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Speaker 1: Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week on
Speaker 1: this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content,
Speaker 1: news exercises, and weird experiments you can do at home,
Speaker 1: and a lot more on this edition of the program,
Speaker 1: Spooky October stories and listener emails. Now, look, I realized
Speaker 1: this is a podcast and so people can listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast any time of the year, but this is
Speaker 1: October when I'm recording this, and October is my favorite month,
Speaker 1: so I just can't help it. I have to tell
Speaker 1: you some Halloweeny stories this month. As I'm recording this.
Speaker 1: It just it must be. Halloween is so great my
Speaker 1: favorite holiday because that it's just so creative. I think
Speaker 1: people get more creative with their decorations and their entertainment
Speaker 1: at Halloween than any other time of the year. And
Speaker 1: also it opens people's minds in a very special way.
Speaker 1: Of course, I grew up in the mysterious Blue Ridge
Speaker 1: Mountains of Asheville, North Carolina, and everybody around there really
Speaker 1: goes all out at Halloween time, and I think it
Speaker 1: really captures a lot of that old European sense that
Speaker 1: the origins of Halloween go all the way back to
Speaker 1: you know. And so here's what I do. I guess
Speaker 1: it's kind of a tradition. Now. Every October, I have
Speaker 1: to play for you this recording of me reading a
Speaker 1: passage from a novel that I wrote many years ago
Speaker 1: called The Evil in Ashville. And this novel is it's
Speaker 1: all about the legends and the folklore and the mythos
Speaker 1: around Asheville, North Carolina. It's quite lengthy. I think it's
Speaker 1: about three hundred and fifty pages. You can actually get
Speaker 1: it on Amazon. They'll ship it to you in a
Speaker 1: couple of days. It's only about sixteen ninety five, I believe,
Speaker 1: right now on Amazon. But here is just me reading
Speaker 1: about what Halloween was like for me growing up sort
Speaker 1: of coming of age as a teenager in the mountains
Speaker 1: of west for North Carolina, when we would all go
Speaker 1: out and get into fun and mischief and all that
Speaker 1: at a Halloween time. So I even bought the rights
Speaker 1: to the music in the background. So relax, let your
Speaker 1: imagination soar for a moment as you listen to me
Speaker 1: describe what Halloween was like where I grew up. October
Speaker 1: thirty first, it was like the earth had died for
Speaker 1: a night, and on its last exhale, as the life
Speaker 1: slipped away, the darkness of the other world had oozed
Speaker 1: in to the void, left behind ever so gently, the
Speaker 1: sun had submerged into the grave of the horizon, leaving
Speaker 1: behind the cold blue world to fend for itself. The
Speaker 1: leaves and trees were dry and crackly, and the air
Speaker 1: was so thin that it could not restrain the spirits
Speaker 1: of the dead, unleashing them into the helpless realm of
Speaker 1: the living. The color black had never looked blacker, and
Speaker 1: the lustrous moon above a mangy cat at the side
Speaker 1: of the road, and the fire in a jack o'
Speaker 1: lantern's eyes never looked more sinister. The sky above felt
Speaker 1: bigger and bleaker than before, its infinite mystery overwhelming, and
Speaker 1: within each shadow, a spectral predator lurked and waited, watching,
Speaker 1: always watching. But amongst the more substantial underlying malevolence of
Speaker 1: the night, frivolities danced about its crust. There were rubber
Speaker 1: bets flapping from bands of elastic fabric, ghosts hanging from trees, grinning,
Speaker 1: gap toothed pumpkins at every doorstep, and the people, ah,
Speaker 1: the people. It was like the world had turned inside
Speaker 1: out for a night, and all of society filled the streets.
Speaker 1: Both children and adults were decked in costumes of every kind. Witches, goblins, werewolves,
Speaker 1: frankenstein monsters, and grotesque slashed faces strolled every lane. Plastic
Speaker 1: cauldrons of candy sweets abounded. Houses were mummified with soaring
Speaker 1: rolls of toilet paper, dry eyes, fog rolled off, green
Speaker 1: fountains of punch, and floating apples were bobbed for from
Speaker 1: wide germ filled vats and ghoulish garb. Storytellers sat around
Speaker 1: lapping campfires, relating creepy tales of the past, stories of
Speaker 1: hooks and hitchhikers, spook infested houses, heads and bags, cold
Speaker 1: blooded murders, and pranks gone terribly wrong, all of them true,
Speaker 1: of course. And at Helen's Bridge, teens gathered to spot
Speaker 1: the ghostly mistress, perhaps to find her handprint burned permanently
Speaker 1: into the finish of their cars. At other places, like
Speaker 1: the secluded, vacant water tower, the open cut or Spidey Mountain,
Speaker 1: some of the more bold searched to find Satanists absorbed
Speaker 1: in their cursed rights. A human sacrifice splayed before them.
Speaker 1: Young men intrepid and dashing in their capes and masks,
Speaker 1: competed for the favors of young women dressed seductively and
Speaker 1: the revealing costumes of morbid tempery, smoke, candy, mischief, tales, spirits,
Speaker 1: ancient evil, and the crisp air. This was Halloween, all right,
Speaker 1: So that helps you understand why that I enjoy Halloween.
Speaker 1: So much. And again that is from the novel that
Speaker 1: I wrote years ago called The Evil in Ashville. Look
Speaker 1: it up on Amazon. Ashville is spelled ashe V I
Speaker 1: L L E. Maybe someday that will become a movie,
Speaker 1: I think, I honestly think it would make a pretty
Speaker 1: good movie, but I don't have the energy to go
Speaker 1: make it myself at this point. Big job, big story.
Speaker 1: And also now, as you know, I create, I own
Speaker 1: the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours and we sell out every October.
Speaker 1: So you're going to be around Asheville, North Carolina, go
Speaker 1: to Ashville and to go to the Haunted Ashville website. Okay,
Speaker 1: Haunted Ashville dot com, Haunted Ashville dot com. Book your
Speaker 1: reservation there. But if you're on the west coast out
Speaker 1: here where I am around Las Vegas, go to a
Speaker 1: Haunted Bouldercity dot com and take my tour out here.
Speaker 1: You know what I was talking in that passage about
Speaker 1: Helen's Bridge, which is one of the most famous places
Speaker 1: in the whole region around western North Carolina, and I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of experiences up there. I want to
Speaker 1: tell you, however, about one thing that happened to me
Speaker 1: on in October night when I went up to Helen's Bridge.
Speaker 1: And you must realize, now there's this mountain, it's called
Speaker 1: boke at Your Mountain that it sort of sits right there,
Speaker 1: looming above everything in Ashville. And on this mountain is
Speaker 1: a castle that was built in the eighteen eighties called Zeelandia.
Speaker 1: That's because the man who built it went off to
Speaker 1: New Zealand and made a bunch of money, and so
Speaker 1: he called his castle Zelandia. And right outside of Zelandia,
Speaker 1: the roadway passes under this old stone arch bridge that
Speaker 1: connects the top of this narrow ravine. And so the
Speaker 1: story goes that at some point, this woman named Helen
Speaker 1: hanged herself from that bridge because of a tragedy that
Speaker 1: happened at the castle that ended up in her daughter dying.
Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of different versions of that,
Speaker 1: and some more legitimate than others. When we come back
Speaker 1: from our break though, I'm going to tell you about
Speaker 1: what I personally experienced when I had a very creepy
Speaker 1: evening one night up at Helen's Bridge. And then it's
Speaker 1: going to take an even weirder and darker twist into
Speaker 1: a story that is almost unbelievable. I do want to
Speaker 1: point out, however, that another reason I always loved October
Speaker 1: and Halloween, well it's the month of my birthday. My
Speaker 1: birthday is October twenty fifth, so I guess I always
Speaker 1: kind of associated the fun and celebration with friends and
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Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole
Speaker 1: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver.
Speaker 1: Agia dotto zoome. And before I get into the spooky stuff,
Speaker 1: I recently asked all of you to pray for my
Speaker 1: and Lauren's little Chihuahua slash schupacabra named Lama, who is
Speaker 1: suffering from mouth cancer. And I am thrilled to report
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Speaker 1: deeply grateful. You have no idea, so thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Helen's Bridge. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one thing when you hear about a haunted place and
Speaker 1: someone tells you a story about it, or even if
Speaker 1: you go on a website and you see pictures of it,
Speaker 1: even if you see it on TV. There's a difference
Speaker 1: between that and going to one of these places late
Speaker 1: at night, especially if you are by yourself. There is
Speaker 1: no substitute for that personal sensation you get, especially when
Speaker 1: you're under something like this ancient, old haunted bridge up
Speaker 1: in the mountains with nobody else around, no houses around, nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't see any sign of other people
Speaker 1: up there under Helen's Bridge when you're standing there, craning
Speaker 1: your neck back, looking up at this old arcs structure.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're interested in whether or not
Speaker 1: the story of Helen, the traditional story is true, well
Speaker 1: you know you can go read what I wrote about
Speaker 1: all that in my book Haunted Ashville. I don't have
Speaker 1: time to dig into it. That would be a whole show, frankly,
Speaker 1: but regardless of whether or not that story is true.
Speaker 1: There has been death and tragedy associated with that castle
Speaker 1: and that bridge. One of the owner's wives did die
Speaker 1: in a fire. There was a caretaker up there who
Speaker 1: committed suicide back in the day. He killed himself, he
Speaker 1: shot himself in the head. I mean, there is there
Speaker 1: is death associated with this spot, and that's historically provable.
Speaker 1: And one of the stories about this old creepy bridge
Speaker 1: up in the mountains is that and it's not a
Speaker 1: very big bridge, I mean it's you're talking about a
Speaker 1: road that's just wide enough for two cars to drive
Speaker 1: past each other, and then this through this ravine, and
Speaker 1: then up above, you know, you have this arch bridge
Speaker 1: that was i think originally just used to bring cattle
Speaker 1: back and forth across that little canyon. And so one
Speaker 1: of the stories is that if you go up there
Speaker 1: under the bridge and you say out loud, Helen, come forth,
Speaker 1: three times, then something will happen. Either she will appear,
Speaker 1: or if you're in a car, your car will malfunction.
Speaker 1: In some cases they say that she appears and she
Speaker 1: will actually put her hand on your car and burn
Speaker 1: her handprint into the finish. So there are all these
Speaker 1: different things that are supposed to happen. And this story,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been around as long as anybody can remember.
Speaker 1: Who knows when it started. We haven't been able to
Speaker 1: pinpoint the exact origin. It had to be sometime since
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine. So and in fact, I have a
Speaker 1: friend I won't give his name out because he might
Speaker 1: not appreciate he now, he probably wouldn't want me to
Speaker 1: give his name. I have a good friend who grew
Speaker 1: up in the area and Helen's Bridge is one of
Speaker 1: those places where a lot of kids go to hang
Speaker 1: out because there's not much else to do, and they
Speaker 1: go up there and they try to rile up Helen.
Speaker 1: It also has kind of a lover's lane, kind of
Speaker 1: a lure to it. And so one night, and I
Speaker 1: think this was probably back in the nineteen eighties, my
Speaker 1: buddy and some of his friends went up to Helen's
Speaker 1: Bridge about one or two o'clock in the morning, nobody
Speaker 1: else around. They climbed up this. Well, there's there. You're
Speaker 1: not really supposed to walk on the bridge these days.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cool back then or not,
Speaker 1: but it's and it is being historically preserved now. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you kind of like half walk, half climb up this
Speaker 1: trail and you can get up there to the bridge.
Speaker 1: And so he and his friends they go out onto
Speaker 1: the bridge, and they didn't believe in ghosts, and so
Speaker 1: they're taunting her, and one of this guy, who's a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, he says, I'm not proud of this,
Speaker 1: but he started calling her insulting names, saying, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna show up, you're not real, blah blah blah, you know,
Speaker 1: And of course nothing was happening, and so finally, as
Speaker 1: his ultimate display of disrespect, to see if he could
Speaker 1: rile up the spirits, he decides to relieve himself on
Speaker 1: top of the bridge, and as soon as he did this,
Speaker 1: he got a horrible, sharp, searing pain in his lower
Speaker 1: abdomen and he literally doubled over and fell to the
Speaker 1: ground in his own you know what, and ended up
Speaker 1: having to be rushed to the hospital where he had
Speaker 1: this enormous kidney stone that had been just percolating in
Speaker 1: there for who knows how long, And he said that
Speaker 1: it was the worst pain he'd ever felt, and it
Speaker 1: was absolutely astounding that as soon as he did that
Speaker 1: act on the bridge boomed, that thing hit him and
Speaker 1: he did not think he was a coincidence, and he said,
Speaker 1: never again will he ever insult the spirit of Helen
Speaker 1: on Helen's Bridge. So there are lots of stories that
Speaker 1: just about everybody has some kind of a Helen's Bridge story.
Speaker 1: Who grew up in the area, all right, So on
Speaker 1: one October night, and I'm thinking at this point in time,
Speaker 1: i was in my late teens. I don't remember for sure,
Speaker 1: but I was by myself. I was driving a Chevy Lumina,
Speaker 1: and I had been in downtown Asheville doing something. I
Speaker 1: was meeting with somebody. I don't remember exactly what it was,
Speaker 1: but I would make sort of a habit back then
Speaker 1: of if I happened to be out by myself late
Speaker 1: at night, I would take a little detour and I
Speaker 1: would go home by way of Helen's Bridge because I
Speaker 1: just liked driving under that bridge, and I thought maybe
Speaker 1: I'll see something. So on this chilly October night, with
Speaker 1: the leaves crackling and a full moon all the works,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this was. You know, it's pretty late, it
Speaker 1: might have been around like, you know, midnight. I was
Speaker 1: heading home and I say, this is a perfect night
Speaker 1: to go up and see Helen's Bridge. No other car
Speaker 1: was around. I didn't pass anybody as I wound all
Speaker 1: the way up Bowcatcher Mountain, and then I got around,
Speaker 1: I rounded the bend, and there it was, in all
Speaker 1: of its glory, the spooky Helen's Bridge. And so I
Speaker 1: eased up underneath the bridge, and I rolled down my
Speaker 1: window and I leaned out and I said, Helen, come forth, Helen,
Speaker 1: come forth, Helen come forth. And I sat there for
Speaker 1: a moment and I didn't see anything, and I figured, oh, well,
Speaker 1: just you know, just another night where I'm seeing this
Speaker 1: is nothing but an urban legend. Then I pull out
Speaker 1: from under the bridge, and almost immediately, the lights inside
Speaker 1: my car start flickering and dimming, and I start hearing
Speaker 1: weird noises, and I'm like, what is going on? And
Speaker 1: I'm driving on these windy roads, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden my car is dead. All right. I had just
Speaker 1: enough momentum as I was going down this incline to
Speaker 1: be able to get the car into the entrance of
Speaker 1: a driveway, this really secluded driveway, and I thought, boy,
Speaker 1: I hope somebody doesn't come out of here with a
Speaker 1: gun and think that you know, who's this weirdo with this,
Speaker 1: So I just I was able to actually get out
Speaker 1: and continue sort of pushing my car, and I was
Speaker 1: able to get it. Fortunately, this driveway had a wide
Speaker 1: enough mouth so that I could get the car there.
Speaker 1: Now this, I didn't have a cell phone back in
Speaker 1: these days. So now here I am late at night,
Speaker 1: all by myself in October, on this dark mountain, and
Speaker 1: my car is dead as a door naill. I think
Speaker 1: that's what they said about I think that's what uh
Speaker 1: Dickon said about Jacob Marley. Dad is a door nill,
Speaker 1: And I think, well, I certainly am not going to
Speaker 1: walk up to somebody's house right now and knock on
Speaker 1: the door. So my only option is to walk back
Speaker 1: the direction I came from, go underneath Helen's Bridge on foot,
Speaker 1: and then walk all the way down bow Catcher Mountain.
Speaker 1: There was a bus station at the bottom, and from
Speaker 1: there I'd have to either use a phone at the
Speaker 1: bus station or across the road and use a phone
Speaker 1: at a store across the road. So I had quite
Speaker 1: a journey ahead of me. When we come back, I
Speaker 1: will tell you what that walk down was like. But
Speaker 1: that is far from the end of my spooky stories
Speaker 1: about Helen's Bridge. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: where the unusual becomes usual. I estimated it would take me,
Speaker 1: maybe even though I was going downhill thirty forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: to walk all the way down this mountain by myself.
Speaker 1: I certainly was not going to hitchhike if anybody came along.
Speaker 1: This is bad enough already, and work my way down,
Speaker 1: hopefully to the bus station where I could make a
Speaker 1: phone call and get some help, get a tow truck
Speaker 1: or whatever and so so here And at this point
Speaker 1: there's all this fog that's starting to set in. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you you could not have created a better environment
Speaker 1: for a horror movie. Foggy, chilly October night, full moon.
Speaker 1: Here I am walking all by myself. The leaves are
Speaker 1: crunching and crackling because the leaves are off the trees.
Speaker 1: They're halfway on, halfway off. Spooky is an understatement. So
Speaker 1: here I now am approaching Helen's Bridge again, this time
Speaker 1: from the opposite side on foot, and I'm thinking, oh boy,
Speaker 1: if anybody, if you're ever going to see Helen, this
Speaker 1: has got to be the time. So as I passed
Speaker 1: under the bridge, I didn't even stop and try to
Speaker 1: call her forth. At this point, I was too rattled.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out of there and get
Speaker 1: some help, you know, I felt completely helpless. And right
Speaker 1: as I okay, I passed under the bridge, and as
Speaker 1: soon as you pass under the bridge, then I had
Speaker 1: to take a right to go down the mountain. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I did that, I heard behind me footsteps.
Speaker 1: It almost sounded like somebody running in my direction. And
Speaker 1: I turned around and I looked back under the bridge,
Speaker 1: and I didn't see anything, but I heard getting closer,
Speaker 1: and then I saw a shadow start to move, and
Speaker 1: at that point I turned and I kept going down
Speaker 1: the mountain, and at a certain point I stopped, and
Speaker 1: I turned around and looked back, and I was waiting
Speaker 1: to see who this person was that was going to
Speaker 1: come out, but it was silent nobody ever appeared. So
Speaker 1: then I turned and I started walking down, and then
Speaker 1: here are the footsteps that get by me, crunching the leaves.
Speaker 1: And I stopped, and I turned around, looked back fully
Speaker 1: expecting to see somebody. Nobody there. This point, my heart
Speaker 1: is racing. I walked even further down, and then there
Speaker 1: they were again, the footsteps crunching in the leaves. And
Speaker 1: I turned around and looked up at the bridge, and
Speaker 1: there standing under the bridge was a dark form, a
Speaker 1: silhouette of a person. And I just stood there and
Speaker 1: I looked at the silhouette and it stood motionless, very
Speaker 1: clearly visible in the moonlight. Plus there was a street
Speaker 1: light that was not too far from that bridge. And
Speaker 1: I stand there and I see this figure with the
Speaker 1: fog kind of swirling around it and seething at the base,
Speaker 1: and it was standing there looking down at me, and
Speaker 1: I was looking up at it. And at that point
Speaker 1: I said, screw this, I'm out of here, and I
Speaker 1: ran down that mountain and never looked back. And I
Speaker 1: ran all the way down till I got to that
Speaker 1: bus station. The bus station was closed. Actually, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. It's no longer even in business. So maybe
Speaker 1: they were going out of business at the time. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I ran up to the phone. It was
Speaker 1: out of service. Yes, again, just like a horror movie.
Speaker 1: So I had to cross the road Tunnel Road, very
Speaker 1: busy road in Nashville, and then I went over to
Speaker 1: I think it was a Walmart at that time. It
Speaker 1: later became an Ingles, But I went over to whatever
Speaker 1: was there at that time, and I got on the phone,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember if I had a quarter or
Speaker 1: if I had to call to collect or whatever I did.
Speaker 1: I called my mom and dad and told them what
Speaker 1: was going on, and so they came and rescued me,
Speaker 1: and we made arrangements for my car to be towed
Speaker 1: the next day. And turns out that the alternator had
Speaker 1: died and it was just conked right out after I
Speaker 1: went under the bridge saying Helen, come forth. Now that
Speaker 1: is a true story. Now you talk about timing, talk
Speaker 1: about timing. Was that the ghost of Helen or some
Speaker 1: other spirit? I don't know, but sometimes you just don't
Speaker 1: want to stick around to find out. Yes, I'm a
Speaker 1: ghost hunter, but you know that could have been somebody
Speaker 1: who was there to kill me. I don't know who
Speaker 1: it was, but that happened, and you know it's just well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you the more freaky story. A few
Speaker 1: years after that, or not too long after that, I
Speaker 1: ended up in college. Okay. I went to UNCA, the
Speaker 1: University of North Carolina at Asheville, And in my first
Speaker 1: year I was studying philosophy. That was my favorite class,
Speaker 1: and my professor there was just a brilliant guy, and
Speaker 1: we really hit it off and we actually became friends
Speaker 1: outside of class. Taking philosophy opened my eyes up in
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and so sometimes after class
Speaker 1: I would go to his office and we would sit
Speaker 1: down and we would just continue having conversations, and he
Speaker 1: would loan me books and videos, and I mean he
Speaker 1: was actually very fascinated in the paranormal and the spiritual
Speaker 1: world and all that. And we were coming up on
Speaker 1: Christmas break, and I went to his office one day
Speaker 1: and he loaned me a bunch of books and videos
Speaker 1: about paranormal stuff to watch and enjoy over Christmas break.
Speaker 1: And when the break was over, I went back to
Speaker 1: his office to return these materials, and his office was closed,
Speaker 1: and then as I was about to leave, a professor
Speaker 1: stepped out of an adjacent office, and he said, are
Speaker 1: you looking for doctor? His name was doctor Howard. He said,
Speaker 1: are you looking for doctor Howard? I said yes, and
Speaker 1: he said, well, I'm sorry to tell you doctor Howard
Speaker 1: is dead. He has passed away. And I said what,
Speaker 1: And I mean, it was just one of those moments
Speaker 1: where the jaw hits the floor, you know, And I
Speaker 1: said what happened? And the guy says, well, we're not sure,
Speaker 1: but there was a gun involved. Well, it turns out
Speaker 1: that my philosophy professor, who had a PhD from Duke University,
Speaker 1: had he had committed suicide. He shot himself in the
Speaker 1: head with a pistol during the Christmas vacation. And I
Speaker 1: was just terribly distraught and grief stricken for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, that really hit me hard. And then, much
Speaker 1: to my shock, not long after that, maybe like a
Speaker 1: week after that, I got a phone call out of
Speaker 1: the blue, and it was from his widow, and she
Speaker 1: told me that doctor Howard would talk about me with
Speaker 1: her and that she knew that I was investigating strange
Speaker 1: and paranormal phenomena and she asked me if I would
Speaker 1: come to the house to see if I could facilitate
Speaker 1: contact with his spirit. I couldn't believe it, so I said, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you know, this is still very early in my career,
Speaker 1: so to speak. So I got together with my friend
Speaker 1: Mark L. Spinnett, who he's a great investigator. In fact,
Speaker 1: I interviewed him on my old podcast, Joshua Pee Warren Daily.
Speaker 1: If you go to Joshua Pee Warren Daily and do
Speaker 1: a search, and this is a podcast I did before
Speaker 1: I started doing strange things, if you search for oh,
Speaker 1: let me see, I have too many notes here, Okay,
Speaker 1: go to the Joshua Pee Warren Daily from November twentieth
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, and it's called a Rare Call with
Speaker 1: paranormal investigator Mark Ellis Spinnett where we talk about spirits, synchronicity,
Speaker 1: alien implants and more. You'll realize who Mark is. So
Speaker 1: Mark and I decided to get together and go to
Speaker 1: this house. And I had no idea where he lived.
Speaker 1: And guess what, Doctor Howard lived in a house on
Speaker 1: Boketcher Mountain right there, right down the side of the
Speaker 1: mountain from Helen's Bridge. Yeah. I could not believe it,
Speaker 1: could not believe it. So Mark and I we went
Speaker 1: do the house and was very emotional and we sat
Speaker 1: there for an evening with his widow and I'll never
Speaker 1: forget seeing his PhD stained with blood, his philosophy PhD
Speaker 1: stained with blood. And that was the first time I
Speaker 1: think that I was able to take out my instruments
Speaker 1: and actually make communication, interactive communication with a spirit from
Speaker 1: the other side. And I need to keep that communication private.
Speaker 1: It was very personal information that came out that was
Speaker 1: extremely meaningful to his widow. Basically, they had gotten into
Speaker 1: a big fight which upset him enough to do this,
Speaker 1: or was the straw that broke the camel's back. And
Speaker 1: that was an eye opening night for me to see
Speaker 1: that I had believed that we had communicated with the
Speaker 1: spirit of a deceased person with the aid of some technology.
Speaker 1: And I wish I could tell you more, but I
Speaker 1: think I've said enough about that. And it's really just
Speaker 1: amazing that that was right there on Billketcher Mountain next
Speaker 1: to Helen's bridge. I can't believe this show is almost
Speaker 1: over already. We only have one more segment when we
Speaker 1: come back. I'm not sure if I'm going to have
Speaker 1: time for listener emails or not. I might have lied
Speaker 1: to you on that because I have some other stuff
Speaker 1: that I want to tell you that you're gonna enjoy.
Speaker 1: I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua P. Warren, and I meant to
Speaker 1: tell you this before, but it was one of those
Speaker 1: things where I ran out of time. I recently did
Speaker 1: a podcast about the trip that my family and I
Speaker 1: took to Colorado and explored the Rockies, and I told
Speaker 1: you that before that trip, I set up an apex
Speaker 1: machine to protect us all and to keep us all
Speaker 1: healthy and to make sure the trip flowed smoothly and
Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff, and I was very
Speaker 1: serious about it. I took a picture of the apex
Speaker 1: machine after it was set up, and then I would
Speaker 1: look at that picture occasionally throughout the trip. And if
Speaker 1: you don't know what the apex machine is, just go
Speaker 1: to the apex machine dot com. Theapex machine dot Com. Well,
Speaker 1: here is what I wanted to tell you before, and
Speaker 1: I ran out of time. I had never been to
Speaker 1: downtown Denver, Colorado before, and our very first night, we
Speaker 1: got in late, and so I had already looked at
Speaker 1: some possible late night spots for us to go, eat, eat,
Speaker 1: and go to bed. And this was on a Saturday night,
Speaker 1: so I knew that it was everything was going to
Speaker 1: be really busy. But I picked out this one place
Speaker 1: that looked really good on the internet. I don't want
Speaker 1: to use its name, and that was like, this is
Speaker 1: going to be our go to. So after we got
Speaker 1: checked into the hotel, we're talking to myself, Lauren, my
Speaker 1: mom and dad, my sister Jessica, her fiance Andrew. We
Speaker 1: all piled into an Uber very friendly Uber driver, and
Speaker 1: he took us over to this place that I had
Speaker 1: decided we were going to eat at. And when we
Speaker 1: got over there, it really just looked a little too raucous.
Speaker 1: It looked too packed, and it looked like it might
Speaker 1: be too noisy. And so I said, okay, Plan B,
Speaker 1: because I you know, I had two or three options
Speaker 1: lined up, and I said, yeah, let's not go to
Speaker 1: that place instead, let's try out this other place. And
Speaker 1: that's how we ended up at this spot called the
Speaker 1: British Bulldog, where we walked in and ate and had
Speaker 1: a great time. Well, the rest of the trip went
Speaker 1: smooth asward, and then when we got when we all
Speaker 1: got back home, they went to North Carolina, Lauren and
Speaker 1: I came back here to Vegas. When everybody got back home,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like a day or two later,
Speaker 1: I was looking at the news and I saw Denver
Speaker 1: in the headlines, and I found out, to my shock
Speaker 1: that that night, that night meant I'm talking like minutes
Speaker 1: after we got into our uber and left, there was
Speaker 1: a shooting on that street, right in front of the
Speaker 1: restaurant that we were originally going to go to. And
Speaker 1: I don't have the new story in front of me,
Speaker 1: but I'm I think multiple people were shot, and I
Speaker 1: don't I can't recall if anybody died or not, but
Speaker 1: multiple people were shot. There was there was a young
Speaker 1: woman who was trying to get into someplace and they
Speaker 1: turned her down for some reason, and she just got
Speaker 1: mad and took out a gun and just started shooting
Speaker 1: and firing bullets down the street. And if we had
Speaker 1: ended up at that restaurant, that we had originally intended
Speaker 1: to go to. There is an excellent chance that we
Speaker 1: would have been standing out on that street waiting for
Speaker 1: an uber when that woman started shooting that gun and
Speaker 1: shot those people. An excellent chance. So you know, I
Speaker 1: tell you this because I know sometimes you might try
Speaker 1: to manifest things. You say, I wanted to manifest some
Speaker 1: good luck, good fortune, nothing happened. This doesn't work. Well,
Speaker 1: I get your point, but I want you to also
Speaker 1: realize that sometimes this you doing that may have prevented
Speaker 1: something from happening to you that was really, really bad.
Speaker 1: So always keep that in the back of your mind.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to also tell you about
Speaker 1: this Denver thing is that I mentioned before that I
Speaker 1: went into this oddity shop called the Learned Lemur, and
Speaker 1: I found this picture of Jesus and he's on his
Speaker 1: knees and he's praying. I guess he's at the garden
Speaker 1: and the power of the heavens is beaming down on him.
Speaker 1: And it's one of these like old fashion three D pictures,
Speaker 1: and Lauren and I collect those and we use them
Speaker 1: to decorate parts of our house. And it had this big,
Speaker 1: heavy plaster frame on it, and so I bought it,
Speaker 1: but only because they agreed to ship it to me
Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. Because it wasn't gonna I only
Speaker 1: had carry on. I didn't check baggage and all that.
Speaker 1: So when we got home, this guy, who I guess
Speaker 1: is the owner of the place, he called me and
Speaker 1: he says, I got some bad news. He said, we
Speaker 1: had this picture of this three D picture of Jesus
Speaker 1: on this shelf, and this shelf has been holding all
Speaker 1: of our stuff for three years, but today decided to
Speaker 1: collapse and your picture fell and broke all the pieces
Speaker 1: this frame did. So he says, you know, how do
Speaker 1: you want me to handle this? He goes, you know,
Speaker 1: I can give you a discount and just ship you
Speaker 1: the picture, or I can ship you the picture with
Speaker 1: the pieces of the frame. And I said, well, it's
Speaker 1: really weird. I said no, just you know, send us
Speaker 1: the picture with the pieces of the frame. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can put it back together. So he said okay, and
Speaker 1: he says, and I'm going to, you know, give you
Speaker 1: a refund on your credit card, partial refund. I said, great,
Speaker 1: thank you. So then days and days and days go
Speaker 1: by and this thing never arrives. So I called him
Speaker 1: back and I said, yeah, I'm just wondering, you know,
Speaker 1: if I should have received this picture by now. And
Speaker 1: he goes, huh, you don't have it yet. No, he goes, oh, boy,
Speaker 1: let me see what's going on. So he went and
Speaker 1: he checked FedEx. He had sent it with FedEx, and
Speaker 1: he goes, this is really weird. He says, it's showing
Speaker 1: that it's still at the FedEx depot where I dropped
Speaker 1: it off. I don't understand this, okay, So he goes,
Speaker 1: let me check on this and I'll get back to you.
Speaker 1: So then a few days later he calls and leaves
Speaker 1: a message and he said, you may have a cursed
Speaker 1: object here. He said, somehow, after I dropped this thing
Speaker 1: off at the FedEx, the label got torn off of it,
Speaker 1: and nobody knew what it was, and they had it
Speaker 1: in the corner. But fortunately I was able to describe
Speaker 1: it to them and they opened it and confirm it
Speaker 1: was the and he goes, so they relabeled it and
Speaker 1: now it's being shipped to you, and he goes, and
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't curse your house. So yesterday it
Speaker 1: arrived and so we have the plaster frame and pieces
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be able to
Speaker 1: protect to preserve that or not. But we have the
Speaker 1: picture of Jesus, and look, I don't think it's a curse.
Speaker 1: I just think there's something very powerful and wonderful and
Speaker 1: synchronistic of about this, this image that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be looking at from now on. But I'll keep you
Speaker 1: updated because that's not the only odd thing that's come
Speaker 1: into my house lately. I also, I'm very particular about
Speaker 1: accepting things that people send me. But I have a
Speaker 1: good friend I've known for a long long time, and
Speaker 1: he sent me the most amazing haunted doll that anybody
Speaker 1: has ever sent me. I can from what I can tell,
Speaker 1: this is one of a kind. It's something really special,
Speaker 1: and I'm not ready to tell you more about it,
Speaker 1: but I would keep something like this more than at
Speaker 1: arm's length away. But this one, Lauren and I love
Speaker 1: so much. It's sitting in our living room right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a very complete story for
Speaker 1: you about that in the near future. I'm studying this
Speaker 1: doll right now. So there is so much going on,
Speaker 1: so much going on, all right, So let me try
Speaker 1: to squeeze in at least one email, but hey, you
Speaker 1: know the good thing about this show is yes, I
Speaker 1: run out of time, but there's always next week's show.
Speaker 1: Here's an email that came in from Nancy in Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: and she said, Joshua, I have to share my daughter's
Speaker 1: successes with the successful Employment sigil. After nine months of
Speaker 1: being out of work, she used the sigil as her
Speaker 1: screensaver on her phone. Within the week, she obtained her
Speaker 1: dream job. I also use the SIGEL to look for
Speaker 1: employment and had several offers within a few weeks. I
Speaker 1: am a true believer in these sigels. Keep up the
Speaker 1: good work. I truly enjoy your podcast and sigils and
Speaker 1: the Curiosity Shop items. Sincerely, Nancy, Houston, Texas. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Nancy. That is a really nice email
Speaker 1: and I am just delighted that you have had success
Speaker 1: with that. And I want to remind everybody listening that
Speaker 1: if you go to thesigitl lab dot com, sigitl is
Speaker 1: spelled s I g i L. If you go to
Speaker 1: thesigil lab dot com right now, we are accepting requests
Speaker 1: for personalized sigils. But even if you don't want to
Speaker 1: buy a personalized sigel. Just scroll down to the bottom
Speaker 1: and you're going to find a brand new luck and
Speaker 1: money sigitl that has the luck it's it's a luck
Speaker 1: sigitl that we created and it's combined with the money sigitl.
Speaker 1: You have different versions of it. And then there's a
Speaker 1: section that says for more info on parasigmatic sigils, click here,
Speaker 1: and if you do that, you'll find a bunch of
Speaker 1: other free sigils, including the employment sigil that Nancy wrote about.
Speaker 1: And look, the great thing about these sigils is all
Speaker 1: you have to do is just look at them as
Speaker 1: often as possible throughout the day. That's it, all right,
Speaker 1: my friends, relax, take a deep breath. Here we go.
Speaker 1: It's the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition
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