WEBVTT - Ghosts are REAL

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<v Speaker 1>First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>online at Advocatesla dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy is on the phone today for our first Day

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<v Speaker 2>follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a few minutes we'll call him and see

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<v Speaker 2>if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>get her a second date. But first, Lucy, how long

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<v Speaker 2>has it been since you heard from Josh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Hey, yeah, it's been about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>A good amount of time. Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we had such a good vibe and connection.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't let this go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you try to get a hold of him in

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<v Speaker 1>that time? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely have. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, when was the last time you reached out?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually reached out yesterday. Then I'm a text but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard anything from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll tell us about the date.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, I know it sounds really wild, but it

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<v Speaker 3>honestly felt like it might be something from out of

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<v Speaker 3>a movie. That's how like magical account.

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<v Speaker 5>We met in Vegas, and I don't know, we just

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<v Speaker 5>had a really great time. It felt like otherworldly. It

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<v Speaker 5>was I don't know, I just felt like the universe

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<v Speaker 5>kind of put us.

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<v Speaker 3>Together, and he made me laugh, like immediately it felt

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<v Speaker 3>like disconnected to him, and we just like we saw

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<v Speaker 3>each other at the Latin Machines and just had a

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<v Speaker 3>great conversation and then he got my number and we

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<v Speaker 3>text NonStop, and when I got back home, he actually

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<v Speaker 3>asked me out on a real date. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even let him finish the sentence, like I was like, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys in the same city. How amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it really felt like it was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So so we ended up going to this really

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<v Speaker 5>like vibe wine bar with fairy lights and and we

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<v Speaker 5>shared like a sarcuitary board and like held hands the

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<v Speaker 5>whole time, and I don't know, like it really just

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<v Speaker 5>felt like we were falling in love.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that sounds crazy, but it was just it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, okay, and he was feeling the same way you think.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my goodness, Yeah, like I felt like we were

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<v Speaker 5>so connected and we were like I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was just it was it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely was into me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then what happened, Like, was there anything off at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day or even during.

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<v Speaker 1>The date, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I thought everything was going well and I

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<v Speaker 4>felt really like I wanted to be open and honest

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<v Speaker 4>with him, and so towards the end of the date,

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<v Speaker 4>I told him that I'm technically married. Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm I'm really working on opening things up with

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<v Speaker 4>my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you say opening things up with your husband? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so like open relationship type thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like he already knows like I'm a free spirit,

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<v Speaker 5>and he knows like I'm very open minded. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he loves who I am, and so I I you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I talked to him about it, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, instead of listening and having a conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>he just like felt very frantic and just left.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so like he grabbed his jacket. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even finish his drink. And I haven't heard from Instnce, So.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know why you're getting ghosted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean yes, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I felt like I was being really transparent

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<v Speaker 5>and I believe in honesty and obviously love and multiple

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of love. And he said he really liked emotionally

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<v Speaker 5>intelligent women, and I don't know, I thought that he

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<v Speaker 5>would be at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least willing to have a conversation about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, that's what you wanted to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Well we'll play song come back and then

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<v Speaker 2>call him and see if that is, in fact the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that he's ghosting you and try to get you

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<v Speaker 2>a second date if you still want one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, that would be amazing, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll get your first date follow up Next

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<v Speaker 2>first Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>online at advocatesla dot com. If you're just joining us

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<v Speaker 2>for today's first Date follow up. Lucy is on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>We think we might know why, but we're not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell us why he's ghosting her and get her a

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<v Speaker 2>second date. But first, Lucy, why don't you break down

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<v Speaker 2>your situation again real quick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>So I had a really great connection with Josh. We

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<v Speaker 5>went on a date and I was honest with him

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<v Speaker 5>and told him that I'm married, but i'd like to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, have an open relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't not see this last so I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>heard from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Since, all right, well, are you ready to call him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, man, I speak to Josh. Please, Hey Josh, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you? This is a radio show. It's called The

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<v Speaker 2>Jewel Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jewel.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>What's up?

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<v Speaker 6>Guys?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever listened to the show before?

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<v Speaker 6>I have, but just in a minute, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what I'm doing on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we do a segment called the first eight follow up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where if you go on a date with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and then you ghost them, that person can email us

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<v Speaker 2>to get you on the phone and ask why you're

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<v Speaker 2>ghosting them. So we got an email about you, Josh. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>any idea who would email us.

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<v Speaker 5>This?

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Vanessa, it's Lucy, And that's she's actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone and wanted to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lucy, all right?

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<v Speaker 5>Bus So Vanessa, I know I freaked her out by

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<v Speaker 5>telling you I'm married, But are you going out with

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<v Speaker 5>somebody else?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we really had like a connection.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh huh uh Okay, hold on, I'm still trying to

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<v Speaker 6>process all this work. So you thought I ghosted you,

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<v Speaker 6>so you called a radio station to call me on

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<v Speaker 6>the on the air. Is that what?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 6>What is happening here right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>I I didn't know what else to do, so I

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<v Speaker 4>called the radio station, like you've been ghosting me?

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<v Speaker 5>So what did?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm gonna break this down in a way that

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<v Speaker 6>I hopefully you can understand. Lucy, you casually dropped that

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<v Speaker 6>you're married and you're planning to ask him for permission

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<v Speaker 6>to date me.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're asking your.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you think this was gonna go? Like I I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I do like you, but this is so messy. This

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<v Speaker 6>is not how I operate, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, But I mean I was being really vulnerable with you,

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<v Speaker 7>like I felt like, I don't know, I felt like

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<v Speaker 7>we reached this place and like I was able to

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<v Speaker 7>open up to you in that way and and.

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<v Speaker 3>That I want you to be in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like something's really here between us and I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like I could tell you the truth and we

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<v Speaker 5>could like kind of work through this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's see, I didn't sign up for a throuttle

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<v Speaker 6>dot watch that I don't want that. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, like I don't not a threuple just me Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay, I would still be married, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>be monogamous with you, so.

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<v Speaker 6>You wouldn't be with your husband anymore. Is that what

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<v Speaker 6>you're saying to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I well, I would be with him, but but

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<v Speaker 3>it would just be him and then you and nobody else.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not not miss with me. Do you understand what.

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<v Speaker 5>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>But like, what if I just I feel like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what if I.

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<v Speaker 5>Let you date whoever you want, but then you're still

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<v Speaker 5>my boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm going to refer back to the monogamous. Do

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<v Speaker 6>you even know what that word means? This is bothering me.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you tell me what it means? If you if

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<v Speaker 6>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does it mean?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, tell me like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it means.

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<v Speaker 6>So can you explain it to me? Just tell me

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<v Speaker 6>what it is? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Word means?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I think it's going to take more

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<v Speaker 3>than like a conversation on the radio to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, no, I'm just telling you to tell

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<v Speaker 6>me one thing you dragged me on the radio I

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<v Speaker 6>just want you to define one word. What's monogamous?

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<v Speaker 5>Needs?

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Definition, you got your phone to google it?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know? Yeah, I mean I just feel like it.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, it's being with my husband and then and

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<v Speaker 5>then you with my boyfriend and then nobody else. That's great.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, thank you, that's that's amazing cool. So chairs are

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<v Speaker 6>dead too in my world? Like, I don't you know

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<v Speaker 6>you can't just change the definition of a word to

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<v Speaker 6>suit your application. Do you understand that?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you at least see when I can maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>talk to me more about this?

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<v Speaker 6>Like absolutely was at this point. I'm like fascinated with

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on in your mind. I'll never talk to

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<v Speaker 6>you from a romantic angle ever again, or that that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's not happening. That's that's but I want to know.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know how crazy you are. I'm being honest.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to figure out what's going on in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know that that's you, Josh. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>like another day with Lucy? Will pay for it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>No? Like, okay, I get that you think I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a little unconventional, but I just like you would

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<v Speaker 5>maybe want to see like where our connection to go,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it might be worth you know, exploring a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, sometimes we think wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, Okay you did say we so.

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<v Speaker 6>That Yeah, okay, yeah that's a hard No. There will

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<v Speaker 6>never be you and me we as long as you

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<v Speaker 6>have a husband. Okay, okay, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Josh, I feel like it's really unfair that you think

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<v Speaker 5>I should leave my husband for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Escalated.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I don't think you're getting another date, Lucy,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least you got to talk to Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thanks, guys, I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll figure it out, I'm sure. And Josh, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your time.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I still don't know what happened with all this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you will. First date fall