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Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com. Slash Jenkins and Jones, Nico

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Speaker 1: Harrison MAVs GM doing a like off the record, not

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Speaker 1: off the record, but unfilmed, unrecorded round table to like

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Speaker 1: allegedly defend himself over the Luca thing, and then like

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Speaker 1: Tim McMahon took the skin off his body, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think man's a great journalist, but he just like,

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Speaker 1: by your own words, you're trying to create this window,

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Speaker 1: but you've now completely fucked that window. You know, how

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Speaker 1: is this better?

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Speaker 2: You know? It just is Tim, And the thing is Tim.

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Speaker 2: Tim's the guy who's who was notoriously hard on Luca.

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Speaker 2: And even he was like, Nico, fuck this one.

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Speaker 3: Up, you know, I mean go ahead, Oh I was

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Speaker 3: gonna say I heard that ownership was the like Steer

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Speaker 3: steered the ship for it to be a private kind

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Speaker 3: of closed doors because that was so freaking weird, Like

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Speaker 3: you can't record this, you can't film this. We're having

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Speaker 3: a closed door like only like close insiders meeting. It's

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Speaker 3: just like that's not even good pr Like why would

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Speaker 3: you do that, but then apparently that was coming. The

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Speaker 3: directive was from ownership, not Nego. Not that I want

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Speaker 3: to give Nico any credit, but I.

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Speaker 1: Think that they gave him both the directive to go

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Speaker 1: talk to people, but also, we don't want to see

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Speaker 1: a million clips if you looking like a fucking idiot,

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Speaker 1: so we're not going to let anyone film it. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the worst way, not.

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Speaker 4: The worst decision to go closed door, because we were

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Speaker 4: all laughing at all the transcripts, but if we had

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Speaker 4: seen video of him saying it instead of those transcripts,

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Speaker 4: it might be worse.

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Speaker 1: I think it's worse. I think it's worse. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, do it. I think, like

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Speaker 1: I think the best option would have been from a

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Speaker 1: from their pr perspective, the best option would have been

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Speaker 1: to not do anything. I think, once you do it,

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Speaker 1: why have the disembodied Tyler head just reading like just

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Speaker 1: just really like the dude. The quote that killed me

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Speaker 1: was the you know, famously, we only got to see

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Speaker 1: one half of basketball from what this team was going

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Speaker 1: to look like before the injury sort of pulled it apart.

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Speaker 1: But his thing was like that was a championship level

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Speaker 1: team for two and a half quarters, Like he literally.

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Speaker 3: This fucking guy after making the NBA Finals like nine months.

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Speaker 4: I liked the I liked the exchange when Nick tim

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Speaker 4: McMahon asked him, you talked about this three year window,

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Speaker 4: but in doing so, you you've traded away your picks

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Speaker 4: more than three years down the road, Like how is

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Speaker 4: that thinking about the franchisees long term? And he just goes,

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Speaker 4: can you repeat the question?

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Speaker 2: What what is this?

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Speaker 1: Damn?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, bro. If you're having a press

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Speaker 2: conference two months after you made a trade, then ribe

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Speaker 2: and close up to the public, you might have fucked

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Speaker 2: that trade. Yeah. I think that's a pretty good rule

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Speaker 2: of thumb there. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Also the timing, Like, so the press conference happened like

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Speaker 3: right after the Lakers found out that they got basically

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Speaker 3: the most ideal possible bracket for the playoffs, Like they

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Speaker 3: don't have they only have to play one of Denver,

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Speaker 3: the Clippers in Oklahoma City, and then in the first

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Speaker 3: round they get Minnesota, who's like a great matchup for them,

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Speaker 3: and in the second round they either get Houston or

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Speaker 3: Golden State. So it's like like basically the Lakers' path

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Speaker 3: to the Western Conference Finals or beyond was just like

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Speaker 3: laid out for them in like perfect, like you know,

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Speaker 3: like happenstance fashion, and in the same breath Nico's giving

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Speaker 3: this like closed doors, very contentious ress conference about why

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Speaker 3: the season went down the toilet. Although they did play,

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Speaker 3: I mean shout out to Ad. He had an awesome,

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Speaker 3: you know game last night against the very depressing Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 3: In Sacramento, they did not like the beam spoiler alert,

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Speaker 3: no beam was lit.

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Speaker 1: It was just the usual methane count part.

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Speaker 3: I heard their team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no fancy beam, just the classic Sacramento beam.