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Speaker 2: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the Now Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network, Wednesday, January twenty ninth. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jay Skeets, coming to you live from Atlanta. We got

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Speaker 2: the beard to one Tray Kirby. Hey, Hey, yo, the

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Speaker 2: international man of mystery. Take it to the Max Lee

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Speaker 2: Ellis friend last but not least today making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: It's JD.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: There he is, and here we are. No Task mellowe

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Speaker 2: today or likely for the rest of the week, because

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Speaker 2: that guy is about to be a hashtag girl dad

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Speaker 2: for the second time in his life. Yes, his wife

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Speaker 2: Danielle is expecting another baby girl any minute now really,

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Speaker 2: so we're obviously sending our best to both Tasks and Danielle,

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Speaker 2: and we'll make sure to keep all of you out

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Speaker 2: there posted as soon as we hear the good news.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's official.

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Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot Com. We'll be stepping on the

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Speaker 2: beach tomorrow Thursday, so you still have a little time

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Speaker 2: to get those cues and comments in. And yesterday Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: we did drop a second bonus podcast after the Daily

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Speaker 2: Show where we picked and debated our twenty twenty NBA

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Speaker 2: All Star Reserves. Always one of my favorite shows of

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Speaker 2: the year, so I highly recommend you go download and

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Speaker 2: listen to that one before the big announcement on TNT

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night, because we were picking our teams.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I got it right, so I'm pretty happy.

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Speaker 2: Oh you did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I saw a few tweets a little angry with a

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Speaker 2: couple of your choices, Ellis, but it was a blast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We disagreed on a few in the East and specifically

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Speaker 2: one at the end in the West. You know, there

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Speaker 2: were some walks that we all were like, yeah, that's happening,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna get in there. But it was fun

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Speaker 2: to debate who everybody was going for those last couple

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Speaker 2: to mix it with the boys. Yeah, so go check

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Speaker 2: that out. It's twenty twenty our NBA All Star Reserve picks.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to the games from last night,

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Speaker 2: some of the big storylines coming out of those. We'll

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Speaker 2: touch on those, But first, I know you guys saw it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people listening to this podcast

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Speaker 2: NBA they essentially held awake for Kobe in lieu of

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Speaker 2: foreign players and current analysts and on to share their

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Speaker 2: I thought that first hour especially was therapeutic. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: have a memorable moment from that pregame, T and T's

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Speaker 3: T and T. They just did a They captured the

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Speaker 3: I thought Shaq was just brilliant seeing the big the

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Speaker 3: We were all hoping that would be the case with Kobe,

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Speaker 6: For me, I thought it was all grat up about Kobe,

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Speaker 6: Jerry West is up there too. Lebron will be very powerful.

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Speaker 6: to kind of culminate in this moment was I mean,

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Speaker 6: There are some really good life lessons in there for everybody.

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Speaker 6: Just you really need to make time for the people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it like you could hear the regret

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Speaker 2: wish with other people that had passed in his life,

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Speaker 2: both his sister and people prior. Damn, I should have

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Speaker 6: We got in fights because we were close.

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Speaker 2: It's basically what he said. Yeah. Yeah, And everyone, especially

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Speaker 2: Jerry West, kept echoing the idea of like and and

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Speaker 2: other guys that had played with both of them, They're like,

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Speaker 2: and He's like, all right, let's move on to Wade

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Speaker 2: and let's give it break. And Shack said, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 2: Like just again, how real and raw it was. That's

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Speaker 6: And to me, you could just tell that Shaq had

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Speaker 6: have loved to be able to joke with Kobe about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, Jerry West right there too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: fouling Kobe in that one particular game kept getting away

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Speaker 2: like Wade was getting away with every time in that game,

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Speaker 2: just work on it. I mean that's wait and Waite

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Speaker 2: admitting as such and then saying, oh, then we saw

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Speaker 2: him working out Lebron and I were like, all right, suits,

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Speaker 2: back off, let's get back out there, and we're like,

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Speaker 2: he can't be in our place working on our floor

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Speaker 2: longer than us. I mean again, these are these are

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Speaker 6: This, yeah, people are showing their emotions and you know,

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Speaker 2: So so funny. You're right well keeping it going here

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Speaker 2: with sort of Kobe related items. According to Shams from

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Speaker 2: informally retire the number eight and twenty four uniforms. This

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Speaker 2: was Sham's yesterday. We've seen it already. Spencer Dinwiddie, Terrence

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Speaker 2: know just before we jumped on here to record Markith

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Speaker 2: He's going to twenty eight, so you know, Mo Heartless

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Speaker 2: going to be here. It's all going to be individual, right, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's going to be a pressure because

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Speaker 3: I would do the same because a lot of the time,

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Speaker 6: And it's honestly awesome that they are letting guys wear

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Speaker 6: That does not matter. Yeah, so that's I think that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also wonder I was thinking about this is

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Speaker 2: rid of it. You know, everybody can't wear it, both

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Speaker 2: also if you were wearing it right now, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: twenty four, well, I feel like if you're wearing it,

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Speaker 2: Is there something though, that you like in mind that

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Speaker 3: Similar to the Jackie Robinson in baseball. I think maybe

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Speaker 3: that's something that they could they could do. I don't

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Speaker 3: You know, it's very hard. It's very hard to get

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Speaker 3: that when you know, unfortunately exact if whatever, we don't

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Speaker 3: we have to do that for everybody. So but I

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Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing. It doesn't also need to be

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Speaker 6: They should name the All Star MVP Trophy after Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on this.

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Speaker 6: He's got the most All Star MVPs of all time,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I co sign one thousand percent. I mean, especially

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Speaker 2: So naming the trophy after him in that game I.

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Speaker 6: Kind of broke with in an All Star game.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that would have been, honestly, like

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Speaker 2: moving ten twenty years downline, an appropriate decision if you

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Speaker 2: I would also like to see these guys, in all honesty,

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Speaker 2: take some of that Mamba mentality throw it into this

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Speaker 2: a little fire and because we've talked about that, you know,

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Speaker 2: for for years and years and years. Oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: what's the point of this game exhibition? You no one tries?

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Speaker 2: What's the point?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: That'd be sort of cool. So yeah, I'm with you

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Speaker 2: on the All Star Game, MVP. I actually think that's

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Speaker 2: something they will do too. Yeah, like I said, all right,

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Speaker 2: last night's games in headline form, guys, all right, first

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Speaker 2: one without Giannis. Chris Middleton's career night carries Bucks. Middleton

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Speaker 2: fifty one points, ten boards, six assists on sixteen for

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Speaker 2: twenty six shooting Lily Love. I mean it would have been, honestly,

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Speaker 2: that would have been maybe one of the best WOA

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Speaker 2: boys of the year had a little defense been sprinkled

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Speaker 2: in there. But you know it's always tough. You put

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Speaker 2: that on the graphic. You got the no steals, no block,

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Speaker 2: But what a line. Middleton's previous career. I was forty

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Speaker 2: three at Charlotte back in twenty seventeen. Chris Middleton lee.

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Speaker 3: Just after I said he never goes out and get you.

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Speaker 2: That's funny you said that. We saw a lot of

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Speaker 2: people tweeting this, and I made sure JD grabbed the

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Speaker 2: clip from our All Star show that we picked our reserves. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like less than twenty four hours ago.

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Speaker 3: Here's the clip, and Middleton doesn't have a super flashy game.

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Speaker 3: He never really goes out there and gives you sort

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Speaker 3: of forty five. And he's not talking trash or getting out,

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Speaker 3: but he just goes out there does his job. Bud's

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Speaker 3: got a lot of guys there who can play a

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Speaker 3: lot of minutes. When Middleton went down, they didn't really

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Speaker 3: miss him. Other guys sort of step in and take

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Speaker 3: his place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't give you forty five. You're not technically right.

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Speaker 2: It gives you fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. I will say it was against the Wizard,

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Speaker 3: so that's not a real fifty one. It's more of

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Speaker 3: like a thirty eight. But again, we had Fred. We

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Speaker 3: had Fred Katz in here the other day saying that

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Speaker 3: every fife hundred and fifty point game the Wizards are

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Speaker 3: involved in it. Once again, the Wizards are on the

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Speaker 3: wrong end of a one hundred and fifty point game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know. Middleton was feeling it,

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Speaker 2: and oh man, it's it is. Obviously we talked about

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Speaker 2: his efficiency on that All Star Show. When we were

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Speaker 2: picking our reserves, he was flirting with fifty forty ninety

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Speaker 2: at the time. He is now a part right now

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Speaker 2: of the fifty to forty ninety club fifty percent from

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Speaker 2: the floor, forty plus from three ninety plus at the

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Speaker 2: line because he went perfect in this game and that

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Speaker 2: bumped them up a little bit. But yeah, when Chris

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Speaker 2: middle is strolling down the lane and throwing down a

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Speaker 2: big dunk, you know the d's not locked in that

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Speaker 2: much that was You're not seeing that from Middleton all

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Speaker 2: that much. But look that jumper was. Yes, that thing

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Speaker 2: was barely hitting rim on most of his shots.

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Speaker 6: Loss.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's a wind desisted fifty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like someone running the hundred or two hundred,

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Speaker 2: but then you got the wind behind. It's nice run.

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Speaker 3: But because the Wizards made it fake close as well

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Speaker 3: in this game. Yeah, it did so good for Chris.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for him. He's gonna get the recognition tomorrow

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Speaker 3: night on T and T when he gets named as

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Speaker 3: a reserve too. He's an underrated.

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Speaker 6: Player, and hey, one hundred and fifty points even if

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Speaker 6: it can if it's against the Washington Wizards, that's a

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Speaker 6: lot of points. And I mean Middleton he was on fire,

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Speaker 6: but a lot of his jumpers were open or like

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Speaker 6: a guy's running out him. Give him the simplest pump fake.

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Speaker 6: Just take a little side step and you're Knocknna DOWNB.

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Speaker 6: If you're scoring one hundred and fifty against any team

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Speaker 6: without your MVP, that's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 6: Heading into the playoffs, the question will be what happens

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Speaker 6: when Giannis doesn't have it going? What happens when a

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Speaker 6: team figures out a way to make it tough on

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Speaker 6: Giannis and they got to find a plan B. Chris

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Speaker 6: Middleton is showing he can be an incredible plan B. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He had twenty eight first half points and the Bucks

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Speaker 2: put up eighty eight points before the half, only the

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Speaker 2: eighth team in the shot clock era to reach that

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Speaker 2: eighty eight point mark in a first half. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: something else. Eric Bledsoe by the way, thirty four and

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Speaker 2: ten to go along with Middleton's fifty one and ten

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Speaker 2: and six. Bucks improved four and oh without Giannis. So

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Speaker 2: the Bucks are actually better without honest technically overrated?

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Speaker 3: Yeah trading, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe look to cash in on them right now? You're right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bucks continuing to roll. The one thing you did get

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Speaker 2: right though, when we were talking in that All Star podcast.

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Speaker 2: Lee was like, no one is talking at all, and

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Speaker 2: this Middleton included about this Bucks team who is now

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Speaker 2: forty one and six yep and are on pace. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and now there's talk like I guess was it their

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Speaker 2: owner that just came out and maybe told Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: they're chasing Chase they were chasing the bulls plus wins

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Speaker 2: and I guess you'd have to get to the to

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Speaker 2: the seventy three to title.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I saw like a pitcher going pitching

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Speaker 2: a perfect game in like the sixth inning right now,

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Speaker 2: and I don't even know if we're in the sixth

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Speaker 2: We're like through five pitchers looked dominant, a lot of strikeouts,

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Speaker 2: but we're not well. Yeah, I didn't say anything. We're

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Speaker 2: not talking about it yet. Of the Bucks trying to

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Speaker 2: break that record, here's the next headline. Raptors Kyle Lowry

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Speaker 2: breaks the all time franchise record four assists. Lowry twelve

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Speaker 2: and eleven last night, eleven assists while becoming Toronto's career

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Speaker 2: assist leader. That ninth assist a little long outlet pass

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Speaker 2: Terrence Davis layup in the fourth Lowry moved past Ham's

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Speaker 2: Jose Calderon on Toronto's career list. He eclipsed color owns

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Speaker 2: three thy seven and seventy assists. Lowry now the franchise

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Speaker 2: leader in assists, already the franchise leader in three point

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Speaker 2: field goals and steals.

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Speaker 3: He's had quite remarkable rapped his career when you think

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Speaker 3: about it, and he didn't want to go there in

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Speaker 3: the first place. He thought he was getting traded, and

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Speaker 3: now I think it's pretty unanimous that he's regarded as

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Speaker 3: the best Raptor of all time. You know, obviously Vince

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Speaker 3: has been more impactful from a global standpoint, Chris Bosh

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Speaker 3: was probably a better player per se in his prime

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Speaker 3: there in Toronto. But Larry has just kind of gritted

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Speaker 3: and grinded his way to become beloved by Raptors fans everywhere,

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Speaker 3: a champion, All Star, All NBA and now holding numerous

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Speaker 3: accolades as the franchise leader. So it really to me,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't have thought this was going to be the

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Speaker 3: way it was going to going when he got traded

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Speaker 3: to Toronto, and then when he basically had his bags packed,

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Speaker 3: he said because he was going to the Knicks and

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Speaker 3: instead that trade falls through, and the turnaround from that

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Speaker 3: has just been incredible.

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Speaker 6: Still a roller coaster season. I feel like for the

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Speaker 6: Raptors though, they're just giving you a lot of upseason downs.

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Speaker 6: Is because eighth Street wins. They are now the second

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Speaker 6: seed in the Eastern Conference. But another two guys go hurt.

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Speaker 6: As soon as they get healthy, somebody goes out. Last night,

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Speaker 6: it was Og and Mark Gasol. I think Gasol's not

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Speaker 6: going to be playing tonight or are the next game

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Speaker 6: Cleveland on Thursday. So I don't know. The Raptors have

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Speaker 6: done pretty good, and I guess they're probably getting used

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Speaker 6: to playing without most of their starters and you know,

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Speaker 6: the bench guys. The reserves are producing. But man, it

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Speaker 6: would be nice if they could actually stay healthy and

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Speaker 6: put together their team and so we can see how

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Speaker 6: good are they really are. They actually a dark horse

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Speaker 6: to get to the NBA Finals. I don't think it's

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Speaker 6: out of the question, depending on what happens with the

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Speaker 6: Bucks in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raps did beat the Hawks by the way

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Speaker 2: here one thirty to one fourteen. It was cool. Vince

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Speaker 2: Carter was there and they got to share a moment.

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Speaker 2: Lowry and and Carter when Lowry hit this achievement or

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Speaker 2: passed Jose Calder and Jose had a video up too.

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Speaker 2: They had him. That was pretty neat that they were

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Speaker 2: sharing congratulating him. This was cool too. From this game,

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Speaker 2: when the Hawks reached eighty one points late in the third,

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Speaker 2: the digits were displayed in purple on the scoreboard in

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Speaker 2: tribute to Kobe, who obviously scored a career high eighty

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Speaker 2: one against Toronto way back in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: The plan was it was going to change purple if

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Speaker 2: they if any team had hit eight twenty four or

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Speaker 2: the eighty one, And it only happened the one time

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Speaker 2: in this game, and that was the one. But it

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Speaker 2: looked pretty cool. Yeah, you're right, though, reps they dominate.

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Speaker 2: You have this cool achievement and then two more guys

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Speaker 2: go out. It's a they just they've just had one

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Speaker 2: of those seasons. But maybe come April and that whole team,

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Speaker 2: full squad, is there, they're gonna be a tough out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, whether or not they're going back to the

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Speaker 2: finals or even the conference finals. Who whenever they whenever

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Speaker 2: they do go out, if they do, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a war. They are not going to go down without

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Speaker 2: a fight. They are no one I don't think is

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Speaker 2: going to want to really play them because their defense

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Speaker 2: is elite. And then they get all these contributions, and

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Speaker 2: they have of course that experience now from last year

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Speaker 2: and years prior really of being in those dog fights

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, we.

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Speaker 3: Know, losing the playoffs. The rep Is it sometimes looks

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Speaker 3: like they're an awful team in the playoffs and other

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Speaker 3: times I look unbeatable. Yeah, you know, that's that's the

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Speaker 3: roller coaster of the rep Is. They never really seemed

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Speaker 3: to sort of crush our parents. It's like make it

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Speaker 3: way hotter than it needs to. But they can also

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Speaker 3: get over the line. So who knows man.

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Speaker 2: Next one here? Jewell and Bee we talked about it

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Speaker 2: very briefly. We sprinkled it in there, but Jewel Embiid

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Speaker 2: wears number twenty four and scores twenty four points as

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Speaker 2: the seventy six ers honor late late Lakers legend Kobe

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Speaker 2: and be. This was sort of pretty cool, I thought.

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Speaker 2: Embiid called up Philadelphia legend Bobby Jones to ask him

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Speaker 2: to ask Jones if he could wear his retired number

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Speaker 2: twenty four as attribute to Kobe, and Jones agreed, but

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Speaker 2: he had like rules for which I thought was neat.

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Speaker 2: And I know the Sixers were sharing this on their

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Speaker 2: social media channels. You know, Bobby Jones was saying, I

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Speaker 2: shared with it Embiid that Kobe, in addition to doing

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Speaker 2: all that scoring, was a twelve time All defensive player.

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Speaker 2: I only made it eleven times. So there's a lot

649
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Speaker 2: of defense that goes into that number twenty four. I

650
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: told Joel to play hard defense because that is what

651
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: the number twenty four represents in my mind. I thought

652
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: that was pretty cool. And then then he gets the

653
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: twenty four points and he's hitting the fadeaway shot and

654
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Kobe awesome.

655
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: After the game too. Serena winter Wins has interviewed him

656
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: and said, basically, his first time he was watching basketball

657
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: was Kobe in the finals, which is incredible to see.

658
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: That was like nine ten years ago, and now here's

659
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid, an All Star and All NBA player himself

660
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: in the NBA and he's only started playing basketball ten

661
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: years or so ago. That's just amazing. I know Pascal

662
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: Siakam has a similar story to that, but you know,

663
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: to just pick up the game and then to be

664
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Speaker 3: a dominant player in the world is incredible. Incredible.

665
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the Sixers got that win, and you look

666
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: pretty solid coming back. This was his first game back

667
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: from the hand injury and had it all bandaged up,

668
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: but looked decent out there in that victory.

669
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Speaker 6: And the Sixers were still played kind of fast. You know,

670
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 6: they weren't just waiting around for Embiid to get set up.

671
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 6: He was playing a little bit of, you know, the

672
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 6: trail role, while also still able to get his post

673
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 6: touches like he needs. How old Net's had a big

674
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 6: game and I think he's become a little bit important

675
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 6: for the Sixers. They need somebody else out there who

676
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 6: can head an outside shot and can make some plays,

677
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 6: which then lets Simmons play somewhere else off the ball,

678
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 6: just gives them a little bit more shooting, keeps the

679
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 6: pace going. So, you know, Netto being in the lineup,

680
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 6: cork Mos being in the lineup has definitely.

681
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Helped the Sixers.

682
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Speaker 6: How reliable are those guys going to become playoff time?

683
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 6: We will see, But that to me, you know, there's

684
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 6: always talk about the Sixers need to upgrade, like they're

685
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 6: wing shooting or get another shooter all this kind of stuff.

686
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 6: They need to get a really good backup point guard

687
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 6: who can stop up minutes. They need their version of

688
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 6: George Hill or Fred van Vliet, somebody who can win

689
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: a quarter for you if you need it.

690
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. Next headline, Here is a

691
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: good game, good win. Jalen Brown, Gordon Hayward lead the

692
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Celtics over the Miami He one oh nine, one oh

693
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: one jail in twenty five points on ten to sixteen

694
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Speaker 2: shooting with go along with five assists. Commissioner Gordon twenty

695
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: nine points on ten of fourteen from the field with

696
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: nine boards notatum in this one. Celtics go into Miami

697
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: where not a lot of people go down there and

698
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: get the victory, and they do. Uh, you know, honestly,

699
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: a really really, I thought, solid win from Boston, even

700
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: on a night where Kemba was not really you know,

701
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: killing it. He wasn't feeling it, and Marcus Smart was

702
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: classic Marcus Smart. He wasn't great for a long time.

703
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: And then he hits the only shot really the matters.

704
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: He hits that big dagger three with about two minutes ago.

705
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: That that ice the game fro.

706
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: And that sort of tap back that he had and

707
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: that missed. I mean again, that's a classic Marcus Smart

708
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: highlight reel, you know, play, but not one that you're

709
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: going to sort of see in the box score. Just

710
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: an incredible tap smart stuff from him. But yeah, the

711
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: Celtics got ahead and just managed to always keep Miami

712
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: at sort of arms distance in this one. And yeah, important,

713
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: very important win for the Celtics and Miami at home.

714
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: It's a it's a very very tough place, only their

715
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: third loss this season. So good stuff from Boston. And yeah,

716
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: I thought Jalen Brown, who might be an All star reserved.

717
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: Names, feeling pretty good. And we were feeling good about

718
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: the Booker pick too game going into Dallas. Everybody's feeling good.

719
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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, guys, just guys.

720
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, Jellen was. He just looked at times

721
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: like by far the most athletic guy on the court.

722
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: It probably is in a game with a lot of

723
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: them talented guys out there, a lot of guys. Man,

724
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: he was slashing and nice little finishes.

725
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: He was great.

726
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: And you have the three pointer, are going to you

727
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: pare it with that, and you're you're feeling good and

728
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: and Hayward, this look the Celtics are no joke. When

729
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: this is the Hayward that's playing, that's to me what

730
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: it is. Tatum and Brown, we know what they're capable of,

731
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: where they are right now in their careers. We know

732
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: what's smart's gonna give you. He's gonna miss ten shots

733
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: and he's gonna hit an import one, and he's gonna

734
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: make all these important plays. But it's that to me,

735
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: it's that it is Gordon Hayward. He is the He

736
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: is a massive wild card in any sort of playoff

737
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: round for their chances going forward.

738
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Speaker 6: And I would say that was his best game since

739
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 6: coming back from injury. And before he went out with

740
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: that injury, we were talking about how he had his

741
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 6: body just seemed normal again and how he, you know,

742
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 6: was able to master the slowing down and the guy

743
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 6: kind of just jets on by you, but you keep

744
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 6: control and hit a little bank shot. He was doing

745
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: a lot of that last night. He can create plays

746
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: for others, he can shoot from the outside, he can

747
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 6: get to the hoop and get some buckets. Gordon's certainly

748
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: an X factor and you know, coming into the season,

749
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 6: maybe he would have had some All Star buzz. None

750
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 6: right now, but I think that's just a function of

751
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 6: him being a good team guy.

752
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Right now, and you look at the Eastern Conference right now,

753
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: just the you know, the Bucks are running away with it,

754
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: of course, but then Toronto, you said, moved into second.

755
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: They're thirty three and fourteen. Well, Miami's in third, thirty

756
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: two and fifteen, Boston's thirty one and fifteen and fourth,

757
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: Philadelphia's thirty one and seventeen, they're in fifth, and then

758
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: the Pacers, who are getting Oladipo back tonight, they're thirty

759
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: and seventeen. Three wins in the three games or three

760
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: wins in that win column separating these five teams. Oh

761
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: my goodness, this is good. Like this like that win

762
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Speaker 2: is My point is that win could matter as one

763
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: of those ones. I saw, you know, ghos face Siller

764
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: right about it in his little right up today and

765
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: good morning it's basketball. It's like there are less than

766
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: three dozen games left this season like this, these type

767
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: of wins matter a lot when we're talking seeding and

768
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: who plays who in a first or then maybe even

769
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: eventually a second round. So really really impressive Celtics win

770
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: again without Jason Tina even in the lane up and

771
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I said it final one. Victor Oladipo returns to the

772
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Speaker 2: Piecers to nate It's been a year years since we've

773
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: seen this play. This guy played basketball. But what do

774
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: you what do you expect to see from all the

775
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: deeople in his first game back in a long long time.

776
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Speaker 3: Well, I guess he's going to come off the bench,

777
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: and yeah, by all accounts, it's against the Bulls, so

778
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: there will probably be some chance for him to come

779
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: out there and get a couple of good looks and

780
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: some easy baskets and feel his way back into the

781
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: game pretty well. So it's a good game for him

782
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: to come back against that with him sitting.

783
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Speaker 6: Right here, and the Balls are only two games out

784
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 6: of the playoffs, two and a half out of the

785
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: seventh seed.

786
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pacers are back to run. The Paces are

787
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: a nine point favorite going into tonight. So that just

788
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: shows that, you know, the Pacers, you know, I have

789
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: been a very very good team, and so I think

790
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: all the depot's probably going to spend I would guess,

791
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: you know, four or five games until he feels really

792
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: good coming off the bench.

793
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: But I think they'll they'll slow play it.

794
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: I don't see why they would rush him in when

795
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: they're playing well, and you know, he doesn't seem the

796
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: sort of guy to me. He's like, all right, I'm back,

797
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: give me my shots when the teams you know, things

798
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: are going well for them. I think he could be

799
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: a really impactful player, you know, as the second unit

800
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: guy for them. So but maybe Nate mc millan's like,

801
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: you know what if he's ready to go a couple

802
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: of games banks straight back in there. I'm not sure.

803
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: Because he's an All Star, he's a great player.

804
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there can always be growing pains when you

805
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: add a guy of his caliber and all NBA guy

806
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: that is that you know, is their bucket getter. I mean,

807
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: it's just changes rules for everybody else. It's just what happens, definitely,

808
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: how everybody adapts. He's never played with Malcolm Brockton, who

809
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: handles the ball. TJ.

810
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 6: Warren is a guy who scores a lot of points. Now,

811
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 6: Demonta Sabonis, I would say, is even more involved in

812
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 6: the offense than he was last season. There are things

813
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 6: to figure out, which is why I would say, you know,

814
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 6: just take your time, Victor, play five minutes, ten minutes tonight.

815
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Speaker 6: Just take it easy. This is a tough injury to

816
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 6: come back from. The two guys that I remember having

817
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 6: quad problems, Tony Parker, he was quite diminished when he

818
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 6: came back from his torn quad tendon. He was also

819
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 6: thirty five when it happened, which is different, and then

820
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard also had his quad problems, missed basically an

821
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 6: entire season. It's a tricky thing. Yeah, there's a lot

822
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 6: of load on that that ten and going into your name,

823
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 6: your huge muscles there, so you know, if you want

824
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 6: to just come back against the team that's not the

825
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 6: Bulls whatever.

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Speaker 2: He says, he feels good by all accountsl Ladipo. He

827
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: says he's even gonna have that mindset. Hey, I'm not

828
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna be afraid to try and go get forty, but

829
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna, like obviously try and work my way into

830
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: to the success we're having here without me. I thought

831
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: this was cool I saw on Pacers dot Com. You know,

832
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: Nate McMillan sort of actually has sort of first hand

833
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: knowledge or experience with sort of abruptly changing roles four

834
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: seasons into his career. Nate McMillan, he was he started

835
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: nearly ninety percent of the games for the Sonics. I mean,

836
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: he was a starting point guard. He was a starting guard.

837
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: Then on Draft Night nineteen ninety, Sonics draft Gary Payton

838
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: and second overall pick, and they're like, well, he's going

839
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: to be next season starter. And again this on Pacers

840
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: dot Com. I mean I was learning reading it. It

841
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: was like, I guess another team came to McMillan was like, well, hey,

842
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: you're a starter caliber guy. They're saying, Gep's gonna be starting.

843
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: Do you want to like get traded or come come

844
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: play for us? And he's like, no, I'm gonna make

845
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: this work. So, you know, for the rest of a

846
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: good chunk of his career he was like a part

847
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: time starter, but for the most part was coming off

848
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: the bench. And obviously, you know, had some successful teams

849
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: and every won the championship, but made it work with

850
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: GPS starting. So maybe that that helps. Again, like I'm

851
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: not saying, Holy Depo is gonna be like not, he's

852
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: gonna be coming off the bench of the rest of

853
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: the season. My point is somebody is always like Lamb

854
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: or whoever, like someone's gonna have to just adapt to

855
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: that role. And maybe naming Millenken's being able to speak

856
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: firsthand about his experience with it. We'll help, We'll see.

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Speaker 7: Let's get to tweeted the night, tweet O the night.

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Speaker 7: Wow Twitter, leally you got tweet the night?

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Speaker 3: What do you got for? Yeah? I have. This one

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Speaker 3: sort of falls out at the boundary of Twitter the night.

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Speaker 3: It goes back about thirty six hours now. But it

862
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: was such a good one and such a fun one

863
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: because with so many people sharing their favorite memories and

864
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: moments of Kobe. I really like this into action really,

865
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Speaker 3: I guess from Swaggy Pe and Lou Williams because Swaggy

866
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: P tweeted this one out. I just seen your man

867
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Speaker 3: and you was talking about the broke thumb story. Lol.

868
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: Crazy ass didn't believe me, but I tell you was

869
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: the was the first person to check up on me

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Speaker 3: before surgery. And after I told him I'm gonna tell

871
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: the story of him throwing my shoes in the trash next,

872
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: and he laughed, and then he tweeted again, I can't

873
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: believe that was our last time talking. This shit hurt

874
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: and then that story about throwing shoes in the trash.

875
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: Lou Williams also chimed in and said, once we got

876
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: blue out in Portland. He took everybody, everybody Kobe's and

877
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: said they couldn't wear him because we were soft. And

878
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: I just thought, I can just imagine Kobe going into

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: that locker room after they get blown out, going up

880
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: to the guys with Coby, gimme just give him to him,

881
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 3: give them to no, you know, really pissed off, really angry,

882
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: and if it was like it's all right, man, no,

883
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: give him to me right now, and taking it like

884
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: and put him in a big bag, taking him out

885
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Speaker 3: the back and just throwing like thousands of dollars worth

886
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Speaker 3: of shoes in the trash because his team just didn't

887
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: play I don't know, and weren't deserving. I mean, those

888
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: are the sorts of stories that, you know, just show

889
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: his crazy competitiveness. Like it was probably just a you know,

890
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: mid season game that no one really cared about, but

891
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: Kobe was just so upset with everybody he said, get

892
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: my shoes off. You're not wearing him anymore. So there

893
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Speaker 3: you go. Tweet of the last thirty six hours.

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Speaker 2: No, I like it. I like it, although I will

895
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Speaker 2: say I don't know how you didn't pick yourself for

896
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: tweeted Lee tweeted last night. Uh, excuse me with this

897
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: dance cam clip from Cleveland. We got the clip, so okay,

898
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Speaker 2: let me if you haven't seen it, go to Lee's

899
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Speaker 2: Twitter account. I retweeted it too, but it's uh, it's

900
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Speaker 2: a clip of you know, like any dance cam clip

901
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: on the crowd, there's one older guy dancing poorly. I

902
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: guess you know, there's a bunch of kids around them too,

903
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh yeah, I'm on the jobble trot.

904
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Speaker 2: And then you hear it because you don't see this

905
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Speaker 2: the Calves, you know, in arena game ops guy or

906
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: whatever on the mic say this like we just heard

907
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: one more one more time Gio, So do we know

908
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: anything more about Disley? Like, did anyone from the Calves

909
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: like explain it or what I mean? I'm so confused.

910
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: No one from the Calves officially, but a couple of

911
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: people who were at the game tweeted me and said,

912
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Speaker 3: you know, did I just see you on the dance

913
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Speaker 3: cam or something like that, And I just thought, oh, well,

914
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Speaker 3: maybe there was just you know, someone who looked like

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Speaker 3: me up there. But then someone sent me a direct

916
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: message on Twitter here and said, where is it? Let

917
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Speaker 3: me find it here? I swear the stadium announcer in

918
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Peal's game said your name was going through

919
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: calling out people in the crowd for a dance. Off

920
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: camera shows a guy with glasses. He says, Hey, I

921
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: see you le Ellis. So I'm like, my god, So

922
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: I had to go and dig in and I found it.

923
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Speaker 3: And it was pretty funny because he ye, bring it

924
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Leo whatever he says at the end like it wasn't.

925
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Speaker 2: But here's the weird part. The guy. I mean, well, Tray,

926
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Speaker 2: I've been disagreeing a little bit over the clip. I

927
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: don't think he looks that much like you. I've seen

928
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: other people look way more like you. And he's not

929
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Speaker 2: wearing glasses. Catch. So there's the guy, and he's dancing

930
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: like Lee would probably maybe dance. If he's on the

931
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: dance canters yeah, the face. But then there is a kid,

932
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Speaker 2: because I saw other people tweeting, no, he's referencing the

933
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Speaker 2: little kid in glasses. It's a young Lee Ellis. Now,

934
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Speaker 2: I think that's a real stretch.

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Speaker 6: If you know who Lee Ellis is, you don't, you

936
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Speaker 6: don't think it's a kid, right.

937
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Speaker 3: But the weird thing is the bigger guy doesn't really

938
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Speaker 3: have a bead.

939
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Speaker 2: He doesn't really look like you. I gotta be honest,

940
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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. That's why it's very confusing.

941
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Speaker 6: He actually, I thought the guy looks like there's so

942
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 6: there's like this dumb picture of a guy at a

943
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 6: Raptors game, like went rolling his shirt who people thought

944
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 6: looked like.

945
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: Lee as well. He looks like that guy. So he

946
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: looks like a guy that looks likely. I gotta I

947
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: gotta take this lint roller up. Oh I love it.

948
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Speaker 6: I love it.

949
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: Like joy in the guy's voice, like I'll see Eli

950
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: is like he's loving it, and like is he just

951
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: saying it to make himself laugh?

952
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Speaker 4: Like?

953
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, like how many people in that arena? I

954
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: guess maybe a couple because you said you DM you

955
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: but five out of the I don't know how many

956
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: were in that game last like ten thousand plus. I

957
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: guess how many get that reference?

958
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: I guess whoever it was used to watch on TV

959
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: and stuff.

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00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: We were in Cleveland a lot. Yeah, I mean you know, right,

961
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: well what you sort of look like?

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00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Look, look, look if you're this particular gentleman that made

963
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: the call or someone in the CAS organization that knows

964
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more about this the inside joke or whatever.

965
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Holler at us, get at Lee Ellis or get at

966
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: no dunks ink on Twitter. Would love to hear the

967
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: backstory behind this or is it just spur of the

968
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: moment that guys sort of looks likely that guy's dancing funny?

969
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Maybe I should Maybe I should try to work it

970
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: here and say I was offended and the only way

971
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: they could make it up to me get tickets, Yeah,

972
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: get tickets. Let me sit on the bench for a game.

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00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, okay, let me get a run in here.

974
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: On the court.

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00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. There you go. See it's all coming together there.

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Speaker 6: Another sad part of this video, though, is that nobody

977
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 6: knows the macarena anymore.

978
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's a long time ago that the

980
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 6: macarena was popping. But each one, teach one, we got

981
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 6: to pass this thing down to children.

982
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Even I, off the top of my head, know the

983
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: basic macarena moves right there, crossing of the.

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00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: R yeah, times out first, then a cross body, and

985
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: then you do a little well over over under under

986
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: cross cross wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right right right. I'll re enact it later

988
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: with the real Lyells, and then I'll be the guy like,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night's game was the Celtics in Miami. Miami was

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00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half.

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00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 7: Close line.

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00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Tass, he has to swerve from here on out to

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00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: even give himself a chance of tying in the month

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Speaker 2: of January to.

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00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: Get back into it.

1024
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: He swerved, He took the Celtics, and he won. Everybody

1025
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: else took the heat, so Tass is technically still alive.

1026
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: When it comes to maybe catching tray or eye. Tass

1027
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: is eight and eleven, Trey and I are eleven and eight,

1028
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: and Lee is now twelve and seven, So three nights

1029
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: left here in January. Tass, he threw the game at

1030
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: us to pick from, and he already told us who

1031
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: he's picking. So the game is Houston at Portland. Portland

1032
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half similar line, exact same

1033
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: line as last night. Home team favored by one and

1034
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: a half. Tass is taking the Houston Rockets. So Lee

1035
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: just quickly make your pick who you got.

1036
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: I'm going with it the Blazes because uh Russell M.

1037
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: Brook Nevi bates Diamian Lilt.

1038
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that.

1039
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: I like that.

1040
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So so Lee's got the Blazers, Test has the Rockets. Now, Trey,

1041
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: it's uh. I mean, let's let's be honest to keep

1042
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: this at least someone interesting. At least one of us

1043
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: should take U should take the Blazers, right to flip

1044
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: it on Task.

1045
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was actually gonna take the Celtics last night,

1046
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: but then Task hopped in quickly with the Celtics, so

1047
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 6: I had to reverse swerve on them.

1048
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh, to keep it interesting.

1049
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 6: And I'll do it again. This is the third game

1050
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 6: in four nights for the Rockets, fourth and six nights.

1051
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 6: Give me the Blazes.

1052
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: So now, okay, well, if you did it last night,

1053
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: then I'll do it tonight and then we might have

1054
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: to go to paper Rocks as there's or something tomorrow.

1055
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: So I will take the Rockets. I'm with Tasks. No, no,

1056
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: what am I saying? Yeah, you're you know you're doing

1057
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: me a favor, is what I should be saying, yeah,

1058
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: you're doing me a favorite. Well, thank you. Okay, I

1059
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: got the Rockets with tasks. You guys got the Blazers.

1060
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Good luck to everybody. Maybe it ends in a tie

1061
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: and then we'll have to figure it out from there.

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Speaker 2: Brace the day, people, you could stay every day.

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Speaker 7: I d be happy every many.

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Speaker 4: Wonder it's Super Bowl week.

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Speaker 1: Kavitha, Yeah, man, I mean Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs

1079
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: just went off during these playoffs and that Niners defense

1080
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: is just stout.

1081
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: Right, and the one guy every one will be watching

1082
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: closely is the dude who torched the souls of Packers

1083
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: fans and basically gave Jimmy Garoppolo the day off.

1084
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Shirts at Shide.

1085
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: I'm not their first down, Carrian Moore, how about a touchdown?

1086
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: His four touchdown of the ball game.

1087
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: Raheem Moster ran for two hundred and twenty yards and

1088
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: four touchdowns against Green Bay. This is the guy who

1089
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: was cut by six different NFL teams and who before

1090
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: the season was mostly seen as a special teams player.

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00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 4: And so today we're going to speak with the athletics

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Speaker 4: Tim Kawakami, who has been covering the forty nine ers

1093
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: for years, about how much of a surprise Moster's performance

1094
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: really was, if he was a one game wonder, and

1095
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: how surfing has influenced the way he runs.

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00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 8: The wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very

1097
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: interesting kind of combination of a surfer running back.

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: From wondery and the athletic I'm under Skelto and.

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00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm Vitha Davidson. This is the lead, and it felt.

1100
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 6: Like something great was happening.

1101
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 8: There was just something about the emotion and.

1102
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: That the past don't matter because he got this.

1103
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: This isn't a story where the.

1104
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: Interviewed the athlete go home. It stays with you.

1105
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: So Tim Raheem Mostart's performance against the Packers was truly historic.

1106
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: What was his reaction after the game?

1107
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 8: He was like, yay, Raheem, did you know that was

1108
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 8: one of the greatest games the running back ever had

1109
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 8: in the NFC Championship?

1110
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 5: No, I did not, actually, and truthfully, for you to

1111
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: even say that right now, it's like I'm still shocked,

1112
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: Like I can't believe that.

1113
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 8: That's the kind of guy. He is a kind of guy.

1114
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 8: A lot of these players, but especially Raheem, had been

1115
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 8: bouncing around from lead from team to team. Really wasn't

1116
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 8: thought it was a running back until the four Niners

1117
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 8: just started plugging him in there, and he just never

1118
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 8: had a bad run. He just never went for less

1119
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 8: than five yards. So you might as well just keep

1120
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 8: giving it to him.

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Speaker 2: Somehow, the handoff into the arms of most hurt, He's

1122
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: gone touchdown San Francisco.

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Speaker 8: You know, just he still acts like a journeyman. He

1124
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 8: acts like a guy who was a special teams player,

1125
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Speaker 8: who isn't going to be a featured back while he's

1126
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 8: putting up some of the you know, mega numbers in

1127
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 8: the playoffs.

1128
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Speaker 3: They all treat.

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00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 8: Themselves and they look at the world like they're a

1130
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 8: bunch of journeymen. It's very, very refreshing, and I think

1131
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 8: it is a large part of how they've kind of

1132
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 8: coalesced together. They all nobody's bigger than anybody else in

1133
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 8: that locker room. Even the guy who goes for two

1134
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 8: hundred and whatever yards in the NFC Championship game. He's

1135
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 8: a surfer, right, he is a surfer.

1136
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: First of all.

1137
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: You got no wetsuit on, you're just straight trunks. You're

1138
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 3: running longboard, short board.

1139
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: You've been to Mavericks yet, Like, like, walk us through

1140
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: the surfing and when you started and how you got

1141
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: into that.

1142
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 5: You know, I started a surfer when I was about

1143
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 5: thirteen or fourteen, and you know, it's just been a

1144
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 5: big hit for me going out there on the waves

1145
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: and running the waves like you see in this video. Man,

1146
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: I'm just enjoying the atmosphere in the water, and I

1147
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: want to go to maverything.

1148
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 7: You know.

1149
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 8: Almost got a surfing contract from Billabong. He's Florida Waves

1150
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 8: out here in California, we're not sure what that is,

1151
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 8: but I guess they get waves out there, and he's

1152
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 8: certainly and he runs like a surfer.

1153
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Most in me back for you. He gets it, Samuel

1154
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: all out in front, touchdown.

1155
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 8: Kind of feels the crest. He kind of like glides

1156
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 8: towards to where the hole is and then catches the

1157
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 8: next wave and there he's gone. And guys don't expect

1158
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 8: him to get past him, and to get past him.

1159
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 8: It's not like a classic running back. He's not like

1160
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 8: Walter Payton juking juking, juking. He's kind of kind of

1161
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 8: filling the moment, feeling where it is. The wave hits

1162
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 8: him and he's gone. It's a very interesting kind of

1163
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 8: combination of a surfer running back.

1164
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: And do you think he's been enjoying his time in

1165
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: the spotlight here?

1166
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 8: I think he has. He understands what it's like not

1167
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 8: to be any part of this, to be a such

1168
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: an afterthought to you're cut by five teams. He understands that,

1169
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 8: you know, a world where he's not a star. He's

1170
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 8: lived in that world, so he's gonna enjoy it a

1171
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 8: little bit. Again, I don't think he's seeking out crazy fame.

1172
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 8: But these guys are all kind of enjoying it right now.

1173
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 8: They're all kind of like, this is pretty good.

1174
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: This is pretty good right now, And so Tim, most

1175
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 4: It's performance seemed to come out of nowhere. But did

1176
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: you foresee this?

1177
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 8: You know, I don't think you ever foresee a guy

1178
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 8: going for two hundred plus and then as a champions

1179
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 8: ghap unless he's you know, top top pick. He certainly wasn't,

1180
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 8: but he's been impressive. Every time he's carried the ball,

1181
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 8: he's been impressive. He's been a star special teamer. So

1182
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 8: you know he had some skills, but you saw something

1183
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 8: building there, and you sometimes running backs just come out

1184
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 8: of nowhere. This is the Shanahans are famous for that,

1185
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 8: pulling some guy out of the fifth round he runs

1186
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 8: for a thousand yards. Moster is in that category. They

1187
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 8: tapped into something with him. Kyle Shanahan recognized it though

1188
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 8: he's been good for most of the season.

1189
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: Well, Tim, thanks for joining us, and it'll be interesting

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00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: to see if Moster and the forty nine ers can

1191
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: pull it off on Sunday.

1192
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 8: All right, I'll see it. Talk you later.

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Speaker 2: H