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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, congratulations and thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start out by talking I just I

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Speaker 2: really want to start out by asking you guys about

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Speaker 2: the finale episode. So, Joey, when did you know that

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Speaker 2: Kelsey was the one? Because we have to say that

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Speaker 2: you weren't the best actor with Daisy in the finale,

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Speaker 2: which is totally fine. I love transparency. But we heard

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Speaker 2: on the Chicks in the Office podcast that Daisy walked

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Speaker 2: into the room, your room and you quickly had to

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Speaker 2: hide a letter that you wrote to Kelsey that said

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Speaker 2: I see you as my wife. So you had to

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Speaker 2: have known before that finale week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that I can give as much context as poss

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Speaker 3: up on that. So we always said there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of breadcrumbser about the whole thing that led to

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Speaker 3: that final moment. It really did start all the way

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Speaker 3: back and Ron after the first one on one and

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Speaker 3: that Malta day that to give context in the note,

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Speaker 3: she wrote me a really sweet letter on like a postcard,

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Speaker 3: and I was like thinking about her so much.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, let me just get

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Speaker 4: my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Out, I wanted to journal it and I dated it

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Speaker 3: and it was all the way back in Malta. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was at the moment where things were starting with

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Speaker 3: us and I did say like I could see you

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Speaker 3: as a future wife, So I wanted to read it

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Speaker 3: to her on the final date so that she knew

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Speaker 3: this has been going for a while. But I in

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Speaker 3: my position, as everyone knows, have to stay open, have

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Speaker 3: to go through the whole process to make sure that

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Speaker 3: I give her the full confirmation that she deserves. And

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Speaker 3: we both agreed, like the final moment which America sold

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Speaker 3: two was after she met my family. Like after we

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Speaker 3: got through her meeting my family, I knew she was

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Speaker 3: ready and where she was at. That was when I

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Speaker 3: think I started acting a little bit differently and not

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Speaker 3: giving Daisy what she needed and was very aware of

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Speaker 3: my words, and I can say I regretted all of that,

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Speaker 3: but I know I did.

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Speaker 4: It the best that I could.

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Speaker 3: And I think what's most important now is she knows

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Speaker 3: how much my love was always there for her, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: we both would day obviously nothing but the best.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just handled everything this season so perfectly. Greatest

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Speaker 2: Bachelor in a very long time, We're just so grateful

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Speaker 2: for you because you really really like rejuvenized the franchise

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Speaker 2: and you were you were excellent and you couldn't have

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Speaker 2: picked a more wonderful woman. I Y, when Daisy came

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Speaker 2: to your room and started asking you about how you

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Speaker 2: felt your week went, when, what did you think? Where

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Speaker 2: did you think the conversation was leading?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea, And through the whole process, I

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Speaker 1: never really talked a whole lot about Joey and I's

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Speaker 1: relationship to other women.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think it was necessary. I just kind of

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Speaker 5: held it to myself.

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Speaker 1: So whenever she was asking me those questions, I was

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Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it was good, it was good.

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Speaker 1: And then she like had asked me a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: and finally I was like, she's like asking me like

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Speaker 1: did you get validation? You're like, what, Like, can you

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Speaker 1: tell me? I just She's like, if you're comfortable with it.

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Speaker 1: Finally I was like, yeah, you know, I got a

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Speaker 5: Validation and reassurance.

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Speaker 1: And then I think that she was like thankful for

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Speaker 1: that because she knew that how she felt and she

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Speaker 1: just wanted me and Joey to be happy, but it

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Speaker 1: was a special moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then you guys you said on another podcast, because

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Speaker 2: I don't want to repeat questions with you guys, but

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Speaker 2: you said on another podcast that you don't remember who

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Speaker 2: came up with the actual idea of getting in the

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Speaker 2: car together. But once that was decided, did you know

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Speaker 2: that Daisy was going to tell Joey? I know it's

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Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't positive what she was going to do.

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Speaker 1: I knew that she wanted to go and do it

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Speaker 5: But I was really happy with her and proud of her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, so how did it go? Like did the

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Speaker 2: producer say, all right, well, Daisy's gonna get out of

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Speaker 2: and then Kelsey, you're gonna be second. Because to all

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Speaker 2: of us us that's the dead giveaway that you're about

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Speaker 1: I think that at that point everybody just kind of knew,

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Speaker 1: was still a little like, you never know. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know until he's down on one knee, but

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Speaker 1: I hope so, And some of my producers were like,

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Speaker 1: are you crazy right now?

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Speaker 3: Okay was first because I was expecting to end it

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Speaker 3: with her in that moment, So that was all planned before.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know until after the fact that they that.

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Speaker 5: We went together, that we had a conversation before. He

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, No, she got out the car first

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Speaker 1: and then we had a hug, and then she immediately

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Speaker 1: just walked down to Joey and then I fixed my hair.

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Speaker 2: So you guys were actually interacting right before going down

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Speaker 2: the aisle.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Ben was certain that you guys it looked like you

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Speaker 2: were in the car together, which of course you were

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Speaker 2: in the car together, but that you got separated and

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Speaker 2: then they sent one of you down so that you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't know who actually was going first.

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Speaker 1: No, she immediately walked down. Yeah, we gave like the

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I was good luck.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that truly is unprecedented. But Joey, you we saw

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Speaker 2: you teased all summer long. Well you didn't tease, but like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the scenes for the next episode or the

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Speaker 2: scenes from the finale teased all season long that you

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Speaker 2: like break it down at the altar and that you're

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Speaker 2: You're like, there's no way that's ever happened before, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it was.

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Speaker 3: They did a really good job of making it seem

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Speaker 3: that I didn't want to put Daisy through that, Like

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Speaker 3: but for her to then walk away, I need to

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Speaker 2: Were you afraid that they could have edited to make

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Speaker 2: it look alike you were dumped in the end, and that,

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Speaker 2: like Kelsey was default girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that anyone can be afraid of how

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Speaker 3: of the day, we can always control our story. We've

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Speaker 4: But we knew how strong.

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Speaker 3: Our love was and how much we were so excited

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Speaker 3: to see our moment and our engagement. But we knew

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Speaker 3: because of the ending, it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: whole different experience for everyone that was a part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Daisy was so certain it wasn't her like

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Speaker 2: she felt that in her bones. It meant that you

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Speaker 2: sort of treated her like that. Doesn't that make you,

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Speaker 2: Kelsey feel even more confident in what you have that

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Speaker 2: you never have to look back on the season and

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Speaker 2: be like, man, he was really torn between the two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that was my biggest fear, and

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Speaker 1: I talked to him about that a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: of like I don't want you to be confused at

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Speaker 1: the end of who it's gonna be, and like if

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Speaker 1: you get down on one knee for me, like it

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Speaker 1: needs to be one hundred and ten percent me because

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what I deserve.

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Speaker 5: I also think that's what he deserves.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's a love that he's so certain about

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Speaker 1: and that I'm so certain about. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that that's how I knew for sure that you know,

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Speaker 2: For sure, Kelsey. You didn't give a speech. From what

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Speaker 2: we saw at the altar, every girl has to kind

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Speaker 2: of give her recipient, you know, she has to do

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Speaker 2: her own little thing before getting proposed to. You on

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Speaker 2: the Bachelor, from what we saw, just got to kind

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Speaker 2: of enjoy being proposed to. But how did it actually

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Speaker 1: So I actually said my speech first, and I'm not

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Speaker 6: The whole moment was black out for me. I was

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Speaker 6: just like, please proposed to me. But she said a

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Speaker 6: lot of really sweet things she said. Even after she

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Speaker 6: I had a whole other section that I forgot about. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm sure that moment was a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit jumbled, but she said beautiful things and it's

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Speaker 2: I remember it the fact that I always get stressed

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Speaker 2: if you jumbled it. I'm always impressed by how articulate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was rehearsing it multiple times. I was like,

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Speaker 1: can I bring these please?

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Speaker 2: That's right, just like a couple of little bullet points,

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Speaker 2: like because I was thinking about like at my wedding,

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Speaker 2: like you know, I had to read it. I'm a

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Speaker 2: great writer, but I can't exactly like just memorize lines

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Speaker 2: then deliver them in front of an audience. So bravo

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Speaker 2: for whatever whatever you did, because I'm sure it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Was there a moment throughout the entire season that you

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Speaker 3: I'll speak on one because I think that one of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, where was our whole conversation the polaroids for us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do as somebody else who's like in a

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have a full tape of every single moment.

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Speaker 1: I think I got stressed on like the initial like

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Speaker 5: And I think we pretty much did dating and reverse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we.

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Speaker 3: We know that there's a lot to learn, but we

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Speaker 2: No, I love that. I remember being on The Bachelor

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Speaker 5: Did you do that?

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Speaker 3: We had little stuff like that, and like you said,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, the little moments, and we did that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we did. It was fun. I actually had a wait.

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Speaker 4: Like thought about this run out the journal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that is so cute.

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Speaker 2: That's the perfect time to bring out the journal.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of fantasy suitets. Okay, So you guys are

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Speaker 5: Did you have some day.

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Speaker 2: Dreams on airplanes and stuff, just fantasizing about the fantasy

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Speaker 3: I can say that, she said, like she explained the

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's a beautiful song and the chorus hit.

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Speaker 3: When I was listening to the first time, I was like, damn, Kelsey, okay,

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, dress is a very like,

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Speaker 1: It was hilarious. Whenever he saw me next, he was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what. That was one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, yeah, she got me blushed on.

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Speaker 2: And then I started blushing whenever you said that, Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: everybody loves your dad, big fan favorite. I think he

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Speaker 2: him when Jesse said, maybe we'll be seeing more of

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Speaker 2: to be on the next season of The Golden Bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think that that sounds so

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Speaker 2: You think that that sounds exciting for him, So you

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Speaker 5: I think that it would be a good push for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, well, guys, thank you so

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Speaker 2: and us on the Almost In this podcast, we want

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Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Taylor Ford. Her boyfriend

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Speaker 2: called us and said that all she wants for her

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Speaker 2: birthday is a shout out from Joey and Kelsey and

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Speaker 2: she just turned nineteen and she plays beach volleyball at UCLA. So, guys,

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Speaker 2: can you just say Happy birthday Taylor Ford?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Three two one, Happy Birthday Taylor Ford.

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Speaker 2: Amazing You guys rock and I can't wait to see

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Speaker 2: your lives together because you're one of my favorite bachelor couples.

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Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that, Hi, guys, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Hope to see you soon in person.

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