1
00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,080
Speaker 1: We're fact. I'm Drew McCarry and I'm David Roth and

2
00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,000
Speaker 1: coming in September a new site we have built together

3
00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,039
Speaker 1: called defect or Defector, and we're gonna have a new

4
00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,920
Speaker 1: podcast to go with it, this Verry podcast, which has

5
00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,400
Speaker 1: the name The Distraction. It's out right now, avail every rust.

6
00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Get your podcast at Sucher, Spotify, Apple, Go listen right

7
00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,720
Speaker 1: now to The Distraction everywhere. It's out right now. Go

8
00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:31,080
Speaker 1: listen to see by When you first told me this

9
00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,360
Speaker 1: you wanted to put me and my babies on social media.

10
00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:40,479
Speaker 1: I was like, hell no again, dead as I was.

11
00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,440
Speaker 1: I was dead too when you said it, right, but

12
00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,839
Speaker 1: I could foresee what social media was gonna be. So

13
00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,160
Speaker 1: want no credit. I guess you'd be no one knowing

14
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,840
Speaker 1: I do being dead as hey. I'm Cadine and we're

15
00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,000
Speaker 1: the Ellison. You may know us from posting funny videos

16
00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,360
Speaker 1: without boys and of reading each other publicly as a

17
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,080
Speaker 1: form of therapy. Wait, I'm making meet therapy most days.

18
00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh and one more important thing to mention, we're married, Yes, sir,

19
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,559
Speaker 1: we are. We created this podcast to open dialogue about

20
00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,360
Speaker 1: some of life's most taboo topics. Things most folks don't

21
00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about through the lens of a millennial

22
00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,200
Speaker 1: married couple. Dead ass is a term that we say

23
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,600
Speaker 1: every day where we say dead as we're actually saying

24
00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,399
Speaker 1: facts one, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

25
00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,200
Speaker 1: the truth. We're about to take Philow talk to a

26
00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,480
Speaker 1: whole new level. Dead ask starts now. I went for

27
00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,520
Speaker 1: an audition on the TV show. I'm not going out

28
00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,920
Speaker 1: the TV show, right, but um, of course I get

29
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,240
Speaker 1: I get the sides and it's for inmates, alright, something

30
00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,320
Speaker 1: like damn inmate number seven. Okay. So then I walk

31
00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,640
Speaker 1: in for the audition and there's two roles they're reading

32
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,160
Speaker 1: for and one role is for inmate number seven and

33
00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,680
Speaker 1: the other role is for doctor. All of the people

34
00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,520
Speaker 1: that were auditioning for doctor were Asian and white. All

35
00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 1: of the people who were auditioning for Innate number seven

36
00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: were black and brown. And it was just like, you

37
00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to do this no more.

38
00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,040
Speaker 1: And I came home and he's like, how to go

39
00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,920
Speaker 1: and I was just like remembered. I was like, oh,

40
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,480
Speaker 1: this is cool show, Like what are you gonna do?

41
00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,160
Speaker 1: And it was like what first of all, And as

42
00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,720
Speaker 1: an actor sometimes you just get tired, you know, like

43
00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 1: I had. I had two lines and the line was, bitch,

44
00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,320
Speaker 1: what that's my towel? It's not. It's like I didn't

45
00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,880
Speaker 1: really have to prepare for that. And right right, you

46
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how many ways can you inflict

47
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,480
Speaker 1: you that, you know what? That's my towel, that's my towel.

48
00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160
Speaker 1: How does that work? I'm not knocking those roles because

49
00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 1: those roles and needed on television, but I was just

50
00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,680
Speaker 1: tired of playing those roles and I just decided to say,

51
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,600
Speaker 1: you know what, babe, I want to show them my

52
00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,400
Speaker 1: comedic style. I want to show them my ability to write,

53
00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,440
Speaker 1: and I feel like I want to share our story.

54
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,040
Speaker 1: So I'm going to create a sitcom. And at the time,

55
00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,800
Speaker 1: Instagram was only fifteen seconds and you was like what devout?

56
00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,520
Speaker 1: I was like, trust me, and those two situations birth

57
00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:17,959
Speaker 1: the social sitcom. Social sitcom known is I need to

58
00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:25,839
Speaker 1: get back? Surety yum near for you. Anytime you need

59
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000
Speaker 1: real good, listen to me in your world. Believe nothing

60
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 1: to make a man feel better than a woman when

61
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,480
Speaker 1: you went to cry, will not be down for whatever.

62
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640
Speaker 1: There's a few things that's forever, my lady. We can

63
00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400
Speaker 1: make war a make baby. When I was nothing. He

64
00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,839
Speaker 1: made a brother feel like he was something. That's why

65
00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you till his day. Boom no front. Yeah,

66
00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 1: so you already know that the karaoke song today, although

67
00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 1: I suck trying to sing Mary's part. First of all,

68
00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:59,320
Speaker 1: you can't everybody just sing Mary like you gave. Mary

69
00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,680
Speaker 1: gave a value. That's that's the point of karaoke, the good,

70
00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,600
Speaker 1: the bad, and the bad. So for today's show, we're

71
00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,600
Speaker 1: talking social media with the journey has been like for

72
00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,520
Speaker 1: us and what it really means to put our lives

73
00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,320
Speaker 1: on full display. And later on in the show, joining us,

74
00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880
Speaker 1: we have Eric Dickens, he's the creator and writer of

75
00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,039
Speaker 1: the show Makeup and break Up, And also we have

76
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,560
Speaker 1: two of the cast members are also going to join

77
00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 1: the show and tell us exactly what we have to

78
00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,559
Speaker 1: look forward to. But I picked that song because of

79
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,320
Speaker 1: the words you know all I need, Yes, and where

80
00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,719
Speaker 1: we were in our life when I decided to say

81
00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,599
Speaker 1: we're going to start this in social media. We were

82
00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440
Speaker 1: at a point in our lives where there was a

83
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,680
Speaker 1: bunch of things going on simultaneously where we felt like,

84
00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, what enough is enough? We need to now

85
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,480
Speaker 1: find a way to gain control and autonomy over our lives.

86
00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,880
Speaker 1: To take a step out on a limb and see

87
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,359
Speaker 1: if it's gonna This is gonna work, because, to be

88
00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,279
Speaker 1: quite honest, when we first talked about this whole social

89
00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000
Speaker 1: media thing, they were friends who were just like, y'all

90
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,599
Speaker 1: are doing too much. There were people who mentored you

91
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800
Speaker 1: in the acting field that were like, you don't want

92
00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,719
Speaker 1: to put yourself out There is just a dad doing

93
00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,800
Speaker 1: regular things every day because no one's gonna want to

94
00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,080
Speaker 1: see that. They're not going to value you credit you

95
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,480
Speaker 1: as an actor. We had family who was like, you're

96
00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120
Speaker 1: sharing too much of your lives. Why would you guys

97
00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,600
Speaker 1: want to do that giving people a lens into your

98
00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,440
Speaker 1: personal life? How dare you? Nobody saw it? But if

99
00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,360
Speaker 1: you if you don't know, Right now, i'm smiling, I

100
00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,479
Speaker 1: will tell you why I'm smiling. Right. This is gonna

101
00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,320
Speaker 1: sound crazy, right, but there is a delusional quality that

102
00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,360
Speaker 1: all successful people have right speak on it because they

103
00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,719
Speaker 1: can see things that other people can't see. Right. So,

104
00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,280
Speaker 1: for example, when I'm talking to my kids that I

105
00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,880
Speaker 1: mentor and they're telling me what they want to accomplish

106
00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,839
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, if you tell me something that

107
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,960
Speaker 1: somebody else is I got an idea, coach de vow

108
00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,040
Speaker 1: and they tell me, and I've heard it before, I'm

109
00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360
Speaker 1: just like, that's that's not an idea, that's what people

110
00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760
Speaker 1: are doing. So when I was telling people, and I

111
00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,600
Speaker 1: remember going through this journey when I just retired from

112
00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,160
Speaker 1: the league and I was telling friends and family that

113
00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to do TV. We have friends who are

114
00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,800
Speaker 1: just like, you want to act. You have friends that

115
00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,719
Speaker 1: asked you how long you're gonna let THEO do this?

116
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,240
Speaker 1: How long is he going to be doing this whole

117
00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,599
Speaker 1: acting thing? Like, what's what's that about? I have family

118
00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,520
Speaker 1: and I was just like, Oh, you're gonna do acting next, okay,

119
00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,239
Speaker 1: first starving actor and all of this. And what happens

120
00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,400
Speaker 1: is people people say that that's hate. That's not hate.

121
00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,279
Speaker 1: That's not hate. People are not supposed to see your vision.

122
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,640
Speaker 1: If everybody around you can see your vision, that means

123
00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,360
Speaker 1: that they're gonna start trying to do what you're doing.

124
00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,760
Speaker 1: Then it gets crowded in that lane, right, I don't

125
00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,400
Speaker 1: want nobody to see my vision. So when I told

126
00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,280
Speaker 1: people what I was doing, and it was just like, yeah,

127
00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't see it right right, and it was to

128
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,839
Speaker 1: the point where it started to kind of scare me

129
00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, but in a good way. And then

130
00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,480
Speaker 1: speaking to my manager recent there are our manager recently,

131
00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,040
Speaker 1: she was like, Cadein, if your dreams are not scaring

132
00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,960
Speaker 1: you to the point that you're that you are right now,

133
00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,400
Speaker 1: then what's the point, Like why are we doing? And

134
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,320
Speaker 1: it was like a nervous scare. But I was like,

135
00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a rock out with devout. I

136
00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400
Speaker 1: rocked out with him through the NFL that came and went.

137
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,120
Speaker 1: We started all over again. We had Jackson, we rocked

138
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520
Speaker 1: out with starting the gym. Remember when I started Elite

139
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Prototype Athletics. I came back to Brooklyn right me and

140
00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,160
Speaker 1: my brother. I said, I'm gonna do sports performance in Brooklyn.

141
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,680
Speaker 1: Everybody in Brooklyn's like, that ain't gonna work. We ended

142
00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,800
Speaker 1: up having our own space at Aviator Sports and Recreation Center.

143
00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,760
Speaker 1: Fast forward another three years, I'm part ownership over gym.

144
00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to Brooklyn Athletic Club. Your visions have to

145
00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,480
Speaker 1: be big if you want to do something different and great,

146
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely they have to be big. They have to be

147
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,400
Speaker 1: and you coming home from the league, you could not

148
00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,200
Speaker 1: have come back like been this small guy from Brooklyn

149
00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,920
Speaker 1: making it to the league, coming back to Brooklyn and

150
00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000
Speaker 1: not pouring back into the community that birthew So it

151
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 1: was it was necessary to build this business. Business it

152
00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,720
Speaker 1: was and I was like, you know, a devout if

153
00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 1: you want to build this business, I'm a whole of

154
00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920
Speaker 1: family down. I just want went back to back and

155
00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,280
Speaker 1: I was working, and you know, we gave the story

156
00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,320
Speaker 1: about us, you know, hustling with each other and me

157
00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,080
Speaker 1: working in retail, trying to sustain things while you were

158
00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,480
Speaker 1: getting your business off the ground. And that was all

159
00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,920
Speaker 1: in the plan to be able to give ourselves the

160
00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,280
Speaker 1: full flexibility and freedom that we needed to then be

161
00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640
Speaker 1: creatives and have the time to invest and not have

162
00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,840
Speaker 1: to worry about chasing the dollar. And that led us

163
00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,960
Speaker 1: to social media because I was looking at all of

164
00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,560
Speaker 1: the great people that I inspired to be like. I

165
00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,080
Speaker 1: looked at I looked at who inspired I aspired to

166
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,319
Speaker 1: be like. I looked at of course, jay Z, I'm

167
00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,600
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, right, he got passed over by so many

168
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,840
Speaker 1: record labels, so he started Rockefeller and now look, you know,

169
00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,400
Speaker 1: you look at I'm out of boxer, but you look

170
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,440
Speaker 1: at Floyd Mayweather took his whole boxing career in his

171
00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,600
Speaker 1: hands and is now one of the greatest boxers of

172
00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,440
Speaker 1: all time. People can stay with they want to say

173
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,440
Speaker 1: about him, but his business acumen is unmatched. You know,

174
00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,760
Speaker 1: he's a billionaire. Um. You look at Tyler Perry, you

175
00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,959
Speaker 1: look at Ray Uh, you look at Uh, you look

176
00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,080
Speaker 1: at Kevin Hart. All of these people traveled on a

177
00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,840
Speaker 1: role that nobody else was traveling ones and said I'm

178
00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,560
Speaker 1: going to do it this way and made it happen.

179
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480
Speaker 1: So for me, social media was a way for me

180
00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040
Speaker 1: to tell my story because I like to write. You know,

181
00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,600
Speaker 1: I've been writing scripts and I've been writing stories forever.

182
00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,240
Speaker 1: He literally has been so like he literally watched movies

183
00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,319
Speaker 1: and watch it with such a different eye. That's when

184
00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160
Speaker 1: I knew you were really serious about acting. Was when

185
00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,640
Speaker 1: we'd go to the movies, because we used to go

186
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439
Speaker 1: so frequently when we were younger, but we had time.

187
00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240
Speaker 1: We were like in the movie every week. And the

188
00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,880
Speaker 1: way Devout would look and watch a movie and then

189
00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 1: critique the movie and break it down, or he would

190
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,560
Speaker 1: just foresee things happening. I was just like, Wow, this

191
00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,320
Speaker 1: guy really is serious about this whole acting situation. I

192
00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,880
Speaker 1: love storytelling. Yes, so it only made sense when so

193
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160
Speaker 1: for media became a thing for us to really take

194
00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,880
Speaker 1: control over it. And the thing that I love that

195
00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,079
Speaker 1: to say that we have both come up with is that,

196
00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,959
Speaker 1: you know, we did not let social media happen to us.

197
00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,439
Speaker 1: We happen to social media. When you have the control

198
00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,160
Speaker 1: over your content, when you're able to really put together

199
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,560
Speaker 1: and construct your own narrative, then you really can just

200
00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,880
Speaker 1: put out what you want to put out and you

201
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,240
Speaker 1: don't have to rely on anybody else to tell your story.

202
00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160
Speaker 1: The story comes out more authentic, it's more organic in

203
00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,800
Speaker 1: the moment, and it's really what we didn't foresee becoming

204
00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 1: a thing becoming a thing. We were really just putting

205
00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: our family and ourselves out there. And I say that

206
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,400
Speaker 1: loosely because you know, I've gotten backlash from some family

207
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,400
Speaker 1: members or we've heard people saying like, why would you

208
00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,920
Speaker 1: share so much of your life? Share so much of

209
00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,000
Speaker 1: your life? Let's really dissect it and break it down.

210
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, there's three sixty five days in a year,

211
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,800
Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day. If I'm sharing a

212
00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 1: one minute video every day, that's like less than one

213
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,400
Speaker 1: percent of my entire life of my day. So how

214
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,760
Speaker 1: much am I really sharing? Not much? Not much. However,

215
00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,319
Speaker 1: I think that there is um a greatness in being

216
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,839
Speaker 1: being able to make people feel as if they're so

217
00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,800
Speaker 1: invested in, so drawn in by a minute, that's sixty

218
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120
Speaker 1: seconds that we construct where people feel they can relate

219
00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,560
Speaker 1: to it well, they can engage, they can share. You

220
00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,160
Speaker 1: know why. It's because now if you look at our page,

221
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,000
Speaker 1: you can watch a full two and a half years

222
00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,199
Speaker 1: of what's going on in our life through sixty second

223
00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,440
Speaker 1: clips and create a story of who the ellis Is are.

224
00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,440
Speaker 1: And that's the that's what I wanted to create with

225
00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,800
Speaker 1: this social sitcom. I wanted to create a platform where

226
00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,640
Speaker 1: people can see our style of art and we can

227
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,320
Speaker 1: have control over it. So that's the why. Now, as

228
00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,679
Speaker 1: an artist, if you're a painter, right, what do artists paint? Right?

229
00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,280
Speaker 1: Inspire them things that are in their lives. If you're

230
00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,480
Speaker 1: a rapper, what do you your life? Right? Sing you

231
00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,680
Speaker 1: sing about life events. If you're a writer or a creator,

232
00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,960
Speaker 1: you write and create about your life. There's some important

233
00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,640
Speaker 1: to me then my family. So for me, it was

234
00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,720
Speaker 1: easy content for me to script around, to create content

235
00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,719
Speaker 1: that people I feel that I feel like I was

236
00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,200
Speaker 1: missing because super passionate. I'm super passionate about family, I'm

237
00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,679
Speaker 1: super passionate about legacy building, I'm super passionate about entrepreneurship,

238
00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,600
Speaker 1: and um, I'm also super passionate about how we are

239
00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,840
Speaker 1: represented in these stories that we tell, you know, so

240
00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,960
Speaker 1: so often. Growing up in the eighties and the nineties,

241
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,439
Speaker 1: a lot of the stories be told were the classic

242
00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,840
Speaker 1: hood stories. You know, boys in the hood, menace of society,

243
00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,760
Speaker 1: shout out to John Singleton, Um, these stories show black

244
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,760
Speaker 1: people in one way, you know. And I always wondered

245
00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, because I grew up in

246
00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,760
Speaker 1: Flatbush in Brooklyn, and people would ask me that didn't

247
00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 1: live in Brooklyn, who saw movies from Brooklyn, like they

248
00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,200
Speaker 1: watched Juice, and they were just like, that's how it

249
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,280
Speaker 1: is on the time. You have to be shooting up

250
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,319
Speaker 1: each other all the time. Or what I thought about

251
00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,520
Speaker 1: l A. I thought about l A. What I thought

252
00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,240
Speaker 1: was menace to society and boys in the hood. So

253
00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480
Speaker 1: if I ever go to l A, I might get shot.

254
00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,320
Speaker 1: And I'm a young kid, you know, I'm a young kid.

255
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about the young middle class families who

256
00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,239
Speaker 1: are thriving, living different type of lives, you know, And

257
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I want to

258
00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,360
Speaker 1: create a story around those type of families. And I

259
00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:37,200
Speaker 1: was like, family, you you came from a strong middle

260
00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,319
Speaker 1: class family. I came from a strong middle class family.

261
00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,200
Speaker 1: Your family is from the West Indies. And we talked

262
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,360
Speaker 1: about this. They have a completely different viewpoint of what

263
00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,000
Speaker 1: America is than the Black American family. So I'm like,

264
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,520
Speaker 1: that's actually dope that we can talk about the culture

265
00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,760
Speaker 1: situation that we are going on here. Yeah, and not

266
00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,280
Speaker 1: to mention like funny should just be happening in our

267
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,280
Speaker 1: house every day, every single day. There's something funny that happens.

268
00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,800
Speaker 1: And I think it's even just like the relationship we

269
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,800
Speaker 1: have where we don't take ourselves too seriously, but we

270
00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,040
Speaker 1: can constantly joke on each other and we find the

271
00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,960
Speaker 1: humor in parenting. We find the humor and relationships and

272
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,640
Speaker 1: in marriage, and we're able to even now at this point,

273
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 1: speak about things that maybe not so fun and find

274
00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,960
Speaker 1: a humorous twist on it, but at least its sparkes conversation.

275
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,240
Speaker 1: Even the greatest the people who are at the highest

276
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840
Speaker 1: of the mountain, you look at Bradley Cooper, right, he

277
00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,920
Speaker 1: wrote I think he wrote and directed this last film

278
00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,920
Speaker 1: that he did that was nominated, The star was born

279
00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,240
Speaker 1: right And when they asked him, when they asked him,

280
00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,480
Speaker 1: what made you? What made you get to this and

281
00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to do he said, I was tired of

282
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 1: waiting for people to write the role that I wanted

283
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,960
Speaker 1: to do. Right here is and we always talk about

284
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,280
Speaker 1: racist country, here is a white male who was at

285
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,360
Speaker 1: the pinnacle. He's already been nominated and want to Oscar

286
00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,520
Speaker 1: I believe, And even still he is like, yo, I

287
00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,640
Speaker 1: don't want to wait. I want to do it myself.

288
00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,840
Speaker 1: That to me is inspiring because if he already has

289
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,160
Speaker 1: all of the tools and the advantages and the privilege,

290
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,840
Speaker 1: he still is not sitting back and waiting and he's

291
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,320
Speaker 1: still writing and producing stuff. So so me little on me.

292
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,640
Speaker 1: If I want to get to that level and he's

293
00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800
Speaker 1: hustling like that, I need to get on that same hustle.

294
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,360
Speaker 1: Denzel does the same thing, Will Smith, the same thing.

295
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,880
Speaker 1: Look at look at Will's presence now on social media.

296
00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,480
Speaker 1: This is this is like Will Smith, what I mean,

297
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,600
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. Look at the val he's

298
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600
Speaker 1: about to cry. Yo, let me tell you something. You

299
00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,080
Speaker 1: have no clue. You'll have no clue how much that

300
00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,920
Speaker 1: man inspires me, not only as an actor, but as

301
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,600
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, as a father, as a husband, as a creator,

302
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,160
Speaker 1: and as just an overall person and lover of people.

303
00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,520
Speaker 1: Like he just understands people. Understand you. Guys have similarities

304
00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,680
Speaker 1: in that really understand people and wants everybody to win,

305
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,840
Speaker 1: like he just wants everybody when he wants, he might

306
00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,080
Speaker 1: have a good time. I want to dive into a

307
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,200
Speaker 1: little bit more of the how for people because I

308
00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,040
Speaker 1: want this to be insightful. Right, people always ask us

309
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:19,680
Speaker 1: about monetizing social media. Right, these two words brand consciousness. Okay,

310
00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. There are people on social

311
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,000
Speaker 1: media who have millions of followers who can't make any

312
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,240
Speaker 1: money because their content is not digestible. Brands can't partner

313
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,480
Speaker 1: with you to push your content. So you may have

314
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,080
Speaker 1: a million followers who like to watch you do funny stuff,

315
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,920
Speaker 1: but you can never really make any real money. And

316
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 1: I think that's the part that people are missing. People

317
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,800
Speaker 1: think that the brands come with the following. Doesn't come

318
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,120
Speaker 1: with the following, It comes with the engagement and it

319
00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280
Speaker 1: comes with the content because they're more importantly the content

320
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,440
Speaker 1: that the engagement, because you may have engagement for having,

321
00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, doing come to your page and be like

322
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,440
Speaker 1: they want to be entertained. The content piece is the

323
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,320
Speaker 1: most important part because there are people who have fifty

324
00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,639
Speaker 1: followers who make a living like they work on Wall

325
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,840
Speaker 1: Street because they have great content and they have great

326
00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,440
Speaker 1: brand partnerships. So if you don't, if you don't take

327
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,159
Speaker 1: anything else away from this, take away from this, if

328
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,479
Speaker 1: your content is not digestible and can't be seen by

329
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,119
Speaker 1: this demographic, eleven through and that eleven is the most

330
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,840
Speaker 1: important because I don't know if you know this, but

331
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,439
Speaker 1: the most highest paid influencers on YouTube our childrenildren. Did

332
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,439
Speaker 1: you hear what I said? I said their children? Because

333
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,879
Speaker 1: this generation is driven by those phones and those tablets.

334
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 1: The older people still watch TV, yes they watch TV,

335
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,720
Speaker 1: but the young people in the future, everything is done

336
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,760
Speaker 1: on the phone. So if you can captivate that young audience,

337
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,200
Speaker 1: you can make some money. Now, how you create your content,

338
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,439
Speaker 1: the type of content you create, that's on you. I

339
00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,920
Speaker 1: can't I can't tell you what's fascinating in your life

340
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 1: or tell you how to write a story. But when

341
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: it comes to this social media stuff, you have to

342
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 1: understand that brand consciousness is important. What you post, how

343
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: you post, when you post is very important, extremely important.

344
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 1: And when thinking about content to a lot of people

345
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 1: want to know, like how we are able to like

346
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,879
Speaker 1: how do you come up with this funny stuff? It

347
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,199
Speaker 1: literally is situations that just happened in our household that we,

348
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 1: if anything, have to just redo or reenact. Or We'll

349
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: just be a random time We're walking down the block

350
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,960
Speaker 1: and I'll see devout hold this with you know, his

351
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,359
Speaker 1: his camera up and then next thing you know, it

352
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,120
Speaker 1: becomes a video and I'm posting on social media. Um.

353
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,440
Speaker 1: But I will say that, make sure your content is

354
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 1: authentic and organic to whatever your message is or whatever

355
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 1: it is you're trying to do. Um and paying little

356
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,080
Speaker 1: attention to the comments per se. You know, we get

357
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 1: the question a lot about how do you guys deal

358
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: with people in your comments and what people have to say?

359
00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 1: And for the most part, yeah that I'm gonna I'm

360
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 1: gonna how to put this out there. I can't say

361
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,359
Speaker 1: this enough. We have to stop over utilizing this word

362
00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,920
Speaker 1: hate because someone disagrees with what you say or does

363
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 1: it like your content doesn't make them a hater. It

364
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 1: does not warrant it as hate. It's not hate. They

365
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: they're different thinkers. They may not think like you, but

366
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,959
Speaker 1: understand that they're on your page and they're commenting, so

367
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,919
Speaker 1: you're still engaging them if you If you continue to,

368
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, disrespect people or disengage people who who disagree

369
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 1: with you, you're losing people who may share your content.

370
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 1: And then you're taking the time to to then engage

371
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: in back and forth with people who disagree with what

372
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: you may have put out there. And what are you

373
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 1: doing now? You're wasting time, wasting energy engaging in these

374
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 1: dialogues that go back and forth and back and forth

375
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 1: in an entire thread when you could be thinking about

376
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: the next video that you're gonna be posted. Anyone that

377
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 1: takes the time to view your content, they're not a hater.

378
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: They're a supporter, whether they like it or not. They

379
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 1: may not like that video per se, but if they

380
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: come back to another one, they may like the next one.

381
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 1: So you can appreciate if someone doesn't the content, and

382
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: that's important for people to understand. With social media, Yes,

383
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 1: and you can be selective in what you you engage into.

384
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 1: That's also the great thing about it. You don't necessarily

385
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: have to answer to everything you know. And we always

386
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 1: say we would do a disservice to people who support

387
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: and are positive and and and always are encouraging us

388
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: and sharing our content and showing us so much love.

389
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: We love and appreciate that so much because they are

390
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 1: the reason why we even have a platform like this.

391
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: To begin with, Tip number one, do not focus on

392
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: the comments that come with every video because every video

393
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: is just a snapshot in time, and people are going

394
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: to judge you on that snapshot in time. But if

395
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: you know you have more content coming in this content prior,

396
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 1: they'll learn more about you by watching your content. You

397
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: don't have to defend yourself on every bit of content

398
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: you put out exactly. That's a great ex exhausting as

399
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: he there we go and not want to create content exactly,

400
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: it's a great tip. Tip number two, be authentic in

401
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: whatever your content is and do not allow that to

402
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: deter you from creating what organically you want to put

403
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: out there. A lot of times people do not know

404
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: what they want until you give it to them, So

405
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: give it to them. What's the worst that could happen

406
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 1: when you put yourself out there people don't like it.

407
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: Oh well you will have your demographic of people that

408
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: will cheer for you and root for you and once

409
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: some more. That's so true, So do it. That's any

410
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: other tips, anything else that you wish somebody would have,

411
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: schools you want before this whole social media game became

412
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: a thing that you're just like, you know what, this

413
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: is like very insightful. I think we gave people a

414
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: lot to think about her and they were thinking about

415
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: embarking on the whole social media journey or just how

416
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: to deal with it now that you have content that

417
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: people are putting out on a regular basis. I just say,

418
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: go do it. Don't be afraid, you can't be afraid,

419
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: don't listen to the naysayers. And oh, last last, it

420
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: doesn't happen overnight, so you know, Rome wasn't built in

421
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: a day. And I've heard um to Rog p Henson

422
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: say this, I heard Kevin Hart say this, It takes

423
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: ten years to become an overnight celebrity to get ve

424
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: been in the game forever, you know, And she's like,

425
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: y'all just realized this, Like what comes out of nowhere?

426
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: What you mean the hell up? Yeah, it takes time.

427
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: It takes time, people, And there's a tip I can

428
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: give you. It takes time. Just be consistent, love what

429
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: you do, love what you do, and find somebody that

430
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: loves it with you, that can push you when the

431
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: times gets Because if I didn't have this woman right here,

432
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: this is no, no bullshit. It's easier for me to

433
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: do what I do when I can wake up and

434
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: I know I got a partner that can help filling

435
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: the gaps at the things I'm not good at. Like

436
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: I said, I can't, I'm not organized. Right now, we're

437
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: sitting at the table and everyone signed it, autographs and

438
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: signatures all over the table. My brain is like this table.

439
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of stuff all over in his brain.

440
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Her brain is like a foul cabinet, like she can

441
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: just go right in there and just pull something out

442
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: and bound. So, you know, find someone I can help

443
00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: you with this journey. And social media? Right baby? Do

444
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: you like social media? I have a love hate relationship

445
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: for social media. You didn't always like you didn't always

446
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: like it. I didn't. I didn't very apprehensive at first,

447
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: didn't see the vision, didn't have the force that I

448
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: did have the foresight though, that you would grow into

449
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: your head. So be glad that I had first always

450
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: sending shots. You're sending shots and I can't send it

451
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: back back. Okay, why so your little minions can come

452
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: at me. I don't want your little minions coming at me.

453
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't want them. But I'm glad that you do.

454
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: Somebody who elseo at foresight when it comes to social media?

455
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: This is Mr Eric Dickens. Now first and foremost. Let

456
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: me give you guys a little story. When I was

457
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: just doing the dad thing on social media and me

458
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: and my wife, um, I have reached out to one

459
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: of my homeboys, Camel. Camel I think has spoke to

460
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: Eric about possibly doing some stuff on the show that

461
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: he had on social media. Right, So Eric hit me

462
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: up and I was like, yo, I gotta role for you.

463
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: It's only one scene, right, So I was like, it's

464
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: a web series, it's one scene. I'm with it. So

465
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: then Eric was just like, I cool, come to We

466
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: chopped it up. We talked for about what was about

467
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: three months after doing that one, seeing about stuff you

468
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: wanted to do and that it gave me some more

469
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: opportunities and it grew into a full fledged relationship. Now,

470
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: my man, Eric dick Is is is here. So for those

471
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: of you who have not seen Makeup to break Up,

472
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: it's a series about relationships and all the dynamics. Basically,

473
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: you have a couple who are goals on the outside

474
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: looking in, but girl decides to leave the relationship and

475
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: when she realizes the grass ain't always greener, girl decides

476
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: that she wants that old thing Max. But the guy

477
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: is now in a new relationship and has to figure

478
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: out where he jones now. Eric, first of all, tell

479
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: us a little bit about yourself. Eric Um, native of Philadelphia,

480
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: just turned thirty five, work in digital as cells is

481
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: the nine and five and the other five and nine

482
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: is creating um kind intent. So that's where I'm at

483
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: right now with it. Well, that's first of all, I

484
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: didn't even know you had like a full time job job.

485
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: You do this on the side, well side, talk a

486
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: little bit about that, because a lot of people don't

487
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: understand that you have to have capital to be able

488
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: to do your art. So what is that like, you know,

489
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: having a nine to five and still being able to

490
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: create content. Um, it's dope, because I mean, you don't

491
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: really have to struggle. You just have to learn how

492
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: to budget. When I was in an undergrad I did

493
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: TV production and like all the camera equipment we use

494
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: was crazy expensive. Fast forward eighteen years later, you can

495
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: make a movie or anything on your phone. You know what.

496
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: The budget is a little bit different where you can

497
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: actually afford to create content on your own as opposed to,

498
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, wait for somebody to back your project. Now

499
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: you can just go out there and do it yourself. Um.

500
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: So that's been the good part about it as far

501
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: as funding. Um, I tell everybody just create a goal,

502
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Set your goal. If you

503
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: can't get investors, you gotta back it yourself. Um. Just

504
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: put a little bit of money away moroughly, and then

505
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: once you finally reach your goal, you can go forth

506
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: with your project. How did you come up with this concept?

507
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the show and how

508
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: did you even come up with the idea? Oh? Interesting? So,

509
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: as a kid, like most men, my inspiration like I

510
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: felt like I looked up to the movie Boomeranghy. So

511
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: my goal was to get to New York by any means. Necessarily,

512
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to work directly in television, but the hours

513
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: was crazy. So I figured, like I said, if I

514
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: go over to the digital side or like the corporate side,

515
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: I could do a nine if I collect that money

516
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: and do my own things. So that's kind of what

517
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: I did. Um funny thing I end up working in

518
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: as Cells, which Marcus Graham did in the movie. So

519
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: throughout my twenties, like just dating in hallm and just

520
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: going to Brooklyn and dating it was crazy, like you

521
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: would literally spend so much money going out on dates

522
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: with multiple women just based on your life, not my life,

523
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: just my exclosely based on some of the situations that

524
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: I had, but a lot of my friends by Sunday morning,

525
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of like how much money did I spend

526
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: while my way up outside of my apartment? Like the

527
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: stories you were here on Monday would be crazy. So

528
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what if I put all this into

529
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: one show and like to see how we're kind of like,

530
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: um paying out but a lot of stuff is like fabricated,

531
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah yeah yeah, But like sometimes my

532
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: friends be watching and be like, yo, that that scenario

533
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: content familiar, Like we're not naming anything. So but no,

534
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: it's great because I think that's what makes the show

535
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: so relatable for people who are watching, and there's some

536
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: invested in the characters because they probably all know somebody

537
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: who's been in one of those characters positions before them themselves,

538
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: and they say stuff like, now, that was my friend.

539
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I'll do that all the time. I'll do that on

540
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: this podcast. My friends knowing that should be me. I know,

541
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look out for you when your friends don't

542
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: be you. I'm worried about it. Don't be be your minions.

543
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: They roll up on me in the street. Matter of fact,

544
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: it was with Eric when we when I was shooting

545
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: this was for another project. We went on me and

546
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: the other the female lead, went into the bar because

547
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: y'all was setting up the lights outside. So we were like, yo,

548
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: we're gonna run lines while we're at the bar so

549
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: that when we go outside we're ready. So me and

550
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: her at the bar running lines. Shortly walks up right

551
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: on me. I know your wife, that's not her. I'm like,

552
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: first of all, it's made. Yeah, we just telling I'm like,

553
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: that's mad, rude. You don't even know who this could be.

554
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: This could be a client, this could be someone who

555
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm working with. And she was like she gave you

556
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: three whole boys and then she was gone, she was

557
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: going to take a picture. All that. You have a

558
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a cult following. And I knew this

559
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: when I was on Makeup to break Up and someone

560
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: came into my comments was like, yo, Gavin, and I

561
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: was like, I have a friend name Gavin. First, this

562
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: is after the one scene that I did a summer ago.

563
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, Gavin, I saw you and I

564
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: was like, what are they talk And I was like, oh,

565
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: make up and break up. So it's kind of dope

566
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: to see how you're following kind of follow you guys, Well,

567
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: how did you get into doing it on YouTube? Because

568
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: most people think, like you think, let me come up

569
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: with a concept, let me put it in film festivals,

570
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: let me people like myself. What what made you get

571
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: to that point? I would say easter Y was a

572
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: good inspiration to everybody who's up and coming. Um. You

573
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: know a lot of people they have the pleasure going

574
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: to film school UNC or you know, n y U

575
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: and they basically having like a I don't want to

576
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: say a blueprint, but they kind of have a direction.

577
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like from my perspective, um, I didn't

578
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: go to school for film school, so it's kind of

579
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: like I had to figure out how to navigate it

580
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: after seeing easter Rey do it. She kind of like

581
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: put the blueprint out there for like other content creators,

582
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: it's instant gratification. So, like you said, you can go

583
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: to the comments and they'll tell you what you need

584
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: to work on versus what you expand upon. So I

585
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: think that YouTube was the best field just to grow,

586
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, your platform as far as

587
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: your viewership. So where did you know? It's funny you

588
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: mentioned looking in the comments to see where you can get,

589
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, direction from. It's funny we had taken a

590
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: different approach when it came to comments and stuff with us,

591
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: though we're not doing full on productions, but it is

592
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: a production in our own the videos we do. And

593
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: one thing to Valin I said is that we would

594
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: look at the comments sometimes if we had the time,

595
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: but we would never alter or change our art or

596
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: our perspective or what is we want to put out

597
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: based on what people say per se in the comments.

598
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Do you ever find like a tug of war with

599
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: that where you're like, these people don't know what they're

600
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: talking about in the comments or you actually tell you

601
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: about they have a point. Now I learned a valuable lesson,

602
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: like I would say, just create your own structure, trying

603
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: not to get feedback from comments, just get feedback from

604
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: industry vets. Because I remember it was a big thing

605
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: like people like, we want longer episodes, and I think

606
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: we extended it one time, like twenty eight minutes, and

607
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this is way too long. That happened

608
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: with We started with fifteen minute of logs and the

609
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: numbers were crazy with the fifteen minute of logs. Then

610
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: we got to thirty eight minute laws. People we want more.

611
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: But then I'm looking at the average duration of the

612
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: laws and it was at like twelve minutes. And then

613
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I saw comments, was like, I love you guys, but

614
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I cannot watch third date minutes computers. I was like,

615
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: see this wild. I shouldn't listen to people just going

616
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: with my heart, going with our know works. Yeah. I

617
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: actually want to bring the cast in so we can

618
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: talk about the project, because I know you have an

619
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: announcement for us, but the project, this project has grown goods.

620
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: So now we have the cats of Makeup and break

621
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Up in the house. Can you please introduce yourselves to us. Sure. Um,

622
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: I am Nicolette Ellis and I portrayed Brooke. Hey, my

623
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: name is Omar Salmon, and I play Blake. Alright, so

624
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: let's go tell us about your characters, ladies, first to

625
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: star first, okay, star girl. Um, so I portrayed the

626
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: character Brooke. Um, Brooke, Brooke has gone through a lot crazy, Yeah,

627
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit. I adjusted her though,

628
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: cannot judge your character, you know, but um, I think

629
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: she's gone through a lot, especially with her I guess

630
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: I can say that, right, um Blake, Um, that relationship

631
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: really taught her about self love. I feel like because

632
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: also her relationship um with someone else a married and

633
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: it got a little sticky. And so with that being said,

634
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: I feel like Brooke went through this whole thing of like, Okay,

635
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna involve. I'm going to grow,

636
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to discover myself and I think in the

637
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: new season you will see that. Yeah, Um, Omar Salmon

638
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: and I played Blake. Yeah all right, yeah, let's dude,

639
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: it's too funny, but yeah, I played Blake and Blake

640
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I think it's just a guy. Um, he's time's gonna

641
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: be a little naive, um, a little emotional, but at

642
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, just good, hard to do,

643
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: trying to find his way to navigate. Yeah, you know,

644
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: he's just a regular human being. You know, dude's trying

645
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: to make it and your women just be you know,

646
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Judge Bakes appreciate Blake's character a good guy. Why was

647
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: it important for you guys to portray these roles? Yeah, well,

648
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: I'll just say as far as being a black actor, um,

649
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: and typically we'll get a thug number two or he

650
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: talked about this, You and I talked about this. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's the typical thing. Orum. If they

652
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: do put us in anything, it's the army guy or

653
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: the cop. Right. Um, that's the most that we'll get

654
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: outside of real human beings. But um, we don't get

655
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: people who are every day human beings just navigating through

656
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: life and trying to figure things out. Um. And I

657
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: think with Blake, um, and I would think Brooke as well.

658
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: We just got the chance, an opportunity to explore something

659
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: real and bring it to life and allow people to

660
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: see themselves on on on camera. That's what's up. What's up? Yeah,

661
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: piggybacking off of that. UM, I agree. Um. I think

662
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: as a black woman, you know, we are strong, um

663
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of people see us that way. But

664
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: also we are human and so we do have emotions

665
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: that people don't realize that we have. And I know,

666
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: like they always say, okay, um, they're saving the day

667
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the standard third, but it's also like, no, we we

668
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: are human. We cry. We um. We we might save

669
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: the day, but we also have heartbreaks, um, and we

670
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: go through a lot. And um, I think it's very

671
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: important that we show that we love ourselves. I think

672
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: sometimes we forget about that. And um, I think me

673
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: even seeing it and portraying that character and seeing the

674
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: characters that Eric has created, these dynamic characters, I feel

675
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: like I can relate to a lot of them, even

676
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: when it comes to the men and when they're going

677
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: through their own heartbreaks. So I feel like, yeah, we're

678
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: humans and you guys have been acting for how long?

679
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's over ten years? Because I gotta come over, Tennis.

680
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I got a serious question. Um. I started to No. Six. Um,

681
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I decided to do it in No. Six and oh

682
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: seven is when I actually started starting. Okay, so yeah,

683
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: I suppose like twelve, I started twenty eleven. Okay, yeah,

684
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: so it's about eight years. Yeah. And the reason why

685
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: I asked that is because as actors, I remember at

686
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: one point when I first started, it was like, oh,

687
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a web series. I

688
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: want to be an actor. I want to be on TV.

689
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: I wanna be in movies. What changed in you, guys?

690
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: And and this to you as well to ask a question,

691
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: what made it? You know what let me go to

692
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: the internet. Yeah, see if I can put my talent.

693
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Was there like did you get tired of auditioning the

694
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: traditional way or you know? Because I know that now

695
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't necessarily always doing the traditional

696
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: acting way where you submit a tape, where you go

697
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: to an audition and you get a call back. People

698
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: just putting their own content out now on this platform

699
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: for everyone to see. So yeah, at one point, did

700
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you realize, like, you know what, I'm going to go

701
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: this unconventional route. Yeah? For me, Um, I don't. I

702
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: never really looked at it as the internet, right. I

703
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: just like good work. I like good scripts. So when

704
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Eric sent me the script, I just said, this is

705
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: a good script, and I want to do it. I

706
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: don't really look at it as um uh, the internet

707
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: exposure and things like that. Whatever's supposed to happen is

708
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: going to happen regardless, right, as long as you do

709
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: to work. So it didn't really bother me. I hate TV,

710
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: but I love good work like TV. I hate TV.

711
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: I hate TV. I love good you hate TV. I

712
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: just think it's it's it's not a lot of space

713
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: and not a lot of time. Everything is so pace driven.

714
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: With film, you're able to sit there and dive and

715
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: take it time like that. Yes, so so watching it

716
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: is everything just moves too fast that edits are really quick.

717
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. Um, but film I'm able

718
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: to dive in. Uh. I feel like I'm a part

719
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: of their world, you know what I mean. I always

720
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: want to do film. But at the end of the day, um,

721
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do TV. Don't think I'm not gonna do TV. Right,

722
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I haven't done TV. But once he sent me the script,

723
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: and I've worked with him before, but once he sent

724
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: me the script, I was just so it. I would

725
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: loved it, and I said, let's rock. When you're coming

726
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: up with the script and scenarios, I think That is

727
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: a good thing because you know, I could look at

728
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: their potential as far as actors, and I could say, well,

729
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: let me give them an emotional scene or let me

730
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: give them and see where they're driving a whole episode.

731
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, you could get booked on a big

732
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: time show and maybe have two lines. So you spent

733
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: all these years are going to act in school, and

734
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: you're not really getting to use it, you know what

735
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean said, you're trying to keep yourself busy to

736
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: find other ways that you can use it, whether be

737
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: theater anything. So I should always see their strong points

738
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: on camera, and I would just okay, let me write

739
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: this scene for them specifically so they can stretch their

740
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: selves and so they can have something for their real um.

741
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: And that helped me become better as a writer as well,

742
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: just to see how but they helped me a lot

743
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: when I hit the beats or whatever, so I can

744
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: understand like, okay, get and get out here, you know

745
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: what I mean? Seen here, So it's perspective on it.

746
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that how the actor and then the

747
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: director writer kind of had this interwoven relationship feeding off

748
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: of each other. So you look at like Ryan Coogler

749
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and you look at Michael B. Jordan. They have a

750
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: good relationship because it's like, I know your style. Now

751
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: you know what? Right? It makes sense. So now that

752
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: you said you don't know where things are gonna go,

753
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: tell us where things are going. Do you want to

754
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: give us a little announcement about what's happening with Makeup

755
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: to break Up? Yeah, we got some good news. Um,

756
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: we've I think the deal would bet digital um on

757
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: digital platforms and we are premiere Monday, June UM at

758
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: seven pm. That's what's ups, so you'll check it out. Also,

759
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: my character Gavin has become a recurring character, saying maybe

760
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: maybe not. You got a word for us, um, just

761
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: a creator all the content creators out there. Um, don't

762
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: let nobody tell you what you can't do, and just

763
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: stick with it. You know. I started out doing short

764
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: films first, and on the film festival circuit. UM a

765
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: lot of times. You know, you look for instant gratification.

766
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: You might not get that, but just figure out, you

767
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, which your passion is, and which

768
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: you're strong your strong points all and just continue to

769
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: do it, you know, I mean, And then at the

770
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, it'll work itself out like I

771
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: started in like two thousand and nine and here we

772
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: are ten years later, you know what I mean. So

773
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: you can't just get discouraged and just quit. So that's

774
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: the one thing I'll tell everybody and put your money

775
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: investing yourself. So what season are we in? Just in

776
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: case for people are just new to it and don't

777
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: know anything about makeup to break up? Tell them like

778
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: where we are they should be looking at and can

779
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: we still find it? Yeah? Give me all that good stuff.

780
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: Season three. Season three is what's gonna be premier in June.

781
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: You can check out season one and season to BT Digital.

782
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: Just go to the YouTube platform. It's already there. Now

783
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: kill down, Thanks every day. That's dope, all right, y'all.

784
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: This show is dope. Be sure to check it out

785
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: and we're going to move into some listener letters right

786
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: after we do some eggs. This for the record, there

787
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: it is. Tiger Woods is one of our most inspiring

788
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: sports icons. In his story, it comes with many chapters.

789
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior,

790
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: but here it is the return to glory. This is

791
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: All American, a new series from Stitcher hosted by me

792
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Jordan Bell. You realize Tiger Wis doesn't know who he

793
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: is best in the history of golf, no question in

794
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: my mind. And this season, with the help of journalist

795
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: Albert Chen, we're asking what if the story of Tiger

796
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Woods that the media has been telling, what if it's

797
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: been completely wrong? All American Tiger is out now listen

798
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: and Stitcher, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. So

799
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: now it is down to the favorite part baby, the

800
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: listener letters. Because we love to hear from you all.

801
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: I'll we have two questions today that we're gonna talk about.

802
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: See if we can give you guys, shed some light,

803
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: give a little you know, tipping advice. How hard is

804
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: it balancing the kids, your private life, like your own

805
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: individual prod X and social media. You'll make it look

806
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: so easy, and I know it can't be. So what's

807
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the game plan for that type of stuff? Well, you

808
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head boot, It's sure easy.

809
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: We don't got shipped together, Okay. Every day is a struggle.

810
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: And I say that because literally every day is something different.

811
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Like I do have my moments where I envy the

812
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: person that has like the nine to five and the

813
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: consistent our commute in the morning and the hour commute

814
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: at night, because at least you know what the hell

815
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: to expect. With Devil and I, things are liable to

816
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: pop up like right now, Like he can literally get

817
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: a phone call right now and be like, hey, we

818
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: need to fly you down to Atlanta to do X

819
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Y Z, and I'm like what, and then that completely

820
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: throws a wrench in the plan that we didn't even

821
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: have to begin with. So it's literally having to make

822
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: sure that, of course the children are taken care of,

823
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: so we the village like, yes, this would not happen

824
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: in without those vital key people in our life who

825
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: keep us on track, who love our children as if

826
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: there are their their own children, who are always making

827
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: sure that we're at ease, Like my mom will always

828
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: say to me, I want to make sure that the

829
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: children are so taken care of that you don't have

830
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: to ever worry if you're not with them. Honestly, I

831
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: pray for her several times a day, my Dad several

832
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: times a day, and all of our family who helps out,

833
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean literally brothers, sisters like that really just are

834
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: invested in in our children and in our dreams, like

835
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: they're they're invested in our dreams at this point, and

836
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: we have to, like we have to tell us, tell

837
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: people how blessed we are. Our families literally live five

838
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: blocks away each other, her parents, my parents, and my brother.

839
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: So we have probably about eight to nine people who

840
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: all live in a five block radius. So if we

841
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: have to drop the kids somewhere, we dropped them and

842
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you have something to do. Hey Dad,

843
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: can you pick them up from Jay's house? Okay, you

844
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: got something to do that, Brian, can you pick Like

845
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: we really literally a family for us to sit here

846
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: and make it seem like we're super people and we

847
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: handle everything just some of us, it is not that way.

848
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: We have an army behind us who really helps us,

849
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: and then we have extended arts, aunts and uncles who

850
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: live close to us. Parents, friends, yes, and then realistically

851
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: trusting that village that that if something happens, they got

852
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: our kids and each other. We wake up every morning,

853
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: first thing we do leave each other's Okay, what's your

854
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: plan for today? That's where you gotta be every morning,

855
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: every single morn actually every night. We'll do that and

856
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: then I have to do it again in the morning.

857
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Because I don't be listening to what I'm saying half

858
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: the time, so I have to reiterate what if you

859
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: got them shorts or not? And listen to a thing

860
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: you say, You're so easily distracted when you're ready, You're

861
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: easily you're ready. You are easy distraction. You are very

862
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: easy distraction. Like I'm not even gonna goodness, but yeah,

863
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: we we we don't like the game plan changes every

864
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: day and it literally is like a game time decision.

865
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: A lot of the time. We communicate a lot, like

866
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: we have to. We have a group chat with our

867
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: business manager, with our siblings, with her mom, right, so

868
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: when something comes up, it's like a chain, but everybody

869
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: knows where it was supposed to be and what's going

870
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: to happen. So somebody always has the kids, and we

871
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: always have each other. So we talk to each other like, YO,

872
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: want me to go pick this, I'll go do this,

873
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll go pick that up. You worry about what you

874
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: have to worry about, Oh my goodness. And and like

875
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: last night, for example, Devout had an audition to tape.

876
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: So we're doing the self tape audition at home and

877
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let's leave the babies at

878
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: my mom's because even if they're up late, or they

879
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: won't go to sleep or whatever the situation is, at

880
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: least they're not gonna be making noise in the house,

881
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: so we can get your audition tape done. And then

882
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of writing a keynote speech that

883
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: I have to deliver on Saturday, and Jackson wants to

884
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: stay up and watch the Golden State Warriors games. So

885
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: we're trying to spend some quality time with simultaneously. It's

886
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: just like and then we both look at you and say,

887
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: did you check his homework? Damn? I was like, what

888
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: does that math test? Again? And then he then he

889
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: comes back he said, I got my math test. I said, oh,

890
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: you had it already. What you get? So we're like, Dan,

891
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: we're parenting the ship out of these prepper for that

892
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: one about poor Jackson. But he's great. You know, sometimes

893
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: he's just like mom my, Dad, I missed you guys.

894
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: You know what we're traveling because we've been going through that. Yes,

895
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: they they're tired of us leaving. And that's you know,

896
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: as we start to grow as a business and as

897
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: a brand, we're going to have to make some serious

898
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: life decisions about where we live with our kids, what

899
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: we want to do, and sometimes past like Kadina and

900
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I oftentimes passed on opportunities if it's not in alignment

901
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: with what the children are doing and it's not going

902
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: to be a detriment to us financially. It's like, yeah,

903
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: you know what, we really don't need to do that.

904
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Jackson got football practice, Cairo has to do this, we

905
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: got potty training. Cats hasn't seen us in three days.

906
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: He's been with your mom, Like, nah, let's chill and

907
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: spend some time with the boys. So it's also knowing

908
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: when to shut it down a parent, because that's the

909
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: most important job you have on earth, is being a parent.

910
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely stuff yep, yep. So there you go in a nutshell.

911
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: That help. If not, we've helped ourselves because now I

912
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: know I got some ship I need to focus on. Yeah,

913
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: we're just trying to figure it out. We try to

914
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: stay a flow girl. Yes, but um okay, here's the

915
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: next listener letter question. Is there was such thing as

916
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: curfew for married couples when hanging out with friends? Should

917
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: his or her spouse come home at a decent hour

918
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: when going out along to hang with his or her friends.

919
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: M hm. I don't think this should be a set

920
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: curfew per se, but a common decency as to when

921
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: you're coming into the house that you share with your

922
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: spouse or your significant other. I mean, at least if

923
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: you're in touch. I think that it's okay to be

924
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: out a little bit late. But I don't. We don't

925
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: ever put a stipulation on time where I'm like, devout,

926
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: You've got to be back before the sun goes down,

927
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: or before the street lights come on, or you know,

928
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: before midnight. We don't. We we personally in our relationship

929
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: don't put those kind of restrictions on each other. But

930
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: we are in constant communication. Though my communication tends to

931
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: be bad sometimes, but I try to communicate and let

932
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, at least I'm en route

933
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: to come home, or like how long I'll be out

934
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: more or less. You know. It's funny. I'm really trying

935
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: to sit and think about a time where we ever

936
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: actually put a curfew, and I think, because we were

937
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: dating so young and we're from New York, things are

938
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: open until four am, it never seemed odd to be

939
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: out out late. It's very true, very true, you know,

940
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: and so, to be honest, nor is a leniency there

941
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: with us, just because of the culture around like New

942
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: York nightlife. New York night life is is very different.

943
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: You know, you're out late, and to be honest, you're

944
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: not getting to the club until like midnight, you know,

945
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: three before twelve, So you get there, you know, and

946
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: then you're in the club from twelve, Then the party

947
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: don't really start jump into and then by the time

948
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: you're done, and then you may go get something to

949
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: eat after and you know, you're rolling around three thirty.

950
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: So it's not uncommon for us, because you think about it,

951
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: you've been gone a total of maybe three hours. And

952
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: I think I think that's more of a thing than

953
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: anything else. Like we try to find time for each other,

954
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: and in these busy, this busy lifestyle, we very really

955
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: have time for each other. So there are times it's like,

956
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: you're going out with your friends, can you at least

957
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: be home in time so that we can spend some time.

958
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: And that's that's not his thing or her thing. It's

959
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: just all right, you're gonna spend time with your friends.

960
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I get it. But if we were supposed to spend

961
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: time today, can you at least find time from right

962
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: And it's just so hard right now when I think

963
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: about it, because you know, the small group of solid

964
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: friends that I have, they're so amazing and they're so

965
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: understanding and they get it, and they all have their

966
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: own lives too, and they're juggling a bunch of things.

967
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty and my friendships that I have, UM,

968
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: is that they're able to know, like, Okay, Codeine is busy,

969
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: I am busy. There's no love loss if we can't

970
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: see each other all the time or talk all the time,

971
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: or if I take a while to get back to

972
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: you via text, it's because I could barely text my

973
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: husband back. You know. Things are yeah, because things are

974
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: just crazy and I'm trying to do a thousand things

975
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: at one time. Um. But the communication helps, you know,

976
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: when you can let the person know that you know

977
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: what I wanted. You know, I miss you and I

978
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: want to see you and be home in at decent times.

979
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: This is what I wanted. Someone asked that question, which

980
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: means in our mind we only exist in our relationship.

981
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: It seems odd for someone to ask for a curfew.

982
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: So for me, it just kind of was like, do

983
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: do married people really put curfews on each other because

984
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: when I think of curfew, I think about a mom

985
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: or dad putting a curfew on a child, whereas you

986
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't be no, no, not not we of course with

987
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: with adults, you're definitely gonna get pushed back. But for me,

988
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: it's like you put curfews on a child so that

989
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: you can avoid them being out during a time when

990
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: you know only bad things can happen, or you put

991
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: a curfew on a child to where it's like I

992
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: want to go to sleep, and I'm not going to

993
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: sleep until you're in the house, so you need to

994
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: be soundly until I know you're in this house and

995
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: you're safe. So I kind of want to pose this

996
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: question because I'm interested in knowing, you know, do other

997
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: couples put curfews on their marriage. Not that it's a

998
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: bad thing, but I want to know, you know, what's

999
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: the premise behind it and what's the reasoning behind it,

1000
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: because I'm like it really when I was sitting here

1001
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: thinking when you were talking about why would someone put

1002
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: a curfew on their spouse? And I want to know

1003
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: because I'm has like a negative connotation you think about

1004
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: it even if you're say, you know, you're in trouble

1005
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: with the law and they put a curfew you can't

1006
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: be out past a certain time or something, or it's oppressive.

1007
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: It makes you feel like why are you trying to

1008
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: keep me in the box? And I have to be

1009
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: home at a certain time. So yeah, that's interesting to

1010
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: hit me in me and my DM send an email

1011
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: to dead ass Advice at gmail dot com and let

1012
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: us know what you're throw perfect. I really want to

1013
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: know because this could be a topic for podcasts, because

1014
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: that really made me wonder, like thing people really put curfews,

1015
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: like oppressions within relationships or something like that, or a

1016
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: ways people feel oppressed in some relationships are oppressive. I mean,

1017
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: if you even the idea of marriage and where it

1018
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: started from was very oppressive. You know, women were considered property, right,

1019
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: that's the only reason why marriage started. Women were considered property.

1020
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: So the idea of oppressive relationships, we're not that far

1021
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: removed from women being oppressed in this country where we

1022
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: can't acknowledge that there are still oppressive relationships. But I'm

1023
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: interested in knowing, you know, like what's you know, what's

1024
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: the mindset behind it? I'm interested and so yeah, definitely.

1025
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: If you guys want to be featured as one of

1026
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: our letters or if you have any feedback about curfew,

1027
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: email us at dead as Advice at gmail dot com. Yes,

1028
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: that's D E A D A S S A D

1029
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: V I C E at gmail dot com. So what's

1030
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: your moment of truth about social media? Ah? My moment,

1031
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: There's so many truths because this is I feel like

1032
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: this is like our specialty, it is our livelihood, so

1033
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: this is like what we do. Um. So there's so

1034
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: many moments of truth that I can pull from this

1035
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: entire episode. Um, But I guess if I had to

1036
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: just pinpoint one thing, it would be two. Continue to

1037
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: or if you haven't yet develop a thick skin when

1038
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: it comes to social media and your content, it's art.

1039
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: It's out to be subjective. People are going to feel

1040
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: some kind of way, and you, in turn cannot feel

1041
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: some kind of way. If somebody felt some kind of way,

1042
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: should be excited about it, exact agree. So take what

1043
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: could potentially be something negative or make you feel badly

1044
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: about and turn it around and be like, you know

1045
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: what somebody felt away about this? They're engaged, they're talking,

1046
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: they're sharing they're sending it to their friend, they're tagging them,

1047
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: because ultimately that means that it sparked something in someone

1048
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: to then debate your topic and to give their feedback,

1049
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: and then you may potentially learn something, uh see learning something.

1050
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: You may potentially learn something that you didn't know before

1051
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: you willing that. My big takeaway is own your life.

1052
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Social media gave us an opportunity to create autonomy in

1053
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: our lives. We created a business where we can support

1054
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: our families but also share our art, control out narrative,

1055
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 1: and do what we want to do in this life.

1056
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: Because you have one innigable right on this earth when

1057
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: you're born, and that's to survive by any means necessary.

1058
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: And if you can use social media to survive and

1059
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: enjoy it, why you're surviving? Why not? And why the

1060
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: social media way? Like, we don't know how long this

1061
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: is gonna because I mean, I think social media is

1062
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: going to continue to go grow and it's you know,

1063
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: but in terms of like you know, brands being conscious

1064
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: and being a part of the partnerships that we do

1065
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: now and just anything that's happening right now in this moment,

1066
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: if you can capitalize on it, do it while you

1067
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: can absolutely, absolutely and check this out. If you like

1068
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: what we're doing, be sure to follow us on social media.

1069
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: That's I am de Val and Cadeine I am. I

1070
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: want to spell it out because you like to spell

1071
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: H A D double eight and it's a Nancy I am.

1072
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: On Instagram, you flip that, yeah. And if you're listening

1073
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, be sure to subscribe, rate, download the episode.

1074
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: Like I told you before, Tell your friends, tell your mama,

1075
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: tell you Auntie, tell everybody to listen to Dead as

1076
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: Dead as Dead Ass is a production of Stitcher. It's

1077
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: produced by T Square, Stephanie Karaouke and Dinora Opinion. Our

1078
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: executive producer is Chris Manning, and we'd like to give

1079
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: a special thanks to our recording engineer Jared O'Connell, our

1080
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: sound designer Brendan Burns, and studio manager Ashley Warrent. We'll back.

1081
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm Drew McCarry and I'm David Roth. We have a

1082
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: podcast going on right now as part of the stitchen Net.

1083
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: We're called Substraction that's available everywhere. Get a podcast at Stitcher, Spotify, Apple,

1084
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: Go listen right now to the Distraction right now, it's out.

1085
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Do it please