1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle, a New York Giants podcast. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest episode of the Giants Huttle Podcast. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: I am John Schmilk with Paul Latino. You can find 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the Giant Huttle Podcast on all of your favorite podcast platforms, 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com and on the Giants Mobile app. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: With the offseason upon us, we're gonna talk some draft 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: with our buddy, Tony Pauline from Pro Football Network. Tony, 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, Marry Christmas, Happy New Year. I hope your 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: holidays treated you well, my friend great give me back 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: with you guys, thanks for having me. I hope everyone 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: had a great holiday. Johnny, let me ask you something. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: When you look at these games and you know, I 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: had a personnel guy tell me, and it's got to 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: be a good thirty years ago. You know, he wants 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: to see the big time prospects, the guys who are 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: the most highly rated do their best in these biggest 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: games of their season. And I have to confess to you, 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: that's something that bothered me about Chase Young recently because 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: as Ohio State was winding down a nine oh they 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: still got some snaps to play and it's gonna be 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: something I'm looking at very carefully. He seemed to have 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot of trouble of getting that high end production 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: against Wisconsin against Penn State. How do you view the 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: big prospects in the biggest games? Do you put extra 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: emphasis on those grades. I think it's the magic. It's 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: not only the game, but the big matchup when you 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: go against the top level player. You look at say 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Farrell against John the Williams last year in the 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: National Title game, and how well Cleveland Farrell did in 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: that game. So it's not just the game, but it's 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: also when they're matched up against a top rated prospect. 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: You gotta remember with Chase Young, you know they didn't 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: have Iowa. Ohio State didn't have Iowa on the schedule 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: this year, so he missed out facing against Iowa's outstanding 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: duo of tackles and a lark Jens Jack Jackson and 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Tristan Works. So it's not just the game, but you 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: also really want to see, you know, those one on 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: one matchup Tony. I want to stay on Chase Young 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: bas Paul mentioned him specifically. Do you view him as 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: one of the best or the best pass rusher in 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: terms of prospects you've seen in the last ten years, 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: like about like a lot of other people, or do 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: you have him more in that you know, Joey Bosa 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa class with those guys. I think he's an 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: exceptional pass rusher. I think he's one of the best 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: pass rushers. I think he's a Julius Peppers type of 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: pass rusher. But being a pass rusher is just one 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: element of being a defensive end or being a defensive player. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, in the NFL, you also have to defend 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: the run. You also have to on occasion drop back 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: off the line and playing coverage, You've got to make 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: plays in space. He does well in some of those areas, 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: he's deficient in other areas. I think he's far and 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: away the best player in this year's draft. I think 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: he's got a high upside, But you know, I'm not 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna go out there and say he's, you know, the 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: best defensive end. I like to look at them as 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: complete players, not just the pass rusher, and I don't 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: think I think he's very good, but I don't think 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: he's the best defensive end that we've seen in the 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: NFL draft the past ten years. Well, Tony. I gotta 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: build off of this now, because everybody understands the Giants 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: certainly have a very strong need for a pass rusher. 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: Maybe they get it in free agency. We know they're 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of cap room, so they may 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: decide to go that way. But let's, for argument's sake, 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: just say that Chase Young is gone. Okay. Is there 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: a NFL lottery pick type of pass rusher if Young 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: is off the board when the Giants pick, or is 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: he really so far ahead of everybody else that the 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Giants need to go in another direction to get true value. 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: The Basically, it falls off a cliff after Chase Young. 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I think it falls off a cliff, not just from 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: a pass rusher point of view, but from an overall 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: player point of view. That's how much higher I haven't 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: rated than any other player in the draft. I think 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: any other pass rusher at that early part of the 78 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: draft is a bit of a reach. I do think 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: there'll be the availability to get some good pass rushers 80 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: in the second day of the AFT. But really, if 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for a pass rusher in the top five picks, 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: it's Chase young Er bust Tony. I've seen a lot 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: of people throw a lot of laurels at the offensive 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: tackle class in this draft, and the Giants, they have 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: some veteran offensive tackles they might want to try to 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: get younger at the position the plan for the future. 87 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Do you see two or three top ten caliber offensive 88 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: tackles in this draft? How do you view that group? 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: I see one top three, top four pick in Andrew 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: Thomas from Georgia, a pure left tackle, an incredibly athletic guy, 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: someone who has a great upside. I think he's the 92 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: best left tackle prospect in this year's draft. You gotta 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: wait and see what other underclassmen may enter the draft. 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Tristan Worth's of Iowa, who plays right tackle but may 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: be able to slide over the left tackle in the NFL. 96 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: I think he also grades as a top ten pick. 97 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: It depends on whether or not he's going to enter 98 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: the draft. I'm told right now he's leaning towards returning 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: to school. But still, I mean, it's a good offensive 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: bacle class. If you lose out on Andrew Thomas at 101 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: the top of the draft, you're still gonna be able 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: to get some quality guys in the second day of 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: the draft. Guys that can play left tackle, that can 104 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: play right tackle. That guys who I feel can start 105 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: his rookies but also have a high upside and will 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: be long time starters in the NFL. We want to 107 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: follow up Tony. A lot of people do have the 108 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Alabama offensive tackle Jedrick Wills as a top ten pick. 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: How do you view him? I have graded in the 110 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: bottom half of round one. I know a lot of 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: people tend to like him. I prefer his teammate Leatherwood. 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Tony, and and one of 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: the things that I like to do because you never 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in that first round. That 115 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: everybody focuses on the first round, but you and I 116 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: both know as well as John, the later rounds are 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: so important. How many NFL ready tackles are there in 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: this draft? Are you're gonna be able to get one 119 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: in the second round? Even maybe the third round? Is 120 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: the position that deep where you don't necessarily have to 121 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: go that high to get one a franchise guy, I understand. 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: But can you get a starter later on in date too? Yeah? Absolutely, 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at And again it depends on 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: which underclassman entered the draft. Walker Little was an NFL 125 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: ready guy from Stamford. He got injured early. He's staying 126 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: in school. We still want to hear from Austin Jackson, 127 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: the underclassman from USC. We already spoke about the two 128 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: guys from UH from Alabama. Uh. You know Matt Pert 129 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: from Yukon played right tackle a Yukon. He's gonna be 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: a second day pick. Could have fallen to the second 131 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: round at worst. He's a third round pick. He's a 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: guy who I think can start and play a long 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: time as a rookie in the NFL. Trey Adams out 134 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: of Washington, at one time considered a top fifteen selection, 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: has had injury issues. Had an injury issue as a 136 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: sophomore with his knee, had an injury issue last year 137 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: with his back. He's played relatively well at times this year. 138 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, if he passes medicals, he's a second day 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: guy that can also. Uh. I believe starters a rookie. 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: Auburn has a guy and Prince Tega want to Nogo 141 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: who's gonna be maybe a late first round at worth 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: the top four five pick. Very athletic tackle, not as 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: athletic as Andrew Thomas, but again, a guy who's got 144 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: a high upside and someone who I think you can 145 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: put into a starting line up as a rookie and 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you'll get good returns from him. Tony Obviously, the Giants 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: not interested in a quarterback in this draft, but the 148 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: more quarterbacks that go high, the better players that get 149 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: pushed down to the Giant. So Burrow is a guy 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: that's been talked about a number one, a lot two, 151 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: has got the hip. Then you have Herbert, who I 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: know there's a seems to be a lot of separation 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: on what people think about him. Um, what's your view 154 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: on this quarterback class? How high these guys are going 155 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: to go? Which could push some talent to players down 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: to the Giants. I mean a lot of questions. You know, 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: Joe Burrows had a sensational year, won the Heisman Trophy. 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: His game is on the upswing, which is what you 159 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: want when you're selecting a quarterback. You want a guy 160 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: who's basically moving forward. All the ingredients are there, but 161 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: he's only really done it for one year, So that 162 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: has to be a concern. You talked about two was hip. 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, people want the answers. Now we're not gonna 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: have answers on really really where he stands for of 165 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the three to four months. And remember, it's not just 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: about what happens on draft Day with two, it's whether 167 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to play three four years down 168 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the road. Justin Herbert has had a very uninspired season 169 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of concern there. Uh. He came 170 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: into the into the campaign. He came into the season 171 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: as the highest rated senior prospect. He was given a 172 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: grade by scouts that really hadn't been given out in 173 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: the past ten years. And he's kind of fallen flat 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: this year. He hasn't played poor football, but he's just 175 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: been uninspired. Jordan's love. Another kid from another potential first 176 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: round pick from Utah State did not beat expectations. Jacob 177 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: Easton of Washington. He Uh, he declared for the draft yesterday. 178 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: He's been inconsistent. He really doesn't have a big body 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: of work. So I think the best way to describe this, uh, 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: this quarterback classes. There's great potential there, but there's also 181 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: some you know, for some room to be cautious and 182 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: basically to say, you know what, there is some downside 183 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: risk of this quarterback class. Let me ask you this Tony. 184 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Building off of what you just mentioned about, Herbert lost 185 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of luster this year for whatever the reason. 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: To all, we know he got hurt. Okay, fine. Aside 187 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: from the quarterbacks, were there any of the guys that 188 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: you were pretty darn sure going into this season we're 189 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: going to be top five or top ten and then 190 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: because of the way they fell flat, they are now 191 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: dropping like stones as we go into the draft season. 192 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: You know ray Kwon Davis of Alabama, he's a He's 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: a very good player. He was terrific as a sophomore, 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't have a great junior year, decided to go back 195 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: for a senior year, and he's just been okay. That 196 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, and that seems to be the m 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: O of a lot of defensive lineman that come out 198 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: of Alabama. You know, they kind of seemed to level 199 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: off after showing flashes of brilliance early on. And really 200 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: two years ago, if you were to talk to me 201 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: about ray Kuan Davis, I said, this guy would have 202 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: been a lock to be a top five or six pick. 203 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I think you're looking at him as a 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: mid fust round pick, and you know he's been passed 205 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: by Derek Brown of Auburn, which is, you know, heresy 206 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: in the state of Alabama something, a player from the 207 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Crimson Tide. So I think ray Kwon Davis is a 208 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: guy that is kind of disappointed me. Same thing with 209 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: with Laviska Chenault of Colorado, a guy who struggled with injuries, 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: a guy who last year in the two. During the 211 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen season, especially the start of it, 212 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: it looked brilliant. I mean, he looked like a top 213 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: twelve pick. There are some questions as to whether or 214 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: not he's going to end up in the first round 215 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: at all. Come to April Tony, how about off ball linebackers? 216 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: The Giants have not drafted an off ball linebacker in 217 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: the first round since Carl Banks. It's a stat we 218 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: throw out here a lot. We'll throw it out again. 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: Could this be a year where we can stop throwing 220 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: that out? There? Is there an off ball linebacker that 221 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: you think could be worth a top ten pick that 222 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: can be that type of mic linebacker or the more 223 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: apt to wait until Day two or three to try 224 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: to find one of those players in this year's draft. Well, 225 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the only guy who would be a top antick would 226 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: be Isaiah Simmons of Clemson, and I mean he he 227 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: played safety early in his Clemson career. They moved them 228 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: up to linebacker. And he is sensational. He is just 229 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: an explosive player, gets great depth on his past drops, 230 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: covers a lot of area. You can send them up 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: the field on the blitz he'll get. He'll basically get 232 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: good results for you. A tremendous athlete who's really molding 233 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: himself into a real good football player. Now you know, 234 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: I like Isaiah Simmons. I don't know that I like 235 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: him as a top five selection um, but again I 236 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: think he's going to fall in that top twelve, top 237 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: ten area. There'll be some good guys in the second 238 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: day they'll be able to get as well. There's a 239 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: name to remember. We're gonna see him at the CEO 240 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: bolt A Keen Davis Gaither of of Appalachian State. Again, 241 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: very much what the league is going to with linebackers 242 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: these days. When you say off the ball linebackers space 243 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,119 Speaker 1: linebackers basically has strong safety size but plays the linebacker 244 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: position and does it well. Great in space, great in pursuit, 245 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: outstanding and which flies around the football gets from point 246 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: a to point B in no time at all and 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: constantly making productive plays on the football field, Sony, I 248 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: think the other position of interest to me, a significant 249 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: interest for the Giants would be skyscraping wide receiver. You know, 250 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: they've got a bunch of guys here that are are 251 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: more of the smaller types. They don't have any spider 252 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: man uh Te Higgins out of Clemson interests me at 253 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: six ft four. Are there any other skyscraping receivers that 254 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you could see going very high that might interest the Giants? 255 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think you pick one in the 256 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: first round, but maybe even round two. Keep an eye 257 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: on Brian Edwards of South Carolina. I don't know that 258 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: he's an early second round guy, but you know, if 259 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: he falls into the third round, six three two pounds, 260 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: runs and plays in the high four fours, a real 261 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: productive receiver, a guy who wins out for the contested passes. 262 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's a big body receiver who plays big 263 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: bodied football. I mean he goes up and he fights 264 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: to come away with the reception. Colin Johnson of Texas 265 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: is coming off of a bit of a disappointing season, 266 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: which means he's likely going to slide into the third round. 267 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: But at six five and a half, two on your 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: twenty pounds, not the swiftest guy, not the quickest guy, 269 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: but again, a shorthanded UH pass catcher who's a terrific 270 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: red zone threat. And we'll go up and come down 271 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: with the contested ball, UH contested pass. Same thing with 272 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman. Again, you're looking at a third round type 273 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: of receiver six three and a half, two eighteen pounds, 274 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: always winning out for those high for the high balls, 275 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: for the jump balls, always winning out for the contested passes. 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: So you can get that type of receiver. But I think, 277 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can wait until let third round area 278 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: and there'll be a puple of good ones staring the 279 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: giants in the face. What about Collins out of Michigan, Uh, 280 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: if he enters the draft, I think he's uh, you know, six, 281 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: he's he's solid. Want to see how he runs. I 282 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: think he's had a decent year. I don't think he's 283 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: been he's exploded the way I had hoped. But then again, 284 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: you can say that about the entire Michigan offense. We'll 285 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: have to wait and see if Collins decides to enter 286 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: the draft. Do you see this wide receiver as the 287 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: deepest position in this draft, Tony. We've seen last year's 288 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver class have have have a pretty solid showing 289 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: in this year in the NFL. Is this class better? 290 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: Is it super deep? Is there another position you think 291 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: is deeper? Your thoughts depending on what your underclassmen come out. 292 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I really like the offensive tackle class, and I'm an 293 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: offensive tackle guy. I think there's great depth at the 294 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: receiver position. I think there's great versatility and variety at 295 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: the receiver position. You've got the small, speedy guys like 296 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: the kJ Hamler's of Penn State, who I understand is 297 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: going to enter the draft. You know you talk about 298 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: the bigger receivers. One name I forgot to mention, Gabe 299 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Davis of Central Florida. Goes about six pounds, plays the 300 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: position like Dez Bryant. Not the fastest guy in the world, 301 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: but just plays with great strength and body control. I 302 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: like the receiver position, but as far as you say 303 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: the first forty two picts or so, I really liked 304 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle class. Alright, So, Tony, in the last 305 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: month or so, as you I know, I know you 306 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: do this year round and and please I don't mean 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: to at all ignore any of the other months that 308 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you've busted your butt on this, but in the last 309 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: month or so, is there's somebody all of a sudden 310 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: who's caught your eye and that you're going to be 311 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: really focusing on that you didn't expect to be focusing on. 312 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: As again we get into the bowls and the combine 313 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: and the workouts, well, I gotta go back to the further, 314 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: further than the month, because I do this stuff over 315 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: the summer. Wilson. Everyone talks about Andrew Thomas the left 316 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: tackle of Georgia, Isaiah Wilson, the right tackle, is a 317 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: guy who I'm told he's going to answer the draft. 318 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: He's a underclassman, doesn't get the headlines of his teammate, 319 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: more of a pure right tackle type of prospect, but 320 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: a guy who was just really exceeded expectations. I came 321 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: into the year thinking he was maybe a third round 322 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: type of player. I'm thinking right now, late first round. 323 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I would suggest to anybody go back and watch the 324 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Note Youre Dame film, because what happened was Wilson didn't 325 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: play the first half of that game because he had 326 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: a bad ankle. And Notre Dame was killing Jake from 327 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: off the right side. Wilson Hobson's the game at the 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: second half with the bad ankle or so with the 329 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: bad ankle and all I should say, and just solidifies 330 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: the right side of the Georgia offensive line. And then 331 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Georgia just took control of the game when they're right 332 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: tackle Isaiah Wilson stepped onto the field for the second half. 333 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: So Wilson is the guy who where I had him 334 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: ranked coming into the season to where he is now, 335 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: it's almost a two round improvement, Tony. How about the 336 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs? Do you see guys going in the top 337 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: ten that are deserving of that? Is it a deep 338 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: class for the cornerbacks and the safeties. I think it's 339 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: a top heavy class. I mean, you've got it's basically 340 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: a top heavy class with kids from l s U 341 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. Jeffrey A. Coot of of Ohio State, 342 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: the cornerback is gonna be a top ten pick. I 343 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: like Grant Delpitt of l s U, who will be 344 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: a top fifteen pick. Christian Fulton of l s U. 345 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: The cornerback is gonna be a top twenty pick. Treyvon 346 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Digs of Alabama is gonna be a first round of C. J. 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Henderson of Florida first rounder, and then it kind of 348 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: falls off a little bit, but you still you've got 349 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Ohio State guys. You've got a lot 350 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: of see see guys in there, and you'll be able 351 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: to get good primarily corners. The cornerback class is a 352 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: lot stronger than the safety class. You'll be able to 353 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: get good players that can fit in as starters, nickels 354 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: and nickel players as rookies in the NFL. Really through 355 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: the third round. You know, Tony, it seems by what 356 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: we have done here just scatters shooting all these positions. 357 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: You're very, very excited about this draft. Not that you 358 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: you you aren't on other years, but it seems like 359 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: there's an awful lot of depth at a lot of 360 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: these positions. This is a good crop, isn't it. Good 361 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: positions that are usually are in the past, have been 362 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: priority positions for NFL teams. You know, you used to 363 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: everyone that focuses on the quarterback, but NFL teams when 364 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: they come into the when they come into a draft, 365 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: they want to see defensive lineman. You've got a good 366 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: decent crop of defensive lineman. They want to see a 367 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of offensive tackles. You've got a good number of 368 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: offensive tackles in this class, as I said. They want 369 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: to see cornerbacks. You've got a good number of cornerbacks 370 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: as I as I just mentioned. So I think that 371 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: the priority positions. You know, quarterback is the sexy position 372 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: these days, it's the one that garners all the headlines. 373 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: But it's your offensive tackles, it's your defensive line at 374 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: your cornerbacks that you really need on the field, you know, 375 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: to to help the quarterback win the football game. And 376 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: I think you've got good crops at all those positions, Tony, 377 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: final one for me, And this is a selfish preparation question. 378 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: So I don't mind hiding that I'll be off to 379 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl in in a few weeks. I'm hoping 380 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: to see you out there. Who are the guys that 381 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I should put down and make sure give me that 382 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: twelve them? I don't care, I remember, however many you want. 383 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: Who are the guys that I should really be keeping 384 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: an eye on that are at the Senior Bowl. That 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: could be Day one or two picks. Well, you know 386 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl has always been a kingmaker at the 387 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: quarterback position. The Carson wentz Is of the world, the 388 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, the Carson Palmer's. Even last year, Daniel Jones, 389 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, didn't have the greatest of days, but really 390 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: the Giants fell in love with them. So you want 391 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: to look at Jordan's love. That's gonna be an interesting Uh. 392 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: The the underclassman from uh, the fourth junior from Utah State, 393 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna be there. You're really gonna watch him. Uh. 394 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: I want to wait and see what other seniors are there. 395 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm really hoping that uh, Joe Burrow and 396 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert both go to the Senior Bowl. I don't 397 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: know that Joe Burrow needs it. Justin Herbert absolutely needs it, 398 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see if he shows up. 399 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: There should be a good number of centers at the 400 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl as well. All Right, My final question, Tony, 401 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: is a little bit on the flashback kind of mode 402 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: of the Giants draft picks that they took this past spring, 403 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: which one pleasantly surprised you the most. I gotta say 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones only because he exceeded my expectation. Now, a 405 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: little revision is history. The last time I was on 406 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: with you guys was Draft night, and I could hear 407 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the anger from the crowd that was in the background 408 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: that the Giant when the Giants took Daniel Jones in 409 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: the sixth pick. And I knew what you guys were 410 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: going through just watching John on Twitter and I always 411 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: being arrested you guys, I said, you guys at the time, 412 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I understand if Giant fans are 413 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: a little bit upset that they took Daniel Jones with 414 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: the six pick, but the guy is a good player. 415 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: He is a good quarterback. You know, if you want 416 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: to slam the selection at number pick number six, fine, 417 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: don't slam the player. And I think Daniel Jones has 418 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. And you know, it's it's a good thing 419 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: because all those people who walked out on the ledge 420 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: on Draft Day have now come back and are jumping 421 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: for joy because Daniel Jones has done so well. So uh, 422 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's got to be the quarterback primarily because 423 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: no one expect even me, and I was high on 424 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I had him great to hire the most. 425 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected him to play as well 426 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: as he has played this year. Tony, awesome stuff. We 427 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll definitely talk to you multiple times before 428 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: we get the draft night, and again, just tell folks 429 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: where they can find you on Twitter and where they 430 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: can find your work. Find me on Twitter at at 431 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: Tony Pauline at Pro Football Network dot com, we'll have 432 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of draft stuff. Bowl previews will be at 433 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl at the Shrine Game. One of the 434 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: few people at the Shrine Game. UH. Loads of content 435 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: and basically the news before it's news will be at 436 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Pro Football Network. I appreciate it, Tony, good stuff. Will 437 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: talk to you down the road. 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