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Speaker 2: And after that, all right, there was It was an

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Speaker 3: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney.

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Speaker 3: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father,

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Speaker 3: is called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems are never

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Speaker 3: our general responsors, Jen Andrews, welcome to Memphis.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. You just got in yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I cried every day for a year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But like I said, my family was all from there,

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Speaker 3: Charlotte is home at this point. Got it? So I

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Speaker 3: One day you never you never know.

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Speaker 3: So you've got you You just living life, I mean

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Speaker 3: Well I was close, right, very close. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a grace thing on earth.

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Speaker 4: I have to a pedicure, right, gosh.

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Speaker 3: So it's one of the guilty pleasures, Lisa allows me.

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Speaker 3: No I did not. In fact, I think I heard

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Speaker 3: sit there with all these women and all right, cashies.

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Speaker 3: She ever had a pedicure? That a boy? That a boy?

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Speaker 3: Is it not one of the greatest experiences on earth?

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Speaker 5: You told all you told all the guys this in

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Speaker 3: I'll tell anybody. I'm telling the whole country right now

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Speaker 3: that I love a pedicure.

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Speaker 1: Why are we not recording there? I didn't get invited

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Speaker 1: for a petticare.

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Speaker 4: Hey, carbon some healthcare.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So, yeah, so she found the nod on my foot.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this guy is I think the world

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Speaker 1: this is a benign cyst, but due to the location,

443
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: we should probably operate and remove it. So, obviously, being

444
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 1: the vain person who liked high heels, at one point

445
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get rid of this. I could wear

446
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 1: my cute shoes and be comfortable. And again I didn't

447
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 1: have pain, so I.

448
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 3: Had How old were you?

449
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 4: I was thirty.

450
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 3: Thirty yep, two kids, two kids, living life. Yep, everything's fine. Yep,

451
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 3: thanks mom. You're right. I shouldn't borrow trouble. This is

452
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: just a banign, golf ball size pain in the butt

453
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: on top of my foot. We're getting it gone. Yeah,

454
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: because I want to wear my cute.

455
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 4: Shoes pretty much.

456
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. I think that's exactly how

457
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,159
Speaker 3: everybody would react.

458
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. So I was calm, it was fine.

459
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: I went for the surgery, they removed the mass, and

460
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 1: then ten days post off, I was asked to come

461
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: back in that they were going to be checking my incision,

462
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 1: making sure my foot was healing properly. So I went

463
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: in with my seventeen month old daughter and my three

464
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: month old son, and thank god, my mom was.

465
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: There that day.

466
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 1: And he actually called to have me come in to

467
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 1: tell me that I had a rare form of sarcoma,

468
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: which is a rare cancer without a care, and they

469
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: didn't without a care, without a care, sarcoma does not

470
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: have a cure.

471
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: So and you've got your kid with you.

472
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: I have two kids with me, my seventeen month old

473
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: and my three month old. So he said, well, we

474
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: didn't know we were doing a cancer surgery because all

475
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: of your biopsies came back benign. So the whole mass

476
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,479
Speaker 1: was benign except for the thin layer at the bottom

477
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: that adhered to the top of my foot. So I

478
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 1: was sitting here processing and when he said zarcoma, I

479
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: didn't even know sarcoma meant cancer. So I said, okay,

480
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,199
Speaker 1: well what is sarcoma? He says, well, it's a rare cancer,

481
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: and I said okay. And with sarcoma, I now know

482
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know then. There's like eighty something subtypes of

483
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: sarcoma and they all react differently, and so I had

484
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: a low grade to mix awaight sarcoma, so mine was

485
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: kind of between two subtypes. So they gave me more

486
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 1: of a general diagnosis. And so I'm sitting there and

487
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: now I have two babies and I'm being told I

488
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: had cancer. And I said, okay, well, what if I

489
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: don't want to have to deal with this again? What

490
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: are my options? And in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, great,

491
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna have another surgery. This isn't really what

492
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: I want, but we'll carve out a clean margin. This

493
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of sucks, but here we are. So he said,

494
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: if you don't want to worry about this again, you're

495
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: gonna lose your right foot, and everything, like my whole

496
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: body went numb, like I couldn't even wrap my head

497
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: around the idea of being an amputee and losing a limp,

498
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: like I didn't know anyone who was an amputee.

499
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know anyone who had sarcoma.

500
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm listening to everything and then all of a sudden,

501
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: everything like I couldn't hear anything, and I see his

502
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: mouth moving and I'm trying to process what's happening.

503
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: My mom, thank God is listening, and.

504
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: I, oh, your mom is with you.

505
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 4: My mom's with me. And it was a lot to process.

506
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: And so.

507
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: Sorry you said something a couple of months ago. That's

508
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: germane the story. Yeah, he said, we didn't know we

509
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: were doing a cancer surgery because it all came back behind.

510
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 3: Does that mean they didn't scoop this layer that was

511
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: attached to your foot when they got this golf ball off, right?

512
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: No? Well, okay, so yes, So when when they did

513
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: the punch biopsies, the fifteen biopsies at once, all of

514
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: those came back behind. So if you think about, like

515
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: if I had this mass and they did fifteen different spots,

516
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: all of that came back clear, no problem. But the

517
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: thin layer at the bottom of this that they didn't

518
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: punch with any of the biopsies, I guess they just

519
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: didn't grab it deep enough. I don't know, or the

520
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: angle or whatever that was all cancers.

521
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: So in the first surgery, could they have gone deep

522
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: enough to get it and then thuslee have saved you

523
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: from any of the next step.

524
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where the conversation diverted after that,

525
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: because I said well, let's do another surgery if that's.

526
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: Not quite so. If so, why not go do it

527
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: other surgery and get that crap.

528
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: Well, then he explained to me, and we were sitting

529
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: in the room obviously, and he was like, feel the

530
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: top of your hand. It's just like the top of

531
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: your foot. He's like, all that's there is skin and bone. Intendants,

532
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: if this was in a muscle or a thigh or

533
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: your arm, we could go in and carve out more.

534
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: He's like, there's nothing really left for us to take.

535
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: He was like, but the kind of sarcoma that you had,

536
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: he said, we may have gotten all of it, but

537
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: we don't know. And he was like, this is a

538
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: slow growing it's low grade, and if it's going to

539
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: come back, it's going to come back the same way

540
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: it's started.

541
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: And we can monitor.

542
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: You and and go in and do another surgery another not.

543
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

544
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: So we felt that that was the best plan because

545
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: taking my foot off the bat would have been like

546
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: really aggressive, and I had a chance of it not

547
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: coming back, so I chose to be monitored. So with sarcoma,

548
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: it's tricky. All sarcoma's really If a lot of them

549
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: start in other areas, and if they're going to metastasize,

550
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: they'll go to your lungs. So for me, I was

551
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: scanned every three months my foot at the time not

552
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: residual limp, and every six months my lungs were scanned.

553
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: So I would do MRIs and see teased to make

554
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: sure that it wasn't spreading.

555
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: My grandmother not of cancer, but that was my grandmother's

556
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: shoes in her eighties, right. And we have Saint Jude

557
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: here in Memphis, right, so cancer is not that far

558
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 3: and me because of Saint Jude's and all Saint Jude

559
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: and all of that. But I've all when I was

560
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: reading your story, I wondered, you know, okay, good, we

561
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: might have got it. I'm a mother of two, I'm

562
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: thirty thirty one years old. I'm just going to get

563
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: scanned and make sure it doesn't come back or be

564
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: in my lungs. But that's a that's an interesting way

565
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: to live. Was there always a little sense of dread

566
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: and fear in the back of your mind constantly? I mean,

567
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: how do you live worried that something. I'm a need freak,

568
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm an organization freak, and I love finishing tasks. Because

569
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: when I finish a task, I move on and I

570
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: forget about it. Yeah, that is not something you can

571
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: ever move on. Say do you understand my question?

572
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

573
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: I do.

574
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: Cancer taught me that you can't always control everything, but

575
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: you can control your response. And that was a really

576
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: hard lesson for me to learn. So, yes, it was

577
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: hard to live worried. And anybody who has had cancer

578
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: who goes through like not even sarcoma, but any kind

579
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: of cancer, who goes through the process that I went through,

580
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: we call it scanxiety. And every time you gear up

581
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: for a scan, I mean you get anxious, you get scared,

582
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: you get you know, sometimes there's depression, there's worried, there's sadness,

583
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: there's the what ifs. I mean it's terrifying. And obviously

584
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: I was this young mom with two kids and my

585
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: whole future ahead of me, and the idea of losing

586
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: a limb or having cancer and of that.

587
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: I mean, just it's not.

588
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Going to your lungs that could kill you.

589
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy.

590
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is like, once I was diagnosed, I

591
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: was in well. So I was scanned every three months

592
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: the first year, then every six months the second year,

593
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: and I was clear. So the third year, I had

594
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: gotten to go a full year without scans, and that's

595
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: when life started to feel like a smidge more normal.

596
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: I'd come over, not no, no, no, not I'm over

597
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: it were good by any means.

598
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: I still lived with the drugs.

599
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent, and I honestly lived with the

600
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: dread until I would say this year when I was released,

601
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: but we'll get there. But I feel like for me,

602
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: every time my scans would come, I would be I

603
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: learned my patterns of behavior, Like I learned when I

604
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: would get quiet, and I learned when I would become reclusive,

605
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: and I learned that that was like my coping mechanism

606
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: to dealing with the time and getting through scans. And

607
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: I would always get like that. My friends knew. My

608
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: friends knew, like as soon as I got scheduled, like

609
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: they would mark their calendars and I would be like,

610
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the support that I had was unreal, and

611
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I know that I am so less beyond measure with

612
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: my circle, and not everybody has support like I had.

613
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: And all my friends are ten twenty thirty years plus.

614
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: And when I say their chosen family, I'll cry talking

615
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: about them because the support that I had and continue

616
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: to have is just beyond anything I could have ever

617
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: expected or felt like I deserved. But I'm thankful because

618
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: they've gotten me through. But yeah, it's scary. But unfortunately

619
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: for me at my three year scans it was December second.

620
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: And you're only having to do a year now, Yeah.

621
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 4: I want a whole year.

622
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: She got to be filmed.

623
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm definitely feeling more confident.

624
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: So like, walk in, I'm talking to my doctor, I'm

625
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: talking to the PA who I love, and we're like

626
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: she pretty much was my age and we hit it

627
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: off in the office and she was almost like my

628
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: friend in the office at this point. And so we

629
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: were just talking catching up on life and she leaves

630
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: the room and I guess my doctor was outside and

631
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: the SAME's doctor Pat and he you know, told her

632
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: name's Lenna. He told her, you know, she has a recurrence.

633
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: We have to go in and tell her. And she's like,

634
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: I just had this great conversation with her, like we're

635
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: joking around, having like how am I going to go

636
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: in there?

637
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 4: And he was like, we have to do it.

638
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: So they went in and I was very blindsided to

639
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: hear that my sarcoma came back. But not only did

640
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: it come back, it didn't come back as a peace

641
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: size nodule. It came back as a three millimeter layer

642
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: over my entire right foot, And so that was a

643
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: really the whole top of my foot.

644
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: And so I knew when.

645
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: He said that what was happening, Like he didn't even

646
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: have to tell me, and my whole body got hot

647
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: and my I remember hyperventilating. I couldn't breathe. I felt

648
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: like there was like an elephant on my chest. It

649
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: was definitely one of like the worst moments of my life.

650
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Definitely like top top three, top worst moment ever. I

651
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: mean it was horrible, and I was by myself because

652
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. I was like, oh, you're three,

653
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: like we're good. And I was like a psychopath, like

654
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I would check my foot daily, like if you knew me, No,

655
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: I was a psychopath, like think about like every day.

656
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: I was like in the morning, after I get out

657
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: of the shower, like I would press down on my

658
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: foot and I was like looking for things and.

659
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Exactly how I would have been, Yeah, I mean that's

660
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: exactly I would have I would have always checked it

661
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: and just said Okay, no, nodule, Let's.

662
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Go have a day, right exactly. And that's that's kind

663
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: of how I lived. And so I was crying in

664
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: the office with him, and we were just kind of

665
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: talking about things, and he reframed it for me, and

666
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I think this goes to show the kind of person

667
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: that he is. And all I could think about was,

668
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm going to lose a limb, Like

669
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: what does life even look like? And he said to me,

670
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: if you and I want to cry talking about this,

671
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: he was like, if you want to watch your kids,

672
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: because my kids were three and four now, and he

673
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, if you want to be here to watch them,

674
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, go to prom, graduate high school, if you

675
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: want to dance at their weddings, you're going to do this,

676
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: and you're going to be here.

677
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: And after that, sorry, there was it was an easy decision.

678
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: I guess when you frame it that way.

679
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then I I said to him, am I

680
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: going to walk again? Because I didn't know any amputees.

681
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that looked like. I didn't

682
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: know what prosthetics look like. I mean, I knew what

683
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: a prosthetics looked like, but I didn't know, like, oh,

684
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: there's different ones with different.

685
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: Activities and all the things. I was not planning getting emotional.

686
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Day and so it's an emotional thing.

687
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: It is an emotional thing. And I said to him,

688
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: am I going to walk again? And he said walk again?

689
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I hope you run, and this light bulb went off

690
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: in my head.

691
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

692
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: So then I was majorly anxiety ridden leading up to

693
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: the surgery.

694
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: How much time between that conversation or surgery?

695
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: So he said, what you have is low grade and

696
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: slow growing, so you have a little time to pick

697
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: your date. We need to pick it soon, but it

698
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be tomorrow. And so that was in December. No,

699
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, January. Yeah, January second was when I was diagnosed,

700
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: not December second.

701
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: January second, and then my surgery was March twelve.

702
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: Okay, this may sound I do not mean this insensitively. Yeah.

703
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: I like to try to put myself in the time

704
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: between that conversation and when'd you say March one twelve?

705
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: I mean were you looking down at your foot thinking

706
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: you're going to be gone? Yeah, and the loss of

707
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: your foot. I know that sounds weird, and I don't

708
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: mean it to sound.

709
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: That way about it. No, I know you don't.

710
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: And I actually have a funny story of a weirdo

711
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: doctor that I.

712
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: Saw a weirdo doctor. Yes, oh I want to hear it.

713
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: I will share. So, Yeah, it was hard.

714
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where like I needed

715
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: time to process. Talking about it was gut wrenching.

716
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: So I took to.

717
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: Blogging and I would like blog out what was going

718
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: on so all my friends and family could read it

719
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't have to repeat myself because I was

720
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: literally in survi mode.

721
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: You don't want to tell that story und times, No, it's.

722
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: Horrible, and then everyone obviously cares and wants to check

723
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: in with you. But I just didn't have the mental

724
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: capacity because I was trying to show up as a mom.

725
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: I'm trying to handle myself.

726
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm very transparent that at that time obviously, like I

727
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: needed anti anxiety and antidepressants to get through the day.

728
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any shame in that for

729
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: people who need that, And I always share that because

730
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I think there's so much negative connotation with many Yeah

731
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: there is, and that that is exactly what that stuffs

732
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: for one hundred percent. And my I obviously knew going

733
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: into it that my depression and my situation was it

734
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: was situational anxiety and situational depression. But I wasn't gonna

735
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: survive without being able to have something to get me through,

736
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: and that that's kind of that time in my life.

737
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not embarrassed about that.

738
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Two or three. You're young, yeah, I.

739
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: Was thirty three. I'm young.

740
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're young.

741
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I was super active and and all the things.

742
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: You know. It took me a little bit to wrap

743
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: my head around, like processing that this was happening to me.

744
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Then I had to go through additional testing and like

745
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: do some other stuff and prepare myself for the surgery.

746
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: And then choosing a date was really hard because he

747
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: was like text me the date, like, here are the

748
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: dates that are available for my surgeries.

749
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: Let me know which one you want. And that was

750
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: so hard.

751
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I remember I was at one of my girlfriend's houses

752
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: and our kids were playing, and I was so anxiety

753
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: ridden and I felt like nause just thinking about it,

754
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and I was so scared and even just sending this text,

755
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: like I remember, my hands were just like it was horrible.

756
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: And so finally I was like you know what.

757
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: One of my friends had sent me, like this message

758
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: of encouragement and I don't know what about what he sent,

759
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: just like hit me in the right place in my heart.

760
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do this.

761
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: I can do this. And so I texted in March

762
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: twelfth and I threw the phone down and I was like,

763
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm done.

764
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: So leading up to my surgery, I obviously knew I

765
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: was going to be on crutches, so I was like

766
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: a very active person. I took a lot of classes

767
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: like Orange Theory and things, and so I ended up

768
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: getting a personal trainer who at the time was one

769
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: of the trainers at Orange Theory, and told him like, Okay,

770
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: I really want to focus on upper body. I'm gonna

771
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: have to carry myself around. I don't know what my

772
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: life's going to look like. So me and one of

773
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: my best friends switched and we started doing all these

774
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: different kinds of workouts to prep me for things. I

775
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: started trying to figure out how can I prep my

776
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: home for this, And then the week before my surgery,

777
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I felt compelled to do this Facebook live. It was

778
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of before social media was what it is now.

779
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean it just obviously like things travel quicker now

780
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: than they did seven years ago. And so I did

781
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: this Facebook live. I don't know why I felt the

782
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: need to do this, but I did. And I asked

783
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: my friends and family to get out and move because

784
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: they could move.

785
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: Because you can.

786
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: Is like just something that stuck with me ever since

787
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: my first surgery. So like after my first surgery, every

788
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: year on that date, I would go for a run

789
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: because I would think about how I was on an

790
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: operating table and the idea of losing my foot and

791
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: losing mobility was just gut wrenching, and I wanted to

792
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: like honor myself and honor everybody who wanted to move.

793
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't, so I would always go out and run

794
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: that day. And so take foot for granted, Oh seriously, and.

795
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: Which sounds so stupid, almost say, but talking to you,

796
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy I got both my feet right now.

797
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely it should be.

798
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I don't know, So I did this

799
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Facebook live video. It's pretty much me just crying and

800
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: asking people to get out and move because you can't.

801
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: Pretty much me just bawling and saying, hey, don't take

802
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: your feet for granted. Move.

803
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I talked about how mobility can be

804
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: taken away in the blink of an eye and your

805
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: whole life can change. And my life was going to

806
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: change forever, and I didn't know what it was going

807
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: to look like, and that was really scary. And one

808
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: of my girlfriends, who lives in Atlanta, was like, we

809
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: need a hashtag hashtag move for Gen. She had commented

810
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: that in the sight. So anyways, then I like go

811
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: about my life, and my story starts to get like

812
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: picked up a little bit, and I think I had

813
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: like a news interview before maybe one or two.

814
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: And then I had my surgery.

815
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: I get to the hospital and my nurse, a nesstist

816
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: who does like the anesthesia, walks in in a move

817
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: for Gen shirt and from the hashtag moved for Gen

818
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: that my friend wrote in the thing. He came in

819
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: in a tank top that said I moved for Gen.

820
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: And the night before my surgery, my girlfriends all sent

821
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: me a group text with this collage picture and they

822
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: were all in these shirts. I'd say, I move for Gen,

823
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, Like I remember like sobbing,

824
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: and so I got to a hospital.

825
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Did that feel just like support? That feel like to you?

826
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: Like the highest form of love and support, I guess.

827
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and you didn't know your nurse at

828
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: this list.

829
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: So actually he I didn't know him well at the time,

830
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: but he lived next door to a friend of mine, so.

831
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: We had met.

832
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: It was a loose connection, but it is. Yes, dude

833
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: shows up wearing that T shirt.

834
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a picture of us and People Magazine

835
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: together with him wearing it, so it's kind of funny.

836
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: That's very cool.

837
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: So when I woke up from surgery, Dari said, I

838
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: don't know, I want to say six hours, but don't

839
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: quote me on that.

840
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: And dread, Oh my gosh, unreal. Yeah, unreal, the dread

841
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: of that day. I remember walking.

842
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Into the hospital thinking like, well, maybe I shouldn't do this,

843
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just gonna leave, And then I was like, no,

844
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm here.

845
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 4: I have to do this, like there's no choice.

846
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask this, and then I decided no,

847
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: you're a shallow jerk for asking, and then I decided

848
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: it was and then I wasn't. But now that I've

849
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: met you, I am okay. Obviously your mom you were

850
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: into working out and whatever, and so you're thinking about

851
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: your mobility you're thinking about living your life. You're thinking

852
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: about walking, You're thinking about being able to go to

853
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: your kids games and dance and travel normally and whatever

854
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: drive a car, I mean anything that requires a foot.

855
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about this driving here. Yeah, and

856
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: this is not specifically just about you, but so that

857
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: our audience members, most of whom have all ten fingers,

858
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: toes and lumbs, just for perspective and so that we

859
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: can empathize to better understand the importance of the work.

860
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: Were you also concerned about people looking at you weird

861
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: without a foot going through Target? Were you also thinking about,

862
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: you know, am I going to be as attractive as

863
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: I once was? Were you also thinking about, you know,

864
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: are people going to approach mely differently because I don't

865
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: look as whole as I once did. And I really

866
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: don't mean that sounds sensitive, but again I would feel

867
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: that way.

868
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely, I would say, you're looking at me weird.

869
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 4: I'm not looking at you weird. I'm looking at me.

870
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: I promise I'm not.

871
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I actually have like a really good response to this,

872
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: which is why I'm looking at you the way I'm

873
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: looking at you.

874
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: Go for it.

875
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Yes, all of.

876
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: These things were were of concern for me. But I

877
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: think what I realized so the I would say, two

878
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: weeks leading up to my surgery, I think I ordered

879
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: like fifteen or twenty different Maxi dresses so I would

880
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: be able to like have myself covered and nobody would

881
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: know what dresses.

882
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: MAXI dress like a long dress to the floor.

883
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Was that because you were?

884
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: Because I wanted to be able to hide it. Yeah,

885
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 4: But then my story went viral, and.

886
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I think when that happened, it was almost a blessing

887
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: in disguise because it was like not like the attention

888
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: part because I didn't care about that, but the fact

889
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: that people knew and I like so many people in

890
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: our town or area like knew what was happening to me,

891
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to go out and explain myself

892
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: to every person on the street. Obviously you're going to

893
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: get people like the one offs who like have no

894
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: filter and say stupid things.

895
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: But like I ordered all these dresses, and I was

896
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: like so.

897
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Content on like hiding and trying to be this version

898
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: of who I was, who I was losing, I mean

899
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: because literally like I was mourning the old version of me.

900
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: But then when I woke up from surgery. The first

901
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: thing I was told was get your phone. And I

902
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: was like, I haven't even looked down yet. Like I

903
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: was still medicated, yes, but it was also highly medicated

904
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: from the surgery, so like I wasn't you know, all

905
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: there yet, And I said, I just woke up and

906
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I was told, look, get your phone please. So I

907
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: got my phone and my video had been viewed. I think, like,

908
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, nineteen thousand times or twenty something.

909
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: That I can't even remember.

910
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: And I had like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

911
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: messages from people all over the world who.

912
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: Watched my video, maybe even thousands of message. I mean,

913
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: it was just.

914
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Beyond who watched my video, heard my message, felt my message,

915
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: and got out and moved the day of my surgery,

916
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: and it was anything from like classes of little girls

917
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: like in Tutuo's in a dance class holding signs that

918
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: said moved for Jen to moms and orange theory classes

919
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: or Purebard classes, or you know, a bunch of guys

920
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: going out on a run with a run group.

921
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: It was all formed.

922
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: There were kids outside playing tag and writing scooters. It

923
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: was all forms of activity. And I said in my

924
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: video like go out in your favorite form of movement,

925
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to be one way, and just

926
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: be grateful that you can do it.

927
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 4: And even if.

928
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: It's raining, like and you go on a run in

929
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: the rain that day, you should do it. And my

930
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: old office from insurance at Link Financial Group, like they

931
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: got out and walked in the rain that day. And

932
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: the impact of that, I mean the messages I got.

933
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: I got messages from people who dealt with severe depression

934
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: who said, I live in Europe and I watched your

935
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: video and I've dealt with severe depression. I haven't gotten

936
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: off the couch in two years. And I walked my

937
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: dog today and it's the best I felt. And so

938
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: the impact of my message just hit people in a

939
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: way that I never was prepared for.

940
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: But such a positive out of such a negative and.

941
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: Just no know, not organic, which makes it much more real.

942
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so all of a sudden, like there was

943
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: this redirection of focus. And for me, I think that

944
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: really helped in my healing. And so when I got home,

945
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well, everybody knows. And then all of

946
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: a sudden, like people magazines picking up my story and

947
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Today and daily Mail and all these like insane publications,

948
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: and it's like, what am I hiding? At this point,

949
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: like everybody, my story is worldwide now, so like everybody knows.

950
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 4: What am I hiding?

951
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Like I need to learn how to own this version

952
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: of me. And so that's why I did. I mailed

953
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: back all fifteen of those Maxi dresses. My mom was like,

954
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: you're crazy. I got my money back and I was like,

955
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure this out. And you know, did

956
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I have times that were hard?

957
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

958
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: Did I cry in like many dressing rooms trying on

959
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: clothes to make myself feel good and fit, and nothing did.

960
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

961
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: For like a year, it was really hard for me

962
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: to find clothes that I felt good in. But I

963
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: slowly learned to recognize and love this new version of me.

964
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: But I think what really helped with that was after

965
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: my initial like surgery, I started to meet with a

966
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: prothetist to have prosthetics made and I said, okay, well

967
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: let's talk running blades because I want to get back.

968
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: What does lose your foot mean? I mean I can

969
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: envision anything from above your knee down to just above

970
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: your ankle. You know what I mean?

971
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: So good question?

972
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: What does what does lose your foot mean, so see

973
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: what I'm.

974
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: Saying I do, and it's different for everybody. So and

975
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: this was something that kind of took me a minute

976
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: to wrap my head around. So for me, the cancer

977
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: was only in my foot, but my amputation is about

978
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: halfway up my shin.

979
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: The reason for that is my doctor knew I wanted

980
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: to be active.

981
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to have like so they

982
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: rate you K one through K four depending on how

983
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: accurate K K one.

984
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: What does K stand for?

985
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: You know, I don't really know what K stands for. Ok.

986
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: K one is like pretty much like a geriatric patient

987
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: who's trying to get from the bed to the bathroom,

988
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: to the kitchen to the couch. K four is someone

989
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: who wants to like get out, run long distances, maybe

990
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: a paralympic athlete, someone who's highly active and wants to

991
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: live as close to the lifestyle that you previously had.

992
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Got it, And obviously there's some in between.

993
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: But you were K four.

994
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I was K four. I want to do everything like

995
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: I was so determined. I was like, I'm going to

996
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: learn how to do everything I did before.

997
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm just going to learn a new way to do it.

998
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: I do the amputation planning on prosthetics to allow you the.

999
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: K for well, not necessarily to allow you the K four.

1000
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I was already like based on the questionnaire I filled out,

1001
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I was already deep like rated that us. And so

1002
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: my doctor chose the placement based on knowing the activities

1003
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to do because there are people that I've

1004
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: met through MU for Jen who have had a lower

1005
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: amputation where they have more of their limb, but they're

1006
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: not able to utilize all the different types of prosthetics

1007
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: because they don't have the space.

1008
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: That's weird. So the more you take, the more athletic

1009
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: you can.

1010
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Be kind of think the deposite, right, And I thought

1011
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: that too, But now it totally makes sense to me,

1012
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: because otherwise your hips wouldn't be.

1013
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: Aligned because you would need the space to fit the

1014
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: prosthetic under you. That makes sense.

1015
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that absolutely does make sense.

1016
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Right.

1017
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: It took me a minute too.

1018
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that concludes part one of my conversation with

1019
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: Jen Andrews, and you don't want to miss part two

1020
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: that's now available to listen to. Together, guys, we can

1021
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: change this country, but it starts with you. I'll see

1022
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: in part two