Speaker 1: So I didn't. I didn't completely get canceled last time
Speaker 1: I spoke about Mega Markel. But the thing is, I
Speaker 1: don't want to not speak on something if it is
Speaker 1: occurring to me, if my girlfriends are talking about it,
Speaker 1: if people are secretly talking about it. And then, like
Speaker 1: when I talked about Kim Kardashian, I don't want to
Speaker 1: shy away from something that I have an opinion on
Speaker 1: if I'm hearing moms talk about it, if uh, like
Speaker 1: I said, my girlfriends and my staff have an opinion
Speaker 1: on it. Um, So let's get into Mega Markel. I
Speaker 1: want you to know that I don't know that much
Speaker 1: about her. I mean, I know what I read in
Speaker 1: the headlines, and I know that you know, the Daily
Speaker 1: Mail and the Post is always writing uh negative things
Speaker 1: that the Peers Morgan's and the Megan kelly are always
Speaker 1: sort of on one side of it become oddly like
Speaker 1: a political thing. They're on one side of it. And
Speaker 1: then the liberal media, you know, everything Megan does is
Speaker 1: you know, the People magazine amazing spread. So it's very divided.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that certain things like wearing masks and
Speaker 1: getting vaccinated became completely political when you could be a
Speaker 1: Democrat that wants to not get vaccinated and a Republican
Speaker 1: that wants to get vaccinated. And you could be a
Speaker 1: person that likes Megan Markle that's a Republican or a
Speaker 1: Democrat that doesn't. So it's just funny how these other
Speaker 1: things become political, Like it's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: Like liberal media some I guess like Megan Markel and
Speaker 1: conservative media doesn't. And it makes you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to me like that there
Speaker 1: are party lines on an individual, especially someone who's not
Speaker 1: a politician. But Megan Markel is certainly polarizing. And we're
Speaker 1: in a different era now. And Wallace Simpson, you know who,
Speaker 1: her husband gave up the throne for her, where there
Speaker 1: wasn't all this different media in a way to kind
Speaker 1: of get your voice out there and market yourself and
Speaker 1: things like that. So back then they were pariah's they
Speaker 1: left the royal family and Megan and Harry get to
Speaker 1: do Oprah and have a voice and have podcasts and
Speaker 1: so it's just a different time. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: was back then, what it would be. So racism is
Speaker 1: real in this country and all over the world, undeniable,
Speaker 1: UM depression, mental illness, UM, homophobia is really there are
Speaker 1: issues that are real that you can have an opinion
Speaker 1: on a topic and not be ignoring those. So my
Speaker 1: opinion is that, um, if there was rampant racism in
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace in the royal family, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I would be so surprised. Isn't it the whitest, most
Speaker 1: stocratic royal family, Like, I'm not so so it was
Speaker 1: great Webb Megan entered that family because it was modern
Speaker 1: and it was movement and it was changed and people
Speaker 1: embraced it and loved it. Whatever I wasn't there, So
Speaker 1: whatever she experienced, let's just say that that was totally real.
Speaker 1: Now across the board, press seems to feel that there
Speaker 1: was a lot embellished in other areas, um, whether it's
Speaker 1: events of a fire or never knowing who Harry was
Speaker 1: or having no knowledge of the royal family and then
Speaker 1: be photographed in front of the palace on a trip,
Speaker 1: and there are many discrepancies. You had a secret wedding,
Speaker 1: but then the priest or whoever, the clergyman said that
Speaker 1: it wasn't a real Well, like there's a million there
Speaker 1: are million opinions back and forth about what's true. And
Speaker 1: there are fifty shades of truth in this uh Roy exit.
Speaker 1: But some things do confuse me. So let's say at
Speaker 1: every Thanksgiving table, there are political arguments. There are uncles
Speaker 1: that uh don't like Jews, don't like get maybe uncles
Speaker 1: and aunts don't like Jews, don't like gays, don't understand
Speaker 1: another bathroom in a school for a second grader, don't
Speaker 1: understand pronouns, don't understand a white man and a black
Speaker 1: woman being together. Like. There are members of families and
Speaker 1: and by the way, you know, we've all experienced that
Speaker 1: where you can't believe you're embarrassed of a family member,
Speaker 1: like you can't believe that they have these ridiculous views,
Speaker 1: these crazy views, because they're old, set in their ways,
Speaker 1: not educated, ignorant, et cetera. So let's just say that
Speaker 1: that's Megan's experience. It is her husband who she loves, family,
Speaker 1: and so some people. I asked my girlfriend today I
Speaker 1: was walking on the beach. I said, what is it
Speaker 1: that bothers you so much about Megan? Like? Why do
Speaker 1: you hate her? I said to my friend. She said,
Speaker 1: because I can't believe that she would go so hard
Speaker 1: for so long on this about her husband's family, which
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, that's interesting. And she said she got
Speaker 1: what she wanted and it wasn't good enough. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: how would she know going into a royal family if
Speaker 1: there was going to be racism? I mean, how would
Speaker 1: she know that that was going to happen? And she said,
Speaker 1: you're entering into the Queen of England's home like that. There.
Speaker 1: This is an aristocracy and it's the most archaic, antiquated
Speaker 1: um system in the world. That doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 1: gonna want to change it. That doesn't mean we're going
Speaker 1: to accept things in society and just say oh, that's
Speaker 1: the way that is, and we're just gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: Like in the NFL, you can't, you know, refuse to
Speaker 1: take a knee like people have to take a stand.
Speaker 1: We get that, but she feels that Megan wants an
Speaker 1: Ola Carte menu. That was my friend said to me
Speaker 1: today because I wanted to know what the problem is
Speaker 1: far because I said it. She's a very polarizing person.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's okay to have your own podcast
Speaker 1: and want to make money. You want to be a capitalist,
Speaker 1: you and Harry against the World, making hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars on Spotify, on Netflix. You know, go for
Speaker 1: the American dream. Leave the Brits, go for the American dream.
Speaker 1: You want to be friends of famous people. You weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to go out, you weren't allowed to take designer goods,
Speaker 1: live your life. You were on a game show holding
Speaker 1: a briefcase, and then you were on a show that
Speaker 1: wasn't wily No, and I had never seen it or
Speaker 1: really heard of it. Um, And it's also okay to
Speaker 1: marry someone and and become a duchess. Like good for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that that that's every little girl wants to
Speaker 1: be a princess and you got to be a duchess.
Speaker 1: Wonderful to me. More used to be on General Hospital.
Speaker 1: I was in the cover of Forbes magazine. I used
Speaker 1: to be on The Housewife's making seven thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: year and wasn't saved by the bell p A. We
Speaker 1: all have had a pass. Kim Kardashian, you know, was
Speaker 1: in a sex tape, like we all have had a past.
Speaker 1: So I don't think the problem is that um Megan
Speaker 1: is now a duchess and some people talk about that.
Speaker 1: Oh well she you know she not so long ago
Speaker 1: she was opening briefcases like who cares? Like great, go
Speaker 1: for yours, go all the way. What I do think, though,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is I think people don't like Megan
Speaker 1: Markle because I think she talks down to other people.
Speaker 1: I think she's sanctimonious, and I think there's this subtext
Speaker 1: of elevation. She's up there, we're down here. She just
Speaker 1: has institutional knowledge on life and has experienced more than
Speaker 1: any of us. She's been compared to Nelson mandela Um.
Speaker 1: She's very self important, and she's very much like a housewife,
Speaker 1: and that she can't stop talking about the very thing
Speaker 1: that she wants to be irrelevant. And if she were
Speaker 1: on the show, the producers would say, stop talking about
Speaker 1: security and and and the state of more cottage. It's
Speaker 1: not relatable. Most people don't have a security detail. So
Speaker 1: while that may be a real concern for you, it's
Speaker 1: just not something that really is going to play to
Speaker 1: this audience. She wants to sort of like eradicate and
Speaker 1: erase the royal family and you know, take them down
Speaker 1: and have a voice and talk about everything that happened,
Speaker 1: which is a cautionary tale, and it is good for
Speaker 1: people to know that racism exists everywhere, but that's not
Speaker 1: something we're surprised by. Like if you tell me that
Speaker 1: racism exists in the royal family, I'm not like bold
Speaker 1: over with shock. Okay, So you got out of there. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got out. Um, but it is your husband's family,
Speaker 1: and you keep beating the same you keep beating the
Speaker 1: same storyline. So you want to be a voice for change,
Speaker 1: a woman for female empowerment to talk about racism and
Speaker 1: how unacceptable it is. A bill it is what it's
Speaker 1: like to be a woman um of color. Okay, so
Speaker 1: do that, So do that in the future. Why do
Speaker 1: we keep in these nuanced subtle ways, keep referencing things
Speaker 1: that happened in the past with this one family that
Speaker 1: doesn't reflect most of the world, Like it's not relatable.
Speaker 1: If I call you and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you can't imagine what Madonna, Tom Cruise share uh and
Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford's said to me in my experience recently, Like
Speaker 1: how is that going to like help everybody? Like it's
Speaker 1: such a specific except I was I was on a
Speaker 1: show where I held a briefcase, got myself to be
Speaker 1: an actress, married myself a prince, became a duchess, was
Speaker 1: treated with racist like we're not that shocked and to to,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that they're So I think
Speaker 1: that there's a non relatable factor in the way that
Speaker 1: we're being spoken to and in that like poised orchestrated elegance,
Speaker 1: in that mimicking of Diana, in that you know that
Speaker 1: Caroline Bessett Kennedy intentional, very natural, very slow, intentional speech
Speaker 1: being a guest at the word diva, like you know,
Speaker 1: who are you relating to? I? I just so none
Speaker 1: of my friends relate to Megan Markel. Okay, we would,
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't we We feel like we'd be
Speaker 1: sort of subtly talked down to. And like I said,
Speaker 1: it's happened on the Housewives when someone believes that they're
Speaker 1: just elevated from you in many different ways, and it
Speaker 1: makes you feel uncomfortable because you want to say, who
Speaker 1: do you think you are? You're not better than me.
Speaker 1: So I think that Megan Markele, it's not the message,
Speaker 1: it's the messaging. That's what I think about Megan Markle
Speaker 1: on that when you're on the Housewives. I want to
Speaker 1: separate from the Housewives. It was toxic. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be part of the drama. Whatever the housewife says.
Speaker 1: Right then you're in ninety six interviews for the next
Speaker 1: five years, always talking about the very thing you're trying
Speaker 1: to extricate yourself from. Okay, I want to separate myself
Speaker 1: from the Royal family. I was treated horribly subtle. I'm
Speaker 1: going to do these in these hidden messages, this morse
Speaker 1: code to the public. That's not going to directly say
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but everybody in the Royal family and
Speaker 1: in Great Britain understands exactly what I'm saying. So like, like,
Speaker 1: at least say rip the goddamn band aid off. Say
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of assholes. They're uptight, white racist,
Speaker 1: white supremacist asshole, Like come out say it a dopte
Speaker 1: But like these nuanced I want my privacy, but I
Speaker 1: want a podcast. I want my privacy, but I want
Speaker 1: a Netflix special. And there's a million things I could
Speaker 1: say about it. I had a very a list celebrity,
Speaker 1: very wealthy person call me when I commented on Megan
Speaker 1: Markle before the Oprah interview um and said to me,
Speaker 1: can you please take down what you said? They can
Speaker 1: barely stand up in frog More Cottage and they can't
Speaker 1: afford their security. So at that time, I didn't know
Speaker 1: all the deals of her being made. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that the head of Disney was being pitched by Harry
Speaker 1: for Megan to be you know, the voice of Jasmine,
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell they were doing. I didn't know
Speaker 1: all of that. And by the way, that's all sort
Speaker 1: of the caddy stuff that doesn't really matter. But when
Speaker 1: you leave the Royal family, leave the Royal family, it's
Speaker 1: behind you. You learned something, you said it, We heard you.
Speaker 1: You say things, you say the same thing five times,
Speaker 1: five different ways. You're probably not changing the Royal Family,
Speaker 1: like with repeating the same information. We heard the message,
Speaker 1: we got it. We know you're on the Housewives, we
Speaker 1: know you left, and by the way, you could say
Speaker 1: this to me. But I'm not pretending to be better
Speaker 1: than anything. Okay, So I left the Housewives. I left
Speaker 1: because it was toxic, and when I'm interviewed, I discuss it.
Speaker 1: But I tried to rinse and try to separate as
Speaker 1: much as I can. You left the Royal family, and
Speaker 1: in every single interview you do, you are talking in
Speaker 1: some nuanced subtext or slightly direct way about the royal family.
Speaker 1: Let it go, elsa move forward, create change in the future,
Speaker 1: and leave that family behind because it's only creating more
Speaker 1: drama for your husband. I don't listen. Taylor Swift is
Speaker 1: the woman who does like sing about certain men in
Speaker 1: her songs and everyone's wondering who it is. Um, you
Speaker 1: know the song You're So Vain by Carly Simon. People
Speaker 1: for years like as a Wayne Newton, was it? Um
Speaker 1: Warren Beatty. That's for those of you under nine. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna know that reference. But anyway, Taylor Swift dropping
Speaker 1: the album on Kim Kardashian's birthday, I do not think
Speaker 1: that that was intentional. I think that was a date.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there are three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five days of the year, and if you pick a day,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on someone's fucking birthday. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that Taylor's Swift was like, hmmm, let's send a hidden
Speaker 1: Morse code message and have it on Kim Kardashian's birthday.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't be on Kanye's birthday? Then it just seems
Speaker 1: too nuanced and weird. It's like so forced. Everybody has
Speaker 1: to make something out of something. I literally got engaged
Speaker 1: February twelfth, I think it was, and I want to
Speaker 1: say March a new season of The Housewives was announced
Speaker 1: or the new trailer dropped, and I was in Boca Ratone,
Speaker 1: where there's never paparazzi, and for some reason that day,
Speaker 1: because I guess I had been posting maybe on my story,
Speaker 1: there was a paparazzi that got me in the ocean
Speaker 1: with my ring. Months later and it came out and
Speaker 1: it was I announced my engagement on the day that
Speaker 1: the Housewives tailer came out. What the funk are you
Speaker 1: talking about? I got engaged six weeks before that. I
Speaker 1: never announced my engagement. I never announced my engagement because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do the whole bullshit like Beach
Speaker 1: Rose pedal orchestrated get involved in my relationship engagement announcement.
Speaker 1: It was weeks later, and it just am out on
Speaker 1: that day because you know what, there are three days
Speaker 1: in the year, and one of those days is gonna
Speaker 1: be the day of the trailer drops, and maybe I'm
Speaker 1: in the beach with a goddamn giant ring, like it
Speaker 1: was ridiculous and it doesn't matter. But I just do
Speaker 1: not think that Taylor Swift would drop on Kim Kardashian's birthday,
Speaker 1: go right to the goddamn I of the storm and
Speaker 1: drop on Kanye's birthday. People did have an issue with
Speaker 1: Jailo performing at her own wedding. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to laugh, like you're working at your wedding. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: did she have like a rider like things that were
Speaker 1: I want red vines and I need salted cash shows,
Speaker 1: I need my backup dancers. I mean, it's just Jailo
Speaker 1: performed at her wedding. It's just and she went to
Speaker 1: another big, massive city with her husband, who seems to
Speaker 1: be a little uncomfortable with so much media, Like can
Speaker 1: I make a suggestion and unsolicited suggestion? Can you just
Speaker 1: go to the Maldives or something like there aren't that
Speaker 1: many people and be romantic like walking through Malan in August.
Speaker 1: That literally sounds like my idea of hell, walking through
Speaker 1: Malan in August, hot long pants, hats, like it's just
Speaker 1: attention paparazzi. It just sounds interesting. Love is blind