Speaker 1: All right, we're good.
Speaker 2: You like.
Speaker 3: Busting with the boys, hanging with the face, betting on
Speaker 3: the game. No woman's gonna tell us.
Speaker 4: What you can knop you.
Speaker 5: We're here.
Speaker 3: Just drinking beer and making nao. Baby, I'm hanging with
Speaker 3: the feelers, busting with the boys, bro.
Speaker 4: Rolling near the TV on.
Speaker 6: You're y trying to lock it.
Speaker 4: I got to, I got to and already brother too
Speaker 4: to Lucy's already in espresso or mango espresso. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not as big on the mango as i am
Speaker 4: the espresso.
Speaker 6: I love the expressed.
Speaker 4: I had the espresso, tell about noon, not tring to
Speaker 4: switch it out and find my flavor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, welcome to busting with the boys.
Speaker 4: We were having technical difficulties with our small TV.
Speaker 6: That's all right. Hey, people are uh, people were fired up.
Speaker 6: People are so happy that the intro's back.
Speaker 4: How do you feel?
Speaker 6: Oh, you know me, bring the old new intro back.
Speaker 4: I did see your comment on YouTube. Brother. The people
Speaker 4: have spoken. It is what it is, and it's I
Speaker 4: did say in the intro yesterday it's kind of a
Speaker 4: it's a slippery slope because.
Speaker 6: Then last week said in the intro last week, and
Speaker 6: what I said yesterday.
Speaker 4: So the intro, I've had a tough day of my
Speaker 4: days in a week lately. I walked into the shop
Speaker 4: yesterday and said, how was your weekend?
Speaker 6: Boys?
Speaker 4: And it was Wednesday. It's actually Thursday, It's actually no,
Speaker 4: yesterday was goddamn it. Yeah, But on the intro last week,
Speaker 4: I was saying basically like we've listened to you, we
Speaker 4: hear it. But it's a slippery slope because the minute
Speaker 4: you allow the chat to get you, they think they
Speaker 4: run you. And so we're we're in a fragile state
Speaker 4: right now, you and I are being manipulated by the masses.
Speaker 6: However, it was the right choice. I think we took
Speaker 6: our time. We took longer. Yeah, we we took our time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: oh absolutely, Like I've even I've even said that I
Speaker 6: like the uh, the one that we were trying to
Speaker 6: go for where you have kind of the cliffhanger because
Speaker 6: you watch like the Shannon Sharps and I get influenced
Speaker 6: by some of these other pods and look, you don't
Speaker 6: you know, you don't know until you try shit. You
Speaker 6: have to learning or as you know, we just got
Speaker 6: out voted upstairs. But look, democracy, democracy, if the people
Speaker 6: have spoken, the boys are speaking, It's like, hey, set
Speaker 6: your ego aside and just just roll with the fellas.
Speaker 4: Right, fifty stars, thirteen bars. Brother, these colors don't run.
Speaker 4: We live with democracy.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. If we would have reacted to the chat immediately,
Speaker 6: they would have the old intro back, like literally the
Speaker 6: week after.
Speaker 4: Right, and it wouldn't have set up this beautiful thing
Speaker 4: that people are listening to now. Yeah yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 4: able to sit down and enjoy themselves.
Speaker 6: Yeah. In the comments building, you get the you know,
Speaker 6: everybody chirping being upset.
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Speaker 6: They're going to think their internet is slow when you
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Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 4: We fixed the WiFi last week, unplugging the router just
Speaker 4: because of me. Yeah.
Speaker 6: We went on Dale Junior last week. Everybody who's who's
Speaker 6: a fan of Dale and Herd Junior, which I think
Speaker 6: that is everybody in the world, every single human being there.
Speaker 6: The boys went on the Dale Junior download and we
Speaker 6: had a two and a half hour podcast. They said
Speaker 6: that was the longest one in the last two years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was And it was such a good time too,
Speaker 4: because I mean, we've been on other people's podcast before
Speaker 4: and it's like you did Two Bears, Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 4: day before that.
Speaker 6: It's a pretty strict hour, yeah and a long.
Speaker 4: You're kind of sitting there, but everyone's kind of bouncing
Speaker 4: off each other the whole time. Dale really took the
Speaker 4: time to get to know the boys. Yeah, find the
Speaker 4: level of nostalgia when we played against each other in
Speaker 4: two thousand, was at nineteen, yeah, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: playing against each other at the start of the podcast,
Speaker 4: Dale giving you your flowers on Twitter, calling me the
Speaker 4: common man. Like it was overall, it was a great experience.
Speaker 4: What's really cool to me is like you guys' relationship,
Speaker 4: the way you guys talked about that because you guys
Speaker 4: were you were obviously with the Redskins, the team formerly
Speaker 4: known as the Redskins, and he's a fan of that team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you guys just get together. You're doing the
Speaker 4: dog the Dog thing on Snapchat. You're just having a
Speaker 4: good time with Dale, and I was just it was
Speaker 4: just kind of cool to see the two bros bro out.
Speaker 6: Dude, because I was telling you afterwards, like it is
Speaker 6: insane to me because.
Speaker 4: Like we you grew up it's like, oh, you know, our.
Speaker 6: Dreams of like playing professional football, and then like growing
Speaker 6: up in bon terr you got it's w W and
Speaker 6: NASCAR fans. Right, I wasn't the biggest NASCAR fan, but
Speaker 6: you you don't need to be a fan of NASCAR
Speaker 6: to know who Dale or Heart Junior is. And yeah,
Speaker 6: how that all came about. I'm still just thinking, like,
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the most humble cat, the humble celebrity
Speaker 6: maybe that we've ever met. There's so many.
Speaker 4: There's only a few people out there that you meet
Speaker 4: that are famous that don't know that they're famous. And
Speaker 4: he's absolutely one of them. Like SA One's one, Pat
Speaker 4: Mahomes is one. But then Dale is like me one
Speaker 4: when you meet him, what a top three round? He
Speaker 4: just thinks he's a regular guy. He's just a regular
Speaker 4: fucking guy out there. When I was a kid, we
Speaker 4: used to go to the p I R all the time,
Speaker 4: the Phoenix International Sway with my grandfather. Rip Boy passed
Speaker 4: away about a week ago, and uh.
Speaker 6: To have a moment of silence for Grandpa motorcycle. Yeah
Speaker 6: for your grandpa.
Speaker 4: All right, God damn put on disturb Oh that was
Speaker 4: your phone shout out Grandpa motorcycle and he would always
Speaker 4: take us there and he was a big Ford guy
Speaker 4: and he would always talk about the Ford Racers and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. But even Dale being in a Chevy
Speaker 4: like you used to always tip the cap to him
Speaker 4: and he would be like, that's that guy's the man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: tell me about his dad and all these different things.
Speaker 4: It was just like cool being there as a kid
Speaker 4: and growing up and being like, yo, Dale, we're just
Speaker 4: hanging out with Dale.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and what was that? What was the car that
Speaker 6: they had sitting in front of the podcast.
Speaker 4: His dad's car that his dad actually raced, the real one, right,
Speaker 4: it was a real one. Yeah.
Speaker 7: He did twenty seven races in it, one eight of them.
Speaker 4: That is incredible and it's wild too, Like one of
Speaker 4: the guys was telling us that Dale doesn't have a
Speaker 4: lot of his dad's memorabiliy, and so he actually found
Speaker 4: that at the Barrett Jackson and was able to outbid
Speaker 4: whoever it was to go get it.
Speaker 6: That's crazy that he does basically have to fight to
Speaker 6: get the memorabilia, which is why does he have all
Speaker 6: the get all the memorabilia.
Speaker 4: I don't know the show, but they kind of they
Speaker 4: they kind of explained it to us a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you're in that family, well, Dale's
Speaker 6: like the air, so you would just assume that the
Speaker 6: that his son, yeah, should get whatever he wants, right.
Speaker 4: And just like following in his dad's footsteps and all that.
Speaker 4: And even when he was on the bus before talking
Speaker 4: about like how his dad was just a guy like you,
Speaker 4: respected and also feared like he did something. He did
Speaker 4: something in the house one day and he ran and
Speaker 4: like hid behind like hey until like the nighttime.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like that, yeah, across the street or something, and
Speaker 6: laid there until he thought it was safe to go
Speaker 6: back in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, laid down on the ground until nightfall.
Speaker 6: I meant to bring that up when we were chopping
Speaker 6: it up afterwards and talking kind of dad stuff.
Speaker 4: Where the graduations that you guys had with your daughters.
Speaker 6: And then he was almost like us, we're talking about
Speaker 6: how having girls and you're like, oh, I'm gonna have
Speaker 6: a third one, like the way periods are syncd up,
Speaker 6: our balls are synked up.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna have a girl because I'm having one.
Speaker 6: And then he's like, I don't know, he doesn't didn't
Speaker 6: necessarily want a son because he felt like he would
Speaker 6: be way too hard on him, and I meant to
Speaker 6: bring up that, like, hey, man, what do you think
Speaker 6: you're gonna scare him so bad? You're gonna he's gonna
Speaker 6: take off, running out of the house and go hiding
Speaker 6: a ditch across the street.
Speaker 4: I just don't see Dale being a like a hardcore dad,
Speaker 4: like over the top.
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't see that any stad.
Speaker 4: He's just kind of the man.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I know he's got that killer instinct in him for sure.
Speaker 6: Question you know he you know, they got the core values.
Speaker 6: He has the foundation at home, but the way he
Speaker 6: carries himself, it's like, brother, you'd be a phenomenal boy.
Speaker 4: Dat dad, he'd be a great boy.
Speaker 1: Dad.
Speaker 5: Hey, but how about the culture around it. When we
Speaker 5: pulled up, people waiting outside.
Speaker 4: Dude, people BUCkies, Dale are heart shot. That's what we
Speaker 4: pulled up, and there were some good old boys just
Speaker 4: kind of hanging out. One guy called his brother man
Speaker 4: what seven times yeah and four sentences.
Speaker 6: One thought so comfortable and say, hey, you got an
Speaker 6: extra hat that you can give.
Speaker 4: That's the same brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I just went to the truck. I was like, I
Speaker 6: think I have.
Speaker 4: One here, We'll just starts walking away. JPU and I
Speaker 4: are just hanging out. Will just walks away and comes back.
Speaker 4: But literally, there was like what a dozen people just
Speaker 4: waiting outside more than that, just to meet Dale, just
Speaker 4: to shake his hand and say hey, you're the man.
Speaker 6: Every day he does the podcast. They're out there every Tuesday.
Speaker 6: There are people out there. They said it was a
Speaker 6: little bit bigger because it was race week and everything.
Speaker 6: But we pulled up. We were pulling up to do
Speaker 6: our podcast. He's already in the middle of doing another one,
Speaker 6: so we have to wait for that one to get
Speaker 6: done and our two and a half hours goes in
Speaker 6: our podcast, we do the tour and everything else. He's
Speaker 6: still he hasn't like walked out there yet, but people
Speaker 6: got there so early. There's probably thirty to forty people
Speaker 6: just sitting outside of JR Junior Motorsports.
Speaker 4: There was a little girl from London. There was a family,
Speaker 4: it's a seven year old from Britain just waiting.
Speaker 6: It was nuts Bro see him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go see Dale. This is wild man.
Speaker 6: They're waiting out there for hours. Bro basically tailgating just
Speaker 6: for him to come outside after he does podcasting. To sign,
Speaker 6: to sign autographs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a man dude, which Taylor and I were
Speaker 5: texting as we are. It seems like we're hiring a
Speaker 5: couple of new people. We might need to throw Dale
Speaker 5: and offer to either be like the dad, the uncle
Speaker 5: or the granddad of.
Speaker 6: The pod, just a true ambassador, or bust them with
Speaker 6: the boys. He's uncle Dale.
Speaker 5: What's so we could just go to Yeah, like, you know,
Speaker 5: if we need to let something off our chest, we have.
Speaker 6: Dale call in, right, have them call in, Like we
Speaker 6: got some questions. Yeah, your advice, we need your mentorship. Dude.
Speaker 4: It feels like Dale doesn't. I don't say this in
Speaker 4: like a disrespectful I mean it in like a really
Speaker 4: cool way. It seems like he just doesn't care about
Speaker 4: much other than like his family and like cars, and
Speaker 4: people are just like, hey, you should open up a restaurant.
Speaker 4: He has a restaurant in the airport. Hey you should
Speaker 4: do a podcast? All right, yeah, I'll I'll do it.
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was pretty funny that we're going
Speaker 6: to I didn't know it at the time, but as
Speaker 6: we're walking to basically another terminal to go eat at
Speaker 6: his restaurant, I'm thinking we're really committed to supporting Dale.
Speaker 6: One of his many ventures that he's doing.
Speaker 4: Literally the farthest restaurant away from our Sea Gate concourse
Speaker 4: trying out Charlotte Airport, by the way mass chaos, one
Speaker 4: of the most confusing the airports I've ever been in.
Speaker 4: Mind Tower. I got lost three times because I flew
Speaker 4: him fro nashvilley' all flew him from Austin and it
Speaker 4: was a bit of a deal just trying to find
Speaker 4: the rental car area.
Speaker 6: People are just sprinting around everywhere. It was pretty care.
Speaker 4: Everyone's in a hurry. Yeah that flight home boys. Let
Speaker 4: me tell you something those of you listen who have
Speaker 4: listened to this podcast for the last five years.
Speaker 6: Grumpy Dad segment.
Speaker 4: Will Compton has officially become the grumpy guy of the group.
Speaker 6: Dude. He is standing in the middle.
Speaker 4: Of the walkway well while me and GP are kind
Speaker 4: of tucked back, so there's like lanes. Some lady literally
Speaker 4: hit was like pushing somebody in a wheelchair, hits Will
Speaker 4: and as she's connecting with Will's shoulder, go excuse me
Speaker 4: and bumps him and we had a deep plane. Will's
Speaker 4: like just put the fucker down the ground like essentially.
Speaker 6: Time out, grumpy, grumpy, But that situation you just explained,
Speaker 6: I'm not in the middle. I'm standing there talking with you.
Speaker 7: You're right your leer, Yeah, you're right center.
Speaker 4: Yeah you're in the right.
Speaker 6: Yeah I'm right center. But like, say, hey, on your left,
Speaker 6: on your left, like to what you were saying. And
Speaker 6: I didn't react to or say anything. I just kind
Speaker 6: of turned and I'm just thinking, what the fuck just
Speaker 6: had O.
Speaker 7: Hey, you looked you play middle linebacker.
Speaker 5: I imagine that's the look you gave a quarterback or
Speaker 5: running back when they were walking away from us.
Speaker 6: Locked in because that shoe was crazy. They they hit
Speaker 6: me and then excuse me.
Speaker 4: There is there's an epidemic going around in airports where
Speaker 4: people are getting too comfortable, like you, it's not your home.
Speaker 6: You need to go.
Speaker 4: You need to understand this is America. You stay on
Speaker 4: the right side of the way when you're walking one way.
Speaker 4: You let people get around. If someone's hurrying, you give
Speaker 4: them the right away because obviously they're in a bigger
Speaker 4: rush than you. But people are getting a little too
Speaker 4: comfortable with the bumping, with the hanging out people.
Speaker 6: With I know this is a slippery slope, so we
Speaker 6: can just I know there's not going to be a
Speaker 6: lot of reaction or comment even afterwards, but a lot
Speaker 6: of comfortability as well with taking advantage of getting pushed
Speaker 6: around the airport, like people in scooters people and deserve it,
Speaker 6: and look, I'm all people getting pushed pushed. Yeah, Like
Speaker 6: there are some people that you know in your mind
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, fucking I walk to your goddamners. And
Speaker 6: if you are somebody that is needs service, extra service,
Speaker 6: like I'm assuming you're getting to the airport way earlier
Speaker 6: than everybody else to where you shouldn't be in a
Speaker 6: hurry like that, just getting pushed around by somebody pissed
Speaker 6: off doing their job and they're mad doing the service job.
Speaker 6: It's like, if you're in that kind of industry, you
Speaker 6: should kind of have a little bit of a enthusiasm
Speaker 6: about you, you know what I mean, because you're you're
Speaker 6: like wanting to help people, right, Yes, So the person
Speaker 6: that's like shoving this, that like shoved by me, it
Speaker 6: was like, oh, excuse me. It's just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of flare that happened in that particular moment,
Speaker 6: but I didn't say anything but I was pissed that.
Speaker 6: We we get on the plane number one, we're already delayed,
Speaker 6: what forty minutes? Delayed forty minutes. Then we get on
Speaker 6: the plate and sit down and we're chilling for a
Speaker 6: minute before somebody come well literally sitting there for an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and then somebody comes on. It's like, oh, they got
Speaker 6: to check the break. They're checking the brakes. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: something's kind of going on with the breaks. It should
Speaker 6: be quick, like we're not. I'm making the decision and
Speaker 6: not be doing to not deboard because if we do that,
Speaker 6: then we'd have to change the whole break, and I
Speaker 6: don't think we have to do that. So then we're
Speaker 6: chilling there for another little minute. Yeah, and then it's
Speaker 6: the next thing I know, we're deboarding the plane. And
Speaker 6: here here's here's where grumpy Will comes in.
Speaker 4: Bro. But can I just say, Like when I got
Speaker 4: off the plane, Will Will is like facing the wall.
Speaker 4: He's like on the phone. So I'm not kind of
Speaker 4: doing something. I'm walking around grabbing the water or whatever.
Speaker 4: Ye Will turn Will gets out the phone. You turn
Speaker 4: around and go, bro, what the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, what are we doing? Like you're you're essentially
Speaker 4: you're a caaring right now. You're you're starting this small
Speaker 4: little piece of being a care on my brother. We're
Speaker 4: they're just trying to keep us safe, like it is
Speaker 4: what it is like, we can't do nothing about us.
Speaker 4: Put the fucking plane down. Who cares?
Speaker 6: Get me back to Nashville, he said, Bro, are these
Speaker 6: safety they're checking the break And I'm like, hey, fucking
Speaker 6: kill but like, let us go down, Die young, die hero.
Speaker 4: And then will your whole entire thing, your whole thing
Speaker 4: about wanting to get home so earlier because you've got
Speaker 4: something for rue, You've got that, and you're like, I
Speaker 4: want to make sure I give this through before she
Speaker 4: goes to sleep, Which is fine. But we go sit
Speaker 4: down and we're hanging out. JP. You take the hilarious
Speaker 4: the fat ball picture of us. We're chilling. Some guy
Speaker 4: comes up talk to us. We get up to go
Speaker 4: to the gate because we realize, hey, we're bored. We
Speaker 4: might miss the flight.
Speaker 6: We might be missing the flight, and Will walks.
Speaker 4: Away without the bag, walks with the back and JP's like,
Speaker 4: look at this man, He points at the bag. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he goes and then you look, you look back at JP.
Speaker 4: JP goes, all, I'll meet you guys, I say to
Speaker 4: Will while we're walking without you, JP, I go, and
Speaker 4: what do you think he's doing over there? Knowing you're
Speaker 4: just getting the back. He goes, he's probably got to
Speaker 4: pack some stuff up or whatever. Yea, I go, Hey,
Speaker 4: I hope he didn't forget anything, and Will just keeps walking.
Speaker 4: Where did the gate goes?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Fuck? I go, hey, JP's grabbing it. Man handle yourself.
Speaker 4: And then he shipped the bag and then he, uh,
Speaker 4: we're your wallet at the hotel.
Speaker 7: Well wallet at the hotel. And Will almost took the
Speaker 7: rental car keys home with him.
Speaker 6: Watches he watches busting. So he comes running and you
Speaker 6: use here in the distance. Will, He's like, hey, you
Speaker 6: got the keys on you and I'm just thinking.
Speaker 7: He said, no, they're on the dash. I don't think
Speaker 7: they are in hell.
Speaker 6: When he said that too, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 6: hang on, I unziped my bag and just see him
Speaker 6: sitting on top there. But yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: The in every city we go to the rental cors
Speaker 2: employees and know our pot because that's no but it's
Speaker 2: literally every rental cars employee in any city we come
Speaker 2: to like, dude, love the show, blah blah blah, even
Speaker 2: when you guys aren't even with us. And now is
Speaker 2: there like some secret union of rental cars workers and
Speaker 2: they're like at the like day one, they're like, you
Speaker 2: gotta start watching Busting with the boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah. When we flew into Charlotte, we went to go
Speaker 4: to get the rental car and some guy slip back
Speaker 4: here and ice cat you could see a ten in
Speaker 4: his back pocket. I go, I knew exactly what it was, like,
Speaker 4: what is that this brand in your back pocket? Goes Yes,
Speaker 4: the brand. We do not say the brand, the Boltimore brand.
Speaker 4: We essentially are like, you need to do loocy ball ball.
Speaker 4: We give him two cans. Oh yeah, yeah, which I
Speaker 4: think you're not allowed to do it, but we did.
Speaker 4: We checked his idea and everything well, right, we checked
Speaker 4: his idea, checked his I he's over to he's over
Speaker 4: one thing about airports.
Speaker 6: I do want to say the grumpiness was fully due
Speaker 6: to we're supposed to land in Nashville. Four p thirty JP.
Speaker 6: And I was on South Congres Street in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 6: shopping at was it love something? I don't know? I
Speaker 6: got rude this dress by the way, way too expensive
Speaker 6: of his dress that I didn't even realize until I
Speaker 6: was checking out, And yeah, I wanted re knew dead
Speaker 6: I was coming home. I wanted to give her the dress.
Speaker 6: I wanted to see her face. And then obviously you
Speaker 6: got bedtime and everything else that. You know, that's like
Speaker 6: a lucky thing that I didn't necessarily have to do.
Speaker 6: That I would have had to do that night, but
Speaker 6: I did want to give her the dress, and I
Speaker 6: knew she would be stoked. So when we're getting delayed
Speaker 6: beyond the wind of like I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 6: wait to give it to you tomorrow, that's that's where
Speaker 6: the grumpiness was truly festering. And the minute we got
Speaker 6: beyond like six fifty six forty five, now we're taking
Speaker 6: off at seven thirty, it's like, oh, it's already, We're
Speaker 6: already beyond it.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you something?
Speaker 6: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Obviously, that's why you're grumpy, Like you didn't have to
Speaker 4: explain any of that. We just told the whole We
Speaker 4: just told that entire story.
Speaker 6: I know, but I didn't want that to go missing
Speaker 6: due to all the grumpy stories that we were singing
Speaker 6: in between. But you have guys.
Speaker 4: As you got older, you become a grumpy boy. You're
Speaker 4: a grumpier guy. Now when do I get grumpy? Right now?
Speaker 7: When you're forced to go outside?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, bro, Yes, Will is an indoor cat. No, he
Speaker 4: just wants to sit at home and watch his show.
Speaker 6: When else was I grumpy on that tree?
Speaker 4: You're like the dad from a Wolf of Wall Street,
Speaker 4: the answers of the British accent when he's watching his
Speaker 4: show and he gets all mad and he grabs the phone. Hello,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, how are you doing? That's you?
Speaker 6: When else?
Speaker 4: What are we doing out here?
Speaker 6: When else was our grumpy on the trip?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 5: When we're walking Uh, I don't know if we were
Speaker 5: in Austin, Orna or Austin or Charlotte, but we're walking
Speaker 5: across the crosswalk and the guy was letting traffic come through,
Speaker 5: and we're standing there for a.
Speaker 7: Cool ten seconds and Wills, because this guy not see.
Speaker 4: Us, he's really turning into that. That is tough. No,
Speaker 4: I Will say the whole there is, and I know
Speaker 4: we're just take it a step further with the whole,
Speaker 4: like getting pushed in a car thing. I was checking
Speaker 4: a bag this past Friday, to get on a flight,
Speaker 4: and I see a heavier set gentleman standing up. He's
Speaker 4: a super tall guy. He stands up, he walks to
Speaker 4: the counter, he checks his bag, lifts it up himself,
Speaker 4: and they start talking for a while. And I'm kind
Speaker 4: of just waiting in line, waiting to put my back up,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, wheelchair comes out of nowhere
Speaker 4: and he sits down, like not struggling to sit down,
Speaker 4: and sits down the chair. They wheel him off. I'm
Speaker 4: telling you, bro, the preboarding, the preboarding up airports is
Speaker 4: getting out of hand. Yeah, especially Southwest because Southwest everyone's
Speaker 4: got their seating all the other airlines. But when we
Speaker 4: do preboard, it's like thirty people get on the plane.
Speaker 6: And then they got to sit in the front, and
Speaker 6: so they take all the front seats, all the front.
Speaker 6: Because if you're just doing carry on, that front row
Speaker 6: is nice because you're like an hour flay. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: don't have a checked bag, you're just yeah, you're in
Speaker 6: and out. Bro. But these dudes, it is like thirty
Speaker 6: people in pre board that are just fucking what do
Speaker 6: we fucking you?
Speaker 4: Plump up, you're like a three and you get on
Speaker 4: there you're the twentieth person on the plane.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, one other thing about airports.
Speaker 6: Then these boys are on me about tipping and nothing
Speaker 6: even happening tipping wise.
Speaker 7: Hey, nobody brought that up.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I was actually saying, I agree with your tipping strategy.
Speaker 6: Okay, because there was a you you that was part
Speaker 6: of the grumpiness that you're like Will also with tipping.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, man, I don't even think.
Speaker 4: It's that big of a I used to be a
Speaker 4: big tipper and I've gotten to like I'm a standard
Speaker 4: twenty percent guy unlesson he goes above and beyond on
Speaker 4: my head at twenty five. But Will Lily has it
Speaker 4: you have an evaluation process.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not like that strict. I'm just thinking,
Speaker 6: if you're doing bad at your job of service, you
Speaker 6: are going to get hit with that. You gotta affect
Speaker 6: their pockets. Bro.
Speaker 4: We can have a grumpy podcast today because you bring
Speaker 4: up tipping. And it's getting fucking out of hand too.
Speaker 4: When they spin that little iPad on you and it
Speaker 4: hits in that little that little lazy susan rip around
Speaker 4: and it says fucking twenty twenty five thirty. It is
Speaker 4: insane that is like, the lowest tip you can do
Speaker 4: is twenty percent. You go get thank you COVID. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 4: that's when that started. The tipping is getting nuts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting out of hand with star like places
Speaker 6: like Starbucks. And he's like, you know, I'm just calling
Speaker 6: them mainstream spots, like the big dog spots that have
Speaker 6: places absolutely everywhere, Starbucks being one. McDonald's like they're flipping
Speaker 6: around and you're seeing tips on there now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you go, I'll get McDonald's.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that was just one that can. I never
Speaker 6: like to disrespect McDonald's, but yeah, like the Starbucks and stuff.
Speaker 4: McDonald's got a cult behind them.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: There is a war of just soldiers of the two
Speaker 4: arches that are ready to go at any point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, your boy. I used to love McDonald's.
Speaker 4: But when I get going into a coffee shop and
Speaker 4: I say I'll take an ice black coffee, and before
Speaker 4: I even am done paying the bill, it's sitting there
Speaker 4: because all they did was put ice and coffee in
Speaker 4: a cup, and it flips around me and the lowest
Speaker 4: thing I can do is twenty percent.
Speaker 6: We're what I have not added to my bag, which
Speaker 6: I do need to is again. You want to do
Speaker 6: it in as less steps as possible because we're all
Speaker 6: lazy human beings. But we need to hit custom and
Speaker 6: put it in a custom tip.
Speaker 5: No, what we need is a debit card that looks
Speaker 5: like a reverse UNO card and hand it to them.
Speaker 5: There's your solution, Oh babe me, that is funny mansus
Speaker 5: out of nowhere or reverse UNO card.
Speaker 4: Welcome to bus with the Boys. Twenty two minutes of bitching.
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Speaker 4: Should we gain U some segments boys shout out if
Speaker 4: you shot I'm down.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, not that one, because that's a that's a
Speaker 6: sponsored segment. We don't want to we don't want to
Speaker 6: a sponsor sponsor on them. We love everybody that I
Speaker 6: was watching because we get to have all these sponsorships.
Speaker 6: But right, uh ab bankrupt? You saw that?
Speaker 4: Just another stat man thirty thirty?
Speaker 6: Yeah, what he's a mass like eighty eight million dollars
Speaker 6: in his career, and apparently there's a claim out there
Speaker 6: that he has less than fifty thousand in total assets.
Speaker 6: Now that could be fugazi fugazy, who knows, but apparently
Speaker 6: he has went bankrupt.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But there was like a video that came out a
Speaker 4: few years ago of him and that's an all White
Speaker 4: house and he's like this sixty million dollars paid in full.
Speaker 6: Paid for. But he's also got that reputation of essentially
Speaker 6: not paying anybody that has worked for him, because he's
Speaker 6: been he's.
Speaker 4: Gotten sued by like a few different people.
Speaker 6: I believe yeh and ab if you're if you're listening
Speaker 6: to this clip or watching the podcast, you're more welcome
Speaker 6: to come on the bus. Yeah no quote you on
Speaker 6: the bus? Yes es yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that
Speaker 6: is an active account that's ran a by somebody else.
Speaker 6: I saw Billy Football challenging him to a Rough and
Speaker 6: Rowdy So like, hey, if you are bankrupt, if you
Speaker 6: don't have any money, you can make some good cash
Speaker 6: at Rough and Rowdy. I will fight you, I'll box you.
Speaker 6: Jose Canseeko made a cool three million dollars. Think about it.
Speaker 4: Can I say something, Yeah, AB body bags Batman if
Speaker 4: there's a boxing match.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you'd assume so. But I love the
Speaker 6: strategy here of Billy football. Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like he's great, he's grinding, trying to find his way.
Speaker 6: He's always trying to find his you know, pieces of
Speaker 6: content that he can make. And the man has no
Speaker 6: fear calling anybody out to get in the boxing ring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which you gotta respect. Gotta respect that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, assets you look at that photo scoll
Speaker 4: up a little bit Jackie good one for a reference
Speaker 4: piece when we're on the YouTube, and you can look
Speaker 4: at it right now as mtch just putting it in there.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of assets just on his body. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a couple hundred thousand at least. Yeah, and he knows
Speaker 4: what they're paid for.
Speaker 2: It says he is three million dollars to eight different
Speaker 2: creditors and then one includes a one point two million
Speaker 2: dollar lawsuit against a truck driver that I guess AB
Speaker 2: failed to appear in court, So one point two million
Speaker 2: and some court dispute, and then the remaining are.
Speaker 4: Just a creditors.
Speaker 2: So he's been charging their credit card.
Speaker 4: I hate to see it. Damn yeah, more now than ever.
Speaker 4: Imagine if a b is went't that brought up to
Speaker 4: the court reverse, It's like, damn, case is closed.
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to make Cracker of the Day for him.
Speaker 4: You could easily make that.
Speaker 6: Hopefully he's got Cracker the day. Yes, every now and
Speaker 6: then you see, uh, whoever post on his account, they
Speaker 6: make Cracker the day.
Speaker 4: You haven't seen that, No, I ain't seen that.
Speaker 6: We'll eat you on the internet. Got Hey, I'm just
Speaker 6: thinking about Dale's cou.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: And it was one of those things where it didn't
Speaker 4: mean to be a shot, but obviously the world we
Speaker 4: live in, that's an obvious shot. Yeah, And I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you do crush social media.
Speaker 6: Brother. We're sitting there and he's like giving me flowers
Speaker 6: and I'm sitting there, you know, accepting the compliments. But
Speaker 6: just in my brain, I'm thinking JP's getting here, this
Speaker 6: Taylor sitting here hearing this, and then he's like and
Speaker 6: then he says the Taylor comment. It just all it
Speaker 6: like all comes and you look over at JP and
Speaker 6: he starts like just losing.
Speaker 4: He's laying on the couch laughing, like you know when
Speaker 4: that JP laying down, kicking his legs up and down
Speaker 4: like a child too excited crack of the day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if he does it every day.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did, Luca yesterday?
Speaker 6: Did he or scrolling through AB's timeline right now, just
Speaker 6: saw uh did he's apology?
Speaker 4: Oh here's an apology out there? Yeah? I mean I
Speaker 4: thought he just dipped to Spain or something.
Speaker 2: It's over for that man, it's over for he can
Speaker 2: illgally apologize all of it. He couldn't legally mention Cassie's
Speaker 2: name in the apology. That's how bad it is. Legally.
Speaker 4: He can't even say her own name.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, did you see the video in the hotel
Speaker 4: room in the hotel elevator area. Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 4: writes the ship out of that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, bro, Like you never want to throw this term
Speaker 6: around loosely and lightly, but I hope he gets raped
Speaker 6: in prison. You just those are the those are the
Speaker 6: ones that you know in every every capter, like everybody
Speaker 6: who's this just and rages, which is the majority of people,
Speaker 6: Like that is what is being said between every friend group.
Speaker 6: It's like you want him to have the absolute worst,
Speaker 6: most misery.
Speaker 4: No one's saying that on camera, but everyone's saying that
Speaker 4: off camera. You're just saying it on camera. Correct, You're
Speaker 4: just saying what everybody else is thinking.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 4: Remember the movie Get Him to the Greek. Well, he's
Speaker 4: Lily sitting at Jonahill being like, mind fucking you right now?
Speaker 6: I know, I hope you were in a condom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because think about getting sucks. Isn't that crazy? That
Speaker 4: movie is so good too? And he's a good character
Speaker 4: in that movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if you could say he's a
Speaker 6: good character. He's a pretty bad human being.
Speaker 4: He's a bad.
Speaker 6: I don't know, bro, I don't think you can. You
Speaker 6: think he's a great actor.
Speaker 4: He's talented, Like, whoaa, he's got some bad ship going on.
Speaker 4: He was he was good in that movie. And I'll
Speaker 4: say that, I don't know. He was good in that movie. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm not defending Diddy supporting No, I'm not what. He's
Speaker 4: good in that movie. So you're supporting him. You think
Speaker 4: he's gonna go and get another movie now because I
Speaker 4: just said that, So it's like, oh, fun, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what, Taylor's right, he was good in that movie.
Speaker 4: Let's let's cast him for that role even.
Speaker 6: I think if you end up in a movie one day,
Speaker 6: our intenna has to go up.
Speaker 4: Now get that, brother, it's coming up.
Speaker 6: What circles have you been talking to?
Speaker 4: Listen, we're not going on the st Tell you.
Speaker 6: Guys to get superuncmfortable. Let me get out of here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with will.
Speaker 6: Oh Father's Day merch is out. We do have some
Speaker 6: a pivot. The flopp the floppy girl dad dad hats.
Speaker 6: Those are in stock now, those are in the store. Look,
Speaker 6: our Father's Day merch absolutely goes so fucking hard.
Speaker 4: It does, it really does. And let me know what
Speaker 4: kind of hat guy you are. Because the floppy hats,
Speaker 4: I know people are gonna buy the hats they like
Speaker 4: the flopp hats. It doesn't fit my head the right way. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't like those hats. But the deeper sitting hats,
Speaker 4: like the hat you're wearing right now, or wear those
Speaker 4: bad boys all day. It's kind of like a line
Speaker 4: in the sand. Not a lot of people can are
Speaker 4: diverse enough to handle both hats.
Speaker 2: What hat guy are you do you mean like the
Speaker 2: actual like dad hats, the.
Speaker 4: Actual dad like the harder part at the front where
Speaker 4: it kind of stands up on his own, and then
Speaker 4: there's like the more shallow hat that kind of you
Speaker 4: hold it up and it kind of like it indents itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not a dad hat.
Speaker 8: Guy.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm a bust with the boys dead haad guy.
Speaker 4: When they're a little stronger up top, they're more erect.
Speaker 2: You know what else we have out with the recent
Speaker 2: episode with Coach Callahan and our episode's coming out is
Speaker 2: our beautiful run left hats.
Speaker 4: That is true, the return jayse Latham.
Speaker 6: We running left this year.
Speaker 4: We're running left this year.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 4: I mean, you got jac Latham, you got Peter Skronski,
Speaker 4: two young cats in their early twenties holding on that
Speaker 4: left side for probably the next ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Did you see that photo of Skronsky that came out
Speaker 2: like two days ago. No, he's added like ten pounds
Speaker 2: of muscle and cut some and show looks like a
Speaker 2: bee's showing.
Speaker 4: I gotta find and give me a second.
Speaker 6: Dude, don't bring on the screen because that type of
Speaker 6: shit is where I get excited. Please don't put on
Speaker 6: the screen.
Speaker 4: That don't put on the screen, will will get hard.
Speaker 6: Nobody had the blood starts flowing below the belt. When
Speaker 6: a football guy is just like, oh he puts on
Speaker 6: ten pounds of muscle, he's cutting some fat. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: start to the top, starts to get a little heavier,
Speaker 6: You start to get.
Speaker 4: That v and yeah, God, have those pants right now
Speaker 4: a little tighter?
Speaker 6: Yeah, thankfully they're cutting off the blood for a little bit.
Speaker 4: Dude, Scronsky, though had a decent had a decent rookie year,
Speaker 4: missed a couple of games because of appendicitis or some
Speaker 4: shit like that, like war daddy type shit. He missed games.
Speaker 4: Four kids, a stud kids, a stunt. I think he's
Speaker 4: gonna do really well. Love the fact that he's rocking
Speaker 4: the sevens. Love the fact that he DM me and
Speaker 4: asked if he could of the sevens as if like
Speaker 4: he's had any say.
Speaker 6: He's a pro at all. Yeah, that's respect, that's a
Speaker 6: sign of respect.
Speaker 4: And then Latham literally has trench King tattooed on his body.
Speaker 4: I mean, that is not a tattoo I would get,
Speaker 4: but ship, I fuck with that mentality.
Speaker 6: JP, who's the NBA guy rocking our dad hat? Mike
Speaker 6: Conley saw him rocking the dead had Niles Paul, former
Speaker 6: teammate of mine, played in the league quite a while.
Speaker 6: He just had a girl. He was repping the girl
Speaker 6: that hat you just you love to see, you love
Speaker 6: to see it.
Speaker 4: I pulled up that clip that's were on Davenport real quick,
Speaker 4: Jacon Latham. If you're watching this, Wenna put you on
Speaker 4: game real quick. Brother, well club the clip that's right there.
Speaker 4: Oh right here, Yeah, go back to the beginning, j C.
Speaker 4: Listen up, brother, One thing right now in the film,
Speaker 4: right now, if you're running a outside zone, which I'm
Speaker 4: assuming that's what it looks like, you're stepping with your
Speaker 4: inside foot, though I wouldn't do that. You want to
Speaker 4: step outside foot, and then you're throwing both your hands
Speaker 4: on the outside shoulder. You did that, you're gonna be
Speaker 4: able to turn the guy's shoulder and allow the guard
Speaker 4: to overtake that, making a whole much faster to get
Speaker 4: up to the linebacker. It's gonna help your angles a
Speaker 4: whole lot more getting up. That third step you take
Speaker 4: is gonna be the angle step you take to get
Speaker 4: to the linebacker at the pace you want. But if
Speaker 4: you turn the shoulders, you're making the read for the
Speaker 4: back and it's gonna make it put the linebacker in
Speaker 4: a really bad pitch where he can't dip and rip you.
Speaker 4: But if you're not running outside zone there I can
Speaker 4: go fuck myself. I'm just letting you know. You change
Speaker 4: those couple of things right there we are. We might
Speaker 4: have two two thousand yard runers this year.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one little technique. But dude, I'm I'm fired up.
Speaker 4: Show the video of a late Scronsky going down. I
Speaker 4: also I made a mistake.
Speaker 2: It was not Scaransky US Soil, it was our Voyd
Speaker 2: Dylan Raidens.
Speaker 4: Yes, pull up this photo. Let's get Dilly a little
Speaker 4: bit of love. On the On the show North Dakota
Speaker 4: State University. Guy comes in, humble cat, married to the
Speaker 4: love of his life, wonderful woman by the way, absolutely
Speaker 4: wonderful woman. Came had an a Cellen college. He gets
Speaker 4: an opportunity to start once I go down with a
Speaker 4: knee playing the Chargers. I'm at that game and the
Speaker 4: boy has a little buckle, gets an ACL He's had
Speaker 4: some bad luck in the league, but he has the want,
Speaker 4: he has the drive. He's a smart cat. He loves
Speaker 4: Bill Callahan like this, dude, this guy needs an op.
Speaker 4: I hope he finds his way On the starting five.
Speaker 4: I know he's playing a little guard for the boys. Now.
Speaker 4: He's like a strict guard only guy now, not his
Speaker 4: favorite thing he wants to do. He obviously wants to
Speaker 4: be a tackle. But brother just got a get.
Speaker 6: Heel Brandon, Sheriff, Hell, get it? How you live Brandon?
Speaker 6: Brandon from the outside move of the inside, be one
Speaker 6: of the most dominant guards in the league. Get paid
Speaker 6: a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Sheriff, Dude, Well, he's a top ten pick, top of
Speaker 4: fifteen pick.
Speaker 6: Yeah he was. He was a first rounder as well.
Speaker 4: And played left tackle at Iowa Kids. An absolute study,
Speaker 4: classic Iowa offensive lineman by the way.
Speaker 6: Classic.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just a corn fed boy who likes to
Speaker 4: get after it hunts. I see me some Dylan. Now,
Speaker 4: Dylan does like to do some CrossFit bullshit, which I'm
Speaker 4: not a huge fan of. But whatever I digress.
Speaker 6: Should we could do shout out? No free shoutout While
Speaker 6: he continues to find the Dylan nude. Maybe maybe you
Speaker 6: dreamed of putting on ten bounds of muscle.
Speaker 4: Dylan is a little war dad, Dude, I really like
Speaker 4: dealing a lot.
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Speaker 6: I've been getting my old man in there the face
Speaker 6: routine something like that. You just you're aging quick?
Speaker 4: How old is How old is Bill?
Speaker 6: I don't know, upper fifties maybe yeah.
Speaker 4: Upper fifties. I love the fact that you give him
Speaker 4: some Duke can a little bit of face wash on
Speaker 4: him a little bit once gets to the fifties, Like
Speaker 4: what we washing our faces for?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think it's important. Man. You gotta take
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Speaker 6: in your ear. Yeah. The females are starting to put
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little face routine goes a long way. I
Speaker 4: used to be a hot hot water, cold water guy.
Speaker 4: When I started going through puberty twelve thirteen years old,
Speaker 4: my dad like, you don't need soaps, nothing, hot water,
Speaker 4: cold water, brush your teeth. You're welcome.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And then the fellas, I feel like you're always
Speaker 6: on the lookout, Like they're like the three and one
Speaker 6: is a big Yeah, is a big asset in the
Speaker 6: bag for the guys, because guys just want to use
Speaker 6: as little as possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I like in my own head, if I'm like
Speaker 6: out of if I'm out of body wash and I
Speaker 6: still have shampoo left, like, I'll just shampoo my entire body.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I think because I'm thinking it's cleaning
Speaker 6: my hairs. I got hairs on my body, Like, Okay,
Speaker 6: if it's good for my head, then it's got to
Speaker 6: be good for my body.
Speaker 4: The hair and skin are different. I would suggest you
Speaker 4: look into that a little bit. But this is not much.
Speaker 4: That was the old days. That was the old way.
Speaker 4: Your skin does look nice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you can feel when you don't do the skin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a whole different vibe on the cheeks. Man,
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Speaker 4: at hygiene, so much better. Don't do that. Don't do
Speaker 4: what you're doing right now.
Speaker 6: Stop keep going. You got it.
Speaker 4: When you get into an NFL room were even a
Speaker 4: college offer room. Black guys do such a better job
Speaker 4: of cleaning their face every day, while white guys do
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Speaker 4: Black guys help the white guys get better, HIJI, So
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Speaker 1: Shout out.
Speaker 6: He all gotta stop, Jack shout out. No fore shadow
Speaker 6: is going to be the dealing redunds.
Speaker 2: My shodow really does got a dealing. Two years ago,
Speaker 2: I was a late filling for the beer Olympics. People
Speaker 2: forget I did compete. I should have won, but you
Speaker 2: guys cheated.
Speaker 4: But we'll talk about that later, you and Ruse.
Speaker 2: But my shoutout goes to my partner and him looking
Speaker 2: like a nice little piece of unit.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: You know that tattoo sleeves really come along and he's
Speaker 2: just looking a little agile, a little a shifty, a
Speaker 2: guy who's laterally quick.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see him.
Speaker 6: And looking at Trice, I'm just climbing the mountain.
Speaker 4: Brother, he's been on the mountain range. Dude hang out
Speaker 4: with horses, getting kicked in the back of his arm.
Speaker 4: He looks fantastic.
Speaker 6: Mitch, what is your shoutout? No free shadow of the week.
Speaker 4: That's not my shouting now for shadow, by the way,
Speaker 4: I think, but will this is my last thing I
Speaker 4: gonna say about Diddy. This is the last thing I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say about Diddy. Then we're gonna put it the
Speaker 4: last thing you guys. Ready, he was good and get
Speaker 4: him to the Greek Okay, he was. They gave and
Speaker 4: do a chant the right way. Go ahead, Mitch, one guy.
Speaker 6: Man always one guy O.
Speaker 4: Can't get right, get right even Mit said.
Speaker 1: Boom, Yeah, that's a straight shot.
Speaker 6: That's fair.
Speaker 4: That was going into the head shot.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, six a m all.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean my shadow shot out this week.
Speaker 8: It goes to when you had like a bar or
Speaker 8: something and there's live music and you just get mesmerized
Speaker 8: by people like ripping the guitar and like, I just
Speaker 8: wish I could do that, and then they go from
Speaker 8: one instant to the other and then they just are
Speaker 8: ripping with the same intensity. It's just I think that
Speaker 8: is just so cool. Like so if I go to
Speaker 8: like kid Rocks or something, I literally just stand there
Speaker 8: with a beer in my hand, just watching the guitar
Speaker 8: guy just going insane, can't say.
Speaker 6: Something JP with yours?
Speaker 4: Hold on. I do feel that that's a good shout,
Speaker 4: no fore shadows.
Speaker 8: I feel like there's just I mean, anything I say
Speaker 8: nowadays is just kind of okay, cool whatever.
Speaker 4: That's a good shoutout, no free shot. That's a quality shout,
Speaker 4: no free shutout. But I think you forget we're doing
Speaker 4: a show, and so when there's zero enthusiasm in your voice,
Speaker 4: it's hard to get behind literally anything you're saying. You
Speaker 4: literally just sound like somebody died. But you were telling
Speaker 4: me about somebody ripping an instrument. We're doing a show
Speaker 4: right now. Do you want to do it again? Do
Speaker 4: you shout it again?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 8: Hey? Uh?
Speaker 4: The last thing I'll say about Diddy. He was good
Speaker 4: at Get Him to the Green, Will did bad at
Speaker 4: Booth the man Mitch, you want to do your shadow
Speaker 4: no free shadowt.
Speaker 8: Yeah, my shoutow, new free shot out this week. This
Speaker 8: happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was
Speaker 8: at a bar and we were sitting up top and
Speaker 8: they were the live music there, which just absolutely insane,
Speaker 8: and I personally just get mesmerized by people who can
Speaker 8: just rip instruments, and I think it's so cool because
Speaker 8: I know that I can't do it.
Speaker 1: And then when they're.
Speaker 8: Just like just strumming along or just playing the piano
Speaker 8: or whatever they're playing and just with with ease, and
Speaker 8: they just make it look so cool. Like I'll just
Speaker 8: stand there in a bar and just stare at the
Speaker 8: guitar player like I'm just like I don't know, just
Speaker 8: giving them like fuck me eyes or something because I
Speaker 8: think it is so cool.
Speaker 1: But that is my shotow, no free shout.
Speaker 4: Out better JP, jeezus, you're staring at him with fuck
Speaker 4: me eyes.
Speaker 5: My shout out, no free shout out. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 5: you who it doesn't go to. It doesn't go to
Speaker 5: the people that put their backpacks above the bins on
Speaker 5: the airplanes, because I think that is the thing that's
Speaker 5: holding up the boarding process is people there's no there's
Speaker 5: no storage, so then people have to check their bags
Speaker 5: at the gate. And then I walk down the aisle
Speaker 5: and look up in these bins and I see people's
Speaker 5: tiny backpacks taking up space. So it just it really
Speaker 5: bothers me. And it's not I'm not shouting anybody out.
Speaker 5: I'm let you know who I'm not shouting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to say who you're talking about?
Speaker 7: What do you do that?
Speaker 6: That that filtered through him like I think he thinks
Speaker 6: you're talking about I'm.
Speaker 7: Not talking about it. I didn't know you did that.
Speaker 6: Bro. When we got that little JANKI backpack, he does,
Speaker 6: he throws it up top Hold on, kid.
Speaker 7: First class is different.
Speaker 4: Literally, when we got on the flight for the first time,
Speaker 4: before we deplaned, I had my backpack in my hand.
Speaker 4: The old guy that was next it next to me
Speaker 4: on speakerphone calling his wife on full volume. He goes, Hey,
Speaker 4: do you want to put that backpack up top of
Speaker 4: I'll put it under and we deep plane and we
Speaker 4: get back and I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 4: will put it up this time. So I put it
Speaker 4: up and then he said that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's got to be he. I don't know how JP
Speaker 4: caught me doing that. I obviously just hold on myself.
Speaker 5: I wasn't because first class it is different, Like I mean,
Speaker 5: that's y'all's been but Southwest standard boarding it just it
Speaker 5: pisses me off.
Speaker 7: Put in the scene in front of you.
Speaker 4: What's interesting about this the first class thing is sometimes
Speaker 4: people like Zone six will be coming on and this
Speaker 4: guy who's in the back of the plane will take
Speaker 4: a first bin, a first class bin. And I always
Speaker 4: thinking it's sneaky. It's a good little strategy if.
Speaker 7: It's their power power.
Speaker 4: You know he is beneath me. But no, I don't
Speaker 4: get mad about that. I just said him trying to
Speaker 4: get it how he lives.
Speaker 6: Take the out.
Speaker 4: Another trick for those of you on on airplanes when
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, we're over sold, we're gonna start tagging
Speaker 4: people's backs and they come up and at your bag. Bro,
Speaker 4: when you're walking down the little jet lane or whatever,
Speaker 4: pull that thing off. No one's gonna catch you.
Speaker 2: What happens when you get on the plane though, and
Speaker 2: there's no overhead space, It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Bro, I'm telling you. I'm gonna tell you that.
Speaker 6: And now that right there is completely tall on yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do that if they tag my bag, and
Speaker 4: I know it's gonna fit like that, right, there's part
Speaker 4: of what JP's like.
Speaker 6: It slows up the process now that you're part of.
Speaker 4: They tag me as I'm walking, I'm ripping that thing
Speaker 4: out and put in my back pocket. And then I'll
Speaker 4: walk down the aisle, put my shit up. No problem,
Speaker 4: that happened Spring Tour last year. Go Aheadkay, what's your shot?
Speaker 6: My shot out no for shadow goes to a clean
Speaker 6: operation in the theme of airlines and everything else, when
Speaker 6: a flight takes off on time, the operation is smooth.
Speaker 6: People get on the plane quick, they put their bags
Speaker 6: in the right spot, and you're taking off and your
Speaker 6: landing maybe even a little earlier. But to me, that's
Speaker 6: a small win that I think is becoming a little
Speaker 6: more uncommon these days because airlines can't figure their shit
Speaker 6: out and taking off on time. So my shout out,
Speaker 6: no for shadow goes to a clean operation at airports. Nice,
Speaker 6: thank you.
Speaker 4: My real shout out, no for shoutout goes to cicadas.
Speaker 6: Cicadas.
Speaker 4: Cicadas, those little those little bugs that have now just
Speaker 4: hatched after like however many years. Why is that they
Speaker 4: are slow moving, they don't fly very well, they can't bite.
Speaker 4: It's a little kids like playground to go outside and
Speaker 4: to catch those things. For hours on end. I will
Speaker 4: go sit in the yard as if I'm an old
Speaker 4: man in a rocking chair and watch my kids go
Speaker 4: catchy cicadas for three to four hours and they are
Speaker 4: ripping around. They love it. They'll come up, they'll show
Speaker 4: it to me. They're just getting merched left right, and
Speaker 4: centecas are being too rough with them. But there's billions
Speaker 4: of these motherfuckers run around and I'm pretty sure my
Speaker 4: house is a beacon for them. That's where they've literally said,
Speaker 4: this is what we're gonna set up base camp.
Speaker 6: They are everywhere, up.
Speaker 4: The trees, in the trees, in the bushes, on the ground.
Speaker 4: I stept on three of them getting here today. Just
Speaker 4: walk into my car.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they are everywhere.
Speaker 4: I love it, so shout shouts.
Speaker 6: They're disgusting.
Speaker 4: They are creepy looking.
Speaker 6: They're creepy, bro. They I'm more of a catch fireflies,
Speaker 6: lightning bugs. Yeah, get old wolf a ball bat, y'all
Speaker 6: never did that? Yeah, that must be some Missouri ship. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean I was just a young little I was
Speaker 6: just a young little jit with a wolfball bat, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: In Florida?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Green anyway, man, Uh, should we get into the
Speaker 6: episode of Rayan Carthon?
Speaker 4: We absolutely should.
Speaker 6: People are gonna love this episode, especially Titans fans. I mean,
Speaker 6: getting to talk to Ryan about the transition with Mike
Speaker 6: Vrabel because there's obviously a lot of drama surrounding that.
Speaker 6: His journey, his passion to becoming a GM, I thought
Speaker 6: was very fascinating where he would pick up magazines. I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna give all all the fun away, but this
Speaker 6: is an awesome episode. His best cutting stories, like when
Speaker 6: he had to cut guys. It gets a little dicey
Speaker 6: at times in the in the in the room. Why
Speaker 6: he's trying to cut guys at home? Yeah, not losing
Speaker 6: at home, the times he's been cut because he bounced
Speaker 6: around a few teams within I was it four years? Yeah,
Speaker 6: I believe he got four years, four or five years
Speaker 6: in the league. Yeah, the expectations for this season, how
Speaker 6: he jails with the staff that has been brought in,
Speaker 6: why he likes why Brian Callahan he was the first
Speaker 6: and the last guy that they basically interviewed, and also
Speaker 6: some tear talk that you guys will enjoy.
Speaker 4: He also talks about the process of how he became
Speaker 4: a GM and how he was still playing football in
Speaker 4: that process, and how he got in people's ears. A
Speaker 4: very cool networking, networking move by him, and also they
Speaker 4: talk about how he cuts me and we knew him
Speaker 4: for a month. I knew him for less than a month. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and his process of cutting me and all that. And
Speaker 4: it was a cool story to hear from his point
Speaker 4: of view because the way Ran explains it is exactly.
Speaker 6: How it happened. Yeah, now you guys will love it.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mitch.
Speaker 6: We finally got late, we got ladies got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I did say to JP's camera it took
Speaker 4: a little hunting, it took a little.
Speaker 1: Text let's not do that's that's not.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you? Can I tell you from my
Speaker 4: from okay with them? So when did you you got
Speaker 4: the job? What?
Speaker 9: In January January twenty three, January twenty three, being outside
Speaker 9: of Rabel's office, sitting with stretch and you came in
Speaker 9: and the way the last GM was it was like
Speaker 9: you gotta be a little tighter around it, and you
Speaker 9: came in, dap me up, Hey love the show.
Speaker 4: First thing you said to me, I'm thinking we got them? Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, to come on some I love to come
Speaker 4: on some time. Next time I saw you, you're releasing me,
Speaker 4: which we all knew was gonna happen to that story,
Speaker 4: that story, you guys released me, and I think like
Speaker 4: forty eight hours later I hit you with the text
Speaker 4: like hey, you want to come on bust with the boys?
Speaker 4: Nothing right, Yeah, But finally it's been a year and
Speaker 4: it's it's awesome that you've come on now instead of then,
Speaker 4: because what you have been able to acquire and do
Speaker 4: in this past offseason has been awesome. So it's exciting
Speaker 4: to see and.
Speaker 6: It's better to have you on the And the only friction,
Speaker 6: the only like part that was like, okay, chill out.
Speaker 6: He came up to us in the facility when you're
Speaker 6: gonna have me on, been waiting on y'all.
Speaker 4: Try again, And as we're saying this, I literally said it.
Speaker 4: In a year later, it's been like five months, so yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll messed that up.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about Let's start off, let's talk about the
Speaker 6: you cutting him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. So, so the day that you know
Speaker 1: we were doing it, you know, we meet in Phrases
Speaker 1: office and we come in and we're just chatting and
Speaker 1: just just talking literally having a conversation that kind of
Speaker 1: goes into I got a comploser, Pauls and so I,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just sitting there having a conversation and
Speaker 1: I can't even remember what the topic of the conversation was.
Speaker 1: And then just him, Okay, so you're releasing me. Transition,
Speaker 1: no segue, no nothing, just all right, so you're releasing me.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, uh yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: he kind of knew it was coming, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's how the conversation when.
Speaker 4: We got back after Mexico, right, yeah, because I was
Speaker 4: in Cabo and Vrabel shout out rabes in this because
Speaker 4: a lot of guys don't get to choose when they
Speaker 4: get released, because we all knew, like the minute I
Speaker 4: had to get my kney done again two out of
Speaker 4: three years, like you're here getting canned, brother, You're not
Speaker 4: going to be making that kind of money and not
Speaker 4: playing on the field. So he calls me and he's like, hey,
Speaker 4: we obviously have to release you. You let us know
Speaker 4: when the best thing for you is. I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, these dates work, and he's like, can you
Speaker 4: do it before the combine? I was like, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: these days now work. So when I went in, I
Speaker 4: had like I kind of came in. We all knew,
Speaker 4: and Rave and I are sitting there talking about Jen
Speaker 4: and their skiing and it's kind of cool. It's like
Speaker 4: it's like a nice a last meal before it's a
Speaker 4: gun gets put to your head, right and yeah, you
Speaker 4: sit down. We haven't really talked at all the last
Speaker 4: thing I said, and in my head, I was like,
Speaker 4: we just got to get this going because I know
Speaker 4: it's kind of awkward for everybody. You're new, Like you
Speaker 4: and I hardly know each other. Raybe and I've been
Speaker 4: here for five years. We all understand what's about to
Speaker 4: happen here.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I say, this the tough part for
Speaker 1: me obviously coming into this role, you know, this new
Speaker 1: role and being from Afar and you know, having respect
Speaker 1: for this team and having respect for certain guys, like
Speaker 1: having to release you and like dang, like I remember
Speaker 1: this dude coming out of Michigan. I had him rated high,
Speaker 1: liked him coming out and watching him become a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl player, and even guys like Robert Woods. You know,
Speaker 1: I've missed him at every one of my stops. So
Speaker 1: I was at the Rams when we signed him and
Speaker 1: then leave a month later, so never got to see
Speaker 1: him on the field. I even have Robert Woods in
Speaker 1: my GM presentation about players that we've I've been a
Speaker 1: part of requiring, you know, the different Pro Bowl caliber players,
Speaker 1: but I always have him in there as an example
Speaker 1: of a person that's going to come in and change
Speaker 1: the culture, you know, of the building. And then I
Speaker 1: get here and have to release him, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I finally met Robert Woods when we played at
Speaker 1: Houston last year and just kind of walked up to
Speaker 1: him like, hey, man, like a ton of respect for you.
Speaker 1: I met everything I told you on the phone when
Speaker 1: we talked that day, Like, have nothing but respect for you.
Speaker 1: It's just part of the way this thing works.
Speaker 6: Is it hard? Like yeah, I know it's hard, but
Speaker 6: you come in and it's like he's highly graded, you
Speaker 6: know who he is, He's had his career and on
Speaker 6: that last year, it's like the get back year. Finally,
Speaker 6: it's like you got to put everything on and then
Speaker 6: that first play or second play a buffalo happens. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and in your mind as a GM, are you basically
Speaker 6: was it fairly simple at that point, like, hey, this
Speaker 6: is going to be a guy we're going to have
Speaker 6: to release due to money and everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the strategy of it is simple. But you know,
Speaker 1: and I think you and I share this and being
Speaker 1: undrafted guys. And I don't know about you, but I've
Speaker 1: been cut a multitude of ways. Yeah, you know, some good,
Speaker 1: some inhumane.
Speaker 6: You know what's the worst you've been cut?
Speaker 1: Uh? I won't say. The team is two one. I
Speaker 1: knew I was getting cut. You had to be cut
Speaker 1: down coming. I think it'd be pretty easy to figure
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 6: But he was one you had three years.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're playing a preseason game. We're playing in a
Speaker 1: place where my wife and my daughter are living. And
Speaker 1: so when I come back, when I come on the
Speaker 1: team flight, I bring all my stuff home and so
Speaker 1: I go to the team after the game. I barely play.
Speaker 1: I hadn't doesn't get any practice reps. So I say, hey,
Speaker 1: I know what's coming tomorrow. Can I just stay, like,
Speaker 1: we can do the cut right now. I'll sign whatever
Speaker 1: you need to sign. I'm healthy, that's nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 1: It's just more convenient for me to just leave with
Speaker 1: my wife and my daughter and go home. I live
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from here. Oh, we don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, come on, man, Like I was like,
Speaker 1: cause if I go back, I'm only bringing what I
Speaker 1: have on my body and my wallet. I'm not taking anything.
Speaker 6: And players are in tune with like.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and so they oh, man, we don't know
Speaker 1: fly back. First person they called next morning is me
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so I go in the building. I
Speaker 1: already knew that there was like an eleven oh five
Speaker 1: flight leaving, so I was like, hey, look, can you
Speaker 1: just book me on the eleven oh five? Like no, harm, no, file, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't need to meet with anybody, Like, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I just just want to go home, and well, you
Speaker 1: know you need to meet nah. No, I don't like,
Speaker 1: do meet each coach? Yeah? Yeah, and I get the
Speaker 1: reason why you do that. But at that point I
Speaker 1: was like, and then the other one, My my wife
Speaker 1: and my daughter are actually getting ready to move back
Speaker 1: home to Miami, and we're doing a going away deal
Speaker 1: at my daughter school. I'm passing cupcakes out to the
Speaker 1: kids on a Tuesday and get the call in the
Speaker 1: middle of passing cupcakes out and I got it. I
Speaker 1: look at the phone and I look at her and
Speaker 1: she's like, no, because we I mean, we went through it.
Speaker 1: So I say all that to say, like, when it's
Speaker 1: time to cut people like you, try to do it
Speaker 1: the most tactful and most professional and humane way, just
Speaker 1: because I've been through it, and you know, you try
Speaker 1: to be honest. You know, you try to be honest.
Speaker 1: You try to be up front, and you know, I've
Speaker 1: had it to where there have been guys that you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't particularly see as an NFL player, So you
Speaker 1: try to have that conversation. Doesn't always go well, you know,
Speaker 1: but you try to be cause I see it a
Speaker 1: lot these guys. You know, you're you don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell these guys. So sometimes it's hey, man, you're
Speaker 1: going to play a long time in this league. You know,
Speaker 1: this is just something we gotta do. And now this
Speaker 1: team is a numbers game, and now this guy's still
Speaker 1: training looking for opportunity. Three four years, five years, when
Speaker 1: if you were honest and said, hey, look man, like
Speaker 1: this game is probably not for you at this level.
Speaker 1: You know, you got a college degree. You might want
Speaker 1: to start exploring these things. You know, having that conversation
Speaker 1: at least get that in their mind. Like I knew personally.
Speaker 1: I said, if if I got to the point where
Speaker 1: my number of teams outweighed my years of service, it's
Speaker 1: time to do something different. Yeah, and I got there quick.
Speaker 1: Five teams in three years. It's time to go.
Speaker 4: Five teams in three years. When you're.
Speaker 6: Who's a jealous? Answer?
Speaker 1: Answer to put it on?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 6: Baba?
Speaker 4: I got you on the jelly row?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 4: How can I help you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: We're getting after brother, We got to bank these things,
Speaker 4: getting ready for June.
Speaker 6: We need you. I'm prime.
Speaker 4: You really are? You really are having that contract to
Speaker 4: you right now? It's going nuts. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 4: I'll call you after this a right, love you to see.
Speaker 4: You were just talking about him. But when you're when
Speaker 4: you're cutting guys, do you find it harder to cut
Speaker 4: rookies or cut vets.
Speaker 1: It's probably hard to cut vets. Sometimes they see it coming.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't. So that's that's the hard part. And
Speaker 1: vets you generally have a longer conversation, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, especially you know, guys like yourself, who's astute,
Speaker 1: and you want to know the why. You know why, Hey, look,
Speaker 1: I thought I was playing better than you know, this
Speaker 1: guy and this guy. So you have to have those
Speaker 1: conversations most of the times. With the rookies. The hard
Speaker 1: part with them is you see the emotion, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because you got to think about it.
Speaker 1: Most of these dudes, this is the first time they've
Speaker 1: ever been told they weren't good enough, right, you know,
Speaker 1: and so you're the first person to ever tell them that.
Speaker 1: You have to have that conversation. I mean, you live
Speaker 1: through the emotion with them, and so you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not that brutal of a human. You see the emotion
Speaker 1: of a of another man, it kind of kind of
Speaker 1: gets to you a little bit. But then it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it becomes one of those things like I say,
Speaker 1: if I ever get to the point where it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect me, you know, to cut somebody's probably time for
Speaker 1: me to look for something else to do.
Speaker 6: What's been your stickiest situation cutting a player or maybe
Speaker 6: you're fumbling over your words. Oh shit, this is not
Speaker 6: going like I thought.
Speaker 1: No, I've had a situation where you try to have
Speaker 1: that real conversation with a player like hey man, like
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably time of transition, you know, and
Speaker 1: look for something else to do. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're interested in, you know, by all means like let
Speaker 1: us help you, you know, connect you with the player
Speaker 1: engagement guy. We can help you figure this out. And
Speaker 1: what are you saying. I'm like, well, I don't think
Speaker 1: that you're an NFL player, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And you try to have that conversation and then it,
Speaker 1: you know, it gets gets a little hostile. You kind
Speaker 1: of feel that heat. And I mean, I'm not losing
Speaker 1: at home, you know, like you're my office. One of
Speaker 1: us is coming out. It's gonna always be. I don't
Speaker 1: have the win to sit there and box with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm not doing that. So I have stuff
Speaker 1: strategically placed if I need to grab and defend myself.
Speaker 6: If you felt like a tension there.
Speaker 1: I have. Like when I was much younger, I felt
Speaker 1: I felt the tension you know before, And it's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this could be to day, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's never it's never got to that point. But then
Speaker 1: I also have to think about it. Sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: you essentially fired somebody, and so if that person wants
Speaker 1: to be upset and express it, like, it's probably best
Speaker 1: to just deal with it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and just let that person have the emotion because it
Speaker 1: is their right to be upset, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just uh, most of the times you have
Speaker 1: to sit back and just like hey, man, like I understand,
Speaker 1: I got you. You know.
Speaker 4: It's so interesting you say it's like it's harder to
Speaker 4: cut vets, and I get that for like the relationship standpoint,
Speaker 4: But every VET I've been around, that's like above five years,
Speaker 4: they always kind of see the right. You're in the
Speaker 4: game long enough to realize, hey, when it's about to happen.
Speaker 4: Every single training camp there is always at least one guy,
Speaker 4: one rookie that you just there. You can see the
Speaker 4: ignorance of they've been in high school, and in high
Speaker 4: school say next year, we'll get them. Next year, will
Speaker 4: get them. There's never a cut college. Hey, I'm going
Speaker 4: to grow and develop and next year, I'll be a starter,
Speaker 4: that type of thing, and they just think I'll get
Speaker 4: them next year if I'm not a start this year.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden they come in the
Speaker 4: locker room and they're just balling their eyes out. I
Speaker 4: feel it's got it for me. It's just from the
Speaker 4: outside of watching it seemed like the rookies always just
Speaker 4: took it the heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the that's the emotion that you have
Speaker 1: to deal with. And one of the things I've always encouraged,
Speaker 1: even when I was just a pro scout. When I
Speaker 1: was a pro scout, my job was going to get them,
Speaker 1: you know, so I was the reaper or whatever they
Speaker 1: call them, theilding. But what I always tried to do
Speaker 1: was I always tried to do it. And and because
Speaker 1: again I've been cut every which way, and so if
Speaker 1: I especially a VET, I would never follow behind the vet.
Speaker 1: I would catch the vet one on one. Hey, look
Speaker 1: you need to come up and see coach. You go
Speaker 1: see coach. And then I just tell them because now
Speaker 1: I have to walk you around through the exit process,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, look, to help you avoid the
Speaker 1: questions from your teammates, we're gonna go from here, you're
Speaker 1: going to go to medical. From medical to equipment, and
Speaker 1: then I'll be loosely by you without anybody suspecting me around.
Speaker 1: So I would just blend in, you gotta go see
Speaker 1: medical as while you're meeting with the trainers, I'm over
Speaker 1: here joking with this guy, talking to this guy, make
Speaker 1: eye contact with the trainer, like hey, are we good,
Speaker 1: and then when they leave go to the equipment room,
Speaker 1: I kind of loosely follow behind. So when I was
Speaker 1: doing it, you would never know that I'm following this dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so when I got
Speaker 1: a position to have other people do it, I would say, hey,
Speaker 1: like give them the respect. Yeah, don't try to walk
Speaker 1: behind them with the paper and like, no, you need
Speaker 1: to go, like give them the respect because the last
Speaker 1: thing you want is for the walk through that locker
Speaker 1: room and everybody's like, damn, you got cut everybody. That's
Speaker 1: the last down. Yeah, that's the last thing you want.
Speaker 1: So I always try to do it with respect.
Speaker 4: Is that like I think you've acquired over time or
Speaker 4: the first time you knew you're gonna have to be
Speaker 4: the grim reaper, you were like I have to be
Speaker 4: as respectful as possible.
Speaker 1: Well, the first time, I'm never forget the first person
Speaker 1: I cut. It was the day they're saying, we're I
Speaker 1: have to get this guy. He decides to do extra.
Speaker 1: No he didn't. He didn't play after that, and so
Speaker 1: he's doing extra on the field. It's ot A and
Speaker 1: I'm like waiting and I'm trying to catch him, you know,
Speaker 1: catch him one on one. So he huddles up with
Speaker 1: a group of vets and he's walking. I'm on a
Speaker 1: time limit, right because they were like we need to
Speaker 1: have him up here about twelve fifteen. It's like twelve
Speaker 1: oh five, and I'm like and I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: eye contact with him as he's walking with the vets
Speaker 1: and he's not making.
Speaker 4: Eye Couns knows he of course he knows.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's like in.
Speaker 6: Your money as a player, Like, what do you think
Speaker 6: is going to happen? Like you're away? Yeah, yeah, you'll
Speaker 6: just be on the week one rotter.
Speaker 1: So then I had to like, hey, uh let me
Speaker 1: how let you for a second and he comes. I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, like we need to go up
Speaker 1: and see coach right now. So we go up. We
Speaker 1: do the whole thing. I still give him the respect
Speaker 1: or whatever. That weekend, I decide, you know, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm go hang out this weekend. I can't
Speaker 1: make this up. I get to the bar, I go
Speaker 1: to the bar, I order a drink. I look up
Speaker 1: and he's at the corner of the bar and I
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I cancel that drink. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I need to keep him in view. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he thinks it's me, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Shit, And I ended up being there
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: I was like, no, I gotta go, gotta get out
Speaker 6: of here.
Speaker 1: And I just remember me and him locking eyes and
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I feel like I would be harder too,
Speaker 6: because like rookies, you'll cut him or whatever. They'll probably
Speaker 6: be more emotional because it is their first time kind
Speaker 6: of being told no. And not only that, but everyone
Speaker 6: ever rookie, like everybody wants to be the best. And
Speaker 6: you have the weight of whatever pressure expectation you have
Speaker 6: on yourself because you've identified as a as a stud player.
Speaker 6: It's like, now you got to tell your family. With
Speaker 6: everybody at homeworner thing, man, I feel like a loser,
Speaker 6: Like there's a lot of that weight. I feel like
Speaker 6: with vets you'll have the longer conversations because sometimes it's
Speaker 6: probably not easy because there could be games going on, right,
Speaker 6: like Okay, I hadn't been playing, or man, I've been
Speaker 6: getting more rips to him, or the reason that this
Speaker 6: didn't work out is because did you ever talk to
Speaker 6: the coach or this film? That film?
Speaker 10: I feel like there's a lot of kind of a
Speaker 10: lot more conversation that goes into it, you know, And
Speaker 10: like I said, it's just never easy with a VET,
Speaker 10: especially a guy that's just been with that organization, right,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit easier conversation for you know,
Speaker 1: the quote unquote journeyman that's bounced around. But for a
Speaker 1: guy that's been with a club three four or five
Speaker 1: six years and then you got to deliver this message,
Speaker 1: it's like whoa, Like this is all I know this
Speaker 1: is And most times you have to explain to him
Speaker 1: how the process goes because they've never gone through it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's like I said,
Speaker 1: it's a lot further conversation.
Speaker 4: That was such a hard Like I thought I would
Speaker 4: have to sign something because I we're sitting there and
Speaker 4: being like we're after sign Like, no, we just have
Speaker 4: to tell you we're releasing you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell your release, you walk you through the process.
Speaker 4: And you know, because that was my only time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so you did that to me.
Speaker 4: Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Man, I needed to.
Speaker 4: First one who you want to first? Go seventy seven? Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the guy, get his money. Here's so we're going
Speaker 4: to freedom fairly quickly. Yeah, we're go get that guy.
Speaker 4: That was wild because I thought there has to be
Speaker 4: like some sort of like signing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's not too formal, you know, if
Speaker 1: you will is you know for you, you know, you
Speaker 1: were still rehabing. So it was one of those things
Speaker 1: like for a person that's you know, fully healthy, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm signing out fully healthy, and then for a player
Speaker 1: that's rehabbing, it becomes an extended process because now you
Speaker 1: got to go get images and all these different things.
Speaker 1: It becomes a much longer process. So that's really the
Speaker 1: difference in yours and whoever else we did around it.
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Speaker 6: Man, what got you into going from player to wanting
Speaker 6: to get in to the other side of getting into
Speaker 6: the floor above the front off you.
Speaker 4: Think about a guy out gets cut five times in
Speaker 4: three years, I feel that's something you want to stay away.
Speaker 1: From more than five times three years. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: played for five teams in three years. I got cut
Speaker 1: out there exponentially more.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it was something that I always knew I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I've always been like a big fan of
Speaker 1: the draft, and before I even knew that that's this
Speaker 1: was an industry draft, weekend would come. I would go
Speaker 1: buy the magazines, I get a legal pad, and I
Speaker 1: would sit in front of TV in my room and
Speaker 1: try to, you know, based off of me reading these
Speaker 1: magazines and watching college football, try to predict who was
Speaker 1: gonna take who. And then you know, my dad played
Speaker 1: eight years in the league, coach for nineteen and he
Speaker 1: always wanted to be on the personnel side, but when
Speaker 1: he was done playing, parcels forced him into coaching, and
Speaker 1: so my dad all the teams my dad was with
Speaker 1: when I was in college, when he came down for
Speaker 1: pro days, whether it was him or someone from the staff,
Speaker 1: he would say, Hey, you're gonna get up, You're gonna
Speaker 1: meet them, watch film with them at six in the morning,
Speaker 1: whatever it was. You're gonna chart their numbers, you know.
Speaker 1: And so when I was in college, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: running the stopwatch, you know, and I like went on
Speaker 1: to Pro day whenever whether it was my dad, I
Speaker 1: remember one time Tony Sperano got rest his soul, you know,
Speaker 1: he came down. I remember one year it was Terry Rubisky,
Speaker 1: you know, when he came down. And so I'm holding
Speaker 1: I'm running clocks, you know for these guys and being
Speaker 1: amongst the scouts as they're talking about the different times
Speaker 1: and everything and charting all this, and then you know,
Speaker 1: they would ask me questions about my teammates, like hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this guy? Like is he
Speaker 1: a good teammate? And you know, how do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think about him on the field? And
Speaker 1: so that started it. And then, like I said, when
Speaker 1: years of service outweighed, when teams outweigh years of service,
Speaker 1: it was time to transition. I tried to coach. I
Speaker 1: coached high school ball down in Miami at North Miami
Speaker 1: Senior High and seven knew probably the first two weeks
Speaker 1: that that wasn't a route for me. Didn't have a
Speaker 1: patience for yeah, it didn't have a pay for it.
Speaker 1: And I quickly knew. I was like, Okay, let me try.
Speaker 1: So then I started taking workouts with teams because I
Speaker 1: was like, how else am I going to meet the gym?
Speaker 1: Like I don't have GM's phone numbers, so I knew
Speaker 1: I didn't want to play anymore, but teams were still
Speaker 1: called like, hey, we want to try you out, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I would go in and do a tryout
Speaker 1: just to be able to meet the GM and so yeah,
Speaker 1: and so when they were still and so, they would say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, sorry, you know, not going to sign you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, cool, yeah, can I get your car
Speaker 1: because I want to do what you do one day?
Speaker 1: And that's how I meant less need. I went and
Speaker 1: did a rookie mini camp tryout with the Falcons. Didn't
Speaker 1: get a single rep the whole mini camp, which was perfect,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was yeah. I was just like now
Speaker 1: I'm good. And so I remember we were walking out
Speaker 1: of the front of the building and Less was, you know, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for coming, you know, and I
Speaker 1: was shook his hand. I was like, hey, man, like
Speaker 1: let me get your card, you know, let me get
Speaker 1: your card. I was like, I want to do what
Speaker 1: you do one day, and He's like, I don't have
Speaker 1: any on me, but just reach out. And so when
Speaker 1: I was trying to get back in, I remember that
Speaker 1: conversation and my agent that I had at the time,
Speaker 1: Kevin Connor, he had two players on the Falcons team.
Speaker 1: So I was like, hey, man, like call the teams
Speaker 1: that you have relationships with and let them know I'm
Speaker 1: sending cover letters, resumes like all this stuff. And he
Speaker 1: he called me. He was like, hey, man, I talked
Speaker 1: to Less. He said, they doesn't have anything, but he
Speaker 1: wants to bring in an interview and talk with you
Speaker 1: and interview with it with Les and Thomas de Mitrof
Speaker 1: and Lino Vital and Dave Calwell, all who I had.
Speaker 1: With the exception of Thomas, I had different connections with them,
Speaker 1: unknowingly right, And so about two weeks later, man, let's
Speaker 1: call me and offer me a job. That's how I
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yo, that's fascinating. Yeah, it's like obviously somebody like
Speaker 6: that growing up magazines everything else, Like you've loved football
Speaker 6: for the longest time. And usually, like the guys, once
Speaker 6: you start playing and you understand the business like getting
Speaker 6: cut a few times, Like once you understand the teeth
Speaker 6: of it and how cutthrower can be, it kind of
Speaker 6: jade you a little bit. As a player. You maintain
Speaker 6: you're throughout this whole thing. You're maintaining that that love
Speaker 6: for still wanting to be in the business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me, I've been blessed to have
Speaker 1: great mentors and one of my primary mentors back home
Speaker 1: in Key West, Bill Spots. Would you know his You
Speaker 1: know him and his family. They do real estate development
Speaker 1: amongst other things, and they owned a couple of hotels.
Speaker 1: And I remember him telling me a story when he
Speaker 1: was younger, you know, he told his father like, hey,
Speaker 1: one day, I want to own my own hotel. And
Speaker 1: his family owned a couple of hotels, and so his
Speaker 1: father then put him in the business and he worked
Speaker 1: every level of the hotel from a bellman to run
Speaker 1: an elevator, to then being behind the counter, and worked
Speaker 1: his way up until he became owner, you know, of
Speaker 1: one of the family hotels. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I see my journey. You know, I've been on
Speaker 1: the field, I've been a scout, I've been a director,
Speaker 1: and now I've been a GM So I've worked my
Speaker 1: way through an organization, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I've seen it from every level, and it puts me
Speaker 1: in a position to be able to identify with everybody
Speaker 1: in the building. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, that's when you're when you finally get that call
Speaker 4: and say, hey, you want this job, you take it?
Speaker 6: Did you have any idea job.
Speaker 4: Not the GM job, just like the starting out getting
Speaker 4: into with us everybody. Did you have any idea of
Speaker 4: like how much of the bitch work and all that
Speaker 4: that stuff you would have to do?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he waser a pointer like is this really what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do? Is is this worth it?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 1: No? So the pay pay and listen, I knew I
Speaker 1: wasn't coming in making forty million dollars, Like, I knew
Speaker 1: that that's not what the what the job is. And
Speaker 1: you honestly don't get in the personnel to make money.
Speaker 1: You know, you get in because you love it and
Speaker 1: you're passionate about it. But I remember getting the job,
Speaker 1: and I knew that I was going to have to
Speaker 1: do a lot of the grunt work. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to because there was a stigma attached to former players
Speaker 1: that we don't want to do the menial task, and
Speaker 1: so I wanted to be able to be the guy
Speaker 1: that's like, oh Na, like you need me, run to
Speaker 1: the airport that's an hour away. Cool, I'll you know,
Speaker 1: run to the airport. That's an hour away and sit
Speaker 1: in Atlanta traffic, you know, for two hours to get there,
Speaker 1: just to more so knock down that stigma, to be
Speaker 1: able to let other former players have a shot, you know,
Speaker 1: at getting in. But it's like when they when the
Speaker 1: pay is is what it was, I tell you guys
Speaker 1: off air, and it's like you're rubbing Nichols together every
Speaker 1: two weeks like ooh, you know. It's like, man, it's
Speaker 1: I'm like, I could have been doing a bunch of
Speaker 1: other things making more money than this. But again, like
Speaker 1: I said, you don't. You don't get in to make money.
Speaker 1: You get in for the love of it.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a testament to your drive about wanting
Speaker 6: to do something and being in the seat you're in.
Speaker 6: What is the relationship with Less need the most important
Speaker 6: relationship you feel like you've made throughout your journey of
Speaker 6: climbing to where you are now.
Speaker 1: No, it's definitely my foundation one. Like I said, everywhere
Speaker 1: I've been I've been able to foster relationships like my
Speaker 1: relationship with Less. When he got the GM job at
Speaker 1: the Rams, he hired me and gave me my first
Speaker 1: director job. You know. From there, I was able to
Speaker 1: you know, work with you know, Jeff Fisher, our new
Speaker 1: de coordinator, Denard Wilson. We worked together at the Rams
Speaker 1: and the Frank Bushes and the Greg Williams and guys
Speaker 1: like that. And then transitioned to Sean McVay and his
Speaker 1: staff coming in and all those guys that we were around,
Speaker 1: you know, Sean was there, you know, Mattie LeFleur was there,
Speaker 1: Guys like Aubrey Pleasant, you know, all these guys were around.
Speaker 1: And then go to San fran and then, I mean shit,
Speaker 1: in what twenty nineteen our draft room featured I guess
Speaker 1: now five gms and four head coaches where and we
Speaker 1: were all in the same draft room in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: And then you develop relationships with guys like Paragua Maraate,
Speaker 1: you know, who's run the business side for San Francisco
Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. He was originally hired by Bill Walsh.
Speaker 1: And then have a guy like that take you under
Speaker 1: his wing and start showing you the contract side, and
Speaker 1: you know, working with guys like Koasi Adolpho Mensas showing
Speaker 1: you how to incorporate analytics in football. Like it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of different people who've poured into me from a
Speaker 1: football that's just football. But then you meet people outside
Speaker 1: of football that poured into you from a business perspective,
Speaker 1: because we have to remember football is football, right, That's
Speaker 1: what we've done our whole lives. That's what we came
Speaker 1: up doing. But at the time, Jerry Richardson was the
Speaker 1: only owner that had played in the NFL, and so
Speaker 1: a lot of the owners are come from the business background.
Speaker 1: So being able to have you know, certain mentors to
Speaker 1: teach you the business side allows you to speak that
Speaker 1: language you know, and you know, be on the same
Speaker 1: page with the owner from a business perspective. So it's
Speaker 1: been a ton of people that have poured into me
Speaker 1: to help me get here.
Speaker 6: That's cool, man.
Speaker 4: That is while and it seems like you're very aware
Speaker 4: of all the people that have helped you and gotten
Speaker 4: to the point you're at now, which is so awesome.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the war room on the first
Speaker 4: draft night, talk to me about the intensity that goes.
Speaker 6: Down in there.
Speaker 4: How like this this draft, we know the Titans want
Speaker 4: to take a tackle or pull up Bengles and our
Speaker 4: quarterback got hurt. We're still going to go get a
Speaker 4: wide receiver type of situation when you guys are sitting
Speaker 4: there and Callahan, who was on, he said, you guys
Speaker 4: were happy with Jacon Latham or Joe Walt, Like as
Speaker 4: it starts ticking and Joe Walt goes out at five,
Speaker 4: like where is like what's the energy like in that room?
Speaker 1: So it's a ton of work that goes into it beforehand.
Speaker 1: And I will say, and we were talking about this
Speaker 1: at the office last week, I will say, of every
Speaker 1: draft room I've been in, this was probably the most
Speaker 1: accurate board that I've ever been a part of. From
Speaker 1: because we rank them vertically, then we rank them horizontally
Speaker 1: right by position, This was probably the most accurate board.
Speaker 4: Now when you say vertically and horizontally, are you talking
Speaker 4: about best players vertically?
Speaker 1: Yes, So we have the positions going horizontally right, just
Speaker 1: straight across split offense, defense. And so if we got
Speaker 1: quarterbacks here, you know, we rank them vertically, you know,
Speaker 1: from one to whatever, and you do that for every position,
Speaker 1: and then you go across horizontally like, okay, is this
Speaker 1: quarterback better than this receiver? And then you start adjusting
Speaker 1: the cards as you go. So it's kind of like
Speaker 1: this as it goes across you know, the board, and
Speaker 1: so we pretty much knew just based on our research,
Speaker 1: we knew exactly where the first four picks were going
Speaker 1: to be. And for us, the draft started at five
Speaker 1: at the Chargers. And then you get to the spot
Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, we have three guys you know
Speaker 1: over these next three picks that we're good with any
Speaker 1: one of these three. We don't have to make any
Speaker 1: sudden moves to jump up. You know that it's going
Speaker 1: to cost us in the future, and so it was
Speaker 1: it was a way game. We done enough research to
Speaker 1: know that the Chargers were going tackle, and so you
Speaker 1: sit there and you're like, okay, which one, and then
Speaker 1: you start playing the Well, you know, they got Rashaun
Speaker 1: Slater at left tackle, so I could see JC going
Speaker 1: because he's played right tackle, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then you're like, well, you know, the Chargers were
Speaker 1: at the pro day at Joe Waltz Pro day, and
Speaker 1: you start hearing like they really like him, and so
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I could see that too. So you
Speaker 1: start trying to you know, you do that part, but
Speaker 1: then you got to take it a step further because
Speaker 1: the Giants are right below you and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: the Giants have you know, drafted pretty well on the
Speaker 1: old line and they got some guys and but it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, what if they go what if one
Speaker 1: of the tackles say whoever they take, whether JC or Joe.
Speaker 1: But what if the Giants decide We're going to take tackle.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, then that pushes one of the other
Speaker 1: guys to us, and we got to be comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: So we work all those scenarios. So when we got
Speaker 1: there and we're just sitting there and it's like you're
Speaker 1: you're at the behest of the chargers. So now you
Speaker 1: start hitting your contacts like, hey, what are you hearing?
Speaker 1: What do you know? You're hitting your contacts that are
Speaker 1: in the green room, like, hey, what does it look
Speaker 1: like over at this table? In this table? And then
Speaker 1: you know, we so we usually find out a little
Speaker 1: bit before you know, the it's announced, and so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, chargers pick us in and then it shows
Speaker 1: on our screen and it says Joe out, and so
Speaker 1: we're like okay, and that before yeah.
Speaker 4: So as soon as they put put the car before
Speaker 4: Goodell walks up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we know because because the next team is
Speaker 1: immediately on the clock, and so we're like, okay, and
Speaker 1: now we wait, you know, to see what the Giants do.
Speaker 1: And when once we saw that Joe went to the Chargers,
Speaker 1: we were pretty certain that they were going to take that.
Speaker 1: The Giants were going to take Neighbors, and so it
Speaker 1: was like like, all right, you know, say Sagi, you know,
Speaker 1: get me j C's number. And you know, Sagi's been
Speaker 1: here h I think this was his nineteenth draft with
Speaker 1: the team, and he's like, hey, do we want to
Speaker 1: jinx it? And I was like, listen, if we got
Speaker 1: to rip it up, we rip it up. And then
Speaker 1: we called the next person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was like, but just have it ready, and so
Speaker 1: he got me the got me the number, and we waited,
Speaker 1: and when they took Neighbors, I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we got the big fellow.
Speaker 6: When you know you're going to take JC and the
Speaker 6: teams behind you don't have a needed tackle is there?
Speaker 6: Like are you trying to act till you figure out? Like, hey,
Speaker 6: y'all want to come up?
Speaker 1: No, it was some teams like that called and they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, like we're interested in coming up? Was no,
Speaker 1: because for me. It was like, we're not going to
Speaker 1: pass on a dude that we think like super highly of,
Speaker 1: like just to gain like move back a couple of spots.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was we feel the calls
Speaker 1: probably the first five minutes we were on the clock,
Speaker 1: just to see, you know, if anything was gonna blow
Speaker 1: us away, and didn't, didn't come close, and so we
Speaker 1: picked up the phone and called a big fella and
Speaker 1: was damn happy to get him.
Speaker 6: What's been the craziest draft room moment?
Speaker 4: You've been a part of Everyone here watching right now
Speaker 4: sinking about the movie Draft Day, Yeah, tradings.
Speaker 6: Move and maybe the place talk about one of where
Speaker 6: the players not playing anymore where you could talk about it.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'll tell you. Last year, we get on
Speaker 1: the clock in the third round and Raves and I
Speaker 1: are sitting there and we're discussing, like hey man, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go running back you know right here, and you're
Speaker 1: looking on the board and you know, we were like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's go with the Tulane kid, you know, Taj.
Speaker 1: So then a team calls and they're like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: interested in coming to the to your pick, and they
Speaker 1: made an offer and so we had like, I have
Speaker 1: these screens in front of me that has like the
Speaker 1: trade calculator, and so you know, I started looking at what.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's not gonna get it.
Speaker 6: Is your trade calculator, like like it's just green green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's I don't know because I don't
Speaker 1: I don't play I don't play Mad. To click it in, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't play Madden like that, but it's
Speaker 1: like similar. So there's like there's a bunch of different
Speaker 1: ones that you can use trade charts, but mostly everybody
Speaker 1: used the Jimmy Johnson trade chart, so just clicking through it.
Speaker 1: I told him that offer didn't work, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, but hey, if you give us this this
Speaker 1: and the next year's this, then yeah we could do it.
Speaker 1: And then the guy, the guy who I was speaking to,
Speaker 1: he was like, no, we you know, we'd be out.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, we're gonna make the pick.
Speaker 1: So I tell sag I'm like, hey, can you give
Speaker 1: me tay J. Spears number. I think by this time
Speaker 1: it's probably let's just say three minutes on the clock,
Speaker 1: and I'm literally downing the number. Hit the last number
Speaker 1: that team calls back and they're keep calling. They want
Speaker 1: to do the deal, the one that you proposed and
Speaker 1: one that I proposed. They said no, And then they
Speaker 1: came back right as we're calling to accept the deal,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, it's too late, so pick
Speaker 1: up the phone answers. He's like hello, and all I
Speaker 1: say is and he goes crazy, like screaming. Everybody in
Speaker 1: the family everybody's cheering, and I'm like, yo, like I
Speaker 1: haven't said anything yet, and he's like, let's go.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, hey, man, like hold on, like you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk. And he's going he's.
Speaker 4: Going crazy thinking about taking the deal.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 4: You're about to be like hold on.
Speaker 1: But then click phone hangs up, and so I'm like,
Speaker 1: call back. So I called back. My bad, My bad,
Speaker 1: my bad. Hey, y'all got to shut up, and so
Speaker 1: I'll get back. I'm like, hey, man, you know, call
Speaker 1: him like, hey, we're gonna take you with this pic.
Speaker 1: And everybody's still going crazy. By this time, it's like
Speaker 1: I see it now. It's one forty eight on the clock,
Speaker 1: before we run out of time. Click phone hangs up again.
Speaker 1: And at this point I look at Vin Marino, I'm like,
Speaker 1: just turn it in. Like we've tried him and his
Speaker 1: family to see it, come up on it, Like, just
Speaker 1: turn it in. So we called back again and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, I said, I'm gonna let you talk to
Speaker 1: coach Rabes, and of course, you guys know Rabes. Rabes
Speaker 1: gets on the phone. He's like, hey, listen, man, if
Speaker 1: this is the start of your NFL career, you're not
Speaker 1: getting off on the good foot, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they talked for a little bit and then I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously Taja is great, you know, it's just super good.
Speaker 1: Dude works his behind off. But that was like a crazy.
Speaker 6: Are you thinking? Like as you're down the number and
Speaker 6: then the team wants to accept whatever the trade is
Speaker 6: as a party is like I've already dialed the number.
Speaker 1: I can now And that's always my thought process. It's
Speaker 1: like once I make up my mind to pick, like
Speaker 1: I'm it's it's over, you know, like I'm I'm moving on,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not entertaining that, And I mean for us,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you document everything. You got a camera
Speaker 1: right in your face as you're doing this, so you
Speaker 1: got to maintain maximum composure, you know. And it's uh
Speaker 1: but again, like once once we make our mind up
Speaker 1: to pick, we're picking.
Speaker 4: So what we talk about the camera? Man, I think
Speaker 4: about that aj brownshade, Yeah, ver Able standing up walking
Speaker 4: kind of doing one of these things right here. That
Speaker 4: was It's one of those not composure moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and and again it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: because you have, you know, you have a responsibility to
Speaker 1: your fan base to try to give them as much
Speaker 1: as possible and show them everything that you're doing. But
Speaker 1: when it's when it's that now I'm what I'm feeling
Speaker 1: on the inside versus what's being shown could be totally different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, and everybody has their
Speaker 1: little things that they do. You know, I have a
Speaker 1: baseball that I'm usually like have with me, whether I'm
Speaker 1: you know, squeezing the hell out of the baseball, you know,
Speaker 1: underneath the table or whatever the case may be. I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, Less would have his little shards of paper
Speaker 1: that he's just kind of ripping up. I know, Jeff
Speaker 1: Fisher had a lucky coin. You know that he had
Speaker 1: with him, you know, on draft night. So everybody has
Speaker 1: their little their little deals to just you know, help
Speaker 1: them keep composure.
Speaker 6: You mentioned earlier like this is the most accurate board
Speaker 6: you've ever ever been a part of. What do you
Speaker 6: mean by that?
Speaker 1: From just from the way that we had them ranked
Speaker 1: to how they came off the board. You know, so
Speaker 1: some teams, everybody does it different. Some teams stack the
Speaker 1: board just for them in how they see it and
Speaker 1: who fits them, you know. So there may be some
Speaker 1: good players that are not on your board because it
Speaker 1: doesn't fit your scheme, and you have some teams that
Speaker 1: stack it based on Okay, this is how we think
Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, come off the board, and for us,
Speaker 1: we stack it for us. You know, we don't care
Speaker 1: what everybody else think. We stacked the board for us.
Speaker 1: And as we're sitting there and we're watching, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was I mean, I think everybody felt Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: was going number one, so you knew that how that
Speaker 1: was gonna go. But then as we started going positionally
Speaker 1: you're looking and they were just coming off, you know,
Speaker 1: the exact way we predicted it to, which which is
Speaker 1: ultimately what led us, you know, in the second round
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, you know, to take big sweat, you
Speaker 1: know there, and what I like to do, you know,
Speaker 1: particularly with miss Amy and Kenneth, is you know, leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, like, hey, come on in, let
Speaker 1: us show you the board and here and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk through every position and this is where
Speaker 1: we think. This is how it's gonna go. And we
Speaker 1: got to the second round. We met earlier that morning
Speaker 1: and it was like, Hey, this is what I think.
Speaker 1: This is how the second round is gonna unfold. Once
Speaker 1: this team here is gonna pick this, and then once
Speaker 1: they picked this, it's gonna be a run at this position,
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna be a run here, and then
Speaker 1: it'll be this, and then once this person goes there's
Speaker 1: gonna be another run. And it just went exactly.
Speaker 6: I didn't know if you meant every whoever's a part
Speaker 6: of the entire draft process. You guys all kind of
Speaker 6: accurately saw it the same versus you're like, all the
Speaker 6: times you've been in the with all the different teams
Speaker 6: in all different.
Speaker 1: Years, I'll tell you what is different pages. There's I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure there's been other times in my career, but
Speaker 1: the one that comes to mind for me the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen, I say, the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever seen all the scouts and all the coaches have
Speaker 1: the exact same grade and thought on a player was
Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein when he came out of Wisconsin and I
Speaker 1: was at the RAMS and we took him in the
Speaker 1: second round. He had consistently the same grade by every
Speaker 1: single person in our organization. That that was the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen it. I don't I can't remember
Speaker 1: seeing it recently and again. And sometimes it's I mean,
Speaker 1: most of our grades are color you know, they're color
Speaker 1: based with the number and decimal system in between. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you have like everybody thinks, this guy is a
Speaker 1: red starter, this guy's gonna be a good starter for
Speaker 1: a long time. Red is good?
Speaker 4: Is it the best color? No?
Speaker 1: Blue? Blue chip? Yeah? Blue is blue is the you know,
Speaker 1: And a lot of times, yeah, a lot of times
Speaker 1: we talk in colors, right, hey man, this guy is
Speaker 1: a red player, he's a blue player, and so we
Speaker 1: talking colors. And so sometimes even within the red, the
Speaker 1: red grade, it's like a couple of couple of decimals,
Speaker 1: So it's different levels of red. But then to have
Speaker 1: for every single body, every single person to have the
Speaker 1: same exact number grade in color grade on on a
Speaker 1: guy was It was like a cool thing to see.
Speaker 4: You know how you can figure out exactly what the
Speaker 4: draft is going to happen. You just hire as the mentalist.
Speaker 1: You know what. I didn't see the clip, but I
Speaker 1: see all his I'm a big YouTube short guy because
Speaker 1: I don't have social media, and so I see all
Speaker 1: his stuff and I just think it'll be so dope
Speaker 1: to hope he's watching. Uh to have him come in
Speaker 1: during camp?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, who else he's Yeah, he's he showed you
Speaker 4: see he predicted the first thirteen picks.
Speaker 6: No, bro, No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 4: Oh he like did? I think it was the Raiders
Speaker 4: And he was like Raiders brought bours at thirteen and
Speaker 4: then he had a small little sheet next to us
Speaker 4: are unraveling. It was like trade here this pic, this pick,
Speaker 4: this pick, every single pick, the first thirteen picks.
Speaker 1: Someone has that he's going to have to be our consultant.
Speaker 4: Yeah he comes in, Lets WoT year, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They're going to pick this guy. But he has to
Speaker 4: do it an elaboratory single time.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how funny it would be just to
Speaker 1: show him in our draft room standing over Cali and
Speaker 1: I shoulder, like the camera, Yeah, bro, this this is
Speaker 1: our secret weapons.
Speaker 4: Finally it's like, this is your pick. It's like he
Speaker 4: was right, Yeah, it was our pick.
Speaker 6: Dude. What was your thought on the Atlanta Falcons taking
Speaker 6: Pinnix GM chair. You kind of see too the video
Speaker 6: of the owner talking to Terry the GM and people
Speaker 6: are kind of like saying whatever, like, oh wonder what
Speaker 6: this conversation?
Speaker 1: That's I kid you not like we had a we
Speaker 1: had an inkling that that was going to happen, that
Speaker 1: they were going to take him. You got to understand
Speaker 1: our assistant GM, Anthony Robinson, he just came from Atlanta,
Speaker 1: so he spent his whole career in Atlanta. I started
Speaker 1: my career in Atlanta, you know, with him, So you
Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for how things are done organizationally,
Speaker 1: regardless of who's running it. But we we probably about
Speaker 1: two weeks prior we were we were sitting around, we
Speaker 1: were talking about all them. We called it team Needs
Speaker 1: and we're kind of going through it, and we were
Speaker 1: like quarterback, and it was like, so you start playing with it,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of became clear. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: like they really could go pandis right here. And so
Speaker 1: when it happened, I wish you could see, like our room,
Speaker 1: we kind of like a couple of us kind of
Speaker 1: looked at each other like so it wasn't a real
Speaker 1: surprise to us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, how do you Obviously there are so many variables,
Speaker 6: but as a GM, like how do you see that
Speaker 6: pick for like Atlanta? I mean it's a wild question.
Speaker 6: How do you feel that?
Speaker 1: No, under I mean I understand. Yeah, I understand, because
Speaker 1: you you always have to have a plan for the future,
Speaker 1: and that's at every position, right. I mean I can
Speaker 1: remember because you study other people's drafts, right, you study
Speaker 1: how people do it, you know, organizationally, teams that like
Speaker 1: like Seattle with John Schneider, they've done a good job
Speaker 1: of always staying you know ahead. Mickey Loomis in New
Speaker 1: Orleans is usually the first one that comes to mind
Speaker 1: for me, especially when they were rolling. They had Drew
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton was there. They always drafted a year
Speaker 1: ahead of a need, so you had a young guy there.
Speaker 1: You think back when they had Jeremy Shockey, they draft
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham in the third. You know, all the those
Speaker 1: times they had, you know, guys up front. I remember
Speaker 1: when they took Andre's Pete played them at guard early,
Speaker 1: then he became the tackle. Like they they always drafted
Speaker 1: year ahead of need. They did it at corner, they
Speaker 1: did it at receiver, they did it at running back,
Speaker 1: where you might look heavy at that position. But then
Speaker 1: the next year they move on from a guy or
Speaker 1: guys a free agent, they don't pay them, and then
Speaker 1: they got the next guy already he's already been in
Speaker 1: the system for a year, and now you just step
Speaker 1: into your row.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, it feels like to be
Speaker 6: in that spot of being able to draft the head.
Speaker 6: You have to do so well in the drafts, you know,
Speaker 6: leading up to it, like you hit on guys, you
Speaker 6: have a good room, because if not, you have a
Speaker 6: glaring hole that it's like, well, we can't really afford
Speaker 6: the draft to head.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they tell you all the time, like when
Speaker 1: you're coming up in this business and you're learning, like
Speaker 1: the draft is where it happens, is where you really
Speaker 1: build your team, and you know you you cut your
Speaker 1: teeth and you you make your way building through the drafts,
Speaker 1: you know, because it gives you, you know, such leeway,
Speaker 1: like we don't we're not able to make the free
Speaker 1: agent moves we made if we have to pay our
Speaker 1: quarterback fifty million, you know, right, So we got a good,
Speaker 1: you know, promising young quarterback who's on a rookie deal.
Speaker 1: What gives us more room to kind of build around him? Now?
Speaker 1: Prayer forly. You know he's gonna flip soon, and you
Speaker 1: know he plays extremely well and you know his his
Speaker 1: contract you know, shows that. And so now it's back
Speaker 1: to us building through the draft because we're going to
Speaker 1: have to surround him with young talented players because you
Speaker 1: can't go out and pay you know, everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: especially with the with the with the cost of doing
Speaker 1: business now, you know, you can't afford to pay everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're going through the draft and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of owners want to be
Speaker 4: more part of it or less a part of it
Speaker 4: and kind of give their opinion more oftentimes than not.
Speaker 4: How is miss Amy when it comes to the draft,
Speaker 4: How does she handle it?
Speaker 1: She's the best because miss Amy is miss Amy. She trusts.
Speaker 1: When she hires you to do a job, she trusts
Speaker 1: you to do the job. And so she doesn't come
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, no, let's make this guy number one,
Speaker 1: or I like this guy more. She just wants to
Speaker 1: know the why. And so that's why we do a
Speaker 1: good job. I think of over communicating with her. And
Speaker 1: we bring her in a couple of days before the
Speaker 1: draft and we show her the entire board. Here's why,
Speaker 1: you know, we like this guy, here's where we think
Speaker 1: this guy can fit. And it's just a group of
Speaker 1: us in the room. We close the door, we lock it,
Speaker 1: and we're in there for a couple of hours and
Speaker 1: we explain the whole board to her and again, and
Speaker 1: when once she sees it and she sees how it's unfolding,
Speaker 1: and it's unfolding the way you said it would, and
Speaker 1: now she has a little bit more trust in you,
Speaker 1: you know, and so she just she trusts us to
Speaker 1: do our job, which is the best.
Speaker 4: Have you seen it the other way where owners come
Speaker 4: in and they're a little more won their finger on
Speaker 4: the pulseter want to make the decision.
Speaker 1: Well not because I've been with what four clubs, I've
Speaker 1: never seen it to where the owners lie like, hey,
Speaker 1: we should take this guy. But I've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen it where the owner not only wants to
Speaker 1: know the why, but he's like are we sure? Or
Speaker 1: if a player goes like, hey, why didn't we take
Speaker 1: this guy? You know, I've seen that you know that
Speaker 1: question before, But I've never been in a place where
Speaker 1: the owners like, you know, hey, I watched tape last
Speaker 1: night and I like this kid.
Speaker 6: Do they come do?
Speaker 4: A lot of the owners come in kind of well
Speaker 4: versed in what's going on in that first round?
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, And I think I think I'm not
Speaker 1: going to make it seem like we're the only ones
Speaker 1: that communicate with our owner, because I think all gms
Speaker 1: communicate with their owner and what they like. But I
Speaker 1: think everybody informs their owners of hey, here the here
Speaker 1: the pot of guys that we like at this pick,
Speaker 1: and so they're aware. I won't give our secrets of
Speaker 1: what we do, but I miss Amy's well informed. You know,
Speaker 1: every guy heading into to the draft.
Speaker 6: How do you feel like your role as GM has
Speaker 6: developed from year one to year two, because you've obviously
Speaker 6: had a different you had very last year. You have
Speaker 6: Callahan this year, talk about those relationships, talk about how
Speaker 6: your rules developed. As a GM.
Speaker 1: I think my role has developed. It's just developed more
Speaker 1: because I'm more comfortable. I have another, you know, a
Speaker 1: year doing it last year. Last year, I couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: doing it without Rapes, you know, because he was He's
Speaker 1: a vet, you know, one of the smartest you know,
Speaker 1: football minds I've ever been around. And just having him
Speaker 1: there to bounce things off of, you know, because I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't give them what position you're in. You've never
Speaker 1: done it till you've done it. You know, you can
Speaker 1: read every book there is. You know, I can go
Speaker 1: and read every book there is on how to play basketball,
Speaker 1: but I've never played basketball till I've been out there
Speaker 1: on that court. And and so that's how it was
Speaker 1: for me in a GM spot. But I had a
Speaker 1: guy in Mike that I can go and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: like how does this part work? You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you know about this? And so this year I'm
Speaker 1: more comfortable because there are more things that have come up,
Speaker 1: like okay, like I know how to handle that and
Speaker 1: you know, go through that phase of it. But that's
Speaker 1: the that's really it. Like the more time on task,
Speaker 1: the more comfortable you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Be with Mike and his departure from the Titans, it
Speaker 4: seemed a little bit abrupt because I think as a
Speaker 4: as a fan base, Jackie McPherson with the Titans hat
Speaker 4: in the back, he's been a longtime Titans fan. A
Speaker 4: lot of people were saying like, oh, okay, we obviously
Speaker 4: have issues because we're not wanting a whole lot of
Speaker 4: games and Mike's not the problem. And then shortly after
Speaker 4: the season end, Mike, Mike is gone. How was that
Speaker 4: transition for y'all? How how are those discussions?
Speaker 1: For what you can say, I'd say it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was tough. That day was really tough. I speak personally.
Speaker 1: It was one of those you know, and this is
Speaker 1: just being full transparent, you know. When it happened, I
Speaker 1: called my wife and I was like, hey, like this
Speaker 1: this just happened. And the first thing my wife says is,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to call Rea, which is my daughter.
Speaker 1: And I'm like why She was like, because she doesn't
Speaker 1: need to hear that coach got fired from one of
Speaker 1: the kids in school, you know, because my kids don't
Speaker 1: have social media, and so my daughter had a really
Speaker 1: close relationship with Mike. And if you look on her
Speaker 1: screensaver on her phone right now, it's a picture of
Speaker 1: her and Mike, you know, and that hasn't changed. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, not only to have that happen to him,
Speaker 1: but to now I got to communicate this to my daughter,
Speaker 1: you know, and then to have my he's now seven
Speaker 1: year old son who he thinks he's the GM and
Speaker 1: the owner and the head coach. He legitimately when he
Speaker 1: got out of school, my wife told him and he
Speaker 1: was like, like, what are you doing? Like my son
Speaker 1: said this to me, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: so it was tough, you know, it was tough. And
Speaker 1: then to you know, go out out and you know,
Speaker 1: you again, I'm not on social media, but you can
Speaker 1: feel heat, you know what I mean? You can you
Speaker 1: can feel heat. And I knew what it was, but
Speaker 1: I also knew that it was, you know, unfortunate that
Speaker 1: it happened. And I and and again listen, Mike will
Speaker 1: be coaching at no time. You know, he'll be back
Speaker 1: on the sideline in no time. And he's going to
Speaker 1: do well wherever he goes, because that's just in his
Speaker 1: DNA and who he is. But you know, I knew
Speaker 1: after that happened, it was no time to sit back
Speaker 1: and soak and you know, lick your wounds. It was like,
Speaker 1: we have to deliver the next guy, you know, and
Speaker 1: how and it was a man that happened on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: And literally you work through Tuesday night putting the list together.
Speaker 1: And mind you, I've never interviewed a head coach before,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So then now yeah, and
Speaker 1: so now it's like you spend you spend Tuesday identifying
Speaker 1: a list, right, and that's a lot of convers stations
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. You do that until Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and then you get the request out to the clubs
Speaker 1: because it's that time of year everybody's trying to interview.
Speaker 1: And then you spend all day Wednesday, all night Wednesday,
Speaker 1: all through Thursday putting the structure in the interview together,
Speaker 1: also scheduling interviews, and then boom, Friday, you have your
Speaker 1: first interview, you know what I mean. And so oddly enough,
Speaker 1: CALLI was our first interview, and so you try to
Speaker 1: for me personally, I was like, you know, we need
Speaker 1: to be ahead of the curve, you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to it we need to be ahead of the
Speaker 1: whole hiring cycle because there were so many jobs open,
Speaker 1: and we were like, you don't want to get behind
Speaker 1: in this phase. And so we were you know, we
Speaker 1: were very detailed and you know, we took a really
Speaker 1: good approach to it. You know. However, it was like
Speaker 1: it was pretty clear, you know, once we with Cali
Speaker 1: that he was the guy.
Speaker 6: I got a two part question as you were experiencing
Speaker 6: the interview process for the first time, what do you
Speaker 6: feel like ended up being the most important question in
Speaker 6: the interview? And then the second question is what jumped
Speaker 6: out about Cali? That was like, we can't really let
Speaker 6: him hypothetically leave the building.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think the biggest thing for me, And
Speaker 1: again I've been around Rabes, I've been around Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: I've been around Jeff Fisher, been around Sean McVay. These
Speaker 1: guys are excellent at situational football, you know, just overall
Speaker 1: just situations of the game. And so it was talking
Speaker 1: about concepts like that, you know, in the interview, but
Speaker 1: then you follow it up with who's your coaching staff?
Speaker 1: Who's your coaching staff going to be? And again, anybody
Speaker 1: can come in and say, you know, I'm gonna hire
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi be my head coach, Bill Belichick's gonna be
Speaker 1: the decordinator, and Bill Walsh is gonna be my offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: You know, but who can you really deliver? And the
Speaker 1: one thing that stood out with CALLI was he had
Speaker 1: a depth chart of coaches. And I'm not saying when
Speaker 1: I say a depth chart, I don't and he literally
Speaker 1: had a three deep. But it wasn't just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I want this guy, and if I can't get this guy,
Speaker 1: then this guy's the backup, and if I can't get him,
Speaker 1: do this. No, he had these are three tier one,
Speaker 1: here's three tier two, here's three tier three. And he
Speaker 1: had that for every single position. And so you knew
Speaker 1: looking at that, like this guy's put a lot of
Speaker 1: thought process into this, you know, and he's well thought out.
Speaker 1: He's well researched. And I can say, because I was
Speaker 1: looking at it the other day, like we legitimately got
Speaker 1: number one on every one of his positions.
Speaker 4: Damn he had his old man.
Speaker 1: He did not. He did not have his old man
Speaker 1: on the list. He was And I talked in the interview,
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, elephant in the room. What's
Speaker 1: up with pops? Are we trying to heat And he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, honestly, we haven't had the conversation.
Speaker 1: He said, we talked about it briefly last year and
Speaker 1: just ultimately decided that it wasn't the best thing. And
Speaker 1: he was like, we haven't had the conversation. Man.
Speaker 4: That's perfectly aligned with what he said, because he had
Speaker 4: said the same thing, like when the opportunity might have
Speaker 4: come up last year, his dad was essentially like no.
Speaker 4: And then after when he gets this job, his dad
Speaker 4: calls me. I was all, think about it without even
Speaker 4: any context.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, about it.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I've because I I called Bill,
Speaker 1: I called him big coach. I've asked big coach. You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, there was it ever a thing, because
Speaker 1: I know from my dad my dad always wanted to
Speaker 1: coach me, and my dad ended up being my position
Speaker 1: coach in Dallas and that lasted two weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was like this is not gonna work. Is
Speaker 1: and it didn't work. But you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: he said, Bill told me. He said. It wasn't until
Speaker 1: I watched this press conference that I really started thinking
Speaker 1: about it really yeah, he said, it wasn't until he
Speaker 1: watched the press.
Speaker 4: His press call was a little bit emotional talking about
Speaker 4: his wife and everything, and it was really cool to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said this, and you know, when
Speaker 1: you guys come around like this coaching staff is it's
Speaker 1: it's something man like the defensive staff they are they're
Speaker 1: their own people, and our offensive staff and just you know,
Speaker 1: just to be through the building and the energy and
Speaker 1: the juice you know that's in the building, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's just been cool. And again, you I know
Speaker 1: some of these guys because I've worked with them, and
Speaker 1: a lot of guys I don't know. But I mean
Speaker 1: we're a couple of months in and it feels like
Speaker 1: I've known these dudes forever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you feel like that was that was one that's
Speaker 6: been one of the bigger differences, the juice and energy
Speaker 6: with the staff and in the building.
Speaker 1: Well, I say this, I say the I know when
Speaker 1: CALLI was putting his staff together, and the cool you
Speaker 1: know thing that he afforded me was he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to just hire people, right, just
Speaker 1: hire my buddies. He was like, I want you to
Speaker 1: feel good about the coaches that I want. He was like,
Speaker 1: so let's interview them. And he was like, I want
Speaker 1: you in the interview to ask as many questions, you know.
Speaker 1: And so everybody that we brought in, like I was
Speaker 1: a part of interviewing them and getting to know them.
Speaker 1: And so you feel that. But the one thing that
Speaker 1: CALLI talks about a lot is connectiveness. And he was like,
Speaker 1: in our staff, we have to be the example of
Speaker 1: that for our locker room, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so it's those guys are always together, never not together,
Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, it's just a cool
Speaker 1: group of dudes, and it's competitive as competitive as hell.
Speaker 1: We even have like a four thirty workout group with
Speaker 1: our strength coach, and it's like anywhere from ten to
Speaker 1: twelve of us at four thirty. And listen, when I'm
Speaker 1: out there, it looks pitiful, you know, like running hundreds
Speaker 1: and you know, all these things. But it's another way
Speaker 1: for us to connect, you know, and build together. And
Speaker 1: I think the players see it, you know, and feel like,
Speaker 1: hey man, these dudes are really together and they're not
Speaker 1: just talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sick to see that. You guys are gonna
Speaker 4: line because it seems like that's always like a main
Speaker 4: thing of the downfall of a program, whether it's college
Speaker 4: or NFL, like the ad and the head coach don't
Speaker 4: get along, that falls apart, and then inevitably both of
Speaker 4: them are on and with you and Kelly, it just
Speaker 4: seems like just hearing you guys both talk. So because
Speaker 4: we've shot these episodes within what two days. Hearing you
Speaker 4: guys both talk, you seem so aligned on the vision
Speaker 4: and what you guys want to do. But it took
Speaker 4: a lot to get there. You look at the end
Speaker 4: of this past season and you're looking at a pretty
Speaker 4: destroyed roster. The King leaves, you know, you're missing a
Speaker 4: lot of pieces, and it's essentially like an everest to
Speaker 4: build up. And now we're sitting in the middle of May,
Speaker 4: and you guys are the Titans are in the best
Speaker 4: position in the world because you look at the power
Speaker 4: rankings of the NFL and everyone thinks you guys are shit.
Speaker 4: But if I were to read you a list of
Speaker 4: your roster and you'd say, is this team gonna be
Speaker 4: good or bad? Just talent alone, It's like these boys
Speaker 4: can come. They got something cooking over there. So truly
Speaker 4: the best position you can possibly be in in May
Speaker 4: before the coming up football season. Like, what when you
Speaker 4: were looking at this big project going into twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: where was the starting point for y'all?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the starting point it didn't start when
Speaker 1: Cali got here, you know what I mean, because the
Speaker 1: free agency work, the free agency part, it was, the
Speaker 1: front end of the work was done in December, you know,
Speaker 1: with the staff that we have, and so when Cali
Speaker 1: came obviously scheme changes, so some players are shifted in
Speaker 1: move like okay, this guy fits better, you know now,
Speaker 1: And so that's the that's the adjustment. The cool thing
Speaker 1: that him and his staff did when they came in.
Speaker 1: They we all met all our scouts and we're lucky
Speaker 1: because all of our college scouts lived here in town,
Speaker 1: and so we had our whole staff and the whole
Speaker 1: coaching staff. And then they showed us. They put highlight
Speaker 1: tapes together positional profiles. Hey, look, I want my left
Speaker 1: tackle to look like this. This height, this weight, this
Speaker 1: arm length, this speed. Here are the traits that we're
Speaker 1: looking for with the examples right, and so now you know,
Speaker 1: we get to see it. We get to see the visual. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: now we know what they're looking for in each one
Speaker 1: of these positions on the team, and it makes it
Speaker 1: easier for us to go hunt and go find it.
Speaker 1: So that makes our job easier. But just even looking
Speaker 1: at it, it's like, you know, obviously to you know, uh,
Speaker 1: lose a player like Derek, Like that was the number
Speaker 1: one question I got the most when I was around town, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: better than I let Derek leave? Or what's going on
Speaker 1: with Derek? Like I understand the magnitude of that because
Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, prior to coming here, when
Speaker 1: you thought about the Tennessee Titans, you thought about Mike Rabel,
Speaker 1: you thought about Dereck Henry, you know, and Taylor la One,
Speaker 1: you know, and so cornerstone you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Cornerstone people chargers, and so you know that's these guys
Speaker 1: are are are identifying factors for this football team and
Speaker 1: the way the football team played, and so you want
Speaker 1: to keep some of that. But then it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: how are we going to build this in Cali's image?
Speaker 1: And what is it gonna take for his scheme? And
Speaker 1: so you have to make the tough decisions, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and you have to be aligned, you know,
Speaker 1: in those decisions, and so we start piecing it together.
Speaker 1: And then again you and you hear me talk about
Speaker 1: it a lot is relationships, you know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at our free agency class, there are relationships
Speaker 1: all along the way. You get a Calvin Ridley because
Speaker 1: you have a relationship, you know, or I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna say we had a relationship. We created one, you know,
Speaker 1: out of thin air. And being able to just be
Speaker 1: relatable is what got him here. You know, cheat oh
Speaker 1: Bay he was with Cali for how many years in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: so he kind of knows what the program is going
Speaker 1: to be. You know. Tony Pollard's from Memphis, you know,
Speaker 1: wanted the opportunity to raise his kids, you know, at home,
Speaker 1: you know where he grew up. Gives you a leg up,
Speaker 1: you know, all these things, you know, coming to play,
Speaker 1: and like I said, this city in this state is
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's slept On. You know, it's
Speaker 1: slept On. I've never been anywhere in the in the
Speaker 1: National Football League where all your scouts lived in the
Speaker 1: town like that is an that's a one competitive advantage.
Speaker 1: And then think about just historically you weren't drafted here,
Speaker 1: But where do you live now?
Speaker 6: In Nashville.
Speaker 1: Every player that comes here, whether they were drafted here,
Speaker 1: signed a long term deal or a one year deal,
Speaker 1: they come here and they stay. Yeah, and so it's weird.
Speaker 6: You see a lot of the tight ends too, and
Speaker 6: the off season kid on them.
Speaker 1: Like everybody comes here. So it's a competitive advantage and
Speaker 1: we just put ourselves in position to take advantage of that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And like you said when
Speaker 1: we were walking up to the bus, like it's like
Speaker 1: an unwritten thing with this city, you know. And we'll
Speaker 1: say higher profile people like those people feel comfortable here.
Speaker 1: The people in the city show you love, but they
Speaker 1: respect your space. And so everybody here you feel a
Speaker 1: part of the community. I'm leaving my daughter's flag football
Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago, and I looked at
Speaker 1: my wife and I was like, of all the places
Speaker 1: we've ever lived, like, I feel a part of the
Speaker 1: community here when I'm at her games. My standing with
Speaker 1: the team, none of that matters. I'm just one of
Speaker 1: the crazy dads in the stands giving the refs. Hell,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't have to
Speaker 1: wear Titans GM hat. I'm just Rhya's dad, you know,
Speaker 1: at the game, and I'm cheering, like my daughter's team
Speaker 1: they won, They won a championship for the third year
Speaker 1: in a row for a girl's flag, and I'm standing
Speaker 1: on the top of the stands screaming three peat and
Speaker 1: got the crowd going. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like my daughter hurt her back in one of the
Speaker 1: tournament games. I'm down there stretching her out, you know
Speaker 1: what i mean. Like, I'm just being a dad, and
Speaker 1: I think this city is what allows that to happen.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have to always feel on if you will,
Speaker 1: I could just be one of the people. And that
Speaker 1: is a true competitive vantish about being here when.
Speaker 4: You look at you, Bob, Calvin Ridley, and I think
Speaker 4: when I think that Calvin Ridley obviously is an awesome
Speaker 4: talent and wrongly accused for gambling as well, but that's
Speaker 4: a different story. He goes from the Jags to hear
Speaker 4: and during this press conference he's like, honestly, I want
Speaker 4: to stay with the Jaguars as you see that as
Speaker 4: a pro or a con when hearing that statement, because
Speaker 4: to me, it's like, now, you know two times a year.
Speaker 4: He's got those, he's got those games circled because they
Speaker 4: you get in your delusional football mind that we've all
Speaker 4: had use that as oh, they didn't want me, when
Speaker 4: maybe the number was just a little too big.
Speaker 1: No, I'll be I'll be perfectly honest with you. Everything
Speaker 1: was comparable, you know. And he had the he had
Speaker 1: the option to go back, whether the numbers. I'm good,
Speaker 1: appreciate the offer though Southern hospitality. He had the option
Speaker 1: to go wherever he wanted to go. But I think
Speaker 1: it's more of a positive in that we made him comfortable,
Speaker 1: you know, coming here, and then the lesson of the
Speaker 1: deal was again here Nashville, Tennessee. His wife's family from Huntsville.
Speaker 1: I got to know that right down the road, you know,
Speaker 1: makes it an easy transition for her to still be
Speaker 1: Now you're closer to your family, you know. And so
Speaker 1: it again competitive advantage being here in Nashville.
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Speaker 1: Don't know where this is going.
Speaker 6: I think you'll have fun with it. But your tear
Speaker 6: talk of your the best like scouted players you've seen
Speaker 6: in your years, in.
Speaker 1: My years, Uh, I'm gonna say that I was of
Speaker 1: the teams that I played for. And I know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get hell for this because I have a lot
Speaker 1: of good relationships with all these dudes.
Speaker 4: Started three.
Speaker 6: If there's one that you're like, damn, he doesn't make it,
Speaker 6: but shout him out, that's an honorables all right.
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and it's it's the I'll give you
Speaker 1: the little synopsis behind it. I'll say damn, all right.
Speaker 1: Three Todd Gurley coming off of torn a c L.
Speaker 1: I thought he was still the best player in that
Speaker 1: draft class and just was what it was, and he
Speaker 1: had that show run in the league. But man, he
Speaker 1: was explosive and dynamic. And the problem Number two Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa outside of my number one, I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever seen anybody play with the type of hand use,
Speaker 1: you know, in leverage he has. Nick has this unique thing.
Speaker 1: And you know Taylor as a tackle to be able
Speaker 1: to catch the elbow and catch the wrists at like
Speaker 1: a super high rate, like it's his hand eye is unreal.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Number one, Aaron Donald, I think that was easy, man, child,
Speaker 1: goat if you will. Uh. What I was going to
Speaker 1: add in before I thought about one was Fred Warner honorable? Mentioned?
Speaker 1: What makes Fred to me is Fred never played in
Speaker 1: the box in college. He was like a big nickel
Speaker 1: where he aligned over the slot. And you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to Robert Salah and Demico Ryans. They had a
Speaker 1: vision for being able to put him in in the box.
Speaker 1: Third round pick, rookie starting at mike, making all the
Speaker 1: calls and all the checks. And obviously Fred is Fred
Speaker 1: is Fred, you know. And when the schedule came out
Speaker 1: the other day, my son, my oldest, shout out to
Speaker 1: my boys Roman and Reese. Roman says, So when we
Speaker 1: played the Niners in the preseason, Can I wear my
Speaker 1: Fred Warner jersey? And I'm like, I was like, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, you call Fred because he's my son. Is
Speaker 1: boys with Fred, like they talk all the time. I say,
Speaker 1: you call Fred, and then Fred get you tickets and
Speaker 1: you sit with Fred's family, then yes you could wear
Speaker 1: your Fred So by all means, but those would be
Speaker 1: my four shout out to d I think he created
Speaker 1: a position in football, and I think he he helped
Speaker 1: usher in a new way of what we call positionless football.
Speaker 1: You know that I've been a part of. Damn. I
Speaker 1: left Big trend Out.
Speaker 4: I was thinking I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: I left Big trend Out.
Speaker 4: Arguably the best player in the league a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he's yeah, he's you see him
Speaker 1: do stuff and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, like that against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that I didn't want to, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm glad it wasn't. It wasn't Isaiah Simmons. I
Speaker 1: won't say I wasn't. No, I know who it was,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say his name. We'll say
Speaker 1: it right, No.
Speaker 4: Pull it up, pull it up. Well, just were not
Speaker 4: talking about it, but just pull up Williams because that
Speaker 4: not only is that an extreme explosion and I'm amazing
Speaker 4: content contact, it's also one of those deals where to
Speaker 4: take the risks to run full speed at a linebacker
Speaker 4: and hope you hit them. But he's a crazy that's
Speaker 4: a crazy look at him, just man?
Speaker 1: Was that like, you don't expect a human of that
Speaker 1: size to get on you that.
Speaker 4: We're in a four eight.
Speaker 6: Forty not bad body ball, but he is truly mentor
Speaker 6: You know this.
Speaker 4: Do you do this cat personally?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been doing it. You've been doing an amazing
Speaker 4: job of not saying names. Yeah, like that's your you're
Speaker 4: pros pro in that way.
Speaker 6: Do what's the most fascinating thing or something that you
Speaker 6: experienced in the front office world that you think players
Speaker 6: would be intrigued to know.
Speaker 1: Most intrigued and fascinating.
Speaker 6: Whether it has to do with contracts.
Speaker 1: So I just think learning the business and the one
Speaker 1: thing we hear and I'm sure you guys will say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: it's the business. I hate that term because I think
Speaker 1: saying it's a business, for lack of a better way
Speaker 1: to say it, I feel it's a cop out because
Speaker 1: it doesn't allow you to deal with the emotion of
Speaker 1: what you're feeling. And I think you're allowed to feel
Speaker 1: a certain type of way. But when you say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's a business, then that gives
Speaker 1: you that cop out of like okay, like it's supposed
Speaker 1: to happen. But I think if if more guys were
Speaker 1: in my position to have exposure to how the business works,
Speaker 1: and they would understand like, oh okay, I see it
Speaker 1: clearing now, like myself, Like, and I'm sure you felt
Speaker 1: the same way as fellow undrafted guys. You first round
Speaker 1: guys don't have nothing.
Speaker 6: He's got the red blue cardsdrafted cards. Hours, yeah, just
Speaker 6: white like.
Speaker 1: That was me.
Speaker 6: Will come.
Speaker 4: Do you remember evaluating Will Compton?
Speaker 1: I wrote you, I will find the report, and I
Speaker 1: was I would text it to right, but I will
Speaker 1: tell you this. When I was doing my draft process,
Speaker 1: like again, I'm realistic, I know what it was, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm at least a third rounder, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm at least a third rounder.
Speaker 1: And then I remember, no, you can't make this up.
Speaker 1: I got a call in the fifth round from a team,
Speaker 1: says we're taking you with our next pick. And I'm
Speaker 1: in the room and I'm with my now wife, and
Speaker 1: my mom and my brother were in the living room,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, okay, cool, like I'm excited.
Speaker 1: And my wife had just got accepted into grad school
Speaker 1: in that same city, and so I was like, this
Speaker 1: is perfect. And I got up to go tell my
Speaker 1: mom and I was like, you know, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: me see it on TV. Yeah, And I sit there
Speaker 1: and they announced the pick and it wasn't me, and
Speaker 1: I look at her and then the team called right
Speaker 1: back last minute we decided to Oh and long story short,
Speaker 1: I don't think that player made it through the season
Speaker 1: with him because I ended up playing with him somewhere
Speaker 1: else and so like and hen I end up becoming
Speaker 1: really good friends. But a man I had smoked for him.
Speaker 4: Bro fifth round too, walking through, walking down.
Speaker 1: But again I thought I was going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: wanted to be a first rounder.
Speaker 6: Right, but at least and you played too, like, you know, hey,
Speaker 6: we could be one of those like Bill Belichick just
Speaker 6: randomly draft somebody in the higher rounds and just come
Speaker 6: out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: And listen, I had I had I knew what the
Speaker 1: signing bonus was going to be, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is how we gonna allocate the money and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, planning it out.
Speaker 6: And now, dude, you play with your You played four
Speaker 6: your dad for two weeks in Dallas off the heat
Speaker 6: and he cut you.
Speaker 1: No. Luckily enough, I had got cut by Indy. This
Speaker 1: was my rookie year. I would Dallas on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: My dad was my running back coach. Our running back
Speaker 1: room was Eddie George Julius Jones was their second round
Speaker 1: pick that year. We had Richie Anderson. Yeah that was awful.
Speaker 1: That was like my worst football experience. Me and my
Speaker 1: dad got into a fight. Now it wasn't at like
Speaker 1: we had a We went back and forth on the
Speaker 1: field to the point where Parcels was like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's enough, and so I can tell this story. It's funny.
Speaker 1: But my dad shout out to Frank Paranho because he
Speaker 1: loves his story.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: My dad was chirping across the field with chirping back
Speaker 1: and forth, and so Richie is like, hey, little bro,
Speaker 1: like come on, man, like you know Dad loves you.
Speaker 1: So I say some choice words about that, and then
Speaker 1: my dad yells across, Hey, Richie slapping. So I yelled back,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you slap me. Yeah, So whatever, I
Speaker 1: go home and now I'm like, I'm gonna know the
Speaker 1: whole playbook. Like he's never gonna be able to say
Speaker 1: nothing to me. I'm gonna know it better than him.
Speaker 1: Mind you, I'm living with him, right I'm on the couch.
Speaker 1: I'm on the couch and I'm highlighting and taking notes
Speaker 1: and I'm tearing this playbook up. And so I doze
Speaker 1: off and I'm sleep and I hear the door open.
Speaker 1: But my cousin lived there too, so I was like,
Speaker 1: it's just Chris. Then now I'm like oh, and I
Speaker 1: look up and my dad standing over me, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I slapped you, now what? And so I started laughing
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's like, what you laughing for? You?
Speaker 1: You said slap you? I slapped you. You didn't do nothing,
Speaker 1: Now what I was like, I won? He was like,
Speaker 1: how did you win? I was like, because it's been
Speaker 1: on your mind ever since I said it. And I'm
Speaker 1: like I was like, and you know what, I was like,
Speaker 1: now you better take your ass back to the office
Speaker 1: before Parcelles finds out you not there. I was like,
Speaker 1: and I will call him right now and tell him
Speaker 1: to you better get your ass back to the He
Speaker 1: was and then literally like that was like, uh, that
Speaker 1: was like a Thursday. That happened Wednesday or Thursday. And
Speaker 1: then the following week the coach called to bring me
Speaker 1: back on the roster, and so my they sent my
Speaker 1: dad home to like talk me into stand and my
Speaker 1: dad was like, son, you gotta go. He was like,
Speaker 1: because not only is this gonna give your opportunity to
Speaker 1: actually play, he was like, but for the sake of
Speaker 1: our relationship, you gotta get the hell out of here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't jac or Joel, who would it be.
Speaker 1: We'll talk off.
Speaker 6: Before we let him go, because he's got a roll. Uh,
Speaker 6: you have a twisted question for him. He's GM's not
Speaker 6: the head man. That's a that's a that's a question
Speaker 6: specifically for the head coaches they cut their piece off
Speaker 6: for a Super Bowl? Would you.
Speaker 1: I got five kids?
Speaker 6: So you would?
Speaker 1: I said, I got five kids. So I just said
Speaker 1: I have five kids.
Speaker 6: All right, we just need you to say yes.
Speaker 1: I said, I just got we got that insurance.
Speaker 4: I got five five kids is a lot of kids.
Speaker 1: A lot.
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Speaker 8: middle seat, or you're always stuck behind the slowest car.
Speaker 6: We're sorry, Yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Know, no, I was middle seat. Give me the middle seat,
Speaker 1: and I absolutely despise the middle seat.
Speaker 6: It's never it's awful, but no, and it's not all
Speaker 6: the time you're driving like you. We try to tell
Speaker 6: them to think through these before you ask, what do
Speaker 6: you do?
Speaker 8: My answer, you're not flying as much as you're.
Speaker 4: Driving, right, Yeah, so it's a it's a middle seat
Speaker 4: on the plane, Javan Peerson. Any questions, Yeah, before we
Speaker 4: let them go.
Speaker 2: We asked Cali this question yesterday. But you being with
Speaker 2: the Titans forever year now you will understand this. Is
Speaker 2: there a way to bring back the OG pain Trained
Speaker 2: video that we play at the beginning of the fourth
Speaker 2: quarters because we changed it two years ago. The fan
Speaker 2: base needs the OG one back.
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm not familiar with the O G.
Speaker 6: Do you remember?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's Terry Tate office linebacker. He goes the
Speaker 4: pain trains coming and then does the woohoo thing and
Speaker 4: then Johnny cash fullsome prison blues, right yeah, starts playing.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it.
Speaker 4: This is awesome.
Speaker 1: I have to do.
Speaker 4: Can we bring that back?
Speaker 1: We might be able to do something.
Speaker 2: And can busting with the Boys be the twelfth Titan
Speaker 2: and swing the sword of Owner?
Speaker 1: That would be pretty sweet. I'm not gonna lie there
Speaker 1: we go. I think you guys, we have the I
Speaker 1: think the crowd will go nuts to see. Now here's
Speaker 1: the thing we have with these two. We gotta cut
Speaker 1: the mic. It's got, it's got, it's gotta be it's
Speaker 1: got to be a delay so we can at least
Speaker 1: have the Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, very fair to say. I will say this. Every
Speaker 6: college we go to, every like we were at in Atlanta,
Speaker 6: every spot organization we go to, it's like they're always like, hey,
Speaker 6: we're down for you guys to do this. We've seen
Speaker 6: some of your stuff. You could just be on your
Speaker 6: best behavior. We could. We're capable. We're capable. It will
Speaker 6: be on our best behavior.
Speaker 1: Like I said, just they might need they might the.
Speaker 6: MINSI button.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might need to have that button seven second delay.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on, no, man, I appreciate you boys.
Speaker 1: Man man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Tell you this bus and all of us in here
Speaker 4: are so excited about what the times we're doing. We're
Speaker 4: so stoked on what you've done in free agency, in
Speaker 4: the draft, all the things about jaycon Latham coming out
Speaker 4: in the to your draft has been so positive. People
Speaker 4: should be excited nation Tennessee about what's coming.
Speaker 1: This I appreciate it, man. I just think in the
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's it's our job to provide
Speaker 1: this the city in the state with something to cheer for,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's something that can identify with.
Speaker 1: So let's just stay healthy and get to September.
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a chance that we can get
Speaker 4: Will Compton a work out in October?
Speaker 6: In December?
Speaker 1: Let's say December December.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to do that. You want to
Speaker 4: do it before Thanksgiving because you know what you're doing.
Speaker 6: Work out October. Potential sign in December.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can. You can go over the
Speaker 1: Fitness nineteen. They got all the equipment you need to
Speaker 1: work out. Get you set up over.
Speaker 6: I'm actually on at Boost with a couple of your
Speaker 6: guys in the front office.
Speaker 4: Matt Miller's Mad in there. I've known Mad since he
Speaker 4: was in high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mass my guy, man, he does a hell of
Speaker 1: a job his wedding. Yes, I would be that just
Speaker 1: rs VP two weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I love it. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: For I appreciate you. That was awesome, Bro, appreciate you.
Speaker 6: We can talk all day long too, because man, you're
Speaker 6: an undrafted greeting cat