WEBVTT - #803 Packers Unscripted: Showdown with H-town

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you Hear

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<v Speaker 1>from our studios at Lambellfield to preview Sunday's Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Packers home game against the Houston Texans. It will be

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<v Speaker 1>a noon Central Time kickoff. But before we dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans wes, there is a major piece of news

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to this Green Bay Packers team. Rookie kicker

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Narvison is out. Veteran kicker Brandon McManus is in.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have gone basically a season and a third now

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<v Speaker 1>with rookie kickers and it hasn't worked out, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now the move is to go to a veteran, a

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<v Speaker 1>proven guy, and Brandon McManus was Brian Gudukunk's choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Brand McManus is Brian Kunt's choice. Brian talked be I

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<v Speaker 2>Guess during practice on Wednesday about the decision to sign McManus,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly a lot of things go into that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>There were some off the field issues, allegations that they

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<v Speaker 2>have worked through. McManus said it as locker his new

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<v Speaker 2>locker on Wednesday, that that situation and the allegations around

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<v Speaker 2>it when it's during his time in Jacksonville has been

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<v Speaker 2>resolved in the Packers, both he and the Packers looking

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<v Speaker 2>to move forward here. One thing Guda Kunts did reiterate

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<v Speaker 2>though the Packers did their due diligence, they leaned on

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL and their investigation into the whole situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately felt like this is with where this team is at,

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<v Speaker 2>it was time to go back to the veteran route.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said this time and time again. It applies

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<v Speaker 2>typically more to the courtition, but when a team struggles

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<v Speaker 2>in the quarterback play is not where you want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be. If the quarterback's a veteran, it tends to

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<v Speaker 2>be that that's where they end up drafting somebody. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's a if it's a draft pick or a recent

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<v Speaker 2>young player, that's when typically they go the veteran round.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the other, and Green Bay is swinging

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<v Speaker 2>the pendulum back towards the veteran route. In McManus, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that is an eleventh year veteran out of Temple.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this was a really salient point that you

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<v Speaker 2>raised them. Maybe you're going to get into it here

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<v Speaker 2>in a second, but the fact of how efficient he's

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<v Speaker 2>been within fifty yards and I as much as you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have the big home run hitter, there's times

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<v Speaker 2>where you just got to get you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>the gotta have them kicks. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers, with where this team is ated for and

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<v Speaker 2>too and where they think they can get to this season,

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<v Speaker 2>they feel like McManus can be that guy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the reason I dove into the statistics a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit with McManus is because when the signing was

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<v Speaker 1>originally announced, the news was leaking out Tuesday night. Initially

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers made it official on Wednesday, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people pointing to well, Brandon McManus, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his career percentage on field goals is eighty one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent. That's roughly the same percentage that Anders Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>had last year as a rookie for the Packers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, Brandon McManus kicked for

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<v Speaker 1>nine years in Denver, and I just remember from watching

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<v Speaker 1>games and whatnot, the Broncos had him try a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of long kicks fifty five, fifty six fifty eight yards.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing that all the time. So I dug

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<v Speaker 1>into his statistics, and he's tried eighty five fifty plus

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<v Speaker 1>yard field goals in his career. I believe it's eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's eighty two. Anyway, it's a number in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>He's made more than half of them. He's made roughly

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five percent of those. But if you take out

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five percent on fifty plus, which isn't bad

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<v Speaker 1>by any means, I think that's still a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>clip for those difficult kicks. If you take out the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five percent on the fifty plus inside fifty yards

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, which is ten years nine with Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>one with Jacksonville inside fifty yards, this guy's been ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one percent for his entire career. We have watched Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Narvison miss five field goals six if you count the

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<v Speaker 1>one that was called back by the penalty in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>in six weeks. All of those misses were under fifty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched last year Anders Carlson miss five extra points

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<v Speaker 1>from thirty three yards away. Brandon McManus has missed nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three yard extra points in his entire career. Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>missed five of those last season. The upgrade here is obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's never any guarantee things are gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully for McManus, all of this off the field stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>as he said, the NFL investigation, the civil lawsuit, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been resolved. He's moving forward. He's looking at this as

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh start, a new opportunity. Is very thankful for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. The Packers are thankful that a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>his track record was available to be able to make

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<v Speaker 1>this change. Some people are wondering, Okay, well, how come

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<v Speaker 1>you know there was so much patience with Anders Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>last year, not so much patience this year with Braden Narvison.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to remember last year the Packers were three

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<v Speaker 1>and six after nine games. They were trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. They didn't get above five hundred until they

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<v Speaker 1>got to nine to eight, winning the last regular season

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<v Speaker 1>game just to get into the playoffs. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>four and two team that is in right now the

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<v Speaker 1>toughest division in football, and the Packers have expectations this

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<v Speaker 1>year that are way beyond what they had a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no wait in around here when this opportunity was

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<v Speaker 1>available and the off the field stuff was looked at

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers were comfortable with it. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>big time move to make to get a proven veteran

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<v Speaker 1>kicker who's been through it all, including kicking in a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, too, Michael, as much as you

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<v Speaker 2>know Anders and people asking that question, he started the

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<v Speaker 2>year making his first fifteen kicks last season, he built

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<v Speaker 2>up that basis that the Packers were kind of leaning

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<v Speaker 2>on to get through the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>He had shown he could do it over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of a number of weeks and then it just started

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<v Speaker 1>to unravel and it never got put back together.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you flip it, if Anders starts that way,

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<v Speaker 2>you wonder how much patience you're going to have then.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as how he finished the season very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Point so in terms of McManus and one other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so you were this was like you and me, Pippin

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<v Speaker 2>and Jordan here when you came up with all these

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<v Speaker 2>statistics on McManus. I found it interesting diving into Mason

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<v Speaker 2>Crosby statistics because I'd never really thought about it that

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<v Speaker 2>way as far as what is a guy's efficiency within

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<v Speaker 2>fifty yards. Mason's was eighty six percent within fifty and

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the same fifty five percent beyond fifty as McManus.

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<v Speaker 2>So thirty three years old, it's not been kicking for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. He had the one year with Jacksonville, was

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<v Speaker 2>working out on his own down in Florida. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to see how it all fits together. But for the

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay Packers at four and two, with what it

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<v Speaker 2>looks to be, there is not going to be much

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<v Speaker 2>wiggle room within the NFC North Division. This was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the big glaring weaknesses on this team and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>first ranked in field goal efficiency this season. The Jets

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<v Speaker 2>only the team behind them right now, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that was because of what happened on Monday night

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<v Speaker 2>with Greg Zuerlin. This is their feeling that, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a guy again, feeling comfortable with the human,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling comfortable with the person. We're going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that has done this at a high level for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time and is going to have already developed

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<v Speaker 2>some of that scar tissue that unfortunately, you know, Brady

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<v Speaker 2>Narvison on the field is kind of working through right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite having a really solid leg yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Well, this is quite the challenge coming into lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field this weekend that Houston Texans. They are five to one,

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<v Speaker 1>their only loss to the undefeated Minnesota Vikings, a blowout

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<v Speaker 1>loss as it turned out in Minneapolis. I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>final score was thirty four to seven. When you look

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<v Speaker 1>at looking through the play by play of that game

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at the highlights, it was just a game

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<v Speaker 1>that started poorly for Houston and they were never able

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<v Speaker 1>to dig themselves out of way. It started with an

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<v Speaker 1>interception and the Vikings scored right away, then they got

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<v Speaker 1>another touchdown. It was fourteen to nothing almost before you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those Minnesota fans were in their seats and so

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<v Speaker 1>but that is Houston's only lost this season. They bring

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<v Speaker 1>in the reigning offensive Rookie of the Year from last

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<v Speaker 1>year and quarterback c J. Stroud, the reigning defensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year from last year in will Anderson. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an immensely talented team and head coach Demiko Ryans

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<v Speaker 1>a former defensive Rookie of the Year himself for the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Texans. Demiko Ryans as the head coach. Along with

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<v Speaker 1>this personnel, they've changed the fortunes of that franchise very

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. And this is a team was a surprise

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<v Speaker 1>entry in the playoffs last year, much like the Packers were,

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<v Speaker 1>and a team with a lot of high hopes and

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<v Speaker 1>expectations here and off to a five and one start.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you talk about rebuilding a franchise and bringing

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<v Speaker 2>them back up from just the absolute sediment of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Football League to a contender, in the quick turnaround

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<v Speaker 2>that they've made, you can't say enough about the coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say enough about these players. But ultimately it

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<v Speaker 2>comes back to hitting on the quarterback, and they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They had CJ. Stroud fall in their lap at number two,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's been just everything and more you could have

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<v Speaker 2>ever asked for in a young, developing quarterback, and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the year right now, it all signs point towards this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a player in this league for

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<v Speaker 2>years to come, no doubt, and a guy that brings

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<v Speaker 2>you a lot of versatility as well. I know we

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<v Speaker 2>usually break this down with offensive and defensive. It I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that in a minute, but I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>this an insider indux and I have to say this

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<v Speaker 2>again because I really feel like Will Anderson doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>the proper credit because of Stroud being drafted at number two.

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<v Speaker 2>What a pragmatic decision for the Texans making a sizable investment,

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<v Speaker 2>got their quarterback, but then decided, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to get our anchor of our defense for years

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<v Speaker 2>to come. They invest three first round picks and some

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<v Speaker 2>other picks as well into this thing, and they get

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<v Speaker 2>Will Anderson, who looks like as much of a game

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<v Speaker 2>changer as it's been with Stroud on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. Anderson's providing that on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 2>at the ball right now. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>pass rushers, you look at quarterbacks, you can bring up

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<v Speaker 2>all the window dressing and all the other players that

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<v Speaker 2>factor into that. But that's how you very quickly change

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<v Speaker 2>the fortunes of an offense and in a defense, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that can handle your offense and can lead your team,

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<v Speaker 2>and defensively, a guy that is going to be absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>ripped through the competition. Packers have a very significant challenge

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<v Speaker 2>on their hands on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, sticking with Anderson, he is the current AFC

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive Player of the Week. He's coming off of a

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<v Speaker 1>three SAT game against the New England Patriots offensive line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to that too, because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers offensive line is coming off of maybe its best

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<v Speaker 1>game of the season against the Arizona Cardinals. That's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that makes this matchup so intriguing as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the pass rush goes. The Tech since have Will Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel Hunter, the former Minnesota Viking. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>they do not have Mario Edwards. He has now been suspended.

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<v Speaker 1>But all you have to do is as far as

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<v Speaker 1>what this defense is capable of is look at the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics from Houston's victory, a down to the wire walk

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<v Speaker 1>off long field goal victory over the Buffalo Bills from

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. Josh Allen, Buffalo quarterback, no

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<v Speaker 1>slouch of a quarterback. Last I checked, he was nine

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty passing against that Houston defense. They made life really,

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult for Josh Allen in that game. And this

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings certainly have a good defense. They've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>They've been doing some pretty impressive things. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>Houston defense is probably the best one the Packers will

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<v Speaker 1>have faced so far this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Myers basically said the same exact thing at his

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<v Speaker 2>locker on Wednesdays, especially their defensive front. No disrespect to

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<v Speaker 2>the secondary, but as far as what Meyers is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be looking at, what this Packers offensive line is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be looking at. And while they do lose

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<v Speaker 2>Mario Edwards, they're getting back Denico Autry, who is coming

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<v Speaker 2>off a career year last year with Tennessee this suspension,

0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.719
<v Speaker 2>he's missed these first few you know, first what five

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<v Speaker 2>six games, But this is the guy the Packers are

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<v Speaker 2>well familiar with. They almost signed him as an undrafted

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<v Speaker 2>free agent when he came out of college back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen or whatever it was. I believe it was

0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a medical issue that kind of negated that, but the

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<v Speaker 2>dude has been a consistent guy. Reminds me a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of like Lawrence Guy in terms of it took some

0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.040
<v Speaker 2>time for him to develop, but I mean, coming off

0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.240
<v Speaker 2>career high in sacks last year, what he brings to

0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.240
<v Speaker 2>that rotation. It's a lot of things to worry themselves with.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, the Packers have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a way forward. And another thing that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to help them is the fact that this game is

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<v Speaker 2>taking place at Lambeau field. It sounds like it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nice day at Lambeo. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to probably have the benefit of some fall

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<v Speaker 2>conditions like you did last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like it could hit seventy degrees in

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<v Speaker 1>mid October in Green Bay, which is rather unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather unusual. But the fact is is, if this thing's

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<v Speaker 2>at energy that I think Houston, it just allows them

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<v Speaker 2>to play even more up tempo. Especially that defense with

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<v Speaker 2>how they get off the ball, is gonn be a

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<v Speaker 2>real challenge. The other aspect I have to mention too,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know we've kind of blurred the lines here

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<v Speaker 2>between offense and defense. Nico Collins is not available either

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<v Speaker 2>with the hamstring injury. That was the next topic. I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to my goodness to start that he was

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<v Speaker 2>off to Now. They still have Stefan Diggs, they still

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<v Speaker 2>have Tank, they still have all these guys, Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 2>his back, There's a lot of weapons still on that offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nico Collins has been a game changer for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was already up over five hundred receiving

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<v Speaker 2>yards on the season. I mean, just off to just

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<v Speaker 2>a torrid paced start to this year and the hamstring

0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.360
<v Speaker 2>injury keeping him out now landed him, I think on

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<v Speaker 2>injury reserves.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as far as individual players, I think Nico

0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Collins has the most explosive pass receptions seventeen. I knew that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's and that's now with missing a game

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<v Speaker 1>last week and having exited the previous game early because

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<v Speaker 1>of that hamstring. But you said it's Stefan Diggs, Tank Dell.

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<v Speaker 1>They've still got some some receivers that are legitimate weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a big key to this game just because

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<v Speaker 1>of how Houston's offense looked last week when Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the backfield. Mixon missed a few games due

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to injury, including the Vikings game, which was the one

0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.440
<v Speaker 1>game that that the Texans did lose, but boy he

0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:28.560
<v Speaker 1>came back. And this this guy, this guy is a powerful,

0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:33.440
<v Speaker 1>powerful running back and uh and he really provides. He

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<v Speaker 1>provides the balance in the offense for CJ. Stroud, much

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way that the Packers have been looking

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<v Speaker 1>and working toward the balance with with Josh Jacobs a

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<v Speaker 1>power back, and then and a guy like Emmanuel Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>behind him to balance things out for Jordan Love Joe

0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Mixon does that for C. J. Stroud and and the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are going to have their hands full with this

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<v Speaker 1>running back.

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<v Speaker 2>They really are a mix. And I was intimating this

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<v Speaker 2>in the inbox. I mean they are a different offense

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at now again, they've played different caliber competition.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to put the Colts and the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>on the same pedestal as the other three opponents they've had,

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<v Speaker 2>but you look at the points, you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>production across the board, it's been better when Nixon has

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<v Speaker 2>been out there. Their only lost came the first game

0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.760
<v Speaker 2>they were without him, and they had to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>find another way and grind out some victories there to

0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.480
<v Speaker 2>keep things moving in the right direction. That has been

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<v Speaker 2>a bit, you know, as much as we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Jacobs here or Aaron Jones in Minnesota, them bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in Joe Mixon has really kind of filled one of

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<v Speaker 2>those very few holes on their offense and gives them

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<v Speaker 2>a capable every down belcow back to kind of work

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<v Speaker 2>off of the other one thing too, And maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>can get into this too at the Keys to victory

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<v Speaker 2>that that stands out to me when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>their defense top five defense in a lot of different

0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 2>categories past they only have five interceptions, So Xavier McKinney

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<v Speaker 2>has as many interceptions as the Houston Texans. Houston Texas

0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 2>have thirty passes defense this year, Packers have twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with their nine, I mean they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had interceptions count as passed defense. So with the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty six, that's including the team total of interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's like they just they bat down balls,

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.280
<v Speaker 2>they get after it, they're aggressive in that whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know. The tree has gone so far now

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even tell you these branches in terms of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what Demiico's doing compared to what Robert salid did,

0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.800
<v Speaker 2>compared to what you know, Vic Fangio did. Right, But

0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.960
<v Speaker 2>this tree that that sort of sprouted from San Francisco

0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and has taken this league by storm. Everybody's had their

0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.960
<v Speaker 2>own little wrinkles to it. And the Houston Texans, again,

0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that was the hallmark even before CJ. Stroud became the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive rookie of the year, the way that defense turned

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<v Speaker 2>things around last year. It's again it's a formidable task.

0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.040
<v Speaker 2>The Packers are going to be poised to try to

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<v Speaker 2>take down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we've touched on a few things already as

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<v Speaker 1>far as as far as the keys to victory, is

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<v Speaker 1>there something for you that rises to the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the list in order for the Packers to leave lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field on with a five and two record.

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<v Speaker 2>So Nico Collins excusing himself from this game is one

0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.920
<v Speaker 2>thing that is going to help. I mean, five hundred

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and sixty seven receiving yards and four games or whatever

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.439
<v Speaker 2>cannot be wrong. Again, Stefan Diggs is the guy the

0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Packers are well familiar with. I'm not going to disrespect

0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 2>anything that CJ. Stroud is doing. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>disrespect anything that that passing game is going is doing.

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay has to stop the run. When you look

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<v Speaker 2>at how this defense has turned things around, Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very attractive. It's very awesome how many interceptions they have

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<v Speaker 2>and the takeaway number seventeen four more takeaways than any

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.840
<v Speaker 2>other team right now, the NFL, what have you. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fact is that Green Bay has also been much

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<v Speaker 2>better against the run, with the exception of really one

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.080
<v Speaker 2>leaking out last week against the Cardinals, they've really contained

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<v Speaker 2>the explosives there in this little turnaround that they've had

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<v Speaker 2>since Jordan Love got back under center. If you can

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<v Speaker 2>contain Joe Mixon, I think that sets you up to

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<v Speaker 2>better defend what Houston is going to throw at you

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.960
<v Speaker 2>schematically down the field. It's not easy. Mixon is the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that will grind you out. He's that sake Que Barkley,

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<v Speaker 2>the type. Okay, we'll see what the first half looks

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.400
<v Speaker 2>like and then suddenly it's one hundred and twenty rushing

0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.640
<v Speaker 2>yards in the fourth quarter and you don't know what happened, right,

0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.920
<v Speaker 2>But that is the basis for everything and how it starts. Also,

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 2>they traded Cam Acres too now, so I guess Damian

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce would probably be the next guy up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, cam Akers the Minnesota Vikings traded for

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<v Speaker 1>him again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think Acres now on his fourth tour, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's back, he's back in Minnesota. An UNANSWERU. The

0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Vikings have to some concerns about Aaron Jones injury and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build up some more depth there.

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<v Speaker 2>But Damian Pierce being back is a big deal. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's another aspect of this thing that could really affect

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<v Speaker 2>this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm one hundred percent with you on on

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<v Speaker 1>stopping the run in this game, because nothing will be

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<v Speaker 1>harder about stopping c. J. Stroud than if Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>gets going. And that running game for the Texans is

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.680
<v Speaker 1>controlling the line of scrimmage. It's just gonna make it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make your life miserable defensively and h and that

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<v Speaker 1>is a big challenge. The other one, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>one for me that jumps out is really about offensively

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>for the Packers is to is to keep doing what

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they're doing and really build on what we saw last week. Now,

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Houston's defense is much much better than Arizona, so this

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is a totally different ballgame in that regard. But I'm

0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about the balance that the Packers had between the

0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.879
<v Speaker 1>passing game and the running game and all of the

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.119
<v Speaker 1>variety that is part of the running game, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs, the wide receivers on the end to rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stretching the defense laterally. And in line with

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<v Speaker 1>that is also the offensive line, which I thought played

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<v Speaker 1>its best game of the season collectively against the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive line rising to the challenge of a Houston

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive front that is probably as good as it gets

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in the league right now, Jordan Morgan got back into

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.359
<v Speaker 1>action from his shoulder injury. That rotation with Sean Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>at right guard seems to be working. The Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>getting production there. It looks like Josh Myers at center

0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 1>no worse for wear from, you know, coming out of

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the last game with an injury, but then going back

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.639
<v Speaker 1>in he seems to be okay. He is, he is practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen, uh, We've seen Rashid Walker at left tackle

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<v Speaker 1>the pack The penalties have settled down. He's really played

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<v Speaker 1>some good football the last couple of weeks and looking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more like the Rashid Walker from the stretch

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<v Speaker 1>run last year when he really took over that left

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 1>tackle position and they ditched the rotation with yash Niemen

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and said, okay, Rashid, like that's your job. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy we're seeing now at left tackle. We all know

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what Elton Jenkins is at left guard, and and Zach Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about before, you would never know that

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<v Speaker 1>this guy missed almost basically the bulk of the offseason

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>program and was very limited throughout training camp before the

0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>regular season started. Zach tom is playing like a Pro

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Bowl level right tack here very quietly, not getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention for it, and he doesn't draw attention

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to himself and all that kind of stuff. This Packer's

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive line is coming together. We're seeing it come together

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>faster earlier in the season than we did last year

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>with some of the injuries and shuffling around and everything

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. Last week needs to be just a building

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 1>block though, for that group. With what you've got coming

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<v Speaker 1>in this week, I think I think this game falls

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on those guys up front for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packer, I agree, and it will be a huge

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for the guys on the edge. I mean, those

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 2>are two big dudes, two talented, explosive pass rushers. They're

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to slow down. Even though Dannil Hunter only

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>has two and a half sacks, he does have seven

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 2>quarterback hits already this year. This is a big piece

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and a big puzzle for this offensive line to figure out.

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 2>What you have to feel good about, though, is when

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you look at someone like Zach Tom who again another

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<v Speaker 2>fourth round pick, Day three guy that has come in

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.879
<v Speaker 2>from everyone, does it different. Rashid Walker did it very different,

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<v Speaker 2>but it came in day one and looked like he

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>belonged so much, reminding you of of Elton Jenkins. But

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>then green Bay really had to just sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>figure out, Okay, so where do we want this guy

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 2>to play? Because to this day, I still think no

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.639
<v Speaker 2>matter what position he's at, the guy can perform at

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<v Speaker 2>a pro bowl level. He can perform it on all

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 2>pro level. Yeah. And he's so freaking consistent at a

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<v Speaker 2>position which is very difficult to be consistent at, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when you miss your half your off season program with

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<v Speaker 2>as an offensive lineman with a peck injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a surgically repaired PECTORUMO.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for him to be doing what he's doing again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a supreme test. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be something where they're gonna have to play four quarters

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and carry it out beginning, middle, and end. But for

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 2>what green Bay was able to find in that twenty

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty three NFL Draft, twenty twenty two when he NFL

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Draft NFL Draft, the fact that they have two I

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 2>guess you'd call it two and a half starters, you know,

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 2>with Sean Ryan in that rotation. Yeah, it's impressive what

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Base been managing to do with it, basically all coming

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<v Speaker 2>on day three.

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have half an eye on while watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and the Texans, the Detroit Lions at Minnesota against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. Detroit is four and one, the Vikings are

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<v Speaker 1>five and zero. We're being asked in insider inbox like

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<v Speaker 1>as Packers fans, like, you know, who are you supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to root for here? My initial answer was, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them's got to lose, which is a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing because they're both aheady in the standings. They both

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<v Speaker 1>can't win this week, so that's a But you got

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<v Speaker 1>a you got any kind of a gut feeling if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Packers fan on just who you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>root for here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so one first and foremosts I could not possibly

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<v Speaker 2>care less. That was what I hate answering that way

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<v Speaker 2>when people ask me those questions at inbox, because then

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm being flippant, but I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what I will say. Though. The more I marinated,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I thought about it, the more I sat there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I looked into my crystal ball

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<v Speaker 2>and said, what should happen in this matchup? I think

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<v Speaker 2>I want the Detroit Lions to win. Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for the Minnesota Vikings. For as many adverse

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<v Speaker 2>wins as they got, as much rallying as they've done,

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<v Speaker 2>you need that first arrow to hit in the siege, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just they they're five and oh they're feeling themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Detroit Lions could go into US Bank Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>and do what they did to the Dallas Cowboys, suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>you start to get some questions in your mind. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying you got to beat them forty seven to nine, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you say, everybody knew the Detroit Lions were

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a very talented juggernaut this year. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of what they did last season. Nobody expected this

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<v Speaker 2>out of Minnesota. My question is, let's say there is

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<v Speaker 2>a loss there, then how does Minnesota bounce back from it? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>The contrast says the Packers have to play the Lions

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<v Speaker 2>in two weeks anyway, do you want them having so

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<v Speaker 2>much momentum? I don't know, but I do think there

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<v Speaker 2>is something to be said for potentially the Lions taking

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<v Speaker 2>that zero.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see one suggestion I think I'm actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to print it in Friday Mornings inside our Inbox column

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<v Speaker 1>from a reader, and I think it's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it if you're trying to really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make an objective decision on this game. From a Packers

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<v Speaker 1>fan perspective, it's that the Packers still have two games

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<v Speaker 1>left with the Lions. They only have one left with

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, so that in that circumstance, it probably is

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<v Speaker 1>better for the Vikings to take that first loss, because

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<v Speaker 1>because the Packers don't have as many opportunities to tag

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<v Speaker 1>more losses on the Vikings themselves, whereas they do have

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<v Speaker 1>two games left with the Lions. I thought I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was a worthwhile perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough to catch the front runner if they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to pull back a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit, right, Yeah, And from an injury this this

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<v Speaker 1>game is really interesting also from an injury perspective, because

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<v Speaker 1>now it's possible Aaron Jones is going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and play for Minnesota. That's still very

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<v Speaker 1>much in question though, and we saw when he exited

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<v Speaker 1>the game in London against the Jets, the Vikings offense

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of turtled up and couldn't do much without

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones. So they really really want him back. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned then, they made the trade for Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Akers for depth a running back because they obviously have

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<v Speaker 1>concerns there. And this will be the first game for

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions without Aiden Hutchinson, who suffered that that horrific

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<v Speaker 1>broken leg you know, had to be rushed off for

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<v Speaker 1>emergency surgery in Dallas. He's out for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and you know that Lion's defense now has

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<v Speaker 1>to has to deal with not having not only the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional leader and all that, but the guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certainly already in the discussion for possibly NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive Player of the Year. And that's something that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions have to react to. One other game obviously that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will be watching on Sunday, the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl rematch Kansas City chiefs San Francisco forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers and the Niners need to win in order to

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<v Speaker 1>not be below five hundred after seven games, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to believe. Kansas City has taken on

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<v Speaker 1>all comers. They haven't looked the prettiest in getting to

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<v Speaker 1>five and zero. But Patrick Mahomes is proving that he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a find a way to win guy with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever the circumstances, whatever the stakes. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who finds a way. He's going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be working to find a way in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco on late Sunday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminds me a lot of like the twenty fifteeners a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I mean, obviously they didn't lose George, well

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<v Speaker 2>actually they did, they lost for she Rice, but uh

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<v Speaker 2>like they're just like they're winning, and they're just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, Okay, how long is this going to go for? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>How long is there gonna be a hiccup there at

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<v Speaker 2>some point? Yeah? Uh, San Francisco is in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it dire straits. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're feeling it right now. I mean, when your kicker

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<v Speaker 2>gets hurt, you know, things are not going well for

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<v Speaker 2>you right now, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And well when you're when your kicker gets hurt, and

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<v Speaker 1>then your backup kicker gets hurt, yeah, and now you're

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<v Speaker 1>possibly going to a third kicker might end up being

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Carls. I mean they signed him to the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad this week because of this injury situation at kicker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're h and at the same time, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure out where they're at offensively without

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<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey, who you know, has his absence now has

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<v Speaker 1>been extended quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Interesting, he was questionable in that week one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, but yeah no, and then Jordan Mason's gotten

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<v Speaker 2>banged up now too. Yeah. George Kittle has been fighting

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<v Speaker 2>through some stuff. They're in a tough spot right now

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<v Speaker 2>seeing where all that goes. May I throw on one

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<v Speaker 2>more game for you, talking about Russell Wilson potentially making

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<v Speaker 2>his twenty twenty four season debut after in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought justin Fields played really really well. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the Steelers fore and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign too, justin fields, I think has one interception this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Your foreign you're foreign to your foreign two and you're

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<v Speaker 1>and you're actually thinking of changing quarterbacks here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I honestly don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are getting Aaron Rodgers versus Russell Wilson. One

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<v Speaker 2>is wearing a Jets uniform, one's wearing a Steelers uniform. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean would have thunk it right. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>threw this out there on Twitter. Uh. I forget who

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<v Speaker 2>it was originally. Maybe it was Perry Goldstein that was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that originally was talking about the Jets being

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<v Speaker 2>in primetime Again, do you think they made the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>made the Jets schedule and then after that just did

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the leading the way that this has

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<v Speaker 2>worked out, they're either they've either been in primetime or

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<v Speaker 2>they're in London.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's like that's just like the way of the

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<v Speaker 2>way of it this year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and now and it's like now they have a

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach, they have a new wide receiver they

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<v Speaker 1>brought in via trade from the Raiders, and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta go, there's no time left. Yeah, we gotta leave.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so sick of double Monday night football already too.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we can save that for an off

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<v Speaker 2>season unscripted potentially if we need to kill some time.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point, I saw another double header or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call these things, because they're not even

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<v Speaker 2>double headers. They're like half a header's where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they had there's some like overlap between the two games.

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<v Speaker 2>He just give me one Monday night game, maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday night game. If we gotta do Thursday, we'll do Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick of it that we're gonna We're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>wes Hodkowitz Pet Peeves offseason episode.

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<v Speaker 2>This this coming. We got a lot of problem with

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<v Speaker 2>your people.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta start making I gotta start making some notes.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do have to go. Will.

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<v Speaker 1>I will leave you with this, however, The home of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five NFL Draft is right here in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay April twenty four through April twenty six, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Visit green Bay dot com slash Draft twenty

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming, Michael. It is getting closer.

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<v Speaker 1>With that. We'll call it a wrap on this edition

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