1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you Hear 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: from our studios at Lambellfield to preview Sunday's Green Bay 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Packers home game against the Houston Texans. It will be 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: a noon Central Time kickoff. But before we dive into 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: the Texans wes, there is a major piece of news 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: with regard to this Green Bay Packers team. Rookie kicker 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Narvison is out. Veteran kicker Brandon McManus is in. 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Packers have gone basically a season and a third now 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: with rookie kickers and it hasn't worked out, and so 12 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: now the move is to go to a veteran, a 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: proven guy, and Brandon McManus was Brian Gudukunk's choice. 14 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: Brand McManus is Brian Kunt's choice. Brian talked be I 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: Guess during practice on Wednesday about the decision to sign McManus, 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: and certainly a lot of things go into that decision. 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: There were some off the field issues, allegations that they 18 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: have worked through. McManus said it as locker his new 19 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: locker on Wednesday, that that situation and the allegations around 20 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: it when it's during his time in Jacksonville has been 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: resolved in the Packers, both he and the Packers looking 22 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: to move forward here. One thing Guda Kunts did reiterate 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: though the Packers did their due diligence, they leaned on 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: the NFL and their investigation into the whole situation, and 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: ultimately felt like this is with where this team is at, 26 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: it was time to go back to the veteran route. 27 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: And I've said this time and time again. It applies 28 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: typically more to the courtition, but when a team struggles 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: in the quarterback play is not where you want it 30 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: to be. If the quarterback's a veteran, it tends to 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: be that that's where they end up drafting somebody. If 32 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: it's a if it's a draft pick or a recent 33 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: young player, that's when typically they go the veteran round. 34 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: It's one of the other, and Green Bay is swinging 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: the pendulum back towards the veteran route. In McManus, a 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: guy that is an eleventh year veteran out of Temple. 37 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: I thought this was a really salient point that you 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: raised them. Maybe you're going to get into it here 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: in a second, but the fact of how efficient he's 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: been within fifty yards and I as much as you 41 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: want to have the big home run hitter, there's times 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: where you just got to get you have to get 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: the gotta have them kicks. And I think that's what 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: the Packers, with where this team is ated for and 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: too and where they think they can get to this season, 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: they feel like McManus can be that guy. Yeah. 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: I mean the reason I dove into the statistics a 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: little bit with McManus is because when the signing was 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: originally announced, the news was leaking out Tuesday night. Initially 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the Packers made it official on Wednesday, I saw a 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of people pointing to well, Brandon McManus, you know, 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: his career percentage on field goals is eighty one point 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: eight percent. That's roughly the same percentage that Anders Carlson 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: had last year as a rookie for the Packers. And 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, Brandon McManus kicked for 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: nine years in Denver, and I just remember from watching 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: games and whatnot, the Broncos had him try a bunch 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: of long kicks fifty five, fifty six fifty eight yards. 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: He was doing that all the time. So I dug 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: into his statistics, and he's tried eighty five fifty plus 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: yard field goals in his career. I believe it's eighty five. 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's eighty two. Anyway, it's a number in the eighties. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: He's made more than half of them. He's made roughly 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of those. But if you take out 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the fifty five percent on fifty plus, which isn't bad 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: by any means, I think that's still a pretty good 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: clip for those difficult kicks. If you take out the 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: fifty five percent on the fifty plus inside fifty yards 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: in his career, which is ten years nine with Denver, 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: one with Jacksonville inside fifty yards, this guy's been ninety 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: one percent for his entire career. We have watched Brandon 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Narvison miss five field goals six if you count the 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: one that was called back by the penalty in Tennessee 74 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: in six weeks. All of those misses were under fifty yards. 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: We watched last year Anders Carlson miss five extra points 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: from thirty three yards away. Brandon McManus has missed nine 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: thirty three yard extra points in his entire career. Carlson 78 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: missed five of those last season. The upgrade here is obvious. 79 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Now there's never any guarantee things are gonna work out. 80 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully for McManus, all of this off the field stuff, 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: as he said, the NFL investigation, the civil lawsuit, it's 82 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: been resolved. He's moving forward. He's looking at this as 83 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: a fresh start, a new opportunity. Is very thankful for 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: the Packers. The Packers are thankful that a guy with 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: his track record was available to be able to make 86 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: this change. Some people are wondering, Okay, well, how come 87 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: you know there was so much patience with Anders Carlson 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: last year, not so much patience this year with Braden Narvison. 89 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: You have to remember last year the Packers were three 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: and six after nine games. They were trying to figure 91 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: it out. They didn't get above five hundred until they 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: got to nine to eight, winning the last regular season 93 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: game just to get into the playoffs. This is a 94 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: four and two team that is in right now the 95 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: toughest division in football, and the Packers have expectations this 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: year that are way beyond what they had a year ago. 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: There's no wait in around here when this opportunity was 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: available and the off the field stuff was looked at 99 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: and the Packers were comfortable with it. This is a 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: big time move to make to get a proven veteran 101 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: kicker who's been through it all, including kicking in a 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 103 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: And keep in mind, too, Michael, as much as you 104 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: know Anders and people asking that question, he started the 105 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: year making his first fifteen kicks last season, he built 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: up that basis that the Packers were kind of leaning 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: on to get through the rest of the year. 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: He had shown he could do it over the course 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: of a number of weeks and then it just started 110 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: to unravel and it never got put back together. 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: And if you flip it, if Anders starts that way, 112 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: you wonder how much patience you're going to have then. 113 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: As far as how he finished the season very good. 114 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: Point so in terms of McManus and one other thing, 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: so you were this was like you and me, Pippin 116 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: and Jordan here when you came up with all these 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: statistics on McManus. I found it interesting diving into Mason 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: Crosby statistics because I'd never really thought about it that 119 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: way as far as what is a guy's efficiency within 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: fifty yards. Mason's was eighty six percent within fifty and 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: exactly the same fifty five percent beyond fifty as McManus. 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: So thirty three years old, it's not been kicking for 123 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: a while. He had the one year with Jacksonville, was 124 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: working out on his own down in Florida. We'll have 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: to see how it all fits together. But for the 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers at four and two, with what it 127 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: looks to be, there is not going to be much 128 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: wiggle room within the NFC North Division. This was one 129 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: of the big glaring weaknesses on this team and thirty 130 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: first ranked in field goal efficiency this season. The Jets 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: only the team behind them right now, and a lot 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: of that was because of what happened on Monday night 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: with Greg Zuerlin. This is their feeling that, Okay, we're 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: going to get a guy again, feeling comfortable with the human, 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: feeling comfortable with the person. We're going to get a 136 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: guy that has done this at a high level for 137 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: a long time and is going to have already developed 138 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: some of that scar tissue that unfortunately, you know, Brady 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: Narvison on the field is kind of working through right now. 140 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Despite having a really solid leg yeah. 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, this is quite the challenge coming into lambeau 142 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Field this weekend that Houston Texans. They are five to one, 143 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: their only loss to the undefeated Minnesota Vikings, a blowout 144 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: loss as it turned out in Minneapolis. I believe the 145 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: final score was thirty four to seven. When you look 146 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: at looking through the play by play of that game 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: and looking at the highlights, it was just a game 148 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that started poorly for Houston and they were never able 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: to dig themselves out of way. It started with an 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: interception and the Vikings scored right away, then they got 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: another touchdown. It was fourteen to nothing almost before you know, 152 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: all those Minnesota fans were in their seats and so 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: but that is Houston's only lost this season. They bring 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: in the reigning offensive Rookie of the Year from last 155 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: year and quarterback c J. Stroud, the reigning defensive Rookie 156 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: of the Year from last year in will Anderson. This 157 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: is an immensely talented team and head coach Demiko Ryans 158 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: a former defensive Rookie of the Year himself for the 159 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Demiko Ryans as the head coach. Along with 160 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: this personnel, they've changed the fortunes of that franchise very 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: very quickly. And this is a team was a surprise 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: entry in the playoffs last year, much like the Packers were, 163 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: and a team with a lot of high hopes and 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: expectations here and off to a five and one start. 165 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: And when you talk about rebuilding a franchise and bringing 166 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: them back up from just the absolute sediment of the 167 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: National Football League to a contender, in the quick turnaround 168 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: that they've made, you can't say enough about the coaching staff, 169 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: you can't say enough about these players. But ultimately it 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: comes back to hitting on the quarterback, and they did. 171 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: They had CJ. Stroud fall in their lap at number two, 172 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: and he's been just everything and more you could have 173 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: ever asked for in a young, developing quarterback, and certainly 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: the year right now, it all signs point towards this 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: is going to be a player in this league for 176 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: years to come, no doubt, and a guy that brings 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: you a lot of versatility as well. I know we 178 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: usually break this down with offensive and defensive. It I'm 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: going to do that in a minute, but I wrote 180 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: this an insider indux and I have to say this 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: again because I really feel like Will Anderson doesn't get 182 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: the proper credit because of Stroud being drafted at number two. 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: What a pragmatic decision for the Texans making a sizable investment, 184 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: got their quarterback, but then decided, you know what, we 185 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: want to get our anchor of our defense for years 186 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: to come. They invest three first round picks and some 187 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: other picks as well into this thing, and they get 188 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: Will Anderson, who looks like as much of a game 189 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: changer as it's been with Stroud on the offensive side 190 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: of the ball. Anderson's providing that on the defensive side 191 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: at the ball right now. And if you look at 192 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: pass rushers, you look at quarterbacks, you can bring up 193 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 2: all the window dressing and all the other players that 194 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: factor into that. But that's how you very quickly change 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: the fortunes of an offense and in a defense, a 196 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: guy that can handle your offense and can lead your team, 197 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: and defensively, a guy that is going to be absolutely 198 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: ripped through the competition. Packers have a very significant challenge 199 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: on their hands on Sunday. 200 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, sticking with Anderson, he is the current AFC 201 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week. He's coming off of a 202 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: three SAT game against the New England Patriots offensive line. Yeah, 203 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that too, because I think the 204 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Packers offensive line is coming off of maybe its best 205 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: game of the season against the Arizona Cardinals. That's another 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: thing that makes this matchup so intriguing as far as 207 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: the pass rush goes. The Tech since have Will Anderson 208 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: and Daniel Hunter, the former Minnesota Viking. On the other side, 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: they do not have Mario Edwards. He has now been suspended. 210 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: But all you have to do is as far as 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: what this defense is capable of is look at the 212 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: statistics from Houston's victory, a down to the wire walk 213 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: off long field goal victory over the Buffalo Bills from 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Josh Allen, Buffalo quarterback, no 215 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: slouch of a quarterback. Last I checked, he was nine 216 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: of thirty passing against that Houston defense. They made life really, 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: really difficult for Josh Allen in that game. And this 218 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings certainly have a good defense. They've been doing 219 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: They've been doing some pretty impressive things. I think this 220 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Houston defense is probably the best one the Packers will 221 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: have faced so far this year. 222 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Josh Myers basically said the same exact thing at his 223 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: locker on Wednesdays, especially their defensive front. No disrespect to 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: the secondary, but as far as what Meyers is going 225 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: to be looking at, what this Packers offensive line is 226 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: going to be looking at. And while they do lose 227 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: Mario Edwards, they're getting back Denico Autry, who is coming 228 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: off a career year last year with Tennessee this suspension, 229 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: he's missed these first few you know, first what five 230 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: six games, But this is the guy the Packers are 231 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: well familiar with. They almost signed him as an undrafted 232 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: free agent when he came out of college back in 233 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen or whatever it was. I believe it was 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: a medical issue that kind of negated that, but the 235 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: dude has been a consistent guy. Reminds me a lot 236 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: of like Lawrence Guy in terms of it took some 237 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: time for him to develop, but I mean, coming off 238 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: career high in sacks last year, what he brings to 239 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that rotation. It's a lot of things to worry themselves with. 240 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the Packers have 241 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: to find a way forward. And another thing that's going 242 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: to help them is the fact that this game is 243 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: taking place at Lambeau field. It sounds like it's going 244 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: to be a nice day at Lambeo. We're not going 245 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: to have to probably have the benefit of some fall 246 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: conditions like you did last week. 247 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it could hit seventy degrees in 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: mid October in Green Bay, which is rather unusual. 249 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: Rather unusual. But the fact is is, if this thing's 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: at energy that I think Houston, it just allows them 251 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: to play even more up tempo. Especially that defense with 252 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: how they get off the ball, is gonn be a 253 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: real challenge. The other aspect I have to mention too, 254 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: and I know we've kind of blurred the lines here 255 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: between offense and defense. Nico Collins is not available either 256 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: with the hamstring injury. That was the next topic. I 257 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: was going to my goodness to start that he was 258 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: off to Now. They still have Stefan Diggs, they still 259 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: have Tank, they still have all these guys, Joe Mixon 260 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: his back, There's a lot of weapons still on that offense. 261 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: But Nico Collins has been a game changer for them. 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: I think he was already up over five hundred receiving 263 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: yards on the season. I mean, just off to just 264 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: a torrid paced start to this year and the hamstring 265 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: injury keeping him out now landed him, I think on 266 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: injury reserves. 267 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: I think as far as individual players, I think Nico 268 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Collins has the most explosive pass receptions seventeen. I knew that, Okay, 269 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's now with missing a game 270 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: last week and having exited the previous game early because 271 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: of that hamstring. But you said it's Stefan Diggs, Tank Dell. 272 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: They've still got some some receivers that are legitimate weapons. 273 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I think a big key to this game just because 274 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: of how Houston's offense looked last week when Joe Mixon 275 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: returned to the backfield. Mixon missed a few games due 276 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: to injury, including the Vikings game, which was the one 277 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: game that that the Texans did lose, but boy he 278 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: came back. And this this guy, this guy is a powerful, 279 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: powerful running back and uh and he really provides. He 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: provides the balance in the offense for CJ. Stroud, much 281 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: in the same way that the Packers have been looking 282 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: and working toward the balance with with Josh Jacobs a 283 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: power back, and then and a guy like Emmanuel Wilson 284 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: behind him to balance things out for Jordan Love Joe 285 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Mixon does that for C. J. Stroud and and the 286 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Packers are going to have their hands full with this 287 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: running back. 288 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: They really are a mix. And I was intimating this 289 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: in the inbox. I mean they are a different offense 290 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: when you look at now again, they've played different caliber competition. 291 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to put the Colts and the Patriots 292 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: on the same pedestal as the other three opponents they've had, 293 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: but you look at the points, you look at the 294 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: production across the board, it's been better when Nixon has 295 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: been out there. Their only lost came the first game 296 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: they were without him, and they had to kind of 297 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: find another way and grind out some victories there to 298 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: keep things moving in the right direction. That has been 299 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: a bit, you know, as much as we talk about 300 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs here or Aaron Jones in Minnesota, them bringing 301 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: in Joe Mixon has really kind of filled one of 302 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: those very few holes on their offense and gives them 303 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: a capable every down belcow back to kind of work 304 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: off of the other one thing too, And maybe I 305 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: can get into this too at the Keys to victory 306 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: that that stands out to me when you look at 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: their defense top five defense in a lot of different 308 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: categories past they only have five interceptions, So Xavier McKinney 309 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: has as many interceptions as the Houston Texans. Houston Texas 310 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: have thirty passes defense this year, Packers have twenty six. 311 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: I think with their nine, I mean they. 312 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Had interceptions count as passed defense. So with the Packers 313 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: with twenty six, that's including the team total of interceptions 314 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: in that. 315 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like they just they bat down balls, 316 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: they get after it, they're aggressive in that whatever. I 317 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: don't even know. The tree has gone so far now 318 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I can't even tell you these branches in terms of, 319 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: you know, what Demiico's doing compared to what Robert salid did, 320 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: compared to what you know, Vic Fangio did. Right, But 321 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: this tree that that sort of sprouted from San Francisco 322 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: and has taken this league by storm. Everybody's had their 323 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: own little wrinkles to it. And the Houston Texans, again, 324 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: that was the hallmark even before CJ. Stroud became the 325 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the year, the way that defense turned 326 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: things around last year. It's again it's a formidable task. 327 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: The Packers are going to be poised to try to 328 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: take down. 329 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've touched on a few things already as 330 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: far as as far as the keys to victory, is 331 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: there something for you that rises to the top of 332 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the list in order for the Packers to leave lambeau 333 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Field on with a five and two record. 334 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: So Nico Collins excusing himself from this game is one 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: thing that is going to help. I mean, five hundred 336 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: and sixty seven receiving yards and four games or whatever 337 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: cannot be wrong. Again, Stefan Diggs is the guy the 338 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: Packers are well familiar with. I'm not going to disrespect 339 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: anything that CJ. Stroud is doing. I'm not going to 340 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: disrespect anything that that passing game is going is doing. 341 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: Green Bay has to stop the run. When you look 342 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: at how this defense has turned things around, Yes, it's 343 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: very attractive. It's very awesome how many interceptions they have 344 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: and the takeaway number seventeen four more takeaways than any 345 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: other team right now, the NFL, what have you. But 346 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: the fact is that Green Bay has also been much 347 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: better against the run, with the exception of really one 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: leaking out last week against the Cardinals, they've really contained 349 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: the explosives there in this little turnaround that they've had 350 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: since Jordan Love got back under center. If you can 351 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: contain Joe Mixon, I think that sets you up to 352 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: better defend what Houston is going to throw at you 353 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: schematically down the field. It's not easy. Mixon is the 354 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: guy that will grind you out. He's that sake Que Barkley, 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: the type. Okay, we'll see what the first half looks 356 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: like and then suddenly it's one hundred and twenty rushing 357 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: yards in the fourth quarter and you don't know what happened, right, 358 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: But that is the basis for everything and how it starts. Also, 359 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: they traded Cam Acres too now, so I guess Damian 360 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: Pierce would probably be the next guy up. 361 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, cam Akers the Minnesota Vikings traded for 362 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: him again. 363 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Acres now on his fourth tour, so. 364 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Like he's back, he's back in Minnesota. An UNANSWERU. The 365 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Vikings have to some concerns about Aaron Jones injury and whatnot, 366 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: trying to build up some more depth there. 367 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: But Damian Pierce being back is a big deal. That's 368 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: that's another aspect of this thing that could really affect 369 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: this game. 370 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm one hundred percent with you on on 371 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: stopping the run in this game, because nothing will be 372 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: harder about stopping c. J. Stroud than if Joe Mixon 373 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: gets going. And that running game for the Texans is 374 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: controlling the line of scrimmage. It's just gonna make it's 375 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna make your life miserable defensively and h and that 376 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: is a big challenge. The other one, and the other 377 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: one for me that jumps out is really about offensively 378 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: for the Packers is to is to keep doing what 379 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: they're doing and really build on what we saw last week. Now, 380 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: Houston's defense is much much better than Arizona, so this 381 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: is a totally different ballgame in that regard. But I'm 382 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: talking about the balance that the Packers had between the 383 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: passing game and the running game and all of the 384 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: variety that is part of the running game, whether it's 385 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: the running backs, the wide receivers on the end to rounds, 386 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, stretching the defense laterally. And in line with 387 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: that is also the offensive line, which I thought played 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: its best game of the season collectively against the Arizona Cardinals. 389 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: The offensive line rising to the challenge of a Houston 390 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: defensive front that is probably as good as it gets 391 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: in the league right now, Jordan Morgan got back into 392 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: action from his shoulder injury. That rotation with Sean Ryan 393 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: at right guard seems to be working. The Packers are 394 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: getting production there. It looks like Josh Myers at center 395 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: no worse for wear from, you know, coming out of 396 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: the last game with an injury, but then going back 397 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: in he seems to be okay. He is, he is practicing. 398 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: We've seen, uh, We've seen Rashid Walker at left tackle 399 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: the pack The penalties have settled down. He's really played 400 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: some good football the last couple of weeks and looking 401 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: a lot more like the Rashid Walker from the stretch 402 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: run last year when he really took over that left 403 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: tackle position and they ditched the rotation with yash Niemen 404 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: and said, okay, Rashid, like that's your job. That's the 405 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: guy we're seeing now at left tackle. We all know 406 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: what Elton Jenkins is at left guard, and and Zach Tom, 407 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: as we talked about before, you would never know that 408 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: this guy missed almost basically the bulk of the offseason 409 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: program and was very limited throughout training camp before the 410 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: regular season started. Zach tom is playing like a Pro 411 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Bowl level right tack here very quietly, not getting a 412 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: lot of attention for it, and he doesn't draw attention 413 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: to himself and all that kind of stuff. This Packer's 414 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: offensive line is coming together. We're seeing it come together 415 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: faster earlier in the season than we did last year 416 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: with some of the injuries and shuffling around and everything 417 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: like that. Last week needs to be just a building 418 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: block though, for that group. With what you've got coming 419 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: in this week, I think I think this game falls 420 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot on those guys up front for. 421 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: The Packer, I agree, and it will be a huge 422 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: challenge for the guys on the edge. I mean, those 423 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: are two big dudes, two talented, explosive pass rushers. They're 424 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 2: gonna have to slow down. Even though Dannil Hunter only 425 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: has two and a half sacks, he does have seven 426 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: quarterback hits already this year. This is a big piece 427 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: and a big puzzle for this offensive line to figure out. 428 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: What you have to feel good about, though, is when 429 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: you look at someone like Zach Tom who again another 430 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: fourth round pick, Day three guy that has come in 431 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: from everyone, does it different. Rashid Walker did it very different, 432 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: but it came in day one and looked like he 433 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: belonged so much, reminding you of of Elton Jenkins. But 434 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: then green Bay really had to just sit there and 435 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, so where do we want this guy 436 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 2: to play? Because to this day, I still think no 437 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: matter what position he's at, the guy can perform at 438 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: a pro bowl level. He can perform it on all 439 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: pro level. Yeah. And he's so freaking consistent at a 440 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: position which is very difficult to be consistent at, especially 441 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: when you miss your half your off season program with 442 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: as an offensive lineman with a peck injury. 443 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, a surgically repaired PECTORUMO. 444 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: And so for him to be doing what he's doing again, 445 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: this is going to be a supreme test. It's gonna 446 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: be something where they're gonna have to play four quarters 447 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: and carry it out beginning, middle, and end. But for 448 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: what green Bay was able to find in that twenty 449 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: twenty three NFL Draft, twenty twenty two when he NFL 450 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Draft NFL Draft, the fact that they have two I 451 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: guess you'd call it two and a half starters, you know, 452 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: with Sean Ryan in that rotation. Yeah, it's impressive what 453 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: Base been managing to do with it, basically all coming 454 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: on day three. 455 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a little bit of sponsor business here. West 456 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: Sirius XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 457 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. 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We're being asked in insider inbox like 468 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: as Packers fans, like, you know, who are you supposed 469 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: to root for here? My initial answer was, well, you know, 470 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: one of them's got to lose, which is a good 471 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: thing because they're both aheady in the standings. They both 472 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: can't win this week, so that's a But you got 473 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: a you got any kind of a gut feeling if 474 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: you're a Packers fan on just who you're supposed to 475 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: root for here? 476 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so one first and foremosts I could not possibly 477 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 2: care less. That was what I hate answering that way 478 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: when people ask me those questions at inbox, because then 479 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being flippant, but I really don't 480 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: care what I will say. Though. The more I marinated, 481 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: the more I thought about it, the more I sat there, 482 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, I looked into my crystal ball 483 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: and said, what should happen in this matchup? I think 484 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: I want the Detroit Lions to win. Okay, I think 485 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: it's time for the Minnesota Vikings. For as many adverse 486 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: wins as they got, as much rallying as they've done, 487 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: you need that first arrow to hit in the siege, right, 488 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: and it's just they they're five and oh they're feeling themselves. 489 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: If the Detroit Lions could go into US Bank Stadium 490 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: and do what they did to the Dallas Cowboys, suddenly 491 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: you start to get some questions in your mind. I'm 492 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: not saying you got to beat them forty seven to nine, yeah, 493 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: but then you say, everybody knew the Detroit Lions were 494 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: going to be a very talented juggernaut this year. Coming 495 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: off of what they did last season. Nobody expected this 496 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: out of Minnesota. My question is, let's say there is 497 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: a loss there, then how does Minnesota bounce back from it? Now? 498 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: The contrast says the Packers have to play the Lions 499 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: in two weeks anyway, do you want them having so 500 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: much momentum? I don't know, but I do think there 501 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: is something to be said for potentially the Lions taking 502 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: that zero. 503 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: I did see one suggestion I think I'm actually going 504 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: to print it in Friday Mornings inside our Inbox column 505 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: from a reader, and I think it's a good way 506 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: to look at it if you're trying to really, you know, 507 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: make an objective decision on this game. From a Packers 508 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: fan perspective, it's that the Packers still have two games 509 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: left with the Lions. They only have one left with 510 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings, so that in that circumstance, it probably is 511 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: better for the Vikings to take that first loss, because 512 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: because the Packers don't have as many opportunities to tag 513 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: more losses on the Vikings themselves, whereas they do have 514 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: two games left with the Lions. I thought I thought 515 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: that was a worthwhile perspective. 516 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: It's tough to catch the front runner if they're not 517 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: going to pull back a. 518 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Little bit, right, Yeah, And from an injury this this 519 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: game is really interesting also from an injury perspective, because 520 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: now it's possible Aaron Jones is going to be able 521 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: to come back and play for Minnesota. That's still very 522 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: much in question though, and we saw when he exited 523 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: the game in London against the Jets, the Vikings offense 524 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: just kind of turtled up and couldn't do much without 525 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. So they really really want him back. And 526 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: as we mentioned then, they made the trade for Cam 527 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Akers for depth a running back because they obviously have 528 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: concerns there. And this will be the first game for 529 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: the Lions without Aiden Hutchinson, who suffered that that horrific 530 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: broken leg you know, had to be rushed off for 531 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: emergency surgery in Dallas. He's out for the rest of 532 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the season, and you know that Lion's defense now has 533 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: to has to deal with not having not only the 534 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: emotional leader and all that, but the guy who was 535 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, certainly already in the discussion for possibly NFL 536 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. And that's something that the 537 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Lions have to react to. One other game obviously that 538 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people will be watching on Sunday, the 539 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch Kansas City chiefs San Francisco forty nine 540 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: ers and the Niners need to win in order to 541 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: not be below five hundred after seven games, which is 542 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: kind of hard to believe. Kansas City has taken on 543 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: all comers. They haven't looked the prettiest in getting to 544 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: five and zero. But Patrick Mahomes is proving that he's 545 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: just a find a way to win guy with you know, 546 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: with whatever the circumstances, whatever the stakes. This is a 547 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: guy who finds a way. He's going to have to 548 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be working to find a way in 549 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco on late Sunday afternoon. 550 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: Reminds me a lot of like the twenty fifteeners a 551 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, obviously they didn't lose George, well 552 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: actually they did, they lost for she Rice, but uh 553 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: like they're just like they're winning, and they're just kind 554 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: of like, Okay, how long is this going to go for? Right? 555 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: How long is there gonna be a hiccup there at 556 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: some point? Yeah? Uh, San Francisco is in there, and 557 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to call it dire straits. But they're 558 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: they're feeling it right now. I mean, when your kicker 559 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: gets hurt, you know, things are not going well for 560 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: you right now, you know. 561 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: And well when you're when your kicker gets hurt, and 562 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: then your backup kicker gets hurt, yeah, and now you're 563 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: possibly going to a third kicker might end up being 564 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: Andre Carls. I mean they signed him to the practice 565 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: squad this week because of this injury situation at kicker. Yeah, 566 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: and they're h and at the same time, they've been 567 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out where they're at offensively without 568 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, who you know, has his absence now has 569 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: been extended quite a while. 570 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, he was questionable in that week one game. 571 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but yeah no, and then Jordan Mason's gotten 572 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: banged up now too. Yeah. George Kittle has been fighting 573 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: through some stuff. They're in a tough spot right now 574 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 2: seeing where all that goes. May I throw on one 575 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: more game for you, talking about Russell Wilson potentially making 576 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: his twenty twenty four season debut after in my opinion, 577 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: I thought justin Fields played really really well. Well. 578 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: What are the Steelers fore and two. 579 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: Foreign too, justin fields, I think has one interception this year. 580 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Your foreign you're foreign to your foreign two and you're 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and you're actually thinking of changing quarterbacks here. I don't 582 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I honestly don't understand it. 583 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: But we are getting Aaron Rodgers versus Russell Wilson. One 584 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: is wearing a Jets uniform, one's wearing a Steelers uniform. Yeah, 585 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: I mean would have thunk it right. And also I 586 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: threw this out there on Twitter. Uh. I forget who 587 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: it was originally. Maybe it was Perry Goldstein that was 588 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: the one that originally was talking about the Jets being 589 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: in primetime Again, do you think they made the NFL 590 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: made the Jets schedule and then after that just did 591 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: the rest of the leading the way that this has 592 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: worked out, they're either they've either been in primetime or 593 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: they're in London. 594 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 595 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: Like there's like that's just like the way of the 596 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: way of it this year. Yeah. 597 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Well and now and it's like now they have a 598 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: new head coach, they have a new wide receiver they 599 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: brought in via trade from the Raiders, and they're all 600 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff going on. 601 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: We gotta go, there's no time left. Yeah, we gotta leave. 602 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: We do have to go. 603 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: I am so sick of double Monday night football already too. 604 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: By the way, we can save that for an off 605 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: season unscripted potentially if we need to kill some time. 606 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: At some point, I saw another double header or whatever 607 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: you want to call these things, because they're not even 608 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: double headers. They're like half a header's where it's like 609 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: they had there's some like overlap between the two games. 610 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: He just give me one Monday night game, maybe one 611 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: Sunday night game. If we gotta do Thursday, we'll do Thursday. 612 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Sick of it that we're gonna We're gonna do a 613 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: wes Hodkowitz Pet Peeves offseason episode. 614 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: This this coming. We got a lot of problem with 615 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: your people. 616 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: I gotta start making I gotta start making some notes. 617 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: But we do have to go. Will. 618 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 1: I will leave you with this, however, The home of 619 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft is right here in 620 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay April twenty four through April twenty six, twenty 621 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: twenty five. Visit green Bay dot com slash Draft twenty 622 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: five for more information. 623 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: It's coming, Michael. It is getting closer. 624 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: With that. We'll call it a wrap on this edition 625 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: of Packers unscripted'd be sure to follow all of our 626 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: coverage of the team and everything from Sunday's big matchup 627 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: with the Houston Texas at Lambellfield. We will have it 628 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: all for you on packers dot com for west Iimmike. 629 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 630 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: next time.