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Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: Get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird 14 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Strange Things with Joshua E. 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week on 16 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, 17 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: news exercises, and weird experiments you can do at home, 18 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: and a lot more on this edition of the program, 19 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Spooky October stories and listener emails. Now, look, I realized 20 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: this is a podcast and so people can listen to 21 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: this podcast any time of the year, but this is 22 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: October when I'm recording this, and October is my favorite month, 23 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: so I just can't help it. I have to tell 24 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: you some Halloweeny stories this month. As I'm recording this. 25 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: It just it must be. Halloween is so great my 26 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: favorite holiday because that it's just so creative. I think 27 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: people get more creative with their decorations and their entertainment 28 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: at Halloween than any other time of the year. And 29 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: also it opens people's minds in a very special way. 30 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Of course, I grew up in the mysterious Blue Ridge 31 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Mountains of Asheville, North Carolina, and everybody around there really 32 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: goes all out at Halloween time, and I think it 33 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: really captures a lot of that old European sense that 34 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: the origins of Halloween go all the way back to 35 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: you know. And so here's what I do. I guess 36 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: it's kind of a tradition. Now. Every October, I have 37 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to play for you this recording of me reading a 38 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: passage from a novel that I wrote many years ago 39 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: called The Evil in Ashville. And this novel is it's 40 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: all about the legends and the folklore and the mythos 41 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: around Asheville, North Carolina. It's quite lengthy. I think it's 42 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: about three hundred and fifty pages. You can actually get 43 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: it on Amazon. They'll ship it to you in a 44 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: couple of days. It's only about sixteen ninety five, I believe, 45 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: right now on Amazon. But here is just me reading 46 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: about what Halloween was like for me growing up sort 47 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: of coming of age as a teenager in the mountains 48 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: of west for North Carolina, when we would all go 49 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: out and get into fun and mischief and all that 50 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: at a Halloween time. So I even bought the rights 51 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: to the music in the background. So relax, let your 52 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: imagination soar for a moment as you listen to me 53 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: describe what Halloween was like where I grew up. October 54 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: thirty first, it was like the earth had died for 55 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: a night, and on its last exhale, as the life 56 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: slipped away, the darkness of the other world had oozed 57 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: in to the void, left behind ever so gently, the 58 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: sun had submerged into the grave of the horizon, leaving 59 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: behind the cold blue world to fend for itself. The 60 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: leaves and trees were dry and crackly, and the air 61 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: was so thin that it could not restrain the spirits 62 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: of the dead, unleashing them into the helpless realm of 63 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: the living. The color black had never looked blacker, and 64 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: the lustrous moon above a mangy cat at the side 65 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: of the road, and the fire in a jack o' 66 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: lantern's eyes never looked more sinister. The sky above felt 67 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: bigger and bleaker than before, its infinite mystery overwhelming, and 68 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: within each shadow, a spectral predator lurked and waited, watching, 69 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: always watching. But amongst the more substantial underlying malevolence of 70 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the night, frivolities danced about its crust. There were rubber 71 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: bets flapping from bands of elastic fabric, ghosts hanging from trees, grinning, 72 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: gap toothed pumpkins at every doorstep, and the people, ah, 73 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the people. It was like the world had turned inside 74 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: out for a night, and all of society filled the streets. 75 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: Both children and adults were decked in costumes of every kind. Witches, goblins, werewolves, 76 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: frankenstein monsters, and grotesque slashed faces strolled every lane. Plastic 77 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: cauldrons of candy sweets abounded. Houses were mummified with soaring 78 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: rolls of toilet paper, dry eyes, fog rolled off, green 79 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: fountains of punch, and floating apples were bobbed for from 80 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: wide germ filled vats and ghoulish garb. Storytellers sat around 81 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: lapping campfires, relating creepy tales of the past, stories of 82 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: hooks and hitchhikers, spook infested houses, heads and bags, cold 83 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: blooded murders, and pranks gone terribly wrong, all of them true, 84 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: of course. And at Helen's Bridge, teens gathered to spot 85 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the ghostly mistress, perhaps to find her handprint burned permanently 86 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: into the finish of their cars. At other places, like 87 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: the secluded, vacant water tower, the open cut or Spidey Mountain, 88 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: some of the more bold searched to find Satanists absorbed 89 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: in their cursed rights. A human sacrifice splayed before them. 90 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Young men intrepid and dashing in their capes and masks, 91 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: competed for the favors of young women dressed seductively and 92 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the revealing costumes of morbid tempery, smoke, candy, mischief, tales, spirits, 93 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: ancient evil, and the crisp air. This was Halloween, all right, 94 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: So that helps you understand why that I enjoy Halloween. 95 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: So much. And again that is from the novel that 96 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: I wrote years ago called The Evil in Ashville. Look 97 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: it up on Amazon. Ashville is spelled ashe V I 98 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: L L E. Maybe someday that will become a movie, 99 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: I think, I honestly think it would make a pretty 100 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: good movie, but I don't have the energy to go 101 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: make it myself at this point. Big job, big story. 102 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: And also now, as you know, I create, I own 103 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours and we sell out every October. 104 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: So you're going to be around Asheville, North Carolina, go 105 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: to Ashville and to go to the Haunted Ashville website. Okay, 106 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Haunted Ashville dot com, Haunted Ashville dot com. Book your 107 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: reservation there. But if you're on the west coast out 108 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: here where I am around Las Vegas, go to a 109 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Haunted Bouldercity dot com and take my tour out here. 110 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: You know what I was talking in that passage about 111 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: Helen's Bridge, which is one of the most famous places 112 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: in the whole region around western North Carolina, and I've 113 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: had a lot of experiences up there. I want to 114 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: tell you, however, about one thing that happened to me 115 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: on in October night when I went up to Helen's Bridge. 116 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: And you must realize, now there's this mountain, it's called 117 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: boke at Your Mountain that it sort of sits right there, 118 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: looming above everything in Ashville. And on this mountain is 119 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: a castle that was built in the eighteen eighties called Zeelandia. 120 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: That's because the man who built it went off to 121 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: New Zealand and made a bunch of money, and so 122 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: he called his castle Zelandia. And right outside of Zelandia, 123 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: the roadway passes under this old stone arch bridge that 124 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: connects the top of this narrow ravine. And so the 125 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: story goes that at some point, this woman named Helen 126 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: hanged herself from that bridge because of a tragedy that 127 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: happened at the castle that ended up in her daughter dying. 128 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of different versions of that, 129 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: and some more legitimate than others. When we come back 130 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: from our break though, I'm going to tell you about 131 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: what I personally experienced when I had a very creepy 132 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: evening one night up at Helen's Bridge. And then it's 133 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: going to take an even weirder and darker twist into 134 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: a story that is almost unbelievable. I do want to 135 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: point out, however, that another reason I always loved October 136 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: and Halloween, well it's the month of my birthday. My 137 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: birthday is October twenty fifth, so I guess I always 138 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of associated the fun and celebration with friends and 139 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: family around my birthday with all of the Halloween decorp 140 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: And so let me tell you something. If you would 141 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: like to do something nice for me for my birthday, 142 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: and if you love this show and you just want 143 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: me to keep doing it, well all you have to 144 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: do is go to joshuaplauren dot com. 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Warren dot com go to the Curiosity Shop, 164 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: and also on the homepage, please sign up for my 165 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: free e newsletter for some free instant digital gifts. I 166 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: am Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to Strange 167 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paraanormal 168 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 169 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 170 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: am Para Noormal Podcast Network. I am your host, the 171 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole 172 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 173 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 174 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Agia dotto zoome. And before I get into the spooky stuff, 175 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: I recently asked all of you to pray for my 176 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: and Lauren's little Chihuahua slash schupacabra named Lama, who is 177 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: suffering from mouth cancer. And I am thrilled to report 178 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: to you that Lama is still with us. She is 179 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: still bright eyed, she is still playful, she is still 180 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: eating voraciously, and I mean, it's it's really, it's really amazing. 181 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: And so many of you have been sending in prayers 182 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: and well wishes, and I think it's working. And listen, 183 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: this is an old dog and we know that we 184 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: cannot keep her around forever, but she is getting the 185 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: best care that money can buy and as much love 186 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: as possible, and so we want her to be with 187 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: us as long as as long as feasibly possible, and 188 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: as long as she's comfortable. We want to keep her 189 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: energy around. And I don't think that at this point 190 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: she would be doing so well as she is without 191 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: your prayers and support and manifestations. And a lot of 192 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: you have gone and bought things from the Curiosity Shop 193 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: to help pay bills, because the bills are ridiculous when 194 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: it comes to treating a dog with cancer. So I'm 195 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: just so happy to report that, and please keep doing 196 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: it it's just been a Lauren, and I are so 197 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: deeply grateful. You have no idea, so thank you, thank you. 198 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Helen's Bridge. You know, it's 199 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: one thing when you hear about a haunted place and 200 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: someone tells you a story about it, or even if 201 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: you go on a website and you see pictures of it, 202 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: even if you see it on TV. There's a difference 203 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: between that and going to one of these places late 204 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: at night, especially if you are by yourself. There is 205 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: no substitute for that personal sensation you get, especially when 206 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: you're under something like this ancient, old haunted bridge up 207 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: in the mountains with nobody else around, no houses around, nothing. 208 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't see any sign of other people 209 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: up there under Helen's Bridge when you're standing there, craning 210 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: your neck back, looking up at this old arcs structure. 211 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're interested in whether or not 212 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: the story of Helen, the traditional story is true, well 213 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: you know you can go read what I wrote about 214 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: all that in my book Haunted Ashville. I don't have 215 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: time to dig into it. That would be a whole show, frankly, 216 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: but regardless of whether or not that story is true. 217 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: There has been death and tragedy associated with that castle 218 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and that bridge. One of the owner's wives did die 219 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: in a fire. There was a caretaker up there who 220 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: committed suicide back in the day. He killed himself, he 221 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: shot himself in the head. I mean, there is there 222 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: is death associated with this spot, and that's historically provable. 223 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: And one of the stories about this old creepy bridge 224 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: up in the mountains is that and it's not a 225 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: very big bridge, I mean it's you're talking about a 226 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: road that's just wide enough for two cars to drive 227 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: past each other, and then this through this ravine, and 228 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: then up above, you know, you have this arch bridge 229 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: that was i think originally just used to bring cattle 230 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: back and forth across that little canyon. And so one 231 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: of the stories is that if you go up there 232 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: under the bridge and you say out loud, Helen, come forth, 233 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: three times, then something will happen. Either she will appear, 234 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: or if you're in a car, your car will malfunction. 235 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: In some cases they say that she appears and she 236 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: will actually put her hand on your car and burn 237 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: her handprint into the finish. So there are all these 238 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: different things that are supposed to happen. And this story, 239 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's been around as long as anybody can remember. 240 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: Who knows when it started. We haven't been able to 241 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: pinpoint the exact origin. It had to be sometime since 242 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine. So and in fact, I have a 243 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: friend I won't give his name out because he might 244 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: not appreciate he now, he probably wouldn't want me to 245 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: give his name. I have a good friend who grew 246 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: up in the area and Helen's Bridge is one of 247 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: those places where a lot of kids go to hang 248 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: out because there's not much else to do, and they 249 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: go up there and they try to rile up Helen. 250 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: It also has kind of a lover's lane, kind of 251 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 1: a lure to it. And so one night, and I 252 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: think this was probably back in the nineteen eighties, my 253 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: buddy and some of his friends went up to Helen's 254 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: Bridge about one or two o'clock in the morning, nobody 255 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: else around. They climbed up this. Well, there's there. You're 256 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: not really supposed to walk on the bridge these days. 257 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cool back then or not, 258 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: but it's and it is being historically preserved now. But anyway, 259 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: you kind of like half walk, half climb up this 260 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: trail and you can get up there to the bridge. 261 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: And so he and his friends they go out onto 262 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: the bridge, and they didn't believe in ghosts, and so 263 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: they're taunting her, and one of this guy, who's a 264 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, he says, I'm not proud of this, 265 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: but he started calling her insulting names, saying, you're not 266 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: gonna show up, you're not real, blah blah blah, you know, 267 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: And of course nothing was happening, and so finally, as 268 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: his ultimate display of disrespect, to see if he could 269 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: rile up the spirits, he decides to relieve himself on 270 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: top of the bridge, and as soon as he did this, 271 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: he got a horrible, sharp, searing pain in his lower 272 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: abdomen and he literally doubled over and fell to the 273 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: ground in his own you know what, and ended up 274 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: having to be rushed to the hospital where he had 275 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: this enormous kidney stone that had been just percolating in 276 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: there for who knows how long, And he said that 277 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: it was the worst pain he'd ever felt, and it 278 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: was absolutely astounding that as soon as he did that 279 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: act on the bridge boomed, that thing hit him and 280 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: he did not think he was a coincidence, and he said, 281 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: never again will he ever insult the spirit of Helen 282 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: on Helen's Bridge. So there are lots of stories that 283 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: just about everybody has some kind of a Helen's Bridge story. 284 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: Who grew up in the area, all right, So on 285 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: one October night, and I'm thinking at this point in time, 286 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: i was in my late teens. I don't remember for sure, 287 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: but I was by myself. I was driving a Chevy Lumina, 288 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: and I had been in downtown Asheville doing something. I 289 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: was meeting with somebody. I don't remember exactly what it was, 290 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: but I would make sort of a habit back then 291 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: of if I happened to be out by myself late 292 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: at night, I would take a little detour and I 293 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: would go home by way of Helen's Bridge because I 294 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: just liked driving under that bridge, and I thought maybe 295 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I'll see something. So on this chilly October night, with 296 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: the leaves crackling and a full moon all the works, 297 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm thinking this was. You know, it's pretty late, it 298 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: might have been around like, you know, midnight. I was 299 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: heading home and I say, this is a perfect night 300 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: to go up and see Helen's Bridge. No other car 301 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: was around. I didn't pass anybody as I wound all 302 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the way up Bowcatcher Mountain, and then I got around, 303 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: I rounded the bend, and there it was, in all 304 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: of its glory, the spooky Helen's Bridge. And so I 305 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: eased up underneath the bridge, and I rolled down my 306 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: window and I leaned out and I said, Helen, come forth, Helen, 307 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: come forth, Helen come forth. And I sat there for 308 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: a moment and I didn't see anything, and I figured, oh, well, 309 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: just you know, just another night where I'm seeing this 310 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: is nothing but an urban legend. Then I pull out 311 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: from under the bridge, and almost immediately, the lights inside 312 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: my car start flickering and dimming, and I start hearing 313 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: weird noises, and I'm like, what is going on? And 314 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm driving on these windy roads, and all of a 315 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: sudden my car is dead. All right. I had just 316 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: enough momentum as I was going down this incline to 317 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: be able to get the car into the entrance of 318 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: a driveway, this really secluded driveway, and I thought, boy, 319 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: I hope somebody doesn't come out of here with a 320 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: gun and think that you know, who's this weirdo with this, 321 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: So I just I was able to actually get out 322 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: and continue sort of pushing my car, and I was 323 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: able to get it. Fortunately, this driveway had a wide 324 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: enough mouth so that I could get the car there. 325 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Now this, I didn't have a cell phone back in 326 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: these days. So now here I am late at night, 327 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: all by myself in October, on this dark mountain, and 328 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: my car is dead as a door naill. I think 329 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: that's what they said about I think that's what uh 330 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: Dickon said about Jacob Marley. Dad is a door nill, 331 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: And I think, well, I certainly am not going to 332 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: walk up to somebody's house right now and knock on 333 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: the door. So my only option is to walk back 334 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: the direction I came from, go underneath Helen's Bridge on foot, 335 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: and then walk all the way down bow Catcher Mountain. 336 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: There was a bus station at the bottom, and from 337 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: there I'd have to either use a phone at the 338 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: bus station or across the road and use a phone 339 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: at a store across the road. So I had quite 340 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: a journey ahead of me. When we come back, I 341 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: will tell you what that walk down was like. But 342 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: that is far from the end of my spooky stories 343 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: about Helen's Bridge. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to 344 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 345 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be back after these 346 00:25:31,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things of the iHeartRadio 347 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am 348 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: your host, Joshua pee Wara, and this is the show 349 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: where the unusual becomes usual. I estimated it would take me, 350 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: maybe even though I was going downhill thirty forty five minutes, 351 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: to walk all the way down this mountain by myself. 352 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: I certainly was not going to hitchhike if anybody came along. 353 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: This is bad enough already, and work my way down, 354 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: hopefully to the bus station where I could make a 355 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: phone call and get some help, get a tow truck 356 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: or whatever and so so here And at this point 357 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: there's all this fog that's starting to set in. I'm 358 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: telling you you could not have created a better environment 359 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: for a horror movie. Foggy, chilly October night, full moon. 360 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Here I am walking all by myself. The leaves are 361 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: crunching and crackling because the leaves are off the trees. 362 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: They're halfway on, halfway off. Spooky is an understatement. So 363 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: here I now am approaching Helen's Bridge again, this time 364 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: from the opposite side on foot, and I'm thinking, oh boy, 365 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: if anybody, if you're ever going to see Helen, this 366 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: has got to be the time. So as I passed 367 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: under the bridge, I didn't even stop and try to 368 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: call her forth. At this point, I was too rattled. 369 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out of there and get 370 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: some help, you know, I felt completely helpless. And right 371 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: as I okay, I passed under the bridge, and as 372 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: soon as you pass under the bridge, then I had 373 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: to take a right to go down the mountain. And 374 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: as soon as I did that, I heard behind me footsteps. 375 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: It almost sounded like somebody running in my direction. And 376 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I turned around and I looked back under the bridge, 377 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't see anything, but I heard getting closer, 378 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: and then I saw a shadow start to move, and 379 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: at that point I turned and I kept going down 380 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: the mountain, and at a certain point I stopped, and 381 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: I turned around and looked back, and I was waiting 382 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: to see who this person was that was going to 383 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: come out, but it was silent nobody ever appeared. So 384 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: then I turned and I started walking down, and then 385 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: here are the footsteps that get by me, crunching the leaves. 386 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: And I stopped, and I turned around, looked back fully 387 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: expecting to see somebody. Nobody there. This point, my heart 388 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: is racing. I walked even further down, and then there 389 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: they were again, the footsteps crunching in the leaves. And 390 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I turned around and looked up at the bridge, and 391 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: there standing under the bridge was a dark form, a 392 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: silhouette of a person. And I just stood there and 393 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I looked at the silhouette and it stood motionless, very 394 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: clearly visible in the moonlight. Plus there was a street 395 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: light that was not too far from that bridge. And 396 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: I stand there and I see this figure with the 397 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: fog kind of swirling around it and seething at the base, 398 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: and it was standing there looking down at me, and 399 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: I was looking up at it. And at that point 400 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: I said, screw this, I'm out of here, and I 401 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: ran down that mountain and never looked back. And I 402 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: ran all the way down till I got to that 403 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: bus station. The bus station was closed. Actually, I don't 404 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: know why. It's no longer even in business. So maybe 405 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: they were going out of business at the time. I 406 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I ran up to the phone. It was 407 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: out of service. Yes, again, just like a horror movie. 408 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: So I had to cross the road Tunnel Road, very 409 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: busy road in Nashville, and then I went over to 410 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: I think it was a Walmart at that time. It 411 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: later became an Ingles, But I went over to whatever 412 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: was there at that time, and I got on the phone, 413 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and I don't remember if I had a quarter or 414 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: if I had to call to collect or whatever I did. 415 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: I called my mom and dad and told them what 416 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: was going on, and so they came and rescued me, 417 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: and we made arrangements for my car to be towed 418 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: the next day. And turns out that the alternator had 419 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: died and it was just conked right out after I 420 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: went under the bridge saying Helen, come forth. Now that 421 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: is a true story. Now you talk about timing, talk 422 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: about timing. Was that the ghost of Helen or some 423 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: other spirit? I don't know, but sometimes you just don't 424 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: want to stick around to find out. Yes, I'm a 425 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: ghost hunter, but you know that could have been somebody 426 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: who was there to kill me. I don't know who 427 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: it was, but that happened, and you know it's just well, 428 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you the more freaky story. A few 429 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: years after that, or not too long after that, I 430 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: ended up in college. Okay. I went to UNCA, the 431 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: University of North Carolina at Asheville, And in my first 432 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: year I was studying philosophy. That was my favorite class, 433 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: and my professor there was just a brilliant guy, and 434 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: we really hit it off and we actually became friends 435 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: outside of class. Taking philosophy opened my eyes up in 436 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and so sometimes after class 437 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I would go to his office and we would sit 438 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: down and we would just continue having conversations, and he 439 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: would loan me books and videos, and I mean he 440 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: was actually very fascinated in the paranormal and the spiritual 441 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: world and all that. And we were coming up on 442 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: Christmas break, and I went to his office one day 443 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: and he loaned me a bunch of books and videos 444 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: about paranormal stuff to watch and enjoy over Christmas break. 445 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: And when the break was over, I went back to 446 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: his office to return these materials, and his office was closed, 447 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: and then as I was about to leave, a professor 448 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: stepped out of an adjacent office, and he said, are 449 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: you looking for doctor? His name was doctor Howard. He said, 450 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: are you looking for doctor Howard? I said yes, and 451 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: he said, well, I'm sorry to tell you doctor Howard 452 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: is dead. He has passed away. And I said what, 453 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, it was just one of those moments 454 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: where the jaw hits the floor, you know, And I 455 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: said what happened? And the guy says, well, we're not sure, 456 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: but there was a gun involved. Well, it turns out 457 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: that my philosophy professor, who had a PhD from Duke University, 458 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: had he had committed suicide. He shot himself in the 459 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: head with a pistol during the Christmas vacation. And I 460 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: was just terribly distraught and grief stricken for a long time. 461 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that really hit me hard. And then, much 462 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: to my shock, not long after that, maybe like a 463 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: week after that, I got a phone call out of 464 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: the blue, and it was from his widow, and she 465 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: told me that doctor Howard would talk about me with 466 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: her and that she knew that I was investigating strange 467 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: and paranormal phenomena and she asked me if I would 468 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: come to the house to see if I could facilitate 469 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: contact with his spirit. I couldn't believe it, so I said, yeah, absolutely, 470 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: and you know, this is still very early in my career, 471 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: so to speak. So I got together with my friend 472 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: Mark L. Spinnett, who he's a great investigator. In fact, 473 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I interviewed him on my old podcast, Joshua Pee Warren Daily. 474 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: If you go to Joshua Pee Warren Daily and do 475 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: a search, and this is a podcast I did before 476 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: I started doing strange things, if you search for oh, 477 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: let me see, I have too many notes here, Okay, 478 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: go to the Joshua Pee Warren Daily from November twentieth 479 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, and it's called a Rare Call with 480 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: paranormal investigator Mark Ellis Spinnett where we talk about spirits, synchronicity, 481 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: alien implants and more. You'll realize who Mark is. So 482 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: Mark and I decided to get together and go to 483 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: this house. And I had no idea where he lived. 484 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: And guess what, Doctor Howard lived in a house on 485 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: Boketcher Mountain right there, right down the side of the 486 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: mountain from Helen's Bridge. Yeah. I could not believe it, 487 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: could not believe it. So Mark and I we went 488 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: do the house and was very emotional and we sat 489 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 1: there for an evening with his widow and I'll never 490 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: forget seeing his PhD stained with blood, his philosophy PhD 491 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: stained with blood. And that was the first time I 492 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: think that I was able to take out my instruments 493 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: and actually make communication, interactive communication with a spirit from 494 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: the other side. And I need to keep that communication private. 495 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: It was very personal information that came out that was 496 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: extremely meaningful to his widow. Basically, they had gotten into 497 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: a big fight which upset him enough to do this, 498 00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: or was the straw that broke the camel's back. And 499 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: that was an eye opening night for me to see 500 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: that I had believed that we had communicated with the 501 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: spirit of a deceased person with the aid of some technology. 502 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: And I wish I could tell you more, but I 503 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: think I've said enough about that. And it's really just 504 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: amazing that that was right there on Billketcher Mountain next 505 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: to Helen's bridge. I can't believe this show is almost 506 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: over already. We only have one more segment when we 507 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: come back. I'm not sure if I'm going to have 508 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: time for listener emails or not. I might have lied 509 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: to you on that because I have some other stuff 510 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: that I want to tell you that you're gonna enjoy. 511 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 512 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, 513 00:37:52,560 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to the 514 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the 515 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I 516 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua P. Warren, and I meant to 517 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: tell you this before, but it was one of those 518 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: things where I ran out of time. I recently did 519 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: a podcast about the trip that my family and I 520 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 1: took to Colorado and explored the Rockies, and I told 521 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: you that before that trip, I set up an apex 522 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: machine to protect us all and to keep us all 523 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: healthy and to make sure the trip flowed smoothly and 524 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff, and I was very 525 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: serious about it. I took a picture of the apex 526 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: machine after it was set up, and then I would 527 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: look at that picture occasionally throughout the trip. And if 528 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: you don't know what the apex machine is, just go 529 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: to the apex machine dot com. Theapex machine dot Com. Well, 530 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: here is what I wanted to tell you before, and 531 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: I ran out of time. I had never been to 532 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: downtown Denver, Colorado before, and our very first night, we 533 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: got in late, and so I had already looked at 534 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: some possible late night spots for us to go, eat, eat, 535 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: and go to bed. And this was on a Saturday night, 536 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: so I knew that it was everything was going to 537 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: be really busy. But I picked out this one place 538 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: that looked really good on the internet. I don't want 539 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: to use its name, and that was like, this is 540 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: going to be our go to. So after we got 541 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: checked into the hotel, we're talking to myself, Lauren, my 542 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: mom and dad, my sister Jessica, her fiance Andrew. We 543 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: all piled into an Uber very friendly Uber driver, and 544 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: he took us over to this place that I had 545 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: decided we were going to eat at. And when we 546 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: got over there, it really just looked a little too raucous. 547 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: It looked too packed, and it looked like it might 548 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: be too noisy. And so I said, okay, Plan B, 549 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: because I you know, I had two or three options 550 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: lined up, and I said, yeah, let's not go to 551 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: that place instead, let's try out this other place. And 552 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: that's how we ended up at this spot called the 553 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: British Bulldog, where we walked in and ate and had 554 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: a great time. Well, the rest of the trip went 555 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: smooth asward, and then when we got when we all 556 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: got back home, they went to North Carolina, Lauren and 557 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: I came back here to Vegas. When everybody got back home, 558 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, like a day or two later, 559 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: I was looking at the news and I saw Denver 560 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: in the headlines, and I found out, to my shock 561 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: that that night, that night meant I'm talking like minutes 562 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: after we got into our uber and left, there was 563 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: a shooting on that street, right in front of the 564 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: restaurant that we were originally going to go to. And 565 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't have the new story in front of me, 566 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: but I'm I think multiple people were shot, and I 567 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: don't I can't recall if anybody died or not, but 568 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: multiple people were shot. There was there was a young 569 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: woman who was trying to get into someplace and they 570 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: turned her down for some reason, and she just got 571 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: mad and took out a gun and just started shooting 572 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: and firing bullets down the street. And if we had 573 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: ended up at that restaurant, that we had originally intended 574 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: to go to. There is an excellent chance that we 575 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: would have been standing out on that street waiting for 576 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: an uber when that woman started shooting that gun and 577 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: shot those people. An excellent chance. So you know, I 578 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: tell you this because I know sometimes you might try 579 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: to manifest things. You say, I wanted to manifest some 580 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: good luck, good fortune, nothing happened. This doesn't work. Well, 581 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: I get your point, but I want you to also 582 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: realize that sometimes this you doing that may have prevented 583 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: something from happening to you that was really, really bad. 584 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: So always keep that in the back of your mind. 585 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: The other thing I want to also tell you about 586 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: this Denver thing is that I mentioned before that I 587 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: went into this oddity shop called the Learned Lemur, and 588 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: I found this picture of Jesus and he's on his 589 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: knees and he's praying. I guess he's at the garden 590 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: and the power of the heavens is beaming down on him. 591 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: And it's one of these like old fashion three D pictures, 592 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: and Lauren and I collect those and we use them 593 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: to decorate parts of our house. And it had this big, 594 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: heavy plaster frame on it, and so I bought it, 595 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: but only because they agreed to ship it to me 596 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. Because it wasn't gonna I only 597 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: had carry on. I didn't check baggage and all that. 598 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: So when we got home, this guy, who I guess 599 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: is the owner of the place, he called me and 600 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: he says, I got some bad news. He said, we 601 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: had this picture of this three D picture of Jesus 602 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: on this shelf, and this shelf has been holding all 603 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: of our stuff for three years, but today decided to 604 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: collapse and your picture fell and broke all the pieces 605 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: this frame did. So he says, you know, how do 606 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: you want me to handle this? He goes, you know, 607 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: I can give you a discount and just ship you 608 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: the picture, or I can ship you the picture with 609 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: the pieces of the frame. And I said, well, it's 610 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: really weird. I said no, just you know, send us 611 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: the picture with the pieces of the frame. Maybe we 612 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: can put it back together. So he said okay, and 613 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: he says, and I'm going to, you know, give you 614 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: a refund on your credit card, partial refund. I said, great, 615 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: thank you. So then days and days and days go 616 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: by and this thing never arrives. So I called him 617 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: back and I said, yeah, I'm just wondering, you know, 618 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: if I should have received this picture by now. And 619 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: he goes, huh, you don't have it yet. No, he goes, oh, boy, 620 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: let me see what's going on. So he went and 621 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: he checked FedEx. He had sent it with FedEx, and 622 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: he goes, this is really weird. He says, it's showing 623 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: that it's still at the FedEx depot where I dropped 624 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: it off. I don't understand this, okay, So he goes, 625 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: let me check on this and I'll get back to you. 626 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: So then a few days later he calls and leaves 627 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: a message and he said, you may have a cursed 628 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: object here. He said, somehow, after I dropped this thing 629 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: off at the FedEx, the label got torn off of it, 630 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: and nobody knew what it was, and they had it 631 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: in the corner. But fortunately I was able to describe 632 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: it to them and they opened it and confirm it 633 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: was the and he goes, so they relabeled it and 634 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: now it's being shipped to you, and he goes, and 635 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't curse your house. So yesterday it 636 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: arrived and so we have the plaster frame and pieces 637 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be able to 638 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: protect to preserve that or not. But we have the 639 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: picture of Jesus, and look, I don't think it's a curse. 640 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: I just think there's something very powerful and wonderful and 641 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: synchronistic of about this, this image that I'm going to 642 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: be looking at from now on. But I'll keep you 643 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: updated because that's not the only odd thing that's come 644 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 1: into my house lately. I also, I'm very particular about 645 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: accepting things that people send me. But I have a 646 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: good friend I've known for a long long time, and 647 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: he sent me the most amazing haunted doll that anybody 648 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: has ever sent me. I can from what I can tell, 649 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: this is one of a kind. It's something really special, 650 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: and I'm not ready to tell you more about it, 651 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: but I would keep something like this more than at 652 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: arm's length away. But this one, Lauren and I love 653 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: so much. It's sitting in our living room right now, 654 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a very complete story for 655 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: you about that in the near future. I'm studying this 656 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: doll right now. So there is so much going on, 657 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: so much going on, all right, So let me try 658 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: to squeeze in at least one email, but hey, you 659 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: know the good thing about this show is yes, I 660 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: run out of time, but there's always next week's show. 661 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: Here's an email that came in from Nancy in Houston, Texas, 662 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: and she said, Joshua, I have to share my daughter's 663 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: successes with the successful Employment sigil. After nine months of 664 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: being out of work, she used the sigil as her 665 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: screensaver on her phone. Within the week, she obtained her 666 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: dream job. I also use the SIGEL to look for 667 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: employment and had several offers within a few weeks. I 668 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: am a true believer in these sigels. Keep up the 669 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: good work. I truly enjoy your podcast and sigils and 670 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: the Curiosity Shop items. Sincerely, Nancy, Houston, Texas. Well, thank 671 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: you so much, Nancy. That is a really nice email 672 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: and I am just delighted that you have had success 673 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: with that. And I want to remind everybody listening that 674 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: if you go to thesigitl lab dot com, sigitl is 675 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: spelled s I g i L. If you go to 676 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: thesigil lab dot com right now, we are accepting requests 677 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: for personalized sigils. But even if you don't want to 678 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: buy a personalized sigel. Just scroll down to the bottom 679 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: and you're going to find a brand new luck and 680 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: money sigitl that has the luck it's it's a luck 681 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: sigitl that we created and it's combined with the money sigitl. 682 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: You have different versions of it. And then there's a 683 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: section that says for more info on parasigmatic sigils, click here, 684 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: and if you do that, you'll find a bunch of 685 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: other free sigils, including the employment sigil that Nancy wrote about. 686 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: And look, the great thing about these sigils is all 687 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: you have to do is just look at them as 688 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: often as possible throughout the day. That's it, all right, 689 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: my friends, relax, take a deep breath. Here we go. 690 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: It's the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition 691 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. Warren. 692 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: Plus visit joshuapwarren dot com to sign up for my 693 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: free e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and 694 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,479 Speaker 1: check out the cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop all 695 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: at joshuapwarren dot com. I have a fun one lined 696 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: up for you next time, I promise, So please tell 697 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: all your friends to subscribe to this show and to 698 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, Thank 699 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: you for your interest and support. Thank you for Day Curious, 700 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: and I will talk to you again soon. 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