1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Total Group. Jackuar Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter J. P. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Shadwick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: the Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville Sea Fields First, Jacksonville's premier 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: luxury auto group. Go to Fieldsauto dot com. JP Shadwick, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: John Oser from the Hounday Studios, the Midller Electric Center. 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks out in Los Angeles. It's been a couple 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: of weeks, Bucky. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 4: How are you? 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: What's up? 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm good, guys. What's going on? 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: You know, kind of a little bit of a lull 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 3: time around here, Bucky. Between free agency starting and then 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: the off season programs coming up. It would be time 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: for thirty visits. But that's been relatively quiet. So it's 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: pro DA season for you. I've seen you all over 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: the place, Buck, just a little. 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Bit, just a little pro day work. 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: Cam Ward on Monday, got a chance to look at UH. 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: I would say maybe the consensus QB one of the clocks, 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: even though I may have a different opinion, and I 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 5: will get a chance to look at uh shoulder. Sander's 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 5: coming up in a week after spending some time. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: In whatever, Dallas, Texas at Big twelve product. So I've 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: been all over the place. Buck. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 6: He's not buying cam Ward apparently not. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: No, I'm not saying that Sanders. I just have Sanders 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 5: ranked over him. But it doesn't mean I can't like 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: both of them. Doesn't mean it has to be contentious 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 5: or debate. We're not how to take TV, you know 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: what I mean? 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: He bucks tight with you know, he was doing footsteps 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: on TV the other. 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: Day, trying to trying to help the next generation of 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: dv's break properly. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: That's all the stuff. Yeah, that's all like, look look 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: fun with that. That was That was fun. Coach Brime 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: is always is always fun. Yeah, no, it it's been 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: a bit. 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 5: Of a whirlwind, had little mock draft come out, had 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff, trying to you know, trying to 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: stay relative, you know what I'm saying, Trying trying to 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 5: stay active. 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you certainly are. You're active. We know that. So 48 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: all right, let's let's talk about this. 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: The Miami Pro Day right earlier this week, cam Ward throwing. 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: The Titans sent their entire leadership group down there. But 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: there's still like these reports that. 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: They may or may not be into it. 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: He you know, cam Ward's you know, talking to those 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: guys after making throws on the field. What's your read 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: on that situation is it is that pick up for 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: a trade? 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Like, what's the what's the situation right now? One? 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: I think they're playing it out to the very end. 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 5: If someone comes up and makes them offer, they can't refuse. Uh, 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: they would consider it. 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 62 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: I think you have to assume that they're going to 63 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: take a quarterback. They need a quarterback as the biggest need. 64 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: You can't play in this league without uh really without 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: an elite QB one, you don't have a chance. Especially 66 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: in the AFC. They have a chance to get a 67 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: QB one. Look if they take Ward. He is spectacular 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: in terms of his arm talent. He is kind of 69 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: stout and sturdy in the pocket. He kind of reminds 70 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 5: me a little bit of what they would have when 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: they had Steve McNair. He's not quite the runner, but 72 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: he's kind of like the rugged alpha dog leader that 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: takes charge and kind of changes the franchise. He look, 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 5: he has a lot of a building, and it would 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 5: make for a very very competitive division to have another young, 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: dynamic quarterback kind of step in. 77 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 6: Okay, Bucky, I have a question for the NFL philosopher, 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 6: which you are Wow. Well, and here's what I'm getting at. 79 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like cam Ward is a guy that 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 6: teams automatically love. There are quarterbacks who come out there 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: are no brain or number one overall. If you're getting 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 6: if you have the pick, you take him. Even if 83 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 6: you've got a guy cam Woord. You know, while talent, 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 6: it doesn't seem to be that here. The Titans are 85 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: second year of the head coaches regime. You've been inside buildings. 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 6: I'm not saying this is the case in Tennessee, but philosophically, 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 6: I think the Jaguars went through it the Bortals year 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 6: a little bit. You feel like, at some point you've 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: got to take a quarterback, right. How tough is it 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: when the franchise maybe doesn't know if it's the quarterback 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 6: and you're just trying to take one because the timing 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 6: is there, you get them getting am an that comes 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 6: into it. You would hope it doesn't, but what happens 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 6: when it does? 95 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think I think it's natural. 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: I mean, we're all humans, we're not robots, so those 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: things seep in. We can talk about needs and best 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 5: available all day, but if you're looking at your team 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: and you know that you need a quarterback, it's hard 100 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: to resist the temptation to take a quarterback that is there, 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: that is rated at the top of the board. What's 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: interesting about cam Ward is I would say that maybe 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: his in your face personality would be an acquired taste 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 5: for a leader and franchise in those things, And so 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: you have to be very comfortable with someone who is 106 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: very brash and look a lot of things that people 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: may not like about Shooter Sanders. You can also say 108 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: about cam Ward in terms of his leadership style. 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: And those things. 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: But what you can deny is the arm talent is real. 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: You feel it when you see him what when you 112 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: see him throw the ball around the yard in person. 113 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: You also feel his kind of impact on the team 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 5: whenever he plays, whether it's Incarnate Word, whether it's Washington State. 115 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: And then finally at Miami, look, the team takes on 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: a bit of his personality like it or. 117 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 4: Not, but he's a really good player. 118 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: He's really talented, and he's fearless and that would make 119 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: him scary within the division. 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 6: Is he Cam Newton? 121 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: No, he's not Cam Newton because he's not a runner 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: like that. 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 6: He is a personality where he takes over that you know. 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: Nah, No, Like I think I think Cam Newton is 125 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 5: like different, But I would say, look, look, the best 126 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: of Cam Newton was really really good when it came 127 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 5: to kind of being the leader that took over and 128 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: do it. I don't think he's as flamboyant as Cam 129 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: Newton was, but I would say that the spark, the 130 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: energy that he gives off, it definitely has some of 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: those vibes. Like he went down to Miami in one year, 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: like really took over as the leader demanded. 133 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: A lot was. 134 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 5: Very confrontational when it came to challenging players and bringing 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: some of that out. 136 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: And I would say that's not all bad. 137 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: A lot of that is good because you would like 138 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 5: your quarterback to ultimately be your leader, and when your 139 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: quarterback is unafraid of confrontation, it makes everyone kind of 140 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: raise their level to play. 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Up and kind of rise up to me, the standard 142 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: another quarterback who doesn't lack for confidence is yours. So 143 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 3: why do you have him ahead of cam Bard? 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 5: If we're playing a game tomorrow, I think Shaduur Sanders 145 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: is better prepared to play a game. 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: Shaduur Sanders. 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: When you look at I would say, not the pedigree, 148 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: not just the pedigree or whatever, but watching what he 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: did at Jackson State, then looking at the two years 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: of Colorado, the fact that they are pro coaching from 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: Pat Shermer, a former NFL head coach, former NFL offensive coordinator. 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: The concepts they utilize are the ones that we see 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: on Sundays. There's gonna be I would say, an ease 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 5: and transition in terms of dealing with the verbiage and 155 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: the play calls and concepts in those things. The other 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: thing that I would say is for Shudure, some of 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: the flamboyants and some of the things that we see 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: in front of the camera don't accurately reflect how he 159 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: is off the camera, because off the camera he's pretty quiet. 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: He's pretty to himself, but he is a bit of 161 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: the pie piper in terms of how guys gravitate towards him. 162 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: To me, the key with shaduur is does the head 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: coach have enough security to be able to coach him 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: hard and to be able to talk to him without 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: worrying about all the other stuff that may come with 166 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: him when it comes to the dad, the reputation and 167 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: all of that other stuff. 168 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 6: I've heard people say, though, Bucky and from people that 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: I knew, who knew Dion, Dion was this way when 170 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 6: he played too, that a lot of the shows just 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: show and once you get once the cameras leave the 172 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: locker room. They always said Dion was a great teammate. 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: And you know, now I assume that Shador has a 174 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: little bit of the same quality. I heard somebody take 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 6: a couple of weeks back. You don't have to worry 176 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 6: about the about the circus coming with this guy. That's overrated. 177 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: But do you think teams are scared of that? And 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 6: I mean, you know the family obviously. Is that a topic? 179 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 6: Is I mean or that a social media talking heads thing? 180 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: No, I think there's there's something to that. 181 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: I think it can It can scare you if you 182 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: don't know him, And it depends on if they let 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 5: you kind of inside the inner circle where you really 184 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: see the real them. For me, my relationship with Dian 185 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: goes all the way back to two thousand and nine, 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 5: having worked with him for a bunch of years at 187 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 5: NFL Network and Talk and watching him talk about his 188 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 5: youth football coaching days and his high school days and 189 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: then making his way to college. So I kind of 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: know him pretty well, so I get the real when 191 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: it comes to him with his son, it was the 192 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: first time that I've really had an extensive conversation with 193 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: him and off. 194 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: Air like he is very much like his dad in 195 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: terms of like. 196 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: Quiet, reserved, calculating, in terms of like processing and taking 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: everything in. I think that maybe the thing that people 198 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: miss about him is he does have a high football 199 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: like you, he does understand the game at a high level, 200 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: which would you would kind of expect because that's part 201 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: of the reason why people like legacy and bloodlines when 202 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: you're evaluating kids that look, football is the family business. 203 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: So he has some of that. But I'll say this, 204 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: like his arm talent and his athleticism is not what 205 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: Kim Ward brings to the table, Like he doesn't bring 206 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: that same level of excitement and spectacular throwing prowess. But 207 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: what he is that Cam Ward isn't is. He's a touch, 208 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: timing and anticipation thrower. The ball comes out well before 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: wide receivers make their break, and that is more like 210 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 5: the pro game. Cam Ward needs to see it, but 211 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 5: because his arm is so spectacular, he can make up 212 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: for it by seeing it late and just kind of 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: throwing the fastball by everybody is just a difference. 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: I think I wrote about you doing. I kind of 215 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: liken them to Greg Maddox. 216 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 5: He's not gonna overpower you with the fastball, but he's 217 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 5: gonna paint the corners and you're gonna look up and 218 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: he has a two hit, another win, and you can 219 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: be like, wow, I can't believe we lost to a 220 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: guy that just kind of like not Deacon Dunks, but 221 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: plays a very control short to intermediate game and finds 222 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: a way to continue to move the offense down the field. 223 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: Eighty nine mile an hour, two seamer on the black, 224 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: seventy six pitch, perfect game or a complete game. Jeez, 225 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: that guy Bucky Brooks with us to tuddle up with 226 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks. 227 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: What about this Big twelve Pro Day. 228 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: I don't know if any other conference is doing this 229 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: where all the schools send their guys to one location 230 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: for what four days? 231 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Were you there for all the days? 232 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 4: Yeah? I was there. It just means a little more sometimes, 233 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: you know. In the Big Twelve. 234 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: Oh really, I'm just saying. 235 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, I don't know why the SEC 236 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: wouldn't have a pro day to let us see all 237 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 5: the guys. 238 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: But the Big Twelve decided that, like football is important, 239 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: they wanted everyone. 240 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: About time, even to see it about time. 241 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's uh. 242 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because they it is a great 243 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 5: event because you got a chance to see everybody right there. 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: It's like having a mini combine. 245 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: But for some of the guys that didn't have the invites, 246 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 5: and you got a chance to see them do all 247 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: the testing together as a scout and evaluated. You got 248 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: a chance to kind of watch some of the guys 249 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: that maybe you were debating on how you put the 250 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 5: grades or which order they should be able. You get 251 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: to see us to see them work out back to back, 252 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 5: which is always helpful. It was a cool event just 253 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 5: because you know, you get a chance to see so 254 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: many guys. And even though it's an abbreviated workout session, 255 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: meaning the position drills were about twenty to twenty five minutes. 256 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: You got a chance to see a lot of the 257 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: guys work out. 258 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 5: You were able to kind of put the finishing touches 259 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 5: on some scouting reports, and you had a chance to 260 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: see and talk to a bunch of scouts to kind 261 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: of get their takes on a bunch of different players 262 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: and things that are kind of happening around the league. 263 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: What was the uh I've been back in the day 264 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: to quite a few team site pro days. What was 265 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 6: the vibe among NFL people? Did they, I mean, would 266 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 6: they like this to be a trend just for ease. 267 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: It's funny because there were some coaches that were there 268 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 5: to see players and workout players, and what they didn't 269 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: like is they didn't have that opportunity to do to 270 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 5: one on one step that you would get descous and 271 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: stuff like it because it saves you a bunch of 272 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 5: different trips. Instead of having to go to Wacot and 273 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: Lubbock and make your way to the little Apple Manhattan, 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 5: you can just sit right there in the start in 275 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: Dallas and kind of see everybody. Due the deal, I 276 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: think they're pros and cons to it, But I think 277 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 5: the pros far outweigh the cons in terms of being 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: able to have one stop shopping where you can see 279 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: everybody in just one big advantage. 280 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 6: Well, because eventually if they want to get one on 281 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 6: one time, they can get them like to a thirty visit, 282 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 6: or they can. You can fix that with a little effort, right. 283 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you can fix it a few different ways 284 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: to fix it. You can have a private workout where 285 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 5: you meet them on campus and do that. You also 286 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 5: can have them come on a thirty visit where they 287 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 5: come to the facility and. 288 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: Meet all the personnel. 289 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: You get a chance to eyeball them, meet with them, 290 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: have dinner with them, get a feel for how they 291 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: would fit into the locker room. The thirty visits are 292 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: really important, but also being able to get them on 293 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: campus and in their environment and have dinner with them 294 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: that also matters too. 295 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 4: It just depends on reference. 296 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: If you are a people person, if you are really 297 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 5: big on establishing relationships before you kind of make the call, 298 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 5: you want to be able to get around them, and 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 5: you can get around them better when it's a traditional 300 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,359 Speaker 5: pro day as opposed to a combine. 301 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: Like this was. 302 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: The new season is right around the corner and the 303 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: time to get those season tickets. The membership is right now. 304 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Be at the bank for every touchdown security seats at 305 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com slash tickets. We're called nine oh four 306 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: to sixty three three two thousand. It's huddle up with 307 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, JP, Shadrick, John Osier. We're at the middle 308 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: of Electric Center in the Honday Studios Bucky Brooks in 309 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. And speaking of those thirty visits, you know, 310 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: we've had it so many different ways over the years, 311 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: with different regimes, Bucky. You know, they've had situations where 312 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, they had like fifteen guys on one day, 313 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: fifteen on another. 314 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: And we interviewed a bunch of those guys that year. 315 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Remember John, we had. 316 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: Bridgewater and Johnny Football and Clowney and all those guys. 317 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: A J. McCarron, all those guys are in the building 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: on the same day and blames here that day. We've 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: had it where they split them up over you know, 320 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: the little bit of time here and there's a couple 321 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: of day or they kind of cherry pick some guys 322 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: and we don't get to see them sometimes. Well, John, 323 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: you were talking about yesterday on JAG's am, it's not 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: happening this year for the Jacks. 325 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bucky. 326 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 6: My understanding is much like the Rams the Jaguars, if 327 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 6: any very very few thirty visits, maybe not do it. 328 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: And I know the Rams and you know the Jaggares. 329 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 6: People have said this, the Rams are sort of the 330 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 6: north Star. There's going to be a lot of uh, 331 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 6: you know, a mimicking of that because that's the approach. 332 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 6: I know. The Rams philosophy with the combine was always, uh, 333 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 6: let's not cloud what we think about these guys with 334 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 6: on field stuff and stuff that's not on the tape. 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: I'm assuming the thirty visit relatively the same philosophy you've 336 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 6: been in side. I sort of lean toward wanting to 337 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: know more about a guy, but this is sort of 338 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: a different approach. 339 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they still can get to know guys because remember, 340 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 5: just because you don't bring someone on a thirty visit 341 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: doesn't mean you can't have zoom calls or regular phone 342 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: calls to talk to. 343 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: Them to get to know them and do it. 344 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: It would be a different approach, but there may be 345 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: some value to that because everyone won't know who you 346 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: are necessarily interested in and I'll say, like looking at 347 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 5: the Rams and what the Rams have been able to 348 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: do for the last few years, whatever that approach is, 349 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: it's worked for them. The thing that they know is 350 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: the guys that the Rams have always wanted, guys that 351 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: love ball. Now everyone would come to your facility and 352 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: profess their love a ball and how much look they 353 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: can't go without ball in their life and those things. 354 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 5: But it's another thing that those actions and words really 355 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 5: line up. The Rams have been able to identify guys 356 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: that have those core characteristics where football is important. They 357 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: love it, they love competing, they love the day to 358 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: day monotony of getting better. 359 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: Hopefully the Jaguars can find those guys. 360 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 5: As they talked about the Rams being their north star 361 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 5: and what they would aspire to be like within the 362 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: confines of having their own identity as the Jacks, there's 363 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 5: some value to having a locker room that are full 364 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: of guys that love ball and would do anything for 365 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: the team and anything that they can to get better 366 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: and to kind of master the crap. 367 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 6: I think we've talked about this before, Bucket. I'm not 368 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 6: sure if it's been on the air or no, just 369 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 6: when we talk, but in terms of getting to know 370 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 6: that part of what you just talked about, which to 371 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 6: me is sort of known. You know, it's easy to 372 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 6: know if a guy loves ball once you've been around 373 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 6: him for a month, once he's been around your strength 374 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 6: and conditioning guy who can court, who can sort of 375 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 6: see through a guy's facade really quickly as somebody who's 376 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 6: been on the road and tried to get to know players. 377 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 6: To me, what you're saying is, you've got to have 378 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 6: people who have been around this guy who you trust. 379 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: It's more talking to people who know him and who 380 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 6: have seen him in real time than it is talking 381 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 6: to the player. Am I reading that right? I mean? 382 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: Is that just about just doing your research and doing 383 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 6: your reporting on a guy? 384 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. 385 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 5: It is that, and it'll really be on And this 386 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: would be fascinating to kind of watch how this plays out. 387 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: A glass on trust and relies on the scouts and 388 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 5: the building guys that he may not have had a 389 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 5: relationship with. 390 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 4: How much is he willing to lean on their opinion 391 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: when it comes to what a player is. 392 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: I can tell you as an area scout, look, there's 393 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 5: there's a part of you that is part detective. 394 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: When you go evaluate these prospects. There are times I 395 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: can tell you. 396 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: You just go to Washington State and I would I 397 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: would hang out for a couple of days and kind 398 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: of know the lay of the land and go to 399 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 5: the watering holes that some of the players would go 400 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: to and talk to some of the people that work 401 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 5: at the restaurants and hey, have you seen this play? 402 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: What is he like when he's in here? 403 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 5: And you talk to all the academical whatever people, But 404 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: you really find out about a player by asking the 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 5: people around town as they begin to paint that picture. 406 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 5: Maybe a lot of what the Jacks are doing is 407 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: having their scouts kind of do some digging to make 408 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: sure that they feel really good about the players that 409 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: they put on the board, the players that they're considering, 410 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: so that you know, not only are they going to 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 5: represent themselves well as model citizens, but they're gonna come 412 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 5: in and have the core traits that we're looking for 413 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 5: when it comes to being the alpha competitors. Guys that 414 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: love ball, guys that love the process and everything that 415 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: goes along with it. Because if you're able to put 416 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 5: because you've heard Glass, don't talk about this like, look, 417 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 5: the culture is really a collection of guys that kind 418 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: of think the same way. 419 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: About ball and the way the team operates. 420 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: Where you go and get a bunch of guys that 421 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 5: put the team first, that love the work and those things, 422 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: the culture naturally flips where you don't have to talk 423 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 5: about it. 424 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: The team is already about. 425 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: I could just picture when you were talking about this, 426 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: fuck you sitting at the coug and pullman like with 427 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: a mustache on and a hat, and. 428 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: This is in the corner all the way back spying. 429 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: You know. 430 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, the young version of me could just blend right in. 431 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: I could go. 432 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: I could go right to the fret house and get 433 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: my little rig up and nod my head and sit 434 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: in the back with everybody else and just kind of 435 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: watch what's going on. I mean, I mean I started 436 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 5: scouting one or two years right after our place. 437 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: So he's just got to blend in. 438 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: Now, this version of me, I would probably feel a 439 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: little belichicky if I was. 440 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 6: In the spots. 441 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 7: It would be a little different, you know, But but 442 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 7: I could I could certainly go in there and do 443 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 7: my best imitation maybe with my hood on the kind 444 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 7: of sit and just kind of observe and see what's 445 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 7: going on. 446 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: Him wearing his crouch and marks classes. 447 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 6: I can see that. I can see it, you know, 448 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 6: pouring water in his in his beer bottle. Here's partaking, 449 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 6: but a kidding aside. I have known gms over the 450 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 6: years who consider what Bucky's talking about the key aspect 451 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 6: of an area scout because they feel like, hey, I 452 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 6: can see the guy on tape, I know what measurables 453 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: I'm looking for. They can send high end across checkers 454 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: to see if they like the way the guy plays. 455 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 6: I can get a feel for a guy face to 456 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 6: face at the combine, but that guy can't know the 457 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 6: twenty five campuses that an area scout has to know. 458 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 6: The area scout's supposed to know the strength guy, the areas. 459 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 6: The scout is supposed to know a couple of guys 460 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: at the bars, you know, to know what these guys are, 461 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 6: and they're they're tell me what I'm getting here, not 462 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: what I'm seeing on tape here. So I think that 463 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 6: is crucial if you're trying to find guys who you 464 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 6: truly believe. You're not gonna sit there three months down 465 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 6: the road and say, Okay, this guy likes ball, but 466 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 6: he didn't love it, so I mean there's there's a 467 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 6: big difference in that, and that's what the ear of 468 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 6: scouts are all about. 469 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: Thank goodness, nobody scouted you or I in college, John, 470 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: because that scouting report would have been. 471 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 5: Shot full of goodies, but always a bad thing. That right, 472 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: There are some goodies in the report. Some people like 473 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: guys with the little character because. 474 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 6: That is there's a balance. 475 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean awesome. 476 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 6: You can't you know, I think it's okay to go 477 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: to the front party. You don't have to be there 478 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 6: at two am. 479 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: And you can have It's good John, you can't leave early. 480 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 6: Come on, man, I was there at two am, but 481 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: I wouldn't have wanted me on my team. 482 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: Attention music fans. 483 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty five season of Dailies Places Underway. 484 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: Shows coming up. 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They're they are not far away. 495 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 5: Got it like that, And I think, get a good 496 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 5: stretch in, get ready to kind of participate in my 497 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 5: whole little off season program. 498 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: On the field. 499 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: Are you gonna get in there with the coaches and 500 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 6: the players? 501 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure, make sure I bring my clise up 502 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: when I when I watch practice. 503 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 6: This is another year JP where where on field activities 504 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: ot as are important. It's a new staff and a 505 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 6: new regime. It is so in this does matter to 506 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 6: the players. I don't necessarily think that what we're a 507 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 6: it is all that great at a shorts practice, but 508 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 6: it is important for these guys to get the feel 509 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 6: of what's going on. 510 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 7: Right. 511 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 6: It's voluntary, it is volunteer's voluntarily important. It's importantly voluntary. 512 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: It is it's that voluntary mandatory thing that I would 513 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 5: like to throw out there. I mean, it's voluntary, but 514 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 5: you know, kind of like to have your like to 515 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: have your presence there. 516 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: And how you do anything is how you do everything. 517 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: So better be really really really really good. 518 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: Mh. This is this would be the perfect time to 519 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 5: pull up the the old Tom Coughlin quote from a 520 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: few years back when he talked about we need to 521 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 5: know your commitment level. If you devoted to team, you 522 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 5: got a little trouble for that. I believe these cinemas 523 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 5: may be shared if you're in the building. 524 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 6: If you're good, very good, better be good. 525 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're can we can? We count on you? Can? 526 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: We count on you? 527 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 6: Can? 528 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: We trust you? Are you dependable and reliable? All those things. 529 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: We kind of get a chance to see some of 530 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: that in off season program. 531 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: All right, we've made it another week, Bucky. What do 532 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: you got coming up? We got more Pro day stuff? 533 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: Uh not just yes, you. 534 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 5: Were standards on April fourth, and you know JP path 535 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 5: to the Draft starts next week. 536 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: A conversation about the same twenty. 537 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 5: Five prospects that we like to talk about on TV. 538 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: But then we'll try and crack it open a little bit. 539 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: Talk about some of the guys that the Jacks could 540 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: potentially look at. Means maybe one or two more mock drafts. 541 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: In case you missed it, three point zero was just released. 542 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: What do you have this time. Missed it. I did 543 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: miss it. 544 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. Look, I'm not gonna give you. 545 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give you. 546 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna give you anything that is whatever, especially 547 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: considering how I feel like the people would think that 548 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: I would have some extra insight on the Jacks. So 549 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 5: Mason Graham it is again. So it's an all like 550 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: we're alternating between Mason Graham and Travis Hunter. 551 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 6: Uh. 552 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: I pondered maybe. 553 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 5: Shaking it up a little bit and putting Ashton Genty 554 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 5: there at five, just to like. 555 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: Whoa, let's get serious. 556 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: I didn't know. I did, come on, man, I thought 557 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: about it. I thought about it like a conversation, conversation starter. 558 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: Oh, it'll start a conversation that would end quickly. 559 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: Maybe never know that. 560 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 6: I didn't mind Jeremiah's pick for him last week. The 561 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 6: oh who was the pick the edge from Georgia. 562 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Georgia guy Walker Jalen. 563 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: Walk, Jayleen Walker. Okay, where are we gonna put him at? 564 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 6: I don't know. 565 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: So we're gonna have three edges on there's only two 566 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 5: wages that you can play. 567 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 6: With pickyon inside on passing. 568 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: Remember the old cheatah package yeah. 569 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 5: So so okay, So so what you tell them me 570 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 5: is we get Walker. Wait, there are only so many 571 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: linebackers on the field, so somebody has to come and 572 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: sit out. 573 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: That wasn't a problem last year. 574 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 5: I mean yeah, for you, you got Lloyd, We got Walker. 575 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: I mean, like like his musical chairs, John, we're putting somebody. 576 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: Somebody's out, somebody's left out when the music stops. 577 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 6: Gotta take, gotta take. 578 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 4: Ok Alright, alright, oh boy. 579 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll rotate a guy on defense. 580 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: We're just all right, We're just gonna tack and just rot. 581 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Right on that note. On that note, we'll call to day, Bucky. 582 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. 583 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 5: Alright, alright, Many Brooks, John Ozer, Gay P. 584 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: Shatterer. 585 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: Thanks to Joe Borgo and Brent Reaver. Thanks to you 586 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: for listening to huddle up with Bucky.