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Speaker 1: NFL training camp here next month, taking care of you

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Speaker 1: through the end of the NBA season and into the

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Speaker 1: But now we've got to get caught up on the series.

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Speaker 1: Joining me as always Brandon Anderson, the props master, Rahem Palmer.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a nickname for him yet. I called

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Speaker 1: him like the start kid once and then I realized

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Speaker 1: he's like thirty five. It's fine, it's fine. I need

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Speaker 1: to get more biographical information for you. Give people nicknames. Brandon,

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Speaker 1: how are.

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Speaker 4: You doing doing good?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've been asking for years for parody in

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Speaker 5: the NBA and the wide open playoff race, and man,

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Speaker 5: do we have it. I don't think this is exactly

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Speaker 5: But it is Monday. We could by Thursday night we

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Speaker 5: could be down to four teams, and at this moment

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Speaker 5: in time, right now, every single team in the NBA

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Speaker 5: is at plus juice just to make the finals. We

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Speaker 5: don't even have a favorite team to make the finals,

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Speaker 5: let alone a winner.

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Speaker 4: We have no idea. What's happening. It's wild this fun.

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Speaker 1: Rahiem, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean these playoffs has really been really,

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Speaker 6: really interesting.

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Speaker 3: We've had so many changes in turns.

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Speaker 6: I mean, one minute you think the Nets are on

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Speaker 6: the path to sweeping the Bucks, and in the next

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Speaker 3: You can't call things for sure. Just excited.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's start by wrapping up the one series

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Speaker 1: that is done in the NBA semi finals. If heix Suns,

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Speaker 1: what the Denver Nuggets four to oh? I picked the Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: So I blamed the Portland trail Blizers is who I

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Speaker 1: So our producer has literally suggested that we just switched

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Speaker 1: And it's not because I get a bunch of stuff, right, that's.

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Speaker 5: This absolutely is a referendum on the Blazers. This is

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Speaker 5: exactly what I worried about coming into this series. The

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Speaker 5: all year long, we get data across eighty two this year,

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Speaker 5: This takes nothing away from the Nuggets. Credit to Denver

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Speaker 5: This is no discredit to Nikola Jokic. He was awesome.

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Speaker 5: He had a great playoffs. He had a great playoff

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Speaker 5: They're healthy, they're deep, they're playing together, they're making the

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 5: You talked on Twitter about their team defense doesn't really

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Speaker 5: these are deep teams that have a bunch of good players,

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Speaker 5: Utah and to Phoenix. This extra week off is huge too,

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Speaker 5: Chris Paul. You know, we can talk about the injuries.

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Speaker 5: We were one game into the playoffs and we like

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Speaker 5: can memory stay healthy. I literally said that on this

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Speaker 5: The Suns are in really good shape right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this, I think don't go too far

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of my pick on Denver was based

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Speaker 1: like they're just they were done. Like this team went

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Speaker 1: in them getting a game. And the miss PJ Doser,

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Speaker 1: who honestly PJ Doser would have been until point. Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of this I want to stress is the

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Speaker 1: were not in a position to excel in this series.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think that the gap between even this

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Speaker 1: well because they were exhausted and they were done, Like

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Speaker 6: I think the big thing is also they're highly dependent

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Speaker 6: he had backspasms. We all know that he got held out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he basically fell in the draft due to

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Speaker 6: I mean you're kind of in trouble.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Game one was.

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Speaker 6: Really telling because the Nuggets absolutely dominated the whole They

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Speaker 1: Which has not always worked out great for his teams? Rahim?

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Speaker 6: I think the big thing is that, for one, they

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Speaker 1: I don't like to overreact to these things. I do

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Speaker 5: obviously going to play tonight. He's questionable, but he has

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Speaker 5: They don't have a matchup for him. Danny Green's absence

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that they're drawing dead to win a game.

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Speaker 4: We saw them.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how they can win three the way

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Speaker 5: Since Davis was out yesterday Sons were plus one ninety

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Speaker 6: I actually took the Sixers after Game one to win

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Speaker 5: What do we think about the plus two hundred to

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Speaker 5: I've been the least Philadelphia backer of the three. I

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Speaker 4: That still is how I would feel.

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Speaker 5: health advantage because either one of those teams, the Bucks

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00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: are still missing a starter for sure, the Nets might

435
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 5: be missing two of their guys at least.

436
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 4: For part of the series.

437
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: If they get there at plus two hundred, like I'm

438
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: starting to look and think, man, that looks like a

439
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 5: pretty good price for Philadelphia to win the East.

440
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: Right now, Let's not be like the Bucks are going

441
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: to miss a starter, Like if we're gonna say that

442
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: Dante DiVincenzo is important, then we have to we have

443
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 1: to at least mention like Danny Green is important.

444
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 5: Sure, but but Daniel will be back though. I think

445
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 5: by next week and Divincenzo's out like that, It's it's

446
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: not nothing, it's it's something.

447
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Look the plus two hundred, I think

448
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: the imply to odds give you value, Like there's clearly

449
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: a better chance that there's a better than thirty three

450
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: percent chance that the Sixers win the Eastern Conference. I

451
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: will go ahead and tell you I am willing to

452
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: be wrong on the Sixers, Like I'm just you have

453
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: to at some point, I think in these things, like

454
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 1: accept that there are things that you're just like, if

455
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: this happens, I can live with it. Yeah, I don't

456
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: buy it. I don't uh. If the Nets win this series,

457
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: it's because at least Kyrie or James Harden are back.

458
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: We agree on that. Yes, if one of the two

459
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: is back, I don't think the Sixers can win. If

460
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks get past this. I actually don't like that

461
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 1: it all for Philly. Yeah, Like I don't like that matchup,

462
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: and here's a lot of it and we'll talk well

463
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Bucks nets in a little bit. But

464
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: so for me, I don't think that you're wrong that

465
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: there's imply value and you've been really sharp on this stuff,

466
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: so like it makes me think, like maybe this is

467
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: the move is just to get on the Sixers, now,

468
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: you know. But I'll say this, if you're going to

469
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: go that far, Brandon, why not just go for the title?

470
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

471
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 5: Well, and I thought about that, but I think that

472
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: the answer is the same answer that you're giving, which

473
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: is I have not put my bet on the plus

474
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 5: two hundred because at the end of the day, I

475
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 5: still don't trust the Sixers and I still don't totally

476
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: trust Embiid. Like that that's not like I why not

477
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 5: play the title is because now Embiid has to hold

478
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: up for a whole month more games, and like he

479
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 5: sure looks healthier right now, but that need is not

480
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 5: exactly going to get magically better. So it's just the

481
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 5: longer that you bet them out, the more you have

482
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: to wait for them to stay healthy.

483
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Speaker 4: In addition to me and not.

484
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 5: Really believing that they have solved the three is greater

485
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: than two problem, that they have the offensive versatility that

486
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 5: they can beat these top teams. So I appreciate you

487
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 5: not talking me into it because I agree. I think

488
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 5: that there is implied value on what the odds ought

489
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 5: to be. I still don't know that I trust them

490
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: enough to bet it.

491
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Speaker 1: I'll also say this, look and Meid's gonna score and

492
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: do his thing versus anybody. His his mid range shepherd

493
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: continue to just be wet, and that's going to give

494
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: them a chance versus anybody. Like it's liquid silk right now,

495
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: which is really impressive that it's kept up after the

496
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: knee injury. That's a credit to the work that he's

497
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Speaker 1: putting on it. And I mean, even at the point

498
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: where I don't expect it to regress this season, I

499
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: think next season. Yeah. Probably. That's how mid range jumpers

500
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: usually go, is you just most players don't stay at

501
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Speaker 1: forty nine percent or wherever he's at. I can't remember

502
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: the exact number, but as high as he is, he's

503
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: been one of the most efficient mid range shooters in

504
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: the league this season, and they just don't it's very

505
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 1: rare that they stay at that level, and even if

506
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: you drop down to like five percentage points, it's a

507
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: big dip in terms of your points per possession mark

508
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: on all those shots. He will cook whoever he's up against.

509
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: Joelle Embiid finished second MVP, was deserving of the MVP.

510
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I made the case for Yokic. I'm totally good with

511
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: Yokic winning, but I think MBI was absolutely good enough

512
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: to win the award this season, and he will cook

513
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: whoever it is. He will dominate whoever he is because

514
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: he's a great player. But it's just about degrees and

515
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: I everyone kind of liked the Capella matchup. I don't

516
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: real understand why Coppel is a lot like he's a

517
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: lob disruptor. He's good in switching, like that's his whole thing.

518
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: That's why the Rockets groomed him was they knew that

519
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: he could switch and so his versatility. He's not a bruiser,

520
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: He's not this big force that's going to body you, right.

521
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: I think Zubac has a better chance against that. I

522
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: think Gobert obviously has a much better chance against that,

523
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: and I think DeAndre Aiden has a better chance against

524
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Speaker 1: that those three guys have a better chance. I like

525
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez in that counter, don't don't feel as good

526
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: about Jordan currently had the rotation entirely. But you know,

527
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: if the nets Arena win, is gonna be a firepower. So,

528
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: like I said, if the Sixers win, which I don't

529
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: think is insane, Like I'm not like that's not gonna happen.

530
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing it. I'm just saying I can't have

531
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: a position on every single team. I've tried, don't get

532
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: me wrong, and my future is positioning. I've tried, but

533
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm willing to be wrong on the Sixers going forward.

534
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about let's go to the West and let's

535
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Speaker 1: talk Clippers Jazz. All right, Brandon Anderson, the world's biggest

536
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: Jazz fan. Big game to night, obviously very beginning to night.

537
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: You've got this is Game four. Conley was upgraded to questionable,

538
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you that anytime a guy goes from

539
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: out to questionable, I expect them to play. That's just

540
00:26:52,440 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: been my experience. The problem is it's a hamstring and

541
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: it can read aggravate at any time. Mitchell's not on

542
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: the injury report, so Mitchell should be good to go,

543
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: so this is full strength Jazz again. Theoretically, Clippers are

544
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: five point favorites after four and a half. I think

545
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: in game three fifty as as I talk to you now,

546
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: fifty five percent of the tickets are on the Clippers,

547
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: but fifty two percent of the money is in on

548
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: the Jazz. We have a sharp indicator in our Action

549
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: Network app on Utah Brandon. What are your thoughts on

550
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: this matchup and the game to night?

551
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm out on the Jazz, and I

552
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 5: think it's because you said that the Jazz are theoretically

553
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: at full strength, and I think theoretically is doing a

554
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 5: lot of lifting in that sentence, because I don't think

555
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 5: the Jazz are at full strength. I don't think they're

556
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: going to be tonight. I don't think they're going to

557
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: be again this season. And I don't even mean that

558
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: in the way that like, oh, it's the playoffs. Everyone's

559
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: a little banged up, we're all just trying to pull together.

560
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 5: I just I don't think that the injuries were seeing

561
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell play through, and like you said, I do

562
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 5: think it wouldn't be surprised to see Conley play tonight.

563
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: I think he'll definitely be back soon. But neither one

564
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 5: of those injuries is gonna go away or stop hampering them.

565
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: Both of the injuries are the sort that we've seen

566
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 5: get reaggravated and come up again. That means potentially not

567
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 5: finishing a game that they were starting. That means potentially

568
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 5: missing time again. And my position on the Jazz coming

569
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: into the playoffs is like what I was saying with

570
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: the Suns earlier the seventy two eighty two game thing,

571
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: was just saying, Okay, looking at what we know right now,

572
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: we know this team is good.

573
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: Why.

574
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 5: Why is because the Jazz have had eight very good

575
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: players who play in a very good rotation. They've been

576
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 5: healthy pretty much all year until the Jazz guards got

577
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: a little bit banged up coming to the playoffs. But

578
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: then we're supposed to be healthy until that game one

579
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 5: Mitchell scratch to start things out. But they they were

580
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 5: the healthy team. They were the team that knew its identity,

581
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 5: knew its role, knew what it was.

582
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: That part is still true.

583
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 5: But if I'm looking at the Clippers, we've watched these

584
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: games and the way that Utah has hung in there,

585
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: the way that they've won the games. Is with Donovan

586
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: Mitchell just attacking the rim and Donovan Mitchell doing Donovan

587
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 5: Mitchell things and being a superstar, and if that ankle

588
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: is going to bother him, it was going to stop

589
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: him from doing that quite as much. Then you need

590
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: Mike Conley. Okay, well, so maybe Mike Conley is back?

591
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 5: Well how back? And how much is that hamstering to

592
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: hold up? And is the shot going to be there

593
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: right away or is it going to be a little rusty?

594
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: And Conley is not quite the same attacker that Mitchell is.

595
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: The Guards are who's going to have to win this

596
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: series against the Clippers, and the Guard are the guys

597
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: that I don't trust right now with their injuries. I

598
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: think that the Clippers, now that they've won a game,

599
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: like after Game two, I felt the Clippers were live,

600
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: just like we thought last series the Clippers last series,

601
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: lost the first two games, but felt like a team

602
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: that if you could restart the series at that point,

603
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: I would have taken the Clippers to beat the Mavericks.

604
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: But I couldn't because they're down oh two straight up.

605
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: But if you could start over without the O two deficit,

606
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 5: I would have taken them That's how I felt the

607
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: series watching the Clippers play the Jazz. They're losing the games.

608
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: So I can't say that the Clippers are winning because

609
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 5: they're not. And I can't say that they should be

610
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: favored to win the series because they're losing. But now

611
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: that they've won a game, they only need to win

612
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: a best three out of five. They are the healthier

613
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: team right now. I think I would say the Clippers

614
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: ought to be favored in this series. And right now

615
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: the Jazz are something at plus was it plus or sorry?

616
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 5: The Jazz are minus one nine, the Clippers are plus

617
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: one fifty five. I think that I would come close

618
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: to flipping that, to be honest, and I think that

619
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: the Clippers are not like a heavy favorite by any stretch,

620
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: not quite a minus one ninety buy a new stretch.

621
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: But I am definitely living at taking the Clippers here.

622
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: So for this de finish in six games is plus one. Again,

623
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: we can find when we dig into the numbers. We're

624
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: always going to find some value here when you look

625
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: at the board. Okay, So the Clippers to win this

626
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: series or plus one fifty five for a thirty nine

627
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: percent implied probability. Okay, what's interesting is for this to

628
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: go for this to end in six games either way

629
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: is plus one sixty five. For it to go seven

630
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: is plus one ten. Okay, So they're telling you that

631
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: the most likely outcome of the series right now is

632
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: seven games, that that's the most likely outcome ring Clippers

633
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: plus one and a half is minus one seventy five,

634
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Jazz minus one and a half. So Jazz and six

635
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: is essentially it's plus one forty five. Over five and

636
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: a half games in this series is minus four fifty

637
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: over six and a half is plus one ten. So

638
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of indicators here that are

639
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: saying that they expect the series to go long. And

640
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: if you if you expect the series to go long,

641
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: why is the sharp money coming in on Utah?

642
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: So I think the god, I mean the sharp money

643
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 6: is coming in on Utah. Just from a numbers perspective,

644
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: I mean, the Clippers haven't shown that they're really five

645
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: points better than the Jazz to me at home, like

646
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: I would probably put the I mean, I think home

647
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: court advantage in the.

648
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: Playoffs is pretty big, but five points is a lot.

649
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: So I mean, I understand, you know, numbers, guys, coming

650
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 6: in and saying, hey, you know what, I'm going to

651
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 6: take the five with the Jazz. And then when you

652
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: look at the last game, this was only like the

653
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 6: fifth time in which Paul George and Kawhi Leonard have

654
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 6: both scored thirty points. And then in addition to them

655
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: scoring thirty points together, they both had five assists and

656
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: the Clippers shot.

657
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: Over fifty percent from three.

658
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 6: So I can see how some people will come in

659
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: and say, hey, that's an anomaly. But when I look

660
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 6: at this matchup, I think Todd Litle has really found

661
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 6: the right adjustments. I think the chess match coming into

662
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 6: this series was can the Clippers play small against Gobert?

663
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 6: And they proved they can do it at least me

664
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: at home, as long as their guys are hitting shots,

665
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: and we all know that role players hit shots when

666
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: they're at home.

667
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: I think for I agree with Brandon on this. I

668
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: think the Clippers have the edge.

669
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: I felt that coming in, but I played the Jazz

670
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 6: in Game one based on the Clippers coming golf of

671
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: their seven game series, and I think that put them

672
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 6: at a little disadvantage. But right now, without Mike Conley,

673
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 6: you have the Clippers. They've really adjusted to picking up

674
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 6: picking up Mitchell early and you know, really putting pressure

675
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 6: on him. And they don't really have a lot of

676
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 6: playmakers outside of out of him and Conley, so these

677
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 6: guys are just gonna have to like really create those shots,

678
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 6: and I just think it's tough. So I think Paul

679
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 6: George has really been having a great series. He hasn't

680
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: really shot well until Game three, but he's being aggressive,

681
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 6: he's getting to the paint. I think Tyleru, like, I

682
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 6: really love what Tyleru has done. I think he's been

683
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 6: such a huge upgrade over Doc Rivers. He's made some misstakes,

684
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 6: but the fact that now he's not playing Zubac on

685
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 6: the court at the at the same time as Mitchell.

686
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: I just think that the Clippers.

687
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 6: Are going to win tonight and this will probably be

688
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 6: a long series, but I think they have the ads

689
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: just because going forward KWI and PG they seem to

690
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 6: have found something.

691
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: So we mentioned you're good to point out the spread.

692
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: There sixty seven percent of the bets on the money

693
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: line or in on the Clippers, and ninety five percent

694
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: of the money is in of the Clippers at minus.

695
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: It was minus two hundred when you started your answer

696
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: to that question and is minus two ten now, like

697
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: it literally moved, it moved a dime in the time

698
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: that you were talking. There's a big bet that the

699
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Jazz are gonna be able to hang in this game.

700
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: But the money is definitely coming down on the Clippers

701
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: to win the game. And maybe that's like the angle

702
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: to go with.

703
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 6: See I don't I don't necessarily agree with that because

704
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: if you look at the playoffs this year, teams who

705
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: have covered have won. I mean teams who have won

706
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 6: have have covered for the most part. And then I

707
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 6: mean favorites in the NBA calls this year just hit

708
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 6: in an outstanding rate. So I think if you're gonna

709
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 6: lay the money line, just go go late to spread.

710
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 5: Well. The thing too with the Clippers is like it's

711
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: not like we really trust this team to grind out

712
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: these close wins. Like I know that that's the rep

713
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: that we give Kawhi, but we're gonna get down to

714
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: a close game. And then like, oh, like if you

715
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: trust the Clippers to win but not cover, then we

716
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: think that they're going to win like a two or

717
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: three point game, And like, so what so Marcus Morris

718
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: is gonna hit the big shots at the end, So

719
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: Paul George is gonna be clutched down the stretch like that.

720
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: That's not the bet I want to be making. I

721
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: would much rather bet on Oh yeah, the Clippers made

722
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 5: a lot of shots all game long, because we've seen

723
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: them and they do that. Oh yeah, the Jazz went

724
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 5: cold a while on their threes, and Mitchell couldn't quite

725
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 5: attack and they couldn't come up with enough offense. Like

726
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 5: it's easy for me to see the avenue where the

727
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: Clippers just like, like, win a big one and don't

728
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 5: have to sweat it out late because we've seen what

729
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 5: happens when Utah's offense can go cold, and we know

730
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: how hot the Clippers can get when the shots are falling.

731
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: I said, coming into.

732
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: The series, I thought that the Clippers would outscore the

733
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: Jazz in the series but lose in six. I thought

734
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: that when the Clippers did get wins, that they would

735
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: win big and that the Jazz would win the close ones.

736
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 5: So I have no problem laying the points on this

737
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: one tonight because if you think the Clippers are going

738
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: to win, which I do, then I trust them to

739
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: cover too.

740
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: So Sunday morning, around ten Eastern the Clippers dropped to

741
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: minus one eighty on the money line, and since that time,

742
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: like from that point until the afternoon, it moved from

743
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: minus one eighty back to two hundred. It stayed there

744
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: until this morning, where early in the morning as some

745
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: of the books that were tracking in sports insights, it

746
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: started to get hit.

747
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: And it has.

748
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: It's been between two hundred and two ten. So, I mean,

749
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: it certainly looks like the books. It looks very much

750
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: like the books took that Jazz money early and adjusted

751
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: the money line back, got hit on the money line

752
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: and then moved the money line in the other direction,

753
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: and the you know, and the spread moved slightly up

754
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: to like I will say this, like this money coming

755
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: in on the Utah on the spread and yet the

756
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: line hasn't moved. Do that's in an efficiency or do

757
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: we think that the books are just like that's fine,

758
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: we will take the money on the Jazz.

759
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're willing to take the money on

760
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: the Jazz.

761
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: I think it's but I mean, I mean it's the playoffs,

762
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 6: so a lot of these lines aren't gonna move that

763
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 6: much anyway.

764
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: Sure, So so let's talk big picture on these two

765
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: teams do we agree that? But if you are, if

766
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: your money is at bet MGM or at a place

767
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: where you can cash out, and you have got jazz

768
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 5: futures to win West or to win the finals, do

769
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: we we seem to be saying that we might want

770
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: to cash out of those or get out of those positions.

771
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Matt No, I think I think you hold like you

772
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: have a two to one lead. If the Clippers just

773
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: bone this tonight, if Paul George, as much as I

774
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: adore him as a player, if he has another performance

775
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: that lights up social media, and you know their role

776
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: players don't play well, Kawhi tweaks an ankle, like you

777
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: know this is a war of attrition. The Clippers have

778
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: been mostly healthy outside of Serge Ibaka. Like, if you're

779
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: in too good of a spot right now, I don't

780
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: think I don't. And even if you lose your you're

781
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: not gonna like they're expecting the series to go along.

782
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Think about that like the books are, so you have

783
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: to think about that too, that the books are telling

784
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: you that the most likely outcome in the series is

785
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: a seven game series, which means that you have value

786
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: up into the last game, which means you could probably

787
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: hedge right, like, you're not gonna be in an elimination

788
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: game until at least game six, so you have time

789
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: to come back and then hedge the other way with

790
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: a Clippers bet because you know, even if you want

791
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: to do it in five, because the Clippers will be

792
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: dogs in game five, right, Like the Am I wrong

793
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: that the Jazz were favored in games one and two?

794
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: Oh? For sure?

795
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: So can I ask this is a this is actually

796
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: a question. We're at five now on the Clippers when

797
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: the Jazz started as favorites, rahiem, Like, we know the

798
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: home court's not worth ten points? So what's going on

799
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: with home court here?

800
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 6: I think I don't know that that is that's really interesting,

801
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 6: Like I'm looking look at my mon.

802
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: The injuries have to be it, right, Like that's got

803
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: to be like the fact.

804
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: I actually had actually for the playoffs, I actually have

805
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 6: the Clippers at five point six today. Oooh yeah, like

806
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: I'm I having one to seventeen one eleven.

807
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: Well, and we haven't we haven't said this too, even

808
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: though I think that we all are thinking it. But

809
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: when we watched Game three, the Clippers made some adjustments,

810
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 5: Like I feel like that they found some things there

811
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 5: they maybe found the things that we thought they found

812
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 5: last round by going back to the small ball lineup.

813
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: We saw we saw Rondo out of the rotation. He

814
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: didn't play a minute in game three. We saw Zubac minimized.

815
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: We saw Batombs minutes skyrocket like you will, back up

816
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 5: to like thirty six minutes a game. And they're doing

817
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: the small ball lineup and they're switching everything, like back

818
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 5: in game one, we were yelling.

819
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the switch, the switch is here, this is

820
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: what we worried about.

821
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: And then they're like, ah, just kidding, we don't need

822
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: to do it, and then they went back to it

823
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: in game three and it's working. Like I think there's

824
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: that too, that that the Clippers seemed like. If I

825
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 5: thought that, if I thought the Clippers were just as

826
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: good as the Jazz in the first two games even

827
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: though they lost, and then they also found some solutions

828
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 5: in game three and and made the right rotation adjustments,

829
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 5: and they're getting the shooters out there, they're getting the

830
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: toomb and they're switching.

831
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: I like the way that that's matching up.

832
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: So we got Game one, the Jazz win by three.

833
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: Game two versus a three point line Game two, the

834
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Jazz cover with they win by six and a two

835
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: and a half point line. And then Game three the

836
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Clippers win by uh twenty six versus a four and

837
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: a half point line. So we have two relatively close

838
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: games in this outlier. Game three. Yeah, I think I'm

839
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna have about the Jazz night like just on the spread.

840
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Like I think Raheams is right that that number is

841
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: too high. My bigger question for you is, I will

842
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: tell you this is my thesis going forward, and I'll

843
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: let you guys respond to it. Rahem, Well, I'll start

844
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: with you, Okay. If the Jazz win this series, I'm

845
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: betting the Suns.

846
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

847
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: If the Clippers win this series, I'm betting the Clippers

848
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: to win the ten title.

849
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

850
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: Can I restond? Owner respond first?

851
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you go first, because yeah, because that's that's what

852
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: I was hinting at with the fading the Jazz futures

853
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: things is not just this series, but the future is that.

854
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: I also like the Jazz got swept in the regular

855
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: season series by the Suns. They lost all three of them.

856
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 5: I think it's not a great matchup for Utah. I

857
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 5: don't think I'm gonna like the matchup for Utah, I

858
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 5: know I will like it against the Suns. I don't

859
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: think I would like it in whatever the finals matchup

860
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 5: is going to be, unless it's just a big injury

861
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: advantage that they have at that point, which is possible

862
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 5: the Clippers. You can find the Clippers right now, Matt.

863
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: I agree betting on the Clippers win the title, but

864
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: I'm taking them now, right now while the value is

865
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 5: especially high, and I realize that means out to factor

866
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 5: in that they might lose the series and you're gonna

867
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: be able to wait it out and not have to

868
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 5: risk that, but you're going to lose a lot of

869
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: the value I can find right now. The Clippers do

870
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: win the title. At some books at plus nine hundred,

871
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: that's ten percent. They definitely have a better than ten

872
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 5: percent chance to win the title. They are good enough

873
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 5: to be able to do it, and I think that

874
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 5: that is a serious value right now. Only there's seven

875
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: teams left. Only the Hawks have a worse chance at

876
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: winning the title. I would not put the Clippers as

877
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: last among the other six teams to win the title.

878
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: I noticed as we were getting ready for this podcast.

879
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 5: Right now, at any book, the Nets and the Jazz

880
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: are the top two teams to win the title. They're

881
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: first and second in that order. The Nets and the

882
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 5: Jazz are not first or second in how I would

883
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: rank title teams right now, and I think that that

884
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 5: means that they're I think right now is when we

885
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 5: need to be playing futures. If you wait and now

886
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 5: the Clippers win tonight or the Clippers go up three

887
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 5: to two, that value is going to disappear. So I

888
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 5: think the Clippers are the right play. I think you

889
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 5: have to play them now. And I'll go even one

890
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: step further because you know how I love my life

891
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: long shot, wild and crazy bets. So if the Clippers

892
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: win the championship, who's the MVP. It's Kawai, right, It's

893
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: obviously Kawi. It has to be Kawai. And unless the

894
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: finals are a small sample size, you get five or

895
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 5: six games. What if their other superstar gets hot, makes

896
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 5: a bunch of shots and has his redemption arc oh

897
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: playoff pee blah blah blah. He made all the points.

898
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: You can get Paul George at plus six thousand to

899
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: win finals right now, six thousand at some books.

900
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh yeah, oh.

901
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that's it's a long shot.

902
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it's not Kauai, it's PG that's the other option.

903
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this as somebody that tracks the

904
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: voting STUF pretty closely. That panel is very small sample.

905
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: Okay, it's ten people.

906
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: It's ten people. It's ten people, and I've I know

907
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: most of the people they will choose. There will absolutely

908
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: be a reaction to the memification of Paul George. If

909
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: he plays well, that will definitely carry them. Now, they

910
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: love Kawhi too, so if it's close, I think Kawhi

911
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: gets the edge. But yeah, sixty to one, I will

912
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: give you. I like that value.

913
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: That is crazy.

914
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: So all right, rahiem you and I both like the Suns.

915
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: We've liked the Suns all year. I don't like the

916
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Clippers match up. I love the Jazz matchup. How do

917
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: we play this?

918
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: Like?

919
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Where is there anything we can get in on the Suns?

920
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 3: Right?

921
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: Like? Right now?

922
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: Okay, So last week I don't know if you guys solid,

923
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 6: but the Action Network did a story based on my

924
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 6: tweet because I was saying that Chris Paul was forty

925
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: two to one to win Finals MVP four Game three,

926
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 6: and I was asking some friends about it. I'm like, yeah,

927
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 6: we should take this. One guy talked me out of

928
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 6: it and said we should take Booker. The next morning

929
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 6: I woke up, I think it was down to eighteen

930
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 6: to one. Now it's down to twelve to one. So

931
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 6: it was like that was gonna be my angle taking

932
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 6: Chris Paul because I felt like the Clippers are gonna play,

933
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 6: and they're gonna play in consecutive seven game series, probably

934
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 6: so the Suns have some edge having home court. But

935
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: I think right now, it's like, how do you play this?

936
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 6: You almost have to play it game by game almost,

937
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: or you have to play it for the series. Like

938
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: I mean, right now, I think the Suns are plus

939
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 6: four hundred to win the NBA title. I wouldn't mind

940
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 6: taking that over. I would take that over than winning

941
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: the Western Conference at plus one thirty because I think

942
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 6: at plus one thirty you can if they go down

943
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: oh one or they go down too one, you'll find

944
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: better odds.

945
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: I haven't really conceptualized the Bucks Sun's Finals. It just

946
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: hasn't never been something that's like gotten in my brain.

947
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that I love that for Phoenix, I'm.

948
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: Not gonna lie. I watched that game I don't know.

949
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 6: If you saw the there was a Sun's Bucks game,

950
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 6: and all the problems that the Bucks have in the

951
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 6: playoffs they had in that game.

952
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: And the thing I like about the Sun's team is

953
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: they have.

954
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 6: Two guys and Chris Paul and Devin Booker, who are

955
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 6: in the ninety percent of mid range jumpers. So, I mean,

956
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 6: you saw it last night. They took away the threes

957
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 6: and Chris Paul literally made every single mid range jumper.

958
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 6: And I think you're gonna have those games with the

959
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 6: Bucks in the Suns and gonna come down to crunch

960
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 6: time and it's gonna come down to who do you trust.

961
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: I got this, I got this, I got this. So

962
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: here's here's the key though, right the Clippers and are

963
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: you with me? The Clippers matchup is not good for Phoenix.

964
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Are you with me on thats okay?

965
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

966
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: The Clippers and the Nets one thing in common. They're

967
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: switch heavy. That's like, that's it. So if the Suns

968
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: don't face Clippers or Nets, they win the title. If

969
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: it's anybody else, they can win, but those two you can't.

970
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: And the problem though, is you can't get them as

971
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: a dog in the finals. So I do agree. I

972
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to take a game by game

973
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: like you just I can't put a son's future in

974
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: if the Nets are still live and the Clippers are

975
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: still live. Maybe if it's if it's Nets Sixers and

976
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: the Nets are still banged up, right, like Harden, there's

977
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: still no timetable. Like let's say that Kevin Durant just

978
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: puts this team on his shoulders and shuts Rahim up

979
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: about his playmaking and gets past the Bucks. Right, the

980
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Sixers can beat that team pretty handily. And I love

981
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: Sons versus Sixers, love that matchup, right, So then you're

982
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: you're looking pretty good and the Sons will still be

983
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: dogs versus Utah. That's like the that's like the situation

984
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: that we're hoping for is that it's Jazz Suns and

985
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: we can bet the Sons as a dog. Brandon, are

986
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: you with us on that because you've been captain Jazz

987
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: this year?

988
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I definitely will want I think we all

989
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 5: will want to bet Sons against Jazz if that's the

990
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: matchup that we get.

991
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So like I just think we gotta wait. I

992
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: think we gotta wait to make sure that the that

993
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: the because there're gonna be a dog versus either of

994
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: the two teams that we've circled as they're a problem

995
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: from here on out, Like we're not gonna get good value.

996
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: We only get good value if the Sons are a

997
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: dog versus teams that if the path is clear, if

998
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: it's Bucks sixers on our yeah, it's Buck sixers in

999
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: the East and it's Jazz Suns, then I think we

1000
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: bet the the Suns will win the title. I think

1001
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the move. I think, you know, I

1002
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: think you gotta wait until those those switch teams are out.

1003
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Because the Nuggets couldn't switch and the Lakers couldn't switch.

1004
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: We haven't seen them versus a switch team. That's what

1005
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: gave Phoenix trouble in the regular season.

1006
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: I will I'll add this.

1007
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: You always talk about that, the narration of let me

1008
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: just paint the picture a month from now, where the

1009
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 5: Sons are the champions and here's here's what just happened.

1010
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 5: Chris Paul, the point God is an NBA champion. Chris

1011
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 5: Paul defeated Lebron James and the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers,

1012
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 5: then took out the reigning MVP Nicole Jokic then played

1013
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 5: the Clippers. Chris Paul played the Clippers in the Western

1014
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 5: Conference Finals and knocked him out. And then he made

1015
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 5: the finals and then he faced James Harden, his old teammate,

1016
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 5: James Harden, and he beat him too. Chris Paul point god,

1017
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 5: NBA Champion. It's a pretty juicy storyline, true.

1018
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. All right, let's go to Let's

1019
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: go over to bocks Nets. So here, I'll give you

1020
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: my perspective on the series since I was out last week. Okay,

1021
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: I bet the Nets yesterday because I was betting the narrative.

1022
00:51:59,400 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: I told you.

1023
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: I bet them live. Raheem told me not to. As

1024
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: soon as Raheem told me not to. Raheem's tweet of

1025
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: I tried to tell you came up thirty seconds later.

1026
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Kyrie erving heard himself and I was like, I think

1027
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: it's the victory lot me because Kyrie got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think we overreacted to games

1059
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: one and two. I think sometimes teams just played badly.

1060
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks just played badly. I don't think

1061
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: the Nets figured them out. And here's like, here's the

1062
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: biggest thing. Because I was listening to Risilla, who like

1063
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: a lot on the Simmons Pot, and he was talking

1064
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: about how all these stating problems still exists for the Bucks.

1065
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: But here's like the question, do we really think that

1066
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin, over the course of seven games is going

1067
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: to be a Yana stopper? Do we think Blake Griffin

1068
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: at this point in his career is gonna be the

1069
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: Yanna stopper. They're not building a wall, they're not playing

1070
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: great team defense. It's been Giannis, in my opinion, getting

1071
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: fouled and no cult but getting stopped by Blake Griffin.

1072
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't trust that. Blake's never been a good defender.

1073
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: Blake's never been a good defender in his career. Like

1074
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: in his career, you've never been like Blake's a really

1075
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: good defender. You've been like he's passable and he's okay.

1076
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: When it was with the Clippers, it was like, yeah,

1077
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: like their team defense is pretty good. They got DeAndre

1078
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Jordan behind him, So I don't think that that holds

1079
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, I swear to god, I went back and

1080
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: looked it up, like I did a post going into

1081
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Sunday's game talking about how I like basically reacting to

1082
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: that rock fight of Game two, and one of the

1083
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: things was like, basically, and I should just bet the

1084
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: under because now it's now three and oh in the

1085
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: following game, where this where the there's a game where

1086
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: the total comes in fifty points or more below the

1087
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: expected margin. It's happened three times the under is three

1088
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: and oh in the next in the next game, and

1089
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: it's a consistent trend for forty plus and thirty plus

1090
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: as well. Brandon got me there I bet the other

1091
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: way because I bet the Bucks team total over and

1092
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I missed it by six and a half points. And

1093
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: the reason was I was, like, the Bucks are just

1094
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: missing good shots, like they really are, like like Middleton's

1095
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: missing mid range jumpers that are that are rattling in

1096
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: and out. And that happened to Drew Holiday too. He

1097
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: had two layups yesterday where like the balls like halfway

1098
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: down the circle and comes out. That's not like Drew

1099
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: Holiday not focusing or not being ready for the moment.

1100
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: That's just weird ass physics. And that's really how games

1101
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: won two, and honestly a lot of Game three went.

1102
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: I think the tactical stuff in the series is shifting

1103
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: towards Milwaukee on top of the injury. I still think

1104
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: this series goes long because I kind of think that

1105
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: either Kyru, well, okay, we'll go aet in top of this.

1106
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: Now Kyrie's in a walking boot for Rachel Nichols of ESPN,

1107
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and just like cross him out of

1108
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Game five, that's not gonna happen. Doesn't sound like Harden's back, right,

1109
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: So it sounds like it's gonna be game six no

1110
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: matter what. Brandon like as as like Game six is

1111
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: gonna be like last stand for Brooklyn, whether they get

1112
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: guys healthy or not.

1113
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: Do we agree there, Yeah, I think so.

1114
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 5: I certainly I don't expect either one of the Harden

1115
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 5: or Kyrie to play in Game five. And I definitely

1116
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 5: have been eyeballing tickets to drive and make the two

1117
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 5: hour drive up to Milwaukee for Thursday night because that

1118
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: seems like a slightly pivotal game in NBA history to

1119
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 5: see what we're gonna get. I don't know if we're

1120
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: gonna see Kyrie in that game. It feels like if

1121
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 5: we don't see Kyrie in that game, then we do

1122
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: see Harden at least give it a try. I'm not

1123
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: a doctor, but as far as I understand hamstring injuries,

1124
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: it's not like him playing is gonna risk some long

1125
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 5: term thing. It like the risk is reinjuring it and

1126
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 5: being out for the playoffs. But if you lose Game six,

1127
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: you're out for the playoffs anyway, So I think you

1128
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: have to give it a try then. But I don't know,

1129
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: do you, guys. I don't know that we're gonna see

1130
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: they're one of them again in the playoffs, because I

1131
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: don't know they're gonna play this series, and I don't

1132
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 5: think they have any real chance to do in the

1133
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 5: series without them, You guys think that we're gonna see

1134
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: one or both of them.

1135
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: Again, I don't think we're gonna see Harden in this series.

1136
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 6: I just think he's already had the hamstring flare up

1137
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 6: twice already. I mean, we see what's happening with Connley.

1138
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: I think they're protective of his career. I mean especially,

1139
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: I think he's a free agent at the next season.

1140
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 6: So I just don't There's no way I think we

1141
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 6: see Harden unless they make the NBA Finals. As far

1142
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 6: as Kyrie, I think it's the way he left the court.

1143
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 6: It's pretty clear we're not gonna see him in Game five, and.

1144
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to speculate on Game six.

1145
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 5: So that that that that ankle, by the way, same

1146
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 5: Kyrie foot that stomped on the Boston logo ironically named Lucky.

1147
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: Just just pointing that out.

1148
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Bucks to win the series is now minus win

1149
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: twenty five. I it just feels like it feels like

1150
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: a trap. It feels like I would bet that being

1151
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: like they've turned the series, they've got the they've got

1152
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: the advantage. They played badly early on, they're definitely not

1153
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: gonna be back for five and then probably not six

1154
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: and all the injuries. But then it feels like that's

1155
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: like a trap, and I'm like, man, they're like Kyrie's

1156
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna magically play in game six, put on a heroic

1157
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: performance and that it's gonna go to seven, and the

1158
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Nets are gonna like I just I can't, I can't, I.

1159
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: Can't get it. Here's the thing. I mean, here's the

1160
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: thing though.

1161
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 6: If you take the Bucks minus one thirty, they're gonna

1162
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 6: be fair. They're three point row favorites in game five,

1163
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 6: which probably means they're going to be around six or

1164
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 6: something like that for game six. So it's like, if

1165
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 6: you take it, you could always come back on Brooklyn

1166
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 6: at plus money, or you could you could try to

1167
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 6: middle game six like you have.

1168
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: It's open for you.

1169
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1170
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 5: Sure, the Milwaukee move again, look in the big picture here,

1171
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 5: if we think if you think Milwaukee wins the series,

1172
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 5: then I think the move is not to play the

1173
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 5: series because I think that we like Milwaukee against Philadelphia

1174
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: pretty well. I think that we like Milwaukee in most

1175
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 5: finals matchups pretty well. Maybe all of them. The Bucks

1176
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 5: would be my title pick right now today. They would

1177
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: be my title pick. And that's because I think they're

1178
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 5: going to win this series because of the injuries. And

1179
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 5: I think if you think they're going to win the series,

1180
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 5: then you camp about the series. You've got to play

1181
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: the long game and you got to be looking at

1182
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 5: what is I think plus four to fifty right now

1183
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 5: to win the title or seventy five or seventy five.

1184
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 5: I think that's the play. I think it's not to

1185
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: play this the short term thing, because you're maybe the

1186
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: Nets come back. Maybe this all sets up for Kevin

1187
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 5: Durant to have like an all time game or two

1188
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: and just do it on his own. He definitely has

1189
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: it in him, even if he doesn't think that he does.

1190
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: But I think if you think the Bucks are gonna

1191
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 5: win the series, then you have to look ahead and

1192
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: like a lot what things look like, and even too

1193
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 5: like what that means to this team to have been

1194
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 5: on the brink. We were all writing the eulogy for

1195
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 5: Mike Budenholzer and this version of the Bucks and it

1196
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 5: was over like it was. It was the way that

1197
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: we were talking about the Clippers around to go it

1198
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 5: was the end, and they stared into the Abyss and

1199
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: came out throwing rocks in Game three and somehow got

1200
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 5: a win. And Raheem and I were turning about that

1201
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 5: this weekend that like, at the time, it was easy

1202
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 5: to be like, oh, yay, Milwaukee, good job, get you

1203
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 5: gotta win you you pulled one out here, and not

1204
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 5: really take it so seriously, but the playoffs of a

1205
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: funny way of punishing you for not finishing things out.

1206
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 5: Then Nets, we're that close, that close to being up

1207
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 5: three games to zero. They were right there, three to zero,

1208
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 5: even with these injuries.

1209
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: That's it.

1210
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 5: Like it reminds me. I'm sorry, Matt, but it reminds

1211
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 5: me of a few years ago when the Bucks themselves

1212
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 5: were up two oh in overtime against the Raptors.

1213
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: They were right there. They know what it's like to

1214
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: be on.

1215
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: And Van Vliet, the nemesis, Fred van Vliet.

1216
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 5: Rockford's own Fred van Vliet, came through this like, if

1217
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 5: you win the series, if you're the Bucks, it's not

1218
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 5: just that you won the series, it's that you survived

1219
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: that mental block that you've had for so many years. Now,

1220
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 5: after surviving the Miami mental block, they already did in

1221
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 5: the first round, and you just vanquished the team that

1222
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 5: was the title favorite.

1223
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 4: So aren't you the title favorite? If you beat the

1224
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 4: title favorite?

1225
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Do you think there's more value there? Do we think

1226
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: we just roll it over minus one twenty five and

1227
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: then take that into the sixer series where it'll be

1228
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: dogs again. They'll be dog like the Bucks will be

1229
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: dogs in every series?

1230
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: Will they be dogs though, because.

1231
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll be Delbie dogs versus Phillip y'llys got home Court.

1232
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: They'll at least.

1233
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1234
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 6: I think if you think that the Bucks are gonna

1235
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 6: win this series, there's no way you pass.

1236
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: Up the value just for a long shot. I think

1237
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: you bet both.

1238
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 6: Like I'm a big fan of For me, when I

1239
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 6: see value on something, I'm trying to extract as.

1240
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: Much as possible.

1241
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm not just gonna choose one or the others.

1242
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 6: So I mean my take on this is, honestly, I

1243
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 6: think the Bucks should fire Booda even if they win

1244
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 6: the championship.

1245
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I was I was gonna ask.

1246
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Why, let me ask you why?

1247
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm trolling, but I just thought it was a

1248
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: funny to say.

1249
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: But let me ask you relatedly, so let's say that

1250
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 5: Kyrie and Harden just don't play again, and so the

1251
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 5: Bucks win the series.

1252
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: Let's say they went in six.

1253
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 5: And it it it turns into the Nuggets thing where

1254
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, yeah, Durant is great, but like, look

1255
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 5: at the guys around and we other than Durant, it's

1256
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 5: literally two Pistons cast offs and like guys who like

1257
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: Mike James, who wasn't in the league a few months ago,

1258
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 5: Like it's a one man team. And so that then

1259
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 5: you get the ass to risk potentially, and like how

1260
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 5: far do the Bucks have to go past that to

1261
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: keep Budenholzer when it seemed like that was the end

1262
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 5: and I would say they have to win two finals

1263
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 5: games in order for Bud to keep the job.

1264
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 4: Still, what do you guys think?

1265
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: I think they win this series, that he's okay, he made.

1266
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 4: Co I agree, but I don't think you should be.

1267
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I just like, look, I don't know that he's done

1268
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: that bad again. I just think that they played really

1269
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: badly in games one and two. Like everyone flipped out

1270
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: over Giannis's minutes. He's averaged over forty two minutes per

1271
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: game in the last two games, like he went to

1272
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Jiannis at the five in the last game, Like, they've

1273
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: made adjustments, they've made differentials. And I'll say this if

1274
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: you want to go the other way, if if you

1275
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: want an argument that the nets are live. Joe Harris

1276
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: was eight of sixteen from three in Brooklyn and three

1277
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: of thirteen from three in Milwaukee.

1278
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1279
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because one of my thing is when I watched

1280
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: games one and two, it wasn't just the Bucks played badly.

1281
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin was hitting threes guys and playing like amazing.

1282
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: Mike James looked like o Iverson and Joe Harris. I

1283
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: noted this in my article. So Joe Harris's looks were

1284
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: high quality. The Bucks did have a much better job in

1285
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: three and four of trailing him and tracking him. They're

1286
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: getting more used to how to defend him. But also

1287
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: even if you look at at the quantified shot quality

1288
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: via second spectrum of Harris's shots in games one and two,

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Speaker 1: which was high, it was like fifty three percent, which

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Speaker 1: is really high. That's like an expected field goal percentage

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Speaker 1: of fifty three percent of those shots he was at

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Speaker 1: like sixty nine percent. Yeah, like he shot above that.

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Speaker 1: Now I was arguing with somebody that has a very

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Speaker 1: strong feeling against the Bucks yesterday, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: but Joe Harris is a great shooter, Like he like

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Speaker 1: he makes better than I was like, yeah, but just

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Speaker 1: the gap between them. So I just think a lot like, Look,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of things go against the Bucks

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Speaker 1: in these series. I think the Botenholzer last year completely

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01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: got rolled, but I think he's been much better this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think that we're we're cramming in the just

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: the same way that if if Paul George plays pretty

1303
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: well but has a bad like quarter, everyone crams that in,

1304
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: like we crammed. It's not even narrative, it's like memes,

1305
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: like we cram NBA means into these series.

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Speaker 3: And I think I think, I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like when you look at games, I mean game

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Speaker 6: in game one, the Bucks were six of thirty from three.

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Speaker 3: Game two they were like six of twenty seven. Yeah,

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: in Game three they were like eight of thirty three.

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Speaker 3: So they just weren't making shots.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 6: liked them in Game four is because they pulled out

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Speaker 6: a tough win in the clutch against Kyrie and Kevin

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Speaker 6: Durant and I'm watching the first couple of minutes of

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Speaker 6: the game and I'm like, Oh, this team's finally hitting

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Speaker 6: threes and they're getting they've gotten more physical.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 6: Tucker is like, really put the pressure on Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, they're gonna win this game. And I

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Speaker 6: felt that way even before Kyrie came out, and I

1322
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 6: honestly I felt like Brandon knows. I text him, I'm like, Yeah,

1323
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 6: they're gonna win this game. And I felt like if

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Speaker 6: Kyrie and get hurt, they probably still win this game.

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Speaker 1: So it's retrospect. I bet the Nets because I was

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Speaker 1: I like, I bet the Nets live, and my thought

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: was just like nothing does go the Bucks way. Like

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Speaker 1: this is where I get like mixed up on that

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: narrative shit and like the whole like these concepts, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, the Bucks never can seem for things to

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: go right for them. That's a lot of it is Like, look,

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Speaker 1: I've I've documented and written about how the Bucks have

1333
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: made tactical errors. The Bucks will also get a really

1334
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: bad bounce, they get a bad whistle, and they get

1335
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: a bad bounce, Like both of all of these things

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Speaker 1: can be true. At once, right now, what finals matchup

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Speaker 1: would you be most excited to bet? And this is

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Speaker 1: not one that I prepped you guys for us. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to think about it, so I will tell

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Speaker 1: you right now.

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Speaker 3: I would be.

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Speaker 1: Most excited to bet Bucks Clippers. I really like that

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Speaker 1: counter like I like the athleticism of the Bucks versus

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. I like the fact that the Clippers would

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: be playing drum. The Clippers just they try and overwhelming

1346
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: you with talent. They don't play that smart. Utah Bucks

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: would be a very weird match up.

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Speaker 3: The NBA eight.

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Speaker 1: And Bucks Suns would be probably the most fun game

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: series to watch. But I don't think I'll be able

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01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: to find good value there. Like here, like here is

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Speaker 1: genuinely interesting question. Okay, So the Bucks are plus four

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: seventy five to win the NBA title. The Suns are

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: plus three seventy five right now because they're locked into

1355
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: the conference finals and the Jazz are still in a series.

1356
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: Like if the Jazz advanced, the Jazz will jump over

1357
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: the Suns because they'll be favored in the next round.

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: Do we think the Sons or the Bucks are favored

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Speaker 1: in the finals matchup?

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Speaker 4: The Bucks.

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Speaker 3: The Sons. We have home court, though it.

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Speaker 1: Might be it might be honestly that one might be like,

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: it might be a pick them and they'll just let

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01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: the market decide that price.

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Speaker 5: Are you are you open to get that Bucks Clippers

1366
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: finals matchup out old be?

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Speaker 1: I mean I would take it. It would be great

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01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: no matter what, Like I would, I would think that

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: the Bucks would be major dog there.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, like were betting it right now. You're

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01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: saying we're betting what finals matchup we like? So at

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Speaker 5: bet mgm our official odds sponsor the podcast, that matchup

1373
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: right now is plus one thousand. And I have to

1374
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 5: point out and Saturday afternoon, so one game ago, for

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 5: all these games on Saturday afternoon, Bucks Clippers to play

1376
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 5: in the finals was plus four thousand. Yeah, a few

1377
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 5: days later it got stop from forty to one to

1378
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 5: ten to one, just because well not just because the

1379
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 5: Clippers won a game and the Bucks won a game and.

1380
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: Kyrie got hurt. That's how fast. Like it's crazy.

1381
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 5: At times in these playoffs we've looked and been like, oh,

1382
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 5: the Lakers look inevitable, they figure the Suns out here

1383
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 5: they go again, and then they weren't and then Davis

1384
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 5: got hurt and it all change better than inevitable and

1385
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: they were winning everything, and then they got hurt and

1386
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 5: everything swings better.

1387
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: One for you is there is there a spot where

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: we think where we're gonna want the Sixers?

1389
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 3: Is there?

1390
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: Like him? I'll ask you this because you're you're the

1391
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: filly guy. Is there a spot where we're gonna want

1392
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: the Sixers?

1393
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 6: The funny thing is when you asked your last question,

1394
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I want to take the Sons

1395
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 6: and the Sixers, okay, because I would be looking to

1396
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 6: fade the Sixers.

1397
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: Fade them. You you like the Sons in that matchup?

1398
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1399
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 6: Like, I watched a couple of games this year and

1400
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 6: I just most notably the first game, because I think

1401
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 6: the second game Simmons didn't play, And I just think

1402
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 6: it's one of those games where I think Ayton can

1403
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 6: do enough on NB and the Sixers just don't have

1404
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 6: anything for their guards, and I.

1405
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: Just think Booker and Chris Paul would just kind of

1406
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: eat them a lot.

1407
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, Jay versus Tobias is a really good matchup. Yeah, Like,

1408
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: is there any combo? I'll say this, I don't know.

1409
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that I hate.

1410
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm honestly, here's the thing. I'm hoping the Clippers win

1411
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: the Western Conference because I want about the Eastern teams.

1412
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: I think I like all the Eastern teams versus versus

1413
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: the Clippers, which is weird because like, I think the

1414
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: Clippers have the most talent of the remaining teams.

1415
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: I get it though, because.

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: That's the that's the one is. If it's like, if

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: it's six Ers Clippers, I'm probably taking the Sixers.

1418
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 6: I agree with you there because I mean when you

1419
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 6: look at nets, if you look at Nets Clippers, the

1420
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 6: Clippers aren't going to be able to keep up with

1421
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 6: them offensively and them I think the Clippers switch, it's

1422
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 6: not gonna work because they have three ISO guys.

1423
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: Who can score at will.

1424
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 6: When you look at the Bucks and the Sixers, the

1425
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 6: Clippers have no rim protection.

1426
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

1427
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm is there a six or you're the contrarian, is

1428
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: there a Sixer spot?

1429
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about the Sixers earlier.

1430
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 5: I'm like you, Matt, I'm just gonna have to lose

1431
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 5: if the Sixers win the title. I'm just gonna have

1432
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 5: to lose on it because it's just I'm gonna have

1433
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 5: to see Joel Embiid standing on both of his knees

1434
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 5: holding up the finals MVP. And that's what I will

1435
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 5: believe is when that has happened, and I hope he

1436
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 5: stays healthy. I hope we get to see him make

1437
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 5: a run at it. The angle that I'm thinking about,

1438
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 5: I was'ing at this earlier, and I think even a

1439
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 5: couple weeks ago, I brought up, you can play just

1440
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 5: East versus West to win the title. And I liked

1441
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 5: the East a lot because we thought that the nets

1442
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 5: Bus was the finals, and what a glorious, terrible finals

1443
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 5: nets Bucks has been. By the way, I don't know

1444
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 5: that I like the East anymore, so I was looking

1445
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 5: at the West. The West right now is plus one

1446
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 5: oh five to win the finals. I don't love that.

1447
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 5: Here's what I do like, though, I don't believe in

1448
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 5: the Jazz. I've sat already on this pod that we

1449
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 5: are fading the Jazz. You can take the Pacific Division,

1450
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 5: which is the Sons and the Clippers at plus two

1451
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 5: hundred to win the finals two to one. I don't

1452
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: hate that. I feel like that's a pretty good odds

1453
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 5: right now. I like either one of those teams much

1454
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,440
Speaker 5: better than I would be fading the Jazz in the finals.

1455
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 5: I like the Clippers or the Songs potentially, I think

1456
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 5: there's some value there.

1457
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Speaker 1: All right, got wrap it up for the Action Network podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Everybody been great to have you

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Speaker 1: been great to be back. We'll be back later this

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Speaker 1: week on Thursday with another episode getting caught up after

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Speaker 1: these games when we change our minds completely after two

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Speaker 1: more games, because that's how the playoffs go. You can

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Speaker 1: of the NBA Playoffs Edition of the Action Network

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Speaker 2: Podcast, We're finished talking