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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Camellia Williams is a browd and loving Georgia mother of five,

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Speaker 2: and things take a dark turn when she reports to

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Speaker 2: family a weirdo following her around.

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Speaker 1: Why was an illegal migrant set free free to walk

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Speaker 1: amongst us then to become States suspect number one? And

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Speaker 1: the brutal choking death of a mom of five leaving

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Speaker 1: one of her favorite stores. First of all, listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Cobb County, Georgia police and EMTs respond to a nine

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Speaker 3: to one one call with reports of an unconscious person

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Speaker 3: just before eight thirty am. What they find is a

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Speaker 3: woman's body in a Camellia bush, her face partially covered

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Speaker 3: by her disheveled sweater. Police says she's been dead for

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Speaker 3: several hours and it appears there was a struggle. The

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Speaker 3: woman is identified as Camellia Williams, a mother of five.

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Speaker 3: Camillia's family in Louisiana say she wouldn't hurt a fly

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Speaker 3: and could hold a conversation with anyone.

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Speaker 1: Justice Tonight for Camellia, joining me and All Star panel

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Speaker 1: to makes sense of what we know right now, but

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Speaker 1: straight out to Crime Stories. Reporter Dave Mac joining us

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Speaker 1: at the same day. First of all, explain to the

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Speaker 1: viewers where you are right now.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we are in Cobb County, Georgia, just outside

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Speaker 4: of Atlanta, on pat Mel Road, which is a fairly

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Speaker 4: active road, a lot of homes, and as you can

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Speaker 4: see directly behind me right here, Nancy, the body of

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Speaker 4: Camelia Williams was found behind that house in a wooded area.

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Speaker 4: That's where we're located right this minute.

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Speaker 1: You know what really strikes me, Dave Mac, is that

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Speaker 1: people that have never had any their lives have not

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Speaker 1: been touched by violent crime, and God bless them. I

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Speaker 1: don't want their lives touched by violent crime. They perceive

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Speaker 1: that murder, rape, all sorts of violent crime occurs to

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Speaker 1: somebody else, somewhere else, nowhere near them, and they're safe.

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Speaker 1: And I get it. I'd like to think that too,

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Speaker 1: But I know differently because look at where you are.

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Speaker 1: That is a beautiful suburb, a tree lined neighborhood where

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Speaker 1: you think nothing could go wrong. But it did go wrong,

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Speaker 1: Dave Mac.

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Speaker 4: Horribly wrong, Nancy. Just to give you an idea, I

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Speaker 4: actually reached out to one of the neighbors here as

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Speaker 4: I was setting things up and talked to him for

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Speaker 4: a minute, and he was able to tell me exactly

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Speaker 4: what took place and where it happened. This is a

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Speaker 4: community where they know one another. They can walk to

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Speaker 4: the store from here. And in this particular Familia was saying,

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Speaker 4: I've got somebody that's eyeballow me. You know, this is

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Speaker 4: an area where you don't expect anything like that at all, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: this is a place where we would all like to live.

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Speaker 4: You realize, great school system, You're ten minutes from everything.

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Speaker 4: It's a very convenient suburb, beautiful homes. It is just

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Speaker 4: an amazing moment you realized nobody, and I mean this, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: nobody's safe.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Looking at a lot of funny poses from Camellia and

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Speaker 1: from what I've been told, what I have learned, she

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Speaker 1: was the light of everybody's life. You know that person

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Speaker 1: when they walk in the room, You want to talk

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Speaker 1: to them, you want to be with them. Five children

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Speaker 1: call her mom. Look at her posing in that pink hat,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about five children now without a mom

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Speaker 1: joining me right now, her brother's speaking on her. Behalf

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Speaker 1: Tony and are seeing Williams, Tony, are seeing Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us, sirs, Tony, when did you learn

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Speaker 1: that your sister had been killed?

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Speaker 4: That day?

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Speaker 6: About nine o'clock, ten o'clock that morning when my brother

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Speaker 1: When you first learned, Tony that Camelia was dead, did

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Speaker 1: you have any idea that she had been murdered? I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you think, oh, she was in a car accident,

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Speaker 6: Just yeah, that kind of crossed my mind. Not murder,

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Speaker 6: but she might have had a brain and a risin

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Speaker 1: You know. Joining me, Cheryl McCollum, Founder Director cole Case

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Speaker 1: Research Institute, host of a Hitting You podcast, Zone seven, Cheryl,

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Speaker 1: I was just showing I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: see your monitor, but I was just showing a kind

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Speaker 1: of a memorial, a makeshift memorial to Camellia. There it is,

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Speaker 1: and it just breaks my heart because this is what

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Speaker 1: is left of her five children. Cheryl, you have two.

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Speaker 1: I have too, and I remember a few times I've

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Speaker 1: had to go under the knife. And the last thing

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Speaker 1: I think is God helped me get through this to

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Speaker 1: raise the twins. Don't leave them without a mother. We've

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Speaker 1: got five children. This woman has given birth five times

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Speaker 1: and is raising these children. And you know you hear

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Speaker 1: when you think all that's left is a makeshift memorial

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Speaker 1: of some pictures and some candles. They've got the rest

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Speaker 1: of their lives, Cheryl, to live with life without Mommy.

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Speaker 1: Their sentenced to life without their mother.

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Speaker 7: You are exactly right, Nancy, And the ripple effect of

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Speaker 7: this horrific crime is not only their life, but you're

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Speaker 7: here in her brothers, her family, her friends, her neighbors,

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Speaker 7: her loved ones that reach far beyond Georgia. This is

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Speaker 7: something that every one of them is going to have

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Speaker 1: Guys, we are bringing in. I don't even call it

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Speaker 1: a story, because it's real. It's not. A mother of

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Speaker 1: and she's been worried because some guy she thinks has

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Speaker 1: been following her, and lo and behold, her worst nightmare

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Speaker 1: comes true. Joining me in addition to mister Tony Williams,

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Speaker 1: this is Camillia's brother. Her other brother are scene Williams.

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Speaker 1: Mister Williams, thank you for being with us. When did

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Speaker 1: you learn that Camellia was dead?

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Speaker 8: Good morning morning when they found her body in the.

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Speaker 1: Bush, just saying it like that, found her body in

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Speaker 1: the bushes. Darryl Cohen joining me, former felony prosecutor in

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Speaker 1: the same district Attorney's office where I practiced for a decade,

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Speaker 1: now defense attorney. You can find him at Cohen Cooper

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Speaker 1: Estephan Allen. Darryl, thank you for being with us. You

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Speaker 1: and I prosecuted and investigated. I mean, neither one of

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Speaker 1: investigated the case, ourselves, going to the crime scene, speaking

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Speaker 1: morg you name it, Darryl Cohen. That's an added layer

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Speaker 1: in my mind of brutality to murder a mother of

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Speaker 1: five and then leave her body, just leave it in

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Speaker 1: the bushes. You remember how Julie Love. I remember the

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Speaker 1: Julie Love murder case. She went missing while jogging and

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Speaker 1: was missing for the longest time, and then when the

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Speaker 1: Julie Love's body. What was left of it was near

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Speaker 1: up thinking Mommy was left dead in the bushes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that's not probative, Daryl Cohen, but I guarantee

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Speaker 5: Nancy, who cares whether it's probative or not. What I

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Speaker 5: care about, and the jury cares about, is what happened.

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Speaker 5: It may or may not be quote evidence, but it

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Speaker 5: certainly isn't not evidence. In other words, once heard, once seen,

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Speaker 5: once felt, it goes to the jury. This is unbelievable. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I remember Julie Love, and I remember who they thought

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Speaker 5: killed her, and they were so wrong, and later they

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Speaker 5: found the right murderer. And here it's one of the

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Speaker 5: worst examples of someone who doesn't care. I am going

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Speaker 5: to do what I want if I have to kill,

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Speaker 5: so what, And I'll just leave her here because I'm

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Speaker 1: It's horrible, you know, our seeing Williams joining us sisters,

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Speaker 1: community's brother along with Tony and I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: into the facts as we know them right now. And

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Speaker 1: remember this illegal migrant is in a until proving guilty

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Speaker 1: at a court of law our scene. You stated that you

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Speaker 1: learned about your sister's death. Did you immediately presume that

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Speaker 1: it must be an accident or natural causes as Tony did,

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Speaker 1: or I mean, murder wouldn't have even crossed my mind

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Speaker 9: I thought it was natur becauses. I really did.

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Speaker 8: But then when I found out that she was murdered,

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Speaker 8: that just hit me.

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Speaker 10: More different than.

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Speaker 9: An accidental death. That was one hundred percent murder. He's doctor.

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Speaker 8: He waited for her to be by herself and did.

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Speaker 2: What he did.

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Speaker 1: You were hearing Tony and Arsine Williams speaking on behalf

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Speaker 1: of their sister. They came from a large family. Camille

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Speaker 1: had five children that she was helping raise, giving it

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Speaker 1: her all, an incredibly devoted mother. That's all ended, according

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Speaker 1: to police, thanks to an illegal immigrant that had been

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Speaker 1: mother of five. Listen, just why she would have whatever

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Speaker 1: you wanted out of her purse. She would have given

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Speaker 1: they wanted out of her purse, she would have given

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Speaker 1: her daughters, from our friends at Atlanta News. First, I

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Speaker 1: want to circle back to how her body was found.

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Speaker 1: I find this very interesting. Joining me at the scene

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Speaker 1: is Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter. Dave Mac confirmed

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Speaker 1: this if it's correct that her face was partially covered

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Speaker 1: by her own disheveled sweater. And I've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, but is that correct? That is correct, Nancy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's telling me a lot right there, Dave Mac. Number one,

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Speaker 1: we're told that nothing was stolen. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: motive there may have been, but right there, if her

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Speaker 1: was stripped off of her or it was pulled up over.

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Speaker 4: Her head right exactly. And the whole point of putting

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Speaker 4: hide her body, But also it tells us a lot

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Speaker 1: Can you know what, Dave mac I have accused you

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Speaker 1: quite often of being an MD of the psychiatric variety

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Speaker 1: because what you just said is right, okay, And I

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Speaker 1: don't need an MD a medical degree, So sorry, uh,

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Speaker 1: doctor Coin and doctor angel Arnold, I don't need an

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Speaker 1: MD to tell me that a medical degree. Cheryl McCollum,

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Speaker 1: how many times have we seen a murder victim's face covered? Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a shrink. I don't know the answer to that,

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Speaker 1: but I know it to be true, and tootally we

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Speaker 1: Mack is right.

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Speaker 7: I think Day's going to something.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've all had training.

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Speaker 7: At the police academy that says that they cover the face.

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Speaker 7: It's because they don't want the person looking at them

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Speaker 7: and they can't tolerate the look at the person while

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Speaker 7: they're doing this horrible violet crime to them. Again, he

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Speaker 7: went to the extent of taking her to another location

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Speaker 1: Joining us again, are seeing Williams. This is Camilia's brother.

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Speaker 1: You were saying something, mister Williams.

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Speaker 8: Yes, how did he murder my sister and wanted to

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Speaker 1: Joining us at Allstar pound him make sense of what

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Speaker 1: That is Camellia's niece, Danielle. And that's when our friends

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Speaker 4: No, it has not been released yet, and I haven't

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Speaker 9: Today they found her bottom of.

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Speaker 1: My sister was found dead, Tony, When did you learn

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Speaker 1: When a jury hears that, they're going to do a

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Speaker 5: He is the me and what all of us fear

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Speaker 1: Crime stories. With Nancy Grace joining me right now, special

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Speaker 1: you for being with us, doctor Coin. Is there a

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Speaker 1: prove forensically that she was that Camellia was sex assaulted?

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Speaker 13: Yes, you can differentiate amongst post mortem and anti mortem injury.

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Speaker 1: When you say, doctor coin that you can take sections

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Speaker 1: Guys, the reason I am grilling Dr Thomas Coin about

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Speaker 14: Detectives with the Cobb County Police Department spend two days

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Speaker 2: A body is discovered in the bushes in Cobb County, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: In addition to an all star panel to make sense

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter, Dave Mack, We're hearing about ring video. You know, doorcam.

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Speaker 1: Where would that video be? And you have totally canvas

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Speaker 4: Well, not the bushes where her body was found, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: This is something that tells you I'm in a neighborhood

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Speaker 4: That's what's going on here. So you've got ring doorbell

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Speaker 4: He then drags her over behind the house and in

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Speaker 1: My stars, I'm just thinking about this, Mama five. What

437
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Speaker 1: was going through her mind when she was fighting for

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Speaker 1: her life and Dave Mac Let's take Dave Mac in full, please,

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Speaker 1: So she's walking along the sidewalk where you're standing, Dave,

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Speaker 1: he rushes her then, in broad down light for Pete's Satan,

441
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Speaker 1: drags her across the street, through the bushes down to

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Speaker 1: where he murdered her.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. From the ring doorbell camera

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Speaker 4: on one side of the street right here, as I'm

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Speaker 4: showing you that's the house, and it's directly behind the house.

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Speaker 4: You've got a clear line of sight. You got not lside,

447
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Speaker 4: but a clear pathway to go from right here to

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Speaker 4: behind the house. And by the way, once you're behind

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Speaker 4: the house and in the woods, Nancy, you've got some

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Speaker 4: privacy there. It's not wide open back over there. Wide

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Speaker 4: open right here, not so much back there.

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Speaker 1: Because I knew at the get go, Cheryl McCollum when

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Speaker 1: we first learned Cheryl founded director of Coldcase Research Institute,

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Speaker 1: forensic expert, star of a podcast, owned seven Cheryl, when

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Speaker 1: I learned that her face was covered by her sweater,

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Speaker 1: I knew her sweater was either removed from her body

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Speaker 1: or pulled up. For what reason would you expose a

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Speaker 1: lady's breasts other than a sex assault? Now the brothers

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Speaker 1: are seeing Antoni are telling me she was sex assaulted

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Speaker 1: post mortem after death, doctor Coin telling me that can

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Speaker 1: be proved if the evidence is there. Cheryl, think about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's enough to make you stay home and

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Speaker 1: hide under the bed. This lady leaving the store, minding

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Speaker 1: her own business. What do you believe she was thinking

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Speaker 1: about as she was being dragged literally off the sidewalk,

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Speaker 1: across the street, through the bushes, through a yard, into

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Speaker 1: a heavily wooded area. I mean, I want to just

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Speaker 1: lot Michelle up and throw away the key. And this

469
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Speaker 1: is after this guy comes to our country, our country

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Speaker 1: to avail himself from all the blessings that we have.

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Speaker 1: And that's fine, but he slips through the crickt Cheryl

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Speaker 1: walking free, and he murders this mother of five. I mean,

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Speaker 1: post wartem sex attack five children, broad daylight. Can it

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Speaker 1: get any worse? Cheryl?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Nancy. This person stalked her.

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Speaker 7: He waited. Now, this is where you really need to

477
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Speaker 7: focus on this crime. He didn't just see her and

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Speaker 7: attack her. He had stalked her, and he waited. He

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Speaker 7: waited until she was alone. I believe he had the

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Speaker 7: secondary crime scene planned. He knew as soon as she

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Speaker 7: was by her walked toward that area. He knew where

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Speaker 7: he was going to take her already. This reminds me

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Speaker 7: a lot of Lake and Raleigh. That person laid in wait,

484
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Speaker 7: and he knew exactly where he was going to push

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Speaker 7: that victim also into a wooded area where he would

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Speaker 7: not be seen. This is what we call a salt target.

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Speaker 7: So when you say it's in broad daylight, it was

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Speaker 7: in broad daylight without a weapon, because he knew he

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Speaker 7: didn't need one.

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Speaker 1: Now Jerry's has been watching way too much TV and movies.

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Speaker 1: Expect DNA. They even expect a video. Well, guess what

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Speaker 1: we've got a video. Listen.

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Speaker 3: The video shows the man wrapping Camelia in a choke

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Speaker 3: hold and dragging her to bushes in front of a

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Speaker 3: home on Patmel Road. When Camellia goes limp, the man

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Speaker 3: then puts both knees on Camelia's neck and kneels there

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Speaker 3: for several minutes, preventing Camelia from breathing. The young man

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Speaker 3: then casually walks away from the scene.

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Speaker 1: Casually walks away from the scene, walks away from the

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Speaker 1: scene after putting both knees on her neck. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't end there. According to Camellia's brother, he then returns

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Speaker 1: to sex assault her body. Two are seeing and Tony Williams,

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Speaker 1: Camillia's brothers joining us. Her children must be just reeling

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Speaker 1: and now they have to live with the thought that

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Speaker 1: their mother was dragged across the street and into the

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Speaker 1: bushes and murdered. When did you discover, Tony Williams, that

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Speaker 1: there was actual video a part of the attack.

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Speaker 8: Just ma'am, well, that's our scene talking.

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Speaker 6: I knew about the video right almost a week ago.

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Speaker 6: But you don't want to speculate until, like, for all

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Speaker 6: the facts come out.

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Speaker 1: Tony. I got a question for you. How are her

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Speaker 1: children doing?

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Speaker 6: They're doing okay, but they're doing for what respected they're

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Speaker 6: going through right now. You know, you don't expect to

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Speaker 6: bury your mom, your sister at heart age the bad roam.

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Speaker 6: They just still think it's a bad dream. When you

518
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Speaker 6: said something anty a little while ago that he slipped,

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Speaker 6: he slipped through the cracks when he came in in

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty one, he didn't slip through the cracks. The

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Speaker 6: lastest the lastest administration gave him that opportunity to slip.

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Speaker 8: Through the cracks.

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Speaker 6: They gave him a cord date to go to court.

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Speaker 6: He didn't show up.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you are so right. Slipping through the

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Speaker 1: cracks doesn't do it justice. Listen.

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Speaker 14: Hector Segastume travels from Honduras to the US and tries

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Speaker 14: to enter the country illegally. In March twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 14: According to the Department of Homeland Security, Segastume is arrested

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Speaker 14: by border patrol, but later released into the country and

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Speaker 14: given notice to appear for an immigration hearing at a

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Speaker 14: later date. More than two years later, Segastume does not

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Speaker 14: show up for his July eleventh, twenty twenty three hearing,

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Speaker 14: and a judge orders him removed from the US and

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Speaker 14: deported to Honduras. Immigrations and Customs enforcements say they have

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Speaker 14: placed a detainer on Sagastume twenty one, pending the results

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Speaker 14: of his trial and sentencing.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Our counting a.

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Speaker 1: Hello, this is far all on? Hello, far counting all on?

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Speaker 7: Can anyone hear me?

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Speaker 2: Looks like what if we're going to the head or

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Speaker 2: shirt bed removed bubber breasts.

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Speaker 1: Not far from where the body of Camellia is found.

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Speaker 1: A short ride away is where co Ed Lake and

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Speaker 1: Riley was found sex assaulted and murdered. When we just

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Speaker 1: played that nine on one call where you hear the

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Speaker 1: Clark County nine to one one dispatch saying, hey, is

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00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: anybody there? Anybody there? What she's hearing is Lake and

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Speaker 1: Riley being murdered. Lacoln tries to call nine one one.

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Speaker 1: This beautiful nursing student tries to call nine one one,

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Speaker 1: and she can't speak. She is being murdered again by

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Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant, a member of a violent gang that,

554
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Speaker 1: like in the current case, escapes justice. Is actually apprehended

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00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: in New York on another violation. An illegal immigrant apprehended

556
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Speaker 1: in New York City on another violation and walks free

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Speaker 1: only to murder Laken. Listen.

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Speaker 15: Her encounter with him was long, her fight with him

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Speaker 15: was fierce, and that is what the garment data shows.

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Speaker 15: And once her heart stops at nine twenty eight a m.

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Speaker 15: There's no more movement from her garment.

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Speaker 16: A Bora was lying in wait and sexually assaulted and

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00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 16: killed Lake and Riley. But what led them to the

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Speaker 16: apartment is they found that evidence in the dumpster and

565
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 16: they were getting tips from people about illegal immigrants living there.

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Speaker 16: His brother working at the cafeteria of the donning An

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Speaker 16: area of the University of Georgia, unknowingly being any illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: From our friends at the News disc straight out to

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, joining us. She and I investigated and covered

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Speaker 1: the murder of Lake and Riley. The similarities are overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: The comparison between what happened to Laken and the hand

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Speaker 1: of someone a criminal illegally in our country who evades

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Speaker 1: justice and goes on to kill the similarities are overwhelming.

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Speaker 7: Nancy, to me, when you start saying the similarities are overwhelming,

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Speaker 7: some of them are just gut wrenching. And one of

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Speaker 7: them is both cases have video. They have video of

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Speaker 7: these victims. One is jogging, one is walking, minding their

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00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 7: own business, going through their day like they would normally do,

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Speaker 7: and this perpetrator comes up behind them and attacks them.

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Speaker 7: They're just doing what they would do any other day, innocently, legally,

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Speaker 7: and you have these folks that are in this country,

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Speaker 7: number one, illegally. They should not have even been here,

583
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Speaker 7: but now they're here illegally doing something illegal. In both cases,

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Speaker 7: sexual assault was what they were asked for, and they

585
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 7: simply decided it's not enough to attack her. I'm going

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Speaker 7: to get rid of the witness.

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Speaker 1: Joining us on the scene where Camellia's body was found

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Speaker 1: dragged into the bushes at the hands. According to Belize

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Speaker 1: and an illegal migrant, Dave Matt. You also joined us

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00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: from the courthouse during the trial of lacln Riley's killer.

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Speaker 4: What happened, you know, Nancy, One other, one other thing

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Speaker 4: that ties these two together with jose Barrow. When they

593
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: found these stuff in the in the trash dumpster, they

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: were able to go back to his apartment where they

595
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 4: found his illegal alien brother also living with him. Same

596
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 4: thing happened here with Revas, Hector Revas. When the police

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: went to the first address they had, he wasn't there.

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00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: When they went to a second address they had, what

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Speaker 4: did they have? Two other illegal aliens that they were

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Speaker 4: supposed to have been deported already. So we've got both

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Speaker 4: of those similarities where they're living with the illegal alien

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Speaker 4: or immigrants and are gathered up together at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Whinnie Bara actually was convicted. You know, the one thing

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Speaker 4: we never saw from him was any sign just empathy

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00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: or simp There's nothing. It was like this boyd area

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00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: in him, and I'm thinking we're going to see the

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: same thing with this alleged killer.

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Speaker 17: When I woke up, it felt like it felt like

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Speaker 17: a shadow. It also felt like like profound.

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Speaker 1: Like sadness, emptiness, like I just knew that there was

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Speaker 1: something that I think it's just mother's intuition.

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Speaker 17: I just knew there was something that wasn't right, that

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Speaker 17: there was something terribly wrong.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know what it was.

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Speaker 10: On what should have been Rachel's thirty eighth birthday, and

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Speaker 10: then a poetic coincidence or perhaps in Rachel's own divine assistance,

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Speaker 10: are investigators uncovered a lead that led us to this day,

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Speaker 10: and on this day, I'm here to tell you Rachel's

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Speaker 10: murder is no longer a free man.

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Speaker 1: Joining us on the scene where Camellia's body, a mother

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Speaker 1: of five, was found, is Dave Mac. Dave Mack. You

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Speaker 1: and I also investigated the Rachel Mooren murder and it

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Speaker 1: took a really long time to track her killer. And

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Speaker 1: what finally caught him as in this case in PS

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Speaker 1: Rachel Moran, a mother of five. You were just hearing

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Speaker 1: her mother speaking to me. Here on Crime Stories was

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Speaker 1: video ring video where Moran's killer had committed another crime

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Speaker 1: in la and they caught him leaving the home. He

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Speaker 1: tagged a nine year old little girl and another woman

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Speaker 1: in the home. Remember that, Remember that, Dave Mac.

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Speaker 4: It was shocking, Nancy, because that was out in California.

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Speaker 4: And as we were researching the Rachel Morin case, because

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Speaker 4: you know, she's on a trail where she goes on

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Speaker 4: a regular jog. I mean, this was like this most

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Speaker 4: wholesome thing in the world. And this guy is an

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Speaker 4: illegal alien who's already gonna hate his crime on southern California.

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Speaker 4: Now he's totally across the nation under the radar and

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Speaker 4: ends up where Rachel Morin is just out doing her

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Speaker 4: daily jog. But he lays in wait he's able to

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Speaker 4: pick his victim, and when he gets into the right

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Speaker 4: where that's when he attacks and is another Pinus vicious

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Speaker 4: file murder. And then we're left with, well, who could

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Speaker 4: have done this and where is he? But there was

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Speaker 4: the ring doorbell video and there is DNA. The same

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Speaker 4: thing is true here. We've got that ring doorbell video

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Speaker 4: and we actually are going to have enough evidence, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: when everything is said and done, that we'll be able

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Speaker 4: to tie these crimes to the alleged victim. The problem

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Speaker 4: is that we don't seem to be stopping the problem

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Speaker 4: at the border. When we stop these individuals, we stop them,

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Speaker 4: we give them a court date. They don't show up

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Speaker 4: for the court date. And then here we are with

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Speaker 4: another murder.

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Speaker 1: How many more mothers will have to live what Jos's

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Speaker 1: mother has lived through? The men that lured Josson to

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Speaker 1: under a bridge and sex assaulted her and murdered her

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Speaker 1: two illegals originally from Venezuela. How will it end? When

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Speaker 1: will it end? First of all, let's get justice for Camellia.

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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the

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Speaker 1: murder of this beautiful mom of five Camillia, please dial

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Speaker 1: seven seven zero four nine three nine four five repeat

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Speaker 1: seven seven zero four nine nine three nine four five.

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Speaker 1: And now we remember an American hero, Corporal Scottie Cana

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Speaker 1: zero Baton Rouge, PD, killed in a line of duty

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Speaker 1: along with Sergeant David Pourier helicopter crash. Survived by wife

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Speaker 1: Chelsea and son Ethan American hero Corporal Scottie canezero. Nancy

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Speaker 1: Gray signing off goodbye friend,