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Speaker 1: You are listening to the End a Round podcast and

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Speaker 1: we are talking about the Falcons All Decade Team. Will

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Speaker 1: mcfed and Kelsey Conway. Thanks for joining me on this

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Speaker 1: sunny Friday afternoon. How you guys doing good? Matt, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing great? Kels how are you? Where

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Speaker 1: are you? Kelsey? I'm great. I am in Maryland and

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Speaker 1: I am back home with my family and just enjoying

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Speaker 1: some time. So cool. So we've been talking a lot

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Speaker 1: about this All Decade team, and we are this week

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Speaker 1: we are unveiling the defense and Special Teams units. And

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Speaker 1: before we get into that and go into the list,

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Speaker 1: I just want to ask each one of you where

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Speaker 1: were you when this decade begins, specifically twenty ten. What

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Speaker 1: were you doing and where were you and how closely

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Speaker 1: were you following this Falcons team? Kelsey Europe? Wow? Okay,

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Speaker 1: are you ready for this? So twenty ten, I was

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Speaker 1: in my freshman year at University of Cincinnati, and to

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Speaker 1: answer your question, I was all about Cincinnati football, the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals, So I was not following

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Speaker 1: the Falcons very closely. I've said it. When I first

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Speaker 1: started with the Falcons. I pretty much only knew about

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Roddy White, and Julio Jones. So for me,

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Speaker 1: this project has been really fun because I've gotten to

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Speaker 1: learn obviously, you know, having been with the team now

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Speaker 1: for the six seasons, I've started to you know, get

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Speaker 1: to know some of these guys watching Willie mos highlights,

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Speaker 1: you know, things like that you hear about Abe and

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Speaker 1: that I was here when Babineau was his final season,

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Speaker 1: was my first year. But it was fun to kind

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Speaker 1: of learn more about some of these guys who I've

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Speaker 1: heard so much about, you know, through different people in

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Speaker 1: the organization or like I said, you know, watching old

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Speaker 1: games that it was really fun to kind of just like,

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Speaker 1: you know, dig deep and learn more about this decade

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Speaker 1: of Falcons football. Who Day? Who Day? The Bengals? Who

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Speaker 1: was their quarterback? I guess them red Rifle right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, they had some good years. Will Where were

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Speaker 1: you so? I was in Marietta, Georgia, just down the

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Speaker 1: road from Atlanta. UM grew up here. I was getting

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Speaker 1: ready to the twenty ten season would have been the

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Speaker 1: fall of my junior year in high school. UM I

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Speaker 1: grew up Falcons fan. My family had season tickets, so

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Speaker 1: probably was going to several of those games. Um And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting because I just went back and

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Speaker 1: rewatched the entire twenty ten season and that team was

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Speaker 1: really the first great Falcons team since the ninety eight season.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and four was good, but that twenty ten

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Speaker 1: team just won every The number of times that they

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Speaker 1: would have a thirteen play drive to start the game

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Speaker 1: and just run Michael Turner down people's throats was really

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Speaker 1: impressive to watch. Mike Smith loved to go for it

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Speaker 1: on fourth down that year. So even going back and

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Speaker 1: rewatching this season kind of put me back in the

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Speaker 1: shoes of you know, when I was just watching at

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Speaker 1: home in my parents couch, or you know, if it

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Speaker 1: was a good Sunday from the Georgia theom What about you, Matt,

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Speaker 1: where were you in twenty ten? Interesting? Well, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. I never thought I'd end up in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I that in twenty ten, I moved from North Carolina

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports and one of the first one of the

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Speaker 1: first covers that I made for the website was Believing

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Speaker 1: or Now I was thinking about I haven't a picture of.

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Speaker 1: It was the Falcons, Matt Ryan running out. They used

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Speaker 1: to have those you know, those fireworks in the Georgia Dome,

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Speaker 1: and I remember hat there's this picture Matt Ryan I

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. That was a great team. But

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Speaker 1: I never ever dreamed that I would be in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: covering the Falcons. But yeah, it's interesting you bring up

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Speaker 1: that twenty ten team when people read our roundtable, it's

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Speaker 1: it's one of those teams that I think is forgotten

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Speaker 1: about when you think of the great teams of the

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Speaker 1: last decade, and yet you mentioned Michael Turner led the

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Speaker 1: league in rushing. I would give anything to go back

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Speaker 1: and then the ludicrous song, which I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: he led the league in rushing, and that team one

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Speaker 1: if they'd won that game, Holy cow. And then Roddy

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Speaker 1: White led the league in catches and yards. No Julio

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Speaker 1: That may have been one of the most balanced teams

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Speaker 1: in franchise history. Should have won, should have went far

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Speaker 1: their top seed, and then the eventual Super Bowl champions

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Speaker 1: came into the Georgia Dome knocked them out. They just

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Speaker 1: tell about it, don't talk about it. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's all right. So the All Decade team, which was

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Speaker 1: voted upon by people in the organization, local and national media,

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Speaker 1: former players and people of the like too, and we

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Speaker 1: have the list now it is. I'm just gonna rattle

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Speaker 1: but let's just go through it. The defensive ends were

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Speaker 1: reading it. The defensive tackles were Jonathan Babineau and Grady Jarrett.

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Speaker 1: Linebackers were Dion Jones, Curtis Lofton and Sean Weatherspoon. Cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: Desmond Trufant, Robert Alford, safeties William Moore Ricardo Allen, and

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Speaker 1: the flex position was Brent Brimes. Special teamers kicker Matt Ryant,

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Speaker 1: punter Matt Bosher, returner Devin Hester, long snapper Josh Harris,

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Speaker 1: and then a special team's right in was Eric Weens. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's get into this team, guys. Let's get well

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Speaker 1: the defensive side anyway, and we'll talk special teams in minute.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just get you go back and

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Speaker 1: forth with you guys on this. But first thing, there

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Speaker 1: was only one unanimous pick on defense. One on special teams,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryant were the two unanimous picks. Not surprising, what

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Speaker 1: John Abraham is certainly one of them. So I think

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Speaker 1: think it was just Abraham was the one glaring a mention? Will? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: think Jonathan Babino should have been on a unanimous selection. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think that, you know, when you think of

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Speaker 1: just had some star power Pro bowlers, you wonder if

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Speaker 1: I think you've gotten your best bet when you banked

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Speaker 1: will what said you? All right? So my so my

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Speaker 1: going to defend the linebacker position for this decade by saying, wait,

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Speaker 1: you're saying that the linebacker group is the strongest that

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Speaker 1: Matt Posh Bosher at punt at punting, right, I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just think, what do you think? Unanimous?

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Speaker 1: It's like the no brainer, which, of course at punter

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Speaker 1: it's no brainer. But who voted for somebody else than

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Speaker 1: Matt Bosher? That's what That's a good point present yourself.

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Speaker 1: Michael Canan was a good punter. I will just defend

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Speaker 1: Michael Canon, but it should have been Matt Boscher. But

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Speaker 1: Michael Canon was a good punter. Okay, so now we

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Speaker 1: know who What about Josh Harris, who's been a better

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Speaker 1: long snapper here in Atlanta the last decade. That is

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Speaker 1: a really good question. That's that's a no brainer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we know voter our will voter for Harris? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, you know, I don't know you guys

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Speaker 1: thoughts on special teams. I think we should talk quickly

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Speaker 1: about who were some other guys that you thought if

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Speaker 1: there was another special teams player role that you would

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Speaker 1: have put on. Because I found myself remember how good

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Speaker 1: Nate Stupar was on special teams. Patrick DeMarco was good

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Speaker 1: on special teams. There's been a couple of guys who

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Speaker 1: have been good on special teams. Obviously, not of you

444
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Speaker 1: know the impact that Weems was. But there were a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys that when you look back, there there

446
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Speaker 1: were some good, solid core special teams players like Leroy

447
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Speaker 1: Reynolds was when he was here. Hopefully he'll be that

448
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Speaker 1: again for them this year. But there were a couple

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Speaker 1: of players that I was like, m you could make

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Speaker 1: a case. I don't know. I can't. That's that list right,

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Speaker 1: there was all my votes, so I can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: back off that. I'm putting young Wau on the list

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Speaker 1: just because he got four onside kicks last year, which

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Speaker 1: is like insane and he should just automatically be on

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Speaker 1: this list for that. You know, if he could have

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Speaker 1: an onside kick every game next season and money, Matt

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Speaker 1: still deserves be on that list. Come on, hey, so

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Speaker 1: you wanted to add a person she wanted. I never

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Speaker 1: I never saw Matt Brian making three on side kicks

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Speaker 1: in a game. You were the guy that wanted to

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Speaker 1: make the argument that Matt Brian was the most important

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Speaker 1: player in the in the in the decade. I think

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Speaker 1: you can. I think you can make that argument. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: which is it? Did you want to name somebody I did? No,

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Speaker 1: I forget it's right, she she made her case for

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Speaker 1: a handful of players. Um I didn't know if okay, yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, defense, if this team's gonna hit

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Speaker 1: over the hump, because how many how many Dony teams

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Speaker 1: in the last decade, will Or Kelsey had double digit

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Speaker 1: wins in the last decade, you had tea, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: had three, three or four? Right, I mean you had

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, they won ten, twenty ten, they won thirteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, let me say sixteen, they won eleven, eleven

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Speaker 1: and whatever, and then they won thirteen and twelve, right yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so four, so and you could argue that two of

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Speaker 1: those teams they had top ten tight defenses three twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty seventeen. So you know, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the key, that's what this team needs. This team is

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Speaker 1: loaded year in and and year out with under Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: With Matt Ryan in this era, Um, they have been

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Speaker 1: more than Pope non offense with or without Julio. You know,

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Speaker 1: Matt you say that, and this defense needs to step up.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Oh yeah, And you know what's interesting that

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't I don't think I would have really thought

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Speaker 1: of until I looked back at the last decade and

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Speaker 1: when you know, you said, what position group do you

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Speaker 1: think was the best? And then you know, what do

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Speaker 1: we think was the worst? I think the issue has

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Speaker 1: been is depth. So you know we talk about will

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Speaker 1: you said something like every year the Falcons have had

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Speaker 1: like one like really good linebacker. You need more than

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Speaker 1: one really good linebacker. You need more than one really

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Speaker 1: good cornerback. You definitely need one more than one good

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. So I think, when I look back on it,

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Speaker 1: that's been kind of where I think the Falcons have missed.

496
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Speaker 1: Miss the mark is having multiple players at positions. And

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Speaker 1: I guess we're talking about depth here, but like if

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Speaker 1: you look at the Falcons on offense, it's, you know,

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Speaker 1: pick your poison out receiver. You gotta shut down Julio, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then Calvin goes off. On defense, it's you shut down

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00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Grady and then it's I mean you just kind of

502
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: throw your hands up in there and hope that tack

503
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: or Vic last year would get to the quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: they weren't that successful doing it. So I didn't really

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Speaker 1: realize that until I looked back on the last decade,

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Speaker 1: and I think adding depth is something that they've they've

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Speaker 1: really not had and so it'll be interesting because they

508
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: do have more depth this year, but holding off on

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Speaker 1: any thoughts until a training camp, yeah, definitely. And death

510
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: is huge because of it's a contact sport, y'all. It's

511
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: guys get hurt, and our fans seem to think like, well,

512
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Speaker 1: you know what they're they're they're not playing enough in

513
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: the preseason or the trainers got to go No, it's

514
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: a contact sport. Guys get hurt and you need depth.

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Speaker 1: And if this defense too, when you think about it

516
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: has been just his devastated, especially as of late when

517
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Speaker 1: it comes to injuries from Dion to Keian or Ricardo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, it's just been

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Speaker 1: I also look at depth when you look at it

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of I said, I thought the secondary

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Speaker 1: was the most talented position they've got in the last

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Speaker 1: decad It kind of seems like the year since they've

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Speaker 1: had decent enough cornerbacks that can hold their own, they've

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Speaker 1: missed it up front, and then it's like, Okay, now

525
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: they have Dante Fowler, Grady Jarrett, Tyler, Davidson, what's that

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Speaker 1: secondary going to look like? Because I think we could

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Speaker 1: all agree the position of question most on the defense

528
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Speaker 1: is the secondary. So it's kind of interesting when you

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Speaker 1: look at when you look at all three levels of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now especially will wrap it up. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about this year, like you see a

532
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: team even in our own division, the Saints, I think

533
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: are exactly an example to use of how important defense is.

534
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, they had three straight seven and nine seasons.

535
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Falcons are coming back to back seven and nine seasons,

536
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: And it really wasn't until they started building that defense

537
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: and focusing on that until he started once again asserting

538
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: themselves as a premier NFC team. So the Falcons are

539
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna be good on offense under Matt Ryan while he's here,

540
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: while Julio Jones is here, Like they can conjure up

541
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: enough weapons around those two guys to put together a

542
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: top fifteen offense. The key is you've got to have

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. They've got to be

544
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: working in tandem. They've got to get turnovers. They've got

545
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: a four sacks that create punts to get the offense

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Speaker 1: the ball back. You can't be giving up two touchdowns

547
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Speaker 1: in the first quarter and playing from behind every game

548
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Speaker 1: again in twenty twenty. I mean, there's no surprise that

549
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: we saw the defense improved in twenty nineteen. And then

550
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: you go six and two. Right there you go, I

551
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: have to bring up the Saints. And why did you

552
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: have to bring up linebackers and the Saints? You know

553
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: that I know all good things, Matt. Well, you know,

554
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm still a little I don't know raw over the draft.

555
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, Zach Bond going to New Orleans. I did

556
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Speaker 1: not like that. I love that pick, and I think

557
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna provide that depth. And it's just it's gonna hurt.

558
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt. We got we had. We had some

559
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: pretty good picks. I'm and I will say this about

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Speaker 1: the draft. I like the defensive picks. Everyone talks about

561
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Marlon Davidson, but Terrell He's got size, he checks a

562
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: lot of boxes. I think he's gonna surprise. And I

563
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: also like the linebacker and the safety Hawkins and Walker.

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It's all yeah, ELFs good, great. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know me, don't talk to

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00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: me about defense. I'm all about offense. I'm one of

567
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Speaker 1: the people in the building. You don't like, do you

568
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: know how many times Matt says this building loves offense. Well,

569
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Speaker 1: I'll just say it. I'm one of those people. Yeah,

570
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: we need some more daddies, more daddies. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for jumping on, and you know we'll talk. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk some offens here next