1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: The volume What is Up My People? Three and Out podcast? 2 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: John middle coop here, I knew you subscribe to the 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: podcast three and Out, go subscribe, share it with your friends. 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: It is Friday afternoon, and I'll be honest, I completely 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: forgot that I had to record a mail back because 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: we didn't have Stucky this week, so usually we just 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: record that earlier in the week and then we put 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: it on the weekend. I said I was gonna do 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: a mail back for the weekend on Friday's podcast, and 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: then on like Friday morning, I was doing some stuff. 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Then I went to the gym and I just completely, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, forgot, I'll be honest, completely forgot. Uh. 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: And then I was playing golf and Nappa No big 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: deal beautiful day vineyards. Uh? When when was actually pumping 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: a few a few pops, and my guy Mike that 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: produces this podcast, was like, UM, hit me up about 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: a party that we're having next week for the volume 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: put on by our guy Coward, uh for Super Bowl 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: week in Los Angeles. And then when I saw this 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: text message, I realized, oh my god, I did not 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: record the podcast. So luckily podcasting you can do whatever 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: you want, so it's about six o'clock on Friday night. 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: No big deal. Um, you know this isn't digging ditches. 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: We we can handle it, and I'm gonna record. I'm 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna answer your questions right now. Start with a real 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: hasty at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire up in 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: those direct messages. That's how you get your questions answered 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: on the show. Also, if you've been listening to the 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: golf podcast at go Low pod, is how you get 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: your questions answered there? Very easy, very very easy. Been 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: listening to on the po, been listening on Spotify, really 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: digging the pod? Are you from the Sack area? I 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: am keep on rolling. It would be my dream to 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: be doing what you're doing. However, I have zero experience. 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm in sales. Let me know if you ever have 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a sales gig open would love to interview. Currently in 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: commercial insurance. I am from the Sacramento A Sacramento area, 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: born and raised in Davis, California. Nathaniel Hackett went to 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: school there, you see Davis Aggy's my dad did too. 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean if I I don't need anyone 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: to hire anyone right now, but keep in touch and 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: uh thanks for hitting me up. I love Sacramento was 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: just actually out in Sack last week. Sacramento is booming, 44 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: absolutely booming because during COVID, everyone in the Bay Area 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: realized the home that they bought for like six hundred 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: grand ten years ago was worth like one point eight 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: million dollars. They sold it and they moved a Sack, 48 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and they doubled their square footage for about one point 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: one million dollars, and they banked seven eight nine to 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. Sacramento has benefited so much from COVID. Obviously, 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: all the suburbs have in America, but nothing like Sack. 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Because Barry Holmes, I just saw my neighbor sold his 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: condo and I thought, chur ching, um, it is pretty crazy. 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't it wouldn't be a regret. But sometimes I 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: think if and when I bought this in the Bay Area, 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: if I just would have bought the same at a house, 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: even like a track home in Sacramento, it would have 58 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: doubled in value. You never know, though, It's easy to 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: play that game. Plus, I I've enjoyed being a Walnut 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Creek UH big Chiefs fan from Iowa. Where do you 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: think Matt Naggy will end up. I think he was 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: a great coach in Kansas City and his problems in 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Chicago were more due to Ryan Pace. Not gonna lie, 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I agree, Just curious if you think he'll get another chance. 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Uh in the foreseeable future. I think he'll He'll be 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: rehired for sure. Uh. I haven't talked to him in 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: a long time, just because it was such a crazy season. 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I actually need to text him. But you know, he's 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: a multimillionaire. So when you get a head coaching job, 70 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, you can relax a little bit, you can 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: take your time. He'll probably have to be a coordinator again. 72 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: Before he becomes a head coach. Mike Kafka, Andy's quarterback coach, 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: just became Sean McDermott's offensive coordinator. I could see him 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: linking back up with Andy now that Doug Peterson that 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: was breaking news I guess on Thursday night is now 76 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: the head coach with Trent Bulky, which I think is 77 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: a fantastic fit. Bulky's a huge ego guy, you know, 78 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: loves being like a GM slash coach. Doug is a 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: very very easy going head coach for a guy that 80 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: beat Belichick in a Super Bowl. Think about this, Doug 81 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Peterson outdueled Bill Belichick in a Super Bowl and I 82 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: talked to him three months after the combine. I guess 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it would have been two thousand eighteen. He is so 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: low key. I actually think it's a perfect fit and 85 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: Jaz Exonville. It wouldn't shock me if Naggy linked up 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: with him. Imagine if Naggy and Doug can make Trevor 87 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: look like a stud, the Naggy will be right back 88 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: in the mix of you know, of competing to be 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: a head coach. I guess you could say I'm a 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: fan at least I live here the circus, that is 91 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. What are your thoughts on this clown 92 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby? Do you really have any insight on what 93 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: actually does, on what he actually does and what his 94 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: reputation is around the league? Also, what are your opinions 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: on Cassio and do you believe he can turn things around? 96 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: Not too optimistic after watching the dumpster fire this year. Well, 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm not very religious. Now, I don't judge anyone. I 98 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: don't judge anyone. Well, I I do a little bit, 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: But when it comes to religion, I know people in 100 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: my life that are really religious, you know that that's 101 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: just not my lane. And clearly Easterby is now you 102 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: know it's easy like a guy like that making football decisions, 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: I would pump the brakes. But in terms of his faith, 104 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I have a problem with a guy like that that runs, 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, like the chapel with the players and then 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: is going to the general manager or is in a position, 107 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, to influence their contract. That would make me uneasy. 108 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: But I'll be honest, and as someone in the past 109 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: that's talked a lot of shit about him, I don't 110 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: really know what's going on, Like does this guy have 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: any juice, because I'm not sure he does. Like Nick 112 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: Kissario is the guy pulling all the strings, and I've 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: heard enough about Nickissario. The guy knows his ship. Like 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: you talk about a guy that was truly taught by 115 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, the ins and outs, this guy was. He's 116 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: really really smart, he's really really high level. Now he's 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: a little bit like I'm not that stiff, like Serio 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: is a little stiff for my liking. But in terms 119 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: of football, in terms of football knowledge, the guy knows 120 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: his stuff. Now, the one pushback I would have from 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: the outside would just be I do wonder if Cassario 122 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: thinks that he can control being a GM and like 123 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: control of the coach, and he saw it with Bill 124 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: like you do need a very very powerful coach. Now. Listen, 125 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: I had said when they hired David Kelly, no one 126 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: was going to take the job, So him firing David 127 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Kelly after one year didn't bother me at all. David 128 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Kelly was not a head coach. Now, if he does 129 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: that again and thinks that he can win with a guy, 130 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: then that would be done. Now if he hires you know, 131 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: I mean even Josh McCown. Everyone will crush the Josh 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: McCown higher. But who's to say that Josh McCown isn't 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: going to be a better coach than Uberflus, right, I mean, 134 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: we we see coaches hired all the time. Joe Judge 135 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: was a special teams coordinator. To meet Casario. If he 136 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: hires a head coach who is good, and then he 137 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: can use his understanding of everything he learned literally at 138 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: the like right next to Bill Belichick, because I like 139 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: the coaches, because Sarao and Belichick worked together hand in 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: hand for years. So to me, if he puts an 141 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: emphasis on hiring the head coach. I think they have 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: a chance. Obviously they need to improve their talents. But 143 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't write them off now Easterby. You know, to me, 144 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: there's a balance. I I can't have the team chaplain 145 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: telling me who to draft. But again, I've never met 146 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the guy. It's easy to make fun of them, which 147 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: I have. Uh, we'll just have to. I just had 148 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: to see who they hire. Then I'll give you an opinion. 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: But I've heard enough positive things about Cassio being a 150 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: high level guy. We'll just see who they hire and 151 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: go from there. Let's do that, okay, Joe, big fan 152 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: of the show. If you had to pick one quarterback 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: going forward between Burrow or Alan, who would you take? Also, 154 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: where do you see a landing spot for de Seawan? 155 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: I could see Carolina. Uh, I mean I get a 156 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 1: little Al Davis and me. I leaned the big arm. 157 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean I'm right. I love Joe Burrow. I I'm 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: a I'm a huge Joe Burrow fan. Who is not 159 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: I lean the bigger arm. And also, this guy's from California, 160 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: so I I would go with Josh Allen. Now it's 161 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: We're kind of comparing somewhat apples to oranges. Right. Joe 162 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Burrows in his second year. He's only played a year 163 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: and a half because he got injured. Josh Allen's whatever 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: going into is gonna be going into his fifth year. 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: One guy's played a lot longer, but I like the bigger, stronger, 166 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: faster guy. Doesn't mean I'm right, but I would lean 167 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, a big fan of the Pod, finally decided 168 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to slide into the d m S. This is from 169 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: a Trojan collectibles. I mean, what are we talking about here, 170 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Trojan collectibles? This seems to be a big divide between 171 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: forty Niner fans and when it comes to Kyle Shanahan. 172 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: While we are almost unanimously in agreement when it comes 173 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: to his scheme and offensive knowledge, some of us, myself included, 174 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: aren't sure he's the guy when it comes to being 175 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: a head coach. While the defensive have been good to 176 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: elite the offense, his expertise have been mid a f 177 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: I think that means as fuck as the kids like 178 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: to say. Maybe I'm jaded because he planned on signing 179 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: cousins in oh eight or eighteen rather than drafting and 180 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: developing a quarterback in seventeen. But if the Trail Lance 181 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: project doesn't work, I think it's time to move on. 182 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Am I crazy here? I think you are a little 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: bit uh. Listen, It's okay to be critical about coaches 184 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: on individual games. I would tell Kyle this if we 185 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: were having a cocktail right now, you know, I think 186 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: I would like him to have a redo on that 187 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: series second, one, third, and two and then the punt. 188 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: But and listen, I was critical of him on individual games. 189 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Kyle is a star. Kyle is an absolute stud. I 190 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: would take Kyle Shanahan, you know, over any coach under 191 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: sixty years old not named Belichick er Andy Reid in 192 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: the league, and that includes Sean McVeigh. I would go 193 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: to war with Kyle Shanahan in my building and have 194 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: no problem paying him twelve fourteen million dollars a year. 195 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I think he's a star head coach. I really do. 196 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: He has gotten to two championship games and one one 197 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: with Jimmy fucking Garoppolo. Think about that. His quarterbacks were 198 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: not Josh Allen or Joe Burrow. They were Jimmy Garoppolo. 199 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I give Kyle credit. His defense 200 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: is always physical. He hired Robert Salo when no one 201 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: had ever heard of the bald guy. He elevated Damiko 202 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: Ryan's when it wasn't a sexy thing to do. A 203 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: year later, the guy was interviewing for head coaching jobs. 204 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan to me, is a superstar head coach. Now, listen, 205 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean I could text Andy Reid. He text me 206 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: back in five minutes. I mean he's I can't say 207 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: that about really many coaches in the NFL. You're allowed 208 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: to be critical of people that you respect or really like, 209 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: or or even love as a fan, right, if you're 210 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: a die hard New England Patriot fan, you can be 211 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: critical of Bill Belichick. It's part of the job, right, 212 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: It's part of us as fans that watch football to 213 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: get fired up when a dumb play happens. Like to me, 214 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: the play at the end of the first half was stupid. 215 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Now I saw a video where where Mahomes screams it 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Andy like I got this and then he screwed it up. 217 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: But ultimately it's on the coach's part of the deals, 218 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: part of the gig. Even I saw Kyle say this 219 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: week like part of you know, part of being the 220 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: play callers slash head coach. I get criticized. It's it 221 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: comes with making twelve million dollars, But it doesn't mean 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: that you don't realize. Like listen, Sean McVeigh didn't have 223 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: a time out in the fourth quarter of the NFC 224 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: Championship Game. Sean McVeigh is a stud. If it wasn't 225 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: for Kyle Shannon, I take Sean McVeigh in a heartbeat. 226 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: So it's just I think sometimes we nitpick coaches a 227 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: little too much. It's a tough job, it really is. 228 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: It's it's not easy. But besides Belichick, who just won 229 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: six Super Bowls and went to whatever nine, most guys 230 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: are you know, the the upper echelon guys are losing 231 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: devastating games. It happened to coach Read against the Bengals, 232 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: has happened to Sean Payton for years, It has happened 233 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: to Kyle, has happened to Sean McVeigh before, it happened 234 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: to Matt Lafleur. Now, I don't know if Matt Lafleur, 235 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him in. Obviously, Andy and Sean have 236 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: done it much longer than Kyle and Sean McVeigh. But 237 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: we'll see on the floor. 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Is 269 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a Rod to India possibility or is ursa stuck with wins? 270 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: I think he stuck with Carson Wentz in two thousand 271 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: twenty two. I think Carson Wentz gonna be the quarterback 272 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. Like, let's look listen. I've said 273 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: it before. I think results matter in the NFL, right. 274 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: I crushed Brandon Staley for talking about the process and 275 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: the process in this process, Like, Bro, you missed the playoffs. 276 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: But ultimately I understand why the Colts acquired Carson Wentz. 277 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: What else are they gonna do? They were right there. 278 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean they easily could have lost or excuse me, 279 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: easy lead. You know, could have been in the playoffs, 280 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and they would have been in the playoffs. They would 281 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: have been dangerous. Now, losing at the Jacksonville Jacks, a 282 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: team that's drafting last time I checked number one overall 283 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: for two straight years in Week eighteen to go to 284 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs is as shitty of a loss as you 285 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: can have. Awful like the loss that the Chargers had 286 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: to the Raiders isn't even close to the loss of 287 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: the Colts had to the Jacks. Not even close because 288 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: at least the I mean, the Raiders were team and 289 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: it was on the road. You lost to the Jacks. 290 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Now it was in Jacksonville. That's a hard loss to shake. 291 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: And I watched a lot of Chris Ballard after the game. 292 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: The next couple of days, like you could tell he 293 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: was rattled, Like it's listen, you know, losing is part 294 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: of football. It's why. It's why I've been critical of 295 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Poles. Like you watched the way Andy Reid and 296 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Brett Veats they handed themselves after the loss, like it 297 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: happens you lost to Joe Burrow. I watched the way 298 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Sham a hand John Lane Chandler, like football is 299 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: really really hard in the playoffs, in the regular season. 300 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: Help playing that the worst team in the league, you 301 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: can lose. So I, you know, I just think you 302 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to make him a 303 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: little bit better, a little bit better. Big fan of 304 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: the pod from Mid Coast Main wondering if you could 305 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: take some time on the show to explain some of 306 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the betting lingo. Curious what plus minus means? Money line 307 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: Love the show, So if you're betting, let's just use 308 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: golf analogies. So today or this weekend, I bet Jason 309 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: Day to win the Pebble Beach Tournament. I got him 310 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: plus two thousand, That basically means twenty to one. So 311 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I put a hundred dollars on Jason Day. If I win, 312 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I will make two thou dollars. Now, if I bet 313 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: on the Rams to win the Super Bowl and I 314 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: take them money line and it's minus one twenty, they're 315 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: minus one twenty two win straight up. I have to 316 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: bet a hundred and twenty dollars to win a hundred. Now, 317 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: if they're plus one twenty, I would win a hundred 318 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: and twenty dollars on a hundred dollar bet. So when 319 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: you are the favorite, you are minus something. And when 320 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: you're a huge favorite, like a ten point favorite, you're 321 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: usually like minus three fifty. So that would mean I 322 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: would have to bet three hundred fifty dollars on a 323 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: team to win a hundred dollars. Now, if you're a 324 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: big underdog, I would have to bet plus three fifty 325 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: if that's what your number was on the money line. 326 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: And if I bet a hundred dollars on plus three fifty, 327 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: I win three hundred fifty dollars. And usually, like when 328 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: you bet the spread, it's minus one ten. That's how 329 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: the casino gets their money. It's called the vic So 330 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: I have to bet a hundred ten dollars to win 331 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: a hundred. That's just the way gambling works, which to 332 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: me is I got no issue with It's part of 333 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: the deal. As a Lions fan, my first choice for 334 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: o C would be Bat Maggie, but I doubt that 335 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: will happen. So I wonder your opinion on Deuce Staley 336 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: on becoming the o C for the Lions. How qualified 337 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: is he in actually on this actually happening. I love 338 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Deuce Staley. I think he's the best position coach. I've 339 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: ever been around him and Tim Skipper who was in 340 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: college was Tim and in the pros was Deuce. Uh Now, 341 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I've never sat down with Deuce and talks 342 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: like route concepts and I wouldn't even know. I couldn't. 343 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: You'd have to get like Andy reader Kyle Shanahan to 344 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: talk with him about that stuff to understand how you know, 345 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: his ability to understand all that stuff. Douce Staley has 346 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: been in the NFL for twenty plus years. Like, I 347 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: think he'd be pretty damn good. I would I swear 348 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: by Deuce Staley. I mean, I I love the guy. 349 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Now how good he is a NO C? Like? I mean, 350 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: I just from would he be the next Sean mcvac. 351 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: I can't say that, but I would take my chances 352 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: with the guy for sure. I was curious if you're 353 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: going to the Waste Management Open in Scottsdale this week. 354 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be my first time at the golfing event, 355 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: and I don't quite know what to expect. I'm not, 356 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: but I would love to, and it's my favorite golf 357 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: tournament to watch. I played there last year during Memorial Days. 358 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: Badass and enjoy it. I mean, have some pops walk 359 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: around ship, go to Whole sixteen, cheer your ass off 360 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: and get drunk. Question for the pod, why are you 361 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: always doubting my Bengals? You said the Rams should be 362 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: seven point favorites even though they beat the one and 363 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: two seed on the road. Feel like you're still unimpressed 364 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: by them. I'm not unimpressed by them. I think Joe 365 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamaar Chase, like every human with a pulse, 366 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: are stars. But I was thinking about it. Actually, I 367 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: was texting with a guy earlier today. The Bengals were 368 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: down three to the Chiefs. They were down twenty six 369 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: to forty. It took three interceptions against the Titans for 370 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: them to win. Like they have had an incredible season. 371 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the Rams time, and I like the 372 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Rams to beat him by ten plus points. That is, 373 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: by no means a slight to the Bengals you guys 374 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: have had. I mean it's been fucking storybook. You got 375 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, You're gonna go to the playoffs every year. 376 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: Think about who your competition is. The Steelers don't have 377 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback, Baker Mayfield sucks and he's injured, and you 378 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: got the Ravens. Like you guys are in great, great shape. 379 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: In my hater, I'm a hater in the sense that 380 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you're winning the Super Bowl this year. 381 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna cover. Do I think your 382 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: future is as bright as the sun? Hell, yes I do. 383 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: I always appreciate the show good insights. You mentioned eating 384 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: up all the Patriot Dynasty content. With Brady retiring this week, 385 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: I need to check out the Wickersham book. But I 386 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: really recommend getting lost in the NFL films YouTube wormhole 387 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: with all the Patriots Super Bowl, the Falcons versus the 388 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Patriots and the Seahawks versus the Patriots. Films are pretty insightful. 389 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm not a Patriot fans at all, but thensnalgia and 390 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: schematic insight of the NFL films, projection production. Take me 391 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: back to when I was a little kid watching the 392 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: old NFL in the eighties and nineties. One question for you, 393 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: doubt this would happen, But do you see Brady getting 394 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: the it's to return to the NFL after sitting out 395 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: of season. He seems pretty content with where he's at, 396 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: but he is clearly a different level of a competitive 397 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: animal than any normal person. Sorry for the long message, 398 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: No worries, I don't. I think when Brady, part of 399 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: it's his age. I mean he's forty, he's gonna be 400 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: forty five years old. Once he taps out, he's gone. 401 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of memes of him looking fat. 402 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever I been. His diets 403 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: pretty good from here on out. But I think it's over. 404 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, he had an incredible run. He's the greatest 405 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: of all time. I think he'll play golf, hang out 406 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: with his kids, hang out with his wife, go to 407 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: live in by the beach and go to Hawaii and ship, 408 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: just just have an incredible life. Um, he's worked for 409 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: twenty plus years, dedicated his entire life. One thing in 410 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: that Wickersham book after they won the first Super Bowl. 411 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: He was living with the Kicker and they were gonna 412 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: have the parade, and I think the parade started at 413 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: like ten o'clock and they got drunk, you know, all 414 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: obviously the days leading up before, and he goes to 415 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: the Kicker, his roommate. I think it was a nugent, 416 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: and he goes, you want to go get a lift 417 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: before the parade and the Kicker looks at him like, 418 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: are you nuts? Who cares? Let's get drunk, and Brad 419 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: He's like, no, let's go get a lift. And they 420 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: went and got a lift. This was in two thousand. 421 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: I guess it would have been two or one. I 422 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: guess it would have been the oh one season. It 423 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: would have been January o two. Brady's wired, you know, 424 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: just just different than everyone else. So you know, I 425 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you. He I could see him getting bored. 426 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: But what you're out, you're out. He's He's not like walking. 427 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: You know when dogs are getting in the water and 428 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: they kind of put their paw in and then they 429 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of walk in. He just jumped, you know, like 430 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: when you get a lab and they just jump in. 431 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: That's Tom Brady. He just jumps in the deep end. 432 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: Once he gets out of the pool that there's no 433 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: going back. He's he can't kind of straddle the fence. 434 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think we ever see Tom Brady again. 435 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: It could be wrong. UM a little quick mail back 436 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: for you guys. Appreciate everyone hitting me up at John 437 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: middlecoff Is the Instagram and UM, talk to you guys 438 00:24:45,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: next week. Peace the Volume