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Speaker 2: we are going to cover the games this week because

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Speaker 2: there was a lot that went on. Thank god the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve refs weren't a hot topic of discussion again,

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Speaker 2: because at some point in time, it's got to stop somewhere.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely got to stop somewhere. And a lot of

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Speaker 2: So we'll start the show today with I guess sad

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Speaker 2: news man. So and it's funny because I've been through

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Speaker 2: this many, many times, Ralph. I went through this as

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Speaker 2: a player when my coach, Mike Bellotti was offered the

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Speaker 2: And then you've had you know, Chip was obviously offered

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Speaker 2: Mario Cristobal stay after Taggart left keep the job leaving

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Speaker 2: go to Miami. And now you have Dan Lanny who

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm not ef and leaving, I'm not having

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Speaker 2: schools that are learning how to deal with this and

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Speaker 2: all of the whole all Oregon's a stepping stone job

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Speaker 2: Doesn't don't feel so good.

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Speaker 3: For someone who's been through this several times. You don't

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Speaker 3: the You sound like you're about to dance on some graves.

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Speaker 2: The only people I, honestly, I mean, if I'm being

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Speaker 2: for is uh is Washington? Oh sorry, is Oregon State?

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Speaker 2: The only people that I have sympathy for. And do

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Speaker 2: you know why?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 2: Because there's nothing that they could have done to Like,

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Speaker 2: there's literally nothing that they could have done. And I

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Speaker 2: don't believe that Jonathan Smith even wants to leave. I

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Speaker 2: there are rumors that he is on the that it

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Speaker 2: Paul Canzano by Canzano yesterday by John Canzano. Here was

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Speaker 2: his quote when John Canzano when he was on a

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Speaker 2: you have not had contact with other schools? He said, quote,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I've gotten an

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Speaker 2: what's out there in people calling. That's how that works.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you from his side, he'd best be

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Any coach, they're aware

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Speaker 2: like like, oh, I haven't talked to anybody. Of course

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, I mean I think he went a little

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Speaker 3: He could have just said, I have an agent, like

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Speaker 3: that is my agent's job. I have an agent. Offers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he was tired of people lying. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that makes sense. But I think what it

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Speaker 3: Isn't this special hometown unicorn? He's just a businessman.

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Speaker 2: So no, but it's not that like. I don't look

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Speaker 2: I think that I believe that the circumstances surrounding the

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Speaker 2: finances make it pretty untenable because he's he's making what

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Speaker 2: That doesn't like that's that's cool and dandy, But he

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Speaker 2: has assistance making one hundred and eighty two fifty that

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Speaker 2: could be making five six, seven hundred thousand dollars if

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Speaker 3: His contract kicked off, his contract extension kicked off in

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter at all, and you'll get into why, but

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Speaker 3: his contract increases one hundred thousand dollars every year. It's

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Speaker 3: thirty point six million total, and it takes him through

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. Here's my question for you, why I

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much an agent factors into that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just haggling over market or fielding other offers

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Speaker 3: what we need to say stay. Yeah, but what percentage

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, So for players contracts in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: you can't be over three percent. Coaches may be in

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Speaker 3: Tell me, okay, uh, I mean dat ten percent? Ten

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Speaker 3: I guess that's a that's a I could see why

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, my agent better be working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brother, you better be working. You're getting some

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Speaker 2: meals up off of is you better be working.

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Speaker 3: I made my agent a multimillionaire by just not leaving

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Speaker 2: Dude, Dude, I mean even if his agent is making

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's yeah, bro, This is yeah bro, this is

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Speaker 2: that we're talking about. And it's not just Jonathan Smith,

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Speaker 2: is what I was saying is that it's the other

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Speaker 2: coaches around him that have stuck by him. So U, Ralph, Ralph.

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Speaker 2: If so like if CBS offered me a deal to

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Speaker 2: of this stuff, right, We've been working together for years

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Speaker 2: and then they make me an offer of ten million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year, right, and you're making a certain amount

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Speaker 2: money from this, but that's exponentially more than what we're

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Speaker 2: and mind you, it's not like an increase in like

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Speaker 2: all of that stuff. Right, So aren't you gonna come

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Speaker 2: to me or or Aaron come come to me your

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Speaker 2: I need you to explain to me why you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't you don't think that if Aaron knew that

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Speaker 2: I'm the assistant coach, I'm paid way less than you.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you taking this job or at least like like,

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Speaker 2: make it make sense to me why you're not even

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Speaker 3: Right? Because if if, if, if in your scenario, Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Know, or at least the people that he brings with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Brian Lnren has been his OC for

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Speaker 3: This is Trent Bray's second season, and I think he

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Speaker 2: He's paid I believe eight twenty five right now, eight

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Speaker 2: twenty five. You don't think that he's that he could

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Speaker 3: I think you could probably get two to three to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but I'm just talking about oh seeing like

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Speaker 2: you don't think that Brian Lingren is going to be

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Speaker 2: maybe one point five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or three to stay at Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Either way helps him. Yes, either way he

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Speaker 2: gets a significant raise.

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Speaker 3: I do just want to point out how funny it

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Speaker 3: is that real life crept into the podcast there for

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Speaker 3: up a fastball asking me a question about if I

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Speaker 3: the strangest attitude toward money.

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Speaker 2: Of anybody you know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you switched up and you're like, would your wife

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Speaker 3: come ask on your behalf?

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly?

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Speaker 3: Why why you're not entertaining? I just love that, like

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Speaker 3: But right in the middle you're You're realize you're talking

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Speaker 2: That's my yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: If you're not under contract here. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: No stream them on YouTube, bro or YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Or do you say, like, I'm really good at what

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Speaker 2: Yep, So do you believe that he will be? And

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Speaker 3: This feels contingent on, doesn't it feel a little bit

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Speaker 3: You can't be in the hunt for the national championship

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Speaker 3: He like he was upset that he was getting questions

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, that I have seen it firsthand.

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Speaker 3: It would be all of them, that would be It

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Speaker 2: There is not one single solitary thread about it, not one,

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Speaker 3: They don't want to believe it's happening to them, not

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Speaker 2: YEP, one hundred percent all right now. On to Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly and UCLA beat up USC after rumors that

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Speaker 3: I think he could do some good things at Michigan State,

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Speaker 3: but I think Michigan State wants to hire somebody in

436
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: the interim that like is the most uninteresting person in

437
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, true, if that makes sense. Hey, someoneever Matt

439
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: Ishbia suggests that's who they would be hiring, right.

440
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Exactly, because he was he was down to fund the

441
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: entire mel Tucker contract. But I don't know, man, I

442
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: think that you know, a lot of people point to

443
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: Florida jobs and less I feel less and less like

444
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders is going to go to the Southeast when

445
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: the time comes. Yes, I think Delon's future is probably

446
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: in the state of Texas. Yes, because that's where he

447
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: spent the most of his time, right, yep.

448
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, He's definitely gonna want to be somewhere a team.

449
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: He's a bit warmer.

450
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think that his future is probably

451
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: you know, if Houston ever moves on from from Dana Holgerson,

452
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: if you know, TCU gets sick of Sunny Dike's the

453
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: way that cal did you know, because their raid only

454
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: gets you so far, or you know, if you know,

455
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: I think SMU's staff is is you know, going to

456
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: get picked off by somebody sometime soon. You know, I

457
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: think it would probably be an opening that would take

458
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: place in the future in the state of Texas. I

459
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: don't I don't see him leaving Colorado for at least

460
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: two years beyond this.

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he's there for at least a

462
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: little while. And you you think he's gonna leave Travis

463
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: Hunter too, No, right, no, exactly, all right, and then

464
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: the last coach is Jadfish. Jadfish over Arizona, who they

465
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: have two hundred they have They miscalculated apparently their budget

466
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: by two hundred and forty million dollars, and that means

467
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: that the being counters are going to be out about recruiting,

468
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: They're going to be out about every dollar that is spent.

469
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: They're talking about potentially cutting sports because they have so

470
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: many sports had it into the Big twelve, which I

471
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: hate the idea of that over money, but I do

472
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: wonder now apparently according to Arizona people, they'll tell you

473
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Speaker 2: that there's a different bucket of money for the head coaches,

474
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: but that then the athletic department. And I wonder if

475
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Arizona has enough donors to be like, all right, bro,

476
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna step Jed Fish up from two point eight

477
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: to five and a half six and a half million

478
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: dollars if they have enough for that.

479
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't make a lot.

480
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: No, he's at two point eight.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna have to at least are

482
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Speaker 3: they they just they did recently extend him. I don't know, man,

483
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: where are they gonna get the money from. How are

484
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Speaker 3: they gonna justify making cuts? And I know that football

485
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: funds itself. I know this. You know this, yep. But

486
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: how are they going to justify it to the university

487
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: community while cutting things? It's hard enough to sneak that

488
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: through without people getting upset when you're when when you

489
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: know you can say, hey, this literally completely pays for itself,

490
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: you know, people will still say this is a public university.

491
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: There's there's there's still issues. What are you going to

492
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: do when when they go to the rowing team, they

493
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: go to the golf team and you know, and they're

494
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: they're taking stuff away? Yep.

495
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Speaker 2: You ain't never lied about that, buddy, never lied about that.

496
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: To be fair. Also, to be very clear here, I

497
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: don't think that Tucson has a rowing team. I just

498
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: use that as an example.

499
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Hey, it might be doing crew and the crue in

500
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Speaker 2: a in a river out there or something in the canal. Yeah,

501
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: all right, on to the next thing now that we've

502
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: covered those coaches. So the PAC twelve Championship scenarios, there

503
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: are two scenarios. One Oregon plays well, Washington plays Oregon.

504
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: Number two Washington plays Arizona. So it would need Arizona

505
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: to win the Territorial Cup versus Arizona State, and for

506
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Oregon State to beat Oregon. How likely do you think

507
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: that either one of those two things is to happen

508
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: or both of them.

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Speaker 3: I don't I mentally, since about week six, I've been

510
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: prepared for Oregon in Washington and nothing else. My brain

511
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: is not even allowing me to entertain the possibility of

512
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: anything else happening. I think, I mean, I know we

513
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: do our picks later, but I think Oregon is going

514
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: to run through Oregon State.

515
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: What I do with this Johnson Smith stuff coming up?

516
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I want to believe, even though Washington

517
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: has played with fire quite a bit, that the Apple

518
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: Cups shouldn't even be in question.

519
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it shouldn't be. It should not be. However, Washington's

520
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: played way too many close games for me to just

521
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: feel just unequivocally, you know what, I mean like to

522
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: feel like I am, like I don't have any fear

523
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: about this.

524
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they're like one hundred and nineteenth and

525
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: passing yards against and like eighty third and overall defense

526
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: the defensive numbers. Like there's two stories being told here.

527
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: One Washington has played three of the best offenses in

528
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: the country, three of the top eighteen offenses in the country,

529
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: so many people can say that, right. And the other

530
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: part of it is they also just have not done

531
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: a good job. Some people say that their offensive style

532
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: lends the defense to just being on the field more.

533
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: I didn't believe it when USC fans were saying it,

534
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily believe it here. Only recently have

535
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: University of Washington's pass rushers been getting home. Only recently

536
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: they do look better, and you know, their defensive backs

537
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: had gotten toasted a little bit. And so I don't know,

538
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: I know what Washington State is capable of. Here's where

539
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: Washington State can't compete. They don't have the athletes. If

540
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: Washington went if Washington went into this game and they

541
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: were just like it's a Dylan Johnson game and they

542
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: just decided to be more physical. They're gonna run away

543
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: with it. But if they go in there try to

544
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: be themselves, play tight, you know. I do think they

545
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: should change things up and just put this game away.

546
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know if because Michael Pennix is in

547
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: the middle of a Heisman race, there's pressure on them

548
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: to go in and look good. Yep, because now we

549
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: got eye test involved. They just barely, barely, barely jumped

550
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: Florida State. Florida State shifted on Florida. It's gonna matter

551
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: what Washington does against Washington State.

552
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Washington should be in front of Florida State and Michigan

553
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: and maybe Ohio State if you put their resume. And

554
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: we talk about this on YouTube, so guys go to

555
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: the YouTube channel, go check it out. If Ohio State, Michigan,

556
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: Notre Dame USC, anybody had this resume that Washington has,

557
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: because nobody has a resume this good. And they say, oh,

558
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: they haven't look good. Hell, Michigan ain't look good. The

559
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks and and before the last and

560
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: before the Pendstate game, they had not even played a

561
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: team that was ranked, not even not even in the

562
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Ape pole at any point in time like that's not

563
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: ever ranked. They talk about Oregon or everybody Oregon beat

564
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: then then gets knocked out, like like they beat them

565
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: up and then all of a sudden they fall apart,

566
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna sit up here and act. It's frustrating, bro,

567
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: it's frustrating. And you know how bad it has to

568
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: be for me to be making YouTube videos and videos

569
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: stamping for Washington. You know how bad it has to be.

570
00:36:53,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: This is true, man, I just think it. If one

571
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: team is at risk this weekend, to me, it's Washington

572
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: just because they be pressing a little bit and they

573
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: played so many close games. But again, I can't I

574
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: can't entertain anything other than an Oregon Washington rematch. I

575
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: what do you think about the likelihood of any other scenario.

576
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: I think that you have to handle your business that's

577
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: standing right and right in front of you before you

578
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: get to before you get to worry about other people's stuff,

579
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: because that's how you lose football games. And I do

580
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: and I do not want Oregon looking past them. Talk

581
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: to the coaches. Coaches said they had a good week

582
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: of practice and that the guys are focused, and honestly, Ralph,

583
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: that is all I care about at this point in time.

584
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: That is literally, all I care about is that those

585
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: dudes are focused on every single level. That is all

586
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: I care about. So yes, so, yes, I So that's

587
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: a long way or in a roundabout way to say

588
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: that that, yes, I do believe that there is a

589
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: possibility that there is a world that Oregon State wins

590
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: this football game, and I don't want to be a

591
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: part of that world.

592
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: Did you just threaten self harm?

593
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: No? No, actually I did not. I'm just I'm just.

594
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: Saying, okay, I'm just making sure you were not on

595
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: here saying I don't want to be here anymore.

596
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not what I was saying anymore at all.

597
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: Checking on your people holiday season?

598
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: All right, the college football playoff rankings came in. You

599
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: have where we just talked about. Washington moved up to four,

600
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: Oregon still at six. The next team is who Oregon

601
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: stayed at sixteen, They fell down five spots, and Arizona

602
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: is sitting at what seventeen?

603
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: I believe? So yeah, yeah.

604
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: So and the part that made no sense to me

605
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: because you had the people on television. Oh man, see,

606
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: they're not giving the SEC the love that they normally

607
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: get because they normally give Bama the benefit of the doubt,

608
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: and I'm looking I'm looking at this Ralphin, I'm like,

609
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Fam, what are you talking about?

610
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: The SEC has the best, the highest ranked two loss

611
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: team in Missouri who they have put in front of

612
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: ten and one Louisville. Granted Louisville lost a pit but

613
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: if that were an SEC team, there's no way they

614
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: would be ranked in front of that. Missouri would be

615
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: ranked in front of them. Not a chance. They have

616
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: the highest ranked three loss team in LSU got their

617
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: quarterback is playing real well, defense is non existent. So

618
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: they're higher than Arizona and Oregon State. So yeah, Arizona's

619
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: fifth team, Oregon State of sixteen and instead of having

620
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: UCLA ranked which they should be ranked, the highest four

621
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: loss team is Tennessee at seven and four? Who got there?

622
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: Who got everything? Pushed in against Missouri thirty six to

623
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: seven and then against Georgia thirty eight to ten. And

624
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: we're sitting here like, yeah, hey, hey, that's still the

625
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 2: top ten team. That's I mean, the top twenty five team.

626
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, no way know how make it stop?

627
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I highest ranked, undefeated, highest ranked two lost, high

628
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: strength three loss, highest strength four loss all to SEC.

629
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Speaker 3: I mean, Clemson has a win over Notre Dame, do

630
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: they not Yep? And they can't even get above Tennessee.

631
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Like, I don't the the whole reputational factor

632
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: of the SEC keeps working overtime and manifesting itself in

633
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: all these ways beyond just having the top teams in

634
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: the country and the potential to have two teams in

635
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: the playoff. Like, think about this. The overall strength of

636
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: schedule for the SEC is the lowest that it's been

637
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: since two thousand and five. It's not even close to

638
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: anywhere that it's been in the last ten years. Auburn

639
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: just lost to New Mexico State the opening. They opened

640
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: up one and four again in out of conference contests,

641
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: and I think by the end of the second week

642
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: they were five and seven. Like, this is not a

643
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: strong SEC slate. You've pointed out the fact that you

644
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: know that LSU has scored a lot of points and

645
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: given up a lot of points, And how does that

646
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: make them different than USC. I guess they do have

647
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: the win, the win over Missouri, but at the same time,

648
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: like every other good team that they've played against has

649
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: beaten them.

650
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: Yep. So you know, there there's no difference between LSU

651
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: and USC except for USC got beat down enough that

652
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: they quit. That's the only difference. So I don't think

653
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: that the Arizona and Oregon State are getting the credit

654
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: that they deserve. Oregon State fell fell down five spots,

655
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: like make it in a twenty two to twenty loss

656
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: to the number four team in the country. But Tennessee

657
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: only lost, only dropped down three spots after getting after

658
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: losing by like by sixty points in two weeks. Come on, man, oh,

659
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: but that was the number one and the number whatever

660
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: team in the I don't understand how that how that's

661
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: any different than number four fam But anyways, though, the

662
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff going College Football Playoff, and we talked

663
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: about a scenario where what is the committee going to

664
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: do if you have thirteen and OH Washington thirteen and

665
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: OH Ohio State thirteen and oh Florida State and then

666
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Alabama beats oh in twelve and one Texas who beat

667
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: Alabama and then twelve and one Alabama who beat Georgia

668
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: in the SEC Championship. Who are you putting in there?

669
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: What?

670
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, who's the committee putting there? Because they're gonna be like,

671
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: we can't leave Georgia out. They ran the table in

672
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: the regular season.

673
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: I have already had people spend the last day and

674
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: a half trying to explain to me why it would

675
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: be okay for them to take Alabama and not Texas,

676
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: and that you'd have more of a likelihood of Georgia

677
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: being a second SEC team in if they run at

678
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: number one the whole time, lose drop back to four.

679
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: You could have Alabama three, Georgia four, Texas five and out,

680
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: and Florida State thirteen and oh and out. Like I've

681
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: had people tell me that that's more than plausible.

682
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: Man, throw all of this shit in the trash. If

683
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: that happens, bro, Bro, I promise you, I promise you

684
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: that if that happens, they will burn the They will

685
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: burn the college football playoff system down. They will burn

686
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: it down. Them folks from Texas not standing for that. Florida,

687
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: Florida State's trying to burn down the SEC. You don't

688
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: think they'll add another victim to the list. Well man, Anyways, though,

689
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: on to the next you have Oregon State and Washington State.

690
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: I feel bad for these two two teams, Ralph, They

691
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: I have no home this is gross. And I'm not

692
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 2: a person that feel sorry for a lot of people

693
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: because a lot of times your your choices put you

694
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: in the position that you're in. Like I can have

695
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: empathy for people without having sympathy. But this is a

696
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 2: situation that it's brutal.

697
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

698
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: They're likely headed to play a The Apple Cup is

699
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: going to continue, Okay. They are trying to keep Oregon

700
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: Oregon State by with the Mountain West scheduling, by then

701
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: backing Oregon out of the Boise State game and then

702
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 2: putting Oregon State game in in one of the non

703
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: conference games early in the season.

704
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: Pois State's gonna let that happen.

705
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: Yes, that that that's the potential after they get the

706
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: scheduling thing done. But then, but then, I wonder, does

707
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: that turn into a by game for Oregon.

708
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: Then Oregon paying Oregon State. Yes, you can't do that.

709
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: It's already a by game. It's already a by game.

710
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: Judge made sure of it. Oregon's gonna leave money on

711
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: the table that they would have had otherwise, and it's

712
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: gonna go right to Oregon State.

713
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I ain't pay y'all. Damn, I ain't paying

714
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: them country boys. Nothing that's what I'm not doing, im.

715
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: How do you think that? How do you think they're

716
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: gonna put together a full schedule?

717
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: Are they if they don't get the Mountain West it's

718
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: it's it's yeah, Yeah, they're gonna, Yes, they're they're they're

719
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to go tricking for dollars right now.

720
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: Do you think that includes a lot of FCS scheduling

721
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: or how do you think they they're gonna have to

722
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: use some of that two hundred million each to buy

723
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: people out of their game contracts.

724
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna be that they're gonna get

725
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: added to the Mountain West scale to their conference schedule,

726
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: and that that'll make up for those games.

727
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: But what will it count as a conference game or not? Yeah?

728
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. That then they're they're

729
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: still only in a two team conference despite the scheduling agreement.

730
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn.

731
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they care as long as they get

732
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: football games.

733
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: What if they have like five slots they can't fill,

734
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: so they're just like, all right, we're running this five

735
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: straight weeks in a row of Washington Stayers of Groundhog's

736
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: Day best of five.

737
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: BRU. That would be atrocious and then Washington State with

738
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: Dake dickerd They sound so pitiful. We played the clip

739
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: last week from or two weeks ago from it, and

740
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: they just sound so pittf for Ralph, they're like woe

741
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: is us?

742
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: And you know.

743
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: That based upon them having no TV, like they literally

744
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: have no TV contract. So that means that their games

745
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: are slated to play nowhere. You see what I'm saying

746
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: right that they will have it to if a tree

747
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: falls in the forest, like we're gonna be seeing grainy

748
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: video that's no different than like when like Utah Tech plays.

749
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: You know, well, if that's the case, I'm just telling

750
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: people I won.

751
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: So what's gonna happen to the roster? Because that's the

752
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: next thing is that that we're in recruiting season.

753
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: We are a week in.

754
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: How many days are we away? We are seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

755
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: like twelve days away from the transfer portal opening.

756
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: That is going to be one of the wildest days

757
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: in college football history.

758
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, bruh, yep, it is going to go crazy. Mike

759
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Elko came out and like, yo, yo, you better have

760
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: a strategy to keep your kids just telling you otherwise

761
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: they gon't they belong to the streets. Oh kind of

762
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: like your coaches. Oh okay, okay, So I feel no sympathy.

763
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: I feel sympathy for the fans because I know it's

764
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: frustrated with players come and leave and all that stuff.

765
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: I feel no sympathy for these coaches, though they pick

766
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: up and leave whenever they want to.

767
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: They started this, yes, they started it, but they also

768
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: so many of them continue to agree with the NCAA

769
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: stance on amateurism while not having any problem whatsoever with

770
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 3: their slice of the pie growing exponentially year over.

771
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: Year yep, and taking a billion dollars on the way out.

772
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety I want to say seven there was

773
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: one coach making seven figures. What spreer, Steve Sprier, that's it.

774
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: He was the first seven figure coach, and it happened

775
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: in the late nineties. The trajectory that we were on

776
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety seven to twenty seventeen, if it continues

777
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: to twenty thirty seven, then the highest paid coaches are

778
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: going to be making fifty million a year. That's the

779
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: trajector we were on in forty years, going from one

780
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 3: seven figure coach to the highest paid coaches making fifty million.

781
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: Jeez, bro, that is insane. Insane coaches make brothers, No

782
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: way they can be King Kentuck, the.

783
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: Head coach of Kentucky already makes over eight Kentucky football. Like,

784
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: what that's gonna be. That's gonna be the salary of

785
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: your of your like Boise states yeap in fifteen sixteen

786
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: years wants back and I'm gonna shut this show down

787
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: right now, go to a coaching clinic.

788
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, don't don't think I haven't thought about it,

789
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: because I've had opportunities, but I don't want to, you know,

790
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: have my family all jacked up and and everything. But

791
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: but uh, when the but when the next set of

792
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: kids get out of high school in five years and

793
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: it's just me, niece and Roman, Yeah, h we might

794
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: be on that train, Buddy, might be on that train.

795
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: No, we might want to slow down on some of

796
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: the stuff we're saying out loud about some of these

797
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: coaches right now.

798
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: Then hey, listen, listen, truth truth sometimes, man, And we

799
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: don't attack the people. Lincoln Riley's probably gonna feel attacked.

800
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 3: What's on the YouTube?

801
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna let us in a building?

802
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: Nope, I don't think so. He doesn't even let student

803
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 3: reporters in the building when they write puff pieces about

804
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: his own players.

805
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not unfair though. It is anything that

806
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: we've said about people, where I've said about anybody hyperbolic

807
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: or or untrue or unfair.

808
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: No. No, we're also not the type of people just

809
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: to be out here calling people soft, even though the

810
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: closest that we're probably gonna get to ever calling anybody

811
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: soft will be today.

812
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: But I think there's a line that said he's generationally soft,

813
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: with uh.

814
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: Generationally soft. He is generationally soft, man.

815
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: So I was to Caleb Williams. Yeah, generating quarter.

816
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: He's very good at what he does. He deserves his money,

817
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: he deserves his praise. But man, he is he is

818
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: absurdly like I can't even say, thin skinned, like afraid

819
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: of his own thinness of skin. Does that make sense?

820
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I understood.

821
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't even want to be in a situation to

822
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: have thin skin. Yep, what we call afraid of your

823
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: own shadow.

824
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: All right, So quickly though, before we get into the games,

825
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: USC went seven and five, bro seven and five. Actually,

826
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: let's just start with the games there. USC played UCLA

827
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: lost thirty eight to ten, Ralph thirty let's give them damn.

828
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: That would have been a Listen. That game could have

829
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: been thirty eight to twenty if UCLA's offense had gotten

830
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: anything going after they went up fourteen zero, because they

831
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: had two or three possessions after that where they were

832
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: both times I think, and you see and you cla

833
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: usc territory did not score. So yeah, this was atrocious.

834
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams three hundred and eighty four yards passing, including

835
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: one amazing throw which he flashes every single game, touchdown,

836
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: a nasty pick, and he lost a oh he did

837
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: not lose a fumble, but uh yeah, and he did

838
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: not fumble. But yeah, thirty eight to twenty, Ralph, this

839
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: team quit. They came with so yes, when they were

840
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: down fourteen to oh, they quit. It was that the

841
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: only reason why they got back into the game at

842
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: at fourteen ten at halftime was because UCLA was in

843
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: ept on offense and kept dropping balls and having penalties

844
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: and just couldn't run up the score. That was the

845
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: only reason.

846
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: At that point. There's nothing like us. He's not playing

847
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: for anything. I don't understand why they didn't just run

848
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: a final play. I also definitely don't understand why they

849
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: down twenty eight to ten, Why they kicked a field

850
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: goal thinking they were going to score fifteen when they

851
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: hadn't done anything since the drive that led into the

852
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: second quarter. Can we at least can we at least

853
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: give Caleb Williams some praise? That seventy four yard touchdown

854
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: past to Brennan Rice was one of the sickest throws

855
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: catches I've seen all year, regardless of.

856
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: Bro That was incredible. He was on the other hash

857
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: almost threw the ball off of one leg for a

858
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: dime outside the numbers on the other one, hit him

859
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 2: right right and stride Yea and then Brennan Rice.

860
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: It was one of those moments where you realized just

861
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: how big Brandon Rice is. That like the defender tried

862
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: to tackle him and just slid off. Everything about it.

863
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: He tried to tackle him prior to the ball getting there, And.

864
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: You just have to ask yourself, like, man, if they

865
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: could do this, why are they getting destroyed?

866
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: Like why has the offense he also had to run

867
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: around for six seconds too, that's allow that to happen.

868
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is he has been sacked in

869
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 3: the last two years, I think sixty three times. Who

870
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Damn. I was under the impression this dude

871
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: never got touched and it was mostly because of him,

872
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: the way that he moves around in the pocket. He's

873
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: sixty three times in the last two seasons, yep.

874
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: And now some of that is his fault for holding

875
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: onto the ball a little bit. But this offensive line

876
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: has been leaky. Dude, I don't even.

877
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: Like I.

878
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: So you have Caleb Williams. How is what is the

879
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: trajectory of usc right right now? Because Miller Moss, no

880
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: matter how good he is for next year, or Malachi Nelson,

881
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: no matter how good he is next year, or whoever

882
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: you get out of the portal, however he good, good

883
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: he is next year, won't be as good as Caleb Williams.

884
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: No, they will not. So at that quarterback. I don't

885
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: know if that quarterback exists in college football right now.

886
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: I with with both skill sets, kid out of Liberty

887
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: is pretty damn good.

888
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: But like, yes, I wouldn't mind him in Eugene.

889
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: Start the bidding war now. But like I, I, I

890
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: don't know. But there's there is no Caleb. There's no Caleb.

891
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: There's nobody that throws like him. There's nobody that runs

892
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: like him, and he does both. So you're you are

893
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: right about that. They they get these good offensive linemen,

894
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: they get the higher rated offensive linemen on the on

895
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: the West Coast and split them with Oregon or whatever.

896
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: But they get these highly rated offensive line system.

897
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: They haven't been getting the highest rated recruits on the

898
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: West coast either.

899
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: They got a couple of four stars in there, but

900
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: then they run put them in this air raid system

901
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: that doesn't develop their their talent level. We've heard NFL scouts,

902
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: NFL coaches talk about the fact that the teams that

903
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: are out here running an air raid like these old

904
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: linemen have to be re taught yep, when they when

905
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: they get to the NFL level, and so you know,

906
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: you you you were. At some point the receivers are

907
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: going to realize that we can't get seven four and

908
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: five stars on the field at the same time. So,

909
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 3: like if you're a guy like Dorian Singer and you

910
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: come over from Arizona, your production is going to get, uh,

911
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: it's going to shrink exponentially. Right, You're going to see

912
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: that they're not really getting the ball to tight ends.

913
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: They don't really hand the ball off in the way

914
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: that they should have getting Marshaun Lloyd over from South Carolina.

915
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 3: There's a lot of truths that are getting told right

916
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: now in this process that maybe La, maybe the quick

917
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: money is not the best thing for you.

918
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: Well if that's the other thing is that according to

919
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: their boards and everything, their nil money is not where

920
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: other people think it is. And then you so so like,

921
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: here is the issue with their recruiting. First of all,

922
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: they got a six seven, two forty five tight End

923
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: out of Georgia, who's a high four star kid. He

924
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: is committed. What what the hell are you going to

925
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: do with a big tight end? First of all in

926
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: this air raid system. First thing, I don't even understand

927
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: why kids at tight end even want to come to

928
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: USC But I'm well into any air raid really, you've

929
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: forget you.

930
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: Might get some numbers, but you're also going to go

931
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: into the NFL not being ready to do.

932
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: To play tight end. Yep.

933
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

934
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: And you have Cameron Fountain who has been rumored to

935
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: so they have one edge player committed. He is projected

936
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: to flip. Cameron Fountain, He's a number eighty five in

937
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: the country according to two four seven. Then they have

938
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: a linebacker committed out of Connecticut, and they have one

939
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: other d lineman committed who's six three three zero five

940
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: out of Pennsylvania. And that is the extent of their

941
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: big person recruiting and one edge player, one defensive like

942
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: tackle kid and the edge players rumored to flip, and

943
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: a linebacker. That is all they have committed on the

944
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: defensive side.

945
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: Ralph, that's it because they think that they're going to

946
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: be able to depend on what they've done the last

947
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: couple of years, going out and getting Solomon at of Wyoming,

948
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 3: getting keyon Bars at Arizona. They like, they think they're

949
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: just gonna be able to do that every time, and

950
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: maybe they're right. Maybe they're right. I don't know.

951
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: Well, last year in their in their class, they have

952
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: one edge player, one linebacker, one defensive lineman, two defensive linemen,

953
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: two edge players in the entire class.

954
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: That's it.

955
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: That's it.

956
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that. So the way that they recruit

957
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 3: defensively might change based on the coordinator that they bring in.

958
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: They trying to have a national approach like their Stanford

959
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: or Notre Dame or something that is not something that

960
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: the California high school coaches have enjoyed all that much.

961
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: I've noticed on the message boards and on on in

962
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: Twitter spaces and things like that. To a certain extent,

963
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 3: USC is allowed a level of arrogance that other teams

964
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 3: are not when things are working. Because when when things

965
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: are working, like if if if USC was eleven and

966
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 3: one right now and then it lose for their last

967
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 3: five games of the season, if they're eleven and one,

968
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: they can say boohoo to a high school coach. That

969
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 3: high school coach is best player still going to commit

970
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: to USC. The best, the three best Polynesian kids in

971
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: America are still going to commit to USC. The best

972
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: transfer prospects are still going to consider. You know, USC

973
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: if they're winning. If they're winning, then they have the

974
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: ability to write everybody off and say that you have

975
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: to exist on my level. They have that ability. Seven

976
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: and five they don't, especially after a bunch of years

977
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: of Clay Helton kind of trying to bend over backwards

978
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: to satisfy a lot of those criticisms. You know, they

979
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: wanted Lincoln Riley to come in, stop listening to a

980
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: bunch of outside voices and just bring back the swagger.

981
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: But when the outside voices were all unified in telling

982
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: you that your defensive coordinator is going to waste a

983
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: generational quarterbacks senior or final season in college football, and

984
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: you end up letting him go and admitting that he's right,

985
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: in the same way that Mike Tomlin had to had

986
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: to listen to people ask him if he was going

987
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: to fire Matt Canada for ten weeks in a row,

988
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: and then it stings. It stings to go out and

989
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: do the thing that the people that you are telling

990
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: every single week they don't know what they're talking about.

991
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: They when when you finally are the last one to

992
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: the party on those issues, it's very very humbling.

993
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

994
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: Uh. So you know it'll be interesting to see if

995
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley's approach changes. But they got to build. They

996
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: gotta build. They can't just collect. Like the same message

997
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: goes out to Dion Sanders, you have to be able

998
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 3: to build, like with somebody, please go talk to Jetfish,

999
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: for the love of God, go talk to the man.

1000
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: You have to build you have, especially when you're headed

1001
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: into the Big ten. But listen, they will, they will

1002
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: get the message at some point point in time. Are

1003
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: you surprised about Well, actually, let's go to U c

1004
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: l A. How is your what what are your thoughts

1005
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: about them and their future after you saw this game,

1006
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: knowing that their coaches back, but they're the guy that's

1007
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: supposed to be the future at quarterback may be on

1008
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: the way out transferring.

1009
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: I think they'll survive that one. That one won't be.

1010
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: I think the the biggest effect of losing Dante more

1011
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: off your roster, which is the worst kept secret in

1012
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: the world, that he's gone, the is gonna be will

1013
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: another five star considered coming in? And that that remains

1014
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: to be seen? Right? That was kind of dumb luck

1015
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: for U c l A anyway, because Kenny Dillingham had

1016
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: left to take the Arizona State job, which is what

1017
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 3: caused Dante Moore to leave his commitment to the Ducks

1018
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: and go to UCLA. Ethan Garber's is a transfer quarterback.

1019
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: They took in Colin Schlee as a transfer quarterback. It

1020
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to me like Chip Kelly is interested in

1021
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: going the freshman route unless it's somebody who is an

1022
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: absolute potential game changer like Dante Morre. And I don't

1023
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: know if anybody likes them like that, So, you know,

1024
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that Dante mor Thing is gonna hurt

1025
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: that bad because it's not like he was the one

1026
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: that propelled them to the level of success that they

1027
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: had this year. And I also don't think the losses

1028
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: that they took were necessarily his fault. What is going

1029
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: to be what is going to be interesting is if

1030
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: it becomes abundantly clear going into next year. Let's say

1031
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: Ethan Garber stays and he leads them into Big ten competition.

1032
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: What's going to be abundantly clear is if they open

1033
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: up like one in four or something and Martin Jarman

1034
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: ruined his opportunity and any goodwill that was given to

1035
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: him based on Brune Report online floating that he was

1036
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: going to fire Chip Kelly to get this process done immediately. Yeah,

1037
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 3: maybe this isn't a coaching Maybe it is all Wasserman

1038
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: saying like, you know, I'm not gonna support you making

1039
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 3: that change. Maybe it's being driven at the highest level

1040
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: by one of the top boosters. But UCLA hasn't really

1041
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: done anything to justify Chip Kelly getting reinvested in. Yeah,

1042
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: so it feels like we're just crossing our fingers and

1043
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: hoping he'll be good in the Big Ten.

1044
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but they have gotten the defense fixed.

1045
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: So that is that is half the battle, buddy, that

1046
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: is absolutely half the battle. Now on to the next

1047
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: game that we had this weekend, Washington Oregon State twenty

1048
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: two to twenty. The Beavers had every opportunity to win

1049
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: this game, Ralph, every opportunity to win this game. The

1050
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: weather was a great factor, so they couldn't throw it

1051
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: at the level that they wanted to that Washington wanted

1052
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: to throw it. They had every opportunity. Martinez kept getting

1053
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: tripped up at the last tackler. You had a couple

1054
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: of misthrows, a couple of miss catches, oh man, a

1055
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: dropped interception. They had opportunities and they blew it.

1056
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: Do you think Washington fans just like slept puckered up?

1057
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: They better had Like I can you imagine being a

1058
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 3: Washington fan.

1059
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to live under that kind of stress, living.

1060
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 3: Through that second half, living through that second half, and

1061
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: then just having to go to bed. You can't go.

1062
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: Straight to sleep unless you drink yourself to sleep during

1063
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: during that would yourself where you smoked yourself to sleep.

1064
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: That's the only way.

1065
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: They're living that Kansas City Chiefs life just let's see,

1066
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: let's see what happens if we don't score in the

1067
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 3: second half. I liked some of your takeaways from this game.

1068
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 3: I think this receiving core is We're gonna be thinking

1069
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: about it for a long time, Like how did they

1070
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: get all that talent in the building at the same

1071
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: time with that quarterback? Like this, this is a legendary,

1072
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: legendary offense. And then yeah, like I said, their pass

1073
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: rush is starting to figure things out the last couple

1074
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 3: of weeks.

1075
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still don't get a ton of like they

1076
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: feel like a timely defense, not a good defense.

1077
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll agree with that. They're not a good defense.

1078
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean, by any measurement, by any metric, they're not

1079
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 3: a good defense. The only way that you can say

1080
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: that they have a good defense is if you have

1081
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: that Mike D'Antoni mentality of the team that's defense exactly. Like,

1082
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 3: that's the only way that you can that you can

1083
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,919
Speaker 3: say that this Washington defense is good. They're barely average.

1084
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: Where where I consistently worry about them is, you know,

1085
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: if they're not able to get quarterback pressures. You're talking

1086
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: about going up against Oregon again, a team that has

1087
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 3: allowed less pressures than anyone yep so, and it just

1088
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: makes me think because the team or the other team

1089
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 3: that's so incredible at just getting the ball out, Michael

1090
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: Pennix never takes sex. Ever. I imagine that practices are

1091
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: pretty difficult on that defense because they you know, they

1092
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 3: they aren't getting home in pass rush anyway, and Washington

1093
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 3: plays in a way that they don't let you even

1094
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: get to the quarterbacks. It's not like you're even experiencing

1095
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: success Tuesday through Tuesday through uh Friday in practice. I think,

1096
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that if you're Oregon State fan,

1097
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: you got to be kind of frustrated because the opportunities

1098
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: were there, But you do have to admit that you are.

1099
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: You are a little bit behind. Your deficiencies have been

1100
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 3: pretty clear all year. I do. I would like to

1101
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 3: hear from some more Oregon State fans about how they

1102
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: feel going in next year with DJU. Are you comfortable

1103
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: to just have this DJU Aiden Chiles combo platter, No, no, no.

1104
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 2: No, because that won't work for next year. I'm telling

1105
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: you on on either side, because Aiden's going to demand

1106
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 2: more reps and DJ is not gonna want to give

1107
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: up reps. So so some something got to give in

1108
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: that situation.

1109
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 3: So what's the answer is that aidenh I was finding

1110
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: a new home.

1111
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 2: Wherever. Yeah, him finding a new home wherever Josh Jonathan

1112
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: Smith is next year.

1113
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 3: That'd be imagine Jonathan Smith walking into a room with

1114
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 3: with Aiden Child's and DJ and be like, hey, you know,

1115
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: I couldn't pass up this opportunity. DJ has been a

1116
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: pleasure to be your coach. Eight and your bags are

1117
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 3: in the car.

1118
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 2: A game that we were disappointed was on Pack twelve network,

1119
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: actually was perfect that it was on Pack twelve network.

1120
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: Arizona Well, Utah at Arizona forty two to eighteen Ralph.

1121
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: It was twenty eight to seven at halftime, and at

1122
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: that point in time, I don't even think Utah had

1123
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 2: turned the ball over yet. They just beat them up

1124
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: and down the field. Now, are you ready to admit

1125
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,919
Speaker 2: what what I told you about? Noah Noah Flafida.

1126
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: You asked me that every week and I say yes

1127
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 3: every week, and I'm starting to feel like your short

1128
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: memory is intentional. I'm living Groundhog Day of Mia Copa's

1129
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: on this And for anybody who just started listening, I

1130
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: don't know how many people we have just jumping in

1131
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 3: mid season if you just started listening to Pac twelve apostles.

1132
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't hate Noah fa Fida. I've always thought he

1133
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: was the better quarterback. I just am of the mind

1134
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: that losing your job due to injury is still some

1135
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 3: type of taboo that some coaches adhere to, and Jetfish

1136
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: kept pretending like that was the type of person that

1137
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 3: he was due.

1138
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: It was gonna be a mutiny if he started Jaden

1139
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: Delora again.

1140
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I you know, and Jayden DeLaura is not

1141
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: a terrible quarterback. He's just turned over prone, yep. And

1142
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: Noah Fafda has eliminated a lot of those mistakes. And

1143
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 3: he's playing with his high school teammate team AX, several

1144
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 3: of his high school teammates actually, and uh yeah, I

1145
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: mean it's just a it's it's it's a good it's

1146
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: a good mix. It didn't help in this game that,

1147
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: like right before kickoff they were like, hey, Cole Bishop

1148
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: and basically every Utah defender is not.

1149
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: The tacklers second leading tackler.

1150
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tweeted immediately. I was like, oh god, hit,

1151
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: you might want to put the rent on the over

1152
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: in this game, which almost didn't hit by the way.

1153
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 3: Made me a little nervous, But uh yeah. So what

1154
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: what I didn't love about this game is that Utah

1155
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: actually let the circumstance dictate their offensive game plan. So

1156
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 3: they let the fact that they got down fourteen to

1157
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 3: nothing right away.

1158
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they threw the ball fifty three times with

1159
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: Brighton parns that that is not a winning strategy.

1160
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thrown the ball once. I would have

1161
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 3: been playing defense with my offense, bro, you know, and

1162
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: so I I this was a shocking inability to adjust

1163
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 3: Ah or be patient. I guess by by Utah staff

1164
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 3: that blew me away. I did not like the the

1165
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: strategy in this game.

1166
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: They might need to reevaluate their strength and conditioning program

1167
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: because they've been having a lot of injuries, bro over

1168
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons.

1169
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they they run out of gas at the end

1170
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: of the season. I remember when Michael Bernard was having

1171
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: to play running back and corner a couple of years.

1172
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is too, it's there's something that ain't

1173
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: matching in these scenarios. But shout out to Arizona, Shout

1174
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: out to Jed Fish, who we've talked about already. I

1175
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: think that no matter what happens in the Territorial Cup,

1176
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: he's the coach of the year.

1177
01:14:54,320 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: I agree with you, it is It is fascinating the

1178
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 3: amount of people that I would not think would be

1179
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: on board with Jedfish, just random fans you know of Michigan,

1180
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: State of Texas, A and M that would actually be

1181
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 3: on board with bringing him on.

1182
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 2: Yep, now on to cal Stanford. I'm gonna be honest, Ralph,

1183
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: I did not watch this game.

1184
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1185
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: This is the first game of the entire season that

1186
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: I also did not watch first one. This is the

1187
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: first one I missed probably eight nine games last year.

1188
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: I had a one week where I just didn't even

1189
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 3: record anything, But for the most part, I try to

1190
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 3: consume all of them. This game was to keep col

1191
01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 3: Bull hopes alive, correct last ever broadcast by the PAC

1192
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: twelve network. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was

1193
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 3: their last game ever. Okay, so I recorded it, didn't

1194
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: watch it, watched some highlights afterward. I continue to be

1195
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: a Fernando Mendoza fan. You know what would break my heart,

1196
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: I like you, if if he went into the portal

1197
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: that would that would suck so bad. Yeah, because I

1198
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like he's a product of the

1199
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: of Jake Spavatol a little bit. He I mean he's good, right,

1200
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: but I kind of feel like he's a little bit

1201
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: of a product of Jake Spavaittol. He still got a

1202
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: lot to learn. He had a cool interview this week

1203
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: with Yogi Roth. We heard the stories of him walking

1204
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: around to the tailgates and introducing himself. I just and

1205
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 3: he I mean, he already had the opportunity to leave

1206
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: Cal and didn't. I would it would It would bum

1207
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: me out so bad, so bad. If if if he

1208
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 3: was somebody that looked uh to make the jump, because

1209
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you got, you got. He's playing like twenty

1210
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: five hundred miles from home. Yeah, like he's from Miami.

1211
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know this is I think he's gonna

1212
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 2: be looking for a quarterback.

1213
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna he's gonna be making some A sec

1214
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,919
Speaker 3: trips this year. Maybe he knew, maybe he had the foresight.

1215
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be playing closer to home.

1216
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, y'all ain't gonna recruit me, Okay, cool.

1217
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cal's headquarters are in Charlotte now, But yeah, I

1218
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I really like Fernando Mendoza.

1219
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: I hope that he sticks it out. Do you think

1220
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: there's any whispers or anything at all about the possibility

1221
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 3: of five and seven meaning the end of the Willcox era?

1222
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: Do you even think it's financially nossible?

1223
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 2: No? No, No, I think they give him another shot.

1224
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: I do. I don't know if there's another solution financially,

1225
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: because they got to keep making the right financial decisions.

1226
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 3: Do you think that this could end up being like

1227
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 3: a Northwestern situation.

1228
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh, where the backup where like you d up with

1229
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: Peter Sermon as the coach or something.

1230
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: No, not necessarily that, more like before, like it would

1231
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: take a it would take a hazing scandal to get

1232
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 3: Willcox out. They'll be fine with five and seven three

1233
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 3: years in a row if you throw one to nine

1234
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 3: and four.

1235
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, because it feel

1236
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: feels like they're in survival mode right now. They're getting

1237
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: subsidized partially by U C l A. Yeah. Yeah, I

1238
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: think at some point in time they will want to

1239
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: go back and win after their money gets right.

1240
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I what about what could we see Jadeen ought

1241
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: test the waters? I would not be surprised at that

1242
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 3: even touchdowns.

1243
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would not mind seeing Jade not in Eugene.

1244
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 3: You wouldn't mind a good player playing for the college

1245
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 3: you went to.

1246
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: No way, No, No, I wouldn't. Yeah, I would not. Yeah,

1247
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: that wouldn't bother me at all. I'm gonna tell you.

1248
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: It wouldn't bother you for your life to improve. No,

1249
01:19:59,000 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

1250
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey man, it's funny. It's funny how that works. Funny.

1251
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: But I do I do wonder because we did see

1252
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: a lot of people hop into the portal from portal

1253
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 3: from cal last year. They were obviously very dissatisfied with

1254
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 3: something that was happening up there. Correct, And we've seen

1255
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 3: some of those go on. You know, I think Ben

1256
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 3: Coleman shocked a lot of people jumping into the portal.

1257
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 3: I think that uh Jack Plumber being the quarterback of

1258
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: a ten and one team right now is not something

1259
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 3: that a lot of people saw coming, you know.

1260
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: No, of course not. They were like, oh he was,

1261
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: but but he got beat to hell last year? So

1262
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: what could what more could you have expected out of him?

1263
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1264
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean he's essentially having doing what Sam Howell is

1265
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: doing for the Washington Commanders right now, he's take taking

1266
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: a beat and being all.

1267
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: Right, do you have any any thoughts at all on

1268
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: Troy Taylor?

1269
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 2: I am unsure. I believe that he's clearly a competent

1270
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: coach who could get a team to going in the

1271
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: right direction. He can get people to believe like he's

1272
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: got some real coaching in tangibles. Problem is getting the

1273
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: talent that you need into Stanford and retaining your players,

1274
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: and also getting players out of the portal to plug

1275
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: holes and keeping them for their fifth year, which is important.

1276
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: So if they can fix those changes in the institutional philosophy,

1277
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: then yeah, I do believe that they can have a

1278
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: lot of success.

1279
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: They're still going to get six or seven players a

1280
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 3: year that nobody else could get. But how do they

1281
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: keep their own players from capitalizing on like like I

1282
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 3: am an ore you know, if someone decided he was

1283
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 3: worth a million bucks, how do they stop him from leaving?

1284
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. Oregon States ad just put

1285
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: out in a statement that said that him and coach

1286
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: Smith have had ongoing conversations for more than a month

1287
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 2: regarding his future at Oregon State. In their path for

1288
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: per foot for football specifically, and our athletic department generally.

1289
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: He's embraced our short and long term plans. That sounds

1290
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: like somebody's trying to keep him here. My number one

1291
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 2: priority is providing him with a new contract and guarantee

1292
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,799
Speaker 2: compensation that will help continue the success of the football

1293
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: program that has benefited Oregon State University and the and

1294
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: the Beavers, Beaver's athletics.

1295
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 3: I don't feel good about that because you only have

1296
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 3: to do that if there's a reason to do that.

1297
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 3: You only have to make this statement, if there's a

1298
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 3: reason to make this statement. And now you can at

1299
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: least say like, hey, we're trying. This is crazy. Though

1300
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 3: he's one year deep into his extension, he is locked

1301
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: up through twenty twenty nine. You don't give him a

1302
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: raise right here unless there's you gave him a raise.

1303
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: It already happened. So you don't do this unless there's

1304
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 3: wolves at the door.

1305
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Exactly there and.

1306
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 3: There are by the way, like there are definitely wolves

1307
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: at the door. Jonathan Smith, would it be it? Would

1308
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: it be? Okay? So if Jonathan Smith turns down another

1309
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: school to stay at Oregon State, knowing the future is uncertain,

1310
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 3: but knowing that his paycheck is guaranteed. Would you respect

1311
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,839
Speaker 3: that or would you feel like he made a mistake.

1312
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: I would say he made a mistake unless Oregon's State

1313
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: can find a path forward, if they can present him

1314
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: with a plan that makes sense, I think they're fine.

1315
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 3: But the any plan right now is just trust me,

1316
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 3: bro right.

1317
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yep, Because I don't think it's about the

1318
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 2: money for Jonathan Smith. I think it's about the opportunity,

1319
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: and Oregon State may not be able to provide that opportunity,

1320
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 2: which is a significant problem. Now on to the next

1321
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: game we had Oregon and Arizona State. Now, Ralph, you're

1322
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: probably happy about this, but then frustrated because you're probably like, Bro,

1323
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: what's up?

1324
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 3: Man?

1325
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: Have we just played how we played in the second half?

1326
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Because we outscored Oregon in the second half, we could

1327
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: have won this football game which I was forty nine

1328
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: to thirteen.

1329
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 3: Are you talking about how the team that you root

1330
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: for lost two consecutive quarters to the team that I

1331
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 3: root for and nothing happened after that? And I don't

1332
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: remember what happened before it. I don't know why my

1333
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 3: memory is so hazy about that first half. Could I

1334
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 3: could it be that I had a six pack of

1335
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 3: touchdowns down on my head.

1336
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 2: Dude, Bo Niggs had like, what you have three hundred

1337
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: and fifty yards something like that halftime and six touchdowns

1338
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 2: and he should have had a seventh it's not for

1339
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: a bogus pass interference call. And then and then they

1340
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: took him out of the game.

1341
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's so funny to throw for three hundred

1342
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: and fifty yards in one half. I remember Matt Liinert

1343
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 3: did it one time to the Green Bay Packers in

1344
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: an Arizona Cardinals preseason gave me through for three point

1345
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 3: fifty in one half, and it was one of the

1346
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: funniest things I've ever seen, not as funny when it's

1347
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: happening to you. There was that tight end screen that

1348
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 3: had several three hundred pound players twenty five yards down

1349
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 3: the field, Yeah, clearing out Row Torrents and Jordan Clark

1350
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: getting pushed into the sideline. That was And I think

1351
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: it was probably right after that where you tweeted that like, hey,

1352
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 3: one team looks a lot bigger and faster yea than

1353
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: the other team. That was about the point where I

1354
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 3: was like, oh man, these are some dudes, And I

1355
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: knew that and it backed up everything that I had

1356
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: said going in. None of this is a surprise to anybody.

1357
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: What I am finding that I do not enjoy about

1358
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: Dan Lanning, which came up again this week, is there

1359
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: is no there's nothing in him that doesn't take joy

1360
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: in beating up his friends. Yes, like he he said that,

1361
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: he was like, right, yeah, man, he said it again

1362
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: this week.

1363
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like beating up your little brother.

1364
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: He's he said it again this week that he said,

1365
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 3: what do you tell mateo about going out there and

1366
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: having to pass rush his brother? And Dan Lanning's response

1367
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: was I told him to go hit his brother.

1368
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, not gonna go hit his brother. I don't think

1369
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna try. Obviously he's not gonna try to hurt

1370
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: his brother. But but if he gets a chance to

1371
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: lay one on DJ. You don't think he's gonna do it.

1372
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 3: On big Bro for sure, But for your coach to

1373
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: not even be like, yeah, I know how that can

1374
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: be tough, Like he's not like, no, go hit him

1375
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: as hard as.

1376
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: You as possibly against, as hard as you positively get.

1377
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 3: Dan Lanning is treating real life situations like like friends

1378
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: treat fantasy football, right, Like he.

1379
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: Said like, I'm ready to I'm ready to crush you.

1380
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm ready to crush you. So was there anything positive

1381
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: from this to take out an Arizona State Because they

1382
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: came out trying to swinging gate again, running the option

1383
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: with Jaydon Conyers and and Scataboo, and I was like,

1384
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: this is not gonna work.

1385
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 3: I would say that, Uh, there were the if anything

1386
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 3: good for Arizona State. There were a lot of Oregon

1387
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: fans in the stands a lot. So thank you for

1388
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 3: your donation to Arizona State Athletic department. We appreciate you.

1389
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 3: Relative health. They'll get to Carlos Brooks back next week,

1390
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 3: and they seem to not be competitive in games. He's

1391
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 3: not in. No, it's not great. Bonnick's had more touchdown

1392
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: passes in You said the gaff.

1393
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: To Carlos Brooks back next week.

1394
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: The ASU's quarterbacks have thrown all year.

1395
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was bad. Oh is Rashada coming back this week?

1396
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I believe he will get some reps in the Territorial Cup.

1397
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: Yes, can't wait to see it. All Right, last game

1398
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: and the reason why I left this for the last game,

1399
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: even though it was the first game, because this was

1400
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: the bloodiest of them all. Washington State finally got another win.

1401
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: They sacrificed Colorado fifty six to fourteen. Shadoor Sanders left

1402
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: the game. I was surprised that he made it to

1403
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: this point in the season. He's in absolute shambles. Bro

1404
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: His body is in shambles. He's a broken man.

1405
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 3: There.

1406
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 2: There is no like Dion sick right now, like he

1407
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: had the flu. Look miserable after the game like they

1408
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: like they He flew out separate from the team. That's

1409
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: how sick.

1410
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: He was.

1411
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: Sure Door had to leave the game. They brought in

1412
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: Ryan Stopped. He got beat the hell out of five

1413
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: from fourteen for fifty six yards. Then they brought in

1414
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: a walk on Gavin klud He, Oh, he was bad too.

1415
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the ball, even though they ran forty

1416
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: one times for ninety one yards for two point two

1417
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: yards to carry. He couldn't trying to.

1418
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 3: Get out of there. He's trying to get him out

1419
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 3: of there. That's why they were running. They were literally

1420
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 3: running down the clock.

1421
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

1422
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 3: And you had.

1423
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 2: Cam Ward do his audition for Oregon because no, for real,

1424
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 2: he's auditioning. So it was the kid from Liberty and

1425
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 2: a couple other kids as well, because they're going to

1426
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: try to bring them in the in the transfer portal,

1427
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: and this was a hate win for.

1428
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 3: Sake, part delusion, part in fact.

1429
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: What what's delusional about it?

1430
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's my problem is it sounds delusional on the surface,

1431
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 3: but I know that there's enough truth to to to

1432
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: the possibility of Oregon bringing in some serious talent through

1433
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: the portal that it's I just got to kind of

1434
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 3: let you talk. But I do want to point out

1435
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 3: that to the listener, this is going to hit their

1436
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 3: ear a little funny. Do you not get that? It's obnoxious?

1437
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: There are eleven other teams in the fact twelve, Well,

1438
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: all right, so we need.

1439
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 2: Some players too, Okay, So I'm just I'm just saying,

1440
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: is that okay, So Washington State's going to try to

1441
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: retain cam Ward. Maybe Washington tries to get cam cam Ward.

1442
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: That could that could be an option too, Yeah, definitely

1443
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 2: an option. Cal you know, it's a lot of options.

1444
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm I get it, I get it.

1445
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 3: It's just every every time we talked about a good

1446
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 3: player this week, now the closer we get to December fourth,

1447
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: every time we talked about a good player you're like,

1448
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 3: I would love to see them in yellow and green,

1449
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 3: and knowing that it's actually possible that it could happen

1450
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:22,440
Speaker 3: is quite frustrating.

1451
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, this game was that there was nothing positive

1452
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 2: to take from this from if you were in Colorado.

1453
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing.

1454
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're toast. This is kind of it's a

1455
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 3: mix of who you thought they'd be and who I

1456
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 3: thought they'd be. Right Like, I said the most entertaining

1457
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: and talked about two win team of all time. You

1458
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 3: said between four and six wins.

1459
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: But.

1460
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: They were not going to be able to play defense

1461
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 3: or run the ball all year. Yep, And that's kind

1462
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 3: of what it is. I again, I still believe. I

1463
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 3: still believe. Don't let the downward momentum trick you. They've

1464
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 3: had a couple of players de commit and kind of

1465
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 3: be vocal about it, and Deon Sanders did come out

1466
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 3: and say we're not going to pay for anybody and

1467
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: we're not going to let people hold us financially hostage.

1468
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 3: You either want to come play for me or you don't.

1469
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 3: I love the confidence. We'll see how much it lines

1470
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 3: up with reality. But I do think they're going to

1471
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: get some very very good players this offseason.

1472
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 2: I think I still believe that's that's what it sounds

1473
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: like someday.

1474
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 3: You Indan, I don't think Chador's leaving.

1475
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't think is leaving either. I think he's going

1476
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: to do his dad a solid and position himself to

1477
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 2: be the number one pick for next year.

1478
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 3: Do you think that's smart? Yes?

1479
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, if they can get an offensive line.

1480
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, even though you think he'd probably be a

1481
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: first round pick this year. Yeah, still still okay.

1482
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: It would be questionable. It would be if he has

1483
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 2: a first round pick. It'd be close, though, it'd be

1484
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 2: very very close, all right, he uh no, go on, I.

1485
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say, like I was gonna run through

1486
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 3: and do some pro comps. But like Bo's got a

1487
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 3: little bit of Drew Brees and him and and uh

1488
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 3: and shoulders, got a little bit of Jamis and not

1489
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 3: and like I think people think of Jamis differently than

1490
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 3: him being the number one pick that threw for four

1491
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 3: thousand yards as a as a rookie. You know, but

1492
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm talking about like when Jamis came out

1493
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 3: of Florida State, Jamis he that's in there.

1494
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well uh we no, no, no, I'm not

1495
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: giving him Jamis. Jamis was making risky throws in college

1496
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 2: and he was a turnover machine in college, so I

1497
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 2: I can't give you that.

1498
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 3: He does protect the ball more, but it includes taking

1499
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 3: a lot of sacks. So is he done for? Is

1500
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 3: he done? Is he gonna play against Utah? Is either

1501
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: team gonna be able to field a roster because Kyle

1502
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: Whittingham came out and said everybody's got the flu?

1503
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Sheesh, well we shall we shall see. I think that

1504
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: they're going to try to get another win because there

1505
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: may not be enough Bowl eligible teams. And if you

1506
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 2: don't think that teams are gonna want to take Colorado

1507
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: in a bowl game, oh bro, they needed that. That

1508
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: Stanford win crippled them because now they're in a must

1509
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: win situation.

1510
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 3: Do you need a break?

1511
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I'm good now? All right, So let's

1512
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: finish up with the with the picks for next week?

1513
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 3: We have we have this week?

1514
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: First game is on Friday Friday at five thirty pm.

1515
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: Oregon State, who's.

1516
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 3: On a.

1517
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Is traveling down to Eugene. They are fourteen point underdogs,

1518
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,959
Speaker 2: sixty two and a half over under. Who you got, Ralph.

1519
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 3: God? I still hate Friday games. It doesn't matter how

1520
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 3: late in the season it is.

1521
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: You know what the right answer is, Ralph, Yeah, I

1522
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 2: mean it.

1523
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 3: The line moved a lot.

1524
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, because it started out at eleven and a half.

1525
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 3: So I mean I I'm pretty confident that Oregon States

1526
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 3: defensive backs aren't gonna be able to do anything in

1527
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: the same way that Arizona State's defensive backs weren't able

1528
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 3: to do anything. It's just a matter of how much

1529
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 3: is Oregon State gonna score? And I think this is

1530
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 3: gonna be bad, George, I think it's gonna be bad.

1531
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm thinking like forty to fifteen level, But

1532
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 3: that still hits the under. So I'll say I'll say

1533
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 3: ducks in the under. I took I got all overs

1534
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 3: last week.

1535
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: I got ducks in the under. Two buddy Ducks in

1536
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: the under. Yeah. Yeah, this is not going over sixty

1537
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 2: two and a half, and the less Oregon scores forty nine,

1538
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: you got Colorado Utah. Utah's favored by twenty two point

1539
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 2: fifty two and a half over under. That sort of

1540
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: line suggests that Shader Sanders may not be playing.

1541
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Right because there would be money on Colorado regardless, But

1542
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 3: you know what's Utah going to be able to do.

1543
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: I'll go with the under. Three touchdowns is crazy to

1544
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 3: me based on what we just saw, but I think

1545
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 3: I think that Utah is gonna be playing with a

1546
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 3: little bit of hate in their heart here for the

1547
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: you know the last PAC twelve version of this fake rivalry.

1548
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 3: Give me Utah by twenty four. Utah by twenty five

1549
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 3: will say thirty five to ten, So that will hit

1550
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 3: the under and yeah, I'll take I'll take the utes.

1551
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So I am I hit a little Google machine.

1552
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 2: It is unknown if he will play in the game

1553
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: or not. Now if Utah's if Utah has a bunch

1554
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: of defensive players out, so I'm I'm I'm gonna have

1555
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: to hedge this one, Ralph, Okay that if Shadeer Sanders plays,

1556
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Colorado and the over. If if

1557
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 2: he does not play, I'm taking Utah and the under

1558
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: because Colorado won't score. Won't score, wow, okay, or a

1559
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 2: few field goals or a loan late touchdown.

1560
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you did the should reveal to go to

1561
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Dion and really up the price on doing his data solid.

1562
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Next you'll be like yesterday's prices is not today's prices,

1563
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: all right. Arizona Arizona State Territorial Cup Arizona favor by

1564
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: ten and a half. Favored by ten and a half points.

1565
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: As an ad comes up, who do you have in

1566
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 2: this game? Over under fifty and a half.

1567
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 3: Let's go with the under. I'm sensing a theme and

1568
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 3: this is a heart pick. It's a heart pick. In Tempe,

1569
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 3: Jedfish's last game, question Mark de Carlos Brooks is back.

1570
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm taking Arizona State to cover, but I do think

1571
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 3: it will be in the twenties. Both teams in the twenties,

1572
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 3: So I don't like the I don't like the over.

1573
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm riding with you, buddy, Arizona State and the under.

1574
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: I think that the Jedfish rumors are going to start

1575
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: some drama over there, and teams get weird when when

1576
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 2: their coaches are you know, things are going on. That's

1577
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 2: what's happening in the Oregon Oregon State game. Don't be

1578
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 2: surprised if that one gets a little lumpy at times

1579
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 2: because of that. Washington State Washington over under sixty eight

1580
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: and a half, Washington favored by sixteen and a half.

1581
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 2: I'll start this off by taking Washington State and the over,

1582
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: even though I believe Washington's gonna win this game.

1583
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 3: Wow, So you think it's gonna be points all over

1584
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 3: the place. Huh?

1585
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and Washington State is either going to pull

1586
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: a serious upset or close to it or back door cover.

1587
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess who is the real Washington State? Is

1588
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 3: it the team that went single digits against Arizona and

1589
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 3: Stanford or is it the team that dropped thirty nine

1590
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 3: in a loss at Cal and fifty six against Colorado.

1591
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 3: Some of that was damaged done on defense and also

1592
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 3: shout out to Washington State for doing the Chadure watch

1593
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 3: thing after like every touchdown six times in the first half. Yes,

1594
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 3: give me the under and I will ride with you

1595
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 3: and take Washington State. But again, I think maybe fifteen

1596
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 3: point game. I'm not. I still think it's going to

1597
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 3: be two scores in favor of in favor of Washington.

1598
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think that Washington State has the ability

1599
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 3: to score like that. They have again, two single digit

1600
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 3: output games in which they had their pretty much their

1601
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: whole offense healthy. Washington's defense can do what Stanford or

1602
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Arizona's did, right, I mean, I gotta believe that, So

1603
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 3: I want to believe it so that you know Washington

1604
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: actually represents well and doesn't lose the number four spot

1605
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 3: that they just gained. So give me Washington State. I

1606
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: still think it's a two score win and I'll take

1607
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 3: the under.

1608
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Next game up

1609
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame Stanford. Notre Dame's favored by twenty six points

1610
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: over under fifty one and a half. Not a chance

1611
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: in hell Notre Dame covers this, no chance route.

1612
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I want to say the last PAC

1613
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 3: twelve regular season non conference game ever. Want to say

1614
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 3: it's a hard pick too, but I absolutely believe it.

1615
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 3: I think Stanford's going to cover just because I think that.

1616
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 2: You know, Notre Dames the offense isn't that good and at.

1617
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 3: Twenty four to three, I think Notre Dame would take

1618
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 3: the rest of the day off.

1619
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, Yeah, this is this is this will

1620
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 2: either be some sort of backdoor cover or it'll just

1621
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: be like a sixteen point win, seventeen point win. It

1622
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 2: ain't getting a twenty, it ain't getting the four scores.

1623
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 3: Just tell you.

1624
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 2: Over under fifty one and a half.

1625
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 3: Under, Yes, absolutely, I think I went, I went all

1626
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 3: overs last week, all unders this week.

1627
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: Yep, Cal Ucla. Cal is trying to get bowl eligible.

1628
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Ucla is favored by nine points over under fifty one

1629
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 2: and a half. Remember, Cal's defense can't stop a nosebley.

1630
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 2: UCLA's defense is tough as nails.

1631
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 3: So is this technically a bygate, Yes, yes it is.

1632
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 3: This is the Calimony Bowl, Yes.

1633
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Cal is taking calamony, alimony, child's port, or

1634
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it from UCLA.

1635
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't pay Cal have them beat you

1636
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 3: and then get to go cash a bull check. You can't.

1637
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 3: You can't do that if you're UCLA. But nine points,

1638
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1639
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 2: They believe in their defense, that's what they do. I

1640
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 2: am going to buy Ucla in this one because I

1641
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: do believe that their defense will be able to get stops.

1642
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Jay Not will not be running the ball on them

1643
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: the same way that he didn't run the ball on Oregon,

1644
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 2: and then Mendoza is gonna have to beat you with

1645
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 2: his arm. But that pass rush is wicket. Lat Two's

1646
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: a I mean, dude, if you just put a single

1647
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 2: cam on Latu, who is the defensive player of the

1648
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: year in the PAC twelve. But we will give out

1649
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 2: awards next week. But it's but it's him. Uh yeah,

1650
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 2: So give me Ucla and give me the under.

1651
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take cal in this one, believe it

1652
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,480
Speaker 3: or not, because the last two home performances for UCLA,

1653
01:45:53,320 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 3: scoring twenty eight on Colorado and seven against ASU, the

1654
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl doesn't matter at all to them. They don't

1655
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 3: accomplish anything by winning this game. The athletes, they don't

1656
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 3: care about the calimony that's fun for us. They don't

1657
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: care about that. There's no extra motivation there. UCLA is

1658
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 3: still on that quarter system, so they don't even get vacation. Yeah,

1659
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna. I'm gonna go with and Thanksgiving right

1660
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 3: For some reason, the road teams that didn't get to

1661
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 3: hang out with their families always seemed to fare better

1662
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 3: after Thanksgiving.

1663
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 2: So and now for our contest. So Ralph is up

1664
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 2: eleven to ten because I took Caleb Williams last week,

1665
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 2: who had three hundred and eighty four yards, a touchdown

1666
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: and a pick, but one of the greatest performance because

1667
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 2: they lost only scored twenty points, and he had Troy

1668
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 2: Franklin who had multiple touchdowns killed Arizona State. So he's

1669
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,719
Speaker 2: up eleven to ten. And this week he and Ralph

1670
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 2: is taking Jaquindin Jackson running back from Utah and I

1671
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 2: am taking TJ. Harden running back from UCLA. I need

1672
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 2: this win and so uh yeah, you guys, this has

1673
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 2: packed twelve apostles. I'm George Rice or he's Ralph amas

1674
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 2: In peace out, catch you guys later