. Can 235 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: we all talk about something that we all hate, but God, 236 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 1: we love to hate him? Sweet Angel? Paul playing horrible 237 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Dan Scott cardboard cut out, Oh my god, the cardboard 238 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: cut out where he's grinning. Oh my god, Joy, was 239 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: it you say that the little one still lives? No, Sophie, Sophie, 240 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I haven't, guys, I have the miniature cut out, Of 241 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: course I do. I'm going to ask Paul right now. 242 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna text him, and afkan text him, Okay. I 243 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Paul carried the way he played that scene and This 244 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: is where you know Paul is the sweetest human and 245 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: he's such a good actor. He played that scene with 246 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the subtle, like pulsing energy of camp. Like in Scary 247 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Movie where they're making fun of scary movies. Paul is 248 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: actually making fun of Dan Scott while like puffing up 249 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: his chest as Dan Scott. It is so funny. And 250 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: then when Craig Shepherd throws the basketball at the cut out, 251 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: it's poetry and it's a wonner Like they didn't do 252 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: it as an insert, It actually happened, and it is poetic, 253 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: comedic justice. It's so good. It's so good. Remember this 254 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: episode because you had never been a cheerleader in high school? Right, Yeah? 255 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: I was for like one day and I went, this 256 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: is not for me. I want to know about that 257 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: one day. Tell me about that one day. Um, I 258 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I just signed up for cheerleading 259 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: and I just tried it, and I thought, I don't know, 260 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: I really don't know. I just uh, I wasn't into it. 261 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: I just didn't care. I didn't care. I think that's 262 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: what it was. I could have cared about soccer or 263 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe softball. Because their strategy and like, 264 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I guess for whatever reason, I 265 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: just didn't care. I tried it, but um, but then 266 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: I did do um the sequel to bring it on 267 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: and uh, we had cheerleading camp for three weeks ahead 268 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: of time with professional cheerleaders. They came in and we 269 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: trained in that gym on Hollywood and Highland, the giant 270 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: church at the corner of Hollywood and for Franklin, Franklin 271 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: and Highland. Um. Yes, so we trained in there for 272 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: three weeks and by the end of it, you know, 273 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: we were being thrown up in the air and doing lifts, 274 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: like full extension lifts on these guys hands, and I 275 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: mean I was like, it was so cool. It was 276 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: a really fun experience. UM. So I had a little 277 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: bit of that in behind the end dance training because 278 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: I grew up dancing and stuff. So I felt pretty 279 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: comfortable doing all of our stuff that we did. Um. I. 280 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I we were laughing during the during the routine because 281 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, the choreography was mediocre, and uh, you know, 282 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: we were all obviously doing the best we couldn't and 283 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: we were good for actors to to be doing cheering, 284 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, cheering filming in eighteen hours a day, When 285 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: are you going to learn a routine? I know That's 286 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: all I'm hearing you say. When you're like, we had 287 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: three weeks of twelve hours a day of rehearsal to 288 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: learn saying routine, I'm like, interesting because they taught us 289 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: our routine like a day before exactly. Oh god. We'd 290 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: get thirty minutes and they'd be like, come on, girls, 291 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: and you're like this. We were like, guys, we don't 292 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: know it, we don't know it. And they were like, 293 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: you'll be great. And we watched and the Hillary I 294 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: think you said it. You were like, look every shots 295 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: close up because there's no wide shot where we're all 296 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: insane over, no group shot, we do, no rehearsal time, 297 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: lots of torsos. It looks when they do the shots 298 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: where there's more than one person, it looks like the 299 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: moves are staggered on purpose, and I promise you at 300 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: home they were not. Whoever was behind the person in 301 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: the front was just following the move of the person 302 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: in front. A second later, I did competitions cheer squad. 303 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: I did go to n c A cheerleading camp, and 304 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: I made the national squad and I was like a 305 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: super cheerleader. Damn it, I love that, and it damn 306 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: it killed me to not be good on what trio 307 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: ll Like even I was struggling with those moves because 308 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: I was like, it's not fair. It's not fair for 309 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: them to not give us the proper rehearsal time and 310 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: then throw us in and be like just move your 311 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: bodies and like basically throw your arms in this direction. 312 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: We'll shoot around you. I've been cheerleading since I was 313 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: nine years old, and man, we could have done it amazing. 314 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: We could have. If we'd had a couple of weeks 315 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: of rehearsal, we would have killed ye never never never. 316 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: And so then on top of it, they're like, we're 317 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: gonna put you in front of a thousand extras and 318 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: we were like, okay, good story. The extras were hecklin us. 319 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: You guys. They were laughing in our faces. They were 320 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: because they were all serious cheer squads and they were like, 321 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, these girls. On top of all of that, 322 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: we're getting the pressure of like pull it together. We're 323 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: wasting film. We were still shooting on film together, We're 324 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: shooting on film, you're wasting material. And then on top 325 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: of that, pull it together. Your show is gonna get canceled. 326 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: We have this big corporate endorsement from Secret Sparkle. They're 327 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: watching you like I was like, I will sparkle my 328 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: forehead and deodorant if you need me to just make it. 329 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Stop making me dance. Let's go to the Secret Sparkle 330 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: of it all because oh man, explain to the kids 331 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: at home who don't know what the Secret Sparkle was. 332 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: So the Secret Sparkle Classic was the chair competition. No, 333 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: it wasn't was made up. It was made like it was. 334 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: It was basically Nationals what Hillary is talking about. Um, 335 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: but it was the TV version, and it was the 336 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: TV version because I guess they got Secret Sparkle at 337 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: the time. They made a glitter deodorant and they got 338 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: Secret to pay, you know, to quote indoors. You guys, 339 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: they made a glitter deodorant. Don't let's not blow past 340 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: that glitter deodorant. Okay, guys, I love glitter. I don't 341 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: know why you want to hate on it so much. 342 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I've never not bought a sequence anything, jumpsuit, pant, dress. 343 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to tell you. 344 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Like most days I dress like a teenage boy. However, 345 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: if I see, I literally I just moved to Canada 346 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: and I packed four suitcases and in one of them 347 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: is a pair of sequin pants, so damn it. Of course, 348 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: of course, I just the idea of drawing attention to 349 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: your armpit, just like, check it out, guys. It's not hair, 350 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: it's glitter. And it was for lasers too. It was like, 351 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: before we could get rid of hair, guys, would you 352 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: rather have a glitter or hair? I say glitter. I 353 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: don't know what you want for me. But like the 354 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: funniest part is, and now that I'm hearing you guys 355 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: talk about this, I remember I vaguely remember them basically saying, oh, no, 356 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be fine. All these girls are cheerleaders. Joy 357 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: did bring it on. Hillary was competed in Nationals. They 358 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: thought we didn't need rehearsal time, and it's like, no, 359 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: you get to Nationals or you do bring it on 360 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: by rehearsing all day every day for literal weeks. That's 361 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: how so we had really sparkly armpits and terrible choreography. 362 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: As the play of the story. Well, let's talk about 363 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: who had great choreography. And that is Marvin McFadden. Wow. 364 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: I loved that moment so much. That was so fun um. 365 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: I love God, bless Lee Norris for learning all that 366 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: going for it. He always throws himself in a hundred 367 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: and like shaking his assa that he didn't have a 368 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: problem learning the choreography, but that's so funny. Also a 369 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: lot less to do in this episode though, I mean 370 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: we were working ones. I was going to say that's 371 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: ruth because Lee only worked two days in this episode 372 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and we worked eight, so his days of rehearsal really 373 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: paid off. His choreography was flaws when he when you 374 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: go when Haley says, what's a diagonal? And he collaps 375 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: and goes it was It was such comedic gold. I 376 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: know I said this earlier, but it bears repeating. I 377 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: really feel like we got our show back. And and 378 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: even with the boys, like we've been seeing you know again, 379 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: it's in the writing. Bad behavior was being modeled and 380 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: it's almost like I almost feel like they took it 381 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: so far in the last episode that maybe, and maybe 382 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm giving them too much credit. I don't know, but 383 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: maybe even the writers were like, WHOA, that was a 384 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: lot and suddenly in this episode you have this beautiful 385 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: storyline of will there wan't they with the brothers and 386 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan go to the river court and did 387 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: you guys notice that this is when we started lighting 388 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: the whole city on the other side, so twinkle, so beautiful, 389 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: and Lucas is trying to teach Nathan the fade away 390 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: and they're just these boys. They feel like boys again 391 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: having this experience. And then when you get to Charlotte 392 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: or Raleigh or wherever this place was, wherever we were 393 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: for the deodorant glitter Um, there's gorgeous Myrtle beach there. 394 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: It is gorgeous. We don't know, guys, were just pulling. 395 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: We're pulling rabbits at the hottub was fun, but but 396 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: there's that gorgeous super wide shot. It feels like a 397 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: movie of Lucas and Often walking into that gymnasium and 398 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: you realize it's just these like two young boys up 399 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: against the world and it's touching. That was Those were 400 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: the moments that reminded me of um. What was the 401 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: movie that Mike Tolin and Brian Robbins had done together, 402 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: was they had done a basketball movie before they sold 403 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: this show. It wasn't that the movie. Antoine did coach 404 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Carter in it, That's right, and it was so it 405 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: was so beautifully shot and those big epic moments of 406 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, somehow it feels magical and intimate and huge 407 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: all at the same time. And they did a great job. 408 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: And there were a lot of shots in this episode 409 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: that reminded me of that vibe, which is what the 410 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: show was sold on. That's what our show was sold on, 411 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: that that vibe, that image. So yeah, we got our shoeback. 412 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: My favorite shot of the entire episode was the hallway 413 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: shot where you see the chaperones go through and make 414 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: sure everyone's in bed and then all the kids out 415 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: of the room, because I full on remember those nights 416 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: going on field trips in high school. I went on 417 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: every field trip, imaginable, student, government, theater, sports, like whatever 418 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: is if I could leave my house, I went on 419 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: that trip. And I loved like hotels and we did. 420 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: We would sneak out. We wouldn't do anything bad. We 421 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: certainly weren't going to strip clubs, but we'd go to 422 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: each other's stuff and it was I remember going on 423 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: a government field trip and like it was when Lifetime 424 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: did If These Walls Could Talk? Do you remember that? 425 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? It was all that Leslians. It 426 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the first time then those relationships 427 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: were being profiled on television and I was into it, 428 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: like fascinated. And my I'm sitting in my room. I'm 429 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: in a hotel. We have cable on like I did 430 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: at home, and my sponsors call our hotel room and 431 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: I answered the phone and said hello, and they're like, 432 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Hillary turned the channel and I was like what, They're like, 433 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: we can hear the sex seats from your room. Oh, sorry, guys, anyway, 434 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, listen some you got to like go 435 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: out of town and sew your oats. Totally. I loved. 436 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: I also remember us filming that stuff, and I can't 437 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: remember if they had a bullhorn and they would yell, 438 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: or if they had an air horn at the end 439 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: of the hall. They needed a really loud noise to 440 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: get everyone to open the door at the same time. 441 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: And how funny it was when we get it wrong, 442 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: and it was like it was just such a charming 443 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: behind the scenes experience, but to see it on camera, 444 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: because again, you know, for everybody watching along with us. 445 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: We filmed this stuff for hours and hours. So when 446 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: we see it cut together and the comedy is like 447 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: chefs kiss, the timing is perfect, you go, oh my god, 448 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: we really did it right, and it's so sweet eat 449 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: to then have this moment where you're like rut row 450 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: and when everybody gets in trouble and Barry is screaming, 451 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: how could you? How am I sopolarious? And you and 452 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: you realize he's not yelling at the team, He's yelling 453 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: at Karen and Larry. H it was I love that 454 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: we kept our basketball players and our cheerleaders for the 455 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: run of the show. Yeah. I thought that was really special. 456 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: I love that that that they really made an effort 457 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: to do that. It was so cool. And this was 458 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: a cool episode two because you know, so many of 459 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: the gals on our squad were our friends, like some 460 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: of the dearest people in our lives. And this was 461 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the first time with Teresa, you know, getting chicken pox. 462 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: I hated Brook being like, cover up is it? But 463 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, it's the joke for the chicken pox 464 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: time whatever. It's okay. And there's a lot of Victoria 465 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: in there too, which was kind of fun. To see 466 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: that's true. Oh my god, that complete away with the zair. 467 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: But like seeing her more on camera, seeing Dan yellow 468 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: more with her like that perfectly just shocked face when 469 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: the other girl is mean to us downstairs. Bevin getting 470 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: her first line on camera, it was just so special. 471 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Remember when they named her Bevan on the call sheet, 472 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: like they like she could only be Bevan, Like give 473 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: her a character name. What was her first line? What 474 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: did she say? It was something snarky to Brook, it 475 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: was about it was it was okay. So when we 476 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: had the rot Bevin's first line, I didn't write down 477 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: what it was. Well, so when we were shot that 478 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: scene on the quad, part of my mortification and all 479 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: of this cheerleading is that my real friends from high 480 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: school visited during this episode. And they came because all 481 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: my friends were still in college and so they came 482 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: during It must have been spring break because this aired 483 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: in April, so they and we only had a couple 484 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: weeks between when we would shoot and when things would air. 485 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: So my girlfriends from high school all came down and 486 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: watched us film that cheerleading practice on the quad, and 487 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: I just reder them, being like, that's not accurate. You know, 488 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: like a little vinchy about it. But that's when like 489 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Bevin had her first line, and you know, for her, 490 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: that turned into a big storyline. And now you know, 491 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: we can talk. Bevin's got a really successful podcast. Bevin 492 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: runs her own business now. She was doing soul Cycle 493 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: forever and she's got her own business called recess Um, 494 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: which is a fitness program. And she moved to Wilmington's 495 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: after living in New York City for years. Daniella is 496 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: like in London. Is she living in London with her 497 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: twins or something? Daniella is in London with three kids. 498 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I was at Daniella's wedding. It was an utter dream, 499 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: my favorite. I actually just have to shout out Danielle 500 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: and her sweet husband brand because you guys will remember this. 501 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: When Danielle and Brent started eating, we were all in 502 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina and he's English, so he would walk into 503 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: a bar and be like, you know, in his cute accent, 504 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: like oh hello, and people were like, wow, where are 505 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: you from? And then they moved to London and everyone 506 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: is British and dan Yellow walks into a bar and goes, hey, 507 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: y'all are like, oh my, and he was like oh, 508 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: I've done myself a terrible disservice. The thing that made 509 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: me feel cool makes my wife katnip to everyone in London. 510 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: And it's just it's the cutest role reversal. And they 511 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: are just the most delightful, wonderful couple and their kids 512 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: are unbelievable and it's like, yeah, man, we were all 513 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: just a bunch of kids pretending to be cheerleaders and 514 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: now we're grown ups with careers. Who knew so Brett 515 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: clay Well and Sarah Edwards who played Teresa. So Tim 516 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: and Sarah were dating in real life when we were 517 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: doing this, and so that was a fun thing because 518 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: they were like the home town kids and they he 519 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: wants to give us tours. And I remember like going 520 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: around on Halloween with Sarah. She was just like a 521 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: police officer. She was the hottest thing in town, like, 522 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, my shorts could not have been shorter. 523 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: But she was a smoke show. And so I think 524 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: that's why they felt so comfortable making fun of her 525 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: in this episode, because she clearly knew that she was 526 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: a babe. Well she's a heartbreakingly pretty and then she's 527 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: like she's like okay, yeah, you can put stuff all 528 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: over my face. It's fine. Most of us were like, Wow, 529 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: what must it be like to feel that confident? Cool? 530 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: That's cool. But she's a mom now too, she just 531 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: had babies. It's fun to keep up with everybody and 532 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: see our evolution and know that we were all punk 533 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: kids together, you know, pretending to be high schoolers forever, 534 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: and now we're mom forever. That's what we do now, 535 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: I will say, speaking of confidence, I loved I loved 536 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: when we were having that sweet mom went in the 537 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: hot tub in the pool and Hailey walks out for 538 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: the first time in the tree hill Ravens cheerleading costume, 539 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: and Brooks says, tutor, girl, you look bitchen bitching. And 540 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Haley doesn't shy away or make it back girls like 541 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: in the Amy Schumer skit, like the girls are like, 542 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: oh this no. Haley is like, yeah, I kind of do, 543 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: don't on And I was like, own it, own it, 544 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: own it. It was so nice. It was so fun 545 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: to put on a cheerleading uniform and feel like I 546 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: was part of the group, you know, and feel like 547 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I mean, I Haley was not 548 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be a cheerleader. She was like something else. 549 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: And so to be able to play with you guys 550 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: for a little bit and do that, I thought that 551 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: was really fun. It was it was new and I 552 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: to get dressed up and put my hair in a 553 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: ponytail and you know, a little like fake eyelashes, and 554 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: it was fun. I loved that joy. Did it make 555 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: a difference in how you felt on set once you 556 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: joined the squad because you got to sit in the 557 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: features with Craig which was also pleasing also fun? Yeah, 558 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: but yeah it did. I mean, I think I think 559 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I've always been very uncomfortable most of the time in life. Always, 560 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: so I'm like, only just about five years ago I 561 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: started turning a corner and being like, wait, I don't 562 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: give um you know. So I think no matter where 563 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: I was, there was always an element of being uncomfortable 564 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: and over analyzing and all that. But I had fun, 565 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think being able to feel like I 566 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: was part of the popular kid's crew a little bit more, 567 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: and you know, hanging out with all of you guys 568 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: and um, being able to stay stay after be a 569 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: part of the cheer rehearsal. So I didn't feel like 570 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I was missing out on something you all got together. 571 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: Well yeah, now I know, but you know, then it 572 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh man, they get to bond because there 573 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: they have all they have their cheer rehearsals and they 574 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: have this little club, and so that was kind of 575 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: that was fun to be able to be a part 576 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: of that. I thought it was also cool for the 577 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: storyline too. I liked showing that Haley, you know, the 578 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Haley feeling torn between her friendship with Lucas and making 579 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: sure that she was making time for her boyfriend. And 580 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: that was to adult, you mean, like, this is how 581 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Lucas was fantastic. Yes, And you know 582 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: what else I loved about it, Haley saying to him, 583 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: I don't spend more time with Nathan and you spent 584 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: with Brooke, Like she without saying it, she calls him 585 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: on his basics standard. Yeah, the double standard of him 586 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: saying you're not allowed to change, but I am. And 587 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: she's like, that's not cool. You did this, I'm doing this. 588 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: We're growing up. And in a way, her saying that 589 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: kind of diffuses the whole thing. And then by the 590 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: end of the episode, everyone's being friends. It's such a 591 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: it's such a phenomenal way to like let the air 592 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: out of the balloon, and and and you did it 593 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: so tenderly, but with a with a boundary. She's really 594 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: owning her She's owning her journey, which I loved about her. 595 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: I loved that she was unabashably like, you know, it's 596 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: it's nerve racking, it's scary. I'm not sure how to 597 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: do this. I don't I don't want to hurt anybody. 598 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't. You know, we're both stepping into this thing 599 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: where we used to be kind of the losers on 600 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: the outskirts, and now we're both in with the popular 601 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: kids and trying to find our way. And there's drama, 602 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: and but she owned her journey and it. She didn't 603 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: make apologies for herself. She didn't try and please everybody. 604 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: She just was like, I'm I'm just going one day 605 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: at a time and this is where I am, and 606 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm owning it. Yeah. I love that. I have 607 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: a theory. I think that Haley is a time traveler 608 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: and is actually from the future because she's person who 609 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: is exhibiting values what you are richeld Mike Adams and 610 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: then time travel. Oh god, I love it. You're a 611 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: time traveler. That's the only thing one who was missing 612 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: time travel. Honestly, we jumped. We jumped every single shark, 613 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: but a time machine. So that would have been the 614 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: most amazing final episode. By the way, we all climb 615 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: into a DeLorean. That's why Peyton didn't come to brook 616 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: S wedding. She was time traveling, guys. She was like 617 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: a Bill and ted we need a reboot special just 618 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: for this, just to time travel. Why not get it's 619 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: so good? Wait wait, but comedy aside. I actually do 620 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: have to say, watching this, I wish we'd had time 621 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: to watch the episodes when they were airing, because we 622 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: never got to see them. Were on Tuesdays at eight pm. 623 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: We were like working, we were working. But I in 624 00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: watching Hayley assert herself and owned she deserves to have 625 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: experiences of trial and error. I'm like, oh, man, if 626 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: anybody had taught me that when I was a kid, 627 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: that would have been cool. But would we have listened. 628 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of youth. That's why youth has 629 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 1: wasted on the young, right, Like if we had known. 630 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: But even if we had known, would we have listened? 631 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Because I sure has Hell, no, I got a lot 632 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: of advice that I never listened to and wish I had, 633 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't want to listen, you know, 634 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: so I think that's part of the day. Haley is 635 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: described by Lucas and this is like the part where 636 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: we're all like that guy. He's like, she used to 637 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: be totally original, Haley, when the heck, like the heck 638 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: you used to be totally original, Lucas, you big Lucas. 639 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: All I hear is she used to only talk to you, 640 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: and now she talks to other people. And you don't 641 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: like he's feeling a little egg. Boys do that, right, 642 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: feel they feel extra territorial. You know who doesn't do that? 643 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: Jake Jagelski. If if Jake Chigelski could walk on water, 644 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that would be in one tree hill. We, 645 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: like I said, we've jumped every other shark. Okay, time 646 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: travel walking on water. We we have to keep a 647 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: list for what might come someday. Is Um the person 648 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: who's allowed to be perfect? Do you know what I mean? Like, 649 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: there are no flaws with Jagelski, which can be irritating. Um. 650 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: He's he'll be a bit of a martyr. In season 651 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: three when he tells Peyton to go back with Lucas, 652 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: which is super frustrating. Um, but for right now, the 653 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: fact that he's like next door to the girls and 654 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: the door opens up and he's like not a threat 655 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: at all. It's like it's next door. You're so fun, 656 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, And he's no talking about his ex who 657 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: just showed up on his doorstep in the last episode. 658 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: How did we not open the episode with that moment 659 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: that's so crazy that he doesn't want to tell any 660 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, he's not a talker. I think maybe 661 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: he's a time traveler too. Yeah, I know, Nicki's a secret, 662 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: but I just I don't know. It was such a 663 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: good cliffhanger that to open the episode and not be 664 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: right back. There was no deodor written. That's just sparkle pits. 665 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: Sparkle Pits, sparkle pits. Oh my gosh, that's the name 666 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: of this podcast episode. Yes, you're welcome. Actually, there's a 667 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: moment in this whole cheerleading storyline which feels really important 668 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: to call out for our fans and listeners because it 669 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: made us cackle. There's a lot of very great comedy 670 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: and I will say again shows back on track and 671 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: I know I keep repeating it, but I'm excited. Get 672 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: over it. Um. The writers gave like a lot of 673 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: good comedy, and I feel lucky, like as Brooke, I 674 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of good comedy in this episode. It's 675 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot of like her. It's it's her anxiety. It's 676 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: like we gotta witness. We're gonna go Tanya Harding. It's 677 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: like she's son. It's so ridiculous, but it's so charming, 678 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: and and the comedy was great. And then there is 679 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: a moment that is clearly written for comedy, but it's 680 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: ridiculous because Peyton brings Haley in and it's like she's 681 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: going to fill in, and it's like this isn't gonna work. 682 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: And then it's like we're gonna stay up all night. 683 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: We need black coffee. Sleep is our enemy. Tutor girl, 684 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do something about that hair. Oh 685 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: my god, right, and the three of us started cackling 686 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: because in this episode, out of maybe any episode ever, 687 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: Joy and I have the exact same hair. You guys, 688 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: it is it is the same color, it is the same, 689 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: it is in a straight, full blow out, the same 690 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: We gotta do something about that hair and clearly mine 691 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: also like ridiculous. I love it. I love this about 692 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: Brooke get away with it. Brooke could be the one 693 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: who could be totally wild and irrational and crazy, but 694 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: you still loved her because you saw the little girl 695 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: in her and that was so endearing, and you know, 696 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: you always it was like your best friend who's like 697 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: over dramatic and wild and crazy, but you still love 698 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: her because you see you see the little girl in 699 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: her that you just love so much, and and that 700 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: that never goes away. You know, the wonder that's in her, 701 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: that that never goes away. So even when she's barking 702 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: at people and being you know, snide and whatever, in 703 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: the next moment, she can turn around and smile and 704 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I don't know why it 705 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: makes so crazy today. I'm sorry, I love you, okay, 706 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, oh I god, that's exactly. And I think 707 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: because some of it, like on the page, it's like, Hayley, 708 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: we have to fix your hair, and then we're standing 709 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: there and we have the same hair. So I think 710 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: inadvertently I wish I'd have played that. I wish we 711 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: had been able to look at each other like but 712 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: it like the ridiculousness of what they would write that 713 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: wasn't real. I think gave me, as a performer, the 714 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: space to lean into, like, I gotta make this endearing 715 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: because it's utterly ridiculous your pop talk right before the competition, 716 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: where you're like Teresa's last words to us, where this 717 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 1: sucks and this will suck if we lose, like it's perfect, 718 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: it's perfect, because it's not. Guys, we have to do 719 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: this for Teresa. Oh my god, oh my god. And 720 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: it did suck, I promise, yeah, you guys. We didn't 721 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: even get Sparkle deodorant like gifted to us, No, because 722 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: because our dance sucked. Joy. Maybe if we danced a 723 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: little harder, we would have gotten some Sparkle pits. We 724 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: would have gotten some gift bags. They were like, send 725 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: them home, don't give them still naked? Is this something 726 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to google right now? Are we gonna 727 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: have to buy it on eBay? I do not want 728 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: fifteen or eighteen year old deodorant. That is not I 729 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: would like to put one stick in a shadow box 730 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: frame next to my teeny tiny cut out of Paul 731 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: Johansson as dance trigger treat um. Gross what I also 732 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: noticed in this episode, which felt like a chick did 733 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: not write, um is it Brooke and Peyton or at 734 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: odds like crazy at odds And the last episode was 735 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: like I hate your face, I'm not your friend, don't 736 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: look at me. And even though she still hates me, 737 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: we still have to be in all the same shots 738 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: together and so like we're next to we like I'm 739 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: literally on top of you, hovering like a psychopath, just 740 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: like but you will, you know, like street stalking you. 741 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: But that's what you say at the end, and actually 742 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: I thought, maybe maybe that makes up for it. The 743 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: thing you're talking about now that I think about it 744 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: is creepy. But I like what they wrote, which was 745 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: when I said, it's essentially the calm down right, Like, look, 746 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: it was fun to have something to focus on. But 747 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: you did this horrible thing and we're not friends. And 748 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: I thought that line was so simple and so poignant, 749 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: and the way you delivered it was so beautiful. And 750 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: you just said, look, maybe you're not my friend, but 751 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm your friend and I'm going to prove it to you. 752 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, it's great. Oh so many 753 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: people have wanted to hear that from people they've loved 754 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: and been hurt by and probably haven't and I I 755 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: loved that moment. I like that moment. It's you know, 756 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: the Brooke Payton relation and ship is so complex, and 757 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: so I like when they give us those little just 758 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: really simple moments, you know, like if another teenager said that, 759 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: when teenagers say vulnerable things like that, that's a risk 760 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: that big deal, And so our show doesn't have to 761 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: be about like I'm in the hospital and I almost died, 762 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: Like those little moments in parking lots are just as important. 763 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: And so I I really liked that scene, and I 764 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: like the Brooke Peyton journey. Do you guys want to 765 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: talk about some gossip? Yeah, I love gossip. What's the gossip? Well, 766 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: the gossip is that, um well, as you know, and 767 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: you wouldn't bring it up because it's up to me 768 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: to bring it up. But I was dating somewhere while 769 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: we were someone from Wilmington's while we were filming this episode, 770 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: and um, without with I don't think I was engaged yet, 771 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: was that No, I think we were on the way 772 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: and we didn't like that guy. We didn't like it, 773 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: and I know we made a signal to be like 774 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: are we talking about this? But you're talking about it, 775 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: We're in I'm talking about I mean, I didn't repect 776 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: to me to bring up but that's what I mostly 777 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: remember from behind the scenes of this of this you know, 778 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: Sparkle Classic or whatever, this trip, because um, I think 779 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: he worked a lot in Myrtle Beach or something. Anyway, 780 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: it came down to hang out. But like I never 781 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: heard the behind the scenes, like what how you guys 782 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: all felt about her, what you all thought, because I 783 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: was like isolating myself, so I didn't I don't know 784 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: what happened and how like dating him, like you were 785 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: in the throes of romance, and all I remember is 786 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: this dude showing up and coming to our hair and 787 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: makeup trailer and all of us looking at each other 788 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: like who's this guy? Because he he was very territorial 789 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: out of the gates and we were like, who is this? 790 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: She's ours, Like this is our person and we haven't 791 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: vetted you and we don't know. Yeah, And I don't 792 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: know why I was like, come on in the hair 793 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: and makeup to I mean, I had been around this 794 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: business long enough to know that you don't like have 795 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: your friends and family just come hang out in the trailer. 796 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: Usually want us to rip them apart. Maybe maybe in 797 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: the back of your mind you wanted us to interview. 798 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I did. And obviously I don't want to disparage anyone. 799 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: He was a sweet guy, a good dude. He was 800 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: handsome and successful and you know it was there was 801 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with him. It was just that we were 802 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: not the right match. Like we were very different places 803 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: in our journey, you know, and so it didn't work out, 804 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: and that was as it should be. But I do 805 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: know that everybody kind of was how didn't have a 806 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: great vibe and was like a little concerned uniform. You 807 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: don't have to be with him, I just do it. 808 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: I know. It's so weird. Hillary, this gave us a 809 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: bridge because you didn't like what was happening in my 810 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: person didn't. Shure didn't and this us both hating Joy's boyfriend. 811 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: That's right, so we can tell us the bridge and 812 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: and suddenly you were like, yeah, you know, how to 813 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: spot a bad situation? Was like maybe, and we were 814 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: we were like trying to swim back towards each other, 815 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: and this was this was kind of our anyway. I'm 816 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: so glad that I could be a bridge s treaker. Listen, 817 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: I and my bad choices to having firm opinions about 818 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: things and my firm opinions about You've never been wrong. 819 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: My firm opinions about Sophia's relationship and my firm opinion 820 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: about Joy's relationship maybe didn't make me the nicest person 821 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: to be around, and so I apologize for that. But 822 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: I also am glad that I pushed back a little 823 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: bit because you both deserved better. I love you. That's 824 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: what you want your girlfriends for, you know, people to say, 825 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, what I will say is that when you're 826 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: young and you're new, and you've like just hatched and 827 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: you have good behind your ears, you don't know like 828 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: you're you're either like a duckling or a bull in 829 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: a china shop. You don't know how to communicate. And 830 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: for the tumult and the like good and the bad 831 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: of trying to messily advocate for each other, what I 832 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: like is that even when we couldn't hear it, when 833 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: we were babies, we we always trusted each other. Even 834 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: if we were mad, there was love and we always 835 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 1: trusted each other. And so it's not lost on any 836 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: of us that now after all these years, like the 837 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: first person any of us calls when we have any 838 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: to talk about our life is each other. Because it's like, well, 839 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: you saw the dumbest thing I ever did You go 840 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: to that bad Remember that time I almost destroyed my life? 841 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: You guys are there. Let us you lessen to you 842 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: out there. You know, as a young person, if all 843 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: your friends are you know, a good chunk of your 844 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 1: friends have red flags about your relationship. Please listen, Please 845 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: take it seriously that the other person the relationship is 846 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: like the worst or you know, evil or anything. It 847 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: just means it's like it might not be right. You 848 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: just means it's not for you. Because here's what I'll say. 849 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: There is There really is. And I don't mean this 850 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: to be hyperbolic or saccharin or any of it. There 851 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: is somebody for everybody. Sometimes when you're young, you're you're 852 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: not as a tuned to the specificities of your puzzle 853 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: pieces yet, so you really you're like, this almost fits it, 854 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: it's close, and it's like it's actually not close. If 855 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit, it's really not it's a terrible idea. 856 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: Houses that don't fit together fall down. It's not to 857 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: say you're never going to argue, You're never going to 858 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: have things to work out. I mean you are. There 859 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of things, you know, when you partner 860 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: up with somebody, you're meant to be kind of clashing 861 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: up against each other in order to make each other 862 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,959 Speaker 1: better people. And that's part of the journey of a relationship. Yeah, yeah, 863 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: to go. So it doesn't mean that there should never 864 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: be a fight. Actually, I think if you're not fighting ever, 865 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: you probably have a huge problem in your relationship. You're 866 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: sleeping with other people. Yeah, something's going on. If you've 867 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: never had an argument, one or both of you might 868 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: be a serial killer. But yes, I agree. I agree 869 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: with what you're saying. This whole friend that tells you 870 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: I don't like your relationship do it because they love you. 871 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, it brings me to the 872 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: circle back of these relationships, these friendships that are being 873 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: pressure tested. Hayley standing up for herself and saying I 874 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: deserve to grow to Lucas is a big deal. And 875 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: Brooke leaning into you know, a decade and a half 876 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: of best friendship with Peyton and then saying I'm still 877 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: not ready to forgive you it's actually I mean we 878 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: said this in the last episode, like why have we 879 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: not seen Brooke crying about what happened her? And it's 880 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: at the end of this episode. Those photos beautiful shot 881 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: with the mirror from the chandelier and those photos of 882 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 1: beautifully another great shot. I mean, how gorgeously set up 883 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,959 Speaker 1: was that. Yes, I was so happy to see Brooke 884 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: finally letting her guard down by herself and just letting 885 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: it out. Broke my heart. It was so beautiful. And 886 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know when we get into this one. 887 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: Dwayne Clark directed this so beautifully for you guys at home, 888 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the children listening. Dick Clark is Dwayne 889 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: Clark's dad, Dick Clark of like, you know, American band 890 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: stand That's right. I forgot about that. And so he 891 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: comes from like legendary pop culture and I think he 892 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: probably had a really good understanding of pop culture. And 893 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: and that's what our show was. It was like, how 894 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: did teenagers communicate with each other? How do they communicate 895 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: with music? How do they communicate in their like high 896 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: school setting. His entire family lineage was you know, based 897 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: in that it was their family business. Yeah, so that 898 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: that inherent just understanding of how to communicate not just 899 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: what's on the page, but more. I thought it was 900 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: so beautiful and and there's this ending that again feels 901 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: like what we did best. Where we go from this 902 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: moment of Keith coming in and seeing Karen and Larry 903 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: are going, oh maybe I've been replaced of Haley, painful 904 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: of of you know, Brooke, Peyton, Lucas, Haley, Nathan, all 905 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 1: of them in the parking lot like the Core five 906 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 1: having this experience, Brooke going home, having her her tears. 907 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: Luke is taking the court again at Nathan's advice, by 908 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: the way to push through the pain to start training. 909 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: And then Nathan gets the apartment. The the is capitalized. 910 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: Nathan gets the apartment where where so many things take 911 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: place over the years to come. You guys, did you 912 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: know anybody growing up that lived on their own? I did, Well, 913 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: you lived on her own? She was like, that's what 914 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm own apartment when I was a senior. 915 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: Freezy like, how did that happen? Well, she was on 916 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: a TV show. Yeah, I was in a series. I mean, financially, 917 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 1: that's how that happened. Didn't you have to move to 918 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: New York though to do your series. Um, it was 919 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: a soap and I the first year I did, my 920 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: mom was terrified for me to have my own apartment. 921 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: So I ended up living in my own place in 922 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: Hackensack instead of moving to New York City, which was 923 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: the biggest mistake I could have made, because cons the 924 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,439 Speaker 1: commune was bad. But also I was so isolated out there. 925 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I didn't have a bunch of 926 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: friends in Hackensack, New Jersey. I had friends in my 927 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 1: hometown that I was in, and then I had friends 928 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: in the city. And she was just afraid of me 929 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: being in New York. And you know, I was seventeen 930 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: and whatever. You know. You listen to your mom, joy 931 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: you sound like an old timey character. Well, I didn't 932 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: have a bunch of friends in Hackensack. If there's anybody 933 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: in Hackensack that wants to be friends with Jorian's not 934 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 1: too late, you're like, But I did go to Paramus 935 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 1: and shot at the outlets. I love those outlets, by 936 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: the way, anybody in Paramus, I love it. I love 937 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey and I loved Hackensack. But I should have 938 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: had an apartment in New York City. Which I had 939 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 1: eventually did the next year, I moved to New York. 940 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: But why were we talking about that? Oh? Yeah, so 941 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: that's so I was commuting. I was commuting back and forth. 942 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: But I was the only person I knew that did that. 943 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know any of high schoolers that 944 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: was on their own, like like Brooke apparently does, even 945 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: though we've never seen her family in Payton, certainly does it. 946 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: And now Nathan, the one person had two parents on 947 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: his own, he's like, bye, I feel like we have 948 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things to talk about that perhaps we 949 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: should do after we close this podcast over a glass 950 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: of wine. But we have some listener questions, and we 951 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: have a question from daniel that actually just made me 952 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: giggle hard because it's I feel attacked but also seen. Um. 953 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: Danielle says, with this podcast, we've found out that Peyton 954 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: can't really draw. Shut up, Yes I can. Well, I 955 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: don't know why anybody said this because I didn't draw 956 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: those pigs. Oh that's what it is. Okay, Okay, I'm 957 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: gonna edit Danielle's question. In this podcast, we found out 958 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: Peyton didn't do her own drawings and that Hailey would 959 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: be a bad tutor. Yeah, because remember I was saying, 960 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,399 Speaker 1: I like I don't have the patience and like math 961 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: is would not be tutor you in history or English 962 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: or spelling. A punctuation tutor, I think is important these days. 963 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: If you're ether, then on Twitter. But that's a separate conversation. 964 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 1: You're you're they're there, Um, Danielle says our Brooks sewing 965 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: skills reeled Sophia know how to sew. I don't know 966 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: the answer to this either, do Joy and Hillary? Guys, 967 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: all I want is to know how to sew, and 968 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how. Maybe we can teach you. We 969 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: can teach you. However, I am the kind of person 970 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: who will try something on and go. This would be great. 971 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: If this needs to be taken in, this needs to 972 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: be handed to sleep should be the like I can design. 973 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: I love design. I can't sew or draw past a 974 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: stick figure at all. So no no project runway for you. 975 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: I've seen you draw ish. I think you're being very 976 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: nice handwriting, that's kind of that's like drawing words, yes, 977 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: also very you can draw words shapes. You Know. What 978 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: I will say is I'm very good at spatial math, 979 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: like trigonometry. If you need a person to joy trigonometry, trigonometry, geometry, 980 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: spatial math. I can pack a suitcase, I'll get twice 981 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: as much in it as any other person. I can 982 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: unpack and organize a house for you. I have a 983 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: girlfriend who I was doing a job with, who was 984 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: very pregnant and miserably sick and moving. Her and her 985 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: husband were moving, and that sweet angel that she's married 986 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: to was working for a stint in New York at 987 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: the time. Hacked this woman's whole house. Well, you also 988 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: have thirty seven other jobs. Yeah, you did, you did. 989 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: I packed up their whole apartment, and then every night 990 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: after work, for three hours every day until it was done. 991 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: I would go over to their new apartment and I 992 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: would and I would say, do you like this bowl here? 993 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: And she would a bit on the couch with a 994 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: bucket to barfin and eventually she would pass out, and 995 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: I would just be like, you know what, I'm gonna 996 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: keep going. And I unpacked their entire apartment. How all 997 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: of their art I organized, like their light bulbs and 998 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: little tupperware containers on the shelf. Oh my god, I 999 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: who am spatial math? Brooke Davis is Rachel I'm kind 1000 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: of if you put Rachel on Monica in a blender, 1001 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: that's me. I don't know what to say about it. 1002 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: I remember going to your house and seeing like things 1003 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: in shadow boxes and like framed really nicely. When I 1004 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: would just like nail to my wall and I was like, oh, sop, 1005 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,919 Speaker 1: does this like nice? That's another level. I just went, 1006 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: this is how you know that I'm a crazy person. 1007 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: The last day in l A. I had one day 1008 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles before I moved to Canada for six months. 1009 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: I took four years worth of stuff that had been 1010 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: accumulating in a bay in in my garage that needed 1011 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,919 Speaker 1: to be framed to the framer. Of course you did. 1012 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, obviously this is what I should 1013 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: do on my last day in l A. Because I 1014 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: said to the lady, you have six months, I have 1015 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: no rush. You just frame all this whenever I haven't 1016 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: had time. Here. We are here, we are, we had 1017 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: a great day together. Anything like. I remember being so 1018 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: impressed seen you had vintage bathing suits framed in your 1019 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: house that I was like, oh, that's really cool. If 1020 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: you could sew anything, what would you sew? Like, Oh, yeah, 1021 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: you are so I love a suit. I would love 1022 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: to be able. I want to be able to like 1023 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: cuff a jacket, him a pant. I need a lesson, Joy, 1024 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I need a lesson. We can help you. A treasurer 1025 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: of Future Homemakers of America at Sterley Middle School in 1026 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: five Hilary Burton, you only get cuter to me. It's 1027 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: so true, I'm gonna fight. Did they have Future Homemakers 1028 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: of America in California or New Jersey? Or is that 1029 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: just like a southern thing. I've definitely heard about New Jersey. Yes, 1030 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: I did. Four h I did like the full blown 1031 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: agriculture because I was in California, so they were like, 1032 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,439 Speaker 1: learned to grow vegetables. They didn't care if we learned 1033 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: how to stitch anything. We got you. Maybe we just 1034 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: need a special live event just to learn how to sell. 1035 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine we're going to dress in old timey 1036 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: dresses with bustles and high colors. Cameo pins so good? 1037 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: I love it, cameo wait what if on our next 1038 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: drama Queens Live, we dress up in old timey clothes 1039 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and we learned how to make pajamas jama down because 1040 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: on our first one we did pajamas. Guys, I'm just 1041 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: saying we have a theme here and we should stick 1042 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: to I'm gonna crochet a neckline. Don't worry, all right, Danielle, 1043 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 1: thanks for your gripin spin spin a wheel. We're gonna 1044 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: spin are most likely too? What do we got? Oh 1045 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Man become president? President of what? Most? I need to 1046 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: become president? But like of what of what? Well? I mean, 1047 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: if we're saying the president, who is most likely to 1048 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: become the president? I guess future homemakers of America? I 1049 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: called DIBs. However, Yeah, who in the show was government minded? 1050 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: I know what would it be? Lisa? What was her 1051 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 1: characters name Millie? I don't know was she in No? 1052 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's g g oh, yeah, that's interesting 1053 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: on the show. I feel like it's also again mouth, 1054 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, why does he fit every category? He really does? 1055 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: He's perfect. Mouth is really the answer if all else fails, 1056 01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the ANSWER's mouth? What about well Lindsay. Lindsey was like, um, 1057 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, like a book editor published, you know, she 1058 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,439 Speaker 1: worked for like a but she was certainly the most 1059 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: adult and like together character that we'd had. Why do 1060 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I feel like though Lindsay would become like the president 1061 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: of the Guggenheim Museum. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you 1062 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, yeah, she would be the 1063 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: chic director of an art institute. She was sophisticated and 1064 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: smart and savvy and like new and walk away and like, yeah, 1065 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: just she was a grown up. What about Dan? Oh Christ, 1066 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: do we really need a Dan president? I mean, we've 1067 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: had one. I think we could. I just feel like 1068 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: it's possible. I feel like it's possible. It's all I'm saying, 1069 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: It is possible. Yeah, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna finish 1070 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: my pad tie and my wine. Sorry, I've been eating 1071 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: this whole time. But this has been real fun and 1072 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: we're so glad that you joined us. All. Yeah, thanks 1073 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: for having dinner with us. Um it's been an ed 1074 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: a mommy night for me. Friends. Uh but yeah, what 1075 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: do we have next week? What do we got eighteen 1076 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: to wish? Impossible things? Dreams? Impossible dream I actually don't know. 1077 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't know either, because that was such a standalone episode. 1078 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Where are we going? This episode didn't tease anything. It 1079 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: was episode. Yeah, we're unresolved with Nicki and Jake. We're 1080 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 1: still a little wishy Washy on Weather, Lucas and Nathan 1081 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: are actually friends with each other or not. Um Peyton 1082 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: and Brooks friendship is still up in the air. It 1083 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: hangs in the bottom. And Nathan's got an apartment which 1084 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: for sure he's gonna throw a party in at some 1085 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: point soon. Oh, I know what's going to happen. I 1086 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I do. I'm not going 1087 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to ruin it, but you guys, you're gonna like it. 1088 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Watch the episode and tune in with 1089 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: us next week. When I tell you I have no idea, 1090 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: it's like he was on this show. I'm all right. 1091 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 1: We love you guys. We'll see you next week. Hey, 1092 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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