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Speaker 1: This story out of Cincinnati, which is crazy, Bengal source

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Speaker 1: I heard about this, and you know, evidently this is

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Speaker 1: and I have absolutely nothing to do. We have absolutely

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Speaker 1: or shoot or anything. I've never even seen any of

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Speaker 1: we have zero involvement with. This is something that you'd

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Speaker 1: your advance We've never seen anything that they've shot other

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Speaker 1: I guess there's some kind of thing that they do

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Speaker 1: them about there's exactly what the project was. But from

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Speaker 1: football standpoint, we have absolutely nothing to do with the

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Speaker 1: but that's that's There's no involvement whatsoever with them. I've

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Speaker 1: in any capacity. Albert Brier reporting the NFL official took

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Speaker 1: the Paths video guys SD card away from the camera.

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Speaker 1: what I understand that we've given them everything that um,

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Speaker 1: you can't do it from up there? No, A scout

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Speaker 1: can't film. Um. The opponents is an advanced scout and

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Speaker 1: our video people are not even allowed to point a

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Speaker 1: That's what it seems like at as far as what

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Speaker 1: I have enough other stuff to do. And so what

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Speaker 1: So let me make this trying to let you make

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Speaker 1: did you say that I think that's what it was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well what made you think that? Was it? Just the

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Speaker 1: and we did. You know, Butler made a good play

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Speaker 1: and they came free. So all right, Bill, thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming down. Good luck in Cincinnati. We'll catch you back

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Speaker 1: here on Monday. All right, sounds good. Thanks a good coach,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, right here on NOMF