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My next guest is an 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.399 award winning legal journalists, Victims Right Advocate, and the New 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.560 York Times best selling Arthur four books. She was the 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.760 force behind CNN Headline News to operated Nancy Grace. She 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.520 now headlines Injustice with Nancy Grace on the Oxygen Channel, 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.120 which was renewed for a second season. She's the found 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.080 and publisher of Crime online dot Com, a digital platform 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.720 that investigates breaking crime news, highlights miss in people, and 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.000 help solve unsolved homicides. The iconic legal commentator and TV 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.520 journalist is on the show today to discuss her new book, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.000 Don't Be a Victim, Fighting back against America's crime Wave, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.680 Please Work with the money making Conversations a true crime 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:21.880 fighter Nancy Grace. Wow, that was some intro. I'm very flattered, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.040 but I'm also very honored today on with you, and 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.840 thank you for inviting me. Well, thank you for coming 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.399 on the show. Because I have a twenty three yeard 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.120 daughter and and i've and so I raised her in 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.480 the Nancy Grace era. Okay, watching you taking that advice, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.639 you know what I'm saying, And my wife always say, well, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.720 I said, look, look we're not gonna do it in 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.880 the Nacey aggressive, we shouldn't do that. And so when 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.040 I when I got to this book, it was kind 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.800 of like a journey down memory lane for me and 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.120 watching your career because you've always been open, You've always 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.760 been honest about your passion for making sure we don't 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.839 make the mistake or even the mistake that you have made, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.760 because you've told us you've made mistakes, and people around 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.000 you have made mistake. What was the what was the 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:09.959 core reason for writing this particular book. You know, um, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.959 that's a really good question. I'll tell you why. Because 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.880 I want to change the world. I want to make 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:24.680 a difference. And yes, trying to find missing people, especially children, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:29.840 trying to solve unsolved phramicides, trying to figure out cold cases, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.000 I guess that does make a difference. But you know what, 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.920 I was used to getting immediate gratification when I tried cases. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.520 I would work, work, work, just beat the streets to 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.160 get all the witnesses, all the information, all the evidence, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.320 like too, take it to jury, and by the end 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.680 of the trial, be it three days or three weeks 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.200 or three months, I'd have an answer, right m h. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.040 Not so when you're on TV, not so when you're 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.000 on radio, not so when you're writing articles for your website. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.240 You never really really know if you have an impact. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.240 I wanted to do more. Therefore, I wanted to take 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.080 all those years of investigating, all those years of covering 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.880 cases and try to make a difference. And that's what 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.240 I did with the book. And you really did. You 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.280 really did. And the sad part because you documented the 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.400 book with actual stories. And the reason I like that 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.039 is because a lot of people you give people advice 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.520 and they kind of blow you off. I'm just not 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.640 saying you, I'm just sending in general, you can hold 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.960 up before you blow me off. And reading this book, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.960 here's a true story, and this is what happened to 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.880 these people. And I think that was really key strategy 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.520 and putting together this book. Correct, Oh, it really is here. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.480 Here's the thing. Um. You know, I don't know if 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.760 you noticed this, but did you notice that christ always 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.720 talked in parable? You know why? Because I can understand them, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.719 even me, I get it. I may not understand what 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.640 he was saying, but if it weren't for those parable, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.920 but I would try to explain the law to a jury, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.000 I would use it examples. For instance, when I explained 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.320 circumstantial events, I would say, you go in your office 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.840 building building. It's bright and bright and shiny outside. But 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.680 by the end of the day, by the time you 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:15.080 come out of your building, you see women rushing by, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.280 hugging their raincoats to their chest. You see people running 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:22.880 by with umbrellas. You notice pools of water on the sidewalk. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.760 You don't have to see the storm to know that 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.120 it rained. That's a circumstantial evidence Okay, So when I 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.560 started writing the book, I thought, how can I explain 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.880 and help people based on what I've learned through all 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.120 the cases I prosecuted, all the cases I've covered. The 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.720 only way is to give an example. You really and 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.880 they were really good about. The sad part about it 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.159 is that this is just a few of many stories 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.880 you could have put in the book. That's the really 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.040 tragic part about this is that this was not like 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.480 a rare These are not rare stories. These are stories 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.839 that you chose that you could. You can you can consolidate, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.440 get to the beginning middle of in real fast. But 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.000 there's so many stories out there that could have filled 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.400 these pages. And there's a wonderful read. I'm talking to 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.000 Nancy Grace. He's on the show talking about her new book, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.120 Fantastic Book. It officially comes out September twenty second, but 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.880 you can buy the book early. That's what we're doing 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.919 this show. We promote early. Go out there and pre 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.080 purchased the book. So when could be number one for 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:21.919 I have a book number one on number one for 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.040 New York Times bestseller, Don't Be a Victim Fighting Back 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.360 against America's crime waves. Some book don't be a victim 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.280 fighting back against America's crime. Way. Here's something they want 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.240 to tell you something else, Mom, I wanna tell you 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.120 something else, something funny, and something calling. Yet, when you 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.880 were saying all this is based on so many true stories, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.080 and that there were so many more I could have 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.400 put in there, this is this is a funny anecdote. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.320 When I was writing the book, I remember all those 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.240 nights in the dark studio, I would say, so and 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.880 so's missing. We're on the lookout for let me just 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.719 say a blue hunt day. We're all lookout for of 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.880 white many fans. But I had so many examples writing 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.560 the book that they finally said, hey, you've got you've 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.800 got too many examples. We're gonna have to cull it back. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.280 All right, We're gonna have to do volume two. So 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.400 I actually have to cut out examples because there were 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:19.480 so many examples, and also a real reason I want 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.760 and hope people do pre order the book because not 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.440 only is it a testament for people like your twenty 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:32.239 three year old daughter about how to live pre but say, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.800 I don't like rules put on me, but I want 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.080 my daughter to be safe too. But I'm donating money 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.480 to help find missing children out of the proceeds of 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.840 this book, and I just want that out there. Well 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.080 it was now might help promote that because of the 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.520 fact that because like I when I said in your intro, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.960 you're a true crime fighter and this book is about 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.720 it's about this books Like to me, I'm just saying 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.000 that this just use the word bible of information that 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.800 you give this You go from cruise ships to r vs, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.239 two hotels, to two schools, to two jobs, to getting 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.600 on the elevator. It was just it was just a 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.560 voluble information going Wow, she's gonna cover this too, She's 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.480 gonna cover this too. But I want to just lighten 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.520 up the story a little before we get deeper by 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.600 you have twins and then reading this book John David. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.120 John David is gonna give you a heart attack. He's 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.800 gonna give your heart It started in the drug store 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.720 when he went into the toy section, and then he 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.960 was reading Nicholas of All the Online Predator, and then 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.760 on the cream ship when he left and he was 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.360 running out dragging little Lucy round that cruise ship trying 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.600 to find that boy. That boy is going to be 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:48.439 the death of you. Nancy, Greg I'm always dragging Lucy 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.560 to find John David. But yet I telled John David, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.240 I'm gonna say, you put that on my grade's Lucy. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.240 I've always say where's Lucy? But John David is really 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.520 the one at least on all these wild juice chases. 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.600 And yes, I use them, and honey, I watched them 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.080 like a hawk. I try not to let them know. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.280 I'm like, hey, mom, is that a n an Account'm 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.480 like no, yeah. I laughed so hard because because I 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.440 was like, that's me, that's me with my little daughter. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.880 My wife would say, you're just so parao. Because you know, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.440 the interesting thing about it, Nancy, is that, see, we 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.320 are in the media. You know, I'm in the media 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.440 just like you, but not as detail because you're in 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.320 the crime fighting. You get information I don't get. But 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.360 we're still aware and that awareness can I'm not gonna 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.640 use word parent and paranoid, but it does make us 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.360 aware that, okay, that could actually happen, and so we 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.280 see things differently. We approached bully situation a little bit early, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.120 a little bit more aggressive. If we see it happening, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.120 We're just not gonna let this play out. We're gonna 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.360 nip this in the bud right now, and you talk 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.760 about that in the book, and so it's really important 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.800 with it when you when I when I promote the 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.360 people to buy this book, because like I said, it's 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.000 a safety safety book, I'm gonna buy this book and 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.000 have my twenty three year old daughter read it because 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.640 it's not just about school age kids. It's about life, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.160 going to the malls, walking into parks, going to stand 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.800 in hotels, going on results cruise ships, all this information. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.680 How did you, first of all, this is a TV show, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.839 by the way, how did you managed to pull all 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:19.120 these information together without losing your mind? Nancy? Well, some 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.040 whould argue I have lost my mind, but I always 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.920 say I'm not paranoid that people are trying to hurt 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.920 my children. Absolutely they are. They are, and they're not 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.600 charging just my children. They're targeting any child. And here's 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.320 the kicker. By the time someone is caught and apprehended, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:42.600 the child lost station, they have molested literally hundreds of times. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.560 That's how prevalent it is. And these people, it's not 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.960 some prov at the edge of the park in a raincoat. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.840 It's people that you come in contact with at your church, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.280 at your Scout ship, but here and there, how I 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.600 need to When my twins got into Scouts, you know 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.360 I had to become a volunteer and go and camp 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.160 with them at Scout camp to make sure nothing happened. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.520 I'm happy to report that the Scouts or some of 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.440 the greatest people I've ever met. And maybe next year 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.200 I'll let them go without mommy camping in a tent 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.800 twenty feet away. Yes, yes, I know what you're thinking, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.400 but I did it. And not only that, I made 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:22.960 my husband, who's to work on all it like you 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.640 take off work for a week and also dough. So yes, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.560 it may sound paranoid to some people, but like you 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.520 and me, we read it every day and I react 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.120 and I don't want these things to happen to other people. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.560 How many times have I left a victims home because 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.600 you know, I don't just meet him at the courthouse. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.439 I want to go to their home. I want to 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.400 see who they live. I want to sit down and 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:47.840 talk to them. I want to look at the baby 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.680 photo albums. I want to know it all. And I 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.120 walk out of that home and I feel the weight 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.440 of the world on me, trying to figure out how 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.200 can I help this family. All I could do then 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.520 was to get a true vertict in court to give 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.720 them some sense of judice. But now with this book, 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.119 maybe I can't present them from ever being a victims. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.800 And that's really important. And you said something about camp 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.000 and uh when in the middle of a pandemic, as 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.560 this interview is happening, and you created a downloadable chapter 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.680 and you said it's free. Correct, they can download coronavirus crops. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:27.920 How could I thank you? First of all, thank you 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.559 because this is not something that kind of like a throwaway. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.920 This is very detailed that she's provided to us, and 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.720 that's a testament to your personality. That's a testament to 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.800 what you're trying to do for us. And before you 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.920 get in detail, I don't want to miss and say 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.680 because I read it, and I read that I way, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.080 because I do a lot of COVID Nateen interviews. I'm 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.160 kind of like a pandemic expert when it comes to 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.720 the COVID Nateen, the cares Act and the family response acting. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.240 So I know when I read stuff, I go, wow, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.400 she put some time into this and it's free. So 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.760 but but with with that being said, it there is 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.600 a need for it and tell us, tell us everybody 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.160 why there's an important need to they download this bonus 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.880 chapter that's free. Yeah, it is free, and you can 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.360 find it at crime online dot com. You can find 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.959 it on dr Oz's site. You can find that at 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.240 has Shad, the book publishing site for free. Because I 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.240 had just turned the book into the publisher and it 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:27.280 was a long time researching and writing that book. I 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.400 do my own research. I write it myself and I 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:35.480 don't have a ghostwriter. I write it um. Then after 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.800 I did that, I started audio recording and I did 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:42.120 my own audio recording of it too. Then COVID broke out. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.280 COVID broke out, The book had already gone to publishers, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.760 and I thought, I want this out now. I can't 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.760 wait for the book to come out in September. COVID's 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:58.199 happening now. So I got busy. I rewrote another. I've 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:03.800 got a thirty page chapter, very detailed about COVID crimes. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.199 So not only are people fighting for their lives, losing 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.920 their jobs, worrying about their families, Who's gonna catch COVID? 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.160 Your children? Then I go send them back in school. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.920 What's gonna happen. Not only have to worry about that, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.080 you have to worry about COVID crimes, people taking advantage 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.840 of other people during the COVID pandemic, which I think 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.040 is the worst of the worst. It really is. And 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.040 I because like I said, I'm out tell on the media, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.480 they asked me for my advice, and I talked about 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.240 the pandemic. And it's really sad when we have what's 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.120 happening right now with the checks to maybe ending this 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.200 week until the Congress is size to uh do stimulus 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.760 package too. But the details of this book, of this 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.440 downloadable chapter are incredible. You talk about door to door coronavirus, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:51.480 text fraud store's. You mentioned Jim Baker paraal pirates while 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.920 robo called for coronavirus. Because we don't know, we don't know, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.160 you know, there's no cure. I was talking to my wife, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.320 I was saying, I will tell us that there really 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.440 isn't a cute. And so when people go in to hospital, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.640 you know, they're really like just trying to sustain themselves 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.840 and survive the process because technically there isn't a vaccine 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.280 or a like some like Nike wail you can give 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.240 somebody if they got the cold of the flu. They 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.640 have nothing like that. And so this book is kind 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.280 of like to me, the night Quill for us to 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.840 avoid issues out there when it comes to coronavirus crime, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.480 not that door to door the fraudsters. There were some 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.000 things in here that that just really blew me away. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.840 The perel pirates. Can you go in detail about that? Oh, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.960 my stars, the purell pirates, what they did and they're 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.840 more like them. There was a big run on purel 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.680 face maths, of course, paper towels and troilet papers that 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.200 I can't address that they did not take toroilet paper 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.200 in law school. 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But when I saw that protecting 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.480 our elderly at the end, that kind of like made 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.640 me sit up in my chair, going wow, I never 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.119