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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Hannah Elliott and

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: This is Hot Pursuit coming up on today's podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm back from Las Vegas after attending the Formula one

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix, and I'll tell you all about that experience.

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Speaker 1: It was quite an experience. Also my latest headache with

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Speaker 1: the rolls, and I've been driving the Volvo X ninety

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Speaker 1: and EX thirty and Matt, I know you want to

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Speaker 1: hear about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I very much care, especially about that last part,

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Speaker 2: because you know, my wife had a Volvo XC ninety

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Speaker 2: for a two year lease and she loved it so much.

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Speaker 2: But for me, the as I'm sure I've told you

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Speaker 2: a million times, the two liter four cylinder just wasn't

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Speaker 2: cutting it. And we had the hybrid version, so like

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Speaker 2: it was the most powerful possible Volvo, but that part

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Speaker 2: of it felt so unluxury to me that I convinced

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Speaker 2: her to get a Mercedes instead. Now that has come

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Speaker 2: with its own issues, most of them incredibly expensive issues.

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Speaker 1: That headlight, I remember you mentioned headlight five grand.

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Speaker 2: So so she has now vowed to go back to

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Speaker 2: Volvo because she's she loves the design I don't disagree

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Speaker 2: with her on that issue. Same but I think that

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Speaker 2: the EX ninety could solve the powertrain poverty that I

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Speaker 2: experienced in the XC ninety, So I'm interested. Plus, we

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Speaker 2: get to hear from you, our dear listener. We dip

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Speaker 2: into the Hot Pursuit mail bag for your comments and

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Speaker 2: answer some of your questions as well as thank you

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Speaker 2: for your participation. I've gotten so much feedback. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: really it's really a lot of fun and you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of conversations started because of this. So you

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Speaker 2: can always shoot us an email.

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Speaker 1: At it's Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

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Speaker 2: Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. And typically, of course

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Speaker 2: we write back. Sometimes I've noticed like I won't write

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Speaker 2: back for a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: We will though in the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because one guy wrote in with a couple of

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Speaker 2: guest suggestions and I took them to heart, and I

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Speaker 2: actually have booked the guests, but I never like got

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Speaker 2: back to him and said, dude, great idea. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the segment.

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Speaker 1: So so we should consider this the response.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to say. Nick Pinchuck, the CEO of snap

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Speaker 2: On Tools, is going to join us at a later.

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Speaker 1: Date, and this was one of the recommendations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a recommendation. Yeah, you know, I've had

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Speaker 2: him on my television show. He's a very outspoken CEO.

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Speaker 2: But also, like what an iconic brand snap On. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you're watching a race, or if you're watching a

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Speaker 2: movie about a race, or if you're watching you know,

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Speaker 2: a movie about a mechanic, or if you're in an

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Speaker 2: auto show like snap On, it's everywhere, right, I mean, yes.

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Speaker 1: I admit I was not intimately familiar with the snap

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Speaker 1: On universe, but I'm I know the name, and I

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Speaker 1: sort of vaguely knew, oh yeah, that's that's okay, Yeah

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Speaker 1: I get it, but I'm not I don't know the details.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually really curious and excited to talk to him.

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Speaker 2: All right, So well, you know that that's coming up

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Speaker 2: to me. Snap On represents the pinnacle of tooling, and

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Speaker 2: I you know, especially having a lot of old Ducats,

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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in the shop, and those

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Speaker 2: guys swear by these tools. Plus I watch a lot

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Speaker 2: of movies about races and you always see the logo everywhere,

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Speaker 2: But I could never find any to buy because they don't.

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Speaker 2: They're not for sale at you know, like your local

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Speaker 2: hardware story. It's like a B to B. It's real

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Speaker 2: really for professionals.

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Speaker 1: So professional grade exactly.

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Speaker 2: So occasionally I'll see the snap on delivery truck, you know,

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Speaker 2: throughout the years, I'll see it here and there, like

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Speaker 2: if I'm on a road trip or if I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: driving somewhere, and I always will pull over and try

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Speaker 2: and find the driver.

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Speaker 1: Why because you just want to grow out with him.

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Speaker 2: You know, because if you find the truck and the

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Speaker 2: guy has time, he will sell you tools.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes I'll see it and like I have a

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Speaker 1: So this is this leads me to ask, how much

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Speaker 1: cash do you typically carry at any given time on tools?

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Speaker 2: It's not for that well, it sounds.

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Speaker 1: Like you're casually just dropping a couple hundos, like on

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Speaker 2: I have to I carry, you know, cash. I don't

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Speaker 1: Kind of a thing. Some people are very into carrying cash,

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Speaker 2: I want to always have it. I want to. Ever

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Speaker 2: since my college days, one of my older fraternity brothers

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Speaker 2: so I always do the same thing, Like with a

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I have the money.

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Speaker 1: Make my day, all right?

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Speaker 2: What else should we get straight into the to the

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Speaker 2: mail bag? Yeah, we've had some really good emails lately.

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Speaker 2: One of them is from my brother in law. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that.

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Speaker 1: Let me pull it up love to say what the

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Speaker 1: he hello? From Matt's brother in law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can go ahead and read it.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, I know that he listens every week,

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Speaker 2: and I love the guy. He's a genius. He has

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Speaker 2: an amazing business and he has even better taste. But

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Speaker 2: I'd never really like bring him up on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, dude, why aren't you calling me out?

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Speaker 1: You know you know what? And are we going to

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Speaker 1: say his name, Louise, We're going to say, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're saying it. Well, Louise, thank you for really a

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Speaker 1: very kind and thoughtful email. I love how you say

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Speaker 1: that you really like the contrast between us, that Hannah

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Speaker 1: is more find and euro oriented. Well, Matt shows his

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Speaker 1: brutal love for American muscle and pickup trucks. I have

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Speaker 1: to admit that I'm right in the middle. That makes

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Speaker 1: me so happy to hear because that's authentically who we.

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Speaker 2: Are, true, and he is get along.

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Speaker 1: He's get along.

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Speaker 2: You know. Louise is from Spain, but he's an architect

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Speaker 2: working in la And I think it's great that he

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Speaker 2: has a pickup truck. That was the first vehicle that

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Speaker 2: he bought here because he's wanted to, I think, integrate

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Speaker 2: better with American culture. Plus, he's a surfer, so he's

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Speaker 1: Of taste, yes, well he's European, yes.

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Speaker 2: And he I know he's he got advice from you

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Speaker 2: and Magnus and he picked up this amazing nine to

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Speaker 2: it's so cool to watch his business grow and to

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Speaker 2: watch him collect these these things. But one of the

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Speaker 2: one of the other things he talks about in his email,

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Speaker 2: and that we got more emails about. Is the Audi

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Speaker 2: R S six that I drove, yes last week. I

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Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking about it either and in both

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Speaker 2: the good So the good for me is that it

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Speaker 2: can haul so much and it's so quick, and I

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Speaker 2: think the design is beautiful. I wish more people And

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Speaker 2: I think you said this would drive station wagons than SUV's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get out of the arms race.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, it's Audi has always had this

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Speaker 2: I think it's duschebrung doush no foresprung dousch technique, which

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Speaker 2: technique for sprung Dusche technique. Yeah. And the thing is

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Speaker 2: that's always been scary to me because this stuff breaks

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Speaker 2: and it just again it costs a lot of money

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I really can't comment on that because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's you know it sound. I have

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Speaker 2: Well, or we got we got an email yes from John.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking at that, so why do.

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Speaker 2: You go ahead? And tell us what John has to say.

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Speaker 1: John John says that he really agrees with you, Matt.

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Speaker 1: We were talking last week about the MMI, the sort of.

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Speaker 2: Uh infotainment system correct.

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Speaker 1: Inside the Audi, and I was saying that I really

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Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that you have to push pretty

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Speaker 1: just brush it anyway. Matt loved it, and John agrees

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Speaker 1: with Matt. He is a five AUDI owner And that

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Speaker 1: is one thing that I really realized. People who love

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Speaker 2: But he had an issue, yes, with his first Q eight,

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Speaker 2: that the you know, overall company took it back, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but again I'm OUTI does really engender

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Speaker 1: it's the cutest, most Norman Rockwell style photo of two

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Speaker 1: little boys in front of a seventy three Mercedes Binz SL.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell which which SL, but maybe love it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I love it when people send pictures,

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Speaker 2: Porsche's in the past, and he writes in this week

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Speaker 2: lot about getting the G fifty transmission. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's that much better than the nine fifteen, if you sure,

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Speaker 2: if you work in the nine fifteen. But I've been

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Speaker 2: hearing that a lot, although I didn't. I heard something

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Speaker 2: different from Magnus. He likes everything pre nineteen seventy four well,

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Speaker 2: So you mean the nine thirty that you guys have

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's a Turbos. The King of the Hill

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 1: I think people want it.

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Speaker 2: They definitely, Well, it's certainly the ones who write to

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Speaker 1: I love it. Get right to the point, Reveny. You

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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, So we will do that, and

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll hear about Hannah's Rolls Royce problems.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of classic cars that have issues. Plus,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Hot Pursuit from Bloomberg Radio. I'm Matt

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Speaker 2: Miller here with Hannah Elliott and Hannah, you continue to

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Speaker 2: have problems with your Rolls Royce, with one of your

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Speaker 2: Rolls Royces. First of all, is it the same one that.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a continuation, yes, of the same one,

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Speaker 2: Charlie, no, oh, that's.

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Speaker 1: So, this is the problem, and so apologies if everyone

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Speaker 1: And this has been a particularly annoying instance where it's

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Speaker 1: We went to somebody else who's in the valley, who

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Speaker 2: First of all, I want to point out that we

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're a grown if you're a grown man,

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Speaker 2: Then from on your side, I have never been to

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Speaker 2: Rolls Royces and Porsche's, Like, why not leave your Rolls

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Speaker 2: Royce at Charlie's for three months because you don't have

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Speaker 2: a shortage of vehicles from which to choose.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you tend to have favorites,

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Speaker 1: cannot explain the emotional connection. There's no rhyme or reason.

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Speaker 1: It's just the one I like and I and I

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Speaker 2: I also wonder because I always look at these classic

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Speaker 1: Maybe or why maybe or not a food.

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Speaker 2: I'm always afraid and I always think about you and

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Speaker 1: Ten years, well five years, I've actually counted only five.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you've not had any like seriously expensive

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Speaker 2: to Charlie and he's like, that'll be fifteen grand.

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Speaker 1: No, No, this this whole thing, which was a two

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Speaker 2: And so that you're what you tell me about your

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Speaker 1: It's not really not bad.

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Speaker 2: You've made some bad choices in order to end up here, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I take full response. I've learned my lesson it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it could have been this is very obviously first

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm the little old lady who has

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Speaker 2: company owns the dealerships. It's not like here with the

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00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: franchise model. And they had to make some changes to

436
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: make it road legal in Germany, and they listed all

437
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: these changes that they needed to make, said it was

438
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: going to cost ten thousand euros, and then left the

439
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: car outside in a parking lot, just completely covered in crap.

440
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: And I realized that they actually didn't need to make

441
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: all of those changes, and I was I couldn't believe

442
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: that they left it so dirty, and I actually was

443
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: so angry. I wrote a letter to the board. No way,

444
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: and the board confirmed my suspicion that you don't need

445
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: to make ten thousand dollars worth of changes. It's more like,

446
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, uh, a few hundred dollars worth of things,

447
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: and that they should also clean the car, you know.

448
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: So there's something to that.

449
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Making a little noise sometimes helps.

450
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: Yes, there's there is something to that. And I am

451
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: not a fastidious person. I am truly. If you saw

452
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: my if you saw my house, it's it's almost gray

453
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: garden sometimes over there. But you know it, I am

454
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: not uptight about that sort of thing. But you're right.

455
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: It's it's when you're paying for a service and they're

456
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: already they've already messed up. The least they can do

457
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: is make sure the car is clean and.

458
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: Exactly you know, they got to clean the car.

459
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just and this was like beyond cleaning. This

460
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: was I mean, I was glad that we were able

461
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: to fix the situation. But so did you get your

462
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: money back?

463
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they they did me right good until

464
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: I left you Will Germany. Then I had to sell

465
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: that because you know, when I moved there in twenty sixteen,

466
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: it was like a little over four thousand dollars to

467
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: ship the car, which was why I figured that's no brainer.

468
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: I'll bring the Porsche back to its home where it belongs,

469
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, and drive it. Right. When I moved back

470
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: to the US in twenty twenty one, it was like

471
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: twenty grand to ship it back, so I thought, yeah,

472
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just sell it instead. So I took it

473
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: to the same place, and partly because of me being

474
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: so disorganized, they made me a low ball offer that

475
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: I took. Really I kind of regret it, but I

476
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: used that chunk of that change to buy my house.

477
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: I just I just sent you this, this car that

478
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: I've been looking at, and bring a trailer. And I'm

479
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: always looking at these older Ferraris and and scared that

480
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: you know, they go for fairly affordable prices, sometimes, you know,

481
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: less than one hundred thousand dollars for cars that looks

482
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: so clean and beautiful, And I figure the reason that

483
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: they go for so little, the same is true of

484
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: like a Bentley Continental, right, is that the buyer is

485
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: going to inevitably have to put tens of thousands of

486
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: dollars into it. I think of your Roles, Royce, and

487
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm and it kind of assures me that maybe I

488
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: won't have to. But I saw this nineteen eighty five.

489
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: It's a European spec Ferrari three eight.

490
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Gts, so pretty to me.

491
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: When you say Ferrari, this is what I think of. Yeah,

492
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: because I grew up watching magnum Pi and I desperately

493
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: want one of these cars ever since I drove that

494
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: three fifty five, which is admittedly a newer version. I've heard.

495
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: I've heard that wail I used the gated shifter, and

496
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: I want one myself. But this guy has what looks

497
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: like the cleanest three o eight you've ever seen. And

498
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: he says in the comments that he hasn't changed the

499
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 2: timing belts in thirteen years. Thirteen years.

500
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I see that.

501
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: It's insane because you're supposed to. Ferrari said you should

502
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: change him every three years. And then people are like, eh,

503
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, every five years is fine. Maybe if it's

504
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: a newer belt, they last longer, I guess. So you

505
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: can get away with six or seven.

506
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: But those are going to need some attention.

507
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then and then I have this fear that

508
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: it's going to cost ten thousand dollars. But apparently you

509
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: don't have to take the engine out of this thing.

510
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: And some brave souls just order a belt and do

511
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: it themselves in the garage.

512
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what they just watch a YouTube video or.

513
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll post this, by the way, I'll post this.

514
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: I'll post a picture of this on my Instagram so

515
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: you can see how beautiful. Plus there's a couple of

516
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: days left in the auction, so you can tell me

517
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: if I should bid or not.

518
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: And this has no recorded accidents, no thirty nine thousand

519
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: miles shown.

520
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Yep, it's a I mean, I'm sure it's not going

521
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: to be a fast car, right, it's less than three

522
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: liters v eight it's since it's a car from nineteen

523
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: eighty five, it has I think two hundred and thirty

524
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: horse power, it says in the ad somewhere nice.

525
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: But you know what it's it's so cool, doesn't It's

526
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: so light.

527
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: It's so cool. And the point of it is, you know,

528
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: when I think you made a comment last week about

529
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: the Porsche Cayenne EV, Barry Ridholtz is like, oh, it's

530
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: over a thousand horse power, and Porsche has been Porsche

531
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: has been posting on Instagram that it goes zer to

532
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: sixty and whatever two and a half seconds. But you

533
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: made a point that microwave is going to cook your

534
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: food faster.

535
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: And yet and yet here we are out in the

536
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: backyard drilling it up.

537
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: So I don't care about the speed. I just want

538
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: to have the sound and the vibes and the experience

539
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: of getting there totally. On the other hand, I don't

540
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: want a basket case, right. And the other problem with

541
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: this for me, this is where the height comes into it.

542
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm six three. I think Tom Selleck was six', four

543
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: so a little bit taller than. Me but Apparently magnum

544
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: P i was filmed for eight great. Seasons what an amazing.

545
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: Show And ferrari Initially magnum Or Tom selick sorry wanted

546
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: To porsia nine to twenty eight And porsche refused to

547
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: give them a car for the. Filming, WHY i don't.

548
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Know porsche, was As Doug DeMuro, Says porscha was like

549
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: a hobby shop that wasn't a real business at the.

550
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Time it was just a group of guys that liked

551
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: to make cars In, germany SO i guess they didn't

552
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: see the business. Opportunity, ferrari on the other, hand was, like,

553
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: yes we'll give you a new car every. Season so

554
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: every season they gave him a three. Eight that, way

555
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: it was updated and MAYBE i don't know how late

556
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: the show, went maybe it went to a three twenty eight.

557
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: Eventually but the one thing that they had to do

558
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: to customize the car was they had to shave the

559
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: foam off the seat and then put in new rails

560
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: to move the seat even further back than it. Was

561
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: oh interesting because and also anytime they Filmed Tom selik

562
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: in the, car they had to take off the target

563
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: top because still his head didn't fit under the.

564
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: Roofline, well that is a real consideration and what got.

565
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Me my first classic car THAT i owned was AT Sl.

566
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: Mercedes and the, reason the true reason WHY i never

567
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: kept that car for very, long was because it was

568
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: too short for. Me AND i think it's had some

569
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: seats that weren't, original and they were too they were,

570
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: overstuffed BUT i COULD i could never get comfortable in

571
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: it because my head was touching the. Roof so it's

572
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: a valid concern because that just completely colors your whole

573
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: experience with the. Car if you're not comfortable in that,

574
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: seat even if you can technically fit into, it it

575
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: JUST i get it all.

576
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Right that covers the classic cars we're going to talk

577
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: about the new stuff when we come. Back, well the

578
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: new new Is hannah's trip To Las. Vegas she went

579
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: to see The formula one. Race we'll hear all about

580
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: the dramas surrounding that In Sin city and The volvo

581
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: E x ninety and ex thirties that she's. Driving I'm

582
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Matt miller With Hannah. Elliott you're listening To Hot. Pursuit

583
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 2: I'm Matt miller With Hannah. Elliott you're listening To Hot.

584
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Pursuit AND i never thought we would do one segment

585
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: where we went Mentioned volvo And formula one in the same. Sentence,

586
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: yeah BECAUSE i, MEAN i feel LIKE i remember when

587
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: Hat Kan, samuelson who was A ceo and NOW i

588
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: think is THE ceo again Globally they brought him. Back

589
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: at one point he said they never need to make

590
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: their cars go over one hundred and eighty kilometers an.

591
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Hour, oh, interesting.

592
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: Because they felt like their client tell wasn't that's not

593
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: why you buy A, volvo which is. Fair, interesting which is,

594
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Fair although it just kind of bummed me out because you,

595
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: know in the autobahn where you would you, know seeing Many, Volvos,

596
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: yes a lot of places you want to be able

597
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: to do two.

598
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: HUNDRED i also think some of the wagon bro contingent

599
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: could really get into going quick in A Volvo wagon right, Right.

600
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 2: And now that you have THE ev, versions they do

601
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: go very, fast much like The KYENNE. Ev you, know

602
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: they have the instant torque like EVERY, ev and they

603
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: probably can do zero sixty in less than an Old.

604
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: CARRERA i have to, say you may be disappointed.

605
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Again all, Right so let's let's hear about the E

606
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: x ninety because the design is. Gorgeous it's, RIGHT i love.

607
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: IT i think if you have to get a big,

608
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: suv especially if it's an electric, suv you could do

609
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: far worse than The VOLVO ex. Ninety if we're going

610
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: to talk about that one. FIRST i don't know HOW

611
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: i feel about the wheels the ONE i. Drove they're

612
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: very blade. Like they're of course optimized for aerodynamic. Efficiency

613
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: let me know what you, Think. Matt when you pull it,

614
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: UP i will say to your. Point now THE ex

615
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: ninety comes. In you, know a twin motor and a

616
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: twin motor. Performance they both cost over eighty thousand, dollars

617
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: which is a little bit, expensive and they both weigh

618
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: about six thousand, pounds so a lot of the power

619
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that we get from the electric battery is eaten up

620
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: by the. Weight And volvo is saying on the website

621
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: that zero to sixty is five point seven, seconds which isn't.

622
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: Idea it's not lightning, quick but it's still light. Quick

623
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: it's faster than That ferrari zero.

624
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Sixty, yeah BUT i think we both know which one

625
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: we'd want to we'd rather be seen. In. Yeah but

626
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: but all that to, say if you're going to get

627
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: a big electric, SUV i think The Volvo ex ninety

628
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: is a really strong. Performer you should certainly consider. IT

629
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: i actually love the, interior which is very it's very.

630
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Minimal there is a big screen in the, center but

631
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: they really keep it to one screen and the rest

632
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: is very light and. Airy AND i will be posting

633
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: pictures of these on My instagram account It's Hannah ELLIOTT,

634
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: xo so you can, see for, instance the wheels and the.

635
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: Interiors the wheels are like, pinwheels you, know do.

636
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: You like that or? No i'm not necessarily a. Fan,

637
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i did ask On instagram like if people like,

638
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: them and a lot of people do like, them SO

639
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: i understand there is an, appeal BUT i also, thought

640
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: on a different, note the interior of THE x ninety

641
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: was really beautiful. Too they they are not using leather,

642
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: now they're using all natural textures and renewable. Materials and

643
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: the interior seats of this car are like a really.

644
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful it looks like. Cashmere it's. Not it's a. Gray

645
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: it's a very nice.

646
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: SHOP i like the sculpted look of the seats me.

647
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Too WHEN i hear that it's not that they're not using,

648
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: LEATHER i always go back to your comment on luxury

649
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: where you point out that they have to be real. Materials, Now,

650
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: okay if it's cashmere or if it's you, know any

651
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: kind of wool or, cotton that's a real sure. Material

652
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: and they, Do i'm sure use real. WOOD i mean

653
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: it looks like they could use teak wood in.

654
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: Evolvough, yes AND i KNOW i need to check on,

655
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: this but in previous vehicles they've also used like cork,

656
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: before which is. Interesting and also there are some COMPANIES

657
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: i think will bost on this too where they use

658
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: like recycled paper. Products in THE ex thirty that's the

659
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: smaller electric suv THAT i also. Drove they did an

660
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: interior with recycled denim THAT i also thought looked very.

661
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Cool and THE ex, thirty if we're going to pivot

662
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: to that for just a, second it actually starts at

663
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: thirty eight, grand a little over thirty eight. Grand it's

664
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: like thirty eight three point fifty something in, there WHICH

665
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: i can't. Believe it's that inexpensive of a price for

666
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: AN EV. Suv it's a, small, small BUT i thought

667
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: that was really.

668
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Fair, WELL i mean it depends right how much of

669
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: it is made In china would be my first question

670
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: to THE.

671
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: Ceo does that? MATTER i mean it.

672
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: Doesn't it doesn't, matter LIKE i don't care about the.

673
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Region but you, know a lot Of americans will have

674
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: a problem with. THAT i should, say it doesn't matter to, me,

675
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: okay but a lot of people will have real problems with.

676
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: That AND i think THE ex, THIRTY i should, say

677
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: sorry to, interrupt the E x thirty is made In.

678
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: Belgium THE ex ninety is made In china and Also,

679
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: Ridgeville South.

680
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: Carolina wait do you KNOW i mean the other the

681
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: other way? Around THE ex thirty is made In. Belgium

682
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: oh it, Is, YEAH i, See because they had produced

683
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: it in jang Ji kao In, china AND i guess

684
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: they're shifting, things, yes but of course all those owned By,

685
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: jili which is WHY i would ask the. Question, sure of,

686
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: course AND i don't care where it's, made BUT i

687
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: do want it to be. Quality and you just maybe

688
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: it's a stereotype that's informed by. PREJUDICE i just feel,

689
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: like where'd they make them? Before goldenberg And?

690
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Sweden, YES i just well they still they still make

691
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: some of their vehicles. There it's not.

692
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: These just you get the sense that those old like

693
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: two forties were over engineered and incredibly high. QUALITY i

694
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: drove my two forty Station wagon FOR i think two

695
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand miles without. Oil.

696
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Amazing, WELL i was going to ask if The china

697
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: thing for you was more of a political stance or

698
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: more of a quality of.

699
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Materials, no one hundred percent. QUALITY i have no political.

700
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: Issues AND i also recognized that in some in some,

701
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: ways The chinese have mastered copy being production methods as.

702
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Well so for some, products you, know they make them

703
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: just as well as anybody.

704
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Else everybody says that b Wyde e cars in particular are,

705
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: astounding AND i really want to get into. One, yes

706
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: anyone says it's. INCREDIBLE i hear.

707
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: That FROM us CEOs. So but there's something that a

708
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: lot Of americans will not appreciate about A chinese made.

709
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: CAR i, mean for one, thing you, know labor standards

710
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: just are not the same In china as they are

711
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: in The western. World so it depends how you feel

712
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: about what people are getting, paid what they're being made to.

713
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: Do but that's a one way to keep the cost,

714
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: down you, know and that's for, decades that's what we've.

715
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Done so it's. INTERESTING i just to me the combination

716
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: of not engineering it for, speed keeping the cost down

717
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: by doing a lot of manufacturing In, china and THEN

718
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: i look at the, interior which the design of it

719
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: has always been, beautiful but they kind of miss the

720
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: mark on the infotainment with me every. Time and in

721
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: the new vehicle as. Well The ex ninety has a,

722
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: giant you, know vertical screen like a big forward lightning

723
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: or like A dodge you, Know RAM, trx which are

724
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: Not i'm not SAYING i don't like those, products BUT

725
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: i don't like this huge vertical screen like someone just

726
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: glued an iPad to the middle of my. DASHBOARD i.

727
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: AGREE i actually do agree with, that AND i also

728
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: IT i think it's a miss that you have to

729
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: go in multiple layers into the screen in order to

730
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: adjust side, mirrors in order to address the steering. Wheel

731
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: you have to literally punch through multiple layers in that

732
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: system before you can even. ADJUST i DON'T i think

733
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: that's a. MISS i think you should have some sort

734
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: of Tangible.

735
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean we've talked about it a million, times

736
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: AND i think most automakers are realizing they need to

737
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: turn this. Back it's just. Hard it takes forever to do.

738
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: It and but it's a great contrast To formula one

739
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: because they've got a button for everything in those.

740
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Cars, yeah they. Do and it was kind of a wild.

741
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: WEEKEND i, mean we don't have to report the. News

742
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: everyone knows max verstaff in one and also kind of

743
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: now has a chance to win the whole thing or

744
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: two races, left so it Was, ah both McLaren cars

745
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: were cancer or were. Disqualified they were, canceled they were,

746
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: disqualified and the main race that.

747
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: Round has not been canceled.

748
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Yet, no, no he has. Nothing, yeah well yeah. Exactly

749
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: BUT i will say this weekend AT f one was so.

750
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: Intense the amount of corporate partnerships matt that are happening is.

751
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: Insane And i'm not just talking about the one billion

752
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: dollar partnership WITH lvmh And mattel And Hot. Wheels i'm

753
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: also talking about The lego, partnership the Hell kiddie partnership

754
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: WITH f One, academy WHICH i have a lot of

755
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: mixed feelings. About.

756
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: WAIT f One academy is for women, racers?

757
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: RIGHT i hate THE i hate the term women.

758
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: Racer, okay so that is.

759
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: Offensive, no it's not your, fault but this term is.

760
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Racer but they're not allowed to be a.

761
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: Dude, right they can't be a?

762
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: Dude why is the default? Dude you don't say women?

763
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Doctor you, know because lady? Journalists?

764
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: No? Because, okay, okay but Listen formula, one the main,

765
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: series there's no gender. Limit you can be whatever gender

766
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: the team, wants, right.

767
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Well the trans.

768
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Driver what in IN f One academy there is a

769
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: specific gender that you have to be or identify as

770
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: before you're allowed to. Race? Right AM i wrong about? That?

771
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: No you're not. Wrong, Okay so This i've turned this

772
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: over in my head since they announced. It it's led

773
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: By Susie wolf who's married To Total, wolf who we all.

774
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Love we Love, susie we Love. Toto they're a power.

775
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Couple they're.

776
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: Amazing they smell.

777
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Delicious, yes they've gotten so well, dressed clean teeth and polished,

778
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: hair and they sleep it every night ten hours and they're.

779
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: Perfect BUT i have so many mixed feelings about this whole.

780
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: ACADEMY i think it's.

781
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Great why it's. Segregated it. Is i'm instantly going to

782
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: take the opposing view of, you just because it's my knee.

783
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Jerk thank. You but it is. Segregated BUT i think

784
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: it's okay to do it for a little while while

785
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: women need a leg, up or rather a more specific

786
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: funnel to get them onto the Real Grand prix center.

787
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Stage because right now there's probably some kind of Institutional.

788
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm, twitching keep, going keep.

789
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Going sexism that exists and keeps them out of them.

790
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: Event i'm trying my hardest to argue what from the left, Here.

791
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: So how does keeping them in their own series fight

792
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: the sexism that is keeping them out of the main.

793
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: Event, yeah, NO i don't disagree with.

794
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: You here's the here's the PROBLEM i have with.

795
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: It even worse is Getting Hello kitty to be a.

796
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: SPONSOR i agree to be.

797
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Pink, well it's so. Infantilizing, infantilizing, YES i on The Hello.

798
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: Kitty i'll address that. First The Hello. KITTY i, understand

799
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: on the one, hand you're trying to get little girls

800
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: excited about, racing So Hello kitty makes, sense and you

801
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: have A Hot wheels, Partnership you've got A lego. Partnership

802
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Hello kitty is another, toy, sure but there's something just

803
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of revolting to me as a red blooded woman

804
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: to have a pink baby Doll Hello kitty attached to

805
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: the women's only Driving academy because it gives yet another

806
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: avenue to just brush it off as it's for, girls

807
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: AND i think you want to be taken seriously as

808
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: a racer and as a, driver and you don't want

809
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: to give any opportunity to just be brushed. Off AND

810
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: i feel like there's a little bit of a we

811
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: can pat ourselves on the back as f one because

812
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: we've created this, academy so we've done the good, thing

813
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: and we're supporting women and we're supporting our, goals and

814
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: now we can move. On and it seems it's not.

815
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: Performative it's bringing in a lot of, money and it's

816
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: allowing people, like for, Instance Leah, block who's actually going

817
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: to leave. This she announced she was leaving the. Series

818
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: this Is Ken block's. Daughter Ken block is an amazing.

819
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Driver Jim conney. Exactly his daughter has been in the

820
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: series for. Tears she's actually leaving the, series she. Announced of,

821
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: course it gives them exposure and. Experience but here's the.

822
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Problem Leah block does off road, riding driving and. Rallies

823
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: she had not even been brought up racing or driving in,

824
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: carts and she was coming at it from a completely different.

825
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Avenue why not just get little girls in carts the

826
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: same as little boys would be in. Carts why do

827
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: YOU i don't here and the other.

828
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: THING i don't. DISAGREE i just feel like.

829
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: They're probably smarter in the same, avenues.

830
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: Better equipped people to take the other side BECAUSE i

831
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: think YOU'RE i think You're it's just it's in a

832
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: lot of, senses it's reverse.

833
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Almost, yes it can bring in it can bring in.

834
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: Money it's certainly good for partnerships that will bring in.

835
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: Money but here's another. Problem On friday night or was It,

836
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: saturday you, know the. Sorry, saturday they had a, suit

837
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: they had the academy drivers out on, track and two

838
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: of them crashed into each other before the race even.

839
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: Started and that to me is a sign that they're not.

840
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Prepared to, me how are they not being supported by

841
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: their trainers and their teams that they're crashing before the race.

842
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Starts how is that good for? Anybody AND i don't

843
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: even fault the. DRIVERS i fault they're not being. Prepared

844
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: so this may maybe gets me in, trouble BUT i

845
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: IN i want to obviously see some women formula, drivers

846
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: But i'm not sure this is the.

847
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: AVENUE i hear. You ALTHOUGH i will say that even

848
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: the most experienced drivers can have those kind those kinds of.

849
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: Accidents In MOTO gp last, weekend we saw an accident

850
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: on the starting grid before the race started because one

851
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: rider ran into another he just wasn't like paying. Attention,

852
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: yes and both of those riders were, experienced have been

853
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: In MOTO gp for years and. Years, yes so it does.

854
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Happen but, yeah and you're totally, right.

855
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: It's, true and it does. Happen it could happen to,

856
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Anyone it could happen To Lewis. Hamilton but the problem

857
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: is those. Drivers they have to be like, above they

858
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: have to be perfect, because as any woman, knows when

859
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: you're in a field that's dominated by men and you're

860
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: one of the few, women every mistake you make is

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Speaker 2: Reality WELL i applaud, You Hannah. Elliott and on that,

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Speaker 2: Matt and actually TODAY i was talking to a global

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Speaker 2: Other SO i thought that was pretty. Interesting we've got

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Speaker 2: to get over. There, otherwise don't don't watch my. Show

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt miller along With Hannah. Elliott we'll back in

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Speaker 2: your podcast feed again next.

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