1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: For the second time in franchise history, the Los Angeles 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Rams are Super Bowl champions, but for the first time 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: actually in Los Angeles. Welcome everybody to move the sticks. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Following Super Bowl fifty six Rams victory over the Bengals, Right, 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Louis or Rnafel Scouts, Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks already to 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: rock and roll here for you guys. This was I 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: think this was my second ever Super Bowl, just going 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: in and getting to see a little bit of the 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: action from inside the venue. The last one I went 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: to was the Patriots Giants Part two Super Bowl forty 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: UM and so to see the spectacle that was happening 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: inside so Fi Stadium DJ UM, even though I was 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: only there for a quarter before having to go do 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the network duties. Man, it was pretty special. Yeah, that's 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Man. I've been fortunate enough to to be 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: five or six or these things, but that that stadium 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: is so incredible and getting to be in there doing 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: the doing the Charger games is cool, but the Super 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: Bowl just took it up to It's a whole different level. Man. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: MJD and we're talking before the game, just all the 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: different things they've added in the stadium for for the 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But Buck, I mean Buck, you know man 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: thing as a as a player, like it's so it's 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: so cool, and when you really don't have a rooting 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: interest in the game, to see somebody and you know, 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you have won the Super Bowl, to see somebody that 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: you look at these guys who think about this since 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: they're four or five years old, and then all of 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: a sudden, man, you get to cash that in. It's 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool now. I look, it's it's really interesting in 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: terms of watching it, you know, like um to build 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: up to the game. Uh. I was listening to NFL 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Radio and they were talking about how the Rams have 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: been advised like, hey, we're not going to go out 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: early being kind of chill. We don't want to burn 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: up all of that emotion. And they're saying the Bengals 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: out like early, they were atmosphere, they're running around and 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: they're doing all of this other stuff. And you know, 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: I think there's something to learning how to play and 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: handle that environment. Even though I don't necessarily believe that 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: it adversely affected the Bengals, I think there's something to 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: being able to play on that big stage, and the 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: more that you're able to play on it in a 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: short span, I do believe it is advantageous because you 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of are able to treat it like another game. 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: And for the Rams to have a home game, the 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: advantages that they had being able to stay at home 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: all week, to set their own facilities, sleep in their 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: own beds, and all those things. I mean, it didn't 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: reflect in the score, but I felt like it was 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: a huge advantage in terms of the preparation part of it. 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I agree. So I think we should kind of break 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: this down, you know, half by half, look at what 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: happened in the first half, and then how things changed 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: in the second half, and of course that final drive. 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: We will break down these Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cups 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: performance you know who was a friend of the program 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: from years and years and years and years and years ago, 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: um as you as you will all remember, and then 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: a quick look at how the Bengals bounce back and 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: how the Rams move forward off the wind. So let's 63 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: start look first half. Headline was obviously Odell Beckham catches 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: the first touchdown of the game and the Rams go 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: up and then Odell goes down and things don't feel 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: as great for the Rams, and uh DJ, how did 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: you see? First, let's start with how O'Dell was impacting 68 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: this game early obviously with the score and a couple 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: of big explosive plays, and then how you saw it 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: kind of fizzle when he left. Well, I thought going 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: into this game that the Bengals were vulnerable in two areas. 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: First of all, was on the outside at corner. I 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: thought that there were some matchups that would really favor 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: the Rams. And then I thought on the other side, 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: it was the Bengals offensive line. How in the world 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: are they gonna block this front from the Rams? And 77 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: it was interesting because it kind of saw it in 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: different waves, and that first half with Odell early, when 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you had a healthy Odell out there with Cooper Cup, 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: it was a kind of a pick your poison type 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: situation and they were able to attack them. And I'm 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: telling you, guys that when you haven't had a chance 83 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: to go back and watch the tape yet, but they 84 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: were even throwing the next gen stats up on the 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: the board inside the stadium, and it was like average 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: yards of separation and the difference between the separation that 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the Rams were getting versus what the Bengals were getting. Now, 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals were hitting big plays and making things happen. 89 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Those are contested catches. There were dudes running free all 90 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: over the place early in that game, and Stafford hit 91 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: some he missed. He missed a couple one or one 92 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: or two times. He got a little bit of pressure. 93 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: He couldn't see it, couldn't find it. Um, But they 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: couldn't cover those guys on the outside when Odell was 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: out there, when he went out of the game, now 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: it was like okay. Then you know, they tried Stafford 97 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: tried to play as if he was still in the 98 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: game instead of force feeding Cooper Cup which will get 99 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: to later, but Buck when he's just trying to find 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, go through the progression like they didn't have 101 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: another guy, Like there was nobody. It was Ben Scronic 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: out there. Who's you know, he's a great special teams player. 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: He can't catch, so what do you do there? You know, 104 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: it was amazing about it is We talked about the 105 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Rams and their star power, but I think what we 106 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: saw in that game is how like being top heavy 107 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: can't impact you once one of your stars goes out. Um, 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because we had kind of treated 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Odell like a bit player for most of the season, 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: and then you saw the value when he's not on 111 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: the field. And it also seemed like the Odell that 112 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: we were getting on Super Bowl Sunday was classic Odell, 113 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, like it was like he was like 114 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: he was about to have a month agon because he 115 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: was fully lathered up and ready to go. And as 116 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: we talked about it, the matchups just were not in 117 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals favor because I was like, if Eli Apple 118 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: is going to have to cover Odell Beckham Jr. He 119 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: made and he was well on his way to having 120 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: a big day. And you're right, because I felt like 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford had been probably had been pounding into his head, Hey, 122 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: solve zone, just take what the defense gives you, check 123 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: it down and do those things. But when you removed O'Dell, 124 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: the checkdowns became negative plays. And to his credit, I 125 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: do understand why Sean mcbe was trying to run it. 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: The being was dominated the game in the line of 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Scripten dominated the game in the I mean year Hendrickson 128 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: and Hubbard were on it. I mean it was the 129 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: very first play the game I think was the best 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: run play of the day for the Rams. You guys, 131 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: it was like cam akers for like five yards, like 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: squirted through and that was the That was the way 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson, Logan, his whole family, his whole family was 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: sitting right in front of me. The grandma had I'm 135 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson's grandma jacket on. That's what tipped me off 136 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that it was. That is that what it was. Ok, 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: that's what it was. He's a great player and look 138 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: this kind of it's it's kind of interesting. I was 139 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: getting some text from somebody's in the league and it said, man, 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: this game is gonna really really be bothersome to those 141 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: that think the most physical team wins. Like when you 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: think about offensive line play and just they couldn't get 143 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: any push at all, um, you know, defensively, uh, you 144 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: know the Bengals, and we'll get to their issues in past. 145 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: But they were able to run the ball. They were 146 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: able to they had some you know mix and had 147 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: a couple of ten thirteen yard runs mixed. Yeah. So 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: it was definitely like, Okay, that old adage that we're 149 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: just gonna buck, We're just gonna each up like that. Nah. 150 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: So so so here's the thing DJ like, and here's 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: why if I'm Zach Taylor and I'm the Bengals organization, 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I feel crummy. Uh. We talked about the things that 153 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: you have to traditionally do the win games, like people 154 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: talk about the DBLs, don't beat don't beat ourselves. So 155 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: no turnovers, no penalties, no big plays allowed, any of 156 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the stuff. With the Bengals, by all accounts, they did that. 157 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: And then old school UH coaches would say, hey, you 158 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: gotta run the ball and stop the run. They did 159 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that as well. And so in a game in which 160 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals basically did everything that you say from a 161 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: philosophical standpoint that you need to do the win, they did. 162 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: And they ended up on the short end of the stick. 163 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about them later on. I feel like 164 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: there was a fifteen minute window where they could have 165 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: choked the Rams out. They just needed another score. They 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: needed to they just needed to put a two score 167 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: margin between them and the Rams, and I felt like 168 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the Rams would have fallen apart, you know, And so 169 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate for the Bengals. Yeah, and so the Rams 170 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: end up, you know, going into the locker room at 171 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: the half up by a field goal because they had 172 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: the missed extra point on the the second touch I 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: ended up being a human, huge mess exactly. Um. But 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: then I felt like coming out of the second half, guys, 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: there were like three segments. There was the Bengals opening 176 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, Salva right for the for the first time 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: ever in a Super Bowl, we had a touchdown from 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: scrimmage on the first play of scrimmage of either half. 179 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we've had kickoff returns for scores, right, 180 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: but that was the first time we've ever seen a 181 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: touchdown on the first play from scrimmage in either half, 182 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: and that was Tee Higgins from Joe Burrow for seventy five. 183 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Then you come back and Matthew Stafford has the interception 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: right that bounces off the hands of Ben Scronic, which 185 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: should have been a catch or at minimum, and incompletion 186 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: turns into an interception. And now you're like, oh boy, oh, 187 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: you can feel it. You can feel the momentum. You 188 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: can feel the momentum like changing. And to that credit, 189 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the Rams defense, I supposed to come out there, put 190 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: the fire out, make them kick three another a touchdown 191 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: there and I'm saying, here we go, because then I 192 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: think they could have ran the ball, They could have 193 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: shortened the game, ran the ball and got out of there. 194 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: But then we had a stretch where we had The 195 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: next segment of the of the half was seven straight 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: punts combined from both teams at three possessions for the 197 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: Rams and four for the Bengals that end in punts. DJ, 198 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: At what point were you like, whoa, WHOA? I mean, 199 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: I get the defenses are stepping up here and the Rams, 200 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: who had what seven sacks in the game, six of 201 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: them come in the second half, and that's a part 202 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: of some of those possessions. But man, like, where did 203 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the offenses go? It was what we thought when we 204 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: previewed this game, and we talked about it for an 205 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: entire week, and we would go in a million different directions, 206 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and I felt like we always landed on the same spot, 207 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: which is how you can block these guys. Yeah, they're 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: not they're they're not gonna be able to do it. 209 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: And it's no, you don't want to dog out these 210 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: these offensive linem for the Bengals. But we you know, 211 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: we talked about how you build championship teams and and 212 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: we said, Okay, you don't necessarily need to build. You 213 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: don't need to put Anthony Munos and a Tony Boselli 214 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: as your bookends. You don't need to have that type 215 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: of an office line. You can't have tomato cans, you 216 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: can't have a mark, you can't have somebody to get 217 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: circled when you're playing them going. He cannot block anyone, 218 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: so we are going to isolate our best player on him. 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: The Bengals have two or three of those guys, so 220 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to block with with Von Miller, who played 221 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: his butt off man. And this was another thing we 222 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: talked about that he just turned He just kept turning 223 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: the dial up as he went all through the year, 224 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: especially when he had he had sacks and seven straight 225 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: games or whatever it was he had to last night. 226 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he was it was hockey. He had had 227 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: an assist on two or three more because he was 228 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the disruption that was causing the chaos that led to 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the sack. But they couldn't block him. Obviously, Aaron Donald 230 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: whenever he wanted um A Shan Robinson ended up. He 231 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: played really well as well Leonard Floyd his they were 232 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: just so much better and then early in the game 233 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: what they were able to do was able to spread 234 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: them out and Burrow was getting the ball out quick. Well, 235 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: then what happened is you saw the field starter rink 236 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: and the Rams just said, we're just gonna cover up 237 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: these first window throws, like you know, it's not not 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna give you. They come holding out for a beat 239 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: and and I bet when you go back and look 240 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: at it, and I know the last place is a 241 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: great example. You could see it just watching it live 242 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: on the field. You know, I think, I don't know 243 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: if it was Ramsey that was on Jamar, but he 244 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: had gotten on top of him, and it's it's literally 245 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: home run game over. Bengals win if he has another 246 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: second to throw, because but they just they bet on 247 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: the fact that you're not gonna have that time. All 248 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: the big plays were Joe climbing up and getting away 249 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: buying an electric time bank. That was it. And then 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: we're talking. We're talking about it a lot um with 251 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Sean o'harro and l t as I was doing the 252 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: halftime in the post game covered especially in the second 253 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: half of the post game, it felt like they admit 254 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: an adjustment to get Aaron Donald going and to get 255 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: him more one on one. And we started with putting 256 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: putting the linebacker over the center, right, um, give us 257 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: give us a sense, buck of what that does for 258 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: a player like a d Well early in the game. 259 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: What they were doing is when the center was uncovered, 260 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: he was identifying was working back to nine to give 261 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: extra protection. Well, now by putting the man right over 262 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: top of him, he doesn't have that luxury because he 263 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: has to at least pay attention to the guy in 264 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: front of him to make sure that he doesn't rush. 265 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: And that allowed Aaron Donald to have really like a runway, 266 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: a one on one on the guard and he wants 267 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: both of them too. Oh, he took it whoever, whichever, 268 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: whichever one, which which way you want to go, Aaron? 269 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: And he wore them out doing that. And so give 270 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Riy Morris credit because defensively it was a lot on 271 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: their shoulders because Red you alluded to the fact that 272 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: they were like seven straight possessions with a punt. I 273 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: felt like the Rams blue opportunities because they got the 274 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: ball twice at the fifth yeard and and didn't if 275 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: it didn't do anything with it, and the defense had 276 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: to keep holding serve and had to keep coming and 277 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: holding on and they were able to do it enough 278 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: to give them an opportunity, that final drive to get 279 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: it done. But yeah, Aaron Donald found a way to 280 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: get it done. And I'm gonna say this about Aaron Don, 281 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure we do it. If this dude retires, like 282 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: he's not retiring. Stop, I'm just saying like he's talking 283 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: about it. He was very koit even in this thing. 284 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: If he retires at the topic he wants more cash, 285 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: we need more, you can get it. If if he says, literally, 286 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I have the heart in it, 287 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: you don't think that less come back and say let 288 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: me help. Let me help your heart here a little yeah, 289 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: just thirty mill per help your heart a little bit. Yeah, 290 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I would do. I was like, 291 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: this came out of nowhere, Like he doesn't know he's 292 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna retire eight years in, three times Defensive Player of 293 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the Year, who is absolutely crushing it. Yeah, he's gonna leave. 294 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about ultimate mic drop. I was like, 295 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen a player like 296 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: just yeah, I'm gonna kiss the game goodbye, like Jim Brown, 297 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeahs Barry the whole thing. Calvin Um, oh 298 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: that I mean, it's it would be interesting. But he 299 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: is right, DJ, I feel I feel like you're this 300 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: was probably maybe taking a little bit out of out 301 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: of context. Um, you know, And the same with McVeigh, like, 302 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody, everybody retiring, everybody, everybody, everybody go TV 303 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: and do some other stuff. I mean, he basically said 304 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: no in the in our post game. He also just 305 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: said just for just so you guys know, because they 306 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: just did the famous UM morning after Sean Payton's favorite. Yeah, 307 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: this is so apar with the Shawn thing. Uh and 308 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Sean mcvegees, this is torture. I to do this at 309 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: eight thirty in the morning after winning the Stuper Bowl. 310 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: So that's basically just calling everything special. Um. And here's 311 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: one that I'm gonna leave you with because we're gonna 312 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,359 Speaker 1: get into our the final drive both offensively and defensively 313 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: for the Rams deserves its own segment and we're gonna 314 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: give it to you. But Sean McVeigh on Cooper Cup 315 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: this morning, I'm better as a coach and as a 316 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: person for being around Cooper Cup. Guys like Cooper Cup 317 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: are why you coach, and I think we can all 318 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: all agree on that your Super Bowl m v P 319 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: was the m v P of the final drive for 320 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: sure and certainly the catalyst for the Rams success this season. 321 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: Digg into Cooper and how the Rams sealed this victory 322 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: right after this all right back here with you, I'll 323 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: move the sticks Scooper Cup was the catalyst for the 324 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Rams on that final drive. Obviously it doesn't happen without 325 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, but if not for the fourth and one 326 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: seven yard run on the sweep coming around, As DJ said, 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: you know you kind of feel that coming. You gotta 328 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: find a way to get it into Cooper Cup's hands 329 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: on a play like that to extend the drive on 330 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: what ended up being a fifteen play seventy nine yard 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: drive that of course ended with Cooper Cups fourth reception 332 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: on the drive in a one yard touchdown on a 333 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: little fade stop from Stafford to give them the twenty 334 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: three to twenty lead, one of course, in which they 335 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: held onto Um. He had some big plays in this game, DJ, 336 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: obviously in the first half, some chunk plays Um and 337 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: then I you know, had the touchdown as well. But man, 338 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: that that last drive was special, Like that's that's what 339 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: m vps are, that's no doubt. And to go back 340 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: to some of the earlier stuff, even the production in 341 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,119 Speaker 1: the first half, he he got held a lot many 342 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: They swallowed the whistles a little bit. Really they saw 343 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: the whistles to the last two minutes of the game. 344 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Then they yeah, but it was fun. But I mean yeah, 345 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: And you know the thing about him, I was watching 346 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: him after the play where he gets held on like 347 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 1: a crosser and there's no like he was not real demonstrative. 348 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: He just kind of like jog over the ref just 349 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: real quick and then jog jog back back to the huddle. 350 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: But um no, at the end of the game, guys, 351 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: and I'll get too Cooper specifically, but one of the 352 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: takeaways I wanted to get in there is you think 353 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: about all the teams that we've been associated with, and 354 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: think about those practices, and think about the the mundane 355 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: like training camp practice and you look at the practice 356 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: sheet and it says short yardage, you know, and just 357 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: kind of just kind of blends into the practice, right 358 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: and these but you do short yardage stuff every practice. 359 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: You work on that stuff and that game was such 360 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: a realization to me of I don't even know if 361 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: you can spend enough time on that, don't figured out 362 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: because some teams are so good at it and some 363 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: teams are so astonishingly bad at it. And it literally 364 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: decided a championship what team one team successful in short 365 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: yards the other team was unsuccessful in short yardage. And 366 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here going, I buck, I'll get it to 367 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: you because you've been saying this and since Gosh, we've 368 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: known each other forever. Players not plays, and I'm going 369 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: down with my players. And that's why I'm sitting here going, 370 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't care if Cooper Cup is a tight end, 371 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: a receiver, um tackle. He's your best player. He's getting 372 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: the football on fourth and one, and it's just like, 373 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: what the what the forty Niners who do with Deebo? Samuel? 374 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: You everybody in the stadium would know. I don't care 375 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: where they line Debo up. He's getting the football because 376 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: you trust him. And sure enough he lines up. I 377 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: lean over to my son, I go, yeah, this is 378 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: just sweep Cooper Cup, and then sure enough he short motion, 379 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: then boom he explodes, and then uh and then off 380 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: go So it was getting the ball in his hands 381 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: and then after that it was like he was in 382 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: the zone. And Stafford give him credit as well. He said, 383 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to give Bence Chronick another 384 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: chance like that that ship sailed. We're gonna wear out 385 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and go win a Super Bowl. So here's 386 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: here's what I feel like happened in the game. And 387 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: I know they would never admit it. I feel like 388 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup like went along with the game, 389 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: playing the entire game, and then they're looking up at 390 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: the clock. They're like, hey man, it's two minutes left. 391 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: We're about the trick off for Super Bowl if we 392 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: don't get it done. And I feel like at that moment, 393 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was like, come, hella, how water the ball 394 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: is going to number ten and I'm throwing the number ten, 395 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, we can coach, you can call all these 396 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: plays whatever it is. Wherever Cooper Cup is, I'm doing it. 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: And then where it got out there, even on the 398 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: touchdown he moved Cooper Cup outside because Cooper Cup being 399 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: inside and so yeah, McVeigh, Mike up talk about that, 400 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: and so what I'm surprised at is when O'Dell went 401 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: out with the extended halftime, my expectation someone's that Sean 402 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: McVeigh was going to sit down with Matthew Stafford and 403 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and try and figure out a way, Hey, 404 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: we got to make sure that this guy gets twelve 405 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: targets in this half. So how can we motion them, 406 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: shift them, rearrange the furniture to put him in spots 407 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: to kind of make the bracket tough. And I never 408 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: saw that into the last drive where they just force 409 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: fed Cooper Cup, because I'm saying, man, it seemed like 410 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: the game would have been a lot easier if they're 411 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: just force fed Cooper Cup because you don't catch a 412 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: hundred and forty plus passes without the ball being forced 413 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: in your direction. And so to me, I just wonder 414 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: about Sean mcveigh's game planning, particularly in big games, because 415 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: the second time we've seen it in the Super Bowl 416 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: where it just kind of like it doesn't look like 417 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: the team that we saw entering the game and he 418 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: was built out in this one. But that's something that 419 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: he has to figure out how in these big games. 420 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I can be an asset, not a detriment to the 421 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: offense and the team. Yeah, and look, I I think 422 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. It's I think it's like the sixth 423 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: third st in time or something that you know that 424 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: a wide receiver's won the m v P UM. I 425 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: think it speaks to for for Cooper. I think it 426 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: speaks to you know, like what we've expected of him 427 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: all season, Like he'd have gotten my m v P 428 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: vote just because I felt like this is a year 429 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: where the quarterbacks kind of could have canceled themselves out 430 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: and Brady and Rogers and I I wouldn't see him 431 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: won the m Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. He 432 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: ends up as the O P O Y. He was 433 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: the most uncoverable wide receiver in the game this year, 434 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: and he decided the biggest game. Like it just it 435 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: felt fitting. And I shouldn't say he alone because defense 436 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: had to make a stop at the end. Boys. And 437 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: that's that's why you pay Aaron Donald DJ whatever he wants. 438 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Because now I will say this, if that last play 439 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: where he pressured Burrow into that you know, flailing in completion, 440 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: if that was a sack, and if Donald had three, 441 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: if all the m v P V would have he 442 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: would have been m v P and i'd have and 443 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: probably okay with that too at that point. No, you know, 444 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: but interesting thing is, and this goes back to what 445 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I was just talking about, just you're having that plan 446 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: for those situations. I just didn't feel like the Bengals. 447 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I did not love their play. Didn't love their fourth 448 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: down call in the first half on their side of 449 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: the field, or they gave one up, try to throw 450 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: a spot route like I didn't like that. Then they 451 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: they had another, uh you know, another situation in short 452 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: yards where they went empty and Joe I love that. 453 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Let get get empty, then use him as a runner 454 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: because you fanned everyone out. It's a light box that 455 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: him find the lane and go get two yards. It's 456 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a piece of cake. I thought that's what they 457 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: were going to go back to on that last play. 458 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, so they get they 459 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: have get a big game on first down, so their 460 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: short second short. Then it's the he tries to take 461 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the deep shot to Jamar Chase. They're not on the 462 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: same page. Then you run the ball with p Ryan, 463 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: which I don't like. To me players not play touching 464 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: the ball in that situation. So that was p run 465 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: who rented it wasn't mixed. Yes, that was p Ryan 466 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: last un in the game. Well yeah, and then and 467 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: then got more touches than p run. And then you're 468 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and then you're in side saddle and in the shotgun 469 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: on fourth and short, which to me, you have options. 470 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Like the options are your under center, whether you're gonna 471 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: sneak it or just run a traditional run UM that 472 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: or you can also set up play action off that 473 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: from being under center, or if you're in the gun, 474 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: you are an empty There is no way on God's 475 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: green earth that you have a back back there with you. 476 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: That's just one more defender into the box. Why would 477 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: you Why would you do that? You're not everybody knows 478 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna shotgun run on fourth in the season 479 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: on the line like that's not happening. That has no 480 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: threat of that. Yeah, the ball has to go to 481 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: borrow a couple of things. Um and talking about the 482 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Rams defense, DJ, I think last night it dawned me 483 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: now more than ever when we talk about like building 484 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: a championship team, I think I take the I might 485 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: take the cornerback out of the equation. I think the 486 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: emphasis has to be on the front line, I think 487 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: if I could load it up, if you're telling me, hey, 488 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: you only get a handful of dollars to allocate, or 489 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: a handful of pieces to build your defense, I think 490 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the multiple pass rushes up front because 491 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: I think you can get by with average corners. And 492 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and look, I've been as big 493 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: as advocate for a long time. It's not just me. 494 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Ramsey has lost a step or two. Um. 495 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: I think throughout the postseason we have seen him give 496 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: a big play after big play over the top, and 497 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: when I watch him give a big place, I don't 498 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: know if he can run anymore. And so people will 499 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: talk about Tee Higgins like, oh he faced mask or whatever. 500 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: Elite players are not supposed to be in a position 501 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: where he should be even be close. He should have 502 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: been on top and those things. And I would be 503 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: honest with you, Jamaar Chase almost wins the game. That 504 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: that turnaround, right that Jen he almost wants the game. 505 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I wanted it. I'm watching it and I'm sitting here going, man, 506 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: just I'd rather I'd rather take my chances with you. 507 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: Cut He could have cut it back, like, if they 508 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: tackle you in play, we can, we can. I mean, 509 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: there was still four or five yards from the defender 510 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: when he went out of bounds, and I get it, 511 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: you're saving time, but I'm also like, dude, you are 512 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: a freak show. You're the best players. Let's take our 513 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: chances with that back end trying to tackle you if 514 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: you cut that back, you know, because Jalen is squatting 515 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: on it and Joe Burrow to throw it outside. And 516 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: when Jamarte spins, I was like, oh, because we've seen it. 517 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: We've seen it a million times this year, where he 518 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: catches and runs and he weaves, and I was like, 519 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: he might go to the house. He goes out of 520 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: bounds because he's been conditioned to do it. But I 521 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: just thought in that when when Jalen had asked very loudly, 522 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: I want to check the best guy, and Tee Higgins 523 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: and Jamartes are wearing him out on these deep balls, 524 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: I was like, we might want to pipe down. And 525 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: it was one of those situations where I felt like 526 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: the Rams were forced to play zone because number five 527 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: was becoming more of a liability than an asset in 528 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, and maybe we find out maybe something's 529 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: ailing him, you know, um, you never know because they 530 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: were throwing at him. Yeah. Um, but yeah, look, that 531 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: was actually one of the things. One of the other 532 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: part of the Bengals game plan and the play calling 533 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: that kind of irked me is that after that big 534 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: one handed grab he had in the first half, which 535 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: gets him down to the hand and go back to 536 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: him one three straight incompletions. You know, I'm like, yes, 537 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: back to one, back to one, right, I'd go, you know, 538 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: tempo up to the ball right now, let's get it 539 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: back to him. And they had to settled for three there. 540 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: But look, by the way, can I give you one 541 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: other one other guy, um for for the Rams is 542 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: we're kind of handing them, handing them their flowers. Ernest Jones. 543 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back, We'll find try and find my notes. 544 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: He was in last year's draft, right, he was in 545 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: So he was I was Ernest Jones. Guy. I know 546 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: because I talked to less about him during the process. Um, 547 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: let me see Ernest, No, no, sorry, Ernest was third 548 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: round of last year's draft. What pick? What pick number? 549 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: Was he? Right? One of three? Okay, he was my 550 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine player. This is a This is a classic 551 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: case of don't trust to watch, trust your eyes. So 552 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: he was six o one four and he was too thirty. 553 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: He ran four seven one at his pro day. Well, 554 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: at a pro day usually you will run fast with 555 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: the combine, so that's even you would think, oh gosh, 556 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: it's even worse. He played so much fast in that. 557 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: So here are my notes on him inside linebacker, quick 558 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: flow and fill. He can rush off the edge. He's 559 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: got excellent length to free himself. He killed Kyle Pitts 560 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: at the point of attack in the Florida game. He's 561 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: a violent tackler, he's very athletic and coverage so they benefited. 562 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: And this is again what we'll be talking about a 563 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: lot as we go into the spring. These teams have 564 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: access to all the GPS stuff, you know, we get 565 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: it with the NFL through next ghen these teams. NFL 566 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: teams have it with college players. We don't necessarily get 567 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: our eyes on all that stuff. But everything I was 568 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: told was all his GPS stuff matched up with what 569 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: you saw with your eyes, and the watch was not 570 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: was not great, But they ended up getting a great player, who, 571 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: again is what teams are looking for. And we'll talk 572 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: about this A bunch is length and off the ball linebackers, 573 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: because it's not only a factor, um, you know, being 574 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: able to get off blocks, playoff blocks. It's just it's 575 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: you're clogging lanes in the passing game with all with 576 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: all that length, it's a really good player. And it's 577 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: to me, he's a He's like a little window into 578 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: how they've been able to get this accomplish. We've talked 579 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: about all their stars and how the stars delivered, but 580 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: those stars are filled in with these glue guys, these 581 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: third round, fourth round picks, guys like Ernest Jones. I 582 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: would vention, I would venture to say that less need 583 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: has been the best in football at second and third 584 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: round pick to do out well the second and third 585 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: round picks, and maybe he ends up being, uh, you know, 586 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: a good one. But those I mean, you just go 587 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: down the line haven Stein Acres Cup Acres fan Jefferson, 588 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Ernest Jones. It's just the list goes on 589 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: and that's how you fill out a roster when you 590 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: don't have a first round pick. Yeah yeah, I think 591 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: it's about the coaches and the front office working in 592 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: lockstep to be able to do it knowing what they want. Yeah, 593 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: they they're in and having the Star Wars approach that 594 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: they've had where they're bringing people in. It also takes 595 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: coaches to get those guys on the same page. Sonny 596 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: Michelle coming in, oh, b J coming in the middle 597 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: of the year. Some of the developmental players that we're 598 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: talking about playing well. But I think the guy who 599 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: probably doesn't get enough credit, Eric Weddle, had the green dot, right. 600 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Eric Weddle in five weeks learns the entire defense to 601 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: the point where he is calling it. And DJ and 602 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: I had talked and I can't remember if that inclusion 603 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: in the conversation, but I felt like Eric Weddle was 604 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: a necessary addition because at the point of the season, 605 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey was the call and he had the green dot, 606 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: and I felt like he's far too emotional to be 607 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: the traffic cop in the field, and they had guys 608 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: who were busting coverage, Taylor rapping those guys. When Eric 609 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: Weddle comes, they didn't really have the bust that they 610 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: were having that was that was really plaguing, and like 611 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: Ramsey was given a place, but you didn't have these 612 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: egregious errors. Eric Weddle was an underrated addition that you 613 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think that someone coming off the couch having not 614 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: played two years will be able to come and make 615 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: an impact. He had a huge impact on the game, 616 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: and when he tore his peck, I was like, man, 617 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: how is this guy gonna stay in? But having like 618 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: the first possession, he stayed in the whole game. Is 619 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: can can I can? I can? I ask you guys 620 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: a question. I'm just literally thinking about this. Um. We 621 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: we've seen now McVeigh having been to two and one 622 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: one right, McVeigh, the tree is everywhere, all his guys 623 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: are everywhere, and we're going to continue to see that. 624 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: We've got several guys in this cycle that have gone 625 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: O'Connell and then even from that same you know Tree, 626 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: McDaniels down and uh and Miami Um. They all kind 627 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: of come from that same Shanahan La floor. The whole 628 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: They're all intertwined here. So those guys know that scheme 629 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: and Bucky you know this too. Many they know exactly 630 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: what they want. And you talk to those offensive coaches, 631 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: they want interchangeable receivers. We talk about basketball teams. They 632 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. They look at we 633 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: want guys that can play every single spot and we 634 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: can interchange them. They want off and sup linemen that 635 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: are a certain way, that can move and with the 636 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: with outside zone and do those things. So here's my question. 637 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: We would always have this argument, Okay, you bring in 638 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: a new coach. Hey, I know you have your scheme 639 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: and what you believe in, but here's what we have, 640 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: So why don't you adapt what you do to what 641 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: we have. I think that this success of Sean is 642 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna embolden these guys to say, look, I know what 643 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: I want and I know what I run, and I 644 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: know it works. You might have this player that you 645 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: think that's great, that's been the three Pro Bowls and 646 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: he's been a good player for you. He doesn't fit me, 647 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: so he's out. We're trading him. Trust me, I know 648 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: the guys that I need to get to bring in 649 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: to run my scheme and do what I do. And 650 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we talk about who 651 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the Rams brought in. There's a lot of guys leaving 652 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: too now that they that they traded out, that they 653 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: moved on from, you know, Brandon Cooks of the world. 654 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: So I think that I hope that this is right, 655 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: because it would be fun for us that we will 656 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: see a flurry of activity for teams saying, hey, I 657 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: know this is a great player, Buck, but yeah, what 658 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna run? He he doesn't, he doesn't match. Yeah. 659 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing is like I feel like 660 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: they definitely are like that on offense, but defensively they're 661 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: not like that because Aaron Donald was not a perfect 662 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: fit and they've had three different defensive coordinators doing that 663 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: little run under McVeigh way Phillips, Brandon Staley and then 664 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Rhney Morris and actually Aaron Donald. The way you played 665 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: on the way Phillips is different than the way you 666 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: played under Staley. And so can we put what can 667 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: we put the argument the greatest defensive player of all time? No, no, 668 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: we can't. But I do believe there's something to it 669 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: because we always talk about like a fitting scheme is 670 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: the number one thing when it comes to the evaluation, 671 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: and how do you overhaul a team to be able 672 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: to do it? I think in looking at your example, 673 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: when we look at the Bengals, and it would be 674 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: interesting to see if we sat in with the Bengals, 675 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: particularly on offense, Jamaar chases football i Q Tee Higgins 676 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: football i Q Tyler Board was a holdover, so he 677 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: is necessarily account but Joe mix and hold over to 678 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: But like, I would love to get their collective football 679 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: like you, because the one thing that kind of goes 680 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: with all of those teams it appears that all of 681 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: their skill players are able to handle a heavy workload 682 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: in terms of like mental capacity versusually those things, and 683 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: so I do wonder how they figured that part out 684 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: because I think you have to be a smart player 685 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: to play in that system. On offense, I don't know 686 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: whether their defense is like, but offensively to be able 687 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: to bounce around and play X Z and elephant or 688 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: or eagle to the third receiver, that is not an 689 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: easy deal. You really have to be a conceptual learner, 690 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: not just a guy that like, oh, this is my spot, 691 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: this is all I learned. Right. So, guys, while Super 692 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty six is now over, I mean because this 693 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: has moved the sticks and this next three months is 694 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: what we love. We get a second Super Bowl, which 695 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: is coming up in about three months at the end 696 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: of April, with the NFL Draft combine coming up free 697 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: agency obviously big chance for teams to now try to 698 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: figure out where they want to move into and how 699 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: they can get back to the mountaintop like the Los 700 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams did this year. And so we'll look at 701 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: both these teams. Take a quick break here, look at 702 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: both these teams. Maybe identify one position of priority. I 703 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: think you can guess what we're looking at for the 704 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: since that Bengals, but one position of priority for each 705 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: of these teams as they move forward to try to 706 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: get back to the spot next year when we come back. 707 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: So the Rams are Super Bowl champs. The Bengals will 708 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: now look to regroup and try to bolster their roster 709 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: in efforts to get back to this moment and then 710 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: to be the ones holding the Vince Lombardi Trophy when 711 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: the last game has hit Zeros. But let's start with 712 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: the champs. And as we talked about, it's look, this 713 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: was a study and team building and while they may 714 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: have taken some different philosophies along the way, it ended 715 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: up working for both teams. And big reason why it 716 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: worked for less sneeding company Stars played when they needed 717 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: him to. But they hit on some of those outside 718 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: of the first round picks. A bunch of them right, 719 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: that helped fill out this roster um and became playmakers 720 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: on their own. So, DJ, if you're looking at this 721 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Rams team right now, might have some turnover. We don't 722 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: know what happens with with what's gonna happen with Von 723 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: miller Um sounds like he's gonna test free agency fully, 724 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: so we'll see there. Leonard Floyd has been a nice player. 725 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Are you looking on the defensive side or like the Bengals, 726 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: are you looking for offensive lineman try to help this 727 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: run game. Yeah, I think they've got you know, you've 728 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: got what worth they gotta figure out there and that 729 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: note Boom will step in and fill that spot as 730 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: a good young player. Either centers free agent um, So 731 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: they've got some free agents along that offensive line, I 732 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: think you could look to continue to add their um 733 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: and then defensively, I mean when you look at what 734 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: this offense did in year one with Matthew Stafford, it's 735 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of like we saw with Tom you know, even 736 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: though the didn't win it this year, you saw Brady's 737 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: numbers still for for zilion yards in year two in 738 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: that system, I think Stafford, being younger, I think it's 739 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna be even better offensively next year. So when you 740 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: have an explosive offense like that and you at you know, 741 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: Robert Woods coming back, buck to me like you were 742 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: just saying earlier, I can't have enough pass rushers. Man, 743 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: just just keep loading up because you're gonna be playing 744 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: with the lead more more often than not. Yeah. Yeah, 745 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm loading up, and I'm loading up with the intention. 746 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: Like it's funny you talk about the past rushers and 747 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: the offense getting better with Stafford returning. I think two 748 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: things uh could be in play to make the offense 749 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: really pop. One Robert Woods combined with Odell Beckham Jr. 750 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup You talk about three receivers that are 751 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: dynamic depending on the injury situation for all of the 752 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: because they all have to come back from the Odell Yeah, 753 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: but you know, like he's on record, stand he takes 754 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: like a little cut and with the knee injury, you know, 755 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: we don't know what the knee injury is yet this year. 756 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I think we 757 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: all know what that looked like. But well, it didn't 758 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: look great. It didn't look great, and then that would 759 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: be the second time on that knee. Yeah, it didn't 760 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: look great, so you think about that, But DJ, I 761 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: think you're right because the reason why I want to 762 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: add more pass rushers is if von Miller decides to 763 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: come back and he stays in l A, I want 764 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: to keep him freshman. I want to keep him. I 765 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: want to kind of keep him on the pitch count 766 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: the first half of the season, the first three quarters 767 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: of the season, and kind of break him out of 768 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: the packaging as we get down the stretch, because this 769 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: is that's what he did this year. You talked about 770 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: sacks and seven straight games and the way that he 771 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: was able to kind of and post his will in 772 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: the postseason. I kind of want to do the same 773 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: thing with him. And I would like to also consider 774 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: how can I taper off some of Aaron Donald's minutes 775 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that he is able to dominate down 776 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: the stretch. Because with the seventeen game season and because 777 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: of so long and because they're gonna be in a 778 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: position to be right back, I want to make sure 779 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: that I have my my pieces lined up where we're going. 780 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: So yes, adding a couple more pass wrestlers would certainly 781 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: be on the on the agenda, and then for the Bengals. Look, 782 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: and obviously it starts up front. I think you know 783 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: we're nobody's nobody's hiding that starts and all of it. Yeah, 784 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole deal. I mean, look, Joah Williams. Look, 785 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: they might have a complete Chief style remake of this 786 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: offensive line, and they should. They should be of the goal. 787 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: And Jonah Williams is the guy who sticks right, He's 788 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: the one who sticks around, and then they try to 789 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: figure out the other four sponts. Is that is that 790 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: how you feel each Yeah? I mean the guards, um 791 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: and right tackle. I mean, you've got to you've got 792 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: to get better, um. And the good news is I 793 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: think they can with what they're playing with. I think 794 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: even second, third, fourth round picks, you're going to get 795 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: upgrades in this draft. Like there's some quality depth in 796 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: this in this draft. Draft, all alignment, just everything. We're 797 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: just gonna take every We're gonna we're gonna bring in 798 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: a whole new crew and we're gonna slit him. Well. 799 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I look at you know, we've 800 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: talked about the Chiefs so much, right and how they 801 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: rebuilt it. I saw it doing the Charger games. The 802 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: Chargers went out and made Corey Linds the highest paid center. 803 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: They went out and signed Filer, who's who shored up 804 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: the guard spot. And they went out and drafted Rashawn Slater. 805 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: Um they actually um signed Odeya Bushi who was starting 806 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: until he got hurt in the second week in the 807 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: season or something like that. But they were they added 808 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: three really, I mean all all Pro type player and 809 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: rashawns later all Pro type player and Lensley and a 810 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: really really solid starter and uh and Filers. So I mean, 811 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: that's if the Bengals can do that, even if they 812 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: just say, you know, we're gonna upgrade three of these spots, 813 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, will be in such a better place. Yeah, 814 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: much better place. Like I think it's all about the 815 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: offensive line. I would say, like DJ talks about the 816 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: offense about a corner as well. Though I was going, 817 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: I was going, I was going to that, like, because 818 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: here's the thing. They paid money for trade Waynes. They 819 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: haven't been able to get a return on an investment there. 820 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: The rest of the guys have been kind of freezing. 821 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: Uh Oozier played well for them, but when he had moments, 822 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: uh Eli Apple is the experience on the Island. I 823 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: think they need to upgrade that. But yeah, but if 824 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm the Bengals, based on the way that they played, 825 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: I would just continue to throw more resources at the 826 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: corner position. If they really I mean, if they really 827 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: will on defense and they gotta sign Jesse Bates, we 828 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,479 Speaker 1: we know that, Like they've got some in house stuff 829 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: that they got to take care of their just just 830 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: a quick look ahead, uh, Toron Armstead Orlando Lando Browns 831 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: a free agent, but imagine Casey's gonna figure that out 832 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: and probably on a franchise tag if they have to. 833 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: And then Brandon Sheriff. Um kind of interesting one there 834 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: on the interior um for teams looking for an upgrade, 835 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: do you try to go all in for a player 836 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: like that You've got in the center from Tampa. So 837 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: just there's some there will be some options, but there 838 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: will be some money spent along that offensive line. Um. 839 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps the Bengals are involved in way oh there 840 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: it is like both both coaches. He's Lois Baid, lois 841 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: paid head coach in the National Football League. You think 842 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: he's learned a bump. I think he's learned a bump, alright, Fellas, 843 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: I think I's gonna do it for us here, I'll 844 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: move the stakes. Of course, remember to check out all 845 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: of our draft content over on our on the YouTube 846 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: channel and on the NFL's YouTube channel, and of course 847 00:39:46,920 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: we'll be back with you later this week. You have 848 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: got to love ut